It's both, and that's very strange how persistant people can be in trying to classify Killing stalking as a psychological thriller exclusively. I do not think it changes as much as you guys might think it does.
@@XxAmyKananxX the crator said it wasnt yaoi-bl and that it was a psychological horror, get your shit straight air-head and stop spreading false information and romanticizing abuse it does change alot you just dont realize it youre advertizing killing stalking as a ROMANCE to new readers. its not good when they might not know alot about healthy and or abusive relationships it can cause a false image and expectations , most readers are 12-14 :/ (sorry i have dyslexia)
@@lanahender5755 TLDR : That's not what Koogi said, she said it's ''not a regular BL''. Teenagers aren't meant to read KS based on Korea's restrictions. but if they do they certainly can identify the relationship as blatantly abusive. And other Yaoi are much more likely to have you look up to an unhealthy relationship because they tend to potray abusive relationships in a romantic/hot way and brush off the implications completely, which KS does not. Ukes are for example raped on the regular, they say ''no'' multiple times, the seme continues and then eventually they give in. It is done because it's sexy and let's be honest if no one found it hot then it wouldn't exist. If you are worried about ''the youth being misled'' then you shouldn't worry about KS for which you have to be blind to not see that the relationship is unhealthy, but you should worry about all the other Yaoi who precisely aren't also recognized as psychological horror because they are systematic in their representation of unhealthy relationships as an ideal. Complete version : That's not the translation I read and therefore for me that's not what Koogi said. She didn't say ''That's not a BL/Yaoi'' but rather, ''That's not a regular BL'' which makes all the difference, it is a boys love with the plot of a psychological horror after all, and in fact I think it very much was tagged/classified as BL when you actually go about searching it and reading it legally ( so as an official classification ). So it's both. And in all honesty, you need to be able to read it and conclude for yourself, even if Nick Cassavetes came out and said ''The notebook'' isn't a romance movie, you should be able to recognize that it shares the very fundation of what makes a romance movie and thus even if he is the director...an alternative interpretation is worth considering. Likewise, Killing Stalking is about two male protagonist relationship building in a sexual way, but arguably, and for a long time made ambiguous by Koogi herself, in a possibly romantic way as well. It has many Yaoi tropes in it's plot and Koogi admitted that she wrote it because she loved reading BL. It couldn't be more obvious. Teenagers from the age of 12-14 aren't encouraged to read it at all, it is age restricted to 17+ in Korea. If you are worried about them not being mature enough to understand that it isn't healthy, then it's irrelevant, because Killing Stalking is ''not for them'' in the first place. It's meant for people who understand. But I would precise that I do not think people who are 12-14 are that stupid that they genuinely can't tell that sequestrating, threatening, beating up, slitting your partner's throat, raping, stalking... your partner is unhealthy. 12+ years old just aren't usually that naive and I won't pretend they are. People who say ''I want Sangwoo to break my ankles'' are memeing, and/or find the character visually appealing/have sympathy for him. I don't oppose them reading it either. Now much like adults, they can be seduced by the intensity of the emotional bound / co-dependancy between the characters, they can have hope for the characters to work their issues out together... And good on them for having a nuanced opinion rather than hyper-focusing on whether or not it's BL and trying to make the story more black and white than it is, to be adamant in saying it belongs to this category and not that other category. You guys are just obsessively repeating the same key words you've heard other people say and display a worrying lack of understanding of nuance, critical thinking and logic. You guys worry more about whether or not it's moral to label the story one way or another, terrified perhaps of being in the ''bad side'' than what the story is actually trying to tell. BL and psychological horror aren't mutually exclusive, and Killing Stalking is an example of that. Lastly, and most importantly perhaps, the fact that you consider that Psychological horror = Unhealthy relationship and people are gonna look at it recognizing it is a bad relationship, and Yaoi = Healthy relationship and people/children are fine to look up to those representation is baffling to me. If anything, ''regular Yaoi'' , the books that aren't Killing Stalking but are representative of the genre and are much more ''tame'' in their story are by far, more likely to give people wrong expectations in a same sex relationship. How many times have I read a scene where a ''Seme'' was basically raping the ''Uke'' who then midway decided he liked it after all, how many Seme pushed their Uke up a wall, how many ukes were emotionnaly manipulative/unable to communicate their needs properly and honestly, how many scenes of physical and/or verbal violence was brushed off within the story...countless, and each and everyone of these tropes are potrayed as romantic and sexy, in a systematic way. Regular Yaoi's are more ''subtle'' but that's precisely why they are more likely to have you look up to the relationship. Killing Stalking is showing a blatantly unhealthy relationship, with those tropes, and it makes perfect sense in the story that the characters act like that. In other Yaoi's, it sometimes doesn't make sense at all, it's just there to be romantic and hot because it appeals to the reader, and the actual consequences/implications of what is essentially still abuse, are brushed off... because they are just not potrayed as such. And I tell you that as someone who likes dark story, I like ''Unhealthy relationship tropes'' when they make sense and are well done, I would be part of the public for it really, but I am just also someone who knows that a ''devil'' you can identify as such is much less likely to seduce than one you don't.
I usually like angst and toxic things (because I like pain don’t question me.) but this just grosses me out- like genuinely I can’t even try to get behind it, it creeps me out and I want black haired guy to run the fuck away please. I feel like I would only ever read this if I couldn’t find anything and wanted to cry for some reason, which this would definitely make me and I don’t think I’d even make it all the way through-
Yes, we know, but it is how we refer to the relationships in the sexual sphere that Sangwoo and Bum have, since obviously we cannot say boys love, but neither "a story where 2 boys have sex but it is not love since they have psychological problems which make them confuse their feelings "so we only say yaoi (which is another way of saying boys love but also sexual relations between boys so there is no other way). PS: I wrote this with the google translator sorry if it is not well understood ✌😓
@@Jellysp Yeah but the only reason sangwoo "slept" with yoonbum is because he looked like his mom I mean I get it's in the yoai section (which it shouldn't be) but it's not really a yoai I mean sangwoo has forced yoonbum to do it with him when yoonbum clearly says no but gives in because he thinks it's "sangwoo's way of showing love" but I'm not trying to start an argument I'm more of agreeing to disagree and english translation was fine
@@biicu.k1677 That's why "A story of 2 boys having sex but it is not love because they have psychological problems that make them confuse their feelings" xD, Sangwoo is totally traumatized by his mother and he forced Bum to do things he did not want and Bum is totally confused there is no love and it is not yaoi in the sense that it is not a relationship but in addition to that and psychological terror we cannot call it another way and I totally agree with you.
Toxic but low key cute I don’t know who needs to hear this but If your going through something like this please understand that it won’t end up like these guys and seek help
@@taejaykayshipper4442 I don’t think it’s cute but I like it Bc toxic things make me cry and be depressed and for some reason I like that- idk I prefer angst and toxic stuff to fluff (but I don’t like it when toxic relationship isn’t fixed eventually or if it’s treated as healthy Bc it’s most definitely not-)
@@taejaykayshipper4442 bro same- I purposely look for things like this to watch. Like there’s this one studio that makes BL anime (I think it’s actually same one that made what was it, like the uhhhhh that popular anime w Aqua or somethin) and the relationships are always so damn toxic and messy and I like to watch them for no reason. Also the art style makes me laugh lol
they are not crazy in love. Please dont romanticize this kind of relationship. This is a psychoIogical horror even through I know, that it have a lot of yaoi scenes. But please, it looks like you need to be smart enough to read this. THIS IS NOT CUTE, ADORABLE ETC
It is kinda scary how so many people feel bad for sangwoo when he died. Its so messed up. Like don't y'all get that he was a narcissistic psychopath and a sarial killer. This is low-key like girls drooling over RIchard Ramirez and feeling bad for him as he had a rough childhood. Yes,his childhood was fucked up but that does not mean that he is a person to be pitied? Tbh, if sangwoo was overweight and ugly ( in the eyes of society) you all would be so fucking happy he died. Also he didn't kill yoonbum as he wanted to keep around as a toy. we all live in such an idealistic society where we want to think that every person should have a happy ending but they can't and they won't . Stop shipping them please, this was purely Stockholm syndrome. Also sangwoo really isn't gay. He never loved yoonbum and never will.
![[BL] ➢ I am crazy for you | "Every you, every me" ทุกๆ เธอที่รัก FMV](/img/n.gif)
it's not a yaoi, it's a psychological thriller !!!
It's both, and that's very strange how persistant people can be in trying to classify Killing stalking as a psychological thriller exclusively. I do not think it changes as much as you guys might think it does.
@@XxAmyKananxX the crator said it wasnt yaoi-bl and that it was a psychological horror, get your shit straight air-head and stop spreading false information and romanticizing abuse it does change alot you just dont realize it youre advertizing killing stalking as a
ROMANCE to new readers. its not good when they might not know alot about healthy and or abusive relationships it can cause a false image and expectations , most readers are 12-14 :/
(sorry i have dyslexia)
@@lanahender5755
TLDR : That's not what Koogi said, she said it's ''not a regular BL''. Teenagers aren't meant to read KS based on Korea's restrictions. but if they do they certainly can identify the relationship as blatantly abusive. And other Yaoi are much more likely to have you look up to an unhealthy relationship because they tend to potray abusive relationships in a romantic/hot way and brush off the implications completely, which KS does not. Ukes are for example raped on the regular, they say ''no'' multiple times, the seme continues and then eventually they give in. It is done because it's sexy and let's be honest if no one found it hot then it wouldn't exist. If you are worried about ''the youth being misled'' then you shouldn't worry about KS for which you have to be blind to not see that the relationship is unhealthy, but you should worry about all the other Yaoi who precisely aren't also recognized as psychological horror because they are systematic in their representation of unhealthy relationships as an ideal.
Complete version :
That's not the translation I read and therefore for me that's not what Koogi said. She didn't say ''That's not a BL/Yaoi'' but rather, ''That's not a regular BL'' which makes all the difference, it is a boys love with the plot of a psychological horror after all, and in fact I think it very much was tagged/classified as BL when you actually go about searching it and reading it legally ( so as an official classification ). So it's both. And in all honesty, you need to be able to read it and conclude for yourself, even if Nick Cassavetes came out and said ''The notebook'' isn't a romance movie, you should be able to recognize that it shares the very fundation of what makes a romance movie and thus even if he is the director...an alternative interpretation is worth considering. Likewise, Killing Stalking is about two male protagonist relationship building in a sexual way, but arguably, and for a long time made ambiguous by Koogi herself, in a possibly romantic way as well. It has many Yaoi tropes in it's plot and Koogi admitted that she wrote it because she loved reading BL. It couldn't be more obvious.
Teenagers from the age of 12-14 aren't encouraged to read it at all, it is age restricted to 17+ in Korea. If you are worried about them not being mature enough to understand that it isn't healthy, then it's irrelevant, because Killing Stalking is ''not for them'' in the first place. It's meant for people who understand. But I would precise that I do not think people who are 12-14 are that stupid that they genuinely can't tell that sequestrating, threatening, beating up, slitting your partner's throat, raping, stalking... your partner is unhealthy. 12+ years old just aren't usually that naive and I won't pretend they are. People who say ''I want Sangwoo to break my ankles'' are memeing, and/or find the character visually appealing/have sympathy for him. I don't oppose them reading it either. Now much like adults, they can be seduced by the intensity of the emotional bound / co-dependancy between the characters, they can have hope for the characters to work their issues out together... And good on them for having a nuanced opinion rather than hyper-focusing on whether or not it's BL and trying to make the story more black and white than it is, to be adamant in saying it belongs to this category and not that other category. You guys are just obsessively repeating the same key words you've heard other people say and display a worrying lack of understanding of nuance, critical thinking and logic. You guys worry more about whether or not it's moral to label the story one way or another, terrified perhaps of being in the ''bad side'' than what the story is actually trying to tell. BL and psychological horror aren't mutually exclusive, and Killing Stalking is an example of that.
Lastly, and most importantly perhaps, the fact that you consider that Psychological horror = Unhealthy relationship and people are gonna look at it recognizing it is a bad relationship, and Yaoi = Healthy relationship and people/children are fine to look up to those representation is baffling to me. If anything, ''regular Yaoi'' , the books that aren't Killing Stalking but are representative of the genre and are much more ''tame'' in their story are by far, more likely to give people wrong expectations in a same sex relationship. How many times have I read a scene where a ''Seme'' was basically raping the ''Uke'' who then midway decided he liked it after all, how many Seme pushed their Uke up a wall, how many ukes were emotionnaly manipulative/unable to communicate their needs properly and honestly, how many scenes of physical and/or verbal violence was brushed off within the story...countless, and each and everyone of these tropes are potrayed as romantic and sexy, in a systematic way. Regular Yaoi's are more ''subtle'' but that's precisely why they are more likely to have you look up to the relationship. Killing Stalking is showing a blatantly unhealthy relationship, with those tropes, and it makes perfect sense in the story that the characters act like that. In other Yaoi's, it sometimes doesn't make sense at all, it's just there to be romantic and hot because it appeals to the reader, and the actual consequences/implications of what is essentially still abuse, are brushed off... because they are just not potrayed as such.
And I tell you that as someone who likes dark story, I like ''Unhealthy relationship tropes'' when they make sense and are well done, I would be part of the public for it really, but I am just also someone who knows that a ''devil'' you can identify as such is much less likely to seduce than one you don't.
Ikr!
Im gonna start screaming if somebody said it yaoi
Cute but that guys crazy😁
no... no... (little bit)
nahhh he don’t bite 😼
I think he did in the early chapters
U cant rlly except anything from a serial killer
Yoonbum went insane when sangwoo died tho
These fits them so much! I-
The remix fits this so perfect somehow
THE BEST!❤❤❤❤
Amazingly insane but also adorable
THIS LITERALLY INSANE I LOVE IT!😍
This manhwa is so healing😎💓
Healing!?
who else is under 18 🙋🏻♀️😗
I feel like someone called me 🙂
Why are you calling me out 😭😭😭😭😭💀💀
Must you be 18 to watch these???
Or over
@@orangegamingtv5929 the manga is 18+
Noice pictures with noice music
AMAZING 👏 🙀
I subbed
they're both cray cray,i'm done with 'em 😌
Perfect
Where can I read the new season?
I actually read killing stalking on mangazuki!
YESSSSS THANK YOUUUU!!!!!!
Wait is there a season 2?!
Ramenai 13 YESSS
@ッAiko_Chan ッ mangago, you gotta make an acc but just make an acc it's where I read all my manga and manhwas now and its really convenient
Yesssss 😤😤😤
I love this manga❤️
Manhwa*
This is not from japanese, its from korean
WOW THIS IS BEAUTIFUL
I'm a grown ass 26 year old woman so that's understandable but the amount of little kids on here is unreal they should be banned from their ipads
Lmfao, well i'm a teen so i pretty much can do what i want now, idk man i live how i want to (not like breaking the law or being mean or anything)
i kinda like this type of love
Wtf
no matter tf that mf’s doing i love him with my whole life
ค่ะ
I can't believe he died
2023 e vuelto a ver este video q recuerdos
CRAZY LOVE 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
MEEE 🙋🏿♀️
and the remix sounds good together
Песня красивая но одно непонимаю языка хоть и учу😂
Разговорный сильно отличается от той же транскрипции и понимать такие беглые строки будет трудно . А так желаю тебе успехов в обучении
好きだー
こっちも一緒
It’s scary in many ways-
@@honeybun8823 i agree but WHY AM I NOT BOTHERED, everyone is terrafied, im not? Look ive read the whole manga twice and i understand it, but ye
@@PEWPEWPEWh idk lol I mean it takes a lot to creep me out too
@@honeybun8823 i understand, i didnt get scared or creeped out but it was traumatizing even tho it was just a manga.
Love but crazy but love sow sweet is sangwo and yoon bum
Take me to church 🤚😩
He is not a Human he is a demon 😓
Evil manipulative controlling man
Yo sigo sufriendo por el final
I can‘t find the sound on Spotify😭
Name?
Killing stalking you can read it on manga owl
Where can you read this and what is it called?
А как называется
Can someone give me the backstory of these too maybe please AHHH and also where can I read it ?
killing stalking , look in websites, it should be
Just Google it and you'll find several websites
@@drgo1029 doubting if I should, looks unpromising 😭 I’m not good with sad things and this looks like the next level idk.. I’ll try
@@Ogshantel girl run, it broke me, not worth it 😭
Where and how i can read season 2? Website of apps?
Killing stalking is not a yaoi or a bl it's a psychological horror. Get it right
Twisted as fuck psychological horror
لطيف ولكن هاذا الرجل مجنون جدا 😁😀😉
اين يمكن ان اجد هذا الأنمي مترجم
@@fatimabotaher4706
اكتبي اسم ذا الانمي
يعني في كتابه إنجليزية
اكتبي ذيك الكتابة الانجليزيه
ورح يجيك الانمي المترجم
لكن لا تكتبي
لكن انا ما ادري اذا جالك انجليزي او لا
esto es de locos literal
شو اسم المانهو لو سمحتو
Wen a psychopath mared a yandere and they had a baby boy 😳👋😂 I want that man
I usually like angst and toxic things (because I like pain don’t question me.) but this just grosses me out- like genuinely I can’t even try to get behind it, it creeps me out and I want black haired guy to run the fuck away please. I feel like I would only ever read this if I couldn’t find anything and wanted to cry for some reason, which this would definitely make me and I don’t think I’d even make it all the way through-
killing stalking isnt a yaoi 😐
Yes, we know, but it is how we refer to the relationships in the sexual sphere that Sangwoo and Bum have, since obviously we cannot say boys love, but neither "a story where 2 boys have sex but it is not love since they have psychological problems which make them confuse their feelings "so we only say yaoi (which is another way of saying boys love but also sexual relations between boys so there is no other way).
PS: I wrote this with the google translator sorry if it is not well understood ✌😓
@@Jellysp Yeah but the only reason sangwoo "slept" with yoonbum is because he looked like his mom I mean I get it's in the yoai section (which it shouldn't be) but it's not really a yoai I mean sangwoo has forced yoonbum to do it with him when yoonbum clearly says no but gives in because he thinks it's "sangwoo's way of showing love" but I'm not trying to start an argument I'm more of agreeing to disagree and english translation was fine
@@biicu.k1677 That's why "A story of 2 boys having sex but it is not love because they have psychological problems that make them confuse their feelings" xD, Sangwoo is totally traumatized by his mother and he forced Bum to do things he did not want and Bum is totally confused there is no love and it is not yaoi in the sense that it is not a relationship but in addition to that and psychological terror we cannot call it another way and I totally agree with you.
@Mina Horvat No it's not 😐
@Mina Horvat It's literally just a psychological manhwa
We’ll I’m laughing at there eyes
El amor más tóxico q conoci
Same but I like pain and crying from these things so I’m here now
So good but sangwoo is a wild man- and a “ AnKLe BrEaKeR”-
Oh my god...
😻😻😻😻😻
2:29 ggy😀
OooooooooHhhhhhhh
tôi xem xong thì nự nhiên tâm lý tôi bắt đầu rối loạng lên
Where can I read it? And what is the name of the story?
Killing Stalking "Dailymotion from Google...
It's sad How such a beautiful relationship got over because of a misunderstanding click they were getting along very well at the end
Alight imma head out 🏃♀️💨
@@non-binaryduck why
Beautiful relationship??
@@sayaligaikwad5487 its a beautiful toxic relationship
@@non-binaryduck "beautiful relationship" WHAT 😭
OooooooooooAAAAAAAAAA😉
I love a boy
Dumn the sound the song is so
Quem gosta disso é lunático
Black haired guy apparently
Guys this is not bl the author already said that
Ok
นายดีหมดยกเว้นสติ-_-
Can't believe i was 11 reading I'm 18 now😅
ممکن اسم الفلم
القتل والمطاردة 💕 الفيلم بتحدث عن تعذيب والممارسة🌚✋ وفي رعب وقتل 👈👉 🔞
@@ملوكهتعشقانس شسوی اهنه ولک😅😅😅
@@یاروحیانته-خ9ض ما بعرف 🌚👈👉✋😂
@@ملوكهتعشقانس ماهو اسم القلم
@@ملوكهتعشقانس الفلم
J’ai tellement chialé...
@Shizuku katsuo Tellement..
Grave
I would literally cry if I read this istg
👌🌈👍😏
Sao anh tóc màu vàng độc ác dữ vậy 😤😫😒
Me
This is not a love story
o lanet teyzeyi bi bulursam
The mom
it aint a yaoi
😕😕😕😕😕😕😕🥺
ตรูจะเป็นบ้าเพราะดูอันนี้เหละ
#янегейяпростолюблюсвоюмаму
Так мы тебе и проверили)
🤤🤤🤤
So 😨
🤣😂
Cute ship but something is wrong
😨😨😨😨😨😡😡
....
ВХХААХАХАХХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХХААХАХАХАХ
Нехера, не понятно
ưao
Toxic but low key cute
I don’t know who needs to hear this but If your going through something like this please understand that it won’t end up like these guys and seek help
Did you finish the webtoon? You wouldn't say this if you did
@@taejaykayshipper4442 I don’t think it’s cute but I like it Bc toxic things make me cry and be depressed and for some reason I like that- idk I prefer angst and toxic stuff to fluff (but I don’t like it when toxic relationship isn’t fixed eventually or if it’s treated as healthy Bc it’s most definitely not-)
@@honeybun8823 i feel you on a different level like I LOOK for angst to watch or read its weird xD
@@taejaykayshipper4442 bro same- I purposely look for things like this to watch. Like there’s this one studio that makes BL anime (I think it’s actually same one that made what was it, like the uhhhhh that popular anime w Aqua or somethin) and the relationships are always so damn toxic and messy and I like to watch them for no reason. Also the art style makes me laugh lol
Págame la terapia
Lmao
😳!!!No
I love sangwoo so much it’s so sad he died and like that it’s awful
Me why
mmm is toxic y bad ingluens sorry
they are not crazy in love. Please dont romanticize this kind of relationship. This is a psychoIogical horror even through I know, that it have a lot of yaoi scenes. But please, it looks like you need to be smart enough to read this. THIS IS NOT CUTE, ADORABLE ETC
It is kinda scary how so many people feel bad for sangwoo when he died. Its so messed up. Like don't y'all get that he was a narcissistic psychopath and a sarial killer. This is low-key like girls drooling over RIchard Ramirez and feeling bad for him as he had a rough childhood. Yes,his childhood was fucked up but that does not mean that he is a person to be pitied? Tbh, if sangwoo was overweight and ugly ( in the eyes of society) you all would be so fucking happy he died. Also he didn't kill yoonbum as he wanted to keep around as a toy. we all live in such an idealistic society where we want to think that every person should have a happy ending but they can't and they won't . Stop shipping them please, this was purely Stockholm syndrome.
Also sangwoo really isn't gay. He never loved yoonbum and never will.
Okay, not all people are sharing the same thoughts as you typed down this. :)
@@robertdavenport2397 'many people' not all
@@aashianahita5269 That is what you think.
:3 me gustó
Love but crazy but love sow sweet is sangwo and yoon bum
no matter tf that mf’s doing i love him with my whole life
what the fuck
@@lgbt4iu yes.
You need help. Please. Please.
@@lgbt4iu I agree, strongly.
Why’d they have to make him so attractive 💀 I need help too
I love a boy