Episode 86: Creationism 101: Do we really need Genesis 1???
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Are young age creationists just hung up on Genesis 1 or is there more to this story? Paul and Todd tackle this vital question by looking through the rest of the Bible to figure out if young age creationism is just an error inflated from one passage or if recent creation is the counsel of the entire scripture. In a hypothetical Bible missing Genesis 1, would Paul and Todd still be young age creationists? Tune in to find out!
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This was rewardingly different. Glad to hear this solid case being made.
Thank you for watching!
Your point about Genesis 5 confirming the continuity of Genesis 1 and 2 is so good! It's amazing that people miss the clear connection.
Thank you Paul & Todd for another informative episode. This just goes to illustrate that the whole of God’s Word is a unity, and compromising on any part necessitates changing other parts (not advised).
The main need for long ages for creation is to deny the fall. No fall - no sin - no need to turn back. Therefore no connection between sin and its consequences; sickness, suffering, extreme weather, famines, war, aging and death. Convoluted and awkward approaches to His word lead to no good outcome. The truth fits.
The other reason (particularly by Christians) is to reconcile evolution with the Bible as if science is exclusive to the latter. Christians are afraid to be labeled as anti-intellectual and anti-science, despite Christians having been at the forefront of scientific discovery since its inception.
Thanks for a very helpful episode. I need to listen again and take notes!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! Keep ‘em coming!
More to come!
Yeah, because folks who don’t believe Genesis 1 also don’t believe in the reliability of scripture at any point along the way. So in their mind, when Moses or Isaiah or Peter or Jesus or Paul quote concepts introduced by Genesis 1, they aren’t reliable, they’re just repeating Genesis 1. They’ll call it something like “working within the available references”. And that exposes they generally don’t actually take much of scripture to be historical at all.
Thanks for the video! 👍
Our pleasure!
Worth noting Job 40:15 'Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee'. Hebrew says 'with' which impies concurrency. Most English translations re-word this so it loses the sense of nearness in the Hebrew.
We know all the beasts and man were made on the 6th day. So, if one is really paying attention to what happened on each day you already know that.
I think that the relative silence on the age of the Earth in the Bible is an Indication of its relative importance. I tend to believe in a younger earth but don’t believe that we can be dogmatic. We can say with certainty that creation week was about 6000 years ago but depending on how you read Genesis, there is compelling evidence that there was substance before creation week. Job 38 tells us about the morning stars singing and the sons of God shouting at the creation. I understand the need to counter evolution but let’s not be too dogmatic on what the Bible is relative silence on. I appreciate you guys and your discussion on this very important topic! (Creation),
Alot preceded the creation story. Right away, " in the beginning ", there may not have been a beginning. Hard to wrap your head around, but the idea of a beginning applies to our individual lives, which will end. To apply a begining and end to time is anthropomorphic. Life itself is on a continuum. We are each a link with a beginning and an end. This reality doesn't apply all things.
If you don’t understand that the Creation account is a type of prophecy that points towards the 7 Spiritual aspects of YHWH, His Moedim, and the Seven Churches of Revelation, you are totally missing out on the meat of the Genesis 1 Scripture. We know the beginning from the end.
Well done on the teaching that Adam and Eve were the first created humans.
I think a lot of false teachings on this topic derive from Genesis 1:28 where God instructs Adam/Eve to 'replenish' the earth. The gap teaching in Genesis 1:1-2 is the domain created for Angels and judgement removed their earthly dominion and handed over to mankind. So the earth does need to be replinished by man, formerly created for Angels.
If Adam evolved from apes and Adam's immediate father is more human-like, then why wasn't Adam's immediate father called the first man? If Adam's immediate father was more ape-like, then it would be a very fast and dramatic one-generation evolution which is very unrealistic. So regardless, Adam has to be the first man if we believe in God's words. Am I missing anything here?
If Adam evolves from apes, how would Adam's immediate father look like? Ape-like? Human-like? Just some thoughts for old-earth-believing Christians to think about.
I think they are thinking some sort of 'Island of Dr Moreaux' moment of special creation (possibly the most coherent would be a reverse Nebuchadnezzar's curse) but we end up with a miraculous special creation(s) which begs the question of why God would choose to do it that way. And then there are generations of inbreeding flaw healings because apes would have had all those inherent decrepitude problems. Not a clean supportable model and not in keeping with a God who drops manna from heaven, makes the sundial go BACKWARDS (lot of energy in that equation) and... a God sent his Son who came, died to take away our sins, and rose again and sittith at the right hand of God.