Tbh if he beats an ilia and also gets a double belt, there is no argument you’d have to be a nostalgic based pip squeak to think anyone has a better quality resume then this guy
@@miltongonzalez6304 that test was vacated though. If you want to approach PEDs with no context, then yeah he popped. But if we choose to use our brains there’s no comparison to Jones actually cheating.
Quality of wins = did you beat X fighter before Lucas started watching mma 4 years ago. If you beat Renan Barao when he was #3 p4p that win means nothing cause Lucas never saw it so it basically didn't happen. If you beat Umar, a dude who has one ranked win, you are now the GOAT of your weightclass and one win away from surpassing Jon Jones
Tsarukyan looks fierce, especially as he has risen through the ranks and has a vendetta against Islam. Quite possibly the fight of the year, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tsarukyan shuts down Islam. Hope that Islam will WIN
this is in response to Bedtime saying Merab would still be behind Aljo in the BW GOAT convo with a win, no doubt. I'm with you, beat the same guys as Aljo way more dominantly, and didnt get KOD by OMalley or Moraes You forgot to mention his title defences had 2 split decisions. The Yan rematch were he actually won the title not from a dq was still a split decision, so was the Cejudo fight.
Lucas make a vid about the best pfp number one fighters of all time. How good they were when they were pfp number one, like a top 5 ranking or top 10. Thanks great video.
I agree, Merab's wins are actually better. Even though I don't think you can look back at the lighter guys from WEC the same way we look back at the middleweights etc of that era. There was no lighter man division in the UFC, and all of those smaller guys in WEC were levels above the average bigger guys in the ufc at that time. They were competent in scrambles, high level striking and wrestling/defence.
Lucas always calling whoever the current champ is the GOAT, there’s still debate if Merab beat Umar, Yan was coming off multiple loses when Merab beat him, Umar has 1 top ranked win, Moraes was on the decline, this would be his first title defence, he doesn’t have many finishes, this is the first time he’s fighting a good grappler in a while, his wins could end up ageing like milk, there’s still debate about it
"Petr Yan comming off multiple losses" he lost a 48-47 decision to Aljo and then arguably beating O'Malley. I personally have scored that fight for him but I get it that someone could score it for Sean. With that being said he lost to elite levels of competition and those fights were really close. We also can see that he wasn't washed in any way since he went on to get a win streak against Song Yadong and Figgy. So that makes Merab's Yan win really impressive especially since he was the only one to beat him in a dominant fashion. Everyone else had a really really close fight with him. Altough Umar only beat Sandhagen still that's an extremely good win especially when he dominated him. He showcased his skillset there and that he is a stylistic nightmare for Merab, since he is a great grappler and also can keep him at the distance with kicks. So just this makes this win great. And also even if Umar loses to Merab, I believe that Umar will be a champ at some point since he's so young and talented so this win will probably age like wine. Also saying that Merab didn't fight a good grappler in a while is insane. In his last fight he beat Cejudo who is an olympian. And yeah it's faur that wrestling in MMA is different, but still he's a great grappler. Yan was also a really good grappler, we could even see that in the Figgy fight when Yan was taking him down and controlling him at times.
Too be the goat you need to be able finish or look too finishing at any point of the fight because finishing the is what makes you different from everyone
Makhachev definitely. With Merab, can you call someone the goat of their weight class if they only have one title defense(and thats if he beats Umar which he's an underdog against)
Very good criterias. Dana White is probably doing something similar with Meta for the upcoming ranking system (I am not kidding). I am a data scientist and was wondering which variables they should use, and pick up to something similar. Another one could be time inside the cage.
"Its way easier to get a title fight and get the title back now then the UFC before..." -Kai Asakura getting a title shot in his first ever UFC fight -Michael Chandler getting a title shot after 1 win in the UFC against Dan Hooker -Izzy getting a title shot without a single win after his loss to Strickland -Strickland getting a title shot after a split decision win against Costa and sitting out until he was offered a title fight -Poirier getting a title shot for just beating a 12th ranked BSD -#8 ranked Khalil Rountree gets a title shot with his best win being Anthony Smith -#8 ranked Stipe gets a title shots despite not fighting for 3.5 years and getting flatlined in his last fight Its harder for some like Islam and Merab to finally get title shots, but it definitely isn't harder for most folks to title shots or title rematches. UFC has always been extremely inconsistent with giving out title fights.
the best age of mma is right now, everyone in this age (merab, yan, O’Malley) is 1-2 wins away from goat status because there is such a small margin between them. It seems weird but just be realistic/non biased and it actually makes sense
@ I think if merab beats Umar & gets one more win he’s cemented as the bantamweight goat but I don’t think one more win cements him as the goat because bantamweight since Aljo has had arguments over who’s the goat of the division. We need someone who’s a clear outlier to clear the arguments
@@CorvoAttano21Moraes is mid, Aldo has beat no one good in the last 5 years and Cejudo since the retirement hasn’t been nearly as good as he used to be
Crazy hearing you talk up Merab’s win oven an over-the-hill Cejudo while discounting Cruz’s win over DJ because he was young lol. You talk from a perspective of someone who has only been watching MMA for 2-3 years
There's a vast difference between a crafty vet and a tadpole. Henry had been a double champ and won a gold medal in the fuckin Olympics. DJ had two (2) (dos) fights in the ufc when he fought cruz. You can't tell me that that version of Dj was anywhere near his peak. Also DJ is a shrimp and was even smaller then. There's a clear difference. You talk like someone who's been watching for 6 months
I can explain that to you brother! The fall of Constantinople led Mehmet II to conquer the final remains of the Roman Empire in 1453 CE. This 2000 year old Empire was taken away just like that, and the Ottoman Empire spreading led to the rise of Islam. This rise of Islam has led to many Muslim fighters being at the top of sports today including MMA, such as Islam, Belal and very soon Umar. Now how does this relate to Holloway KOing Justin? Well Gaethje didn’t want to take too much time off after KOing Dustin back at 291, so he offered to fight Holloway for the BMF in hopes that if he’d win so he could fight Islam right after. Now Justin is Mexican-German from his Mother and Father respectively, and the Germans have always needed to conquer someone smaller first to take on the world. Justin was hoping that Holloway would be like his 1939 Poland, where he could start his WW2 conquest of taking down world class fighters with the Blessed. This conquest by Justin would ideally end with defeating a Muslim champion/conquerer such as Islam Machachev. The issue is that Holloway being Hawaiian means he’s American, so this revolve of Justin to overthrow their divisions Muslim champion led him to miss the historical facts on the United States helping the West defeat Germany back in WW2. The American pride of fighters can KO any threat their way even at the last second such as Holloway did to Justin, as the September 11th attacks have only strengthened our resolve as Americans to fight back against the spread of Terrorism in the name of Islam. We can never forget the events of 9-11 or Fall of Constantinople no matter how powerful our Muslim adversaries become, and this is what inevitably led to Holloway KOing Justin. Your last question can easily be answered by the fact that Volk having three wins over Holloway means anything that the Blessed does Blesses Volks legacy as well. My apologies for the length, but I hope this helped!!
You mention Jose Aldos age whenever you reference how old he was during a fight, like saying he was "only" 35 during whatever fight he was in. Hes already got a lot of miles on him for someone at 35, since hes been fighting at the age 16-17. Hes been fighting for over 20 years. Thats something to take into consideration.
Oh just stop it you stay chomping at the bit to make every fighter of this generation to be in top 15 or GOAT status. Merab has two good wins O’Malley and Yan and the O’Malley fight was way closer than people like to give it bc it’s just cool to shit on O’Malley. Anyway he has a 2-1 decision against a declining CCC beat moraes who was on a 3 fight losing streak and had a shit performance against Aldo in 22 Pro fights he has 5 finishes and TWO in the UFC Cruz beating Faber, Tj, “mighty mouse” coming back not in his prime and still beating Munhoz is better than merab resume not to mention Aljo?? CCC, “Tj” , Yan, Sandhagen and then there is Yan who has beat aljo, Aldo, Cory, Song Yadong, Figgy and some like to say O’Malley. Those are all better wins than merab resume JUST STOP IT YOU CANT FORCE IT… And you are already contradicting yourself at 13:23 you said he’s the bw goat and then at 19:53 you say your not saying he’s the bw goat
Lucas doesn’t care about the actual fight. He’s only interested in the goat convo 🔥
That’s because Lucas is a goat himself. #GOATTALK
God bless him
where does carlos prates fit into this
certified flukas glazy classic
Yea this a classic flukas glazy and not in a good way
Didn’t he put Islam in the top 3 and Ilia top 5 all time?
@@Small_child_punterIslam definitely will be
@@reemraw9956 I believe they both are destined to be. Theyre already the most skilled fighters weve ever seen.
@@Small_child_punter no
Lucas Tracy when a fighter gets a great win - "I think he is a top 5 fighter of all time you guys."
Just volk, Ilia, and Islam which there 100% is a strong argument for each of them
Lucas when any of Volk's past opponents get a win - "all this does is raise Volkanovski on the GOAT list."
how? He put Islam top 5 after his 3rd defense.
@lapugs382 Benoit St Denis KO'd Matt Frevola and Lucas said he was the next Marcus Aurelius
@@backwardsbrain2255that’s actually funny asf 😭
Good vidao, Lucy.
Keep up.
-Chamala
Chama 2028
Great account lol
come back, chamala.
What the fuck
chamala 2016
lighter man skill glaze starts: 00:00
lighter man skill glaze ends: 30:04
How do you know
Lucas think Pantoja would flatline Aspinall
@@KingIvanGilpeople forget man.
@@KingIvanGil ofc he would, its 6x lighterman skill, pantoja would mog aspinal via crafty foot distancing
@@KingIvanGilon paper pantoja mauls him
Saying Islam should fight Neil Duplessis next isn’t something I agree with but interesting take Lucas
atleast it makes more sense than fighting david adesanya for the featherweight belt
0:00 tuco takkos glazing starts
30:04 tuco takkos glazing ends
This is Lucas Tracy not bedtime lil bro
😐
Islam really does have GOAT potential
With "no" eyepokes, peds, cheating, and ducking 🦆 history
He was tested positive once for peds though. Not hating just clarifying.
Tbh if he beats an ilia and also gets a double belt, there is no argument you’d have to be a nostalgic based pip squeak to think anyone has a better quality resume then this guy
@@miltongonzalez6304 that test was vacated though. If you want to approach PEDs with no context, then yeah he popped. But if we choose to use our brains there’s no comparison to Jones actually cheating.
Its really Ilia vs Islam that decides it
Quality of wins = did you beat X fighter before Lucas started watching mma 4 years ago. If you beat Renan Barao when he was #3 p4p that win means nothing cause Lucas never saw it so it basically didn't happen. If you beat Umar, a dude who has one ranked win, you are now the GOAT of your weightclass and one win away from surpassing Jon Jones
Well said lol. Lucas Glazy
Shhh... Nobody cares 🤫🤫🤫 shiuut joe assss
Facts
Oldhead over here. Accept that the UFC used to be full of bums and Barao wouldn't have done shit in the modern era
Renan aged horribly
Lil bro crowns new GOATs every month, with every PPV.
This is a Flukas take I actually agree with wtf
thank god someone else says it
Woah Lucas
I don’t know if I agree with your take on pantoja having the lighter man skill to submit Alex pereira like a little pip squeak r1
Interview where 🤔
Fr
Flukas tweakin’ off a blue knot with this video, but I vibe with it. Must be something in that NYC water!!
Very smart video, good work Lukas, thanks
An old man knocked on my door, he asked if i had seen a 5'5 receding white stud with a front cap on
bro looks like a trucker from sandy shores
Great video! I can tell you worked hard on this one!
30 minute video and not once did he even think to mention Schmitty... the meme is still MASSIVE!!
Can we get a dark mode version of these slides bruh? This shit is killing me at night lmao.
Nobody cares. The real question is where they rank on the big meaty hooks tier list.
Great vid
To Lucas if you go on a 2 fight win streak you're a goat
Tsarukyan looks fierce, especially as he has risen through the ranks and has a vendetta against Islam. Quite possibly the fight of the year, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tsarukyan shuts down Islam. Hope that Islam will WIN
this is in response to Bedtime saying Merab would still be behind Aljo in the BW GOAT convo with a win, no doubt. I'm with you, beat the same guys as Aljo way more dominantly, and didnt get KOD by OMalley or Moraes
You forgot to mention his title defences had 2 split decisions. The Yan rematch were he actually won the title not from a dq was still a split decision, so was the Cejudo fight.
the goat finally posted again 🙌🏾🍻
Some insane effort went into this video, respect lucas OHHH YEAHHH
Ooooohhhh yeeeaaaaahhhhh
Flukas could surpass Stewru if only he was more active and kept live streaming
Close to GOAT status😢
bro respects his idol so much he doesn't wanna surpass him lol
7:27 I love how we get fast and loose with someone being a champ for having the interim.
Great vid, I agree with this opinion
The glaze is crazyyy 😭 🙏🏽
Bro is locked in for this one, i agree
Lucas make a vid about the best pfp number one fighters of all time. How good they were when they were pfp number one, like a top 5 ranking or top 10. Thanks great video.
"bu-bu- but what about title defences" - ☝️🤓
Flukas Glizzy back with another classic
underrated video
Lucas is 1 video away from falling off. No streams, no Volk interview, content is mid now. Cmon Lucas let’s go
better than guru
yet you're still here and will continue to be
Life ain’t always peaches and creamville.
People forget man, this guy flukas glazey is an absolute crafty vet man
Look guys were gonna get another goat list video by the end of the week 🎉
Flukas Tracy is one Chimp vs human video away from becoming the MMA youtube GOAT💯
I agree, Merab's wins are actually better. Even though I don't think you can look back at the lighter guys from WEC the same way we look back at the middleweights etc of that era. There was no lighter man division in the UFC, and all of those smaller guys in WEC were levels above the average bigger guys in the ufc at that time. They were competent in scrambles, high level striking and wrestling/defence.
You should do a top 15 all-time video based on eye test and skill. Would be interesting to see where guys like Petr land in that conversation.
Damn. I’m glad somebody is still lucid. Making sense Lucas.
Khabib has always said ;
"Islam is better than I was "...
Merab and still insh’Allah ☝🏻
Bishmillah
Start 2025 off with live streaming the first PPV of the year 💪🏽
Guru disappeared glad to see someone is posting
30 minutes video just got out of work boutta spark this j and enjoy
19:09 You tell them my brotha!! Merab is GOATED 🗿😤
Lucas smoked a pack of peaches n creamville OG before posting this and I’m all here for it.
your right about non championship wins solidifying merab as the BW goat, hes beaten the divisions best
I just thought about Porrier and Topuria fighting and it would be great, Boxing heavy fights are always awesome.
Lucas always calling whoever the current champ is the GOAT, there’s still debate if Merab beat Umar, Yan was coming off multiple loses when Merab beat him, Umar has 1 top ranked win, Moraes was on the decline, this would be his first title defence, he doesn’t have many finishes, this is the first time he’s fighting a good grappler in a while, his wins could end up ageing like milk, there’s still debate about it
"Petr Yan comming off multiple losses" he lost a 48-47 decision to Aljo and then arguably beating O'Malley. I personally have scored that fight for him but I get it that someone could score it for Sean. With that being said he lost to elite levels of competition and those fights were really close. We also can see that he wasn't washed in any way since he went on to get a win streak against Song Yadong and Figgy. So that makes Merab's Yan win really impressive especially since he was the only one to beat him in a dominant fashion. Everyone else had a really really close fight with him.
Altough Umar only beat Sandhagen still that's an extremely good win especially when he dominated him. He showcased his skillset there and that he is a stylistic nightmare for Merab, since he is a great grappler and also can keep him at the distance with kicks. So just this makes this win great. And also even if Umar loses to Merab, I believe that Umar will be a champ at some point since he's so young and talented so this win will probably age like wine.
Also saying that Merab didn't fight a good grappler in a while is insane. In his last fight he beat Cejudo who is an olympian. And yeah it's faur that wrestling in MMA is different, but still he's a great grappler. Yan was also a really good grappler, we could even see that in the Figgy fight when Yan was taking him down and controlling him at times.
@@edavedral7881 true
Goat after one title defence
U don’t need 10 title defenses when you’ve beat the best quality of opponents before the belt
👆🤓
learn to watch before commenting
apart from cory he has cleared the division
@@lapugs382 no other divisional goat only has 1 title defence, in those cases they’re basically based on the title wins
Too be the goat you need to be able finish or look too finishing at any point of the fight because finishing the is what makes you different from everyone
Good old gritty breakdown
Lucas on a generationally crafty run after retirement
best outros in the game
Every time I see that hat I just think there's a hexagon cut out & that's just Lucas Tracy's yellow jew fro poking through 😂
LUCAS RESPOND TO BUNNYMMA YOU GOOF HE ABSOLUTELY COOKED YOU
Makhachev definitely. With Merab, can you call someone the goat of their weight class if they only have one title defense(and thats if he beats Umar which he's an underdog against)
Rewatch the video, he answers this many times
Lucas is the goat at the goat conversation
Very good criterias. Dana White is probably doing something similar with Meta for the upcoming ranking system (I am not kidding). I am a data scientist and was wondering which variables they should use, and pick up to something similar. Another one could be time inside the cage.
"Its way easier to get a title fight and get the title back now then the UFC before..."
-Kai Asakura getting a title shot in his first ever UFC fight
-Michael Chandler getting a title shot after 1 win in the UFC against Dan Hooker
-Izzy getting a title shot without a single win after his loss to Strickland
-Strickland getting a title shot after a split decision win against Costa and sitting out until he was offered a title fight
-Poirier getting a title shot for just beating a 12th ranked BSD
-#8 ranked Khalil Rountree gets a title shot with his best win being Anthony Smith
-#8 ranked Stipe gets a title shots despite not fighting for 3.5 years and getting flatlined in his last fight
Its harder for some like Islam and Merab to finally get title shots, but it definitely isn't harder for most folks to title shots or title rematches. UFC has always been extremely inconsistent with giving out title fights.
Calling Merab a goat of anything is satanic.
I like Merab but bantamweight GOAT with 1 title defense is crazy
the best age of mma is right now, everyone in this age (merab, yan, O’Malley) is 1-2 wins away from goat status because there is such a small margin between them. It seems weird but just be realistic/non biased and it actually makes sense
Moraes, Aldo, Yan, Cejudo, O’Malley and Umar wouldn’t be goat resume? Come on man
@ I think if merab beats Umar & gets one more win he’s cemented as the bantamweight goat but I don’t think one more win cements him as the goat because bantamweight since Aljo has had arguments over who’s the goat of the division. We need someone who’s a clear outlier to clear the arguments
@bro take moraes off there lol. Everyone else is a good win though
@@CorvoAttano21Moraes is mid, Aldo has beat no one good in the last 5 years and Cejudo since the retirement hasn’t been nearly as good as he used to be
Nobody talking about the ankalaev cameo at 1:09
Lucas is one video away from becoming the mma UA-camr goat
Saying Aljo beat Yan the first time is like saying Matt Hamill beat Jones that one time 😭
Lucas is looking cute today
Lucas really the goat of mma youtube
that intro i so tuff🥵
Crazy hearing you talk up Merab’s win oven an over-the-hill Cejudo while discounting Cruz’s win over DJ because he was young lol. You talk from a perspective of someone who has only been watching MMA for 2-3 years
Dude come on dj was fucking twelve 🤣
There's a vast difference between a crafty vet and a tadpole. Henry had been a double champ and won a gold medal in the fuckin Olympics. DJ had two (2) (dos) fights in the ufc when he fought cruz. You can't tell me that that version of Dj was anywhere near his peak. Also DJ is a shrimp and was even smaller then. There's a clear difference. You talk like someone who's been watching for 6 months
@ DJ was on the way up. Henry was on the way down
Islams best skill is his weight cutting, he weighs over 210 out of fight camp. He should be a natural welterweight.
Bedtime🔛🔝
Flukas can we get a video on how the fall of the Byzantine empire led to Holloway KO’ing Gaethje and retroactively moving volk up the GOAT list? 🙏
I can explain that to you brother! The fall of Constantinople led Mehmet II to conquer the final remains of the Roman Empire in 1453 CE. This 2000 year old Empire was taken away just like that, and the Ottoman Empire spreading led to the rise of Islam. This rise of Islam has led to many Muslim fighters being at the top of sports today including MMA, such as Islam, Belal and very soon Umar.
Now how does this relate to Holloway KOing Justin? Well Gaethje didn’t want to take too much time off after KOing Dustin back at 291, so he offered to fight Holloway for the BMF in hopes that if he’d win so he could fight Islam right after. Now Justin is Mexican-German from his Mother and Father respectively, and the Germans have always needed to conquer someone smaller first to take on the world. Justin was hoping that Holloway would be like his 1939 Poland, where he could start his WW2 conquest of taking down world class fighters with the Blessed. This conquest by Justin would ideally end with defeating a Muslim champion/conquerer such as Islam Machachev. The issue is that Holloway being Hawaiian means he’s American, so this revolve of Justin to overthrow their divisions Muslim champion led him to miss the historical facts on the United States helping the West defeat Germany back in WW2. The American pride of fighters can KO any threat their way even at the last second such as Holloway did to Justin, as the September 11th attacks have only strengthened our resolve as Americans to fight back against the spread of Terrorism in the name of Islam. We can never forget the events of 9-11 or Fall of Constantinople no matter how powerful our Muslim adversaries become, and this is what inevitably led to Holloway KOing Justin.
Your last question can easily be answered by the fact that Volk having three wins over Holloway means anything that the Blessed does Blesses Volks legacy as well. My apologies for the length, but I hope this helped!!
@@ngonimandizha7738 bro 😭🤣
@@ranjotrakkar6663 Give a like for more history info brotha!!
@@ngonimandizha7738Jewish history
And they both are going to probably win
Merab? No
Islam? Yes
Flukas Glazy
They both already are the Goat's.
Merab being the goat is crazy. At the end why be a supposed goat if all your fights are mad boring and praying for a decision.
lucas actually putting effort into a video??? we are so back
Lucas talking absolute facts. Merab is the GOAT. Proud of that man from my country🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
10 decisions in 11 fights with just 1 title defense is far from being a GOAT. Gtfo 😂
@@ZEREN_XCruz was the biggest decision machine casual😂
You mention Jose Aldos age whenever you reference how old he was during a fight, like saying he was "only" 35 during whatever fight he was in. Hes already got a lot of miles on him for someone at 35, since hes been fighting at the age 16-17. Hes been fighting for over 20 years. Thats something to take into consideration.
Flukas with the 720p classic Flukas quality
merab is arguably the bantam weight goat ngl
Does how you win not matter? If you’re finishing everyone or if you’re having close decision wins surely that factors into it?
Dude def has Jokic in his top 10
Bro Islam alr the lightweight goat
They are already the goats of their divisions.
Oh just stop it you stay chomping at the bit to make every fighter of this generation to be in top 15 or GOAT status. Merab has two good wins O’Malley and Yan and the O’Malley fight was way closer than people like to give it bc it’s just cool to shit on O’Malley. Anyway he has a 2-1 decision against a declining CCC beat moraes who was on a 3 fight losing streak and had a shit performance against Aldo in 22 Pro fights he has 5 finishes and TWO in the UFC Cruz beating Faber, Tj, “mighty mouse” coming back not in his prime and still beating Munhoz is better than merab resume not to mention Aljo?? CCC, “Tj” , Yan, Sandhagen and then there is Yan who has beat aljo, Aldo, Cory, Song Yadong, Figgy and some like to say O’Malley. Those are all better wins than merab resume JUST STOP IT YOU CANT FORCE IT… And you are already contradicting yourself at 13:23 you said he’s the bw goat and then at 19:53 you say your not saying he’s the bw goat
10-7 HARDY
Actually nobody talks about Merab having the best resume in BW.. he definitely will be the goat of BW defeating Umar
Let’s go Lukas!!!!!
30 minutes yapping session
They are already the goats by quality wins
I have such a big feeling that Islam is gonna lose im scared plz win Islam
"sCotT jOrGeNsoNNNNnnNn" is so funny too
W video
Even merab will be thinking what are you smoking bro
These are bedtime mma takes