Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Terminator 2 in 20 Minutes or Less

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  • @Th3Birdman
    @Th3Birdman  3 роки тому +146

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    • @raahimkamaal5363
      @raahimkamaal5363 3 роки тому +6

      Yo

    • @kevthacube7325
      @kevthacube7325 3 роки тому +5

      Ok

    • @jamesgarrett8833
      @jamesgarrett8833 3 роки тому +6

      Hey hey Th3Birdman thanks you so much for doing this. Me and other people have been asking you do this and you did at last. “Terminator 2” is one of the greatest movies and sequel ever made and how dare Jeremy crap on this movie. Your the best

    • @ondururagittandeska2004
      @ondururagittandeska2004 3 роки тому +2

      Around

    • @ondururagittandeska2004
      @ondururagittandeska2004 3 роки тому +3

      Hey th3birdman can you please do Princess Bride video as I loved that movie and hated Jeremy talking shit out of it, couldn't last the first 3 minutes

  • @wowsadowsa
    @wowsadowsa 3 роки тому +1090

    Going to Google maps to point out CinemaSins’ bullshit is pure brilliance.

  • @LegendPurpleDragon152
    @LegendPurpleDragon152 3 роки тому +776

    14:20 Fun fact, that’s not an effect. That officer and the T-1000 in that scene are played by actual twin brothers Don and Dan Stanton.

    • @absolutelybarmy
      @absolutelybarmy 3 роки тому +82

      And they were both in Gremlins 2!

    • @ondururagittandeska2004
      @ondururagittandeska2004 3 роки тому +25

      I did not know that - thanks.

    • @SuaveGemini
      @SuaveGemini 3 роки тому +83

      Same with Linda Hamilton in the end fight in the steel mill. She has an identical twin sister too. In fact they used her twin when Sarah was digging the bullets out of the T-800's back. Because of the "mirror" in the room. All practical.

    • @KaleidoAbridged
      @KaleidoAbridged 3 роки тому +48

      I always forget that adults can be twins too.

    • @chongsfury4358
      @chongsfury4358 3 роки тому +34

      Also Linda Hamiltons' twin sister Leslie Hamilton played a couple of parts.

  • @Absynthexx1
    @Absynthexx1 3 роки тому +491

    I'm so glad you used the line "Movies don't have to make sense in our reality, they only have to make sense in THEIR REALITY". I've been saying that to friends for years when I tell them beefs I have with movies that break their own rules. They always accuse me of unfair expectations and then I say almost that exact line to let them know I only expect them to follow their own rules, not necessarily ours.

    • @kindbrute4640
      @kindbrute4640 3 роки тому +13

      Bro, some people I know are Legend of Korra fans. I’ve been tryna make this point for like a year now

    • @PsypherWolf
      @PsypherWolf 2 роки тому +15

      @@jacobmcdorman5552 You talk as if the machines themselves couldn't be programmed to fetch the raw materials or like they couldn't recycle what was already there.

    • @andrewphillips4681
      @andrewphillips4681 2 роки тому +8

      @@jacobmcdorman5552
      It's almost like skynet put people in work camps or something

    • @KevinLuper99
      @KevinLuper99 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kindbrute4640what's your point?

    • @kindbrute4640
      @kindbrute4640 11 місяців тому

      @@KevinLuper99 I don't mean to be rude but I don't think you read properly. I didn't make a point, I agreed with OP's. Do you understand what they're saying or is that what you need explained?

  • @InfiniteUmbra
    @InfiniteUmbra 3 роки тому +575

    When you pulled out Google maps to Sin them I laughed out loud. Beautiful work my dude. 🤣

    • @Yesthatsmyfirstname
      @Yesthatsmyfirstname 3 роки тому +25

      Thorough, incredibly thorough, I love it.

    • @rianmacdonald9454
      @rianmacdonald9454 3 роки тому +13

      always had issue with that scene, thought the same as cinema sins, but when he showed the google maps of the area, makes full sense, and agree with bird man, the only sin was not showing the area in the film scene.

    • @stpbasss3773
      @stpbasss3773 3 роки тому +8

      @@rianmacdonald9454 Well the stunt was done with a real truck it's not CGI so I don't understand why people have a hard time believing it when you watch it happen yourself.

  • @colormedubious4747
    @colormedubious4747 3 роки тому +195

    ALL the sins should be awarded to that damned trailer for spoiling the big reveal.

    • @wesleycagle2354
      @wesleycagle2354 3 роки тому +30

      Gotta love being from this new generation. First time watching the terminator was on Netflix way back when they still had quantum leap. Few months later the second came on. Had no clue about any of the fandom or events or trailers or anything. It was magical. Like someone watching Shaw shank or the sixth sense for the the first time. The twist only has one shot of throwing you off guard and I am truly greatful I got to experience the twist the true way it was intended

    • @letsbetheawkwardkquorter7159
      @letsbetheawkwardkquorter7159 3 роки тому +12

      I don't get why studios show big reveals in the trailers. It takes a lot of the awe out of seeing the moment in theatres, like Gogeta in the Broly movie or the twist villain in the Bloodshot(I think that's the title)movie.

    • @NeoTechni
      @NeoTechni 8 місяців тому +3

      and then they did it again for Genesys!

    • @LegendOfZeldafan666
      @LegendOfZeldafan666 4 місяці тому

      ​@@NeoTechniye but any terminator after 3 has been shit anyway and is just getting worst and worst

    • @hadronoftheseus8829
      @hadronoftheseus8829 10 днів тому

      That's not the initial release trailer.

  • @WakoDoodle
    @WakoDoodle 3 роки тому +381

    *Jeremy makes a CinemaSins about the best Terminator film (imo)*
    "Come with me if you want to live!" - Th3Birdman to the fans.

    • @Richtofen-gy9cj
      @Richtofen-gy9cj 3 роки тому +4

      it's C3PO,not Jeremy

    • @Anand_Ilangovan
      @Anand_Ilangovan 3 роки тому +6

      Not just yours, it's the entire fanbase's opinion!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @AssafStone
      @AssafStone 3 роки тому +6

      @@Richtofen-gy9cj come on...
      C3PO is still a beloved character, because it was great and funny in the original movie, despite being an annoying douchebag that just exists for fan service purposes...
      Oh.

    • @ncrawford5673
      @ncrawford5673 3 роки тому +6

      @@Richtofen-gy9cj that's just rude to C3PO

    • @Lolbama2012
      @Lolbama2012 Рік тому +1

      You didn't need to add the IMO to a fact. Everything after T2 is bullshit.

  • @CanadianPrepper
    @CanadianPrepper Рік тому +90

    This vastly exceeded my expectations, the only flaw was that yes indeed he should have picked up the frozen T1000 and tossed him into the molten steel

    • @h.l.69
      @h.l.69 10 місяців тому

      Go back to prepping, kid. The world’s gonna end tomorrow, trust me.

    • @FolkerHQ
      @FolkerHQ 6 місяців тому +1

      the T-800 could get frozen as well. And I wonder, the T-1000 cut Sarah in the elevator in the clinique from above. So shouldn't the T-1000 be able to mimic Sarah since?

  • @crafty_badger
    @crafty_badger 3 роки тому +171

    19:08 steel mill cannot stop working. Reigniting blast furnace is hell of a task, and is avoided at any cost. You can google it in seconds. But why bother, right, CinemaSins?

    • @vampyberry
      @vampyberry 3 роки тому +32

      Do you really think cinemasins care enough to research? Because "satire"

    • @petrmaly9087
      @petrmaly9087 3 роки тому +18

      Wait, you say you can't just flip a switch and melt 100 tonnes of steel in a moment?

    • @patrickthomas8890
      @patrickthomas8890 3 роки тому +21

      Same thing with the EWW Terminator Dark Fate video which sinned someone riding a bicycle in a factory...guess they never worked in a factory or even bothered to research factory work to know that bicycles are actually used as a cheap/quick way to transport items in very large places. Some factories are enormous and walking from one area to another would be time consuming. I worked in one where bicycles were common.

    • @jyrlan2596
      @jyrlan2596 3 роки тому +20

      @@patrickthomas8890 we literally have bike lanes at the refinery I work at lmaooo
      Jeremy really has never done physical labor

  • @MetalHeadReacts
    @MetalHeadReacts 3 роки тому +637

    Funny thing is, there was an interview about a year ago with Robert Patrick where he was stood at that very intersection talking about that very scene where the truck jumped into the water way that clearly showed how it was possible... not to mention... Y'know... The truck clearly actually did that stunt... so... how would it be impossible to do it when you can actually see it happening on screen?
    I love watching Cinema Sins, but really, he does pull some utter bullshit outta his ass sometimes just to **munches chips** pad the sin count...

    • @Phoenix2312
      @Phoenix2312 3 роки тому +31

      I am with you! I LOVE CinemaSins... And to all those who bitch about @Th3Birdman... I am going to forward the man some of my own comments from way back when I first discovered their channel back in 2013!!! Because these "Fans" are only jealous that Birdman does what we were all doing in their comments a decade ago - But he had the brains to make them Videos and Make money from it while we just whined like little bitches!!! (Not Jealous... Just stating facts!)
      Christ the only Sin with that Scene is on a TECHNICAL LEVEL, And its one that even James Cameron admits - The Truck would NEVER HAVE SURVIVED THE IMPACT! But its a Movie... Of Course it was a Stunt Rigged Truck!!! (The Real Truck would have had its engine wrecked on impact... And would never have been able to drive! But thats the beauty of Movie Magic, Making the impossible, Possible!)

    • @shadowphoenix1696
      @shadowphoenix1696 3 роки тому +17

      Sometimes what do you mean sometimes.
      Every time I've seen his vids it mostly nothing but bullshit, to the point that I give up on watching them.
      Sometimes I do see a CS vid but only though EFAP, where those guys also call out his bullshit.

    • @Platinum_Tugboat
      @Platinum_Tugboat 3 роки тому +4

      I just recently watched that, and then this video came out. Funny how that kinda stuff happens.

    • @renestuder515
      @renestuder515 3 роки тому +2

      What water?

    • @Anand_Ilangovan
      @Anand_Ilangovan 3 роки тому +12

      Yes, it was not a CGI sequence unlike "woke fate", it was an actual live sequence!!! Jeremy is clearly unbearably ignorant!!!

  • @EskieDixon
    @EskieDixon 3 роки тому +122

    It would’ve been 100x funnier if he’d said, “In case you confused this with Los Angeles present day.”

    • @wookiebush7449
      @wookiebush7449 3 роки тому +16

      Jeremy would have to know how to be funny.

  • @bullwinkle524
    @bullwinkle524 3 роки тому +437

    I’m glad you were able to get some intros back. UA-cams copyright can’t stop Th3Birdman

    • @brandannix8711
      @brandannix8711 3 роки тому +9

      He used the original trailer...probably protected him with the "General Audience" thingy

    • @thegamerator10
      @thegamerator10 3 роки тому +8

      "No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me!"

    • @brandannix8711
      @brandannix8711 3 роки тому +5

      @@thegamerator10 and it worked 😁 I immediately went back to being 10-ish years old, and anxiously anticipating a movie that, 26 years later, older me realizes I had no business watching lol
      Although, Timecop was worse lol

  • @kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
    @kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 3 роки тому +152

    Jeremy doesn’t watch behind the scenes footage because not only did Linda Hamilton have a twin (R.I.P. Leslie), but the actor playing the security guard and the T-1000 copy are twins irl too.

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 3 роки тому +3

      Huh, cool.

    • @MamadNobari
      @MamadNobari 3 роки тому +1

      Huh, cool.

    • @Endru85x
      @Endru85x 3 роки тому +18

      Shhh, don,t tell it to CinemaSins fanbase, you will ruin their precious "satire" .

  • @FinnishUncleSam
    @FinnishUncleSam 3 роки тому +485

    Should've given 3000 sins for even thinking of sinning this masterpiece

    • @WongWillDoIt
      @WongWillDoIt 3 роки тому +35

      That would've been *munches chips* padding the sin count, bro.

    • @AssafStone
      @AssafStone 3 роки тому +30

      @@WongWillDoIt normally, yes.
      For this single greatest masterpiece in all of sci-fi history, the one exceptional movie that proves that a sequel can be better than the original...
      It would be completely earned.

    • @w_alderson21
      @w_alderson21 3 роки тому +12

      And another 10000 for actually going through with it.

    • @mikewasowski6964
      @mikewasowski6964 3 роки тому +11

      @@w_alderson21 and another 1,000 just because its cinemasins in the first place

    • @catchannel1484
      @catchannel1484 3 роки тому

      I honestly expected him to do that

  • @lucasjohnson4896
    @lucasjohnson4896 3 роки тому +96

    I honestly thought when Jeremy sinned “hasta la vista, baby” the sin would just be “Jeremy is sinning this scene.”
    Also this is why I like the director’s cut, because not only had the T1000 not interacted with Sarah at that point, it was also glitching like crazy so it might not have felt confident enough trying to mimic her.

    • @magnatcleo2043
      @magnatcleo2043 3 роки тому +24

      Even without that point, The T-1000 has already encountered John multiple times by then, meaning that John is probably at least partially familiar with its tricks. Perhaps it didn't think voice mimicry would be effective anymore, since John already knows that it can do that and would be expecting it.

    • @81chipper89
      @81chipper89 Рік тому +3

      It did interact with her, in the elevator scene at the mental hospital the T-1000 slashes her shoulder.

  • @HimpttinyPrime
    @HimpttinyPrime 3 роки тому +46

    Fun fact: Robert Patrick spent a lot of time practicing running after Connor and not blinking. During the first take of the scene where John runs away from Robert in the parking garage on his bike he actually caught John. Which would have actually ended the film right then and there and humanity would be boned.

  • @joegrizzly1327
    @joegrizzly1327 3 роки тому +68

    The fact cinema sins didn't remove a single sin for the minigun scene is worth 50 sins

  • @jamesgarrett8833
    @jamesgarrett8833 3 роки тому +61

    “Terminator 2: Judgment Day” is one of the great movies ever made. I love this movie so much, that this Christmas I am finally getting the iconic posters as a Christmas gift to own and post to my wall.
    I am so it excited

  • @spencerdosh6663
    @spencerdosh6663 3 роки тому +43

    I love the amount of effort you went through just to wreck Cinamasins, especially the tow truck jump scene

    • @SlamTiltBS
      @SlamTiltBS 3 роки тому +5

      Let's be honest. Cinamasins is so predictable this is got to be pretty easy for Birdman now. It's like LeBron dunking on kid.

  • @PhidSillips
    @PhidSillips 3 роки тому +101

    *Merry Christmas Everyone* 🙂

  • @RuleOf18Clans
    @RuleOf18Clans 3 роки тому +49

    Ok, using Google maps to tear that waterway sin apart was next level.

    • @paulheap1982
      @paulheap1982 3 роки тому +4

      Didn't even need that. Just a functioning set if eyes and brains. lol

    • @lisagaughan7154
      @lisagaughan7154 3 роки тому +5

      @@paulheap1982 which Cinemasins doesn't have.

  • @jdstar0643
    @jdstar0643 3 роки тому +154

    The best Terminator Movie in existence.

    • @NicoBlack69
      @NicoBlack69 3 роки тому +9

      @@bismuth7398 okay I'm just gonna say it, the original Robocop matches this movie in terms of action.

    • @SmrtPhonRtistCF
      @SmrtPhonRtistCF 3 роки тому +4

      Very first Terminator movie I've ever seen as well.

    • @lowkeyimloki8741
      @lowkeyimloki8741 3 роки тому +1

      Chill out dick wad

    • @SCF721
      @SCF721 3 роки тому +1

      Its also the last one to ever come out

    • @terryprice1691
      @terryprice1691 3 роки тому +6

      T1 is my personal favorite of the franchise but T2 is also great

  • @sjbbruins
    @sjbbruins 3 роки тому +87

    I want to see a cinemasins versus EWW Cinemasins battle of the sins.

    • @ondururagittandeska2004
      @ondururagittandeska2004 3 роки тому +4

      Oh c'mon that's not really fair

    • @sjbbruins
      @sjbbruins 3 роки тому +6

      @@ondururagittandeska2004 they can decide on whatever movie they choose. To make it almost fair.

    • @ondururagittandeska2004
      @ondururagittandeska2004 3 роки тому +1

      @@sjbbruins oooh I got one Jo Jo's Bizarre adventure Diamond is Unbreakable.

    • @bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788
      @bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788 3 роки тому +2

      Hopefully the fans aren't gonna be the judges because there are a lot more cinemasins fans

    • @sunnysquishy1590
      @sunnysquishy1590 3 роки тому +1

      I just want a collab between them. Greatest collab since Batman VS, I mean, "Civil War". 😉

  • @christopheraboufadel239
    @christopheraboufadel239 3 роки тому +38

    The Dyson sin can also be interpreted in another way. The time loop occurs after time travel was first invented. so basically in the very first timeline when time travel was first created dyson might have created it all much later than when T2 says it was created, say for example 2010. Time travel was created in say, 2045 and skynet sent the first T800 from the first terminator to kill John Connor and that moment is precisely when the time loop started when the terminator technology was first left back in the timeline of the first movie.🤷‍♂️

  • @marktessendorf4953
    @marktessendorf4953 3 роки тому +69

    I always enjoy these videos. They are much more entertaining than Cinemasins.

    • @sethralavode9012
      @sethralavode9012 3 роки тому +7

      Cinemasins sounds like teenagers whining about things;hella annoying.

    • @catchannel1484
      @catchannel1484 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 3 роки тому +2

      @@sethralavode9012 Cinemasins comes off like someone who never actually watched a movie writing a critique script that's just a compilation of complaints made by reddit trolls instead of someone who actually watched a movie criticizing real issues with the movie.

  • @Schwartzbruder1
    @Schwartzbruder1 3 роки тому +27

    2:25. there's also the fact that when Skynet sent a machine back through time it was completely spitballing it. the first movie made it perfectly clear that Skynet had little to no useful information on Sarah and John except "they lived in LA". so it just dropped the terminator into the city and see if it works. i know sins manipulates things just to say stupid shit but it seems like a lot of people really do think that the machinces are operating from an omniscent viewpoint.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 роки тому +72

    *Grabs Haters, Throws them into car:* " Listen, and understand. That Birdman is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are roasted."

    • @smithwesson1896
      @smithwesson1896 3 роки тому +14

      "Can you stop it?"
      "I don't know, with these fanboys, I don't know."

    • @errorcode6168
      @errorcode6168 3 роки тому +6

      You two are priceless. Good commentary. 😂😂

  • @ronmani9476
    @ronmani9476 3 роки тому +35

    Gotta say Birdman, you win the internet for the day with the "google-earth schooling" of cinemasins LOL

  • @portalslayer3002
    @portalslayer3002 3 роки тому +123

    Haters: hating
    Me: loving
    Fan base: shotgun
    Pointless meme:

  • @smithwesson1896
    @smithwesson1896 3 роки тому +39

    Here's a sin.
    Why do all the cops' pistols sound like they have silencers on them when there's clearly nothing attached to the barrel?

    • @gregorysweet867
      @gregorysweet867 2 роки тому +1

      Meth

    • @Enixgeek
      @Enixgeek 2 роки тому +5

      That's probably the only bad thing you can say about the movie and get away with it.

    • @-SoonerorLater
      @-SoonerorLater 2 роки тому +2

      It’s especially funny when you hear Sarah’s pistol firing and it sounds actually normal lol

    • @cannibalbunnygirl
      @cannibalbunnygirl 2 роки тому +6

      shooting through the smog of LA, so thick it acts as a silencer

    • @Lolbama2012
      @Lolbama2012 Рік тому +2

      @@cannibalbunnygirl This is now canon.

  • @Anand_Ilangovan
    @Anand_Ilangovan 3 роки тому +42

    I believe that, "You'll be back" to mockingly roast CinemaSins again as "Th3Birdman"

  • @DeadhunterThe
    @DeadhunterThe 3 роки тому +10

    17: Not to mention Kyle Reese said in the last movie when Silverman questioned him about not bringing any weapons with him to fight the Terminator with that only living tissue was capable to completing the time travel process. The only reason any Terminator is able to go back is because they're covered in living human skin, or are able to replicate it.
    28: Not to mention police have authority to go where most people can't at any time, and most people don't question it.
    40: A lot of people protest in response to Terminator saying to John "He'll live," along the lines of, "What's stopping him from bleeding to death?" To which I've always explained that the Terminator later reveals that he has detailed files on human anatomy. That said, he'd know every spot to hit a man with a bullet without busting a major artery.

  • @theatheistpaladin
    @theatheistpaladin 3 роки тому +15

    T2 is a perfect example of a sequel done right.

  • @raahimkamaal5363
    @raahimkamaal5363 3 роки тому +47

    Should’ve given Jeremy +20 sins for even thinking of thinking of sinning the magnum opus of sequels

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 3 роки тому +4

      I'm pretty sure the magnum opus of sequels is Empire Strikes Back, or Godfather Part II

    • @raahimkamaal5363
      @raahimkamaal5363 3 роки тому +1

      @@erichfiedler1481 shit forgot to put terminator before sequels

    • @sjbbruins
      @sjbbruins 3 роки тому +1

      @@erichfiedler1481 this is one of the top ten. If there are even ten.

    • @ondururagittandeska2004
      @ondururagittandeska2004 3 роки тому +2

      @@erichfiedler1481 Nah that title goes to Battle tendancy_ er I mean Shreck 2

    • @danlevan6138
      @danlevan6138 3 роки тому +2

      Godfather 2 is a snooze fest. Way overrated. Empire and T2 are basically a coin flip. Both have stood the test of time. Both had many shitty sequels.

  • @Erbmon
    @Erbmon 3 роки тому +18

    Foundries explicitly almost never close, it's more expensive and energy consuming to turn the foundries off and on then to simply keep going even if you have no one working there (which never happens for obvious reasons) they get turn off for maintenance twice a year as a standard rule.

    • @magnatcleo2043
      @magnatcleo2043 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah that's the thing, does he think they close up shop at the end of the day and leave the molten steel just sitting there overnight?

  • @windraizou
    @windraizou 3 роки тому +76

    Should have given him 20 sins just for sinning this movie in the first place.

  • @juggernautwzrd
    @juggernautwzrd 3 роки тому +13

    i really liked the google maps part i never understood how the truck had the speed to go though the wall but now i know thank you

  • @JuanVilorio
    @JuanVilorio 3 роки тому +11

    8:30 "Even if it knew, it wouldn't have known it was there to PROTECT John, nor would it have any reason to prepare weapons to defeat the T-800, especially when the T-1000 itself is a weapon capable of defeating a T-800
    Facepalms all around"
    Just in case any of you were interested

  • @DesecratedTTV
    @DesecratedTTV 3 роки тому +38

    Mate the "Chill out, dickwad" is such a beautiful response to hate and I think it deserves to be recognized

  • @OptimusPhillip
    @OptimusPhillip 2 роки тому +14

    Also, having the T-1000 emerge from a skin-cocoon would kind of kill the misdirect Cameron was trying to pull off, since the audience was supposed to believe Arnie was the killer and that the other guy was the protector, like in the first movie, until the shootout in the mall.
    Not that it ended up mattering, since the marketing department spoiled that twist, but Cameron couldn't have known that would happen.

    • @noahvance6160
      @noahvance6160 Рік тому +2

      Also, there's fact that when you know the twist from the get-go, it makes the small moments foreshadowing who's the hero and who's the villain that much more obvious, i.e, the T-1000 impulsively killing a cop in order to steal his clothes, whereas the worst thing the T-800 does in order to get the biker's clothes is beat him up really bad after he lashes out at him in retaliation, as well as how after the T-800 suits up, Bad to the Bone starts playing, conveying how said moment is supposed to be seen as cool as opposed to intimidating. Neither of these moments straight up give away the twist, since we don't get any more hints like these until when the twist finally occurs, but these moments from a framing/establishing-character perspective can make it easier to see from the get-go that the T-800 is supposed to be the one we're rooting for if you go into the movie knowing the twist beforehand.

  • @InfiniteFury2K
    @InfiniteFury2K 3 роки тому +85

    YES. Finally, there's a way for me to watch Jeremy's Terminator 2 video without YT telling me "can't do that in the UK". Seriously, f*ck you, UA-cam.
    Onto the movie thoughts. I LOVED this movie and the previous one. Both those Terminator films are two of the GOAT Sci-Fi Action films out there in the real world, and I trust that they're the only two Terminator films worth watching (also the only two I MYSELF have seen). The inclusion of John Connor here is really cool, and his badassery makes the film itself far more enjoyable, and adds to the factor of it being nice to see Sarah Connor return for round 2 with James Cameron's Terminator Franchise. It was heartbreaking to see Arnold throw in the towel at the end, too.
    Anyone reading this comment, you need to either buy or stream the film, but START WITH TERMINATOR 1

    • @TheNotverysocial
      @TheNotverysocial 3 роки тому +6

      Ain't it great they made it so easily and widely available. No need to stream it.
      And you can throw all the shade you want at it, but T3 does loosen up the plot hole, paradox issues, lesser quality be damned, as he was going to point out, but he clearly knew saying the whole thing would lose him karma points.

    • @Endru85x
      @Endru85x 3 роки тому +1

      T3 had it share of flaws, but i will always defend it because of ending. The war is inevitable and the cycle is going to repeat. And that was enough for me, we have a lot of futuristic wars in history of cinema, Terminator was about different themes.

    • @errorcringyname4044
      @errorcringyname4044 3 роки тому +3

      I would defend salvation it tried something new

    • @dtkedtyjrtyj
      @dtkedtyjrtyj 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheNotverysocial I defend Terminator: Genisys because it continued that timewar theme. Unfortunately while the story was great, the storytelling didn't appeal and we will probably never get a Termimator 5 .

    • @TheNotverysocial
      @TheNotverysocial 3 роки тому +2

      @@dtkedtyjrtyj I'd argue it did not need to become a franchise to begin with, as the story was pretty self contained to begin with. In fact, T2 owes its existence to the budget and time constraints that hovered over the first film, or Jim'd made it just one movie. Like Tim Burton, he isn't fond of making franchises out of standalone movies, and piling one sequel on top of another.
      However, the argument against T2 being it as John Connor shall not exist is perfectly valid, and T3, which is full of shortcomings was onto something with its inevitability theme. Uplifting as making our own luck is and controlling our own fates, the plain fact is there are always variables beyond our control, and things simply happen. The universe is too far and wide for such miniature specks like us to have total control over it. And given John's existence depends on it, the downer ending is justified.

  • @xR0N1Nx
    @xR0N1Nx 3 роки тому +12

    I lol'd at the thought of a Terminator mopping a floor with two people and a dog

  • @bboss7874
    @bboss7874 3 роки тому +14

    This channel made me realize, once CinemaSins videos went from 3 and 4 minutes to 20, that they were on a lot of b******t. 🤔😭

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu 3 роки тому +20

    Re: the comment at the end. Imagine thinking this channel is just stealing content. Imagine watching this and thinking "This is just stealing Cinemasins' content!"
    Critiques, reviews, and parodies are all just stealing content now, folks. They got us.
    Wait a second, did a content ID bot leave that comment?

  • @tomlinson1710
    @tomlinson1710 3 роки тому +13

    T2 is one of my favorite movies of all time

  • @pastmistakes524
    @pastmistakes524 3 роки тому +14

    10:41 WHAT?! TERIMATOR IS FREE ON UA-cam?! Welp I know what movie I’m watching tonight.

    • @paulheap1982
      @paulheap1982 3 роки тому

      Did ypu manage it? Cause u couldn't find anything but 23 part 4 minutes at a time playlists with parts like missing, in low quality. lol

    • @pastmistakes524
      @pastmistakes524 3 роки тому

      @@paulheap1982 ua-cam.com/video/s7_qI6_mIXc/v-deo.html here ya go

    • @kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
      @kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 3 роки тому

      “Terimator.”

  • @BigBruthaH
    @BigBruthaH 3 роки тому +10

    9:55
    Damn.....Bro just whipped out the Google Map....that's just brutal

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 3 роки тому +16

    Alright, time for the comeback: 1) CinemaSins thinks it’s a sin for movies to have a fictional history because they think all movies take place in our reality. This how kids watch movies btw 2) this can’t be a sun if she’s actually picking a lock... which she is 3) Yes, Jeremy, why didnt the he kill Sarah connor while he was fighting the T-800, A SCENE YOU JUST SHOWED?
    Sentence: Hasta la vista, baby

  • @bumblebee9736
    @bumblebee9736 3 роки тому +2

    This video made me aware of the fact, that i can watch the entirety of T1 right here on YT. I thank you for that, good sir.

    • @Th3Birdman
      @Th3Birdman  3 роки тому +2

      Glad to help 😁

    • @batmanbeyond5766
      @batmanbeyond5766 2 роки тому

      i cant find it on YT, i think some stupid company had it taken down

  • @blueguy2431
    @blueguy2431 3 роки тому +42

    Th3Birdman must have the patience of a saint. Hearing Jeremy try and explain things makes me cringe so hard I almost can't watch these videos. Its a good thing Th3Birdman is actually funny.

  • @Splackavellie85
    @Splackavellie85 3 роки тому +3

    16:05 I've seen T2 dozens of times, but this is genuinely the first time I noticed the "Bit happens"-sticker

  • @JiM-SWEET-art
    @JiM-SWEET-art 3 роки тому +5

    John knew about the time machine in the first film too, it just didn't specifically say it or show it. In fact, the whole time loop was evident because Reese told us what he knew and the time loop paradox was apparent.

  • @rilluma
    @rilluma 3 роки тому +8

    "He's BACK, For GOOD!" Well said, epic trailer voice. Well said..

  • @wiredtardis
    @wiredtardis 3 роки тому +4

    A couple of things I notice about Terminator 1 and 2 when you put them together as their own thing (as they should be):
    1. Terminators will go after the parents of the target if they can't trace the target itself (T1: Sarah's mom; T2: Foster parents, then Sarah)
    2. If you extend that internal logic to Skynet itself, then within that logic, the first Terminator to be sent back would be the pristine, advanced T-1000 to kill John, followed by the T-800 to kill Sarah. Following this logic, John would send a copy of that same T-800 model first before sending back Reese to blow the whole place.
    3. For an action film series filled with high-concepts, there's great attention to symbolic details. Sunglasses representing the T-800's shift toward humanity and Sarah shift away from it. Kyle Reese appearing like an angel to send Sarah on her mission (falling from the skies in 1 and angel lighting on him in 2). T-1000 and T-800 dying in factories that make the core components of their being, as well as a hellscape for the T-1000.
    4. John Connor is correct in every key decision: Choosing to save Sarah, choosing to save the T-800 from Sarah, choosing to save Dyson from Sarah. The born savior of humanity is showing his instincts as a leader and protector of humanity.
    Anyway, just some thoughts that come to mind when re-watching the first two films 40 billion times. Hope you guys might enjoy one of these points.

  • @Mr.BrentJ
    @Mr.BrentJ 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for doing this, as a screenwriter myself people loooove to try and poke holes in your story when there isn't any if they just sat down and actually paid attention to your film! SO THANKS SO MUCH!

  • @fueledbyoreos2457
    @fueledbyoreos2457 3 роки тому +8

    This back-to-back content, what a very merry christmas indeed

  • @barrygormley3986
    @barrygormley3986 3 роки тому +16

    Jeremy doesn't seem to get that including extraneous details that don't advance the story or develop the characters is a sign of bad writing. Except he does and will sin it whenever it occurs. It's just that he also sins it when it doesn't occur.

  • @Tb0n33999
    @Tb0n33999 3 роки тому +7

    I miss the classic "trailer voice guy"

  • @StarWarsStory
    @StarWarsStory 3 роки тому +6

    Hey Birdman, I have a question about this movie.
    You repeatedly say the first 2 Terminator films are operating in a loop, meaning everything that happens has already happened, rinse and repeat.
    I'm not disagreeing, especially if James Cameron's confirmed this but I am confused, I always thought T1 was a closed loop, seeing as the kid takes the same picture of Sarah that Reese was given by John. Everything lines up with Reese's account of John. But in T2, aren't they changing things the moment Sarah goes after Dyson? I thought by destroying Dyson's work,THAT was when timeline's altered, no?

    • @Th3Birdman
      @Th3Birdman  3 роки тому +5

      No, that's correct: this movie breaks the loop. Once she goes after Dyson, this causes the events of RotM and Genysis in the original timeline, and the events of the Dark Fate timeline. Everything was the same up until the moment Sarah goes after Dyson-- originally, Sarah teaches John how to survive and then she dies sometime later (which also happens in RotM).

    • @StarWarsStory
      @StarWarsStory 3 роки тому +1

      @@Th3Birdman Thank you for kindly taking the time to reply, this is why I've just joined your Patreon :)

  • @MasterAnakinSkyWalker
    @MasterAnakinSkyWalker 3 роки тому +7

    7:28
    Another failed-to-mention point is the fact that this dream sequence is only in the Extended Version, not the theatrical version

  • @bobby43williams
    @bobby43williams 3 роки тому +16

    8:30 in the morning sins video?? I'm in!!

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 3 роки тому +4

    What do we want?
    TIME TRAVEL!
    When do we want it?
    IRRELEVENT!

  • @apex2000
    @apex2000 3 роки тому +10

    Terminator obviously an alternative timeline back when film came out.

  • @jaizenfisher7195
    @jaizenfisher7195 3 роки тому +22

    "Were really dope, and full of drugs."
    Yah... *Full of Dope*

    • @sjbbruins
      @sjbbruins 3 роки тому +2

      The quote was “...and by dope, I mean full of drugs.” So yes, that’s exactly what he said, and meant to say.

    • @jaizenfisher7195
      @jaizenfisher7195 3 роки тому

      @@sjbbruins Yes, I know and was making a joke just like him, but refering to the alias "dope" that some drugs are under, as Th3Birdman says it was dope, as in cool, and then said it was dope because of the drugs as a joke, which I made a joke of.

  • @Savoots
    @Savoots 3 роки тому +3

    Good god, 9:53 is why I LOVE this goddamn channel. You're one guy putting all this work and research into disproving CynicalSins and it works brilliantly. Hats off to you, sir.

  • @ex_cathedra4237
    @ex_cathedra4237 3 роки тому +6

    One of the best sci-fi films ever made. Nothing more to add.

  • @kamikelly3908
    @kamikelly3908 3 роки тому +2

    I haven't watched your videos for long. Im a big fan of Cinema Sins but thank you for making these videos. I love movies and I never really realized how much Jeremy pads his videos. I can't wait to watch more of your videos

  • @thescreenslaver8520
    @thescreenslaver8520 3 роки тому +9

    19:15 Jeremy sins this scene *100 sins DING!*

  • @ofwolfandmetal6874
    @ofwolfandmetal6874 3 роки тому +6

    The music in the end LMAO

  • @bloodmime
    @bloodmime 3 роки тому +3

    Bro, I fucking love you. Straight up pulling up google maps. Absolute legend. Sending you love from down under mate!

  • @garganrose
    @garganrose 3 роки тому +2

    It might also be worth mentioning that T-1000 was never put into mass production nor was T-X because skynet was worried that one of them might overthrow it

  • @GremlinReal
    @GremlinReal 3 роки тому +3

    This is great timing, last day of school today and now I get to watch this :D

    • @psycho9702
      @psycho9702 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @freezeflame1
      @freezeflame1 3 роки тому

      Yes!

    • @NavyBluePersonGuy
      @NavyBluePersonGuy 3 роки тому +1

      Dam yall lucky, I still gotta go to school tomorrow on Wednesday and then I get to go on winter break

    • @GremlinReal
      @GremlinReal 3 роки тому

      @@NavyBluePersonGuy Massive rip mate

  • @thermonuclearcollider4418
    @thermonuclearcollider4418 3 роки тому +1

    19:08 Yep, I had a friend who worked the night shift in a foundry: those places are the heavy industry's beating heart and cannot stop, since all the other factories have a constant need for fresh prime materials.

  • @Schwartzbruder1
    @Schwartzbruder1 3 роки тому +6

    3:39. while not explained in this movie it was on some level explained in the first movie. it's crazy right? a sequel movie assuming people have seen the first one...

  • @chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926

    08:15 Jeremy might be making a reference to Terminator 3 here because they specifically state that Skynet anticipated the T-800 being sent back by the resistance and sent the T-X to counter it.

  • @sheep2826
    @sheep2826 3 роки тому +6

    EWW: EWW Cinema Sins: not padding the sin count to fulfill the 69 sin gag

  • @jorgedeanoperez316
    @jorgedeanoperez316 3 роки тому +1

    The amount of effort, research and deconstruction you put on these is amazing. Good work, my dude

  • @dammagrilla
    @dammagrilla 3 роки тому +3

    Damn, Birdman really brought back Ice JJ Fish for this one...

  • @ronnycollins9125
    @ronnycollins9125 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video, brotha! This is one of my favorite movies, and you raised some excellent points. I definitely gotta give you props for your eagle-eye catching of that “Plummer and Hayvenhurst” cross-section over Bull Creek... your tendency to do actual research into shit is exactly why I subscribed to your channel.
    Keep up the excellent work.

  • @devshah2939
    @devshah2939 3 роки тому +3

    Damn Birdman do be having fun sinning cinemasins lately

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 2 роки тому +1

    I literally cant give T2 a single sin.
    Thanks for giving me a new perspective on certain characters and motivations in my favorite action movie ever made like when the Terminator asked about John's eyes or when the T-1000 asked Sarah to call for John in order to sample and copy her voice.

  • @ArlGrmes
    @ArlGrmes 3 роки тому +5

    There's literally nothing wrong with T2. Shame on CinemaSins for even thinking about sinning this masterpiece.

  • @x-ray5300
    @x-ray5300 2 місяці тому +2

    CinemaSins logic when trying to analyze movies is “How can this movie take place in the year 2029 when we’re just in the year 2024?”
    CinemaSins Sin Counter: 1

  • @jamesfrey6136
    @jamesfrey6136 3 роки тому +3

    Birdman: I can take it
    Subtitles: YOUSONOFABIT-
    Lol

  • @kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
    @kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 3 роки тому +1

    Continuity sin: 13:07 Hammer on the pistol is clearly cocked and ready to be fired, then in the next shot it’s forward again, then when Arnold puts it away, the hammer is cocked again.

  • @walteracevedo5105
    @walteracevedo5105 3 роки тому +4

    Timberlake Punchline Cliche
    *DING*
    Th3Birdman: 8:25

  • @thatsmileonyourface2159
    @thatsmileonyourface2159 3 роки тому +2

    I love how much content your pumping out I’m never bored

  • @TatoISR
    @TatoISR 3 роки тому +3

    1:45 “this is how kids watch movies btw”
    Actually that’s incorrect, since children actually possess an iota of intelligence

  • @lordsalty3661
    @lordsalty3661 3 роки тому +2

    I have been watching CS for years now and I love his content. I come across one of your videos a bit ago and you got the insta-sub-like and whatnot. I love both of your videos even more with every watch. You both do a great service to the movie industry IMHO.

  • @rocco2926
    @rocco2926 3 роки тому +3

    mans is spitting facts all day every day keep it up bro!

  • @workingstiff0586
    @workingstiff0586 Рік тому

    8:30
    That quick type-clip you put there is what I was hoping you would say. It's still there

  • @Greenscyth22
    @Greenscyth22 3 роки тому +3

    13:56 if CinemaSins were actual fan's of the movies they make videos of, at least ONE of their writers would have had knowledge of this behind the scenes fact. CinemaSins is BAD at researching the movies they sin...

  • @kuda9464
    @kuda9464 3 роки тому +1

    The song at the end of this video is just like that "she's gonna blow him away!" line, it's so bad, it's good.

  • @ovalrock5527
    @ovalrock5527 3 роки тому +3

    8:27 where do you get that video from? Also, terminator is one of my favorite franchises so thanks for doing it justice.

  • @grindorblackout1986
    @grindorblackout1986 3 роки тому +4

    1:30 Is the sin that the movie was saying judgment day was going to happen, but it didn't?
    Jeremy did watch the part of the movie where they prevented Judgment Day, right?

  • @darthsasquach-f9w
    @darthsasquach-f9w 3 роки тому +1

    I have watched this movie nearly a hundred times since it came out. It was not until watching this video that some of the issues I had with it were resolved...for instance, I never understood how the T-1000 was able to time travel. Thank you for clarifying some things.

  • @neoluthuli3254
    @neoluthuli3254 3 роки тому +3

    Dark Fate made this film irrelevant for killing John in the first few minutes.
    Fuck that movie!

  • @Schwartzbruder1
    @Schwartzbruder1 3 роки тому +2

    Bruh. They really bout to have Starro the Conqueror in a live DC movie. Crazy

  • @adriel9218
    @adriel9218 3 роки тому +1

    Loving these back to back releases Th3Birdman. Keep up the great work my guy 🙌

  • @wadewatts1441
    @wadewatts1441 2 роки тому +3

    I love the way you watch movies, you use rational thinking to see things the movie doesn't exactly say or do. Not nearly enough people do that. And that's why we have cinasins and "plot holes" that aren't plot holes. Just use your brain people.