A Landslide Just Blocked a Major River in Canada; Now 20,000 are at Risk

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  • @GeologyHub
    @GeologyHub  2 місяці тому +374

    Once the landslide dam bursts, it has a chance of creating a major disaster. Please see this video’s description for official evacuation and hazard maps.

    • @stephenrickstrew7237
      @stephenrickstrew7237 2 місяці тому +9

      Please fix the sound it’s almost impossible to listen to .. Thanks..

    • @thecatalyst6212
      @thecatalyst6212 2 місяці тому +30

      It sounds normal?

    • @ninemoonplanet
      @ninemoonplanet 2 місяці тому +17

      The Fraser River is also an intertidal river, if this slide kicks off the worst way, all along the river systems will be, once again, flooded. I saw reports on the slide, but nothing about the geology or the previous slide risks, nor this possible flood risk.
      Thank you.

    • @doomnova1946
      @doomnova1946 2 місяці тому

      www.emergencyinfobc.gov.bc.ca/event/31july24a/
      Flood watch was just extended as I expected to the rest of the Fraser river south of Hope BC. As a person in the lower mainland if you need to go anywhere near the Fraser check the news before you go near it. Most of the Fraser River in Metro Vancouver is at or near sea level and is the flood plain for the Fraser River. There is no garuentee the levies will hold if it goes.
      reposting to the pin so the watch does not get lost in the comments.

    • @chadsimmons6347
      @chadsimmons6347 2 місяці тому +4

      When that mess breaks loose? Wow the video will get 10-billion views!! (thankx-professor)

  • @James-xu3vc
    @James-xu3vc 2 місяці тому +598

    On behalf of all Canadians, thanks for covering this significant event.
    ❤😢

    • @aick
      @aick 2 місяці тому +2

      On behalf of the planet earth and the long-term survival of most species: Ha ha!

    • @patrickglaser1560
      @patrickglaser1560 2 місяці тому +9

      Huh? News occurs in Canadia? Who knew

    • @ocnblizzard4764
      @ocnblizzard4764 2 місяці тому +1

      Lol!

    • @thechrisandphaedrusshow
      @thechrisandphaedrusshow 2 місяці тому +5

      @@patrickglaser1560 Yeah it really doesn't. Sometimes a dog takes a poop. And every now and then the wind blows.

    • @aick
      @aick 2 місяці тому +6

      @@thechrisandphaedrusshow And once every 10 years they find a mass grave of indigenous kids by an old schoolhouse!

  • @jimmyjames2022
    @jimmyjames2022 2 місяці тому +180

    Great analysis. Awhile back I worked as technologist for BC GOV when there was a landslide near Tumbler Ridge in Northern BC that blocked the Murray River for a few days in 1990. Which we investigated. A large lake developed all the way back to the Murray Falls. When the river broke through the 10m of blockage there was a huge set of rapids as it eroded through the debris, with a subsequent flood downstream affecting a number of properties. This Chilcotin River blockage is more dangerous and for sure the Fraser River downstream shores are at risk. I worry about the potential for larger slides in that location following the erosion of the current slide toe and the scale of flooding that could occur after.

    • @ninemoonplanet
      @ninemoonplanet 2 місяці тому +13

      Especially if the tributaries also get higher volumes of rain.
      Add in the intertidal river basin of the Fraser and "unpredictable" is an understatement.

    • @thomasharper4166
      @thomasharper4166 2 місяці тому +8

      I was working at the mine at the time!

    • @jimmyjames2022
      @jimmyjames2022 2 місяці тому

      @@thomasharper4166 hopefully you weren't out at the dump that failed Golder had geotech drills operating there

    • @JS-jh4cy
      @JS-jh4cy 2 місяці тому

      Yes how is the liberals going to blame this on climate change due to Canadians driving to work everyday

    • @Abbittibbi
      @Abbittibbi 2 місяці тому

      So you BC tech, will you now tell us residents of BC the truth about logging taking down the roots of trees that holds the banks together, and when very heavy rain, like we had 2 days before this happen, takes the land down. Huh? The same bunches of technocrat that allows loggers to get more than what the forest gives, turning this place into a wasteland?

  • @EnlightnMe48
    @EnlightnMe48 2 місяці тому +656

    THIS is the man I trust when I need to evacuate. When he says "s**ts gone bad" I trust his judgement.

    • @bradbutcher3984
      @bradbutcher3984 2 місяці тому +7

      He talks mostly about things that have already happened..... how's he gonna tell you before you're f-ed. 😂 He will certainly tell us about it afterwards.

    • @DonLoco3
      @DonLoco3 2 місяці тому +4

      Same

    • @rockzalt
      @rockzalt 2 місяці тому +13

      There was at least one man who didn't move out of the region when they knew Mt. Helens volcano was going to erupt.

    • @grayhatjen5924
      @grayhatjen5924 2 місяці тому

      ​@@bradbutcher3984 Learning about things that have already happened is literally how you mitigate future risk, how you keep people safe.
      I hope to hell you and nobody you care about are in the way of this thing when it goes, because people are going to die. Full stop.

    • @dna3930
      @dna3930 2 місяці тому +4

      Same here! If I see or read something I find him.
      I also tell.people to look him up.

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 2 місяці тому +230

    I appreciate your serious but measured and non-hysterical presentation of various geologic hazards.

    • @richardthetroll6758
      @richardthetroll6758 2 місяці тому +2

      I myself got a Bonner as well . 😊.. thought I was the only 😊🎉

    • @lotharschiese8559
      @lotharschiese8559 2 місяці тому +1

      WHAT? The shit is gonna hit the fan at any hour, day or night.

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      @@lotharschiese8559 That is what the media want you to feel ever since 9/11. Stop giving in to fear...

    • @jimmcintosh9045
      @jimmcintosh9045 2 місяці тому +1

      Must be time for dramatic Silki to pop up!

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 2 місяці тому

      Easy to understand when thought has gone into a script.

  • @xBaRLoGx
    @xBaRLoGx 2 місяці тому +23

    This exact scenario happened in my town of Tbilisi, capital of Georgia back in 2015. A massive landslide occurred due to super heavy rainfall and it had blocked a small river about 15km from city center. Nobody had any idea what was happening, no warnings whatsoever. Everything happened almost instantly. 20 people lost their lives and/or went missing along with most zoo animals which also got flooded. It was a nightmare

  • @ChiliBuRevolution
    @ChiliBuRevolution 2 місяці тому +65

    I reside in Chilanko Forks and the slide is 600m wide and 30m deep and it is about an hours drive down river from where I live, seen the latest aerial photos and video and it looks like it is slowly eating to the left side of the slide,
    for the record "Nagwentled," the Tsilhqot’in (Chilcotin) name for Farwell Canyon, means "landslides across the river."
    this has happened before and will happen again, this area was part of the Hanceville fire complex back in 2017, over 500,000 HA of that one fire of the 3 that surrounded us that summer and this made the soil hydrophobic in which it does not absorb moisture, coupled with recent heavy rainfall mother nature does what she does,
    blessings to all effected
    🙏
    Non Ducor Duco

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ 2 місяці тому +10

      This feels like a _very_ pertinent example as to why we should pay at least some attention to geomythology

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      @@StuffandThings_ **Geology. It's not a myth...

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      Thank you for the information. Especially the hydrophobic part. Didn't know that.

    • @Jleslie2011
      @Jleslie2011 2 місяці тому +9

      This reminds me of the frank slide, and the indigenous name for the mountain translating to "the mountain that moves". It's essential to rely upon indigenous knowledge, considering they've lived here for a significantly longer geologic timescale than colonization

    • @tedlivermore6955
      @tedlivermore6955 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Jleslie2011What knowledge of geology do "indigenous" have that "colonizers" dont have?

  • @ztublackstaff
    @ztublackstaff 2 місяці тому +55

    AS a BC resident thank you for following this. :)

  • @AudreyF2010
    @AudreyF2010 2 місяці тому +47

    I live in upper Fraser River region and have driven Highway 1 (TransCanada), which goes through the Fraser canyon many times.
    This is truly a significant event that we are all watching, especially as this weekend is a holiday weekend due to the civic holiday on Monday, August 5.
    As you mentioned, people should NOT drive through the Fraser canyon.
    The discharge of the Fraser River, especially at narrow points like Hell's Gate, cannot fully be appreciated unless you check water gauge information. I have seen a bathometric scan done by a professor at Simon Fraser University and it was mindblowing.
    Further, my former Geology instructor noted there is faulting throughout the canyon, and reasons why rock scaling is done on a regular basis. He does not trust it's stability should "the big one" hit or even a less significant quake.

    • @danhelwig
      @danhelwig 2 місяці тому +3

      A truly under estimated area with a scale so enormous that like the Grand Canyon or Yosemite is difficult to quantify.

    • @impunitythebagpuss
      @impunitythebagpuss 2 місяці тому

      Stay safe everyone! Watching from Newfoundland!

  • @colourfab
    @colourfab 2 місяці тому +35

    One of my best friends lives in Lillooet, which is halfway along the proposed path of the possible flood. I've been there a couple of times on vacation, and also thought of moving there. This is terribly worrying news. At least her house is up a mountainside, but the town itself is at river level. If the "downtown" is destroyed, it'll be true devastation. Praying for everyone who lives in the area of the possible flood.

    • @gund89123
      @gund89123 2 місяці тому

      I know I friend who lives in Kamaloops.

    • @HavingAnAverageWeeke
      @HavingAnAverageWeeke Місяць тому

      The Lillooet townsite is nowhere near the river level.

  • @user-wk1mw9nj3i76
    @user-wk1mw9nj3i76 2 місяці тому +59

    Amazingly dramatic situation. Your non-hyped delivery gives the evacuation order more credibility. Thank you.

    • @djknox2
      @djknox2 2 місяці тому

      The only way you would hear about this on the CBC is if a native community is at risk; then it will be national news highlighting how global warming caused by the White man is hurting indigenous populations in Western Canada. Seriously - no joking.

    • @harrycooper5231
      @harrycooper5231 2 місяці тому

      I live downstream on the Fraser, in Vancouver. This has been on CBC Radio Canada all day. They're warning Hope residents, the first major population center that will be hit, to be ready to evacuate. It's expected the water will take 10 to 12 hours to reach Hope. I'm another 60 miles downstream and will definitely go check out the river if the dam bursts.

  • @srf2112
    @srf2112 2 місяці тому +252

    Mother Nature has her own schedule. Stay safe Canadian neighbors.

    • @dlo111
      @dlo111 2 місяці тому +3

      Thank you. 🇨🇦 ❤ 🇺🇲

    • @Abbittibbi
      @Abbittibbi 2 місяці тому +5

      Not mother nature, logging did that...

    • @richardthetroll6758
      @richardthetroll6758 2 місяці тому +2

      People stink in Canada.. that's what my papaw told me.. 😮

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      @@Abbittibbi No the lack of logging built up the deadwood created by pine beetles that foreigners brought here...... I already heard the Jasper Parks planner explain everything, including the fact that is a fire-based ecosystem. NATURE. The natives knew it long before any of us got here and they did their own controlled burnings and took care of the forest, as critters like FOLIAGE, NOT DEAD TREES.
      Your enviro-campaigns caused this DIRECTLY.

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      @@richardthetroll6758 People stink everywhere. Your pawpaw tree works for CNN :P

  • @freedombro6502
    @freedombro6502 2 місяці тому +5

    Your title is significantly more informative then cbc, city news, etc.
    Your video is even more informative.
    Thank you

  • @eetuthereindeer6671
    @eetuthereindeer6671 2 місяці тому +24

    As someone living just 9000 kilometers away i appreciate this video about our local struggles

    • @billboyd03
      @billboyd03 2 місяці тому +3

      Stay safe!
      You never know.😂

    • @MrLoobu
      @MrLoobu 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@billboyd03Yes I do, it's impossible that this happen to my river. If our dam broke it would be pretty cool though.

    • @gragor11
      @gragor11 2 місяці тому

      Yes, I'm worried that I will be washed away off the hillside here on Central Vancouver Island. Not going to let any of those Vancouverite Refugees land ashore here though.
      What a bunch of drivel.

  • @3172bees
    @3172bees 2 місяці тому +401

    The temptation to dig gravel to pan later is strong

    • @nitsudocsicnarf347
      @nitsudocsicnarf347 2 місяці тому +21

      A lot of prospectors make videos up that way.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому +40

      Dan Hurd will be there, after the fact.

    • @interstellarsurfer
      @interstellarsurfer 2 місяці тому +20

      The flood will sort everything out for you.

    • @kennethhigdon1159
      @kennethhigdon1159 2 місяці тому +8

      @@ThatOpalGuyDan the Man

    • @karenneill9109
      @karenneill9109 2 місяці тому +8

      @@ThatOpalGuyI think one of his claims is on the Chilcotin, isn’t it?

  • @randiescott
    @randiescott 2 місяці тому +22

    Great video and informative commentary.
    A layman’s consideration of the current Chilcotin River disaster…
    News of the massive landslide at the Farwell Canyon on the Chilcotin River is now beginning to sink in. The debris field is described as 30m deep and 600m long causing the river to back up behind the collapse resulting in the riven to cease flowing downstream from the slide.
    I read that the flow of the Chilcotin River was previously measured at 200 cubic meters per second which, over the course of 24 hours is 17,280,000 cubic meters of water backing up into what is now an upstream lake 6 km long.
    It seems to me that such a backup is unsustainable and one of for things can happen:
    1) The backup will suddenly overflow the blockage and make a path downstream.
    2) The backup will overwhelm the blockage and suddenly burst through it.
    3) The backup will begin to cut a path through the blockage and cut a quick and ever-enlarging swath downstream.
    4) A controlled (extremely tall order) release of the backup through the blockage.
    One thing is for certain, time is of the essence and every moment that elapses will see an extraordinary increase in the volume of the backup.
    I have been following official government reports and information is becoming more available but is subject to very controlled messaging. I am sure there is a flurry of activity as officials, geotechnical and other engineering specialties, etc. technically assessing the situation and considering what possible action may be undertaken.
    I pray I am wrong, but regardless of what actions occur, I think the Province should brace itself for a catastrophic result with tremendous ecological consequences. At some point, all that backup and accumulated debris will make its way downstream to the Fraser River to Hope and then through the Fraser Valley to the Gulf of Georgia.
    Emergency Info BC:
    www.emergencyinfobc.gov.bc.ca/event/31july24a/

  • @MikkellTheImmortal
    @MikkellTheImmortal 2 місяці тому +107

    This is in line of my house. If the water is not released slowly soon we will be in way bigger trouble than when the Abbotsford pumps failed.
    There are far too many important things in the path of destruction to lose all at once and that includes but is not limited to the CN and CP railways, bridges, HWY 1, High tension powerline supports and the live lines.
    And you better believe that the damage of a sudden collapse of that natural dam will reach into the lower Fraser. And that's just from debris. The rush of water if it strikes at high slack tide will break things in Vancouver.
    For reference I am a geology student, and have been studying nothing but landslides for the past year.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 2 місяці тому +5

      Take care. Safety is first.

    • @schoolingdiana9086
      @schoolingdiana9086 2 місяці тому +7

      My graduate class on Climate Policy just covered that lake/mudslide in Peru in 1942. I was shocked. Why isn’t that taught in all high schools?

    • @normansawatzky4778
      @normansawatzky4778 2 місяці тому +22

      ​@@schoolingdiana9086...because the powers at be don't really care about education. They are more concerned with indoctrination...savvy?

    • @thewatcher7823
      @thewatcher7823 2 місяці тому +10

      My guess is they want to encourage more people to participate in working to buy a house and pay taxes to build all this stuff rather than face the question what happens if it all gets wiped away by nature.

    • @jakeaurod
      @jakeaurod 2 місяці тому +7

      @@normansawatzky4778 Indoctrination like calling it an "Act of God" or "God's Will" and "God works in mysterious ways" and "It's all part of God's plan" and asking people to pray for the affected?

  • @valentinsantiago277
    @valentinsantiago277 2 місяці тому +249

    I hope someone sets up a camera at the dam and the slide and downstream to catch all of this. That would be so cool.

    • @JLFinnie123
      @JLFinnie123 2 місяці тому +17

      Not so cool if you have a riverside property

    • @eugenetswong
      @eugenetswong 2 місяці тому +1

      It would be great if we
      ##EDIT##
      I see that I accidentally submitted this comment when it was unfinished. I think that I thought that it would be cool if we could use drones to watch the water burst the dam, and then watch the destruction unfold, and also explore both dry river beds.
      I know that there are valuables and interesting formations. The Fraser is super deep.

    • @tippyc2
      @tippyc2 2 місяці тому +45

      @@JLFinnie123 If your stuff is going to get destroyed anyway, you might as well get some vids out of it.

    • @jbarnhart2774
      @jbarnhart2774 2 місяці тому +24

      I am so freaking hoping somebody sets up a camera there to watch it. I feel like there has to be some either geology professors or maybe amateur geologists near there that would want to study the collapse enough to set up camera. I sure hope so anyway, because I would really love to see just how it gives way.

    • @graham2631
      @graham2631 2 місяці тому

      Puny humans always worried about their crap.

  • @basara5496
    @basara5496 2 місяці тому +11

    Thanks to one of the tow operator shows that air in the US on "The Weather Channel" (Highway Through Hell), over the last decade its viewers have come to appreciate the people in the Frasier valley. Definitely, the show has gotten more people than you would ever think to know something about places like Spuzzum, Hope, Abbottsford, and Chilliwack. I hope the tow operators and truckers (some of which have bounced between both jobs) of the valley are able to get their families and equipment to a safe height, because they will be sorely needed once the floodwaters pass - and some of them are dangerously close to the water and almost lost their businesses in the floods a few years ago that wrecked the "Coq" highway and the canyon highway. Not to mention that the potential deluge might be high enough to destroy tens of kilometers of the rail line linking Vancouver to the rest of the country.

  • @TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx
    @TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx 2 місяці тому +29

    Thanks as always, Geology Hub. My goodness! To everyone near the river, and especially downstream of it, *evacuate* ! Don't be stubborn!

  • @luannvondracek439
    @luannvondracek439 2 місяці тому +59

    The Frazier River does run into Vancouver. Thanks for sharing this news. Would never had heard about it otherwise .

    • @sharroon7574
      @sharroon7574 2 місяці тому +24

      *Fraser

    • @T410ce
      @T410ce 2 місяці тому +6

      @@sharroon7574I clicked on your reply hoping against hope that it was someone correcting the spelling…😂

    • @johnmarino2583
      @johnmarino2583 2 місяці тому +5

      Word Police , be careful of your speling

    • @doomnova1946
      @doomnova1946 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johnmarino2583 Yes we shall stuff your fungers in de typewriter and start tapping away to jou learn em. =p

    • @ExWEIMan
      @ExWEIMan 2 місяці тому +12

      @@johnmarino2583 Named after Simon Fraser the great North West Company explorer. Have some respect.

  • @pmichaelhayes
    @pmichaelhayes 2 місяці тому +56

    I'm only 3-4 hours away! How crazy it is going to be when that lets go! If I knew a safe spot to watch what a sound and show that is going to be!
    10 years ago just 1/4 mile from my home a culvert in a 50' ravine got blocked by debris. We were having record rain fall in a 48 hr period. I drove over this section of the road and water had completely filled the ravine and had started running over the road. I got home and didn't think twice about it and not 5 minutes after I got home I heard what sounded like a freight train across the street! Mind you this was about a 1/4 mile away from me! The road completely washed out and everything in the ravine was washed about a 1/2 mile out into the bay. Few days later I walked out on the beach on low tide and found chunks of asphalt and debris 100+ feet out on the beach.
    This washout was tiny compared to what is going to happen when this lets go! I'll tell you, there was nothing left in that ravine. It looked like a D9 dozer went through there. Trees and all gone, just rock and dirt left.

    • @lotharschiese8559
      @lotharschiese8559 2 місяці тому +3

      Hydraulic mining?

    • @kenyonbissett3512
      @kenyonbissett3512 2 місяці тому +3

      I was thinking the same thing about a safe place to watch, maybe a helicopter 🚁

  • @grahamkearnon6682
    @grahamkearnon6682 2 місяці тому +12

    I live in BC & I have to say you have produced the best explanation for the situation, keep it up!

  • @annabodhi38
    @annabodhi38 2 місяці тому +3

    There was more information presented here than there was on the news last night. Thank you. Your hard work and dedication are greatly appreciated.

  • @nousername102
    @nousername102 2 місяці тому +34

    First time I've seen you cover something that is while not my backyard. But fairly close. What a lot of folks are forgetting, that the Fraser Canyon doesn't end in Hope. It carries on into two major metro areas. The Fraser Valley and Metro Vancouver. Total population; Three Million.

    • @ninemoonplanet
      @ninemoonplanet 2 місяці тому +6

      The Fraser River is also an intertidal river, if this goes wrong at high tide, won't be good. 😖

    • @AlligatorSoup
      @AlligatorSoup 2 місяці тому +5

      Tell that to the stupid Reddit Vancouver mods who deleted the post this morning telling of this event.

    • @doomnova1946
      @doomnova1946 2 місяці тому +3

      @@AlligatorSoup That sub is a mess and has been. I ignored it when I heard about it till I got home then read more into it and saw the flow rate drop below the block and was going "oh shit this could be unstateably bad". Watches now run down to the coast. I am guessing they ran the numbers on the levies and are less sure it will hold than they were before.

    • @KenLord
      @KenLord 2 місяці тому +4

      Hope is a key location because the narrow river really widens out. That will squelch the surge downstream of Hope.

  • @Liam40
    @Liam40 2 місяці тому +108

    My major concern would be the resulting flooding taking out Highway 97. This causes SEVERE repercussions for areas north of the washout. We are presently already suffering fuel shortages due to Highway 16 being closed due to the Jasper fires, but this has a real potential to jack some stuff up.
    Thanks for taking note of us lowly northern Canadians, the news often glazes our stories over, but not only do you cover the Nazko cone, but you also give us short-lead-time news videos on what is actually almost feeling like a side-story among the forest fire headlines. It's slowly getting traction due to the severity level creeping higher and higher,
    Also. God damn. This area is known for good panning. I can only IMAGINE what that riverbed be like.

    • @mrparrehesian1742
      @mrparrehesian1742 2 місяці тому +3

      Panning was my 6th thought, should create some opportunities later on for sure. Be safe and be prepared.

    • @Berubium
      @Berubium 2 місяці тому +7

      Highway 97 doesn’t go anywhere near the Fraser River downstream of this landslide location so it’ll be ok. The only places where the highway is near the Fraser are between Prince George & Williams Lake; all of which is upstream from where the Chilcotin meets the Fraser.

    • @chrisvickers7928
      @chrisvickers7928 2 місяці тому +10

      Highway 97 is well east of the Fraser River until Williams Lake and that is well upstream rom where the Chilcotin enters the Fraser. the first major issue downstream will be the town of Lillooet and the bridge across the Fraser for Highway 99.Further downstream there could be washouts in the Fraser Canyon which could damage Highway 1 and the CN and CP mainlines.

    • @susanjaeger9851
      @susanjaeger9851 2 місяці тому +12

      Not a time to be damning God.
      Just Sayin

    • @elvisisalive2716
      @elvisisalive2716 2 місяці тому

      There is no fuel shortage at all the Jasper fires did not impact this.

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy 2 місяці тому +3

    This is a fantastic explanation as to the landslide on the Chilcotin River! It’s the first time I have seen the showing of the whole area of instability and previous collapses.
    Excellent!

  • @mrbbqcraig
    @mrbbqcraig 2 місяці тому +10

    I'm with the heavy rain fall finally tipping the balance...I live in Japan and there are frequent landslides connected to heavy rain...the trees burning down and exposing the soil is definitely a contribution.... cheers to you Mr G 🤟✨

    • @mrbbqcraig
      @mrbbqcraig 2 місяці тому +3

      @@DaisyDay.-pm2cf exactly, good memory... especially the southern region ‼️

  • @deborahferguson1163
    @deborahferguson1163 2 місяці тому +19

    Thank you for posting about this GH! This could be pretty bad for the communities downstream…. Scary!

  • @davidcooke8005
    @davidcooke8005 2 місяці тому +81

    This sucks for the folks downstream but if there is a bright side, this is going to teach us so much about the Scabland megaflood 16,000 years ago. I can't wait to see the drone footage when the dam blows a gasket.

    • @WestCoastWheelman
      @WestCoastWheelman 2 місяці тому

      @@davidcooke8005 the Fraser has had some historical glacial outburst floods of it's own, evidence is only recently coming to light after extensive LiDAR surveys. There's some good SFU lectures about it available free online.

    • @ClariNerd
      @ClariNerd 2 місяці тому +9

      Landsat datasets will be great too, as we see the recovery over the next few decades

    • @carlantonson7760
      @carlantonson7760 2 місяці тому +2

      I don't think that 'brightside' is the best term. We live in a time where technology affords us the great ability to learn despite the devastation that will result. I hope they have the area 'instrumented to the nines' so we can learn more than we knew before and limit the damage.

    • @CODENAMEDERPY
      @CODENAMEDERPY 2 місяці тому +2

      Eh, it won't teach that much about the megafloods. Different geology, and different rocks, and it's not even within several orders of magnitude in scale. But it will be interesting to learn about regardless.

  • @jimthain8777
    @jimthain8777 2 місяці тому +3

    As someone who lives in the Lower Mainland, I thank you for this analysis of what has happened, and what could still happen.

  • @jfmezei
    @jfmezei 2 місяці тому +3

    Had not heard of this , there are so many diasters in Canada right now, but this is big. Have now found the alerts, evacuations etc. Thanks for the big heads up.

  • @ladyofthemasque
    @ladyofthemasque 2 місяці тому +4

    Also, I have sent an email to Governor Inslee asking him to start helping prep the paperwork to get people, equipment, and materials up there to help out. Washington State probably can't do anything to help our Canadian neighbors prior to the flood, but we CAN help them rebuild afterward. A lot of folks from around the whole world reached out to my home state after the disastrous Oso landslide, and I think it's only right for us to reach out today to help those in the Chilcotin River Valley just to our north.

  • @iver7473
    @iver7473 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for this report!! We have a long weekend this weekend in BC and lots of people are going camping up in Hope and along logging roads. Will definitely send this to my friends

  • @tthappyrock368
    @tthappyrock368 2 місяці тому +4

    May everyone be safe! Thank you GH for covering this!

  • @hertzer2000
    @hertzer2000 2 місяці тому +79

    OMG, someone better get the flood on camera!

  • @gbprime2353
    @gbprime2353 2 місяці тому +14

    Someone needs to set up a remote controlled camera on high ground overlooking the downstream section of the landslide. It has the potential to be both life saving and epic footage!

    • @kenyonbissett3512
      @kenyonbissett3512 2 місяці тому +1

      On a gimble as the ground is gonna shake when that lets loose

  • @peterrollinson-lorimer
    @peterrollinson-lorimer 2 місяці тому +7

    Alarming, I hope everyone will be safe. Thanks for the clear explanation.

  • @WestCoastWheelman
    @WestCoastWheelman 2 місяці тому +32

    This is nuts. Not just for the people affected but this could really mess with this year's salmon run.

    • @g.nicholson7568
      @g.nicholson7568 2 місяці тому +9

      This salmon run was hit hard by the slide in the Frazer 4 years ago. They were hoping for it to rebound this year.

    • @jlt131
      @jlt131 2 місяці тому +2

      hopefully it'll let go early, before it gets too dangerous and before it affects the salmon. i don't think they start running for another couple of months.

    • @leahnichol6665
      @leahnichol6665 2 місяці тому +2

      When do the fingerlings fun down to the ocean? And there are several species of salmon which run at different times.

    • @HubertofLiege
      @HubertofLiege 2 місяці тому

      They should mine the pebbles and get something out of it as the salmon are toast

  • @s.terris9537
    @s.terris9537 2 місяці тому +17

    I love the calm reporting about this scary event. I can tell this is Canadian news, and not US media. May all be safe.

    • @nanabuster7285
      @nanabuster7285 2 місяці тому +3

      You can’t believe a thing coming from Canadian mainstream news. This guy must be an independent.

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      @@nanabuster7285 Yes he is. I'm in AB and I haven't seen him yet. Our media freaked everyone out about Muslims for 15 years straight, up until Justin Trudeau started saying, "Islamophobia." Our media is getting to be just as bad as the states.

    • @logan735
      @logan735 2 місяці тому

      hah I promise official canadian news is just as fear mongering as the us, all they spoke about today was the US

    • @leahnichol6665
      @leahnichol6665 2 місяці тому +2

      His description states he graduated from Arizona State University and he seems to be still operating from Arizona. I am grateful for his scientific discipline.

  • @newcoyote
    @newcoyote 2 місяці тому +10

    I live on the Fraser. High enough but man we have been hit. The lower Fraser had bad flooding a few years ago and Lytton was destroyed by fire and still not rebuilt for those people.

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist 2 місяці тому +1

      @@newcoyote - The heatwave that year at Lytton was absolutely insane for that far north. Would have been an extremely hot day in Phoenix, Arizona. 49.4 C as I recall ... crazy.
      Was a hair under 47C down here in Portland that summer. Nuts.

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ 2 місяці тому +3

      @@cacogenicist The weather in the PNW has been all kinds of wacky the past decade or so... people forget how climatically unstable this region can get

    • @newcoyote
      @newcoyote 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cacogenicist 49.6/121.3F I was in Lytton when it was going up in flames. I just happened to be there. I have dashcam video.

  • @mtevilone
    @mtevilone 2 місяці тому +2

    In 1959 a similar event happened here in Montana downstream of Hebgen Lake. We call it Quake Lake. They moved equipment in to stabilize the debris blocking the canyon, to slow down the erosion of the slide material. Eventually the water will erode the rock, but with no sudden collapse. I would assume that something similar can be done for this slide as well.

  • @itzcaseykc
    @itzcaseykc 2 місяці тому +9

    Praying that the people and their animals in that area will be kept safe as they evacuate in a timely and orderly fashion.

  • @jimmiswift3232
    @jimmiswift3232 2 місяці тому +1

    You did a good job! Explaining the slide. God Bless Canada!🇨🇦

  • @DodgeCrazed
    @DodgeCrazed 2 місяці тому +3

    I live less than an hour from this site. Thank you for covering this with your fact based style that you do so well.
    Some more information for those who are curious.
    The Chilcotin river is running at 200 cubic meters of water per second. For scale that is 7000 baskets balls per second of water that is currently being blocked up.

    • @Skweaks22
      @Skweaks22 2 місяці тому

      Haha hey bud go to bed😝

    • @leahnichol6665
      @leahnichol6665 2 місяці тому

      Do take care. I am far downstream.

  • @ceciliakilgour5744
    @ceciliakilgour5744 2 місяці тому +2

    This is the most information I’ve been able to find. Thanks

  • @mundanestuff
    @mundanestuff 2 місяці тому +8

    The video from this deluge is going to be epic and we'll learn much from it, hopefully there aren't any casualties!

  • @anitamitchell3452
    @anitamitchell3452 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks GH. Looking forward for an update on this situation. ❤

  • @doricetimko5403
    @doricetimko5403 2 місяці тому +5

    Never underestimate the power of Mother Nature

  • @sessionbread
    @sessionbread 2 місяці тому +1

    Actually a really decent analysis

  • @daltongalloway
    @daltongalloway 2 місяці тому +13

    Damn imagine waking up one morning and your local river is just completely dry!

    • @lindaj5492
      @lindaj5492 2 місяці тому +2

      Salmon mommas gonna have to relocate 😢

    • @1Corinthians15_1-4
      @1Corinthians15_1-4 2 місяці тому +2

      Tomorrow is not promised.

  • @bradenbeattie8216
    @bradenbeattie8216 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you sir 🤙. Informative and to the point

  • @sabishiihito
    @sabishiihito 2 місяці тому +70

    Well, didn't have this on my bingo card for today.

    • @sleepydoppy8516
      @sleepydoppy8516 2 місяці тому +5

      At the rate of strange thinks keep happening I’ll never win a bingo round.

    • @wormwood6424
      @wormwood6424 2 місяці тому

      🤣👍

    • @livinginvancouverbc2247
      @livinginvancouverbc2247 2 місяці тому +1

      Fill your pockets with Bingo Dabbers. They'll help you float and the helicopters can see the bright dye in the water.

  • @toma110363
    @toma110363 2 місяці тому +1

    Haha. I live in BC and was looking for an update on youtube and you were number 1. Great coverage. I've seen lots of your vids before from all over the world and love them. Thanks

  • @string-bag
    @string-bag 2 місяці тому +9

    Great video, thank you. I hope no more people are injured.

  • @AtomicCoyote161
    @AtomicCoyote161 2 місяці тому +23

    Is there any possibility of doing a controlled release of the water, as there was after a landslide blocked the Madison River in Montana after the Hebgen Lake Earthquake in 1959?

    • @ninemoonplanet
      @ninemoonplanet 2 місяці тому +7

      Unfortunately no, access is difficult at best, slopes are unstable, and the amount of moisture in the ground, under unstable slopes make it unpredictable.

    • @swainscheps
      @swainscheps 2 місяці тому +1

      Isn’t the most likely outcome that the landslide blockage erodes away gradually rather than suddenly?

    • @entropybentwhistle
      @entropybentwhistle 2 місяці тому +6

      @@swainschepsOnce the water finds a trickle route through the blockage, the material is eroded very quickly.

    • @erickrobertson7089
      @erickrobertson7089 2 місяці тому +4

      That was my thought as well. I guess I'd blast a small channel and let the force of water take care of the rest. That might be dangerous but waiting for the blockage to give is dangerous.
      Dunno.

    • @lindaj5492
      @lindaj5492 2 місяці тому +4

      Drones delivering a succession of small explosive charges?

  • @CKNate1
    @CKNate1 2 місяці тому +7

    I truly hope there’s no loss of life. I also hope they get cameras on this dam asap for when it bursts…

  • @valerieadams6317
    @valerieadams6317 2 місяці тому +2

    I am on the Fraser. However, I live high above. I deliberately chose a home high and away from the river. I have a good view from my front deck. This is scary nature. Take heed of evacuation warnings. Please be safe folks.

  • @jx1659
    @jx1659 2 місяці тому +5

    Thanks for covering this situation. Dealing with one aspect of it at work.

  • @FerdiLouw
    @FerdiLouw 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks a lot for this fast and detailed analysis. It is the best that I can find.

  • @Berubium
    @Berubium 2 місяці тому +10

    Thankfully there is very little development anywhere within 50 metres elevation of the Chilcotin or Fraser River downstream until you reach Hope. I will be watching this very closely. I work for a company that has major pipeline infrastructure that crosses the Fraser River further downstream.

  • @MercifulHunter
    @MercifulHunter 2 місяці тому +9

    Awesome job on the video, you presented alot of good information about this whole situation. The whole mainstream media is not capable of doing anything like this😂😂

  • @capnkwick4286
    @capnkwick4286 2 місяці тому +7

    Something similar happened when an earthquake caused a hillside west of Yellowstone NP. The same situation, with water pooling behind the landslide, had to be dealt with by carving a spillway in the landslide debris so that the water could drain much slower than if it pushed its way through the debris field.

    • @lindaj5492
      @lindaj5492 2 місяці тому +2

      I was just wondering if it might be possible to create an overspill channel, or in some way release water in a controlled way. But location & terrain wouldn’t allow heavy machinery: perhaps small explosives delivered by drones?

    • @ejwerme
      @ejwerme 2 місяці тому +1

      It's purely a coincidence, but the YVO folks talked about the Hebgen Lake 'quake and formation of 'quake lake in their Biscuit Basin report today.
      ua-cam.com/video/BmSLYwwhMeU/v-deo.html

    • @leahnichol6665
      @leahnichol6665 2 місяці тому

      @@lindaj5492Would explosives set off a further slide since that whole mountain side is unstable?

  • @GeomagneticEarthWatch
    @GeomagneticEarthWatch 2 місяці тому +6

    From British Columbia, Thank you

  • @dorothydecesare1607
    @dorothydecesare1607 2 місяці тому +1

    Have been listening to news reports for last 48 hours on this landslide.
    This is the clearest, most concise and informative report I have come across.
    I have just subscribed .
    Hoping that somehow, disaster will be minimized, but respecting the opinion here and knowing that something has got to give, and soon! 😮

  • @kathysmith6413
    @kathysmith6413 2 місяці тому +12

    i have lived in that area and there is no way i would chance that. the rivers there are not for the uneducated or inexperience even with out a major slide like that.

  • @anthonyplayground1402
    @anthonyplayground1402 2 місяці тому +2

    That dry river is full of GOLD

  • @elinope4745
    @elinope4745 2 місяці тому +93

    Stevie Nicks tried to warn us, we just didn't listen long enough...

    • @kennethblain610
      @kennethblain610 2 місяці тому +9

      Mirror in the sky what is love,can the child within my heart rise above....

    • @theartofwanderlust
      @theartofwanderlust 2 місяці тому

      ever heard of Pangea?

    • @aaronsterlind6334
      @aaronsterlind6334 2 місяці тому

      What are you talking about? Oh, what? You think this has something to do with human activity and climate activist garbage. Mountains have slides, always have, always will. Forests have fires, the eco system actually depends on fires, always have, always will. The west coast rain forest climatic zone, gets rain, heavy rain at times. Nothing new here and these things are only a matter of time and their nothing compared to what the earth can do and will do during this magnetic excursion event, another natural cycle. By the way, Voltaire was right when he said, "anything to stupid to be said is sung". Why would anyone ever listen to a musician or a so called celebrity. Court jesters, court fools, all of them.

    • @TimCleese
      @TimCleese 2 місяці тому

      I took my love, I took it down.

    • @Earthneedsado-over177
      @Earthneedsado-over177 2 місяці тому +7

      Landslide made a levee, When the Levee Breaks...

  • @carmenmccauley585
    @carmenmccauley585 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow. This is fascinating. Thank you. Glad I'm not in BC

  • @nwsk3pticalwitch-qr3gv
    @nwsk3pticalwitch-qr3gv 2 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for supplying accurate information on these events. This province is beautiful with many extreme landscapes but with that come natural events which can have catastrophic effects on infrastructure and people

  • @elvisisalive2716
    @elvisisalive2716 2 місяці тому +2

    I drove by there yesterday via Williams lake. The chilcotin will surge soon , she’s legendary. That entire area was wiped out with fires the rain doesn’t get absorbed.

  • @joannecarson5568
    @joannecarson5568 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you, I hadn’t heard of this yet. It sounds like it will have quite an impact.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo 2 місяці тому +2

    This channel has the best detailed information on the topic that I’ve seen.

  • @pmichaelhayes
    @pmichaelhayes 2 місяці тому +3

    Just watched a video of a helicopter flying down the river, and it is a MUST SEE to grasp the magnitude! The size of that land slide is IMMENCE!

    • @heidimueller1039
      @heidimueller1039 2 місяці тому

      Immense. Sorry, do you not have spell check?

    • @pmichaelhayes
      @pmichaelhayes 2 місяці тому

      @@heidimueller1039 Sorry, do you not have anything better to do than troll UA-cam comments looking for grammar and spelling errors?

  • @kellyscott6361
    @kellyscott6361 2 місяці тому

    Your videos are always interesting and it’s great that you take the time to ask viewers to heed the evacuation orders and stay out of high risk areas. I’m sure you’ll keep us up to date on any future developments resulting from this landslide. Thank you!

  • @maurasmith-mitsky762
    @maurasmith-mitsky762 2 місяці тому +19

    Great video. Thanks for sharing

  • @rustyevolution6298
    @rustyevolution6298 2 місяці тому

    Good quality reporting. Factual and detailed, to the point, no unnecessary fluff. I wish more channels were this good.

  • @xwiick
    @xwiick 2 місяці тому +5

    Thanks for all the hard work on these videos!

  • @jackori6685
    @jackori6685 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Timothy. As someone with family in the area, this is concerning news. I have been watching this slide since it happened, from afar of course. Best wishes for you!

  • @chrisvickers7928
    @chrisvickers7928 2 місяці тому +7

    Not many people live immediately down stream of the slide on either the Chilcotin or the Fraser. Lilloette is many miles downstream and should have several hours evacuation notice.

    • @lindaj5492
      @lindaj5492 2 місяці тому +4

      Okay: but what’s their evacuation route? Do roads run along the valley floor? Imagine being stuck in evacuation traffic jam…

    • @johnsheppard314
      @johnsheppard314 2 місяці тому +4

      @@lindaj5492 yep, most all of BC, roads run along valley floors -- it's about the only place there is to put roads.

    • @chrisvickers7928
      @chrisvickers7928 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lindaj5492 With enough warning, Highway 99 can get everyone out of Lillooet in time. Place north of Lillooet should be evacuating now.

  • @citrineelephant6576
    @citrineelephant6576 2 місяці тому +1

    it NEEDS to be emphasized more in mainstream media the domino effect that is wildfires. they need to be more than one off reports and actually educate the public. i wish the absolute best for everyone affected and potentially affected. stay safe out there.

  • @geckoman1011
    @geckoman1011 2 місяці тому +3

    This reminds me a lot of the Oso landslide further south. Although it did not result in a massive flood, although that might be because it was actively managed.

  • @steeplecab
    @steeplecab 2 місяці тому +11

    Something very similar happened 65 years ago in Montana, on the Madison River just west of Yellowstone Park, forming Quake Lake. This was managed in such a way that a channel was cut and there was NOT a catastrophic flood when the river reached it's pool level. There were no major erosion events and streamflow was controlled downstream. Learn from history and your neighbors to the south.

    • @thevilifyingforce
      @thevilifyingforce 2 місяці тому

      That's presuming the mass holds for 3+ weeks. Not sure that fits the timeline for this river.

  • @lylew7
    @lylew7 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this! I look forward to updates!

  • @lukedawg2787
    @lukedawg2787 2 місяці тому +9

    What you can hope for is that the rock holds long enough for the water to breach over it and then start eroding it away. Yes it will erode quickly but will still be much more manageable that it completely failing.

    • @interstellarsurfer
      @interstellarsurfer 2 місяці тому +2

      Overtopping is traditionally how dams fail. It doesn't make anything any better.

    • @lukedawg2787
      @lukedawg2787 2 місяці тому +3

      @@interstellarsurfer a complete failure all at once would be significantly worse than the water overtopping and eroding it away. Not much I agree but still releases less water gradually vs a wall of water.
      Edit: just seen exactly how much rock choked off this river. It was way more than I expected. This will be bad no matter how it plays out

    • @doomnova1946
      @doomnova1946 2 місяці тому

      @@lukedawg2787 The dam is 600-800m wide and 30m deep. I doubt there is much they can do at the risk of it going while heavy equipment gets into it to burst it.

  • @Andrew-qx8kg
    @Andrew-qx8kg 2 місяці тому +2

    This was explained very well!

  • @DonLoco3
    @DonLoco3 2 місяці тому +6

    If this guy says don't go there, do not bloody go there.

    • @jamesstyles8832
      @jamesstyles8832 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, thanks to his calm, informed and measured approach, he has made us all aware of what's at stake. May we wish safety to everyone involved, and stay the bloody hell away. We have to let nature run it's course on this one.

  • @logcu
    @logcu 2 місяці тому

    Never thought I would hear anybody outside of rural BC ever talk about the Chilcotin River, but kinda wild to think I touched the river less than a month ago in a place where it is currently dry. What an unexpected event for a usually quiet part of BC.

  • @oregonbeachdad
    @oregonbeachdad 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you

  • @jeanlaws8210
    @jeanlaws8210 2 місяці тому +1

    I just watched a video of the landslide - it is incredible.

  • @wakcackle3555
    @wakcackle3555 2 місяці тому +4

    Dig a ditch that's small and let it start cutting a path. Continue to maintain the drainage path to begin to equalize the inflow to the temporary lake behind the dam and the flow of the out-letting water. Get it going before the rains come.

    • @renater.540
      @renater.540 2 місяці тому +1

      Dangerous job. Who should be doing this? You??

    • @wakcackle3555
      @wakcackle3555 2 місяці тому

      @@renater.540 I'm not there, but a small effort could save a great deal of problems.
      I don't know if machinery can be gotten there. What is your idea?

    • @renater.540
      @renater.540 2 місяці тому +1

      @@wakcackle3555 I'm not there either and I'm no expert. But I fear that the terrain is very unstable and heavy machinery may lead to unpredictable ground movement.
      Secondly I wonder if a ditch is opened and water is on its way machinery could be removed quickly enough to not being swept away. But, as already mentioned , I'm no expert. Wish I could offer a solution....
      Any how: Sincere wishes for anyone affected (and hopefully not afflicted)

    • @wakcackle3555
      @wakcackle3555 2 місяці тому

      @@renater.540 Plus, there's elevation changes along the way. Not knowing anything about that, any water flows would need to be received and slowed by ponds of near standing water on the way.
      I'm sure there are other problems that we know nothing of. I hope damage can be mitigated, and hopfully avoided.

    • @renater.540
      @renater.540 2 місяці тому

      @@wakcackle3555 So do I

  • @ladyofthemasque
    @ladyofthemasque 2 місяці тому

    As always, a clear analysis of what has happened, and a very clear reminder that safety is always more important than satisfying curiosity. Your opinions are considered trustworthy by most of your viewers *because* of your careful presentations. Thank you!

  • @Madvillayo
    @Madvillayo 2 місяці тому +6

    I never thought about climate change and wildfires being possibly related to increased risk of wildfires until now, great observation and explanation

    • @FuckingChrisKupina
      @FuckingChrisKupina 2 місяці тому

      Climate change is just climate. The more you feed David Suzuki by the BILLIONS, the worse the "climate change" gets. They are having people go around starting wildfires and you think it's because of the very thing you breathe out every breath...
      EDIT: Also, this is a fire-based ecosystem--something the media is too stupid to cover.

  • @moiracneill6478
    @moiracneill6478 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm in BC, it's scary. Not near me, but still! Scary!

  • @snarky_user
    @snarky_user 2 місяці тому +23

    I'd evacuate, no doubt.

  • @willtricks9432
    @willtricks9432 2 місяці тому +1

    Bad news but great information. This channel is top notch, Thanks again

  • @JuandeFucaU
    @JuandeFucaU 2 місяці тому +3

    I saw a whole bunch of beavers running away from this and laughing their asses off.

    • @Bobbycat115
      @Bobbycat115 2 місяці тому

      Somebody said God Dammit so He did.

  • @SH4GN457Y
    @SH4GN457Y 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for mentioning the loss of the tent and raft
    Gone but not forgotten

  • @elmaindiablo
    @elmaindiablo 2 місяці тому +15

    Prayers be with humanity and all those animals in that area ❤

  • @geraldrodneyquintal1865
    @geraldrodneyquintal1865 2 місяці тому +1

    It's good that people have some warnings, I feel bad for the animals that don't 😢

    • @deakhanani
      @deakhanani 2 місяці тому

      What makes you think that The Animal's don't receive warnings? They are Mother Nature's first born. They are more connected to GOD than humans will ever be.