If you live where there is little or no snow, this would be a good option considering its size and feature. But if it snows a lot, the evo's 4 wheel drive will be saver I think.
cominacatcha LOL Thanks, I'm good. I live in Charlotte, NC where it shuts down for the expectation of a dusting. I grew up in the northeast and used to enjoy driving 3rd gen f-bodies and other RWD winter beaters in the winter. RWD car with snow tires and a couple bags of salt in the trunk and you have a budget drift car. It's what I miss most about living up north. Waking up around 3 am and drifting the snow covered back roads before the plows came out. Now that I'm older with kids I don't get to do a lot of track days or hooning.
+Stig Msr. wow, that sure is a nice experience. I live in a tropical country btw so I've never seen winter. I only heard from my Japanese friends that RWD vehicles are quite scary in winter. Haven't tried it myself though.
+cominacatcha rwd + snow tires is awesome Ive gone back and forth on putting snows on the ss for the winter. Ended up deciding to keep it safe from salt and idiots on bad tires hitting it.
that's a good looking car too, chevy is definitely making a mistake if they pull it from the market, they finally have something to go after the germans with and they give up? that's what an American sports sedan should be
TheSmokingTire Chicken or egg? I'm guessing Chevy marketing knew better than product development and they didn't do ads because the car is a bit ill-conceived. It looks like an older cop cruiser with a body kit. Its not a bad design, but not stirring either. I'm pretty convinced with a Camaro-like body with 4 doors this thing would sell very well. The baby boomers (and that's generally who can afford a $45k car) are nostalgic and the younger guys who can buy the things want something sporty looking, not a Malibu with better aero.
You can see Matt really get excited about this one. I've always liked the SS. Little too heavy for my taste, but would be an awesome daily to compliment a weekend car.
I'm in Cali I took my daughter to the park just the other day caught and old couple in a bright red one pulling up right behind me on it. The old lad had good taste.
Definitely a sleeper. I found a 2014 in SIM with 4600 miles. My Chevy dealer had it transported to Florida from Illinios or Indiana. I have (sleeper) vanity tags on it, 62L-LS3 and the Chevy dealer doesn't have a clue. I have seen only 1 other on the road heading over to Tampa, red with RI tags, 4DRVETT.
Do you drive a G8 GXP? Or a Grand Prix GXP? You mentioned how much it eats up your front tires. So I wonder if that's because what you drive is front wheel drive (grand prix) or if you suffer from terrible understeer (possibly G8?) Cause they're talking about the RWD Pontiac G8 GXP in this review. No intention of insult, honest question.
@@akconquest3901 It must be the front wheel drive GXP. I’ve got two VE Commodores (the Australian version of the car) and they don’t chew up font tyres at all. One of them even has over 320,000kms on it now with nothing ever replaced in the front suspension and it doesn’t chew tyres.
Nice car, it would be cool if someone imported a Turbo falcon to the states(XR6 Turbo, F6 Typhoon), they are popular over here and easily hold lots of power. They are a bit like a modern version of your Grand National
+Craig J how I've wanted to. Its impossibly hard to import a car newer than 25 years old here in the states. You can pay for two and have the US gov crash test one, or I think you can import it and register it as a collectors' vehicle but you can only drive it like 2k miles a year or something. 6 banger falcons are sweet but I've heard both the falcon and commodore from the 90s were trash
As a European it's surprising to me that you guys could *not* pass almost everywhere. We only have no passing zones in curves or where the view is limited, and even then by far not every time. In general it's up to the driver being responsible. Same goes for speed limits.
+DeepDuh Where do you live? I'm french and there is no passing zones on straight lines sometimes. And there are always speed limit... 90km/h (=55mph) on all roads except highways...
+ptibab73 I didn't mean to say that there is *no* speed limit (like on the Autobahn), but it's not like in the US where some road safety administrator apparently does the thinking for you. Outside town it's usually 80km/h here in Switzerland, even on a very curvy road. And Switzerland is conservative, I much prefer driving in France or Germany where my point stands even more I think.
+TheSmokingTire Yes, these things are surprising about the US. Politically the US tends to be very 'liberal' (in the European sense of the word, so anti regulation), but in many areas concerning *personal* liberties like speed limits, alcohol consumption, lingering in public places, behavior with law inforcement officers etc. its regulation are much *more* heavy handed than the so-called socialist Europe. It really doesn't quite fit with the 'land of the free' image. Probably should be called "land of the free *corporations*" nowadays.
Hey Matt, we in Australia are also very sad to see Holden close in 2015, especially in South Australia and Victoria where the factories are. My friend was frankly astounded how cars of this quality are produced by such laid-back people. I was fortunate enough to ride in his VF SS Commodore, and it was indeed spacious, had a smooth V8, and as many features as it did horsepower. The VF is a rightful send off to the Holden manufacturing in Australia.
+SNelens It's a shame your country takes hooning so damn seriously. If you drive like an ass and get caught here in the states, worst case they'll just take your license away and impound your car. Crushing cars is just plain unreasonable
Riding shotgun in a one take with Matt would be like getting a massage, he points out things you didn't even know were there and you walk away satisfied and maybe a little sore.
+Darryl Ware Mustang doing well in UK. We will see if that lasts. Maybe the people will wanted one will get one in the first year only but we will see.
+Michael Cohen It's the best looking of the current breed of American muscle imho. I think they are going to bring it here to replace the Ford Falcon XR6's when Ford also discontinue production in Australia in 2016.
GM said they aren't discontinuing it because of low sales, they say it's because they want to discontinue all non-global platforms. Although the sales must not be up to spec, otherwise they would just make it a global platform. The holden Commodore will probably continue as a disguised CTS/CTS-V.
+Antimation Studios The low sales probably has to do with the fact that you can only buy the car fully loaded. So most people don't want to spend that kind of money, they needed to make it like any other car to where it starts out as a stripper model and then you can option it up.
Discontinuing because The Holden Commodore is no longer in production in Australia after 2017. As Australia make & design every aspect (except the motor) of this vehicle, then exports to the States it stands to reason if the car is going to be discontinued here it will have a flow on effect else where.
+TheCobruhAlienat0r they're pricing a LOT of people out starting at $45k USD. you take away pretty much the entire "growing family late 20s early 30s" crew and bump it up to people that are going to buy german no matter what. ditch $10k worth of options ADVERTISE IT. i've never even heard of the bloody thing.
tr0n In Australia the base V6 model sells at $28435.82 USD (specific because of the conversion from AUD) and it sells quite well, it was developed by GM Australia for the Australian market, so they don't really care about sales in the US.
Anthony Webber they wont, the ute would sell so much , and gm not having a ute out sale a vette or beat it lol . Ive seen in a few in florida and Mexico left hand drive.
+cobra454tim Yeah, I read a road and track article and the they mentioned bringing in some germans for the development "Also along for the ride were a handful of eggheads who had helped develop the E39" www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/features/a25248/the-comparison-2003-bmw-m5-versus-2015-chevrolet-ss/
+HJZ75driver American cars are tuned locally like anything else - hence the freeway-friendly steering mentioned in the video, but also some writers who've driven both talking of the Chevy being better at the limit than the Commodore. Makes sense with where it's priced in the market & how fidgety old commies are in the rear.
seeing a lot of folks make the e39 m5 comparison to this thing i feel like you could black out the chrome bits and swap the badge for a cadillac and nobody would blink an eye
+Ryukachoo I think the current SS is very similar to my first-gen CTS-V which I've always seen as very similar in its own to the E39 M5. 400 hp V8, manual only, 4 door sport-sedan.
+Ryukachoo It is a shame it is the only remaining NA V8 Manual sedan that remains. At least it is a good one. I think it sounds better than the E39 and the back seat is way bigger.
Nice. The VF is the best Commodore model Holden ever produced and any V8 version is nice to drive. If you want a bit of fun stick a supercharger on it lol
My new dream car. With the addition of the Magnetic Ride, and manual transmission. Pretty much a good American 4 Door V8 RWD car made by Chevy, way better than a German car. Plus I got a 1995 Impala SS and a 2003 Marauder.
oakcliffscrewhead you’ve got three awesome and nostalgic modern muscle sedans. I have a soft spot for the Marauder because i have a 64 and would love a 03-05 Car to family
American cousins. If you'd like the wagon or ute (pickup) version of this car you'd better be quick if you want a brand new one. With the factory closing this year the numbers in storage are dwindling. You can buy one here and have it converted to LHD in the US. A better bet is to buy a demo or secondhand unit with low kms (miles) on the clock and then get it modified Stateside. I own the wagon version here in Australia and I love it. The weight distribution is a little different (wheelbase the same) and I reckon it handles better than the sedan plus it's a real eye catcher.
+Riley Nelson Yeah that is definitely the ideal situation. I mean why the hell not, it would just be an NA version of the ATS-V. That really is what they need to do.
+Riley Nelson this is the last model of the holden to be exported to the U.S. then the SS model will be dropped in 2017 until they find a car to base it on as the commodore is going to germany but will still be designed in australia but it may be all or front wheel drive as a V6 or 4 Cylinder only model the Chevrolet ss may die once again as well as the V8 holden and All chevy models from aus will be dropped in 2017 such as the captiva cruze and sonic as well as other muscle such as caprice and the whole zeta platform with most cars receiving updates such as engine chassis body and interior in 2017 most of ford's and GM's cars will be replaced in 2017 with euro made or designed cars (sad but true)
Love this car. 5 years from now, I'll be in the market for one. I'll also be at the stage in my life where my mother will be wondering when grandchildren are coming and my g/f will be getting nervous every time I kneel to tie my shoe. 4 doors, 6 speeds and a LS, everyone wins here. ("Look at the trunk space honey! The baby seat will sit back there perfect! Don't worry that it's stick, just sit back, I'll do all the driving!")
@@timeshaft5088 I'm not in the market for one but ironically I can actually afford one now! Between my comment and now I've owned a GTI, V6 Mustang, and now a have a 2019 GLI (all manual). I love my GLI but I'm looking for a weekend car. I'm thinking about getting a V8 S550 Mustang, probably a 2016 or 2015. Inventory on the SS in 6 speed isn't exactly plentiful but I did end up getting my 6 speed sedan, it's just a Volkswagen and not a V8 RWD Chevy! lol
Eric S Eric S That’s awesome. They just don’t make cars like the SS anymore. That’s why i’m saving up for one now. And you’re right, the manuals are in very few quantity now, but i’m sure there will always be at least 2 or 3 ones for sale on Autotrader. I want to be driving an SS when everyone’s driving electric cars in 2050.
As a market comparison the 328i in Australia is $70,400 plus options. The Audi S3 is $70,100. The Commodore SSV Redline (near identical to the car reviewed) is $56,000. So it is 20% less expensive compared to those cars in it's domestic market. The recent restyling to the front is a slight visual improvement to my eyes so hopefully that makes it to the US market soon. They also tweaked the rear suspension too.
It's not at all surprising that this car doesn't sell. There is ZERO print or TV advertising for it. The only public exposure it gets is being the face of Chevrolet's NASCAR program. I have personally seen maybe (and that's a strong maybe) five of them in the wild. It's a shame, really.
Apparently they tried to keep this car under the table because they only wanted to import a certain number of them. And NASCAR as an advertisement in 2017 is nothing like it was in 1997, you might as well be advertising the car to golfers. I live and work around Charlotte NC, NASCAR country, and this car is pretty popular around here due to the mentality of moonshiners running the big cars with big v8’s back in the day. There’s still a lot of wholesome muscle car people here, and this car fits in with the area perfectly.
Chevy guy my whole life & was so close to buying one of these. Dodge just did such a good job on the remodel in 2015 I had to go with it. I wish the SS looked a little more aggressive, every time I see a malibu I speed up hoping its an SS.
this is the equivalent now of the VF Series 2 Commodore SS Redline. In Australia we don't get adjustable shocks(just FE3 spec suspension), but there is a bimodal exhaust now, and a Euro style "sound pipe" from the intake system to the firewall. Everything else is about the same. $60k drive away. And yeah, it is a pity they are all gone in 12-18 months...
As someone who used to dislike almost every GM product on the market, I really thinker GM has stepped up their game substantially in the past couple of years. This is a seriously good car, and if you're looking to spend a lot less. GM will sell you an ATS 2.0T rwd with a 6-speed! Not to mention their build quality has vastly improved.
Also what is up with the SS name, are they still allowed to use it? Forza Motorsport 6 calls it the "Super Sport" and all the SS badges have disappeared from other cars too in the game due to being of the same initials of the Nazi SS apparently, political correctness strikes again.
+DeaKen002 Not sure but the v8 version of the Holden Commodore has been called the "SS" for decades now in Australia. For the G8 I guess they wanted their own name, but this time Chev just went with its Australian model name. Makes more sense so why not.
@@mike_money71 if you get the automatic.... The best thing you can do before anything..... It's get a transmission tune.... Totally different car I promise you
+MrTacticalSloth It's funny that on the Chevrolet website you can configure a Chevrolet SS with Holden badges already on it. At least they pay attention to what people want.
Holy shit that car is fast! Around 6:53, it sounded like you were at the top of 4th gear. Assuming the manual SS has 3.73 gears, top of 4th gear means at least 140 mph.
Hey Matt, pretty sure you read a lot of comments so I figured I'd tell you how much I love this show. Thank you so much for doing this, even if you don't get much money out of it. So many cool cars, and it's great listening to you talk to guests. Keep it up.
I autocrossed my E39 M5 a bunch.... similar to this car and definitely good fun at an autocross. Very different strategy and execution on traversing the cones compared to most other cars out there. There's something about a big car that has a nice tuned suspension that's fun to drive but not so harsh like a tiny sports car.
after driving my g8 gxp for 7 years I have to say it still feels and looks as new as when I got it... its almost Perfect.. SS i have a feeling is PERFECT
Great video as always Matt! Seriously though, how can you say that the SS is a better car than the E39 M5 😝? Sure it may be newer and faster but the build quality is no comparison and the S62 is a far more complex engine with individual throttle bodies, g-sensitive oil pump system, etc. it would be cool if you could review an E39 M5 soon!
Just thought I'd put some info here for everyone asking in the comments. This car is designed and built in Australia by GM Holden, and will be discontinued in 2017 due to the closing down of Holden's factories in Australia. Holden will become a full-importer in Australia, sourcing cars from Chevrolet US, GM South Korea and Opel's factories in Germany and Poland. It's a sad time for the Australian automotive industry as Holden, Ford and Toyota are all closing their factories here in Australia leaving us with zero local car manufacturing.
I know these aren't the most exciting looking cars, but I still find them to be handsome and very desirable, and probably one of the last V8 manual sedans available for the US.
Matt, I'm an e39 M5 owner and I highly respect your opinion. With all due respect you can compare the e39M5 v SS, but it's already been done, see link below: www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/features/a25248/the-comparison-2003-bmw-m5-versus-2015-chevrolet-ss/ Spoiler alert the SS loses.
Looks like a nice car but the MSRP is $46k, not sure if most people willing to buy an American sports sedan at that price. Sure, it's a bargain when you compare the performance to that of the BMW M3, Audi S4, etc. But most people who can afford it are buying it for the name. I thought Chevy is the US govt car company they should make a car a regular Joe six pack can afford. $36-38k would be better price consider when Pontiac failed, they were unloading G8 for $26k
+Vision33r You really can't compare the base VE platform G8 (V6, 260HP) or G8 GT( V8, 355HP) to to the VF platform 2014-2016 Chevy SS in terms of price. The V6 G8 (confusing, I know) was a $29k base price, the GT with the 6.0 V8 was $32k base price, and the 6.2 V8 (415HP LS3, same as the SS) G8 GXP was $38k (and a manual was another $900 on top of that) This is better equipped than the top of the line GXP, which fully loaded was over $40k in 2009. Factor for inflation, and that's about the same as $45k in 2016 dollars. The G8 GXP had a (comparatively) shit interior, no nav/infotainment, lesser traction control, no backup camera, no rear collision alert, no adaptive cruise control, no self-parking, no magnetic ride control, lesser brakes, and it was on the old, 100 pounds+ heavier, not as stiff VE platform. All it had going for it over the SS is a more aggressive front fascia and hood scoops (countered by an even more bland rear fascia). Just sayin'.
The sticker on my G8 GT was 33k. That was with a smaller engine and an interior that was not nearly as nice as the SS and with not nearly as many bells and whistles. Most reviews say this car is a bargain at sticker price.
To add to the G8 GXP discussion the market for those cars really hasn't been affected much. Only ~1850 gxps were ever made (2009 was the only year) and roughly half of them were manual transmission, the fact of how rare a manual g8 is will probably keep those prices high for a long time.
+Ralph L I believe it I'm just saying anybody that wants a manual g8 has less than 1000 to choose from unless they modify an auto. Also being officially the most powerful "pontiac" ever produced doesn't hurt.
+Tyler Welken Both are great cars. The G8 has the looks. The SS is the king of the sleeper. Now to find a G8 GXP Firehawk with a manual transmission. There were only a couple of these in the GXP trim.
Maybe theyer not selling many of them because they dont really try to market the car over here. I barely hear shit about this car. Especially after everything gm has gone through in the recent years. The only gm cars that sell well are models that have been around for a while and theyer trucks. Put this car in motorsports, market some commercials about it, create some hype. Cuz we dont wtf it is otherwise. Even thow its a legend in Australia ,like the camaro is here.
I really love this car. It's just more than I can afford. I can see this being one of those cars that everyone wants to buy used, esp in manual but (as evidence is suggesting) no one wants to fork out for new. Even though the manuals are sadly not selling well new I think they will fetch a good premium over automatics in the used market. I am also interested in exactly what this guy did to his suspension to get rid of the dead spot. Can this be done without an auto-X alignment (IE an alignment that doesn't consume tires on the highway).
The manuals from what ive gathered are moving: the autos, not as well. I maxed the front camber adjustment (set screw between knuckle and strut), and a touch of toe out in front. Also added some -camber in the rear and rolled the rear fenders (mostly for future fitments. I.e c5z wheel set). Its nothing extreme. 10k miles altered between 2 sets neither set is showing any wear to be concerned over. The wheels mounted when filmed had a signifigant amount of outside shoulder wear from autox on c5 when it didnt have enough -camber. The ss hasnt seen an autox day since june. But the forecast for the weekend when the filming took place was rainy and cold. I dont fit with a helmet in our miata or c5 with roof on/up.
you ask what other rwd sedan you could get for $45K new with a manual? I can't think of any other model, BUT the SS isnt sold in Canada! Every time I see a G8 I wonder why the SS never replaced it here. There certainly are plenty of chargers and 300s driving around so the market for "American" rwd sedans is still strong.
+Russell Robinson wondering the same thing. pretty much every vehicle that isn't a truck or a honda in my town is either a new camaro, mustang, challenger, charger or cadillac. and we don't get the SS. never even knew it existed.
......... in a few months time, i'll have my car sorted to where i'll be somewhat happy with it. Feel free to give it a test drive =D ....In Australia, HSV Grange (the spec'd up version of the Chevy Caprice)
So you apologized to us for overtaking ? I say thanks for some proper fast driving man, some car's history and future talk is cool but the motor sounds is why most are here. Too bad many good cars will go away after 2017, this and the Viper are already on the chopping block what else? :[
Matt should review that G37S 6MT sedan parked on that dirt road. They're not quite as quick as a period 335i, but handle well are are much more reliable. If he ever comes to Georgia mine is available
I have a 2014 SS and yeah it’s auto. But I don’t care it’s fast,fun and they are right it’s fun. It’s a cool dad car. Just wish there was a bit less chrome. Although at least I’m not just another Charger going down the road. 😁
Well if you bought them you would of saved Holden as it was the sales of this in state that killed Holden as only 12000 sold and needed 120000 now gm wants $160 million for the Holden name ass holes as a company wanted to make electric cars here in the old Holden plant and use the Holden name witch is a Australian icon Chevy gm holding the name to ransom I have a the very first redline in the ve
The most geuine US review of the Chevy SS. Big back seat for two big guys.....very very funny. Rear wheel drive V8 Manual transmission !!!!! Words not usually said in the same sentence for under $70K BIG numbers....Yes it's only a matter of time..... Some day I believe I will be assisting GOVT consolidated revenue. A dead spot in the steering??? When it's straight?? Extra camber, spacers???? You know with the Aussie dollar so low you guys could buy and freight a set of Commodore SSV wheels from Australia for next to knix. I have 2016 VF Commodore SSV Redline series 2. Beautiful Car, great to drive fast. YES many engine upgrades available....Headers, OTR air intakes, full & Cat back exhausts, Superchargers!!!!! Go mate through some bolt on bits on it and get that HP hhigher.
THis isnt a copy of the Australian Car,, IT IS THE AUSTRALIAN CAR,, MADE HERE 100% Australian and shipped to America Left Hand Drive. there was 3 more powerfull models America didnt get.WE made these cars for 40 years and every model would smoke the Z/28 or Trans ams. I am Australian and have a 1982 Z/28 and an SS commodore. The Z/28 305 i have had since 1999 is pethetic but looks great. ALSO the M5 mentioned is 3 times the price of that Commodore and un reliable. Good Video
"Youre a big guy, I'm a big guy, theres a big back seat..." Buy the guy dinner first before you soil the back seat
+mrjones944 You win the comment section for today!
Lmfao that's the best Comment here
+mrjones944 This isn't some plymouth fury with a velour back seat.
Best Comment Award 😂😂
Hahhahaa omg there are tears in my eye. Give this man over a hundred likes please!
*WOT pull*
Owner looks over at speedo, grins
i fucking love the whole vid for that moment
+yitznewton u WOT m8
+yitznewton 6:40
anonymous LOL
With 2 kids I'm really considering trading my Evo 9 MR for one of these. I think it will make a better dad car.
+Stig Msr There are some ergonomic/refinement bits that make you remember its still from the gm tree. But otherwise, its been fantastic.
If you live where there is little or no snow, this would be a good option considering its size and feature. But if it snows a lot, the evo's 4 wheel drive will be saver I think.
cominacatcha LOL Thanks, I'm good. I live in Charlotte, NC where it shuts down for the expectation of a dusting. I grew up in the northeast and used to enjoy driving 3rd gen f-bodies and other RWD winter beaters in the winter. RWD car with snow tires and a couple bags of salt in the trunk and you have a budget drift car. It's what I miss most about living up north. Waking up around 3 am and drifting the snow covered back roads before the plows came out. Now that I'm older with kids I don't get to do a lot of track days or hooning.
+Stig Msr. wow, that sure is a nice experience. I live in a tropical country btw so I've never seen winter. I only heard from my Japanese friends that RWD vehicles are quite scary in winter. Haven't tried it myself though.
+cominacatcha rwd + snow tires is awesome
Ive gone back and forth on putting snows on the ss for the winter.
Ended up deciding to keep it safe from salt and idiots on bad tires hitting it.
that's a good looking car too, chevy is definitely making a mistake if they pull it from the market, they finally have something to go after the germans with and they give up? that's what an American sports sedan should be
It's not selling.
Michael Cohen they're not marketing it right
+olov244 they don't market it at all. Never seen a commercial for one in the 2 years it's been on the market here.
TheSmokingTire I didn't know it even existed. feels like the g8, they never gave it a chance and killed it before anyone knew about it
TheSmokingTire Chicken or egg? I'm guessing Chevy marketing knew better than product development and they didn't do ads because the car is a bit ill-conceived. It looks like an older cop cruiser with a body kit. Its not a bad design, but not stirring either. I'm pretty convinced with a Camaro-like body with 4 doors this thing would sell very well. The baby boomers (and that's generally who can afford a $45k car) are nostalgic and the younger guys who can buy the things want something sporty looking, not a Malibu with better aero.
"its fun as shit"
Shitting is not fun to me.
Its the funnest part of my daily routine, I agree with the owner of the SS
+Mel Laknanurak more fiber in your diet sir
+Saad Maan when your shit tells you you need fiber, shitting is no fun...
You can see Matt really get excited about this one. I've always liked the SS. Little too heavy for my taste, but would be an awesome daily to compliment a weekend car.
This is a Great Sleeper car. You rarely see these vehicles on the road and if you do, you do a double check, thinking its a Malibu.
Every time!
Hahaha so true. You see the extra little bits though, and go hmmmm. I think I just a saw an SS!
Everytimeeeee!!!!!!
I'm in Cali I took my daughter to the park just the other day caught and old couple in a bright red one pulling up right behind me on it. The old lad had good taste.
Definitely a sleeper. I found a 2014 in SIM with 4600 miles. My Chevy dealer had it transported to Florida from Illinios or Indiana. I have (sleeper) vanity tags on it, 62L-LS3 and the Chevy dealer doesn't have a clue. I have seen only 1 other on the road heading over to Tampa, red with RI tags, 4DRVETT.
I'm been driving my GXP for 6 years. Still love it. It eats front tires and the gas mileage is offensive, but who cares. Great stoplight torque!
Cool.
Do you drive a G8 GXP? Or a Grand Prix GXP? You mentioned how much it eats up your front tires. So I wonder if that's because what you drive is front wheel drive (grand prix) or if you suffer from terrible understeer (possibly G8?) Cause they're talking about the RWD Pontiac G8 GXP in this review. No intention of insult, honest question.
Hey! We're still waiting for that answer!
@@akconquest3901 It must be the front wheel drive GXP. I’ve got two VE Commodores (the Australian version of the car) and they don’t chew up font tyres at all. One of them even has over 320,000kms on it now with nothing ever replaced in the front suspension and it doesn’t chew tyres.
Nice car, it would be cool if someone imported a Turbo falcon to the states(XR6 Turbo, F6 Typhoon), they are popular over here and easily hold lots of power. They are a bit like a modern version of your Grand National
+Craig J the barra I6 is truly a beast engine especially the turbo ones
yep! from 2009-2012 i owned a black FG XR6 turbo and it was good fun! great amount of torque for daily driving
+Craig J I've just bought a black FG turbo and love it..such a weapon with so much potential too.
+Craig J how I've wanted to. Its impossibly hard to import a car newer than 25 years old here in the states. You can pay for two and have the US gov crash test one, or I think you can import it and register it as a collectors' vehicle but you can only drive it like 2k miles a year or something. 6 banger falcons are sweet but I've heard both the falcon and commodore from the 90s were trash
+Thomas Lee It's not true, there are some awesome commy and falcons in the 90's/
As a European it's surprising to me that you guys could *not* pass almost everywhere. We only have no passing zones in curves or where the view is limited, and even then by far not every time. In general it's up to the driver being responsible. Same goes for speed limits.
+DeepDuh Welcome to America, land of lawsuits and safety nets.
+DeepDuh Where do you live? I'm french and there is no passing zones on straight lines sometimes. And there are always speed limit... 90km/h (=55mph) on all roads except highways...
+ptibab73 Ouai enfin y'a aussi des voies rapides à 110 ;) et on peut souvent doubler sur des routes hors-villes quand même ( en tout cas dans le 34 à
+ptibab73 I didn't mean to say that there is *no* speed limit (like on the Autobahn), but it's not like in the US where some road safety administrator apparently does the thinking for you. Outside town it's usually 80km/h here in Switzerland, even on a very curvy road. And Switzerland is conservative, I much prefer driving in France or Germany where my point stands even more I think.
+TheSmokingTire Yes, these things are surprising about the US. Politically the US tends to be very 'liberal' (in the European sense of the word, so anti regulation), but in many areas concerning *personal* liberties like speed limits, alcohol consumption, lingering in public places, behavior with law inforcement officers etc. its regulation are much *more* heavy handed than the so-called socialist Europe. It really doesn't quite fit with the 'land of the free' image. Probably should be called "land of the free *corporations*" nowadays.
Hey Matt, we in Australia are also very sad to see Holden close in 2015, especially in South Australia and Victoria where the factories are. My friend was frankly astounded how cars of this quality are produced by such laid-back people. I was fortunate enough to ride in his VF SS Commodore, and it was indeed spacious, had a smooth V8, and as many features as it did horsepower. The VF is a rightful send off to the Holden manufacturing in Australia.
Going to b a very sad day when they stop
+Nick C Ill take a moment of silence when that happens.
+engared every Holden lover should
Holden should do a big cruise
+Nick C Wanna let this american know whats going on with holden? Is GMUS just going to import cars down under now?
+Thomas Lee i think they're gonna have the Chevy badge instead... honestly Holden should be kept Holden because of the history in Straya
Australia's most highly confiscated, impounded and crushed type of car.......mmmm nice.....
Damn you're being governed by fucking nazis
+SNelens It's a shame your country takes hooning so damn seriously. If you drive like an ass and get caught here in the states, worst case they'll just take your license away and impound your car. Crushing cars is just plain unreasonable
+brandon18054 yes true but high fuck wit factor also means some heavy handed policing is required unfortunately.
+SNelens Oz def has its share of fucking idiots on the road!
+SNelens wonder how GT86s are doing in comparison? I see em get pulled over pretty regularly
"you're a big guy, i'm a big guy, there's a big back seat"
Bq B start the jazz music
"You're big guy, I'm a big guy, there is a big back seat...;)" 😂 Matt Farah be low-key hitting on guys!
Yeah, one of the coolest car shows out right now.
and great car too!!!
This and the Taurus SHO. I'm glad both exist.
+iamstd2 true.
+Mike Zeke The Falcon is better.
+Hunter4042012 falcon?
come to Australia and do one takes of the HSV Clubsport R8 and HSV GTS
Riding shotgun in a one take with Matt would be like getting a massage, he points out things you didn't even know were there and you walk away satisfied and maybe a little sore.
Mostly a little sore.
***** That's how you know it was good though right? ;)
They needed a bit meaner design & maybe a better name.
+s50201 No need for better names, the manual ls3 is all we need
+s50201 People in other markets may find that bloated muscle car look that is popular in American cars to be too vulgar.
+s50201 Call me crazy but I think the new Impala is better looking car wish they used this chassis on that car
+Darryl Ware Mustang doing well in UK. We will see if that lasts. Maybe the people will wanted one will get one in the first year only but we will see.
+Michael Cohen It's the best looking of the current breed of American muscle imho. I think they are going to bring it here to replace the Ford Falcon XR6's when Ford also discontinue production in Australia in 2016.
R.I.P. Australian built muscle.
GM said they aren't discontinuing it because of low sales, they say it's because they want to discontinue all non-global platforms. Although the sales must not be up to spec, otherwise they would just make it a global platform. The holden Commodore will probably continue as a disguised CTS/CTS-V.
+Antimation Studios it is going to be a Opel Insignia.
+Antimation Studios The low sales probably has to do with the fact that you can only buy the car fully loaded. So most people don't want to spend that kind of money, they needed to make it like any other car to where it starts out as a stripper model and then you can option it up.
Discontinuing because The Holden Commodore is no longer in production in Australia after 2017. As Australia make & design every aspect (except the motor) of this vehicle, then exports to the States it stands to reason if the car is going to be discontinued here it will have a flow on effect else where.
+TheCobruhAlienat0r they're pricing a LOT of people out starting at $45k USD. you take away pretty much the entire "growing family late 20s early 30s" crew and bump it up to people that are going to buy german no matter what.
ditch $10k worth of options ADVERTISE IT. i've never even heard of the bloody thing.
tr0n In Australia the base V6 model sells at $28435.82 USD (specific because of the conversion from AUD) and it sells quite well, it was developed by GM Australia for the Australian market, so they don't really care about sales in the US.
i love GM, but they didn't sell the GXP or the SS here in canada, and they should of brought the Holden ute to america as the Chevrolet El Camino
Anthony Webber they wont, the ute would sell so much , and gm not having a ute out sale a vette or beat it lol . Ive seen in a few in florida and Mexico left hand drive.
Funny thing Matt on how you say its like an E39, well word on the street is GM grabbed a lot of ex BMW engineers for this platform...
no they didnt. All built/designed in Australia. No Germans involved
+HJZ75driver it was the G8
+cobra454tim Yeah, I read a road and track article and the they mentioned bringing in some germans for the development "Also along for the ride were a handful of eggheads who had helped develop the E39"
www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/features/a25248/the-comparison-2003-bmw-m5-versus-2015-chevrolet-ss/
+HJZ75driver American cars are tuned locally like anything else - hence the freeway-friendly steering mentioned in the video, but also some writers who've driven both talking of the Chevy being better at the limit than the Commodore. Makes sense with where it's priced in the market & how fidgety old commies are in the rear.
+5thgearouttahere Has American specific suspension before it leaves Fishermen's bend
seeing a lot of folks make the e39 m5 comparison to this thing
i feel like you could black out the chrome bits and swap the badge for a cadillac and nobody would blink an eye
+Ryukachoo Generally I tell people driving it just pretend the chevy badge isn't there.
+Ryukachoo GM actually offers a package with black trim instead of chrome now. It looks much more wicked.
+Ryukachoo I think the current SS is very similar to my first-gen CTS-V which I've always seen as very similar in its own to the E39 M5. 400 hp V8, manual only, 4 door sport-sedan.
+Ryukachoo
It is a shame it is the only remaining NA V8 Manual sedan that remains. At least it is a good one. I think it sounds better than the E39 and the back seat is way bigger.
"Fun as Shit"
The 2015 Chevrolet SS
I don't know what it is about the owner, maybe its his mans man aura. His simplistic yet mysterious animalistic look. He is the every day man sexy.
+musicISlyf1 My heart is melting like sticks of butter left out in the summer.
I wonder if this version would have sold better in the UK, we get the HSV model instead and it sells for £50K+ rather than the £35K+ of the last gen.
+DeaKen002 hsv would have a supercharger attached wouldnt it ?
+wax333 2014 or older are NA
+DeaKen002 HSV is like Lexus and Holden is like Toyota.
rex747 The Chevy SS is a rebadged Holden were as the Vauxhall VXR8 is a rebadged HSV GTS.
+rex747 more like AMG to Mercedes Benz...
Nice. The VF is the best Commodore model Holden ever produced and any V8 version is nice to drive. If you want a bit of fun stick a supercharger on it lol
thats not a dick move even if theres a line
My new dream car. With the addition of the Magnetic Ride, and manual transmission. Pretty much a good American 4 Door V8 RWD car made by Chevy, way better than a German car. Plus I got a 1995 Impala SS and a 2003 Marauder.
oakcliffscrewhead you’ve got three awesome and nostalgic modern muscle sedans. I have a soft spot for the Marauder because i have a 64 and would love a 03-05 Car to family
American cousins. If you'd like the wagon or ute (pickup) version of this car you'd better be quick if you want a brand new one. With the factory closing this year the numbers in storage are dwindling. You can buy one here and have it converted to LHD in the US. A better bet is to buy a demo or secondhand unit with low kms (miles) on the clock and then get it modified Stateside. I own the wagon version here in Australia and I love it. The weight distribution is a little different (wheelbase the same) and I reckon it handles better than the sedan plus it's a real eye catcher.
I wish they would update the SS and go with the alpha platform and the LT1 for 2017.
Hell yes!
+Riley Nelson Yeah that is definitely the ideal situation. I mean why the hell not, it would just be an NA version of the ATS-V. That really is what they need to do.
Vernon Price At around $45k, it would be perfect. A definite pick over the 6th gen Camaro SS.
+Riley Nelson this is the last model of the holden to be exported to the U.S. then the SS model will be dropped in 2017 until they find a car to base it on as the commodore is going to germany but will still be designed in australia but it may be all or front wheel drive as a V6 or 4 Cylinder only model the Chevrolet ss may die once again as well as the V8 holden and All chevy models from aus will be dropped in 2017 such as the captiva cruze and sonic as well as other muscle such as caprice and the whole zeta platform with most cars receiving updates such as engine chassis body and interior in 2017 most of ford's and GM's cars will be replaced in 2017 with euro made or designed cars (sad but true)
Love this car. 5 years from now, I'll be in the market for one. I'll also be at the stage in my life where my mother will be wondering when grandchildren are coming and my g/f will be getting nervous every time I kneel to tie my shoe. 4 doors, 6 speeds and a LS, everyone wins here. ("Look at the trunk space honey! The baby seat will sit back there perfect! Don't worry that it's stick, just sit back, I'll do all the driving!")
Eric S Almost 5 years later. Are you still in the market for one? Or have your car tastes shifted?
@@timeshaft5088 I'm not in the market for one but ironically I can actually afford one now! Between my comment and now I've owned a GTI, V6 Mustang, and now a have a 2019 GLI (all manual). I love my GLI but I'm looking for a weekend car. I'm thinking about getting a V8 S550 Mustang, probably a 2016 or 2015. Inventory on the SS in 6 speed isn't exactly plentiful but I did end up getting my 6 speed sedan, it's just a Volkswagen and not a V8 RWD Chevy! lol
Eric S Eric S That’s awesome. They just don’t make cars like the SS anymore. That’s why i’m saving up for one now. And you’re right, the manuals are in very few quantity now, but i’m sure there will always be at least 2 or 3 ones for sale on Autotrader. I want to be driving an SS when everyone’s driving electric cars in 2050.
Im a big guy, you're a big guy, theres a big back seat... haha you say some funny things sometimes. Just pullin your chain. Great video!
cant believe these one takes have been going on for so long.... theyre classics man, keep it up
As a market comparison the 328i in Australia is $70,400 plus options. The Audi S3 is $70,100. The Commodore SSV Redline (near identical to the car reviewed) is $56,000. So it is 20% less expensive compared to those cars in it's domestic market. The recent restyling to the front is a slight visual improvement to my eyes so hopefully that makes it to the US market soon. They also tweaked the rear suspension too.
It's not at all surprising that this car doesn't sell. There is ZERO print or TV advertising for it. The only public exposure it gets is being the face of Chevrolet's NASCAR program. I have personally seen maybe (and that's a strong maybe) five of them in the wild. It's a shame, really.
Same in oz , imported cars adds . The media don't help either currant affair , choice magazine encouraging consumers to buy imports
Apparently they tried to keep this car under the table because they only wanted to import a certain number of them. And NASCAR as an advertisement in 2017 is nothing like it was in 1997, you might as well be advertising the car to golfers. I live and work around Charlotte NC, NASCAR country, and this car is pretty popular around here due to the mentality of moonshiners running the big cars with big v8’s back in the day. There’s still a lot of wholesome muscle car people here, and this car fits in with the area perfectly.
Chevy guy my whole life & was so close to buying one of these. Dodge just did such a good job on the remodel in 2015 I had to go with it. I wish the SS looked a little more aggressive, every time I see a malibu I speed up hoping its an SS.
Much respect to Matt... He acknowledges that this is a Commodore. Always enjoys your videos, keep up the great work
Holden🇦🇺2013/17 VF Commodore🔥SS-V🏁Redline (Sedan-Perfect Blue)!!!
If the SS looked like the G8 GXP and not a damn Malibu - sales would be a lot better.
Thats the whole point its to be a sleeper and a car that flys under the radar. Its suppose to look like your run of the mill plain jane chevy
this is the equivalent now of the VF Series 2 Commodore SS Redline. In Australia we don't get adjustable shocks(just FE3 spec suspension), but there is a bimodal exhaust now, and a Euro style "sound pipe" from the intake system to the firewall. Everything else is about the same. $60k drive away.
And yeah, it is a pity they are all gone in 12-18 months...
As someone who used to dislike almost every GM product on the market, I really thinker GM has stepped up their game substantially in the past couple of years. This is a seriously good car, and if you're looking to spend a lot less. GM will sell you an ATS 2.0T rwd with a 6-speed! Not to mention their build quality has vastly improved.
Only cuz its built in Aus lol
+HJZ75driver The ATS is on the Alpha platform, not built in Australia.
I like Jeff, he seems like my kind of friend. Matt does too, but that goes without saying.
Also what is up with the SS name, are they still allowed to use it? Forza Motorsport 6 calls it the "Super Sport" and all the SS badges have disappeared from other cars too in the game due to being of the same initials of the Nazi SS apparently, political correctness strikes again.
+DeaKen002 You're not in the US are you
+draggonhedd mouse over the name, says "UK based"
+DeaKen002 Not sure but the v8 version of the Holden Commodore has been called the "SS" for decades now in Australia. For the G8 I guess they wanted their own name, but this time Chev just went with its Australian model name. Makes more sense so why not.
I was just wondering why the SS logos were removed from the game and if it was affecting the real cars.
draggonhedd What does that have to do with it?
You've got the car, now all you need is some winnie blues, thongs and Oakley speed-dealers and you're a certified Aussie bogan
"I'm glad this car exists". Me too, I just bought one.
Welcome to the club..... That was a great buy...
Getting mines next month 😏😈
@@mike_money71 if you get the automatic.... The best thing you can do before anything..... It's get a transmission tune.... Totally different car I promise you
@@MrQreed note taken will do🤝🤝
gxp were only made in 2009.5 and I would never sell it so Dont know and dont care about re-sale HAHA
If Jeff Daniels and Jason Segel had a son, it would look like this dude.
Who?
dude barely woke up, rolled out of bed, and now has 112k views in a few days. he's probably like... "why didn't I brush my hair?" lol
I dont own a comb
Put Holden badges on it please
No.
+MrTacticalSloth It's funny that on the Chevrolet website you can configure a Chevrolet SS with Holden badges already on it. At least they pay attention to what people want.
+utekineir THANK you.
I have seen one of these with holden badges on it, made me do a double take
for 45,000 Ill take a BMW all day, sorry Matt,, there is a reason there not going to make these in 2017.
Holy shit that car is fast!
Around 6:53, it sounded like you were at the top of 4th gear.
Assuming the manual SS has 3.73 gears, top of 4th gear means at least 140 mph.
Lol as soon as this video started i said 'murica.
Two big ass guys in a manual chevy
You're a big guy, I'm a big guy... there's a big back seat. You can get it in stick. Ruh roh
'HOLDEN' commodore SS. Amazing car
Your a big guy Im a big guy, theres a back seat....My God that can be takin outa context lol
I don't like E35 or the M5 or almost any BMW but I sure as hell like this Chevy.
What? This isn't a bmw.
Christopher Cook If you watched the video, then Matt said that if you like the M5 then you'll like this.
Is this the SS owner The Dude from The Big Lebowski?
Hey Matt, pretty sure you read a lot of comments so I figured I'd tell you how much I love this show. Thank you so much for doing this, even if you don't get much money out of it. So many cool cars, and it's great listening to you talk to guests. Keep it up.
+thescoolestkyline you're welcome!
It's also very reliable and cheap to repair. I love this car. Easy to drive and responsive.
I autocrossed my E39 M5 a bunch.... similar to this car and definitely good fun at an autocross. Very different strategy and execution on traversing the cones compared to most other cars out there. There's something about a big car that has a nice tuned suspension that's fun to drive but not so harsh like a tiny sports car.
after driving my g8 gxp for 7 years I have to say it still feels and looks as new as when I got it... its almost Perfect.. SS i have a feeling is PERFECT
2 of thm probably is like 650 pounds
How cool of that guy to let you drive his car without him planning to
Still kicking myself for buying a Chrysler 300 and not one of these.
Well at least if you lock your keys in your 300, you can unlock it with a coat hanger in about four seconds. Easiest car to steal in America.
Great video as always Matt! Seriously though, how can you say that the SS is a better car than the E39 M5 😝? Sure it may be newer and faster but the build quality is no comparison and the S62 is a far more complex engine with individual throttle bodies, g-sensitive oil pump system, etc. it would be cool if you could review an E39 M5 soon!
Just thought I'd put some info here for everyone asking in the comments.
This car is designed and built in Australia by GM Holden, and will be discontinued in 2017 due to the closing down of Holden's factories in Australia.
Holden will become a full-importer in Australia, sourcing cars from Chevrolet US, GM South Korea and Opel's factories in Germany and Poland. It's a sad time for the Australian automotive industry as Holden, Ford and Toyota are all closing their factories here in Australia leaving us with zero local car manufacturing.
+alexaescht Remeber that MMA (Mitsubishi) left in 2008 as well. The 380 being a far better car than both Commodore and Falcon, but sadly did not sell.
Being fwd
Your called "TheSmokingTire" and you did not even try to show this car smoking tires. This show is a joke!
It's too bad than the SS doesnt sell well.
also, at 0:33 that resonator box is probably taking away like 20 horsepower.
I know these aren't the most exciting looking cars, but I still find them to be handsome and very desirable, and probably one of the last V8 manual sedans available for the US.
If only I could be approved for another $45k lol. The SS is friggin awesome.
I would consider buying one lol. That over cough cough Camaro 😂
From The Chevrolet Chevelle SS , to The Chevrolet SS.
why did you not fill the guards with rubber😢😢 and its a vf Commodore it's a shame you don't get the ford falcon
Matt,
I'm an e39 M5 owner and I highly respect your opinion. With all due respect you can compare the e39M5 v SS, but it's already been done, see link below:
www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/features/a25248/the-comparison-2003-bmw-m5-versus-2015-chevrolet-ss/
Spoiler alert the SS loses.
I read that article. It's well written, although I disagree with the outcome.
+TheSmokingTire fair enough.
Finally a chevy sedan thats rwd, 6 speed and v8. Thank you Cheverlote ss!!! Its time to get the family sideways.
sadly this is one of those cars that non car people will never understand. They don't get why its so cool. That's why its gonna die :(
what about used 2nd Gen cts v?
so proud to build this car every day!
Looks like a nice car but the MSRP is $46k, not sure if most people willing to buy an American sports sedan at that price. Sure, it's a bargain when you compare the performance to that of the BMW M3, Audi S4, etc. But most people who can afford it are buying it for the name. I thought Chevy is the US govt car company they should make a car a regular Joe six pack can afford. $36-38k would be better price consider when Pontiac failed, they were unloading G8 for $26k
+Vision33r You can find discounts on new leftover 14/15 models in the price range you speak of
+Vision33r You really can't compare the base VE platform G8 (V6, 260HP) or G8 GT( V8, 355HP) to to the VF platform 2014-2016 Chevy SS in terms of price. The V6 G8 (confusing, I know) was a $29k base price, the GT with the 6.0 V8 was $32k base price, and the 6.2 V8 (415HP LS3, same as the SS) G8 GXP was $38k (and a manual was another $900 on top of that)
This is better equipped than the top of the line GXP, which fully loaded was over $40k in 2009. Factor for inflation, and that's about the same as $45k in 2016 dollars.
The G8 GXP had a (comparatively) shit interior, no nav/infotainment, lesser traction control, no backup camera, no rear collision alert, no adaptive cruise control, no self-parking, no magnetic ride control, lesser brakes, and it was on the old, 100 pounds+ heavier, not as stiff VE platform. All it had going for it over the SS is a more aggressive front fascia and hood scoops (countered by an even more bland rear fascia).
Just sayin'.
It's Australian not american
The sticker on my G8 GT was 33k. That was with a smaller engine and an interior that was not nearly as nice as the SS and with not nearly as many bells and whistles. Most reviews say this car is a bargain at sticker price.
To add to the G8 GXP discussion the market for those cars really hasn't been affected much. Only ~1850 gxps were ever made (2009 was the only year) and roughly half of them were manual transmission, the fact of how rare a manual g8 is will probably keep those prices high for a long time.
+Tyler Welken Currently there are even less SS's than GXP's with manuals in them.
+Ralph L I believe it I'm just saying anybody that wants a manual g8 has less than 1000 to choose from unless they modify an auto. Also being officially the most powerful "pontiac" ever produced doesn't hurt.
+Tyler Welken Both are great cars. The G8 has the looks. The SS is the king of the sleeper. Now to find a G8 GXP Firehawk with a manual transmission. There were only a couple of these in the GXP trim.
G8 GXP was way meaner looking. While not as modern on the interior, the exterior blows this away.
nicecar, but not available in europe. Chevy only offer us Corvette, Camaro and Cadillac ATS and CTS under GM Premium cars.
shit...what a nice car !
I about lost it when Matt starts talking about storage space and USB ports :rofl:
Maybe theyer not selling many of them because they dont really try to market the car over here. I barely hear shit about this car. Especially after everything gm has gone through in the recent years. The only gm cars that sell well are models that have been around for a while and theyer trucks. Put this car in motorsports, market some commercials about it, create some hype. Cuz we dont wtf it is otherwise. Even thow its a legend in Australia ,like the camaro is here.
I really love this car. It's just more than I can afford. I can see this being one of those cars that everyone wants to buy used, esp in manual but (as evidence is suggesting) no one wants to fork out for new. Even though the manuals are sadly not selling well new I think they will fetch a good premium over automatics in the used market.
I am also interested in exactly what this guy did to his suspension to get rid of the dead spot. Can this be done without an auto-X alignment (IE an alignment that doesn't consume tires on the highway).
The manuals from what ive gathered are moving: the autos, not as well.
I maxed the front camber adjustment (set screw between knuckle and strut), and a touch of toe out in front. Also added some -camber in the rear and rolled the rear fenders (mostly for future fitments. I.e c5z wheel set).
Its nothing extreme. 10k miles altered between 2 sets neither set is showing any wear to be concerned over.
The wheels mounted when filmed had a signifigant amount of outside shoulder wear from autox on c5 when it didnt have enough -camber.
The ss hasnt seen an autox day since june. But the forecast for the weekend when the filming took place was rainy and cold. I dont fit with a helmet in our miata or c5 with roof on/up.
you ask what other rwd sedan you could get for $45K new with a manual? I can't think of any other model, BUT the SS isnt sold in Canada! Every time I see a G8 I wonder why the SS never replaced it here. There certainly are plenty of chargers and 300s driving around so the market for "American" rwd sedans is still strong.
BMW 335i though that's base price and base in BMW means very base. They make a lot of money on options that are standard on a $20k Kia.
+Russell Robinson wondering the same thing. pretty much every vehicle that isn't a truck or a honda in my town is either a new camaro, mustang, challenger, charger or cadillac.
and we don't get the SS. never even knew it existed.
+Axis Studio 'MURICA!!!
Your a big guy im a bug guy and theres a big back seat ..and you can get it in stick ! Lol
......... in a few months time, i'll have my car sorted to where i'll be somewhat happy with it. Feel free to give it a test drive =D
....In Australia, HSV Grange (the spec'd up version of the Chevy Caprice)
Thanks for doing this review. I've been wanting a good 2015 manual review.
So you apologized to us for overtaking ?
I say thanks for some proper fast driving man, some car's history and future talk is cool but the motor sounds is why most are here.
Too bad many good cars will go away after 2017, this and the Viper are already on the chopping block what else? :[
Perfect donor car for a kit build. Most of the Camaro/corvette goodies, with out the shit your going to throw away.
Matt should review that G37S 6MT sedan parked on that dirt road. They're not quite as quick as a period 335i, but handle well are are much more reliable. If he ever comes to Georgia mine is available
too bad you haven't had the chance to drive the holden maloo......
I have a 2014 SS and yeah it’s auto. But I don’t care it’s fast,fun and they are right it’s fun. It’s a cool dad car. Just wish there was a bit less chrome. Although at least I’m not just another Charger going down the road. 😁
Well if you bought them you would of saved Holden as it was the sales of this in state that killed Holden as only 12000 sold and needed 120000 now gm wants $160 million for the Holden name ass holes as a company wanted to make electric cars here in the old Holden plant and use the Holden name witch is a Australian icon Chevy gm holding the name to ransom I have a the very first redline in the ve
oh man this is going to be good
Aaawwww the last of the Aussie "SS". LS3 great sounding swan song.
The most geuine US review of the Chevy SS. Big back seat for two big guys.....very very funny.
Rear wheel drive V8 Manual transmission !!!!! Words not usually said in the same sentence for under $70K
BIG numbers....Yes it's only a matter of time..... Some day I believe I will be assisting GOVT consolidated revenue.
A dead spot in the steering??? When it's straight?? Extra camber, spacers????
You know with the Aussie dollar so low you guys could buy and freight a set of Commodore SSV wheels from Australia for next to knix.
I have 2016 VF Commodore SSV Redline series 2. Beautiful Car, great to drive fast.
YES many engine upgrades available....Headers, OTR air intakes, full & Cat back exhausts, Superchargers!!!!!
Go mate through some bolt on bits on it and get that HP hhigher.
THis isnt a copy of the Australian Car,, IT IS THE AUSTRALIAN CAR,, MADE HERE 100% Australian and shipped to America Left Hand Drive. there was 3 more powerfull models America didnt get.WE made these cars for 40 years and every model would smoke the Z/28 or Trans ams. I am Australian and have a 1982 Z/28 and an SS commodore. The Z/28 305 i have had since 1999 is pethetic but looks great. ALSO the M5 mentioned is 3 times the price of that Commodore and un reliable. Good Video