Living car-free in the Arizona desert: inside Culdesac Tempe (full walkthru)
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2024
- Just outside sprawling Phoenix, a car-free neighborhood built from scratch has gone up, the first one of its kind in the US. Modeled after walkable villages of yesteryear, Culdesac Tempe sits next to a light rail stop and has its own grocery store, restaurant, coffee shop, used clothing store, gym, and plenty of gathering spaces.
The 17-acre community will eventually have 1000 residents, but no parking except for guests (the city of Tempe waived mandated parking minimums) though there is plenty of bike parking and free annual light rail passes for all residents.
Culdesac resembles a Mediterranean white village, but it also is aiming at “desert urbanism” to provide relief from the local heat. There are no cement sidewalks (using instead pavers and decomposed granite), white paint to reflect the sun and native plants to help create a microclimate. Culdesac’s Erin Boyd explained that temperatures on their walkways have been measured at 90F (32C) on days when the pavement outside Culdesac is 120F (48C).
While currently units here are only for rent, Boyd explained that Culdesac’s expansion plans include options for residents to buy as well.
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I love the almost random way the buildings are angled in relation to each other. Just that small factor makes it feel more organic and old, and it makes each building feel a little different.
Part of what it does is daylight capture. Notice that all buildings are painted white for daylight reflection. And most have windows in all directions.
Also , limiting the height , avoids the creation of shadows that prevent daylight exposure.
Another gain from this master plan is that it breaks heavy crosswinds. Arizona being mostly desert and flat lands , winds do bring in dust and particles.
I feel like it makes it feel claustrophobic by cutting off sigh lines of the horizons. i like being able to see the mountains and expansive horizons in the distance.
I'm from Europe and used to towns with beautifully chaotic tiny streets, but no new development looks like this. I'm blown away 👏👏👏
Luckily.
Im from the Rep of Ireland , which is part of Europe too. but i would never say "I'm from Europe"
i have lived in 4 countries in Europe
but i still live in Europe
@@bobdickweed I don't get your point. My point was about tiny streets and old town centers, which are in Ireland plentiful. Ask me how I know :-D
@@oakld this is not a good design and thankfully it is not followed in Europe. Most tiny streets and old town centers in Europe which there are thousands of, are adapted to modern needs. The above is just an American extremist fantasy about what a walkable city would be. It is a project of people who make their interests and ideologies their personality. It is not well thought out at all which is visible in the video. In Europe we only have centuries old tiny streets, and they are still more better fit to modern ergonomic person respecting living than the above.
@Brian-jv8iy Ohh shut up dude! This is how Europe is and many cities in Mexico are like that too!!
I studied Urban Planning and Development at ASU 04-08 during the Valley's boom years in the run-up to the financial crisis. The light rail had just been finished. We studied projects like these, and urban planners and the development community were excited at the prospect of having these in the Valley. Many were even proposed along the light rail line. I remember seeing many renderings. The crash killed them all. But also, these ideas were ahead of their time in 2008. Everything else had to catch up. The city had to ease parking requirements. Building design regulations had to change. The overall density of the area had to grow. Now 15 years later, the first one is built. Progress comes at a glacial pace. The circumstances around ASU in Tempe are good for a development like this to be successful, but I worry that it will soon devolve into just a fancy dorm.
Well said. Spoken like a true local.
i agree for sure.
i only would disagree in saying these are not ideas and certainly not ahead of their time. they are actually behind in time. this is how all people had to live before the automobile, and were meant to live.
it just _feels_ new because its something that was intentionally abandoned after the advent of the automobile, so we are so far removed from natural living. by many countries and cities all over the world, mainly north america.
its like if someone created a technology to live indefinitely; everywhere would adopt it but it would decrease overall life fulfillment because it wouldnt be how were innately intended to live.
This was not well thought out for summertime! The largest water feature I saw was a three-foot little wall waterfall thing. This needs water features a pond/lake to create a micro-climate with big trees for shade and cooling. Heck a few pools would be great!
Our US towns were like this created near train stops or water waterways. People biked, walked, had electric scooters, trains, electric trollies, or even electric buses and subways pre WW1.
Go back a few more years and you'll find the root of the problem.
The creation of the federal reserve (look up "Creature From Jekyll Island"), and the IRS, as well as several other big -gov't decisions took power away from the people, and allowed the federal gov't to subsidize the unsustainable society that has evolved since then.
#FiatCurrency #CentralPlanningFail
Pre WW1 horses were also still common.
Yeh that's a great way to live. I would love shopping areas and several foodie places too. Maybe in the section between the new section that hasn't been built yet they can adjust to that atmosphere and/or have it separated by a water feature(s) or plantings with colorful plants 🌿 that will give oxygen, calmness, and clean air. With some comfortable settings like benches surrounded by artistic tables but functional. Soft lighting for night time uses. Say for having tea and biscuits with friends. Then would need sound absorbing structures to softening the voices if it bothers the neighborhood.
Pre WWI subways it can be limited to Boston, not sure if NYC. Electric scooters , I highly doubt.
Pretty much feels at least aesthetically like a huge apartment complex- nothing special
I toured Culdesac in June of 2023. Beautiful, lovely new [old] concept. This way of living increases physical and mental health and is much better for the environment. I'm working with S.I. Container Builds out of Chicago to do something similar.
Make sure you don't do what they did and put the air conditioners on the roof which vibrate nonstop, and send loud compressor noise down through the hollow walls. It's loud! I lived in an apartment building where the ACs were on the roof and that's the first thing I look for now. Contractors never think of stuff like this. ACs need to be outside on firm ground where solid walls and thermal pane windows block the sound to a low hum. But on the roof it's loud compressor noise at all hours night and day.
Apartments are better for mental health? Laughable. Clearly from Chicago.
@@c.harris9989 I love to see that's you have help for me. I am a senior on social security
I think this is good thing.
@@c.harris9989 I live in Temp and my AC. Unit is on the top of my roof. I own in townhouse in south Tempe. It doesn’t vibrate down the walls. Of course my townhouse was built in 1980 so it’s pretty old. My backyard is small so I’m glad the AC unit is not back there taking up space and making noise.
I agree that the rooftop should be made so that residence could plant gardens
I've been following Culdesac for years, only thing I really dislike is that it's renter-only.
Edit: at the end they say they'll be adding availability for purchase which I do appreciate. Hope to see this template expand across the US.
It's called a smart city. You rent and never own anything and like it
I guess you know that even if you own such an apartment, you still pay kind of "rent", which builds up a fond for maintaining and repairing the building and common spaces. Though it's typically less than half the normal rent and if the market prices spiral away, you still pay just that maintenance fond. From my point of view, the largest down side is that the buildings are made from "cardboard", feels wrong especially for apartment building. Has to be terrible for living, when you hear your neighbors all the time.
Too bad it isn't structured as an owner occupied co-op or condos, instead of for profit rentals.
@@AnnieOaklee This is the new living projects. Now owned by a corp.
@@oakld Arizona's been like that for awhile now, sadly. Everything used to be cinderblock because of the natural insulation (especially for the heat) but now you have to find a specialty builder if you want anything made out of brick.
really like and appreciate the gentleman who has much knowledge of food-based plants and trees. holding his children. wise and gentle soul. this project is very forward thinking. ha, ironically, we are turning to our past in order to be more progressive and human. car centered, we lost sight of one another.
It makes you feel like you're living in a grand ancient Roman estate, but still gives you privacy without feeling isolated. Like your pocket village is a family.
LOL, good luck if you believe it is all one happy family!
@@jayess6318 what fun would a happy family be?
@@LaineyBug2020 Yeah, most people are good and all but if anyone believes that living in a huge apartment complex is one big happy family, they should get their head examined!
It's ugly. I have no idea what you guys are seeing that I'm not.
@@circesoul2218 100% agree!
It's uplifting to see young, small biz owners in a community setting.
There isn’t much pedestrian traffic to these storefronts. If the developer created a small retail plaza , then it would make sense. What you see as storefronts were garden apartment conversions.
Young is all you will see in that part of tempe. You feel out of place if you’re over 30.
@@DMills-un1tl doubtful. The “young”can’t even afford groceries.
@@serafinacosta7118 there isnt enough foot traffic because those apartment units and business units arent *filled yet* . the developer mentioned this in another video. its only recently opened and started taking residents in. people still have to find out its even there. pedestrianized car-less areas always get more people traffic and do economically better. what you see there is a retail plaza anyway, just a more natural one.
if they created a typical retail plaza like everywhere else it would create the same problems its alleviating and more car traffic.
@@exchangAscribe the young woman also specifically said “I’m taking a small risk because it’s not finished yet” but that she’s confident once the development is complete there will be traffic to her store.
"Is it perfect? No. Is it better?" YES. More of this plz.
This is the most rational comment in the comment section 🙏🏼
Los Angeles needs this. You'd be surprised how many of us don't have cars.
I grew up in Los Angeles. I do not know where a concept like Culdesac would fit. Public transportation in LA is not user-friendly at all. One year, I went home to visit for 9 days. I reserved a one week rental car and thgt I could get around LA on the bus for 2 days. I nearly lost my mind trying to manage the Metro bus!! None of the buses I took line up for transfers. LA is a really hard town to try and live an East Coast lifestyle. If you want to live car-free in LA, I would suggest moving to a neighborhood that already has a decent walkability score like DTLA, BH, Pasadena, Glendale (near The Americana at Brand/Glendale Galleria), and the area near The Grove. All of the amenities are already built-in in these communities like shopping, restaurants, apartments, and offices. Plus it's safe, and clean.
Downtown LA is walkable, but definitely not village style
Urban planning. An entire field of study, thought and practice - a philosophy of sorts, that all communities need, yet almost none utilize.
I'm just imagining the block party!💃🕺🤹♂️🎆🎶🎙
Kirsten, come to Civano in Tucson,it will have its 25 year anniversary this year. It is a neighborhood that tried to do a lot of these concepts along with environmental benefits, new urbanism,mixed zoning , creating a sense of place etc. Some successes some failures along the way.
I love Civano.
I would love to see a video on Civano
What I do see missing our fruit trees food forest and you could put bees or living rooms up on top with succulents so still more room for improvement but grace start
We definitely need to keep bugs in mind when building these types of communities. They are SO important to our overall health.
Ye will eat ze bugs and like it.
@@sarahrose9944 For our health??
@@troywhite6039trust me, I hate Shwaub but having pollinating insects and birds in gardens is very important. Nothing worse than a garden void of life.
I really appreciate just how uniquely Arizonan it feels. Whenever a new “dense and walkabale” development is made it always tries to appeal to the same modern wood-and-metal aesthetic.
1800 $ per month...for 17 square meters, in which there is both a kitchen and a bedroom, holy cow.
holy 🐂💩 is right.
I live in Switzerland, one of the most expensive countries on this planet where the majority of people rent because they can't afford to buy, and even I was shocked.
@@ShiranovaUnfortunately, because there is huge pent up demand for walkable housing in the US, charging such a price is the only way to avoid years long waiting lists.
@@unconventionalideas5683 I’ll just drive I’d rather have a car anyway. Relying on delivery for everything. Yeah no thank you I’m good.
@@Shiranova god bless capitalism.
I’ve seen many videos for Culdesac recently & following this for years. This video showed some important & unique features that none of the others have: no asphalt, live-work, small shops, Thursday night events, unique perspective views throughout, crushed granite walkways, edible landscape. These items make this video special!
This is the best video of Culdesac that actually lets me see what it's like. More raw
But no one has an area to go outside and have privacy... like a balcony.
Some great ideas for sure…would be nice if the roof could be used as gardens/patios. Community gardens maybe?
This is in the desert, but the design might be used in a different region with a climate that plants could tolerate.
@@yaash4123 You can still grow things in a desert. Native plants would work. A container garden. And with well designed solar shade structures, you could have a very inviting outdoor space to enjoy, especially in the mornings and evenings
@@jenniferdeshon389 it might work. You're just not going to see a traditional garden, and you might not have spare water during a drought.
@@yaash4123 That’s fine. “Traditional” is a subjective term anyway. Yes, water is an issue, but one that can be mitigated to some extend through the use of grey water capture. Rainwater capture, and/or atmospheric water generators may have limited viability in that particular area but would be worth looking into..
Yes
I think it's a very nice community and I do love the concept, but it made me incredibly sad when the one young lady mentioned that displacement of residents of the trailer park that formerly sat at the site. Where did they go? Where COULD they go?
I do appreciate her bringing that to light, because it's an important part of the conversation.
It's sad. But everyone is getting displaced now. At least, for once, we're displacing with something better. Everywhere else, their putting up luxury condos.
yah kind of sad but it needs to happen for places like this. also it was a trailer park.. so all movable homes. they might be fine.
Lovely place. Well thought out except for disabled access. Only three levels to an able bodied person isn’t much but can be insurmountable for a disabled person. I was discouraged by a flippant remark about using elevators to avoid talking with others….that’s not why I use an elevator. I use it for access and for independence.
I think the ADA workaround is that buildings under 4 stories don’t need to have accessibility accommodations because disabled folks can just live on the first floor
Handicapped accessibility would have to be available through ground floor units.
That's AZ building code. You can go up to 3 levels with no elevator. Older apartments got grandfathered in, my friend lived in a 5 floor walkup - uuugh!
Add in the temporarily disabled who don't qualify for the magic plackard: people who need surgery for knees, hips etc etc. So many stairs are a huge obstacle to us , but we don't qualify for the handicapped access privileges.
Disability access is not just abiut getting into your house folks. It us about traversing the spaces. An manual wheelchair can not travel on gravel.
Your videos never disappoint. I am so happy you and your family continue to explore these communities, and open our eyes to what is possible and better for the world. Thank you.
Where are the Solar Panels?? I like the earthen tracks around but looks a bit "crowded" like a motel?? Would like to see some communal plant growing areas, play park for kids and adults and some wider views rather than just more houses!!
I think wider views are unnecessary, coziness is better,.def needs solar panels tho
I adore this concept. I'm part of the lucky 8% of Americans who lives in a walkable neighborhood, and I hope more and more people are given that chance.
Love the concept but the rents are insane. Thanks for asking about the rents. Also the retail store that got a break on rent/lease was interesting. I live in a trailer park, same deal with community only cheaper. I wish I could show people how I decoriated the inside of my trailer. Dump to designer but I'm a regular person who studiies thi & took my time, did it mostly myself. I was quoted $2K for a video and that's more than it''s worth to me. Tailer parks are awesome. Thanksfor your chanel.
Id love to see a video of inside your trailer. Im in Australia and spent lots if holidays camping in coastal parks where there are permanent caravan setups. Ive always loved seeing how people decorate and put their own stamp on their place.
All of Phoenix rents are insane !!! 1400 is not bad considering how nice it is and the amenities
@@janeparent9178what you're saving on the cost of a vehicle will make it worth it. 🚎
@@janeparent9178 But there’s no investment for the renter. When you have owners they’re more apt to maintain areas. We have rental homes all around us in a historical district renter trash property they don’t own.
@@janeparent9178Crime rate high as well
The UA-cam channel "Not Just Bikes" explains the history of why the U.S. and Europe became car-centric. He also shows how parts of European cities looked before they reduced automotive use and increased the types of transporting people that best suits them and the environment. He prefers trains. He doesn't own a car.
"Bicycle Dutch" is all bicycle and also shows before and after riding infrastructure. He films entire rides so that you get the idea what riding can be like. We are SO far behind.
I’ve seen all of his videos. He is relentless on his narrative. But he brings in good points , and always put up good material to support his views. He backs up with real footage.
For cycling and walking to be a viable option, the community needs to be civilised and high trust. Perhaps there are fundamental differences between Europe and the US that explain the difference.
None of the new urbanists/anti car folk want to address this which immediately raises my suspicions.
It has a very catalan looking. It's a mix of Sant Cugat, Masnou, Sitges with Terrassa, Sabadell and some places of Poble Nou. If you wear me there with closed eyes and I don't listen anybody talking English I could really think that I'm in Masnou, for instance.
Congratulations to the architects. And thanks to them because it makes me feel more valuable my experiences on places like these.
Thanks for bringing contemporary templates.
thankfully old catalan designs keep their human friendly design, which this has none of
Eww no, it's much more Greek, the looks and the color and the angles.
@@Bearmund come and walk by Masnou, Sitges, and other old coast villages from Maresme to Costa Brava. Greece too. We are very similar to greeks and italians. We are mediterranean brothers, we have dry conditions, same plants, same latitude, same light, same blue of sky and also same architectonic solutions in order to reppeal heat from home. That's why many old town houses are very very white.
Very insightful developer. I like how she references how people used to live in proximity to one another and I immediately thought of Spain but especially Italy...the old Italian villages. I am only 3 minutes in will have to come back and finish later. Superbowl starts shortly.
yes but the origins of dense urban areas across the Mediterranean was medieval warfare... if you look at areas unaffected by constant raiding, the houses spread out.
Had no idea anything was even available like this in the US. I love to see it and I hope to see it expand and become more widely available.
I love the white buildings with different colored doors. This would be such a cool place to start out living and making a career path.
This is a great way to create financial sustainability. I live in a 2,900 sqft house in the suburbs and it's incredibly expensive for me personally (car, property tax, huge house maintenance bills) and it's expensive for the city (roads, sewer, water stretched over very few homes). This model would allow people to retire early or work less by spending way less and utlimately incurring less taxes since the city can provide infrastructure more affordably. The added benefit is you get to have friends close by and you get in great shape walking to everything. Another plus less death from car crashes which is really and understated risk.
Awesome Kirsten, love your videos, just bringing us new perspectives and innovations
It is very funny that Americans are rediscovering the wheel and selling it for a premium. I am very glad to see builders go in this direction, it is long overdue for the horrible urban sprawls of America. Great video!
So true. It's kind of sad to see all the people who think this is some sort of wild new idea. As if this hasn't been the default way to build a city for all of human civilization pre-20th century...
@@maanman3573 Its the default way in the world currently as well. Just not in America
You clearly didn't watch the video and are only using this video as a chance to get on your soapbox and complain about whatever it is you want to direct your bitterness and pettiness at. They specifically mention throughout the video how this is an old way of living inspired by European cities. They also aren't selling this at a premium. This is an affordable community that has been developed out of necessity and demand.
@@YTEH38 I did watch the entire video since I’ve been watching this channel since its beginnings, if you think this is affordable you are probably out of touch . I am Greek and they are emulating Greek Island style housing which has existed literally for millennia.
We’re not acting like we’re re discovering anything. Did you not see the beginning. There are laws against building like this 💀 this has been an active conversation for decades. Just because we don’t voice it to the world, doesn’t mean we haven’t been looking for the opportunity to do so.
Very intersting! I'm an American who has lived in Asia since 1996.....I'm somewhat comparing that little culdesac Tempe with what is so commonplace over here....crazy amount of entire cities and huge neighborhoods that no car ever needed, unless you want one. I hope that more communities expand and increase in the U.S. I've long thought that region of the U.S. - CA/AZ would be ideal for it.
Oh wow, I'm a long time fan of both your channel and Culdesac and didn't even realize you were here making this video! As a Culdesac resident for the past few months, I saw myself in a few accidental cameos in your shots but it would have definitely said hello in person if we had met.
@mmm my husband and I were there end of January for a week thx to you sharing about your adventure back in November. We took light rail everywhere, worked out daily, and swam with the masters at ASU. Great vacation. We looked for you everywhere. But probably wouldn’t have bothered you if we saw you. ☺️ I am also a long time follower of Kirsten Dirksen. I was wondering if she was there when we were there. Cheers!
Lived in Arizona for 6 years and I would never do it again. Over 100 degrees for weeks at a time, nighttime doesn't give much relief, the desert landscape is nice for a short while but nothing beats natural greenery. And this type of arrangement with no car makes you a slave to the public transit system, what if you need to go somewhere in the middle of the night and this transit system is not working at those hours or doesn't take you to your destination?
So many better options inside and outside of the country than Arizona!
No Thank YOU!
Agree! I grew up there and moved when I finished college.. I’ve never been back!! A few years is more than enough in AZ. And now seeing that it’s being overdeveloped and getting overcrowded. Not worth it!
Where is the community garden space? Where are the solar panels or rainwater catchment system?
Agreed
Its hard to do it all, those features can be eventually added on.......
They do have edible plants on site around the 20 minute mark
Do not let perfect be the enemy of the good
There are gutter systems visible that can be put toward water catchment. There is plenty of roof space that can evetually hold solar panels - that can be shade for rooftop social spaces too. They also did mention that a good deal of the plants are edible. As far as a community garden, I think the space lends itself better to container gardening, but the developers might aim to set aside some more spaces for that. As someone else said, Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
The community garden is coming soon. Not sure about rainwater collection, but it doesn't rain a ton out here, so not sure how useful that would be.
I like this concept and the layout of the community. It keeps the busy areas away from the residential areas, yet close enough to walk there. I love that! I hope communities like these become more common around the area, otherwise you might feel like you don't have a lot of options close enough or reachable enough. The Phoenix metro area has the light rail system, but with the limited stops it isn't enough to get to most necessities. Phoenix is technically very bike friendly, but the drivers most times aren't. I hope this changes since I really like this community, but for the moment it works better in a city like Tempe.
$1800 per month!! 😮😮 3.5x my mortgage for 1700sq ft, 4/2 .23ac
Phoenix got mad expensive over covid. 5 years ago it was the most affordable big city.
I encourage the principles and the ideas in this but the interior of the apartments is uninspiring and the court yard areas somewhat uninviting. Do the windows need to be so small?
You won't be able to see the surveillance drones for curfew
The architect didn't create the missing middle, he just addressed it. It's a great copy of southern euro life. It will be nice to see if residents socialize like European villages.
There's no way this isn't an expensive place to live, but that's not a knock on this development at all. It's going to be expensive because this is the kind of place people want to live. This concept should be a model for building all over the country. Well done.
It isn't that expensive especially for the area around it
@@valawee It’s pretty easy to find a 1 bedroom for less than $1800.
That plant guy is awesome
You continue to bring such incredible and inspiring content! Well done!
Another incredible video! It fills me with passion and drive to see such a community-led and focused way of living.
Is this like a 15 minute city ?
Not at all. 14,000 something. Acres? Certainly not miles. Phoenix is the largest city in Arizona. It’s big and sprawled out. Like driving from Brooklyn to Long Island.
Yes, exactly like one.
Essentially
It's like one, but lacking schools and healthcare. Where I live everything for daily life just happens to be less than 15 minutes travel. The area I live in is 140 years old, neighbourhoods with facilities is an old concept.
It will be full of students!
Great video! I think Mr Money Mustache lives there. Love to see you guys in parts of the video! I've been watching Nicolas's channel too - would love to see more content where we hear from you both. I find myself watching some of the older videos for that side of the channel occasionally. Thanks for all you guys do!
Hey Spencer, I’m taking it as a compliment coming from you. Your channel is a great resource, will recommend it.
Wow this is amazing. Finally got to see this video and glad to be apart of your project and Culdesac. Had a blast doing the interview view you two!
beautiful, but wish it was more affordable!
So cool there is a big good parking lot just across the street....
Having lived in the valley for 30 years I will tell you the only ones biking in Tempe are college students and in the summer months (April through October) you won't find people out during the daytime walking or biking around unless on the ASU campus . The light rail is generally ridden by students or homeless people and it only goes to downtown Phoenix. It's great if you are going to an event downtown but not realistic for anything else. I've taken the light rail once and that is when it first opened over ten years ago. Additionally, the area on Apache Blvd wasn't a good area in the past. It looks like they've removed the old rundown homes and have gentrified the area for ASU students.
My comment is aligned with yours, this is a very virtuous idea and feels like a glorified dorm.
I actually live in Tempe and didn’t know this was here. How cool!
Thank you so much.
Great to see people proving it's perfectly feasible to live without relying on a private car 👍
No thanks. I like open spaces and freedom of movement as God given right of private citizens.
I like buying 5 bags of groceries at a time.
it doesnt need to be proven but ya. its how humans lived for a majority of our existence. before the automobile.
@@Stacey721 sure but theres no restriction of movement there idk what your talking about
@@katydid2877 You can try that on a cargo bike, or there would be less cars on the road for you
great ideas --- great production ---- thank you
Congrats on America's first 15 minute city. What could go wrong.
😂😂😂 exactly
Right. All those people packed together in perfect harmony… lol
LOVE this! This is the kind of urban design the world needs!
So glad to see something like this in my city! I really hope the neighborhood takes off and inspires more like it.
Within a minute of one another, the guide said that the area is cooler because (1) the white buildings reflect the heat, then (2) the crushed granite absorbs the heat. Which creates the cooling effect, reflecting heat or absorbing heat?
She didn’t explain well. Absorbing heat makes things warmer because they will radiate that heat outwards. But on the other hand, they can also redirect heat by absorbing it away from another area- in this case the granite on the side absorbs the heat that the central pathways would get
Its also very nuanced, theres also been many cases where reflecting heat can make the surrounding area hotter. Its all up to how well everything is designed together
She meant to say. ..
1. Wall materials do not absorb heat, and the white walls reflect light and heat. If you would use cinder blocks and fine grit compound for the walls and outer layer as opposed to terracota , a hot summer day would make indoors at night a living furnace short of pumping A/C.
So they must be using some refratary materials for brick laying.
Also, during winter, it reacts just as the opposite. Cinder blocks makes indoor freezing. Even at moderate temperatures.
2. Granite absorbs heat. Paved asphalt is even worse. The later acts as a heat sink that releases heat at night right back at the common areas.
To my eyes it’s too industrial looking. Should have been more of a nod to adobe building. There was a reason adobe building was used so much - cool in the heat and warm in the cold. Nice idea but misses the mark for me. I was interested when I saw the thumbnail pic, but disappointed in the total.
Seems like one may have to walk their ebike thru the narrowness to reach ones unit. And the a/c units on the rooftops need sun protection so as not having to work so hard to cool. The AZ sun is brutal at this elevation
How do emergency vehicles reach a building in the community?
Pretty easily. There's plenty of space in between the pod clusters. Or do you think an emergency vehicle needs to be able to pull right up to a specific door?
The central paseo is sized for fire trucks.
@@todddammit4628 i know right haha like what is he thinking
The water issue w more density and not a lot of access to it is a huge red flag for Az. Long term it is said it will be an issue.
Wonderful place and video. Thanks!!
Beautiful change of lifestyle! Ebikes are creating a new world... Far different from the Tempe I lived in for 3 years...
Very nice place, reminds me like living in a mediterranean village
It's crazy seeing my home town on this channel. I grew up 2 minutes from this "gentrification". A lot of trailers and poor apartments got bought up and demolished for this.
You can get your degree and move out or some 3 month training to get a CDL or become a plumber/HVAC/Electrician. I hear people tell the same sad story but they are not doing anything about it. I try to encourage others but they take it in a bad way 🎉 I myself will be trying again soon, I was interested in the CDL program but a major failure set me back.
Please come to Montpellier. The tram and public transport is free for montpellier citizens since the end of 2023!
Vermont?
It's like a pueblo, or reminiscent of cliff dwellings in the desert.
I know its not aesthetically desirable but solar on the roofs to supplement electric and water catchment systems to water the green spaces, could make the outrageous minimum 1,600. a month price tag a bit more tolerable. Also, small grocery stores tend to be more expensive. This seems to be made for young professionals or wealthy college students. Nice idea if could be focused on everyone else also.
I live here, and the grocery store does offer resident discounts if you live here.
I love this place. It reminds me of “the 15 minute city”, in which all the our essential amenities is within a 15 minute walk/bike ride.
Just like every other developer they threw the poor people out to make room for those who are not.
I watched this video so many times this one of my favorite
This is cool, there is something to this, love the community aspect. I wonder if consideration for the need to care for people as they age or those with walking disabilities having to walk up stairs, this can be a little more challenging.
15 minute cites are pretty nice when they are not forced on you. Not for everyone but nice if your footprint is this small. Hard to imagine your pleasure with rowdy young families and multiple pets! lol I would be the one harvesting those plants and adding some others if allowed... Young families hmmm I hardly notice them these days...
Given the location, Apache/101, the transients will love all those little corners and hidey spots to hangout amongst the residents of this community. Such a forward thinking concept to create such an inviting space for the local street community.
Great overview, and such a wonderful project. What I wouldn't give to have opportunities to meet my neighbors in a natural way!
Brilliant ideas, well executed.
When I was a kid, I lived for a year in the city of Avalon (Santa Catalina Island - California) in 73' and the town had very few cars and sidewalks between the housing blocks. This isn't a new idea.
You're right, this isn't a new idea. This is the way we built villages/towns/cities all over the world (including in the US) for thousands of years. The modern sprawl of car-centric suburban development is the "new idea" and it has failed miserably.
Ohhhh… I used to fantasize about living on Catalina! I’ve been there a few times and it’s one of my favorite places. I’d love to live in a place with no cars.
Oh I’ve always wanted to see these new 15 minute cities 🎉
We always remind ourselves about the wonderful life we have: we walk to work every day !
SMART cities, here we go....
The best thing about this place is the way the residents get to meet each other. Actually a community. It should have parking less than 3 minute walk from any of the houses. Access to light rail is great.
Will any of these apartments quality for low income/subsidized housing, or Section 8? They would be wonderful for Senior Citizens on a fixed income. It would also add to the enrichment of the community ♡
Probably not the only thing this would be good for would be senior citizens, but the stairs and stuff make it very difficult. A living space like this for the disabled and senior citizens. I totally agree with, but I could never live here you couldn’t pay me to live in that place.
What does the timber frame construction mean for the longevity of the buildings? It looks like a Mediterranean settlement but they would never be constructed from timber
Long time AZ/Tempe resident here; come back mid-July when we hit 120°F. I'm also worried if a fire sweeps through this place because it's too close together.
Speaking of fires, have you noticed the solar panels on Arizona roofs? If there's a fire, those are a shock hazard because the fire department can't disconnect it. So they pretty much have to let your house burn and protect the surrounding homes.
Looks like an E bike friendly community & I could see myself fitting in.
Apache Blvd is a mess, notice how they almost get run over in the first few minutes of riding there.
@@brockdez1259Haha, yeah I noticed that horrible driver too, they edited the video just before the minivan totally cut off the cameraman! Apache is not usually quite that bad for bikes (typically far less traffic plus there are bike lanes), but you do need to watch out for the occasional accidental murderer motorist like this with extremely defensive cycling. Just a price of being a cyclist in a big city for now - although the rewards are very large too.
YIKES! That bicycling at the beginning was horrific! Never ride on the right side of traffic turning right. And never squeeze between a curb and a car like that (or two cars). This is one reason why so many bike lanes are so deadly, as they encourage dangerous driving by everyone. Always merge carefully into normal traffic if you're coming up to a busy intersection where you're not turning right and you're not already in a normal travel lane when biking, so that you're predictable and visible.
This evokes the quality of a community of attached and taller cottage courts, a housing archetype that are mostly found in Southern California and happen to still exist by the dozens in the central core of San Diego and where I live in a walkable, 100+ y.o. streetcar suburb. You can tell the residents really grasp the quality of life prospect of this type of living. Having a mostly car-free lifestyle myself I could never imagine living any other way.
You meant Dingbats , right ?
perfect 15min city model
What if someone falls ill and needs an ambulance? They have to come through on foot?
Absolutely brilliant!
I love it we need more of these around US
We passed the 1.5 Celsius climate boundary so I think her growth projections might be a bit off... when avg temp from May to Oct is already around 95 degrees.
Plus its arizona.
Nice, but needs a great big greenspace. Kids need the grass and trees and wide open area to play. Add some parks and a community garden to grow food for those who are so inclined and then you got it!👍
This is in the middle of the desert. Picture this type of development in a more temperate climate and the whole place would be like it's interwoven into a park.
Big grassy spaces are not suitable for the climate, but they did show some smaller yard-type areas. I know my kid could have plenty of fun with this meandering landscaping as it is. A swingset or slide here and there would be a nice addition though.
Tempe has came along way. ❤
I grew up in Phoenix, it’s overheating now I wish they would start using a lot of shade cloth
I wish that I could live there. I get so stressed with urban driving.
Visit there in the summer and see if that would change your mind.
Me, too!
@@cynot71 I spend winters in Southern California and summers in Washington and Montana and Canada.
You are right that I can’t take the heat.
@@andreaterranova4824 in small towns in rural WA, people are friendly. Everyone says hello. I have even accidentally run stop signs and red lights and people don’t get upset. We all make mistakes. I can’t wait to return there for the summer.