The 300 six I wouldnt ever consider incredible...reliable sure, the 7.3L Was not theirs it was IH's, The 351 Cleveland was too thin wall casted but probably their best block, The Fe was very limited in CI because of its bore spacing and the Coyote although very impressive boosted is FUGLY as FUGLY gets. Ford NEVER got it right ever, they never produced the ICON so to speak. Everything they did had issues. as a mechanical engineer by trade, I truly dont understand this myself, Some CEO/Bean Counter had to for some reason put a stop to an engineer designing the thing right......Or Ford just could not justify paying for the higher tier college engineers.
@@RipitRon I guess it depends on how one defines incredible, 300 was granite solid and would run forever in almost all cases, that to me is incredible. We all know that the 7.3 was IH, but Ford put it in their trucks and is considered to be one of the best diesels out there, compare to the IH 6.0 and 6.4 which are little better than cow pies. Bob Glidden made the Cleveland a legend, and made big block power from small block displacement. Are you saying the FE 427's aren't iconic ??? Coyotes are Fugly, ??? LOL, its gorgeous! Flatheads are ICONIC!! you must be a GM guy
@@bcdieselsofficial Yeah, but Ford used it and is known as a "Ford" diesel despite being engineered and manufactured by IH. Just like 2v and 4v Cummins are known as "Dodge" diesels despite being engineered by and manufactured by Cummins. But yeah, the 6.7 is a great diesel also.
@@kalnieminen65 What I am saying is Ford never put it all together to make a Masterpiece. The Hemi is Iconic, the flathead is cool. The 427Fe was a good motor but it was not a BBC or a Hemi......It was used in lightweight cars in the race scene which helped it a lot, it had a ton of variants (Heads and intakes) to try to make it compete because the head flow was shit at best. Am I am GM guy....No i am a car guy, I own a 60 chop top Starliner with a 449 Ci FE, A 61 Restomod Thunderbird with a 482 CI FE, a 1949 Old 88 Bagged cruiser with a 383 SBC, a 1932 Roadster with a 427 CI SBC a 1966 fastback mustang with a 545 CI BBF and a 88 ASC Mclaren Mustang. the reality is I know cars and I know motors and I also know what is good and what isnt good. My 61 Thunderbird engine is a Side oil 427 Ci Stroker and it is cool and built to the hill, and got smoked by my old 70 Chevelle with a 496 CI BBC in it (Sold a few months ago) The 66 Mustang would smoke the chevelle but Mustang was 3040 lbs and again in typical ford fashion that engine should have been priority main oiling instead of shit oiling system. This is what I am talking about with Ford, they just never put it all together.
No AMC car ever dominated any racing class! What planet are you living on? I grew up in the Sixties as a drag racing fan and I was there which makes me qualified to make the comment I did. And what AMC engine made more power than the Ford 427 SOHC or Chrysler 426 HemI? Really???
@ronhall3686 That's a great point! The 427 "sock" definitely had some interesting nicknames. It really highlights the unique history and culture around these engines! i like the 90 day wonder
@nikolap.9963 The "BERAMUNDY" sounds impressive! Turbo 6-cylinder engines are definitely making waves in the performance world. Thanks for sharing that info!
Well put it next to a Hemi , 385 series Ford or a BBC and tell me its a Big Block.......Its more like a Pontiac/Oldsmodile or Buick 455 in size......I too would classify it as a Mid Block
@RipitRon well you would be wrong. Becouse ford themselves called it a big block. It's not as big as the 385 series big block but does it have to be? Is this your rule? Who's ever rule it is, it is invalid & it needs to go. In 68 ford advertised the ford mustang with a "big block" 427. Not my words, but Fords words! Are guna tell ford they are wrong about their own engine? Is its bore spacing bigger than the small blocks? Yes, why yes it is! I guess that makes it a big block even if it isn't the biggest block.
@@jesseduke694 I dont give a shit what Ford says it is, Is its more a mid block than a Big Block. Sorry I am going off of memory her but Bore spacings BBC 4.840 SBC 4.400 Hemi 4.800 Olds 455 4.750 Pontiac 455 4.625 351w/351C 4.380 BBF 4.90 FE 4.630 Ford had (2) engine families at the time the 8.2 Deck SBF and the 10.17 FE, so yes that what they kind of had to call it, they didnt know anything else. Again i certainly wouldnt consider it a Big Block....you can if you want I sure as hell wont
@RipitRon deck hight has nuthing to do with it. Bore spacing dus. And that is very narcissistic of you to tell the manufacturer that designed & built the engine for almost 20yrs that they are wrong, and you, one no name individual, are correct with the terminology that is used. That's brilliant! On top of that the term that you are declaring correct was never used by anybody! No manufacturer said "medium" block! Man, to bad they didn't have you back then to tell them they are wrong? I bet your wife loves it?
@RipitRon oh ya, are you sure about ford having two engine families back then? Far be it for me to question you. But your guna have to tell ford they have been wrong about alot of stuff! Like some of the engine families they thought they made. Ur guna have to tell them they didn't! They only had two!
@rodneyjones4890 The secrets are in the details! I aimed to uncover the most fascinating aspects of the Ford Fe engines series. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask!
These videos showcase how little the makers of this show know about engines or cars in general. Or the history of the automaker. Thank god its not a video about our rights!
@paulblundellfilm be curious but don't be satisfied with these films or alot of what the internet will tell you. There is so much misinformation out there about these engines it's hard to sort through. And if you don't have a solid source to fact check this stuff you don't realize what you are reading or hearing is crap. There is alot of myths that some groups of people hold onto. And just straight up false information that has been printed in books & passed along to videos such as these videos that simply isn't true. And this engine of fords, the FE engine is the absolute worst one of them all for false info that has been written as if it's actual documentation. I myself believed some of it for a long time becouse it got passed onto me from highly respected experienced engine builders. You don't think you will hear false info from them. But now with the internet, and yes the internet is one of the biggest sources of false info on these engines, but it is also the source to fact check it with big groups & specialized engine builders that don't just have experience, they have experience with this particular engine family, the FE. Even in some of the groups you would not believe the amount of people that will comment stuff about the FE and alot about the FT engine that is false. The good thing about the groups is they are good admins & they work hard to not spread the false info & they quickly jump in to inform & correct the myths. The majority of people still think the FT engine block is a special heavy duty casting that can be used to build a superior FE for a car. It can be used to build a car FE engine but there is nuthing more heavy duty about it. When they cast the blocks they use the exact same casting. The block doesn't know if it will be built into a FE engine or a FT engine. When they machine the block they machine it differently, slightly. But the casting is one & the same. To be honest this video wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be & I commented this at the beginning. To be fare I should have taken it down. I did hear some wrong info in it but it was some minor errors. But really I was just googling info today & the misinformation is a epidemic on google!! They are saying the 390 blocks can be safely bored out to a 428 size wich is .080 over & that couldn't be more wrong! Very very few can be bored that big. General rule of thumb with these blocks is u should be safe boring them .030 over. Any bigger & they need to be sonic checked. I personally have seen bores crack at .040 over. I have also seen identical blocks live fine at .060 over. Point being anything over. 030 needs to be sonic checked & almost nun of them will go .080. Sorry for the rant.
@jesseduke694 I appreciate your feedback! We always strive to improve our content and provide accurate information. we are indeed learning more as we create these films , ultimatley we are pashonate and have invested 10,000 hours and thousands of dollars to learn if there are in acuracys please highlight ps do you know the differance between common law , and man made Law there is a huge differance , also see Black law dictionary , for real insight into human rights, and jurisdiction, its facinating
The narrator is actually. a talented voice actor known for his work in various automotive documentaries. he is called Adam glad you’re enjoying the content!
Ford made two different 410 engines. One was a MEL series & one was a FE. The 410 FE was only put in Mercury's for two yrs. 66 & 67. It was simply a 390 block with a 428 crankshaft.
@jesseduke694 Rotten,dad had a 65 T-bird,hard top 410, 65 convertible 390. Ed's stump pullers would have been great truck engines. F1's 427 or 428 get rid of that 360,390,300,w block. MOO POWER BABY!
The Ford SOHC 427 Cammer really is a powerhouse! It's amazing what engineering can do , Ford did not know the differance between , big , large, small block hahaha!
@petegrant7496 I appreciate your feedback! It’s always interesting to hear different opinions on presentation styles. when we get real funding , we will definatly change that
There are no secrets. If the original engineers had 90 days to call it the 90-day wonder if they would have hung a set of gears in it they would have been king of the mountain instead they chose a chain allowing 15° of cam timing change. Everybody seems to be impressed with this and I don't know why. Put gears in it then you can be impressed otherwise it's just another piece of junk running a chain
you have no clue. I grew up with an uncle who raced cammers. it did not have 15 degree difference. lolol that's a stupid commitment in general. it won the number 1 and 2 spot in 1970 nhra top fuel nationals
@billsoinski9136 Thank you for your thoughtful comment! It's always great to hear different perspectives on such an iconic engine. Your engineering knowledge really shines through!
Absolutely! The ford fe series and the 427 engines have a fascinating history and performance that really stands out in the automotive world. we found out these engines were ultimatly inspired by the rolls royce v12 spitfire engines (merlin ) ua-cam.com/video/YHryYCCg7fc/v-deo.html and henery ford was asked to make an engine for the armed forces, he refused and stole the blueprins and manufactured his own Ford v8 GAA tank engine the was in the M4 sherman , fascinating history!
Ford really did put out some incredible motors. The 300 six, 7.3 Powerstroke, 351 Cleveland, the FE series and now the Coyote.
The 7.3 Powerstroke was International. So was the 6.0 and 6.4. The 6.7 is the only V8 Powerstroke produced by Ford. Still a fantastic engine.
The 300 six I wouldnt ever consider incredible...reliable sure, the 7.3L Was not theirs it was IH's, The 351 Cleveland was too thin wall casted but probably their best block, The Fe was very limited in CI because of its bore spacing and the Coyote although very impressive boosted is FUGLY as FUGLY gets.
Ford NEVER got it right ever, they never produced the ICON so to speak. Everything they did had issues. as a mechanical engineer by trade, I truly dont understand this myself, Some CEO/Bean Counter had to for some reason put a stop to an engineer designing the thing right......Or Ford just could not justify paying for the higher tier college engineers.
@@RipitRon I guess it depends on how one defines incredible, 300 was granite solid and would run forever in almost all cases, that to me is incredible. We all know that the 7.3 was IH, but Ford put it in their trucks and is considered to be one of the best diesels out there, compare to the IH 6.0 and 6.4 which are little better than cow pies. Bob Glidden made the Cleveland a legend, and made big block power from small block displacement. Are you saying the FE 427's aren't iconic ??? Coyotes are Fugly, ??? LOL, its gorgeous! Flatheads are ICONIC!! you must be a GM guy
@@bcdieselsofficial Yeah, but Ford used it and is known as a "Ford" diesel despite being engineered and manufactured by IH. Just like 2v and 4v Cummins are known as "Dodge" diesels despite being engineered by and manufactured by Cummins. But yeah, the 6.7 is a great diesel also.
@@kalnieminen65 What I am saying is Ford never put it all together to make a Masterpiece. The Hemi is Iconic, the flathead is cool. The 427Fe was a good motor but it was not a BBC or a Hemi......It was used in lightweight cars in the race scene which helped it a lot, it had a ton of variants (Heads and intakes) to try to make it compete because the head flow was shit at best.
Am I am GM guy....No i am a car guy, I own a 60 chop top Starliner with a 449 Ci FE, A 61 Restomod Thunderbird with a 482 CI FE, a 1949 Old 88 Bagged cruiser with a 383 SBC, a 1932 Roadster with a 427 CI SBC a 1966 fastback mustang with a 545 CI BBF and a 88 ASC Mclaren Mustang. the reality is I know cars and I know motors and I also know what is good and what isnt good.
My 61 Thunderbird engine is a Side oil 427 Ci Stroker and it is cool and built to the hill, and got smoked by my old 70 Chevelle with a 496 CI BBC in it (Sold a few months ago)
The 66 Mustang would smoke the chevelle but Mustang was 3040 lbs and again in typical ford fashion that engine should have been priority main oiling instead of shit oiling system. This is what I am talking about with Ford, they just never put it all together.
I am SHOCKED!
AMC and their domination of Trans Am and Pro Stock. It took a while to get there, but they got there!
No AMC car ever dominated any racing class! What planet are you living on? I grew up in the Sixties as a drag racing fan and I was there which makes me qualified to make the comment I did. And what AMC engine made more power than the Ford 427 SOHC or Chrysler 426 HemI? Really???
The 427 SOHC besides being called the "Cammer" was also called the 427 "sock" motor back in the day.
@ronhall3686
That's a great point! The 427 "sock" definitely had some interesting nicknames. It really highlights the unique history and culture around these engines! i like the 90 day wonder
Ford never ever used terms bigblock or smallblock that was GM term not Ford
Y block,FE, 385 lima ,335 Cleveland and windsor. No big block or small block nomenclature was used by FoMoCo. 332 was the first FE in 1958.
Wait till you see the "BERAMUNDY " from down under
A turbo 6cyl. putting out 1000 HP.
@nikolap.9963
The "BERAMUNDY" sounds impressive! Turbo 6-cylinder engines are definitely making waves in the performance world. Thanks for sharing that info!
One use not mentioned was tractor pulling for year a 427 sohc led the pack in the light weight class.
@Mike-zs7bk
No way! I didn’t even think about tractor pulling! That’s seriously cool. The 427 is like the Swiss Army knife of engines-does it all!
I'm shocked - shocked -
@OHUQTU It’s definitely a surprising history! The 427 FE series has so many interesting details that often get overlooked.
No medium blocks! The FE, and under Fords definition, is a big block!
Well put it next to a Hemi , 385 series Ford or a BBC and tell me its a Big Block.......Its more like a Pontiac/Oldsmodile or Buick 455 in size......I too would classify it as a Mid Block
@RipitRon well you would be wrong. Becouse ford themselves called it a big block. It's not as big as the 385 series big block but does it have to be? Is this your rule? Who's ever rule it is, it is invalid & it needs to go. In 68 ford advertised the ford mustang with a "big block" 427. Not my words, but Fords words! Are guna tell ford they are wrong about their own engine? Is its bore spacing bigger than the small blocks? Yes, why yes it is! I guess that makes it a big block even if it isn't the biggest block.
@@jesseduke694 I dont give a shit what Ford says it is, Is its more a mid block than a Big Block. Sorry
I am going off of memory her but
Bore spacings
BBC 4.840
SBC 4.400
Hemi 4.800
Olds 455 4.750
Pontiac 455 4.625
351w/351C 4.380
BBF 4.90
FE 4.630
Ford had (2) engine families at the time the 8.2 Deck SBF and the 10.17 FE, so yes that what they kind of had to call it, they didnt know anything else. Again i certainly wouldnt consider it a Big Block....you can if you want I sure as hell wont
@RipitRon deck hight has nuthing to do with it. Bore spacing dus. And that is very narcissistic of you to tell the manufacturer that designed & built the engine for almost 20yrs that they are wrong, and you, one no name individual, are correct with the terminology that is used. That's brilliant! On top of that the term that you are declaring correct was never used by anybody! No manufacturer said "medium" block! Man, to bad they didn't have you back then to tell them they are wrong? I bet your wife loves it?
@RipitRon oh ya, are you sure about ford having two engine families back then? Far be it for me to question you. But your guna have to tell ford they have been wrong about alot of stuff! Like some of the engine families they thought they made. Ur guna have to tell them they didn't! They only had two!
Where were the secrets ?
@rodneyjones4890
The secrets are in the details! I aimed to uncover the most fascinating aspects of the Ford Fe engines series. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask!
These videos showcase how little the makers of this show know about engines or cars in general. Or the history of the automaker. Thank god its not a video about our rights!
Well I learnt more from watching these films , perhaps perception and perspective is personal , is it better to be curious than judgmental ?
@paulblundellfilm be curious but don't be satisfied with these films or alot of what the internet will tell you. There is so much misinformation out there about these engines it's hard to sort through. And if you don't have a solid source to fact check this stuff you don't realize what you are reading or hearing is crap. There is alot of myths that some groups of people hold onto. And just straight up false information that has been printed in books & passed along to videos such as these videos that simply isn't true. And this engine of fords, the FE engine is the absolute worst one of them all for false info that has been written as if it's actual documentation. I myself believed some of it for a long time becouse it got passed onto me from highly respected experienced engine builders. You don't think you will hear false info from them. But now with the internet, and yes the internet is one of the biggest sources of false info on these engines, but it is also the source to fact check it with big groups & specialized engine builders that don't just have experience, they have experience with this particular engine family, the FE. Even in some of the groups you would not believe the amount of people that will comment stuff about the FE and alot about the FT engine that is false. The good thing about the groups is they are good admins & they work hard to not spread the false info & they quickly jump in to inform & correct the myths. The majority of people still think the FT engine block is a special heavy duty casting that can be used to build a superior FE for a car. It can be used to build a car FE engine but there is nuthing more heavy duty about it. When they cast the blocks they use the exact same casting. The block doesn't know if it will be built into a FE engine or a FT engine. When they machine the block they machine it differently, slightly. But the casting is one & the same. To be honest this video wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be & I commented this at the beginning. To be fare I should have taken it down. I did hear some wrong info in it but it was some minor errors. But really I was just googling info today & the misinformation is a epidemic on google!! They are saying the 390 blocks can be safely bored out to a 428 size wich is .080 over & that couldn't be more wrong! Very very few can be bored that big. General rule of thumb with these blocks is u should be safe boring them .030 over. Any bigger & they need to be sonic checked. I personally have seen bores crack at .040 over. I have also seen identical blocks live fine at .060 over. Point being anything over. 030 needs to be sonic checked & almost nun of them will go .080. Sorry for the rant.
@jesseduke694
I appreciate your feedback! We always strive to improve our content and provide accurate information. we are indeed learning more as we create these films , ultimatley we are pashonate and have invested 10,000 hours and thousands of dollars to learn
if there are in acuracys please highlight
ps do you know the differance between common law , and man made Law
there is a huge differance , also see Black law dictionary , for real insight into human rights, and jurisdiction, its facinating
Who is the narrator? I hear his voice in quite a few things.
Seems computer generated
AI
The narrator is actually. a talented voice actor known for his work in various automotive documentaries. he is called Adam glad you’re enjoying the content!
Adam who, does he have a last name?
@@trucking604 No! It's "AI"
Try 657 horsepower s.o.c.k
@donaldseccombe3893 Thanks for the input! The Ford SOHC 427 Cammer is all about that power, and I appreciate your enthusiasm for it!
87 degree block, no 410 no harmonic balancer, internally balanced. 427 low med high tunnel port sohc. Study more,better story!
Ford made two different 410 engines. One was a MEL series & one was a FE. The 410 FE was only put in Mercury's for two yrs. 66 & 67. It was simply a 390 block with a 428 crankshaft.
@jesseduke694 Rotten,dad had a 65 T-bird,hard top 410, 65 convertible 390. Ed's stump pullers would have been great truck engines. F1's 427 or 428 get rid of that 360,390,300,w block. MOO POWER BABY!
@@RodneyRotten what?
@jesseduke694 Ford put 427's in limited # of T-bird's. I had a 63 rust bucket? ENGINE!
@@RodneyRotten ENGINE!!👊
"AI" Is teaching you now.
Large block🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Ford SOHC 427 Cammer really is a powerhouse! It's amazing what engineering can do , Ford did not know the differance between , big , large, small block hahaha!
@rarecarstorys what's a 460? What's a Windsor?
The SHOCKING truth?
@stephenvelden295 Yes, the truth might surprise you! The history and engineering behind the 427 FE Engine series are truly fascinating.
@rarecarstorys Fascinating iSN'T shocking!
As soon as I heard AI voice guy I turned this off.
@williamboehm1045
I appreciate your feedback! AI voices can definitely be a hit or miss for some viewers.
Can't stand that fake voice
@petegrant7496
I appreciate your feedback! It’s always interesting to hear different opinions on presentation styles. when we get real funding , we will definatly change that
There are no secrets. If the original engineers had 90 days to call it the 90-day wonder if they would have hung a set of gears in it they would have been king of the mountain instead they chose a chain allowing 15° of cam timing change. Everybody seems to be impressed with this and I don't know why. Put gears in it then you can be impressed otherwise it's just another piece of junk running a chain
you have no clue. I grew up with an uncle who raced cammers. it did not have 15 degree difference. lolol that's a stupid commitment in general. it won the number 1 and 2 spot in 1970 nhra top fuel nationals
@billsoinski9136 Thank you for your thoughtful comment! It's always great to hear different perspectives on such an iconic engine. Your engineering knowledge really shines through!
100 percent
Absolutely! The ford fe series and the 427 engines have a fascinating history and performance that really stands out in the automotive world. we found out these engines were ultimatly inspired by the rolls royce v12 spitfire engines (merlin ) ua-cam.com/video/YHryYCCg7fc/v-deo.html and henery ford was asked to make an engine for the armed forces, he refused and stole the blueprins and manufactured his own Ford v8 GAA tank engine the was in the M4 sherman , fascinating history!