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Miss Kitty would be just hunky dory performing in front of the kiddies if the cancel crowd thought she had a Y chromosome. They seem to be all IN with sexualization of kids if it's done in DRAG.
Most of this is just a tempest in a teapot. EVERYTHING makes SOMEONE upset, and if we were to drop everything that might OFFEND someone, we wouldn't HAVE entertainment at ALL. I DO think it's telling though WHO they're worried about offending. Back in the day when WHITE people had all the power, you had things like this video points out. But NOW racial stereotypes are forbidden UNLESS not IF they're portraying WHITE people in a bad light. They say you can tell who has all the power by who you can and can't make fun of. Looks to ME like the claims of "white supremacy" are no longer valid since it not WHITE people who are forbidden to be made fun of today. Things that make you go hmmmm. 🤔
@@Furienna There's no PC way of saying this so I'm just going to be blunt: The ones that ARE white and claim offense all have some sort of deviancy from the norm, something that affords them "minority cred" as basis to claim offence protection. "You aren't allowed to offend me because I'm.....gay, lesbian, trans, neurodivergent, etc. But if they ALSO happen to be conservative, ESPECIALLY a conservative CHRISTIAN, that fact overpowers and eliminates ALL possibility of exemption from offense. It's perceived to be socially permissible, and almost EXPECTED to offend a conservative and/or Christian with impunity no matter WHAT other factors are involved, since they're perceived to "DESERVE" it.
I’m sorry, but Cruella Deville skinning puppies is the entire point. She’s a villain. She’s doing something wrong, and that’s clear from the start. At least she’s portrayed as a villain, unlike all the other numerous “good” characters who contribute to animal cruelty.
But then they made that dumb live action prequel, basically saying “oh well Cruella skinning puppies is a GOOD thing because she WAHMEN and doggies KiLlIeD her Momma”
I get where you’re coming from but think about it this way. Most of the Disney “villains” would look at her and be like “ look, we’ve all done some evil things in our time but kidnapping and skinning innocent puppies just to make a coat… that’s crazier then anything we’ve ever done!”
highly recommend checking out the off-broadway production of this show if you ever get the chance! they changed a bunch and made it less tonally confused, so it's a bit more adult and accurate to the book but still ultimately the same show now with a bunch more awesome songs! I do kind of think if disney's going to force live action adaptations of anything redoing this with the off-broadway version would be a really great choice. though not so good for targeting families of especially young kids so probably it won't happen. (and the new songs wouldn't make them eligible for an oscar so they probably wouldn't bother.)
So was the Horned King. Not to mention the Coach Man, though he didn't suffer the consequences. Just goes to show that some villains can get away with it, if the good guys are not careful.
Back when a villain was allowed to just be an outright villain. They don't need backstories being told because the story is told from the point of view of its heroes. The hero doesn't know the villain's backstop and so it's not relevant to the story being told. I really miss that aspect of storytelling
I'm glad I was a kid in the 80s when classics were allowed. The adult humor flew over my head, but allowed my parents to enjoy the movies with me, There's nothing wrong with having adult innuendos snuck in for adults to enjoy.
The imagery of Esmeralda in the flames and smoke during Hellfire _mesmerized me_ when I was a kid and was a significant element of what originally made me want to be a Disney animator. I was 12 when Hunchback released, so I grew up with the Disney Renaissance films, Don Bluth, and Fox Animation. Unfortunately Disney started shutting down their traditional animation during my freshman year in art school so I ended up majoring in illustration instead, but after 15+ years in the industry I've never regretted a single second of it because I love what I do. Hunchback is one of the films I owe a personal debt to for that, along with Tarzan, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, and Anastasia.
If the Hunchback of Notre Dame movie triggers people, then reading the actual book will make them spin like a top. The book is way more disturbing and graphic than the movie, and the fact that Disney was able to make the book into a kids movie and still make Frollo incredibly creepy is kind of impressive.
Honestly the Victor Hugo is novel was kinda lame. It was boring, emo, pretentious and WAY too long. While Esmeralda and Quasimodo die, but given that they weren’t that likable in the novel I didn’t feel sad when they died. You want to feel sad about Quasimodo and Esmeralda dying you’re not entitled to it and you have to earn it. Plus Claude Frollo being a judge who’s a racist religious fanatic is FAR scarier than him being a priest because he has more authority and power which makes him more of a threat. Priests don’t have the authority to arrest or sentence people to death. Judges and Politicians DO.
It’s amazing how soooo many of these things go over our heads as kids, but when we rewatch our classic favorites as adults, we’re all like “How did we not even know about this!?!”
I still don't get what's wrrong with those siamese cats 😂 (okay to be honest I always watched it in my own language, they just brag about being cats which equals being better than everyone else - which is a quite correct portrayal of cats tbh)
I love how every one of these classic Disney movies are still loved and cherished to this day! Parents still make sure their kids get to see them and love watching them together. Mean while, today Disney has changed up the way they make their movies and remakes and have lost $120B, laid-off workers everywhere from parks to animators, and ALL of their latest movies (animated or super-hero) have sank at the box office.
1 Disney hasn’t lost any money 😂2 their movies are the same now as back then for kids with adult jokes to keep the adults happy. 3 You just prefer the sexual assault because it’s with a man an a woman instead of a consensual gay couple. 4 Walt was a Nazi an I guess you support all the hidden propaganda 🤦🏽
I don't think The Hunchback of Notre Dame gets enough credit. It wouldn't be made today, but a great book, film and musical. One of my favorites and the "controversy" makes it less vanilla.
Honestly the Victor Hugo is novel was kinda lame. It was boring, emo, pretentious and WAY too long. While Esmeralda and Quasimodo die, but given that they weren’t that likable in the novel I didn’t feel sad when they died. You want to feel sad about Quasimodo and Esmeralda dying you’re not entitled to it and you have to earn it. Plus Claude Frollo being a judge who’s a racist religious fanatic is FAR scarier than him being a priest because he has more authority and power which makes him more of a threat. Priests don’t have the authority to arrest or sentence people to death. Judges and Politicians DO.
This is why modern films suck, sometimes we need things that shock us that's what makes these movies so great & why we love them. If we keep worrying about stupid little things it's no longer enjoyable & becomes boring.
Agree. The world ain’t pretty, that’s for sure. If anything seeing more than half that’s on this list made me realize growing up what can, or can not, be tolerated. We were even shown the Hunchback of Notre Dame during a school retreat (a lot of schools in Belgium are Catholic, but open to every religion and non Catholics too) and then agterwards we had to discuss what is wrong with the Church as an institution or how deep hypocrisy and corruption can ruin it. Quite interesting to discuss at 13 years old.
agreed for sure! I am born into the Gen Z generation, but I grew up on old, classic Disney animations/films. I wish things were more like the older stuff, because the more recent films have the same story in the end: adults apologizing to the main character who happens to be a child. Turning Red, Luca, Encanto, etc. and it’s just very unoriginal. it also makes me so annoyed they’re remaking old originals and some of them aren’t even that good. like, I’d love to hear the old stories they told in modern times.
First of all, wow, I had no idea that McQueen's groupies "flashing" their headlights could be considered an innuendo until you mentioned it. I guess you learn something new every day. Secondly, while I feel that King Louie is fine, I can't and won't defend any of the other stereotypes in Disney's old films. It's amazing how much you could get away with in all those decades ago.
I also watched a documentary on the making of the Jungle Book and King Louie was actually based on Prima. They even based the part of Louie, Mowgli, and another animal in line from Prima’s famous final act of leading his band through the aisles and seats.
I will die on the hill that movies like Hunchback of Notre Dame are very important and absolutely should show scenes as dark and serious as it did. My parents showed me Frollo and basically warned little kid me that I should be aware that men like him actually exist, not just with how creepy he was with Esmerelda but the whole persecution and attempted genocide stuff too. I also was the kind of kid who accidentally taught myself about colonialism so while I didn't fully grasp the depth of how serious these things were, they definitely were not lost on me. It's really healthy for kids to get that kind of opportunity to see the world for what it is, sheltering and breeding naivete with not a good move if you don't want your kids taken advantage of. People out there in the world can be abhorrent.
I agree completely. Frollo is a character that reflects so many real life people & I hope if they make a live action version of the animated film, they don’t cut out Hellfire cos it’s too “dark”
@@paigecrossland4289 They better not remove the creepy hair sniffing or the blatant plan to unalive all the "sinners" he saw in the city or any of the other dark themes in the movie. About the only thing i would be ok with changing is when Esmerelda was pole dancing on stage with the guard's spear. Then again, I remember being a kid and just thinking it was funny and I grew up with way more "adult" jokes in my media and it definitely didn't turn me into some morally corrupt asshole. Jokes like that are there for the adults watching with their kids anyways and have always existed in media aimed for children.
Frollo is one of my "favorite" villains precisely because his evil is so real. The racism, lust for power, gaslighting, hubris, hypocrisy, and so on are so very real and scary, unlike most more cartoonish Disney villains. If there's anything I don't like about Hunchback, it's the message that if you're not physically attractive, no matter how hard you try, nobody will love you back, and the pretty boy always gets the girl. Realistic? Perhaps. But screwed up anyway.
@@GruffyddFO4 Oh I completely agree, Frollo is my "favorite" because be makes my skin crawl. I think he makes my skin crawl more and more the older I get.
@Paige Crossland they've cast Peter Capaldi as frollo and he certainly has the look and the acting chops for it so it will def come down to how much the writers of the film decide to "edit " they'd better not cut hellfire
To be honest I adore Hellfire. Possibly the darkest Disney villain song with a haunting implication. Plus the animation for that scene is impeccable. That whole film is an underrated gem from the Renaissance era imo.
These outdated movies should still be available with disclaimers. We can't learned from the past by cancelling/erasing the past. Parents need to be responsible & have an open communication with their children & not just sit them in front of the TV to let the TV raise them.
Frollo's Hellfire song is and was needed for us the audience to see the true darkness that Frollo had in him. Esmerlda's God Help the Outcasts would not have anywhere the same contrast without it as well. Cruella wanting puppy skins is also needed, these two themes are showing us the villain of the story. Take out the villain and there's no longer a reason for good to fight back, which means that we can't see the truth or the difference between good and evil, and evil continues to win.
It's pretty amazing as an adult to watch The Hunchback Of Notre Dame and to think how dark Disney went with it. Hopefully the live action version will be dark also
The idea that donkeys are often miss treated in real life because they are seen as symbol of multiple meanings. Slavery, beasts of burden, stupid, stubborn, servile, and even abuse. The mythological with it being a reincarnation with vast meanings. It feels like a hat on a hat in Pinocchio
To be fair: Who framed Roger Rabbit wasn't done by Disney; it was an independently done with permissions to use both Disney and WB characters with specific contracts to be able to use those characters.
I never thought WFRR was ever directed at kids, but rather more aimed at older teens/adults who still loved animation, hence the adult themes in the entire movie (such as a baby who smokes and somewhat "gruesome" deaths for Judge Doom & the weasles. Definitely not kid-friendly portrayal of death).
Holy shit that puts RK Maroon’s comment about Dumbo and the cast of Fantasia being on loan from Disney in a whole new meta perspective I never thought about before.
The 1980s created a tougher personality, us latch key kids had to deal with rusty playgrounds, scorching hot metal slides, cycling outside until the street lights came on. Kids movies with adult themes were nothing.
I kinda agree, Some of the stuff in these particular Disney classics are better off left where they are. Because let's face it no matter what today's society is always gonna find scenes like these to be inappropriate, offensive or racist. And at this point it's ridiculous.
That’s what comes from a culture trying to show moral superiority without actually making more improvements. just like family therapy… if you harp on the past…. your are wasting emotional energy on making a better future.
No, why do people not realize it was part of the time and you just have to remember that. Even watching it now wouldn't be offensive. I don't understand why people are so sensitive. Also, don't forget they are just showing the truth or how to deal with difficult subjects.
@KrisCynical why not? Don't take things so seriously. I'm not saying anything is okay. It was just part of the time is all I'm saying and even now they talk like that. They still talk that way and it's okay.
Good or bad these are things that represent the mindset people have every decade. They are part of the movie history. It is good to have these on the movies in order to avoid making the same mistakes again and understanding how wrong was our mindset
You know why they wouldn’t work today? It’s because people are super sensitive over the smallest things. It’s a movie people don’t take it too seriously. Unless it’s intentionally promoting something
Not gonna lie. It did something to me as a kid 😂 I was staying awake, crying for Bambi. But then my mother came to teach me about such events in life rather than shield me from it like they do today
As a parent who took 3 4?5 yo little girls to see the Lion King at the movies. Their reaction and the subsequent several minutes soothing them after Scar kills Mufasa is never going to leave me. Bambie wasn't an issue for me, but if you want to talk mental scars we can talk about Watership Down or the original animated Hobbit (70s).
@@dietotaku I disapprove of that, but now I feel that every film nowadays, has to be put under a political microscope with some people desperate at any chance to find something wrong with it
I never thought that Aladdin was thrown out the window because he "couldn't afford their services" but rather simply because he was known as a criminal who steals. The lyrics very plainly say: "Oh, it's sad, Aladdin's hit the bottom He's become a one-man rise in crime I'd blame parents, 'cept he hasn't got 'em Gotta eat to live, gotta steal to eat Tell you all about it when I got the time" Who would want a known criminal in their establishment? THAT is why he was thrown out.
It was an art form and took years to make each film. I’m not saying computer animators aren’t skilled, but there’s definitely something lacking these days.
There's also the concubine scene in Mulan. I was watching it with kids I was babysitting and when they dressed up as concubines then knocked out the guards, I was thinking "oh. good thing this goes over the kids heads, though I guess it's historically accurate, the emperor would've had concubines" but I might've made some sort of reaction and the youngest noticed or this inquisitive child just caught a word he didn't know (that happened a lot). Anyways the youngest child turned to me and went "what's a concubine?" I said "they are special female servants." But of course he wanted to know how they were special and what they did. That's when I said we were missing the movie and if he wanted to know more to ask his parents later. When their parents got home I gave them a heads up, because we all knew this child didn't let a topic drop for long and that way they had a chance to prepare what they wanted to say.
I was afraid that my nine-year-old niece would ask questions about the aunt/nephew storyline in Bruno's telenovela when I watched "Encanto" with her. But it must have gone over her head, because she didn't ask anything.
"We think the execution of the Pleasure Island scene would definitely be softened to fit today's sensibilities." That's a funny way of mentioning the remake without mentioning the remake. Root beer, anyone?
When you wish upon a star , is a version of Pinocchio where the boys who were turned into donkeys get the magic reversed, Returning them to their human bodies
The problem with The Hunchback of Notre Dame is that the movie isn't for kids, or at least the kids don't understand the real meaning of the movie. And that's why it seems innapropiet or that It wouldn't work today. For me, it's one of the best diney movies. And what It makes good in part it's thanks tho the creepy villain that is Frollo. He's so scary because he's so real, or his behaviour can be from someone from today
i agree just because it's disney doesn't mean it's a kids movie and yeah as a kid i didn't understand the story like the song hellfire, i thought frollo didn't like esmerelda for her dancing i didn't know he was lusting for her, hell i didn't know what lusting was
I don't think the Hunchback would work without Hellfire, besides parents need entertainment too, or they might as well be tortured like when they had to watch Barney.
People need to stop worrying about if they’re offending people or not and cancel culture. They should take a chance do what they want. I remember when I was a kid in the 90’s there were tv shows, movies and video games people wanted taken off the air and pulled from stores but most of the time it didn’t happen because The film industry and video game companies didn’t let a few hundred thousand people bully them unlike today. I remember shows like Jerry Springer, WWE Raw and other shows were considered immoral by parental watch groups such as Parents Television Council and they tried to get the FTC to take those shows off the air but WWE as well as other controversial shows during that type still did some of the most controversial things you could do back then. My point is unless you’re spreading hatred towards a particular group, you should be able to say or do anything because we have the first amendment which is freedom of speech. It’s like we have gone back to the 1950’s with how everyone gets offended by everything. If you don’t like something change the channel or turn it off.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is a film that can be used as a teaching moment that with adolescents and women. Frollo is eventually undone by the same woman who tempts him. Her good natured acceptance of the hunchback shows she's heroic.
Let me rephrase that for you: '20 things "modern" Disney won't allow today.' They will still work, because that is how good storytelling works. Sadly something the writers of today never learned how...
TL;DR: Roger Rabbit, Zootopia and Rescuers aren't valid entries in this list, sorry. Roger Rabbit isn't a kids movie, it was designed for ADULTS who grew up with these characters, 40/50 and up. Zootopia is WAY too recent for "Wouldn't fly today", IT IS TODAY! And Rescuers was an Easter Egg snuck in, not a planned, accepted inclusion. It wouldn't have been authorized back then any more than now.
People need to lighten up! I grew up with all of these films and never thought less of others,no matter their race, color, or creed. We’ve become SO politically correct as to have no joy or humor for fear of upsetting some who have no sense of perspective or are so insecure in themselves that they have become haters and Karen’s. How truly pathetic and sad. No wonder we’ve lost the trust and respect of the rest of the world!
I miss the old Disney from my childhood. Back then, Disney was never afraid to touch on serious issues for kids to learn. Nowadays, everybody is about being “woke.” It’s gotten so bad that I expect any day now that all you would need to get into school is a paper and pencil!
Y'all have bastardized woke to the point it's lost all meaning. At this point people bitch about media being "woke" if it acknowledges the existence of anything other than straight white males. 🙄 Disney is still touching on serious issues. They're just issues you don't like because they're "woke" and thus bad or grooming or whatever other nonsense y'all are on about now.
That’s why I do like the live action especially cos instead of him running into a “house of ill repute” he runs into what I think is a woman’s reading group or classroom
For how controversial Song of the South really is, the one good thing that came out of it was the famous song Zip-A-Dee Doo-Da. You must admit that that song is really catchy and gives you nothing but good vibes all throughout
I remember that when they did an animated series of 101 Dalmatians they toned Cruella down to where she no longer wanted to kill the puppies. Instead, she schemes to covet the Dearly farm. I liked the film version of Cruella better because she is more intimidating than her TV counterpart.
Hellfire will always be relevant. Frollo is & will always be the scariest villain Disney has ever created. The kind of men that Frollo was written after have always & will always exist, using their position of authority or even religious influence to hold power over people, or even worse claim their actions are holy.
My favorite one on this list is “Let Me Be Good To You” (even if it would either be toned down, or not allowed at all in a remake), and the one I hate the most is “The Conveyor Belt Doll”. It took up until just now for me to realize just what was going on with the lab in Zootopia. The Pleasure Island from Pinocchio was just disturbing.
MY issue with Fantasia was actually the Rite of Spring and Night on Bald Mountain scenes. I was so traumatized by that movie because of those scenes I NEVER watched it again!
My mom didn't want us watching Hunchback when I was a kid after we watched it once. Shes not religious, but thought the Judge singing about how horny he was for Esmeralda and being an abusive POS was disgusting. Honestly, I don't blame her, hes pretty gross. But I love that movie. The music is beautiful.
Through a child's lenses he is not horny but deeply in love with her. I watched as a child myself and found it perfectly suitable for the overall movie tone. Some people are seeing porn where there are only human passions that are not in any means a moral deviation for anyone minimally reasonable and objective. It is equally prudish and mediocre to sugar-coat our reality to the point of creating dull and souless animations that disconnect children from reality and lead them to a puritanistic and meaningless level of distortion of the world.
Called it, I knew Song of the South would be number 1, what's crazy is that I remember watching the "Zip a Dee Do Dah" musical number in the Disney Store, did I dream it or do other people remember that? As for the other movies on the list, the ones that I remember most are Jessica Rabbit and The Great Mouse Detective, I also saw The Hunchback of Notre Dame when it came out in Theaters (And to think my dad's a priest, I wonder if he knew this was going to happen, but I also think he wanted me to learn about Zealotry). The Great Mouse Detective was far from lost on me, hell, I even thought the song went "Take off all my clothes" not "Take off all my blues"...Oops...though then again, since her outfit is mostly blue....also, when Dawson lifted his eyepatch and went "oooh! Bravo!...Bravo!" I thought he was seeing her naked..again, oops... Jessica Rabbit...eh, that one did go over my head, when she said the line "You don't know how hard it is being a woman, looking the way I do..." a four year old me was like "Looking? Looking at what? What's she looking at?" Aladdin...whew, glad I wasn't alone when it comes to that one going over my head, I thought they were just a group of sisters hanging out in their house and that lady was their housekeeper or babysitter or something.
I agree that hellfire was very adult content. Being a kind in the 90's, I couldn't have made it out. With today's society, I doubt they would've executed Hunchback the same way.
So, I know this list is "things that wouldn't work today..." But from reading these comments here is my rant. People evolve. We learn, as a society, that certain things are not good. We (well some of us, some are still stuck in the 1700s, I'm afraid) learn to treat others with respect. Sure, today *some* of the things on this list (as there are a few I don't believe belong) would be changed if the same movie was made today. We see that with remakes... Peter Pan for example, and the portrayal of indigenous people. Which is a GOOD thing that people recognize "hey let's not do that anymore." However, it doesn't mean we need to ban the old versions from being watched or existing. They exist because in the past things were different, and it's important to teach children that. There are lessons to learn from many of these movies. Like I said, a few of these I don't believe belong. Cruella & Frollo were villains who it was quite clear their actions were wrong. WFRR was not targeted towards children... as a child in that time I knew that. Alice In Wonderland, well TBH that entire movie is a trip so IDK, it just doesn't feel like it belongs on this list.
Interesting that the Hunchback of Notredam is brought up considering the live action remake we're getting. I wonder what they'll do with this scene. It doesn't feel right to exclude such a powerful and view setting number
I was surprised Disney put that Breaking Bad reference in Zootopia, even if it's a blink-and-you-miss it with their names(I actually missed Doug saying Jessie and Woolter the first time). The rest can be argued that it isn't *that* blue stuff they are making, but still they arguably got away with it. Also they did keep Pleasure Island in the live action Pinnocio. Though it wasn't like it's animated counterpart, they still made the part where they turn into donkey's intense.
Okay. So from now on there will be: 1. No references to drugs, alcohol and smoking. 2. No stereotypes of anyone from anywhere. 3. No sexual innuendos and no sexy women in skimpy outfits. 4. No religious stuff. 5. No villains who do evil things like kidnapping children or killing puppies. BORING!! Kids don't like all that safe stuff. I know because I used to be one. I loved seeing all the risky stuff. Disney is supposed to be fun for the whole family, not just children. I like to put all these things into my stories, whether they're for children or adults. In fact, did anyone notice there was nothing to do with violence, death or any scary imagery? Good. Because I liked those things too.
Song of the South was my very first movie in a theater. I only remember the songs and Uncle Remus. I just thought he was the star of the movie and I LOVED him with that innocent intensity that only children have.
To be honest I can see a remake of Song of the South actually working if Disney focused on the animated parts with the main story being referenced as only an framing device.
hellfire was ranked way too low. it's such a loaded scene with such dark themes that a lot of adults can't even grasp. is it my favorite disney scene of all time? absolutely.
I can't believe that "Hocus Pocus" got away with killing off a child in the first few minutes, plus jokes about Max being a virgin. However, it's possible that many kids wouldn't know what a virgin even was, something that the sequel alludes to.
I love a lot of these things on this list. No, with today's social issues, they wouldn't go well. No, I don't care. They weren't made with malicious intent, at least not entirely (with the benefit of the doubt). I would still keep those things in the movies as they are.
Cruella starring Emma Stone (fantastic movie) kind of takes place in a reality where Cruella doesn’t skin puppies. She in fact adopts Pongo’s parents I think
Watching these moments as a kid: "These moments are good." Re-watching these moments as an adult: "What were the Disney employees smoking when they created these?"
Excellent examples. I am totally against the depictions of racism and offensive stereotypes in Disney animations / movies. However, Disney has replaced those and the others listed by other things that are much more culturally offensive… Regards🇶🇦
Most of these films were morality or films with hard choices in life and some lessons are harder to learn than others. Some were written in a time where they are showing children the history of the world 🗺. Certain themes still exist in this world whether you believe in those themes or not.
You mean like how people are losing their minds over history books teaching kids about slavery? Or that some library books acknowledge the existence of alternative family structures, anything other than heterosexuality, abuse of various kinds, or other "certain themes"? You know, the ones people are trying to ban?
Eh, I was 6 years old when Hunchback came out and even then I LOVED Hell Fire. I had no idea what Frollo was really talking about, I just knew that he liked Esmeralda but didn't like liking her because she was a gypsy. So I had the main idea but not the real idea of how exactly he liked her. But that didn't matter to me, I just thought the music, art, and everything else was phenomenal! And as a writer, is one of the films that inspired me to want to tell stories and how to write a good villain.
If anyone wants to try to change 'Hellfire' They'll have to go through me first. Hell NO! It part of what makes the film so good. As for Aladdin, America would have it banned for having the Genie in drag!
9:13 there wasn’t any stereotypes. They got the idea from Louis Prima’s act in Las Vegas. Even the line of Louie and the monkey and Mowgli came from Prima’s final act where he and his band would go down into the aisles in a line.
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Miss Kitty would be just hunky dory performing in front of the kiddies if the cancel crowd thought she had a Y chromosome. They seem to be all IN with sexualization of kids if it's done in DRAG.
Most of this is just a tempest in a teapot. EVERYTHING makes SOMEONE upset, and if we were to drop everything that might OFFEND someone, we wouldn't HAVE entertainment at ALL.
I DO think it's telling though WHO they're worried about offending. Back in the day when WHITE people had all the power, you had things like this video points out. But NOW racial stereotypes are forbidden UNLESS not IF they're portraying WHITE people in a bad light. They say you can tell who has all the power by who you can and can't make fun of. Looks to ME like the claims of "white supremacy" are no longer valid since it not WHITE people who are forbidden to be made fun of today. Things that make you go hmmmm. 🤔
@@juliebaker6969It is actually about not offending the people, who feel a need to make the most noise.
Some of them are white, some of them aren't.
@@Furienna There's no PC way of saying this so I'm just going to be blunt: The ones that ARE white and claim offense all have some sort of deviancy from the norm, something that affords them "minority cred" as basis to claim offence protection. "You aren't allowed to offend me because I'm.....gay, lesbian, trans, neurodivergent, etc.
But if they ALSO happen to be conservative, ESPECIALLY a conservative CHRISTIAN, that fact overpowers and eliminates ALL possibility of exemption from offense. It's perceived to be socially permissible, and almost EXPECTED to offend a conservative and/or Christian with impunity no matter WHAT other factors are involved, since they're perceived to "DESERVE" it.
I’m sorry, but Cruella Deville skinning puppies is the entire point. She’s a villain. She’s doing something wrong, and that’s clear from the start. At least she’s portrayed as a villain, unlike all the other numerous “good” characters who contribute to animal cruelty.
Yeah I didn't get this one either
I was like that’s the point of the movie she wants to kill dogs to make coats I’ve always knew that😂
But then they made that dumb live action prequel, basically saying “oh well Cruella skinning puppies is a GOOD thing because she WAHMEN and doggies KiLlIeD her Momma”
Cruella DeVil is the villain I love to hate! She is the kind I would protect my dogs from!
I get where you’re coming from but think about it this way. Most of the Disney “villains” would look at her and be like “ look, we’ve all done some evil things in our time but kidnapping and skinning innocent puppies just to make a coat… that’s crazier then anything we’ve ever done!”
I actually love hellfire. It is a powerful piece, and the story that it plays might not be rated G, but it does have a powerful message within
Agreed 🤝
agree out of songs it's one of the best they ever made in my opinion
highly recommend checking out the off-broadway production of this show if you ever get the chance! they changed a bunch and made it less tonally confused, so it's a bit more adult and accurate to the book but still ultimately the same show now with a bunch more awesome songs! I do kind of think if disney's going to force live action adaptations of anything redoing this with the off-broadway version would be a really great choice. though not so good for targeting families of especially young kids so probably it won't happen. (and the new songs wouldn't make them eligible for an oscar so they probably wouldn't bother.)
I love that song!
Same love how it clearly shows the hypocrisy that people who claim that they are religious therefore holier-than-thou
Cruella and Frollo are villains, what do you expect? Plus, they both suffered the consequences for their actions.
So was the Horned King. Not to mention the Coach Man, though he didn't suffer the consequences. Just goes to show that some villains can get away with it, if the good guys are not careful.
Especially Frollo
Back when a villain was allowed to just be an outright villain. They don't need backstories being told because the story is told from the point of view of its heroes. The hero doesn't know the villain's backstop and so it's not relevant to the story being told. I really miss that aspect of storytelling
@@KraftyKeelah So do I.
Genocidal Maniacs who think what they're doing is for the greater good is the WORST kind of villain!!!!!
I'm glad I was a kid in the 80s when classics were allowed. The adult humor flew over my head, but allowed my parents to enjoy the movies with me, There's nothing wrong with having adult innuendos snuck in for adults to enjoy.
Facts
there's still plenty of adult humor in modern disney movies. #15 is literally from 2016, that is NOT "classic disney."
Yea now adults are more aware of Disneys adult jokes
Exactly!
I'm glad I was born during the 80s too. Those were the good old days, back when everything was simple.
The imagery of Esmeralda in the flames and smoke during Hellfire _mesmerized me_ when I was a kid and was a significant element of what originally made me want to be a Disney animator. I was 12 when Hunchback released, so I grew up with the Disney Renaissance films, Don Bluth, and Fox Animation.
Unfortunately Disney started shutting down their traditional animation during my freshman year in art school so I ended up majoring in illustration instead, but after 15+ years in the industry I've never regretted a single second of it because I love what I do. Hunchback is one of the films I owe a personal debt to for that, along with Tarzan, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, and Anastasia.
That is really cool. It’s good that you followed your dreams
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Good movies
Have you seen the mesh of classic and cgi being used for Puss N Boots? It's pretty cool.
Children need to be made aware of the dark realties of the world. That’s what makes movies like The Hunchback of Notre Damme important.
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Agreed.
I totally agree with this.
And Pinocchio with Pleasure Island.
@@dreamguardian8320 Agreed
If the Hunchback of Notre Dame movie triggers people, then reading the actual book will make them spin like a top. The book is way more disturbing and graphic than the movie, and the fact that Disney was able to make the book into a kids movie and still make Frollo incredibly creepy is kind of impressive.
Honestly the Victor Hugo is novel was kinda lame. It was boring, emo, pretentious and WAY too long. While Esmeralda and Quasimodo die, but given that they weren’t that likable in the novel I didn’t feel sad when they died. You want to feel sad about Quasimodo and Esmeralda dying you’re not entitled to it and you have to earn it.
Plus Claude Frollo being a judge who’s a racist religious fanatic is FAR scarier than him being a priest because he has more authority and power which makes him more of a threat. Priests don’t have the authority to arrest or sentence people to death. Judges and Politicians DO.
Says a lot that the movie was still incredibly dark even after undergoing Disneyfication.
Seeing as how much things Disney could show have changed over the years makes me appreciate their older movies even more
Same 😂
Me too.
It’s amazing how soooo many of these things go over our heads as kids, but when we rewatch our classic favorites as adults, we’re all like “How did we not even know about this!?!”
Hey, gotta give the adults something to watch when sitting with the kids XD
...Even if it involves a burlesque-dressed mouse... x.x;;;
Which in my opinion, is really sad.
@@itfigurescomics6704 fair enough, but still
@@itfigurescomics6704 They are family movies, it's what people forget.
I still don't get what's wrrong with those siamese cats 😂 (okay to be honest I always watched it in my own language, they just brag about being cats which equals being better than everyone else - which is a quite correct portrayal of cats tbh)
I love how every one of these classic Disney movies are still loved and cherished to this day! Parents still make sure their kids get to see them and love watching them together.
Mean while, today Disney has changed up the way they make their movies and remakes and have lost $120B, laid-off workers everywhere from parks to animators, and ALL of their latest movies (animated or super-hero) have sank at the box office.
1 Disney hasn’t lost any money 😂2 their movies are the same now as back then for kids with adult jokes to keep the adults happy. 3 You just prefer the sexual assault because it’s with a man an a woman instead of a consensual gay couple. 4 Walt was a Nazi an I guess you support all the hidden propaganda 🤦🏽
I don't think The Hunchback of Notre Dame gets enough credit. It wouldn't be made today, but a great book, film and musical. One of my favorites and the "controversy" makes it less vanilla.
There making a live action
They made several film adaptions of The Hunchback Of Notre Dame. The earliest is a 1920s silent version starring Lon Chaney.
@@melissacooper8724 that was good too
Honestly the Victor Hugo is novel was kinda lame. It was boring, emo, pretentious and WAY too long. While Esmeralda and Quasimodo die, but given that they weren’t that likable in the novel I didn’t feel sad when they died. You want to feel sad about Quasimodo and Esmeralda dying you’re not entitled to it and you have to earn it.
Plus Claude Frollo being a judge who’s a racist religious fanatic is FAR scarier than him being a priest because he has more authority and power which makes him more of a threat. Priests don’t have the authority to arrest or sentence people to death. Judges and Politicians DO.
This is why modern films suck, sometimes we need things that shock us that's what makes these movies so great & why we love them. If we keep worrying about stupid little things it's no longer enjoyable & becomes boring.
Nothing is original anymore
I totally agree with you on that.
Agree. The world ain’t pretty, that’s for sure. If anything seeing more than half that’s on this list made me realize growing up what can, or can not, be tolerated. We were even shown the Hunchback of Notre Dame during a school retreat (a lot of schools in Belgium are Catholic, but open to every religion and non Catholics too) and then agterwards we had to discuss what is wrong with the Church as an institution or how deep hypocrisy and corruption can ruin it. Quite interesting to discuss at 13 years old.
agreed for sure! I am born into the Gen Z generation, but I grew up on old, classic Disney animations/films. I wish things were more like the older stuff, because the more recent films have the same story in the end: adults apologizing to the main character who happens to be a child. Turning Red, Luca, Encanto, etc. and it’s just very unoriginal. it also makes me so annoyed they’re remaking old originals and some of them aren’t even that good. like, I’d love to hear the old stories they told in modern times.
@@IamGoatCow I agree! Hear, hear!
First of all, wow, I had no idea that McQueen's groupies "flashing" their headlights could be considered an innuendo until you mentioned it. I guess you learn something new every day.
Secondly, while I feel that King Louie is fine, I can't and won't defend any of the other stereotypes in Disney's old films. It's amazing how much you could get away with in all those decades ago.
I also watched a documentary on the making of the Jungle Book and King Louie was actually based on Prima. They even based the part of Louie, Mowgli, and another animal in line from Prima’s famous final act of leading his band through the aisles and seats.
I miss old Disney.
Same, The Disney renaissance was a simpler time.
Me 2
Me, too. Once I get a job at Disney, I'll find a way to bring it back.
What the Disney with sexual assault, beastiality, necrophilia? Or Walt being a Nazi an a racist?
Me too. The Disney Renaissance was my childhood.
I will die on the hill that movies like Hunchback of Notre Dame are very important and absolutely should show scenes as dark and serious as it did. My parents showed me Frollo and basically warned little kid me that I should be aware that men like him actually exist, not just with how creepy he was with Esmerelda but the whole persecution and attempted genocide stuff too. I also was the kind of kid who accidentally taught myself about colonialism so while I didn't fully grasp the depth of how serious these things were, they definitely were not lost on me. It's really healthy for kids to get that kind of opportunity to see the world for what it is, sheltering and breeding naivete with not a good move if you don't want your kids taken advantage of. People out there in the world can be abhorrent.
I agree completely. Frollo is a character that reflects so many real life people & I hope if they make a live action version of the animated film, they don’t cut out Hellfire cos it’s too “dark”
@@paigecrossland4289 They better not remove the creepy hair sniffing or the blatant plan to unalive all the "sinners" he saw in the city or any of the other dark themes in the movie. About the only thing i would be ok with changing is when Esmerelda was pole dancing on stage with the guard's spear. Then again, I remember being a kid and just thinking it was funny and I grew up with way more "adult" jokes in my media and it definitely didn't turn me into some morally corrupt asshole. Jokes like that are there for the adults watching with their kids anyways and have always existed in media aimed for children.
Frollo is one of my "favorite" villains precisely because his evil is so real. The racism, lust for power, gaslighting, hubris, hypocrisy, and so on are so very real and scary, unlike most more cartoonish Disney villains.
If there's anything I don't like about Hunchback, it's the message that if you're not physically attractive, no matter how hard you try, nobody will love you back, and the pretty boy always gets the girl. Realistic? Perhaps. But screwed up anyway.
@@GruffyddFO4 Oh I completely agree, Frollo is my "favorite" because be makes my skin crawl. I think he makes my skin crawl more and more the older I get.
@Paige Crossland they've cast Peter Capaldi as frollo and he certainly has the look and the acting chops for it so it will def come down to how much the writers of the film decide to "edit " they'd better not cut hellfire
To be honest I adore Hellfire. Possibly the darkest Disney villain song with a haunting implication. Plus the animation for that scene is impeccable. That whole film is an underrated gem from the Renaissance era imo.
These outdated movies should still be available with disclaimers. We can't learned from the past by cancelling/erasing the past. Parents need to be responsible & have an open communication with their children & not just sit them in front of the TV to let the TV raise them.
Well the classic Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry cartoons have disclaimers on the DVDs.
@@melissacooper8724 same with like, betty boop & others
i think they do that on disney +
Here here!
On Disney+ they do. I watched Peter Pan the other day and there was a disclaimer regarding cultureal insensitivities
Frollo's Hellfire song is and was needed for us the audience to see the true darkness that Frollo had in him. Esmerlda's God Help the Outcasts would not have anywhere the same contrast without it as well. Cruella wanting puppy skins is also needed, these two themes are showing us the villain of the story. Take out the villain and there's no longer a reason for good to fight back, which means that we can't see the truth or the difference between good and evil, and evil continues to win.
It's pretty amazing as an adult to watch The Hunchback Of Notre Dame and to think how dark Disney went with it. Hopefully the live action version will be dark also
If they cast Charles Dance as Frollo it'll work. It's freaking Tywin Lannister! I hope they cast him
@@ellecullen3986damn shame Alan Rickman died. Because he would’ve been perfect for the role.
With the way things are going I don’t think they’ll remake it
What did u think it was a comedy😂
@@brennathecatlover4360 Well I was a kid when I watched it for the first time and I thought the gargoyles where funny then, not so much now
The idea that donkeys are often miss treated in real life because they are seen as symbol of multiple meanings. Slavery, beasts of burden, stupid, stubborn, servile, and even abuse. The mythological with it being a reincarnation with vast meanings. It feels like a hat on a hat in Pinocchio
To be fair: Who framed Roger Rabbit wasn't done by Disney; it was an independently done with permissions to use both Disney and WB characters with specific contracts to be able to use those characters.
Exactly
Disney owned touchstone pictures. They made it.
@@heatherpayne1995 movie was co-produced by Amblin and Touchstone then distributed by Touchstone so both, yes and no
I never thought WFRR was ever directed at kids, but rather more aimed at older teens/adults who still loved animation, hence the adult themes in the entire movie (such as a baby who smokes and somewhat "gruesome" deaths for Judge Doom & the weasles. Definitely not kid-friendly portrayal of death).
Holy shit that puts RK Maroon’s comment about Dumbo and the cast of Fantasia being on loan from Disney in a whole new meta perspective I never thought about before.
The 1980s created a tougher personality, us latch key kids had to deal with rusty playgrounds, scorching hot metal slides, cycling outside until the street lights came on. Kids movies with adult themes were nothing.
I kinda agree, Some of the stuff in these particular Disney classics are better off left where they are. Because let's face it no matter what today's society is always gonna find scenes like these to be inappropriate, offensive or racist. And at this point it's ridiculous.
Its the bubble wrap i swear 😅
I would love to make something that is basically a middle finger to society. Or at least see one.
That’s why canceled culture exist
That’s what comes from a culture trying to show moral superiority without actually making more improvements.
just like family therapy… if you harp on the past…. your are wasting emotional energy on making a better future.
No, why do people not realize it was part of the time and you just have to remember that. Even watching it now wouldn't be offensive. I don't understand why people are so sensitive. Also, don't forget they are just showing the truth or how to deal with difficult subjects.
how are any of these okay to do today
@@jimbo9208 why not? Have you seen what they are putting out now? It's no different.
@@pupinskimcgee yes it is different tell how it not
@@pupinskimcgee That little black doll from Santa's Workshop is okay? That's... an interesting take.
@KrisCynical why not? Don't take things so seriously. I'm not saying anything is okay. It was just part of the time is all I'm saying and even now they talk like that. They still talk that way and it's okay.
Good or bad these are things that represent the mindset people have every decade. They are part of the movie history. It is good to have these on the movies in order to avoid making the same mistakes again and understanding how wrong was our mindset
The Great Mouse Detective is *so* underrated. I love that movie
You know why they wouldn’t work today? It’s because people are super sensitive over the smallest things. It’s a movie people don’t take it too seriously. Unless it’s intentionally promoting something
Killing Bambi's mother. Even though it happens off screen I can just hear the mom groups now complaining about their "traumatized" children.
True they would say it
So true
A number of years ago, a neighbor in her 80s said she had never been able to watch Bambi because she heard of that and it still made her cry.
Not gonna lie. It did something to me as a kid 😂 I was staying awake, crying for Bambi. But then my mother came to teach me about such events in life rather than shield me from it like they do today
As a parent who took 3 4?5 yo little girls to see the Lion King at the movies. Their reaction and the subsequent several minutes soothing them after Scar kills Mufasa is never going to leave me. Bambie wasn't an issue for me, but if you want to talk mental scars we can talk about Watership Down or the original animated Hobbit (70s).
Disney movies were darker than we give them credit for, and don't realise the innuendos or dark content until we're much older.
I really wish they stayed that way. Screw the woke parents!
Classic Disney was the best
Yeah.
When wokeness wasn’t a requirement
@@mariobrony1396 you sound like someone who thinks of "classic disney" as the big bad wolf's original costume.
@@dietotaku I disapprove of that, but now I feel that every film nowadays, has to be put under a political microscope with some people desperate at any chance to find something wrong with it
You said it.
"Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was a Touchstone Pictures movie. Touchstone Pictures was created to release content for adult and mature teens.
I never thought that Aladdin was thrown out the window because he "couldn't afford their services" but rather simply because he was known as a criminal who steals. The lyrics very plainly say:
"Oh, it's sad, Aladdin's hit the bottom
He's become a one-man rise in crime
I'd blame parents, 'cept he hasn't got 'em
Gotta eat to live, gotta steal to eat
Tell you all about it when I got the time"
Who would want a known criminal in their establishment? THAT is why he was thrown out.
I miss classic old 2D cartoons from Disney.
Same here.
It was art.
Me too. I miss it a lot.
Don't we all😢
It was an art form and took years to make each film. I’m not saying computer animators aren’t skilled, but there’s definitely something lacking these days.
There's also the concubine scene in Mulan. I was watching it with kids I was babysitting and when they dressed up as concubines then knocked out the guards, I was thinking "oh. good thing this goes over the kids heads, though I guess it's historically accurate, the emperor would've had concubines" but I might've made some sort of reaction and the youngest noticed or this inquisitive child just caught a word he didn't know (that happened a lot). Anyways the youngest child turned to me and went "what's a concubine?" I said "they are special female servants." But of course he wanted to know how they were special and what they did. That's when I said we were missing the movie and if he wanted to know more to ask his parents later.
When their parents got home I gave them a heads up, because we all knew this child didn't let a topic drop for long and that way they had a chance to prepare what they wanted to say.
I was afraid that my nine-year-old niece would ask questions about the aunt/nephew storyline in Bruno's telenovela when I watched "Encanto" with her.
But it must have gone over her head, because she didn't ask anything.
"We think the execution of the Pleasure Island scene would definitely be softened to fit today's sensibilities."
That's a funny way of mentioning the remake without mentioning the remake. Root beer, anyone?
Hellfire is indeed a Disney's masterpiece!
It was almost as good as "In the Dark of the Night." From Anastasia.
@@dreamguardian8320 Nah Hellfire is unmatched
The "Pleasure Island" scene from Pinocchio still freaks me out!!!!!
same! haven’t been able to watch the movie since i was a child
When you wish upon a star , is a version of Pinocchio where the boys who were turned into donkeys get the magic reversed, Returning them to their human bodies
There is a fab theory that donkey was one of those boys from pleasure Island. Also agree
@@brookelynnenewcomer943 Do you mean Donkey from the Shrek movies?
@@melissacooper8724 yes
Hellfire gets cancelled I'm rioting.
Hellfire is the perfect villian song and nothing will convince me otherwise.
2:32 We can be pretty sure actually that if something made it into a Disney cartoon, most people at the time thought that it was okay.
Controversial or not, 19 of those films made my childhood worth living, none of the less :)
The problem with The Hunchback of Notre Dame is that the movie isn't for kids, or at least the kids don't understand the real meaning of the movie. And that's why it seems innapropiet or that It wouldn't work today. For me, it's one of the best diney movies. And what It makes good in part it's thanks tho the creepy villain that is Frollo. He's so scary because he's so real, or his behaviour can be from someone from today
Disney
i agree just because it's disney doesn't mean it's a kids movie and yeah as a kid i didn't understand the story like the song hellfire, i thought frollo didn't like esmerelda for her dancing i didn't know he was lusting for her, hell i didn't know what lusting was
Pinocchio was a horror film on pleasure island. Sadly that's a reality for some kids. I think stuff like that do happen to bad kids but differently.
I don't think the Hunchback would work without Hellfire, besides parents need entertainment too, or they might as well be tortured like when they had to watch Barney.
lol I feel bad for putting my mom thru barney
Kaa the snake from Jungle Book hypnotizing, touching and trying to eat a little boy was also pretty weird
People need to stop worrying about if they’re offending people or not and cancel culture. They should take a chance do what they want. I remember when I was a kid in the 90’s there were tv shows, movies and video games people wanted taken off the air and pulled from stores but most of the time it didn’t happen because The film industry and video game companies didn’t let a few hundred thousand people bully them unlike today.
I remember shows like Jerry Springer, WWE Raw and other shows were considered immoral by parental watch groups such as Parents Television Council and they tried to get the FTC to take those shows off the air but WWE as well as other controversial shows during that type still did some of the most controversial things you could do back then. My point is unless you’re spreading hatred towards a particular group, you should be able to say or do anything because we have the first amendment which is freedom of speech. It’s like we have gone back to the 1950’s with how everyone gets offended by everything. If you don’t like something change the channel or turn it off.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is a film that can be used as a teaching moment that with adolescents and women. Frollo is eventually undone by the same woman who tempts him. Her good natured acceptance of the hunchback shows she's heroic.
Let me rephrase that for you: '20 things "modern" Disney won't allow today.'
They will still work, because that is how good storytelling works. Sadly something the writers of today never learned how...
TL;DR: Roger Rabbit, Zootopia and Rescuers aren't valid entries in this list, sorry. Roger Rabbit isn't a kids movie, it was designed for ADULTS who grew up with these characters, 40/50 and up. Zootopia is WAY too recent for "Wouldn't fly today", IT IS TODAY! And Rescuers was an Easter Egg snuck in, not a planned, accepted inclusion. It wouldn't have been authorized back then any more than now.
Pinocchio was the scariest film I watched as a kid and I’m still scarred
Nah Zootopia’s reference to Breaking Bad is absolute GOLD! I don’t see that being a problem today
I almost choked on my drink when I saw that in the theater cause it was so unexpected. I love this scene xD
I'm glad I grew up in the 80s and 90s. Love all these movies. People could laugh at stuff back then and not get offended
The 2000s were great too dude
Yeah I miss the days when pedophilia and racism was not offensive
I feel like some of these aren’t as bad as she says because young children wouldn’t understand what was wrong with them
People need to lighten up! I grew up with all of these films and never thought less of others,no matter their race, color, or creed. We’ve become SO politically correct as to have no joy or humor for fear of upsetting some who have no sense of perspective or are so insecure in themselves that they have become haters and Karen’s. How truly pathetic and sad. No wonder we’ve lost the trust and respect of the rest of the world!
My mom legitimately had a friend that said that her boyfriend was not allowed to see "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" because of how sexy Jessica Rabbit is.
wtf
Your mom's friend is crazy.
I miss the old Disney from my childhood. Back then, Disney was never afraid to touch on serious issues for kids to learn. Nowadays, everybody is about being “woke.” It’s gotten so bad that I expect any day now that all you would need to get into school is a paper and pencil!
woke name 5 Disney things that are woke
Y'all have bastardized woke to the point it's lost all meaning. At this point people bitch about media being "woke" if it acknowledges the existence of anything other than straight white males. 🙄
Disney is still touching on serious issues. They're just issues you don't like because they're "woke" and thus bad or grooming or whatever other nonsense y'all are on about now.
@@jimbo9208 Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, Cruella, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, Zombies, Lighthear etc. I can go on and on!
Woke just means it is not about white, straight people. Modern Disney goes plenty dark, just in different ways.
@@ConnorMiller417 how are theuy woke
The belly dancers from Friend Like Me and Prince Ali,as well as Jasmine's red outfit was left out of the live action Aladdin remake.
That’s why I do like the live action especially cos instead of him running into a “house of ill repute” he runs into what I think is a woman’s reading group or classroom
That pleasure island sequence was traumatizing
At least it tried to show that 2D animation is not just for kids, but for people of all ages.
For how controversial Song of the South really is, the one good thing that came out of it was the famous song Zip-A-Dee Doo-Da. You must admit that that song is really catchy and gives you nothing but good vibes all throughout
I prefer it in Jackson 5's version though.
I remember that when they did an animated series of 101 Dalmatians they toned Cruella down to where she no longer wanted to kill the puppies. Instead, she schemes to covet the Dearly farm. I liked the film version of Cruella better because she is more intimidating than her TV counterpart.
Hellfire will always be relevant. Frollo is & will always be the scariest villain Disney has ever created. The kind of men that Frollo was written after have always & will always exist, using their position of authority or even religious influence to hold power over people, or even worse claim their actions are holy.
My favorite one on this list is “Let Me Be Good To You” (even if it would either be toned down, or not allowed at all in a remake), and the one I hate the most is “The Conveyor Belt Doll”.
It took up until just now for me to realize just what was going on with the lab in Zootopia.
The Pleasure Island from Pinocchio was just disturbing.
MY issue with Fantasia was actually the Rite of Spring and Night on Bald Mountain scenes. I was so traumatized by that movie because of those scenes I NEVER watched it again!
Alice in wonderland and wizard of Oz were straight up Trips when I was a kid.
those are some of my faves lol
NGL. I'm mad that these things won't work today. Some things should stay as is IMO.
My mom didn't want us watching Hunchback when I was a kid after we watched it once. Shes not religious, but thought the Judge singing about how horny he was for Esmeralda and being an abusive POS was disgusting. Honestly, I don't blame her, hes pretty gross. But I love that movie. The music is beautiful.
Don’t think Frollo is disgusting. He makes the movie
@@kirak1561He can be disgusting anyway.
Through a child's lenses he is not horny but deeply in love with her. I watched as a child myself and found it perfectly suitable for the overall movie tone.
Some people are seeing porn where there are only human passions that are not in any means a moral deviation for anyone minimally reasonable and objective.
It is equally prudish and mediocre to sugar-coat our reality to the point of creating dull and souless animations that disconnect children from reality and lead them to a puritanistic and meaningless level of distortion of the world.
@@LuxClassical91 ok I'll travel back in time and let my mom know your opinion. Maybe she'll let past us watch it.
@@BewitchCraftYour mom is free to do whatever she thinks is better for you. I just don't agree with her.
Called it, I knew Song of the South would be number 1, what's crazy is that I remember watching the "Zip a Dee Do Dah" musical number in the Disney Store, did I dream it or do other people remember that?
As for the other movies on the list, the ones that I remember most are Jessica Rabbit and The Great Mouse Detective, I also saw The Hunchback of Notre Dame when it came out in Theaters (And to think my dad's a priest, I wonder if he knew this was going to happen, but I also think he wanted me to learn about Zealotry).
The Great Mouse Detective was far from lost on me, hell, I even thought the song went "Take off all my clothes" not "Take off all my blues"...Oops...though then again, since her outfit is mostly blue....also, when Dawson lifted his eyepatch and went "oooh! Bravo!...Bravo!" I thought he was seeing her naked..again, oops...
Jessica Rabbit...eh, that one did go over my head, when she said the line "You don't know how hard it is being a woman, looking the way I do..." a four year old me was like "Looking? Looking at what? What's she looking at?"
Aladdin...whew, glad I wasn't alone when it comes to that one going over my head, I thought they were just a group of sisters hanging out in their house and that lady was their housekeeper or babysitter or something.
Yep. I loved those scenes too. But I still have never seen Song of the South.
@@egyptwns89_26 You saw the song in the Disney Store?
I thought the same thing about Aladdin, but I thought the lady was their mother.
@@HanakoFairhall No.
@@egyptwns89_26 Hmm, maybe it was something I dreamed then ehe
Many of the adult jokes and scenes in films were for the adults who had to suffer through watching films with their children.
I never thought ANY of these were racist; but then again, I never heard of Song Of The South. The rest, I was just a little kid LOL
So beautiful! Thank you!
It's a shame that some of the best aspects of disney movies end up being things that wouldn't work in a disney movie today
Yeah like the weird sexual things and pedophilia and beastiality
Hell, Miss Piggy's unwanted advances towards Kermit wouldn't be allowed.
I agree that hellfire was very adult content. Being a kind in the 90's, I couldn't have made it out. With today's society, I doubt they would've executed Hunchback the same way.
So, I know this list is "things that wouldn't work today..." But from reading these comments here is my rant. People evolve. We learn, as a society, that certain things are not good. We (well some of us, some are still stuck in the 1700s, I'm afraid) learn to treat others with respect. Sure, today *some* of the things on this list (as there are a few I don't believe belong) would be changed if the same movie was made today. We see that with remakes... Peter Pan for example, and the portrayal of indigenous people. Which is a GOOD thing that people recognize "hey let's not do that anymore." However, it doesn't mean we need to ban the old versions from being watched or existing. They exist because in the past things were different, and it's important to teach children that. There are lessons to learn from many of these movies.
Like I said, a few of these I don't believe belong. Cruella & Frollo were villains who it was quite clear their actions were wrong. WFRR was not targeted towards children... as a child in that time I knew that. Alice In Wonderland, well TBH that entire movie is a trip so IDK, it just doesn't feel like it belongs on this list.
Interesting that the Hunchback of Notredam is brought up considering the live action remake we're getting. I wonder what they'll do with this scene. It doesn't feel right to exclude such a powerful and view setting number
I was surprised Disney put that Breaking Bad reference in Zootopia, even if it's a blink-and-you-miss it with their names(I actually missed Doug saying Jessie and Woolter the first time). The rest can be argued that it isn't *that* blue stuff they are making, but still they arguably got away with it.
Also they did keep Pleasure Island in the live action Pinnocio. Though it wasn't like it's animated counterpart, they still made the part where they turn into donkey's intense.
Okay. So from now on there will be:
1. No references to drugs, alcohol and smoking.
2. No stereotypes of anyone from anywhere.
3. No sexual innuendos and no sexy women in skimpy outfits.
4. No religious stuff.
5. No villains who do evil things like kidnapping children or killing puppies.
BORING!!
Kids don't like all that safe stuff. I know because I used to be one. I loved seeing all the risky stuff. Disney is supposed to be fun for the whole family, not just children. I like to put all these things into my stories, whether they're for children or adults.
In fact, did anyone notice there was nothing to do with violence, death or any scary imagery? Good. Because I liked those things too.
I feel the same way!
Song of the South was my very first movie in a theater. I only remember the songs and Uncle Remus. I just thought he was the star of the movie and I LOVED him with that innocent intensity that only children have.
To be honest I can see a remake of Song of the South actually working if Disney focused on the animated parts with the main story being referenced as only an framing device.
@@georgeray1906 to me as a kid, the animated parts were the main story. And Uncle Remus was a storyteller and trusted adult.
hellfire was ranked way too low. it's such a loaded scene with such dark themes that a lot of adults can't even grasp. is it my favorite disney scene of all time? absolutely.
As soon as I saw the segment on Pinnochio my first thought was "did they not see the live action film?"
Same!!!
No one liked the live action version much, so I doubt it.
I can't believe that "Hocus Pocus" got away with killing off a child in the first few minutes, plus jokes about Max being a virgin. However, it's possible that many kids wouldn't know what a virgin even was, something that the sequel alludes to.
I didn't get the bus driver joke about children for a long time
What if they would say "virgin" in modern kids movies?
I knew what a virgin was.
I love a lot of these things on this list. No, with today's social issues, they wouldn't go well. No, I don't care. They weren't made with malicious intent, at least not entirely (with the benefit of the doubt). I would still keep those things in the movies as they are.
Amen
I’d say Pinocchio drinking and smoking . Cause even looking back at it now I’m surprised that went over our heads
It took me years to realize that there was drinking in Dumbo hence the pink elephants.
It didn’t go over our heads at all. It was acceptable at that time. You could smoke everywhere…even the hospital!
@@emtgirl777 which seems ridiculous now
@@littlesongbird1 that pink elephants scene scared tf outta me
8:54 This scene scared me as a kid and it pretty much the same in last year’s live action movie.
Love all the older stuff im not offended by anything so it doesn't worry me great list though guys
Cruella starring Emma Stone (fantastic movie) kind of takes place in a reality where Cruella doesn’t skin puppies. She in fact adopts Pongo’s parents I think
A little surprised the historical inaccuracies in Pocahontas weren’t mentioned at all
Watching these moments as a kid: "These moments are good."
Re-watching these moments as an adult: "What were the Disney employees smoking when they created these?"
I love the song hell fire. It’s realistic.
Don't worry folks Disney wouldn't dare put these in the animated movies they are too busy releasing live action remakes no one asked for
Not to mention that in zootopia the other two Rams names are Walter and Jesse
Excellent examples. I am totally against the depictions of racism and offensive stereotypes in Disney animations / movies. However, Disney has replaced those and the others listed by other things that are much more culturally offensive… Regards🇶🇦
The shadow on the wall of Lampwick turning into a donkey is what disturbed me the most about the whole Pleasure Island scene
At least it tried to show that 2D animation is not just for kids, but for people of all ages.
Most of these films were morality or films with hard choices in life and some lessons are harder to learn than others. Some were written in a time where they are showing children the history of the world 🗺. Certain themes still exist in this world whether you believe in those themes or not.
You mean like how people are losing their minds over history books teaching kids about slavery? Or that some library books acknowledge the existence of alternative family structures, anything other than heterosexuality, abuse of various kinds, or other "certain themes"? You know, the ones people are trying to ban?
Song of the South was really morality ? Teaching our child that slavery is good for the both of us ???
Eh, I was 6 years old when Hunchback came out and even then I LOVED Hell Fire. I had no idea what Frollo was really talking about, I just knew that he liked Esmeralda but didn't like liking her because she was a gypsy. So I had the main idea but not the real idea of how exactly he liked her. But that didn't matter to me, I just thought the music, art, and everything else was phenomenal! And as a writer, is one of the films that inspired me to want to tell stories and how to write a good villain.
If anyone wants to try to change 'Hellfire' They'll have to go through me first. Hell NO! It part of what makes the film so good. As for Aladdin, America would have it banned for having the Genie in drag!
9:13 there wasn’t any stereotypes. They got the idea from Louis Prima’s act in Las Vegas. Even the line of Louie and the monkey and Mowgli came from Prima’s final act where he and his band would go down into the aisles in a line.
And yet, Disney + had to put a disclaimer on that movie because of people's ignorance. 😒
3:56 - IIRC, Frollo was actually a priest in the original novel. I guess that was definitely taking it too far for Disney.
What about the baby oysters being eaten in Alice in Wonderland?
oh that was disturbing