The Finale of Fishman Island with
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- In this episode we discuss the end of Fishman Island (chapters 627-653) with Merphy Napier!...
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Thank you for having me in again!!!! I loved hanging with you two so much!
I hope to see you here again!! (especially WCI with a certain P)
Always a pleasure Napier X Vol 1. One Piece Collabs👍
W collab
Thank you so much for coming on! It’s always a pleasure talking with you! 🙏🏻💜 We Fish-man Island stans MUST STICK TOGETHER! 😂
I totally agree with all you guys that Hody Jones being a representation of generational racism works THEMATICALLY. But for the main villain of the arc to not have personal emotional stakes in his philosophy ended up feeling lackluster. I feel like Oda could've used someone other than the main villain to represent this theme
My theory on the Fishman Island 'hate' is that this is the point where a lot of people started becoming weekly readers so their experience drastically changed. This problem continues to plague the community for most new world arcs - where a lot of problems people have with arcs - are not/less problematic on a binge vs week to week.
So true. I caught up at Fishman Island exactly. And reading week to week was completely opposite experience from what I was used to
I read week tô week, back in the time, and i loved
"I don't want to be a hero. I love heroes, but heroes share their meat. I want all the meat." Truly an all time Luffy moment.
I think the point if the steroid was: Borrowed hatred, borrowed power. The fact that will power is where you get strength in One Piece, i feel like its important that Hody wasn't actually strong and had to get steroids to compensate.
Borrowed ideas and opinions too. Nothing about Hody is authentic or original, and thats the entire point of his character
Also it's the very first arc after the timeskip. The protagonists should not be struggling immediately after training for 2 years. You got to build up to that stuff again, otherwise it won't have any meaning.
It's also an interesting dichotomy between overdosing on drugs only to help yourself which leads to your own destruction, and Luffy doping through Gear 2 to help others which leads to him winning even though it shaves years off his life.
@@Shauny7488 might as well have been a blowfish fishman, since he was nothing but an air filled baloon
Caribou is fantastic. He's a lurking legend with a bodacious undulating tongue.
Not the lurking legend. LMAO
Finally! I'm sick of being the internet's only Caribou apologist
Undulating
@@brook117 I got King of Lightning flashbacks lol
Hahahahahaha
People who spoil would be hated by Luffy, because he hates when people spoil others fun and take away the mystery of the adventure. Still, don't let it get to you, it will be fun regardless. I got spoiled of Aces death when I was just new to facebook and it was the most recent news or aniversary of his death. I hadn't even started the series at that point, but the whole feed was full of rip Ace or something similar. The feels still got to me at that part of the story.
We’ve actually seen this back at Sabaody when Usopp asked Rayleigh about the One Piece.
Luffy didn’t want to know about the One Piece because it would ruin the adventure.
@@Phanthief95 Yeah, that is the moment I was referring to 👍
When I started dating my gf of 5yrs she swore to everything I'd never get her into One Piece so when it got to really good moments in my last rewatch I would sometimes chat with her about why I loved what looked like a goofy kids' show and how it could possibly be my second favorite manga/anime after Berserk. Well now she's getting excited to reach Arabasta soon and I'm constantly feeling guilt for my play-by-play of Marineford; I not only spoiled Ace's death but the fakeout escape and Akainu's baiting tactics being the final nail in his coffin. T_T
When I first read this arc I wasn't really feeling it because I felt like the strawhats weren't really tested by the villain of the arc. I've since grown as a reader and I can now appreciate fishmen island for what it is and everything it sets up.
yeah most people have that complain but that's the thing looking back at it it makes complete sense... like imagine strawhat struggles here .. knowing there current strength it won't make any sense in the context of story like if fishmen are that strong then they won't really be oppressed by most pirates except for the strongest i.e doflamingos of this world..so them using steroids makes complete sense ..
@@nomanahmed9880 it makes even less sense to complain about because in early one piece the fights were not even a struggle until arlong/ smoker, why would the straw hats be on the top as the second they get back from time skip
@@ultimatedespairgamer6722 Yep Merphy talks about it in this video and her own video. It literally would be terrible showcase of the timeskip if they straw hats struggled a lot in their next battle. Fishman island really showcased that those 2 years were worth it.
@@TyRendition yeah plus about hordy using steroids to me it makes alot of sense like mostly people who take steroids have inferiority complex and it showed in Hordy cause the reason he hated human so much was cause he wasn't strong really i.e his will was weak which in one is ultimate power in haki which is how he lost to Luffy too cause he nullified Luffy devil fruit and lost cause of strong will i.e haki.. Arlong had same problem he knew how weak he was so he oppressed weak people to make him feel good
I know you guys probably forgot and a lot of people have told you already but pluton was already introduced in water 7 they were the blueprints Frankie was hiding and then destroyed. although there is a theory that Frankie is steadily turning himself into a version of Pluton.
So, with that kind of logic.. Pacifista is Pluton.
@@wikansaktianto9215 not quite..... I guess I should have delved further. Franky in conjunction with Sunny and his dock system, may be all pieced together into Pluton......but it's possible the pacifistas are prototyped pieces.....again a theory.
@@wikansaktianto9215 yes
For me, I always theorized that the Oro Jackson was a version of Pluton.
Tom built it for Roger & he was the one who had the blueprints for Pluton before he passed it on to Iceberg (who would then pass it on to Franky). It would also be an understandable reason why the World Government wanted Tom to be executed for building the Oro Jackson.
I rewatched and the blueprint is not Pluton, it’s a weapon/battle ship that can counter Pluton. I don’t know if it’s true or just the translation
If hody Jones was actually strong he would be a terrifying villain. The drugs he takes shows us that not only will he sacrifice his own men to achieve his goal but he will quite literally sacrifice the health of his own body. Truly one of the best depictions of a concentrated type of hatred that runs so deep it becomes cancerous to the person holding onto it.
That's why they say sometimes forgiveness is for yourself, not the person being forgiven.
1:34:35 definitely going in the Josh out of pocket moments😂😂
need a whole compilation video honestly
That panel with Luffy and Jimbei laying together is the most powerful scene not only in OP but manga in general for me
The simbolism of those two men taking the first step to repair and start a new begining for the two races transcend to the real world so hard. Yes it has flaw but in term of theme which One Piece is all about freedom and dream, this arc is a top tier!
It also shows how much Jinbe believes & trusts in Luffy & sees how much of a good man he is. So much so that Luffy offers Jinbe a spot on the crew.
On Sabaody Rayleigh mentioned a special ability of Roger. When Robin asked him how he could read the Poneglyphs. Rayleigh answered that He had the voice of all things.
Im really sad to hear that spoilers are hitting you guys really hard. This is for sure a very hard series to avoid spoilers with, however its even worse when people are purposely trolling and trying to ruin the experience for you. I personally got spoiled on a certain someones death that we all now know. I was lucky that i didnt know HOW or WHEN but i knew its very possible that it would happen. Luckily when it happened it still shocked the absolute hell out of me but i still felt a bit of "oh so thats how it happens" which sucks. My only suggestion is just pretend your hardest that all the spoilers you know MIGHT not be accurate and thus are not worth remembering! Lmao
I got myself spoiled on someone's death, while reading about One Piece, when I was unsure of watching it. But when the death scene happened it hit hard. And on every re-watch/ re-read hits every time
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 Marineford?
@@royalfun1031 Marineford indeed
It’s an absolute miracle combined with hard work and effort that Totallynotmark managed to be basically completely unspoiled throughout his run.
Love the costplays! To add about hoady and the drugs: its an empty power for his empty hatred, and hoardy doesnt care about consequences or what the outcome will be even, he only cares that more fishman hate humans even if thats because of him.
Love seeing Merphy on again with you guys! Great discussion.
The energy steroids (and the arc in general) undoubtedly land better with the Japanese audience, as they pay homage to one of the most famous stories in Japanese folklore: Urashima Taro. Urashima Taro is a young fisherman who saves a turtle and as a reward is taken to an undersea palace. Urashima Taro spends three days there frolicking with the princess of the palace, Otohime, and when he returns to the surface he is given a box and instructed to never open it. But once he reaches the surface, he finds out that during his time under the sea, 300 years had passed on the surface. Wishing to find some way to return to the palace, he opens the box and turns into a decrepit old man: the box had contained all the years he would have aged.
As someone who asked for Merphy to be back for this arc, this absolutely made my day! Thank you so much for being so awesome!
I just wanna put this out ther saying i dont know if all the ancient weapons are gonna be people but we do know that Pluton was the name of the ship that Franky had the blueprints for. All i wanna know is how many are there.
There are three ancient weapons pluton,poseidon and spoiler
Uranus
@@Rahil1160 I thnk he meant how many ships are actually pluton? a single ship or a fleet of ships...
yeah but it gets kinda confusing in enies lobby, where they say that the blueprints are pluton but they also say the blueprints are for a weapon that can counter pluton, so tbh we don't really know
@@jorgitosilva it's one ship
Luffy's "you decide" moment echoes Whitebeard after the Marines got some of his crew to doubt him at Marineford.
I thought this arc was okay for the straw hats return, I had no idea people really hated this arc but I’m glad to see you guys enjoyed it 👌🏾
Another 2+ hour ep you guys are killing it!🔥
Y'all are so wholesome and hilarious, I love you both! I was one of the few who thought that F.I didn't really hold up, but after your discussion with Merphy, I look at it now in a whole new way. Thank you and I hope y'all love what's coming up next! ❤️
I think it was a small moment in this arc that people pass over but chopper saying he doesn't mind being a monster to help Luffy when he was terrified of being a monster in drum island was beautiful
Hot Take - Caribou, or however you spell it, gives me team rocket energy. Generally incompetent, could potentially be very dangerous, but is never able to follow through. So I enjoy his character quite a bit.
The screen in the back ought to be the Volume One logo bouncing around and hitting the corner once every fortnight
I think you guys will really like Namis outfits after the next arc. Oda gets really creative with her outfits after that.
WCI Nami best Nami
Man i should give this arc a read because when I watched this arc for the first time I really struggled, I always really appreciated how oda handled this topic but this arc in the anime was hard to get through.
Post time skip forced me to switch to manga. I watched every anime ep up to FI too.
I'm being holding back to defend Sanji, I feel character needs to be Explain in dept, ESPECIALLY Return to Sabody and Fishman Island arc.
Sanji wasnt always a simp. He was a gentlemen on his introduction in Baratie who loves to serve and entertain Beautiful Women like how a Host entertains in a Host cafe/Bar in Japan., And beside his All Blue Dream, he did Explain 98.3% of staying in the ship was becoz theres the pretty Nami on Merry ship back in Along park. However, as He travels with the crew from East Blue to Grandline, the more pretty Women he meets, the more simp he gets. This is probarly due to his entire teenage years spent in a Small Sea Restaurant called Baratie in East Blue. Grandline is huge, and he met a Beautiful Princess Name Vivi, and a Beautiful archaeologist Assasin join the crew. Serving 2 Beautiful women on Board, and appreciatinh Happiness saving them through his actions. Sanji's had a Full Life Fufill. Or so he thinks, till Nothing Happen. And Sabody. I dont know if you guys had a friend back in Highschool, where he just loves to hang out with pretty girls daily and serve them, like a love slave, like a gentlemen daily. One day he had a bad rumor spreading around him, and all rhe girls he loves to hangout suddenly ignore him for months. He was so depress, ot took him months to recover ans transfer another school. Thats a Sanji I saw in him lol. So Imagine Sanji's 2 years absent of a Beautiful Lady or Just ANY Lady for that Matter. He was having the love style of his life before Sabody, to serve prettt women like Robin/Nami. Then all was taken away in a second, and we got A Sanji with a worsen condition of his prior simp before more then ever. Yes Oda draw his joke panels a lot, even as a plot Amor. But does anyone understand what hes been through in 2 years his 2nd best dream taken away from him? You wont see any other strawhats having thier dreams as close to Sanji taken away, Maybe Luffy. But for me, having seen a classmate exp the same just in months not 2 years, I can understand where Sanji is coming from. Especially if a Man like his wish to spend his entire life dedicated to serving Beautiful Women. Nothing wrong in that.
You can understand why Sanji is the way he is and that doesn’t make it any less annoying him doing it once or twice fine, but over and over and over again and again
@@jac_o7 You cant set expectations on one's character base on your preference. Its like saying Luffy's hungry greed its so annoying everytime he whines about Food. There is no once or twice is fine. This is part of who Sanji is. You can choose to hate it or love it. But you cant love a character without accepting who the character is who he is. Not what you deem or chose him suppose to be.
@@jac_o7 I never really found Sanji's gag annoying (they're as annoying as Luffy's dumbassary). Its only after I got exposed to the western fandom I found out they don't like those gags, so its a cultural thing I guess
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@chinhoewong that’s ridiculous you can definitely like a character with out liking some of their characteristics what a dumb idea. You also have to admit that Luffy doesn’t whine about food multiple times in one arc. It’s that not that Sanji does it that’s annoying it’s the amount of times he does it.
@@far4955 I laugh at some of his gags but their repetitiveness is the annoying part I also do see that some of the western audience does dislike it more, just like Brookes panty joke which I find funny because he doesn’t do it multiple times in one arc
Also small moment from this arc but Luffy saying he will protect Surume´s brother for him was lowkey awesome
I saw Merphy and clicked so fast! She is such a treat to see interact with you guys.
Yay to more Merph.
And yay to Meghamie, hoo i need a drink.
And Megalo Josh is the brightest star in our solar system, sun who?
Yesssss I am so happy that Merphy is back for this arc !
Caribou suffers from "Everything is Fore-shadow" syndrome, like characters don't really need a purpose, Caribou could just be comedic relief, but at this point so many people is like "This is important, that is important, everything is important, everything gotta mean something"
Sanji will be redeemed, through out the series, Sanji is always the clutch save character.
There is seriousness behind caribou? He’s one of the few people that knows shirahoshi is an ancient weapon
The problem people have with Caribou isn’t that they think he has to be important.
They think he *will* be important, and they don’t want that, because he fails at being comedic relief.
YES merphy is back
As I've always understood it, the energy steroid werent for the arc and the theme, the steroids were for showing off the strawhats, for how much they have grown.
Even with overdosing on those pills they really weren't a match for the strawhats (Hody got some cheap shots in couse it was under water), so it just shows how strong they became over the 2 years without showing all the high end moves they have learned. (the standard trope of most shonen, train for move X.. Use move X to finish the next villain. Train for move Y.. Use move Y to finish the next villain. Etc etc etc.
Taking out 50k scrubs with 1 blast of conquerers haki shows these guys are just generally weak. I thought it was a great re-introduction of the strawhats for their new adventure in the new world.
They should have asked Merphy about Joyboy. I want to see her poker face on that. 🤣
Josh's first fanfiction and it's already the best I've heard. I think vanderdeckin is interesting like a darker version of nolan's descendant trying to prove their ancestors right. Obviously not as important but you know
Hello, finally caught up to this video! Listening to you guys has been a blast. I really enjoyed it. Fortunately, you enjoyed fishman island because it gets some unnecessary hate.
Also, I wish to correct you guys on one thing. Luffy recognizes strength but the trait he recognizes most is the heart - the strength of one's heart. You could be hella strong but Luffy won't care about you. He needs to connect with the person first. With Jinbei - it was through his values (when he wanted to stop Marineford from happening, with WB (it was with Ace, with Shushu, Laboon, Sherry and Toto (it was because of their loyalty).
Luffy is someone who cares the most about a person's heart. If the person shows weakness or shows lack of self-esteem, he'll hate them (like his first meeting with Coby and with Shirahoshi) because they devalue and demean themselves to the point where they can't stand up for what they believe. That's why when Coby stopd up against Alvida and when he said that he was gonna be okay despite a being threatened with a gun by Helmeppo, Luffy recognized his strength. The same way with Shirahoshi when he learned how much she sacrificed, how much she suffered and how far she will go for the people of Fishman Island, he told her "Sorry for calling you weak".
Luffy recognizes strength but he likes and respects the strength of ones heart most
There was another enhancement power source that we saw in Alabasta, the Hero Water. It give you a power boost for five minutes in exchange for your lives. The thing I want to know is. Who could’ve created these power sources, why was it created, and who was it used against?
The Nothing/Nothing Happened bit had me in tears anf Josh's face when he said "I don't think you do" had me on the floor. Love you guys so much.
Always thought it was a weird and slow start to the time skip but all these years later, Merphy really helped me appreciate the arc in the grand (line) scheme of things.
Every time Josh was looking at Meghan and saying that Luffy might be Uranus I couldn't hold my laughter.
Josh giant robin fan fic has me dying 😂
I'm glad there are reviewers giving FIshman Island the recognition that it deserves! This is one of the arcs that made me cry the most!
Sanji is my favorite character but you all in the comments have the worst arguments for defending him lmao. I feel as of this point in the series, Sanji is one of the most in-depth and well rounded characters in the strawhat crew. I don't really understand how people think he has less diversity in his character than other strawhats.. I find that most reviewers who dislike the jokes end up just not talking about his scenes at all. I guess it would make sense that when you don't like a character, you tend to pay less attention to them.
People don’t put respect on luffys first red hawk
The memory alloy is Wapometal,the new metal made by Wapol in his cover story.
Just a small reminder since you forgot this (not a spoiler), ancient weapons are not always people if you remember on Water 7 Franky had the blueprints of pluton witch is a battleship (also an ancient weapon)
Technically the blueprints existed to counter car pluton if I remember correctly
@@samreid3417 it was literally just building another pluton the counter to pluton is pluton
Volume One Algorithm gang! Excited to see this collab podcast episode with Merphy, as well as your thoughts on stuff such as seeing Big Mom for the first time.
I loved the Straw Hats wiping the floor with all their enemies in this arc! It truly displayed their determination to get stronger for each other
When they said, "I know what Hody really is" I had a theory for a second that Hody was actually a Zoan who ate the shark shark fruit and just wanted to be accepted as a fish man.
idk if that coulda worked for fishman island the way it was written but that would be an interesting storyline to play out.
Think its basically choppers story but fish instead of human and that could be a very interesting plot
A water resistant devil fruit is broken xD
@@a3-radio I mean u could just be a shark that can't swim lol
@@Zalied but he swims xD
@@a3-radio well ya at that point obviously I just ment in general AZ an idea
I found Hody to be a perfect villain for the arc.
Hody, fisher tiger and otohime shows three different ways to see people under oppression react. And usually when these types of things are tackled it's more otohimes or something similar to fisher tiger that is handled. To put that pure hatered in the center is a very cool way to tackle it. I found it really interesting
Make way, make way..
Our guest is the supernova of One Piece Community with her Observation Haki.
As a part of humanity, you gals/guys hit the nail on head with this review. As a part of the black community in America y’all really tackled this subject with so much grace!!!!!!
Each arc divides community. People say it is aweful or it is one of the top. Same goes for Dressrosa, WCI and now Wano. I personally think One Piece gets better and better.
Same here, i am enjoying it...
Idk if y’all were planning this already, but Punk hazard you guys have to read all the way through. It’s a little long for one sitting, but trust you should just plow through.
I thought that Franky making a point to visit Tom's brother was such an underrated moment in this arc. Really shows how much he loved Tom and illustrates the kind of guy Franky is. Also, Robin going Ponegliff hunting never gets old. Robin the GOAT Straw Hat!!
I been binged watching Merphy recently and I funny enough she was a guest in this week's episode lol
Any-fin is possible, best pun
continue the fish puns I like em :)
HELL YEAH MERPHY!!
Post-timeskip One Piece is a very different kind of story in comparison to pre-timeskip One Piece. And by that I mean that the structure of the New World narrative changes to longer arcs that intertwine in a way that's even more intense than anything we saw back in Paradise.
But seeing as you are more so thematic than hype readers, you should be in for a ride! I'm happy to see you're enjoying the story so far, it's so clear how much this world has come to mean to you. Josh's passion for this is particularly so moving to me because it reminds me of how I felt when I first fell for One Piece, it was life changing.
Everything is connected and things starts coming together from this point onwards, so try to remember details that stand out to you. Chances are there's more to it than meets the eye at first sight! Oda is known for throwing curve balls at us lol.
Remember Ace was born after Roger died, and he's 2 years older than Luffy.
Brook: Death leaves behind a Grudge????
" when you die all that's left are bones"
This line is from Binks no Sake
2:26:35 Pluton is confirmed to be a ship that was build in Water 7. Robin knows where it is (she read it in the Alabasta poneglyph) and Franky burned the blueprints in front of Spanda
this is such a professional and awesome set up for only 11.7k subs. wow
The Ryugu kingdom, Otohime, and the steroids in the Tamate box are all references to the legend of Urashimataro. The treasure of the Tamate can turn a person older if I remember correctly.
Fun fact: Franky Shogun is made from wapometal, a metal that was discovered by Wapol (the former king of Drum island - Chopper country) with his munch-munch DF. It was shown on cover pages with Wapol side story.
As a non-manga guy who loves One Piece I have noticed about anime/manga fans is that how awesome or bad@$$ a character is weighs very heavily into how they perceive the quality. Like, awesome is confused with good. So I think a lot of Fishman hate is just because the villain isn't a cool bad@$$ character, which he is not, but the arc is great
i love the idea behind Hody, a villain that doesn't have a sad story, or any reason to be the way he is, he is just emulating his heroes, who where rebels, but because he thinks they are cool, and not because of their purpose
I feel like Caribou’s whole purpose was just to show that Logia Devil Fruits aren’t shit now that everyone in the new world knows how to use Haki, just another way Oda hyped up the crews new strength. Feels like he’s spelling it out for the casual viewers. They introduce him as this scary/brutal Logia user who’s used to being invincible and then they flip it on it’s head and the straw hats are so far above him in power that he becomes a gag character. I especially love the scene with Pekoms later in the arc where he basically tells him straight up, welcome to the new world buddy, your fruit doesn’t mean shit out here! “Foolish Logia users who think themselves invincible don’t last long in the new world” something like that.
Seems like every other arc in OP makes me cry. This was on e of them for me. The queen was the best. I think one of my favorite moments was Jinbai and Nami's scene. The one where she doesn't blame him for what his people did to her.
Fishman Island deals with racism and it's long lasting effects better than any piece of fiction I've ever read. The contrast between Otohime and Fisher Tiger was masterfully done.
This arc made me sympathize with Arlong. The panel of Arlong and his friends staring longingly at Sabaody Park from the water knowing even as kids that they weren't allowed to go was so damn powerful.
This is also the arc in which we get the second legendary weapon and more importantly the Joy Boy reveal. We also get to see the Straw Hats' upgraded power levels. And we get introduced to Big Mom who is another underrated villain.
Hody Jones was a fantastic villain. He was much more realistic in his motivations. Not every villain has to be a genius mastermind with fantastic powers. Some villains are just roided up sociopaths who crave violence.
The final scene with Jimbei giving his blood to Luffy in my opinion is one of the highlights in all of One Piece.
30:20 I think the moment you meant was when usopp said, "oh boy, I'm losing my edge. I used to bluff better in the past. But now, I can actually do these things." Favorite usopp moment too hundo percento
We know for a fact that Pluton isn't a person since both Alabasta and Water 7/Enies Lobby constantly referred to it as a battle ship, plus the fact that there was actual blueprints of how to build it. But Poseidon being a living person was a wild reveal, making it super damn hard to guess what Uranus might be!
The issue with Hody is that he is meant to be a "bad" villain. He is the result of what the queen was trying to prevent. He is just pure hatred. He was not a real threat to the strawhats, Luffy did not end him instantly because they were underwater. But he is meant to not have a real purpose other than what emerges of a cocoon of hatred and enhancing drugs to remain at the top with his crew over the people he ruled over. Had nothing to overcome other than the queens attempt to take away what had become the reason for his existance: hatred. And even that, he executed poorly and cowardly doing what he did and blaming someone else to prove more hatred. More than a villain he was a symbol of something that had to be taken care of with the most discriminated race in all one piece.
He is forgettable, but he is not meant to be remembered. Only what he represents.
My thoughts exactly, Hody wasn't meant to be memorable. His lack of substance shows how terrifying non-sensical 3rd hand hatred can be.
I feel there have been more villains like Hody Jones on our world than we could imagine.
Just a theory of mine, what if Arlong is a Celestial Dragon slave in Mariejoha and he'll be freed by Nami?
41:20 1:12:40 I said this back when Merph reviewed Fishman Island herself, but I will say it here, too. Hody saying, after forcing the people to prove their loyalty to him, that he was going to kill them regardless if their names were on the papers, that's how a dictatorship blacklist works. You once said publicly that you were in favor of (insert thing future dictator opposes), there's a record somewhere, and when the dictatorship comes they go through those records, and you die or disappear in thin air because you are potentially dangerous to their regime. The closest the US has had to something like this was McCarthy, so I understand the reaction. But I'm South American, we've lived through that tens of times. And while I was born one year after the latest de facto government in my country (Argentina) ended, the ghost of it will never be fully lifted. I'm 38 now, but in my most political phase during highschool and college, around 20 years later and already in the XXI century, we used to prune or cover our faces if we saw the media around, because we feared we would end in a blacklist somewhere.
Now the strategy changed, instead of imposing a dictator by force to remove a leader they don't like, they use the media and propaganda, corrupted DAs and judges, and unless you know something they deem you shouldn't, it seems your life is not at risk, at least just for supporting a cause, or fighting against an injustice. But when I say "it seems" it's not for drama sake, it's because that's the feeling left in those my age and a bit older. Hopefully it's not how those younger than me feel, but I myself cannot be certain. And again, I was born one year after, so imagine how it is for those who had to live through it, throwing themselves to the floor if a car backfired thinking they were about to get shot, or having someone dear suddenly disappear and never hearing from them ever again. That's what Hody's words meant. That was his threat. A lifetime of fear of him finding out that they once said something he wouldn't approve, or what's even worse, of a neighbour who dislikes you because your dog once pooped on their frontyard calling him and lying about you being part of a movement against them
2:24:50 Remember what Rayleigh said about Roger and the Poneglyphs in Sabaody
Love the guests you guys have and yalls energy! Luffy can hear them because he has the voice of all things. Rayleigh mentions Roger having it in saboady archipelago and that’s how he read the poneglyphs. Annnd as far as the ancient weapons, Poseidon is whimpihoshi but pluton was a ship, remember crocodile was looking for it and franky got the blueprints for it from Tom.
1:27:10 it's been established that mermaids can talk to fish, we've seen granny kokoro and camie do it
I am also one of the people who likes this arc a lot for what it is and is not bothered so much about it's villains being too weak and about the whole deal of Hody not having any reason to hate humans and any fishman who would try to be friendly with them. Although when I first watched it, I was kind of disappointed about Hody and his people being so weak because it was always mentioned back from Arlong Park Arc that fishmen in general were supposed to be 10 times stronger than the average human so I was really excited to see how strong they were going to be in the Fishman Island Arc, especially since the arc happened so late into the story and after Marineford but now after so many years, I am way past that. Since you've said almost everything that could be said about the arc's strenghts, I will only add that Fishman's Island Arc may have some of the best flashbacks backstories in the whole series and that those flashbacks were even better than anything that was happening during the arc in the present time
Great job team! Love seeing this interaction with the one piece community!
Hoping to see the next arc soon!!!!
The sea kings can't talk to just anybody, the mermaid princess can talk to them because she's special
I don't know if you discussed this but Hody asking citizens to step on the face of the queen, is similar to centuries ago when Christianity was first being introduced to Japan, the Japanese government asked their citizens to step on the face of Jesus, and any who refused were tortured to death or burned, unless they renounced Christ.
I found your podcast when you had Merphy on for Thrillerbark, and I've been enjoying your One Piece reviews and your Done-Kai Series. Keep it up, also your new One Piece art looks sweet.
My two favorite UA-cam channels collabing once again! Maybe they will collab again if volume one does a hxh series
Pre Ts Analysis- Yooo this characters are fire
Post Ts Analysis- Yooo this worldbuilding is fire
I’m a biologist and I absolutely love the trip to Fishman Island. I also really love the return to Sabaody for comedy and emotional reasoning (I was a weekly reader at this point).
However, even then, I felt somewhat disappointed reading Fishman Island week to week. On a reread it was okay, it’s just not the highs One Piece usually reaches and I guess that translated as ‘bad’ to a lot of people.
The red pills/drugs metaphorically represented the hatred that empowered Hordy and became the very reason for his downfall.
2 hour episode!!!
People who hate this arc are just annoyed that we didnt see a New World level villain and the Strawhats low diffed everyone in this arc. I like that this arc focused more on the world and the hate filled cycle that governs it.
Merphy just holding his excitement so hard to try not spiling anything. 🤣
People often forget mermaids can talk to fish... Camie asked the fish around the red line to take the straw hats to duval's base... and they explicitly told her that they could take them most of the way and then proceeded to make an arrow formation to guide them...
I love that merphy understands the arcs that most fans hate. Sometimes it's not about just the fights and villains. I want oda to be able to show his storytelling skills without confirming to these die hard fans. Chopper had a bad villain but the story was still loved.
Both of you were channeling max sass this episode I love it
I think spoiling stuff gives people a slight high. When you get to a big moment it blows you away right. It gives you a huge emotional impact right. So when someone spoils I think they're trying to artificially create that. It's not a good thing to do and the outcome isn't what they are actually going to get, but maybe that's the mindset.
I am not a big fan of the arc but its mostly because i was reading it weekly
I've had that conversation about whether Hody or Vander Decken was a better antagonist. While I personally fall on Hody's side, the argument made for Vander Decken was pretty interesting. Basically some people felt like the stakes surrounding Vander Decken were much higher than with Hody. They understand that the culture/public opinion of the fishman and the outside world was at stake if hody managed to have his way...but fishman island itself was going to be destroyed if they didn't address Vander Decken.
I think it ultimately boils down to what parts of this arc people ending up preferring or finding more important.
I’m always excited and glad once you guys post a one piece review cause I always adore all the cosplays and puns! 12/10 🔥💯
Definitely most of the haters come from the anime watchers who are still adjusting to the change of pacing. It was pretty late for me, like I was already in Punk Hazard when I realized that the episodes are purposely dragged out. I liked everything so much more when I started reading the manga. That's when you realize how terrible the fillers they put in the episodes. One Piece in general don't deserve the hate for how TOEI handle its anime adaptation. I really enjoyed this and Merphy's review of this arc, ya'll proof that OP is much more enjoyable in the manga.
Edit: Except Sanji, of course, he was insufferable in this arc. I swear without his horniness he'll easily be a favorite.
The one thing I don’t see people bring up a lot are the draw backs of the pills and how they steal your youth/years of your life. I like the idea that you’re wasting your life holding onto that hatred and you just end up as angry old men in the end.
I’d be interested to know what you all think
RE: Fish Steroids and the Tamate Box.
In isolation, I totally get the lackluster appeal of Hodie getting roided up to cause havoc. However, on rereads of the series I have noticed that several times have that this kind of thing has appeared several times in the story. Creepy Catfish dude wanted to use them to age up Shirahoshi, the drugs seem to concentrate life force in shorter installments at the cost of physical health (borrowing from your future vitality, metaphorically speaking). We saw this in Alabasta when the guards took their version of the Ancient Super Fighting potion, which ultimately killed the guards. Several other devil fruits we have seen (or will see, depending on where you are) kinda seem to fit together with these life-altering substances. It makes me wonder if a secret to immortality or super vitality is wrapped up in the Void Century and the Ancient Kingdom.
The thing that annoyed me most from Fishman Island was Usopps Semi conscious dog bush thing. My suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
If you see this comment and are thinking of commenting about manga spoilers... Don't do it.
Please, it's better to restrain yourself now and preserve their experience, than seek instant gratification and potentially ruin their reading.
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