Oh gosh… I laughed at the part where you mention “unless u are a single simp and ur deck have a lot of 1 ml” Me: sweating while looking at my deck full of marius lol Thank you so soooo much for this… finally able to defeat that 1 empathy boss guy…xD I tried levelling up my boss and defense decrease card skill and they help a lot (especially that defense decrease one, I underestimate that skill xD)
Hi!! I just wanted to leave a comment about the complicated disputes as well -- I acttually did not know you could reset skills so I have had an even upgrade across both the left and right side. In terms of the cards I have at least personally found that using an influence cards stacked first and then preemptive on a different argument will help to deal max damage. And I have had friends ask about using R cards or same set SSR's, it is almost always that the R card will be better. In addition, although using 1 or 2 would be ideal for each argument in the first 2 rounds, I had personally used 3 for 1 of them and found it to be fine as well (with 2 for each of the others). Finally, I jsut wanted to say for the first one I used an 134586 power deck and defeated it with 1 extra move and the second one I had an 139842 power deck and defeated it also with 1 extra move (mainly because for my logic cards I don't have any SSR's so I focused more on their talents when I had gotten the cards). On a last note, remember not to underestimate R cards!! When in doubt, you can go to the cards sectioin on the main screen, then use advanced settings to Logic/Empathy/Intuition -> sort by Influence to check. You may be surprised!! I personally had an R card with higher influence than 2 other SR's in my top 15 cards, which is also how I chose my decks. Thank you again for your guide Saya and Yangyang, and good luck to everyone trying to defeat it!! (Also when in doubt upgrade talents, not card level if you are low on coins),
Found your video after searching on the CP levels cause i was reluctant based on a twitter thread, now that you've shown the steps, im more confident to do it, thankyou! I'll enjoy tot more watching your videos, you're my new fav channel of tot contents💖💖💖
I really don't need to watch this because each of my logic, intuition, and empathy deck power is 170k already but I love that I always get new knowledge watching your video XD I didn't know you can reset your study room! And I'm being a neat freak have always been select them according to at what levels they're unlock that so I've unlock them all LOL T^T the last is my boost influence is still at 3/50 but it's OK I guess. I still want to thank you because your guide is always fun to watch! :3 have a nice day!
I finally beat the empathy debate after days of trying to beat it thx to your suggestion of using certain skills by reseting it even though I had most of the skills maxed I found that the skill that goes up to 50 was very effective so thank you 😊
Ufufu- as a person who has 70% of all my cards being logic, the empathy dude was quite easy for me. But now I’m stuck with the problem of having the intuition and logic debates with my card decks (even with much experimentation) only reaching 138-140k power. 😭😭😭
thank u sm, i only have 120k deck power 😢 i also thought that defeating them *isnt* a must so i was taking it pretty easy but i just now realized that they're part of phase 3 😢 goodluck to everyone 😔🙏
@@Ash-xb7dm i don't think we need to complete all 13 tasks since we can obtain the rewards with only 12 tasks. that's probably the reason why we get a special badge instead of the normal reward for this dispute!
@@syirapjm i honestly didnt see it, thank u sm 😭 can i still unlock phase 4 tho?? even tho i dont finish all of the tasks in phase 3?? bc thats ehat im mostly worried abt 😭
I have a question how to know which cards is stronger when we enter the battle mode. Since I only put the strongest cards on the first row then after the second or third round I totally forget which one is the strongest cards.
I had 160k power with all my logic cards but sadly my study is only lvl 49 because i've been lazy so now i dont have the influence buff😭😭 i almost defeated him 😭
hii have u finished the logic boss? i've done both the empathy and intuition one but the logic boss is really hard. i've followed ur instructions but i still cant do it ToT
Is a empathy ssr or sr card better than a logic r card? I only have 10 logic ssr/sr so the rest can either be logic r cards or I can use my empathy ssr and sr
Thank you so much for making this, it's so helpful! Although I have a question, for example there is an emphaty boss, is it better to have all logic card while 50% of it is R card in lvl 40/70, OR have all SR/SSR logic card and the rest is SR/SSR emphaty card at lvl 70/100? I hope someone can answer me, Thank you. *Additional question: is it worth it to upgrade R card skill?
If ur sr/ssr empathy cards are trained then they are most likely better than the R cards. It's not worth in the long run cause it will eventually be replace by SR/SSR cards, so max level to level 4 is enough
I have like 140k deck power but half of them are empathy cards tho. Still unsure if im gonna utilize my logic R cards. Are they worth leveling up? Or just stick to SSR and SR empathy cards? Btw, thank you so much for the tip! Edit: im gonna cry, it ain’t enough 😭 (81k ho left :()
u can level them to lvl 40 or so. All the cards that are under lvl100 in the videos are cards that I didn't train at all (invest 0 skills) but the dmg is still quite okay.
ah. it’ll probably be a miracle if i beat the disputes with just 70k 💀 altho this did help me get further along LMFAO i need to stop simping on only certain cards and level all of mine up probably fhjdhfjdh
I think you can put some R card in support deck that the second skill is "Boost influence by an additional x% when this card is in support deck". Cmiiw, thank you
Oo u can just put it by optimize, cos there are ppl who have calculated it , sr/ssr's stats boost outweighs it, even if u level that skill to lvl10 so its not worth to invest in that skill
Is SR or SSR's skill work in support deck? Because I think it didn't work, so I put all R cards that have that skill, and upgrade some to pass the debate 🤦😂
Cos we have limited resources la, so better to first focus on the main deck card skills then their level, if u got extra resources then maybe the r cards
im so sad bc im severely underleveled and my highest deck is 92000 even though i started when the game came out on global. i wish hyv gave a chance for the low leveled players because now i cant get those 3 tears in the event rewards :((((
I think u can still get that 3 tears, cos it requires 12 tasks but there's 13 tasks altogether in that phrase so we can technically miss out on 1 tasks (aka complete complicated dispute)
This is my fault for being too lazy to farm for character material and leveling up talents. My overall power level is barely reaching 100k😢. Should have tried harder and farmed more…
There's still time, u can go to the exchange (fieldwork/lost gold rerun) to get materials and farm during this period!!! Hopefully u are able to defeat it before the event ends
@@SayaandYang ya i done the daily missions and weekly missions and if i have extra ap then i would grind for the materials for leveling up my cards to 100 lvl or grind skill materials
This really helped thank you so much ❤ I haven't reached level 50 yet for the study room but I manage to win with my 138k deck 😭 I also had no idea about the skills haha I just leveled them up randomly 🥲
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Oh gosh… I laughed at the part where you mention “unless u are a single simp and ur deck have a lot of 1 ml”
Me: sweating while looking at my deck full of marius lol
Thank you so soooo much for this… finally able to defeat that 1 empathy boss guy…xD I tried levelling up my boss and defense decrease card skill and they help a lot (especially that defense decrease one, I underestimate that skill xD)
Ahh I always forget that skill 😓 thanks for the reminder haha
MINE TOO TT. I only level up Marius and I can barely get pass the first stage
THAT WAS ME WITH VYN I WAS LIKE “oh…”
Thank you so much for this. I had a lot of troubles trying to defeat him and I had only recently learned how the skills work so thank you so much!
Hi!! I just wanted to leave a comment about the complicated disputes as well -- I acttually did not know you could reset skills so I have had an even upgrade across both the left and right side. In terms of the cards I have at least personally found that using an influence cards stacked first and then preemptive on a different argument will help to deal max damage. And I have had friends ask about using R cards or same set SSR's, it is almost always that the R card will be better. In addition, although using 1 or 2 would be ideal for each argument in the first 2 rounds, I had personally used 3 for 1 of them and found it to be fine as well (with 2 for each of the others). Finally, I jsut wanted to say for the first one I used an 134586 power deck and defeated it with 1 extra move and the second one I had an 139842 power deck and defeated it also with 1 extra move (mainly because for my logic cards I don't have any SSR's so I focused more on their talents when I had gotten the cards).
On a last note, remember not to underestimate R cards!! When in doubt, you can go to the cards sectioin on the main screen, then use advanced settings to Logic/Empathy/Intuition -> sort by Influence to check. You may be surprised!! I personally had an R card with higher influence than 2 other SR's in my top 15 cards, which is also how I chose my decks.
Thank you again for your guide Saya and Yangyang, and good luck to everyone trying to defeat it!! (Also when in doubt upgrade talents, not card level if you are low on coins),
I was at 160k and still needed more to win. This video helped me a lot. Thank you so much~
Thank you for the tutorial because I've tried to beat him many times but keep failing so Thank you😍
Found your video after searching on the CP levels cause i was reluctant based on a twitter thread, now that you've shown the steps, im more confident to do it, thankyou! I'll enjoy tot more watching your videos, you're my new fav channel of tot contents💖💖💖
I really don't need to watch this because each of my logic, intuition, and empathy deck power is 170k already but I love that I always get new knowledge watching your video XD I didn't know you can reset your study room! And I'm being a neat freak have always been select them according to at what levels they're unlock that so I've unlock them all LOL T^T the last is my boost influence is still at 3/50 but it's OK I guess. I still want to thank you because your guide is always fun to watch! :3 have a nice day!
Thank you!! Wow that's a lot~
I finally beat the empathy debate after days of trying to beat it thx to your suggestion of using certain skills by reseting it even though I had most of the skills maxed I found that the skill that goes up to 50 was very effective so thank you 😊
Congrats!!! I'm glad that the video helped
Thank you so much for your tips. I was trying so much and still was losing the complicated dispute. Your tips will help a lot 😊
Yw~ hope you can defeat him soon!
THANKS SO MUCH! After watching the guide, it helped me clear all of the complicated disputes😭✋
Congrats!!!
Thank you so much! I finally defeated the first complicated challenge thanks to your guide. You are awesome! ❤
Ufufu- as a person who has 70% of all my cards being logic, the empathy dude was quite easy for me. But now I’m stuck with the problem of having the intuition and logic debates with my card decks (even with much experimentation) only reaching 138-140k power. 😭😭😭
Yaaaang
My savioooorrrrrrrr
I love you!!!
Thank you very much for the guide!!! 🥺
Happy to help!
problem is i have 90k power T-T
i have the same problem, except i have 82k 🥲
Have you tried puuting cards on support deck?that way you may reach a 100k
same here rip
90k is my power with supports and the attack deck 😔
I have 96k 😭
... and this is the moment I realized I didn't have as many Logic cards upgraded as I thought I did. Time to... binge upgrade them I guess?
thank u sm, i only have 120k deck power 😢 i also thought that defeating them *isnt* a must so i was taking it pretty easy but i just now realized that they're part of phase 3 😢 goodluck to everyone 😔🙏
Hmm... phrase 3 got 13 tasks but we only need 12 to get the 3 tears so I think we can don't complete that?
@@SayaandYang OH MY GOD YOURE RIGHT????? BUT WAIT i still need to finish 13 tasks to unlock phase 4 right?? or is it not needed too?? 😭
@@Ash-xb7dm i don't think we need to complete all 13 tasks since we can obtain the rewards with only 12 tasks. that's probably the reason why we get a special badge instead of the normal reward for this dispute!
@@syirapjm i honestly didnt see it, thank u sm 😭 can i still unlock phase 4 tho?? even tho i dont finish all of the tasks in phase 3?? bc thats ehat im mostly worried abt 😭
omg thank so much for this☝🏻😭
I have a question how to know which cards is stronger when we enter the battle mode. Since I only put the strongest cards on the first row then after the second or third round I totally forget which one is the strongest cards.
I dont think there's a way unless u rmb which cards are the strongest cos the card order is random
@@SayaandYang that's sad since I really hard to remember which card is strong but don't worry I will manage.
No cuz legit I just found out that you can select which arguments u wanna attack… I thought you had to defeat the top one first I feel so dumb 😭😭😭
No worries, u are not the only one haha
Me watching this with my 80k cards: 👁️👄👁️
My goofy ass thought it stand a chance...
Thank you, you care about us so much ^_^ I have never expected that you will do this guide for us😍
I should try this to defeat intuition boss thank youu!
i didn't even realise u can collect the skill points back omg my lifesaver 😭😭
I had 160k power with all my logic cards but sadly my study is only lvl 49 because i've been lazy so now i dont have the influence buff😭😭 i almost defeated him 😭
Only today I learned that you can select which argument to target….
At least u learn it now!! Can use it for future debates~
Thank you!!!
hii have u finished the logic boss? i've done both the empathy and intuition one but the logic boss is really hard. i've followed ur instructions but i still cant do it ToT
No wayyy.. and here i am struggling with my 45k deck
Still can't believe I can beat the boss with a deck which was just 139k power. All thanks to your usefull information
Yw~ congrats!!
My study room is still on lv 42.. :(
Is a empathy ssr or sr card better than a logic r card? I only have 10 logic ssr/sr so the rest can either be logic r cards or I can use my empathy ssr and sr
Hmm... u can test them out and see which deal higher dmg without any buffs?
my cl still on 40 :(( how to get it into lvl 50?
U earn research materials use to level CL as u finish more analysis in file room
Thank you so much for making this, it's so helpful! Although I have a question, for example there is an emphaty boss, is it better to have all logic card while 50% of it is R card in lvl 40/70, OR have all SR/SSR logic card and the rest is SR/SSR emphaty card at lvl 70/100? I hope someone can answer me, Thank you.
*Additional question: is it worth it to upgrade R card skill?
If ur sr/ssr empathy cards are trained then they are most likely better than the R cards.
It's not worth in the long run cause it will eventually be replace by SR/SSR cards, so max level to level 4 is enough
@@SayaandYang I see.. okay thank you so much for your advise😍
Yooo i didnt even know we could click and choose the arguementss and i have been playing it since launch.
Haha for some reason a lot of ppl miss that
can you reset the study room only above 50?
U can reset it anytime regardless of ur lvl
oh great Somehow it was not resetting. just saw you can reset after spending 20000 stellin. Thank you for your help
cries in less that 100k deck power ToT
I have like 140k deck power but half of them are empathy cards tho. Still unsure if im gonna utilize my logic R cards. Are they worth leveling up? Or just stick to SSR and SR empathy cards?
Btw, thank you so much for the tip!
Edit: im gonna cry, it ain’t enough 😭 (81k ho left :()
u can level them to lvl 40 or so. All the cards that are under lvl100 in the videos are cards that I didn't train at all (invest 0 skills) but the dmg is still quite okay.
@@SayaandYang ok ill try! (the problem is my cl lvl is only 47 even though im lvl 80 lmao) thank you again!
ah. it’ll probably be a miracle if i beat the disputes with just 70k 💀 altho this did help me get further along LMFAO i need to stop simping on only certain cards and level all of mine up probably fhjdhfjdh
All my cards are level 100 and SR or SRR but for some reason my power is still only like 79k 😭
U need to level ur skills too
@@SayaandYang on average what level are your skills at?
I think you can put some R card in support deck that the second skill is "Boost influence by an additional x% when this card is in support deck". Cmiiw, thank you
Oo u can just put it by optimize, cos there are ppl who have calculated it , sr/ssr's stats boost outweighs it, even if u level that skill to lvl10 so its not worth to invest in that skill
Is SR or SSR's skill work in support deck? Because I think it didn't work, so I put all R cards that have that skill, and upgrade some to pass the debate 🤦😂
@@lesliekace their skill don't work but they still provide stats boost
Cos we have limited resources la, so better to first focus on the main deck card skills then their level, if u got extra resources then maybe the r cards
@@SayaandYang Yes, thank you for replying ^^
im so sad bc im severely underleveled and my highest deck is 92000 even though i started when the game came out on global. i wish hyv gave a chance for the low leveled players because now i cant get those 3 tears in the event rewards :((((
I think u can still get that 3 tears, cos it requires 12 tasks but there's 13 tasks altogether in that phrase so we can technically miss out on 1 tasks (aka complete complicated dispute)
I have a 90k deck I really can’t do this
How are you headquarter level 57????
I have been playing since day 1 haha
im almost giving up fr this is stressing me out...
my 80k deck could never 💀
Since I'm still a beginner who plays this game for a month. My power still not that great 😭 I'm still 7k
couldn't beat the first boss but at least i didn't run out of hp ig T-T
This is my fault for being too lazy to farm for character material and leveling up talents. My overall power level is barely reaching 100k😢. Should have tried harder and farmed more…
There's still time, u can go to the exchange (fieldwork/lost gold rerun) to get materials and farm during this period!!! Hopefully u are able to defeat it before the event ends
@@SayaandYangThank you! I’ll try my best. I also got the Marius Anniversary card so hopefully that will buff it a bit.
lol so funny, im at 67k and i got 5 hit ko and its not my skill thats trash( its trash) its my lvl (45) is it low :/ i started this game a year ago
Hmm it's quite low, the max lvl now is 80. Ur lvl will affect ur hp level so it's better to lvl up
@@SayaandYang ye but i don't really know how to level up fast, i just kept playing it everyday and use all my AP and thats about it lol
@@hitomi5532 clear the dailies and weekly everyday? And ya also spend ap to do debates haha
@@SayaandYang ya i done the daily missions and weekly missions and if i have extra ap then i would grind for the materials for leveling up my cards to 100 lvl or grind skill materials
This really helped thank you so much ❤ I haven't reached level 50 yet for the study room but I manage to win with my 138k deck 😭 I also had no idea about the skills haha I just leveled them up randomly 🥲
What level is your study room?
@@redowl247 it's level 43
@@Renhei oh thank you! This give me hope to try ehe~
@@redowl247 goodluck :3 also the R cards don't underestimate them I had to use some and was stronger than some of my sr cards
Glad it helped! Congrats!!!
what a good explanation 💜💜 . But I'm lacking in power still, I only have 114k and resources done. 🥲