Why You Need to STOP Playing Premier
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
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In this video I get into the details of the current state of CS2 matchmaking and how poor a job Valve is doing to repair it. We'll talk about concepts like how VAC works, what good anti-cheats do and the dangers of running kernel level anti-cheats. We'll also go over temporary solutions so we can continue to improve at Counter-Strike 2 by playing on other platforms. I hope you enjoyed the video, and if so check out the channel to find more content like this. Thank you for watching.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:43 - How Anti-Cheats Work
1:35 - Dangers of Kernel Programs
2:08 - Faceit
3:04 - Why Play With Anti-Cheat
4:28 - Message to Valve
4:54 - Outro
Twitch: / ryderdie___
Music: www.epidemicsound.com/track/b... - Ігри
one important thing about kernel level anticheats - even if you trust the company enough to not use this against you or your privacy, we have to understand that kernel level ac's are a massive target for eventual hacker groups. For me, the question is not if, but what company and when will get hacked. This level of access to your computer is unrestriced, and games that have hundres of thousands of players are simply a big target. I have to admit, that kernel level anticheats are working far superiorly over the 'normal' ones, but i dont thin thats the right way to go.
You make an excellent point and identified something that I did not know. Thank you for commenting.
@@Ryderdie1
i mean just have your GAMING PC only for GAMING and dont have anything personal information on it and have that anticheat. HAVE OTHER DEVICE THAT YOU DONT HAVE GAMES ON THST FOR PERSONAL STUFF
@@MetalPotato While i can understand your point, i think thats a really bold take. Not everyone, i would even say the overwhelming majority cant afford a possible second PC ONLY for gaming purposes. that's just a waste of money and resources. even if, that's just wishful thinking, as this does not adress the problem in any matter - just the symptoms of the problem.
@@MetalPotatoFurthermore, im not an expert, but with my fairly limited understanding, im not sure if there even is a way to solve this problem. Valve, based on their previous actions, strikes me as a company valuing privacy and liberty. This, same as any other cybersecurity threat is an endless race between security experts and hackers, consuming tons of funds. As of now, no major leak or hack has happened, but this case is the same as with cheating, really. As the person trying to defend the system, you are always one step behind the potential aggresor.
They may introduce a kernel level anticheat, i would even say that due to community pressure they are considering it, but i see it as a last resort move rather than anything else.
I remember there used to be a time where in order to play Prime matchmaking you were *required* to have a phone number attached to your steam account. You were only allowed to change the number once every 6 months and many phone numbers were blocked from the system altogether for being insecure. I've never played with so few cheaters as that time, but eventually they removed the phone number only limitation and allowed players that leveled up their account to also play without a phone number, and the cheating problem came right back.
Yep, and in doing so they created a market for farming account levels to sell to cheaters. If they can't get a phone number, how do they have an internet connection and PC good enough for the game? It's not an unfair request they had, but they ditched on it.
There was services for cents to a dollar to get phone numbers to use. It only affected legitimate players that did not have phone numbers
yes, that is because even when they make a ban they ban the account not the actual person using it. for some accounts they know exactly who is behind them and they could give those good trust factor. mess around, you get banned and with new account your trust is lower. don't mess around and play with other trusted players.
Simpele and effective solution would be to make it mandatory to link credit card to Steam account and If you get vac ban your credit card is banned so you cant make new account with it.
@@jermu9607 exactly. not just the credit card but actual person. the only way around it would be for someone else to pay for you with their own credit card (or criminal use). this would not need to be mandatory, but it would improve trust factor immensely. and they already have credit cards connected with one or multiple accounts (they offer local downloads of games, to share games between family accounts...).
I’m just waiting for Valve to add ”Your enemy player is spinbotting, do you want to surrender” button in to the game. It should take like one person one day maximum to code a spinbot detection and even easier one that detects those shooting guns at much higher rate than intended, it’s so incredible how they simply don’t care.
CS2 cheaters are more common then CSGO. I took last game with 2 friends before I had to stop, and get ready for bed. I got a spinbotter on my team that tried to play closet cheating at start, ofc silver movement and crosshair placement but most kills death adr, but he ended up cheating last half with auto bhop and spinbot. we won ofc since he cheated.
So now the game finished, and I asked the boys to stream the next game in discord since I couldn’t join. they got 7 cheaters in one game, entire enemy was auto bhop and wallhack, used smokes to try getting them zues’d the entire game. Then two on my friends team started hacking back… and this in 14.5K rating (my friends should actually be around 19K including myself). we just got rank reset after the season ended
That is actually insane. 7 cheaters on lobby…
lack of overwatch & influx of players returning/trying it out.
Dead game is dead, only lord gaben can do a mirable and revive that dead dead game. It is incredible how much peope are ready to endure and how much shit they are ready to eat just to stick to waht they know. The game won't chnage if eveybody keep playing and cying at the same time it does not send any message to Valve which has been reading non-stop complain for everything and anything, legit or not for decades now.
im in that spot where im too shit to play faceit but really close to that sweetspot where you find cheaters consistently .....
There is absolutely 0 skill requirement to play Faceit. Don’t be discouraged by the competitive nature of the platform. Everyone has to start somewhere. I say give it a go.
You might end up finding faceit games easier just because you’re going against legit players. You might just be surprised by how good the util usage is
The lower levels of faceit exist for a reason, it’s not just for level 10’s
oh don't worry about your skill level. I have around 10,000 elo in Premier and found very good matches for my skill level on Faceit.
FaceIt is just as infested with DMA cheaters from the Middle East since a Saudi invest group bought it. Again you install a kernel spyware that is used by the same people that 360 noscope you. 🤣
Solo queuing in premier is so bad. A recent game I played there was eight cheaters in my game. The four cheaters on my team kept asking for me to drop them auto snipers since they kep dying to the enemy teams better cheats. The cheaters on my team and the other team were asking what cfg’s each were using and for each others discords… so cringe this game is done
relatable
Are you from NA cause in eu they don’t talk that much
@@csbenek NA
Luckily I am 38 now and my prime in CS is long gone so I just spend more time with my family :D
My duo and I were doing premier at about 10k-11k and ran into the same cheater 2 games in a row. We even waited after the first one to try and dodge the guy in the next game, but that didn't work. Anyways we got fed up so we packed our sht. Still want our 5v5 bomb defuse fix so yes, we went to Valorant. They both need to learn a lot from each other still but its so nice not seeing cheaters.
I'm pretty sure when CS2 came out, Valve updated VAC to just be a Hello World program. I see people blatantly locking on through walls, report them, and never see a ban. As much as I would love to see new content in the game, I'd rather have a functional anti-cheat
“Hello world” made me laugh. Nice. But VAC being shit is not nice
Another W video Ryder.
My biggest problem isn’t with the cheating more or less, obviously it’s a problem. Rather, my biggest gripe with valve was their push to market Premier and CS2 in general as a way to bring the community back together, all in one space, and as a finished product. They even had professional players push the game as a win, that they changed so much, and vac live was going to work. It was all a facade and big marketing scheme. This is what I went to school for, having a good looking product is all fine, dressing it up and having great marketing is a plus. But they sold it as a much more finished product. In which case it definitely was not and we got baited.
So I’m not just a negative Nancy, this is what I would have loved to see Valve do to kill platforms such as Faceit and bring the community into one space:
•128 subtick (because subtick feels alright but it’s not enough)
•Premier AC
•Premier subscription (keep the game free, but premier costs money and requires a premier AC creating a barrier for entry)
•In game community server (matching that of the new ui and looking good)
•Audio included in demos (with the ability to toggle on and off, also don’t know if anyone noticed the demo viewer was so scuffed they cut it half way through the major and you could only watch a few games of the RMR in game)
•Overwatch
•and for the love of god…a map pool shakeup
Very thoughtful take. Also, thank you for the love bro.
I think your list of changes makes complete sense. I also agree with how fraudulent it felt when premier & VAC live was marketed the way it was. Unfortunately we all discovered the truth that followed. Anyway, thanks again for watching the video.
for the love of god NO map pool shake up, that would make it less competitive. You dont see them making "new types of hockey rinks"
@@jayocaine2946 yes
Can't even play wingman without cheaters
Wingman is even worse than premier 😞
I firmly believe that valve needs to stay away from kernel level AC’s the best way to detect a cheat is to build systems into the game itself and the server that can detect abnormal behaviors such as multiple ways to detect bullet spread and if it’s not acting how its meant to or abnormal fire-rates, player turning speeds, and many other common functions. You could even do a basic cone cast to see how often a player is looking at another player through a wall and if that time looking is seen as abnormal that game is flagged and if multiple instances happen in a row the games are sent in for a manual review via an overwatch system or via employees at valve who understand cheaters specifically.
This is not a hard problem to solve. Rather than making a software to detect a cheat program make a software that can detect a cheat action. With implementations that limit how far a cheat can go cheaters are brought down to a level similar to a smurf account and this discourages cheating as a whole. Will it still be a problem? Yes always. Will it be mitigated by using game and server functions to simply read abnormalities in a players gameplay? Absolutely.
Its been proven to work for throughout gamings life-span. So why deviate now? Why get lazy development wise and just ask for root access to a users computer? It makes no sense when there are more non-invasive ways to do this that could potentially even work in conjunction with lower level AC’s!
Do you think standard competitive is still playable ? I mean non premier match, the old one
Same principle apply to any public queue in CS2. I recommend Faceit if you truly want that competitive integrity.
It's less playable. It's the same game, same competitive format except no overtime. But there are a lot more casual players, AFKers, pranksters and shitters there. I would not recommend it.
If you play standard competitive just have a mindset that you're just there to enjoy the game regardless of what happens. I enjoy MM a lot with my friends. We just goof around for the most part and get serious when we need to. We only play premier when we are mentally ready to be mad and try our hardest lol
funny thing 90% of my playtime is from casual having fun but in the past month 1/3 maps i play in there is a obvious wh or aim chrater some even rage aim and still arent banned days after
I had a night of cs2 with 2 rage cheaters in a row. Full on scouting us through the map and geometry. Sad state the game is in. Face it for now until valve gets of their pile of money and does something.
Smart move
An interesting thing about face-it is it requires your CPU to have TPM 2.0. Thats not an issue for most, But for myself who used to run a i7-7700. I literally COULD NOT INSTALL faceit anticheat..... My processor was physically incapable of it. So me, A previous IM player. COUDNT PLAY WITHOUT CHEATERS. for the game I paid 15$ for. 10 years ago...
I ended up upgrading to get around this.... freakin insane.
Good video with solid points tho my dude, High end production quality/edits. (coming from a previous video editor) Hopefully you get more subs/recognition! :)
Thanks for the love man! That’s tough to hear you had to upgrade your hardware in order to play Faceit.
Also thanks for the kind words man!
There is ways to trick windows into thinking you have TMP 2.0 installed when you dont
@@d76458 Yeah for sure, But the last thing I would want is try to get around measures/requirements for the face it anti cheat, It could lead to a false positive/ban for tampering with files.
Up to 15K elo you can play relatively normally, although there are many matches in which the opponents have exceptional game sense, above 15K the drama begins. The funny thing is that at 20k+ cheaters start to have problems
20k must be the start of the cheater food chain. Where cheaters go to see who’s got the best software. It’s really too bad that it’s like that. It honestly effects the casual player the most though.
I am playing only premier. And last time someone was banned from my recent matches was at January 2024 after that date i played over 200 matches there i meet tons of cheaters starting from silvers using wh, to spin bots. And non of them was banned after January, i am confident saying VAC is turned off entirely or it's not been touched/updated since January
I feel this in my bones.
I think the problem is entirely community management based on Valve's end. They need to invest in software tools for moderation, and a large team of community moderators. Who are responsible for dealing with Overwatch style reports, for toxic players, griefing, hacking. They also clearly need to redouble their investment in anticheat.
I've been playing with a mate recently. My mate is trash, so it's annoying, we derank hard, because he is trash. Probably won't play with him any more. Whatever. I'm trying to get back to around where I usually sit. I usually float a bit below 10k elo. I think if I didn't have to deal with poor MM and bad VAC, I'd probably max out at about 11k. I'm not a great player, I know what I'm doing, I know my calls, my strats, my lineups, but my mechanical aim is a limiting factor that's going to hold me back. I can live with that.
But the games are terribly matched. It constantly finds games where the players have up to a 5k difference in elo. That's ridiculous, that's huge. It's not just lobbied groups causing this, it's constantly an issue with solos. There are sus people. You don't know for sure they are cheating, but you know the system wouldn't stop them, and it tilts your team. I played two games tonight. First one was all shitters. Muted my whole team, and when their griefing got obnoxious, just deagled and spent my time blocking them to get them killed. Valve needs to realise that they only turn normal players into toxic players by not banning the toxic players-one of them is spamming some nonsense about how he is a paedophile in chat. Another is failing to vote kick someone for failing a clutch. Another is complaining about other people's plays after peeking with bomb and giving it to CT. They're all toxic. Why isn't trust factor expanded so that you can put all of these guys into lobbies for them, where it's only toxic players and cheaters? Why are they in general MM? They're teamkilling at round end, teamflashing constantly, they're obvious problem players. You could try to play normally, but then you'd be helping toxic players to get better ranks and disrupt more games.
Whatever, even with just messing around trying to get obnoxious teammates killed, we still win like 13:3.
Play the next game. Guy on my team afks repeatedly. Hate that. Just permaban them, so tired of the stoners who alt tab, put on youtube and smoke up when they die, and don't realise the next round is starting. Then when he finally starts playing, he's trash for the first round. Then afterwards, he becomes a gamesense god. He gets timinged about once for the rest of the game. Otherwise, he is always looking in the right direction when the enemy appear. His crosshair placement is trash, except when an enemy is there, almost like he can see their outline and only gets the placement right when he can see them. He's exclusively one tapping the AK, and he's only just short of tracing through walls. He does trace several people through smokes and shoots them. He's trying to hide it by spamming smokes, but he always fires rapidly and spammily when nobody is in a smoke, and when they are there it's taps at head height, netting him about 3 kills through the game. It's blatant, and it's obnoxious. He's got 1700 hours on his account, plays like a silver, doesn't understand when to shift walk, fires a rifle like he's Niko. Blatantly cheating.
So I spent almost 2 hours on my evening entertainment, spent one game babysitting delinquent children who are verbally abusing people and being obnoxious, and the other, watching a teammate get one tap 3ks while always knowing where the enemy are, and exposing himself to a bunch of angles to do so, that he knows are clear, because he's walling.
I download the replay. I watch it. It's all very obvious. It goes from sus, to extremely sus, to blatant as the game goes on. Any overwatch mod would ban him. But there is no community overwatch, and does valve even check reports? And how long has he been doing this? 1700 hours, 40 games on account, this is his main. He is "legit" cheating but only in the thinnest excuse for the word. He clearly walled several people. How has this guy not been banned sometime in those 1700 hours? Why does Valve think people go to Faceit? At least on Faceit, a) you used to have 128 tick, until VALVE sabotaged that. Awful decision Valve. You should have gone with 128 tick+subtick. b) You have proper community management and managers who will ban players for cheating promptly. c) you have a more up to date anticheat than the actual developer of the game can make.
I really like CS2. it's the most fun I've had with the game in years, love the new smokes, new util stuff, the map redesigns are very pretty, once they finish tuning them for competitive they'll be neat, the ranking system is more transparent and it's easier to move around ranks. But the way it rewards elo is broken, the toxic players are still there, the cheaters are still there, and at 40-60 minutes a game it's not worth the misery. All so that Valve can make HUGE margins on the product. That's what this is all about: a margin. Valve could still make money paying for a dev team for AC that is twice the size, they could make money with a team of hundreds of moderators. They would still be raking in billions. But they care about the few million off the top actually maintaining their game would cost, so they have an awful community with a cheating problem, which drives away new players.
They are really lucky that their competition are either a) Ubisoft and Siege, who also regularly break their game and have huge cheating problems b) Valorant which has rubbish gameplay, worse maps, and messes with the clean simplicity of the format by trying to be a hero shooter and c) COD and other Battle-Royalified shooters trying to be competitive. All it takes is someone who actually gives a damn, coming along and making a knockoff and they could really be in trouble.
you forgot the part when you get matched with people that have 16 hours in game. they are either new players, cheaters or smurfs (but usually cheaters). either way it is not fun.
I think Valve will do nothing about it because CSGO and CS2 the game itself are not the main priority to them. The real highest priority is the skins market where hundred millions of real money is involve. Enhancing VAC means banning more potential customers resulting less profits. CSGO was running for more than 10 years without any improvement since it was the monopoly for tactical fps genre, until the Valorant got big enough to became a threat. That's why CS2 (CS1.5) is released and and copied some concept such an upgraded graphics, winning rounds 16 to 13, AK47 firing rate feel closer to Vandal etc which is more similar to Valorant to attract old players to come back and new players to try out playing CS2. While FACEIT do not have the skins market, they are focusing on stronger anti cheat and attracting true players to pay for their premium. The stronger the anti cheat, the more profitable FACEIT become. As for the kernel level anticheat is personal choice, those who value and prioritize the fair gameplay will definitely go to faceit and paying for premium. I only use my gaming pc to play game and nothing else, losing to real pros in FACEIT are much better than wasting my time playing with cheaters in premier.
I actually grinded premiere for a bit, but getting to higher elos there’s simply always that dude that doesn’t get any kills for 4 rounds, then straight suspicious 4ks and closes the match.
I have a Windows-Linux dual boot on my desktop, using Linux to work. I simply can't toggle secure boot on, otherwise my GPU drivers won't work properly on Linux.
And without secure boot on, Faceit AC doesn't work.
So I'm stuck on Premier for the time being, around the 15k rank and facing a cheater almost every other match...
You don't need secure boot for most windows 10 versions for faceit AC. A friend of mine has windows 10 home edition and plays without secure boot.
Faceit here I come
That’s the spirit
I just played a hacker in faceit 😂 where can i go now ? At least they less in there
@@WaZarooo There is probably DMA cheater or radar cheater on faceit, but it's very rare
Hardware cheats and DMA can't be detected in FACEIT
@@XxInfinityxXTimer yes i do know that
Suprised u don't have more subscribers 😮Hope u grow big soon👍
Thanks for the love man!
awesome videos man, keep it up!
Absolutely will do! Thanks you!
From my recent experience in premier with multiple accounts, in mid-low level premier its quite good experience like 8k-15k, but once you go past 21k which i did, oh boy the clown show starts (EU servers), obvious trigger, wh, spinbots you name it - everything. Thats why for now im not tryharding for high rank, just rather relax and play with deagle or auto shotgun while not actually "smurfing" in lower ranks than deal with cheaters in high ranks
Cheat coders say themselves that kernel level anti cheats (which are still signature based) are not particuarly more difficult to circumvent than traditional AC. The only solution is some AI or statistical method which is presumably what Valve are working on, fingers crossed.
AI has a too high error rate. This is not a usecase for AI. Statistics would be great though. Just check every shot which hit somebody on the server. The server can calculate the area where the bullet can possibly land. From there you get the probability to hit the target. Would make silent aim impossible.
I don't enjoy the faceit culture much. I just uninstalled entirely.
Wussy
i played 4 games with 3 spinbotters 2 days ago already in 16k elo. everytime i reach close to 20k elo i get spinbotter lobbies and get sent back to 16k elo. i have no motivation to keep playing if there is no way for me to progress anymore.
Make that move to Faceit bro. You’ll improve so much as a player. And if Valve ever fixes their public ranked matchmaking, when you go back you’ll be a monster.
one problem with faceit is that it doesn't have middle east server like valve, i get 30-35 ms in middle east server compared to faceit eu server 100 ms...
Playing in high ping can be annoying and sometimes unplayable. Hopefully they support your region soon.
yea no, kernel is a very big risk if hacked, seriusly a danger to your pc and privacy. I love the way vac used to work, i think valve just need to update and use more overwatchers
Feels like there is no winning wherever I go, half my prem and comp matches are full of high level faceit players and faceit keeps putting me in high level faceit games or with smurfs. Cheating has gotten better lately and it looks like valve has been banning them the last few days but its still unfun because of smurfing.
Keep playing against good players! That’s the best way to improve. It’s hard at first but it’s worth it in the end. Smurfing is a problem and there is no way around it, but I will say you should report all the potential smurfs you see. You’d be surprised how many people Faceit does in fact ban.
Either way I want to say thank you for watching the video.
Not all of them are probably smurfs. Many longtime players are practically forced to start playing faceit now and they all start at low elo.
I finally stopped playing CS this week, I have been playing solo in premier for years almost everyday after work and I don't know how I did to remain sane, at least in appearance.
you played premire in csgo? why?
at first bro we were okay and rarely experienced cheaters in silver MM on Nuke.
But more and more have been flooding to regular comp too.
we were safe for a bit in low rank but we keep running into cheaters boosting low ranked accounts and it's so bad we're just gonna strictly play on FaceIt servers. which sucks because I don't like having to play every game with meta-level strats and zero fun allowed.
But we're sucking it up and dealin' with having to be super competitive about it anyway. :/
I will admit playing Faceit does take away some “easy going” fun that matchmaking has. It’s unfortunate but that’s the world we live in.
I'm at 13k and the wildest thing is I can't tell if I'm underranked or not because I keep running into (aside from the cheaters) players with such greatly varying level of skill near my elo that the games regularly decay to chaos of some brand.
The cheating is so prevalent that it messes up the ranks all over.
i have up on this game, i only play some casual to get my weekly drop (and no there's Absolut no chance i will switch to valorant that thing isn't Fps, it's just a shooting with some powers)
Try Faceit!
Hell no! No invasive anti cheat.
im at 19k elo, EVERY SINGLE game there are multiple spin botters. But by doing so i miss out on weekly drops, xp, and badges. I shouldn't care about this stuff but i like collecting these.
Valve could have used server side statistic based anti-cheat a long time ago, for example it worked great in battlefront (FairFight) caught even people with wallhack, not to mention aimbot and spinbot. There have already been enough proven server anti-cheat solutions that even VACNet could gather enough data over 6 years to start banning cheaters. So the current situation with cs and cheaters just looks ridiculous considering the size and available resources of an 8 billion dollar company. But it seems releasing unfinished games with disabled anti-cheat has become popular (right, DICE?).
yea just told my friend to get cs as he’s new to pc games but every game is cheaters. So, i tell him to buy prime and there will be less cheaters but thats not the case at all… i’m disappointed really, loved the game and began grinding it before the cs2 update and got mg2. this just isn’t fun and i don’t really want to use a 3rd party software bc my friends are casual players. but we shouldn’t have to just to play valves game.
100% agree with you. It’s really unfortunate the state of CS2. Thanks for the comment!
people need to hear this. premier should be for hackers only its the meta now. thanks for the video. should have told them about the ESEA issue with the bitcoin stuff too. to show the danger in the kernel level.
After making the video I realized I kissed an opportunity to mention that. I may mention it in a later video
@@Ryderdie1 yeah its whatever a lot know, i was to happy to hear what i been telling people, faceit for real, MM for fun and premier is for hackers. valve knows how much they make off bans and new accounts. we just have to be smarter as players as well. keep up the good work!
*Missed
Sadly I can't play FaceIT because I have Windows 11 without the TPM chip, so I have no other choice to play in Premier. 😢
People are even cheating in Casual gamemode. And biggest L is people not kicking them and abuses who calls out them😂.
Faceit and valorant only stop rage hacks it does not stop esp(only need to read memory and is way harder to detect), image recognition/color aimbots(no memory needed), direct memory access hacks(exploits computer hardware) and more like people making custom windows builds/VMs to bypass all anticheats
True...i tried Valorant. There are a shitton of wallhackers. Valorant is by far not as cheater free as everybody says. Their playerbase is just too inexperienced to spot them yet.
I have 3 friends that started to play cs2 recently and when I play with them in lower level every second or third game theres a cheater
I've managed to get up to 26k a while ago when it wasnt that bad ( 1 cheater every 2 games) now i have no rank and have abandonned due to cheaters every single game
idc if i m gonna get a lot of hate but as a cheater myself i want to point out some things valve made a huge mistake and that was going from cs1 to 2 and that also means to source 2 because on cs1 cheats were starting to have somewhat of a trouble staying undetected and the anticheat was working in a way when they changed to cs2 everything went down..cheat coders found ways to bring bang exploits like rapid fire,no spread etc the game is basically unplayable
So its kinda dangerous to have faceit installed ;-; ?
In a way yes, but that’s the sacrifice a lot of us make so we can have integrity in our matchmaking.
This is a fair point but luckily I'm CSR 1200 so it's not an issue for me :) no cheaters here!
I doubt valve would make kernel level anticheat because they somehow support linux and that would kill it. I myself would never switch to shitty microsoft os just to play a videogame.
Respectable
Valorant is filled with cheaters but assumes it's all smurfs because they don't understand that kernel level anticheat is figured out already by cheat developers. There is also EAC which has just as many cheaters. There isn't a silver bullet method and valve understands this and is taking the time cause if they push an anti cheat update and it doesn't have a large impact they will do more harm to the community sentiment.
This is true it only stopped rage hacks
one time I was playing just a regular game, and one guy was rage/legit hacking, I called him out on it but my team for some reason voted me out, because "they didnt want the cheater to leave"
Kernel level anticheats just give an edge against cheats which are not running on kernel level themselves. Because most of them do run on kernel level it's very easy for them to prevent detection even if the AC runs on kernel level. Valorant's and faceit's anticheats are better because they constantly update the signatures which valve seems to not have done since they released trustfactor.
This whole concept is completely outdated. If you have to add signatures you are always one step behind. It would make much more sense to implement a server side anticheat and just detect the result of a cheat. It needs only a few lines of code to reliably detect aimhacks, triggerbots, speedhacks and spinbots. Even wallhacks could be detected with a little bit of effort.
what about community servers?
We need a good anti-cheat
Valve : you need to open more cases
Even if valve comes out with the best anti cheat today they have made themselves look really bad dragging their users for months of really bad game experience.
I fw your videos bro keep it up and valve listen to this man
Thanks man! More videos coming out soon.
Tbh I stop playing Premier to go into faceit the best thing I did, only caught 1 cheater in my team and 1 in the other team in like what 40 matches. At least that I am 100% sure they were cheating.
Faceit’s software does a good job of keeping the cheaters away. Keep grinding bro!
@@Ryderdie1 Thanks
My biggest issue with kernel level ac is it seems infeasible to make for windows and Linux. That said, I would love for valve to at least temporarily have kernel level ac for windows only pushing cheaters to switch to Linux so we can finally see the year of the Linux desktop 😂. It can also be a pretty big indicator that the accounts that switch over this time are cheaters.
12k Elo, Yesterday 1 spinbotter and 2 legit cheaters in 3 games
valorant still has cheaters and tbh they have been seeing and increase in cheaters recently
Interesting. I wonder if I can find statistics on that
@@Ryderdie1 yh it would make a good video, i don't play Valorant but there's blogs and videos about the increase in Cheaters.... I feel like most games have seen an increase in cheating in 2024 but idk why
Nothing can't stop me
At 19k elo I switched to face it and lost my premier rank cos I stopped playing premier
Clearly since most of the cheaters are the same rank as me, most people wouldnt be able to keep up with me if they werent cheating, and I'd have no one to play against. So really, who cares? They're at my rank, then they're my skill with their cheats idc I have someone to play against.
Take it over to Faceit bro. I’m sure you’ll see actually how good you are, which can be an awesome feeling.
@@Ryderdie1 i mean im not THAT good, isn't that like pro players and people who scrim with teams?
@@jayocaine2946 no they have a really good matchmaking service which is designed for the general population of CS players. Worth a go.
The spinbotters 9 times out of 10 want to HvH and not shit on legit players. Remember in CSGO their was private non VAC live servers where they had somewhere to go and HvH..Well they ain’t got nowhere to go apart from high ELO premier…just the guys who are legit good at the game get caught up in it as they fall into the high ELO. Bring back the community servers and that would solve alot of it BUT you’d still get little Timmy wanting to shot on non cheaters so he can type EZ in the chat at end!
There will always be hackers in all titles! Besides, they can do whatever they want since they have the title.
The thing is with VALORANT, even if someone was cheating you could never be sure because there is no demo viewer. People definitley cheat in VALORANT even though it's much less
That’s a really good point, I know kernel level anti-cheats aren’t perfect but I hadn’t thought about how there aren’t demos in Valorant. Hopefully for them they add them in the future.
Anyway, thanks for watching!
"This requires a kernel level program" not true. The valorant statement is also untrue, there are plenty of valorant cheats out there, like you pointed out in your face-it segment, it happens. And its always possible for a cheater to ruin your match. I want to say this because Kernel-level anti-cheats aren't a fool proof method, and people need to understand it isn't the only way to implement a "good" anti-cheat. (I'm sure you've also seen the hoards of people spamming cs needs a kernel-level anti-cheat) I'm not defending valve, premier is dog shit and it needs to change. I agree with you on most parts, but kernel-level anti-cheats are not the answer, I hate that it's become almost an industry standard because there are many other ways to prevent cheating but many are taking the easy way out by compromising the security of our systems. As a side note Valorants anti-cheat is actually a lot worse because vanguard (their anti-cheat) must be running since boot. If you turn it off you can't play valorant unless you restart your pc. Unlike most other anti-cheats that require their ac to be on only during play time.
I keep hearing all the time cs have biggest cheating problem of all time but i don't personaly see any more cheaters than i did on csgo. Like i have play 350 games on cs2 and i haven't see any rage cheaters.
That’s a really good thing. Hopefully that trend continues!
no offense but you're probably rather low elo then. I'd say below 15k elo youll barely meet any, between 15-20k you're gonna have at least 1 every 1 or 2 matches and above 20k almost every game will be hvh
@@Linda- Yeah im abaout 15k elo, have been at 18k at best. Yeah i have notice that 20k+ seems to be something that have rage hackers on everygame so im more than happy to stay below 15k rating.
havent logged in since 4/6. Can't waste anymore time with these HvH nightmare
I have packet losses on faceit 😭
I’ve experienced the same thing. That’s the server instability I was referring to.
First ,i played FACEIT and cheaters are there also ,a lot of them . Yes ,i love this game ,i play this game for almost 20 years ,and it is the only shooter i play . It is filled with cheaters ,mostly in Premier Mode ,yes ,that is correct !! Lately i found myself in matches with full team cheaters on both sides ,for more than 3 months this is daily ,full team cheaters on both teams .
It is unplayable at this point ,CS2 is a major crap ,just because of the cheaters ,the game itself its ok .
I dont think every time i get shot that they are cheating ,no ,i just think maybe that guy is better than me or he just got lucky ,or i just shoot to bad ,or i did something wrong ,but never i think first hand that they are cheating .
Although this days it is more common to think that !! To many stupid cheaters !!!
There are still cheaters on Valorant
I can’t play faceit bc my potato doesn’t have TPM 2.0 :(
True
Something strange it s happening with MM i got a 7 days cooldown for being toxic and now i have another aditional 5 days(although cheaters can play peacefully)
Bizarre what Valve prioritizes..
@@Ryderdie1 my team can troll and play but me being tryhard and playing good talking shit big problem something is wrong.
first time I entered faceit I got friend requested 15 scammers a day to join their fake hub/discord. im not subscribing to play a game anymore, iwe subscribed for WoW 18 years.
valve better fix the game in this year or I and most of my friends are cashing out our inventorys.
vanguard anticheat is considered a spyware (owned by tencent and a video proves that)
Yea ngl i would much rather fight smurfs than cheaters
Lesser of two evils, really.
Play 5 games yesterday 1good legit match. 15k rating full of Bad cheatters 20k only hvh
Whats funny is that when you turn off your anti-virus to play with most cheats in CS2 this will cause the Riot Client to restrict you from playing their games and you will need to restart your computer. I have to do that all the time I want to actually play legit on Valorant. Honestly I dont even remember what got me into cheating on CSGO. I'm surprised Valve doesnt target all the main public cheats as of right now. Like Neverlose, Aimware and any other bullshit public cheats. The cheating community thinks Valve is incompetent when it comes to their anti-cheat and detecting cheats. For years there have been people like you asking Valve and even cheat developers telling Valve that they need to fix their Anti-cheat. I mean hell even some developers gave Valve fixes for some exploits on their game which lead to a giant change in the hvh community.
Go ahead and stay away from this channel if you cheat, bud.
@@Ryderdie1 ooga booga
kernel level anticheat is on the go, there are plenty of closet cheaters on valorant and faceit. and it is pretty useless agains hardware cheats and ai cheats
Great now all the bots will come to faceit 😭😭😭😭
noone coming its dead game
I am so tilted…. Unplayable kn premier…
I feel your pain bro. Seriously take that move over to Faceit. You won’t regret it.
@@Ryderdie1 i did bro… it is 100 times better than Premier… just did a game where the guy left during first round… i am so tilted… one week pause will be good i think… i am angry at valve
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rahh anyone wants to play eu?
STOP PLAYING PREMIER ‼️
Cheaters almost every games, funny thing is, almost all of them are closet, but are really extremely bad at hiding it, it's honestly kind of funny, but also weird, what happened to the days where every cheater would just be a spinbotter or blatant, and how come all of them are closet cheating silvers? is there just some free / trial cheat out there that all the bad players are currently using?
Players from India has no choice whatsoever in this matter. We have two servers in India, the server in which I get lower ping (10-15ms) has a consistent 6-10% packet loss. Since we cannot select servers in Counter Strike, I cannot join the other server (30-35ms average ping) but has zero packet loss.
Faceit has no Indian server, so we are forced to play on Singapore, Indonesian or Dubai servers on high ping and extremely unpleasant racists.
I don't want to watch CS die but this is just disgusting behavior on Valve's end to neglect a playerbase like this.
You would expect them to fix the packet loss issue at the very least, but nah, it's there. I know that it's not my ISP because I get 0 loss in Valorant or in Faceit or community servers.
You people are well known cheaters not only in CS but also in valorant, SO yea valve or faceit doesnt care about your region. Some of the CS cheats are developed by indians, and account boosting and selling is source of income for many Indian CS mafia.
20-25k premiere is filled with cheaters
Faceit is also trash.. im lvl 3 and always play against fresh accounts with 50h of cs
People Still Cheat in valorant. Kernel Level anti-cheats is not the answer-.
8k = 2 spinbotters per game
Disagree won’t elaborate
Also cheating isn’t THAT bad but maybe that’s my s1 nuke mm doing it’s thing
Premier = kernel level anti cheat.
Competitive = free for all.
Problem solved
No reason to not put them in both!
esportal> faceit animals
Either you play faceit or become a cheater to yourself.
Sooo many cheaters, it's trash
Nice try fed
Nah just play some other games and wait 3 years for the game to be patched or dies. Either way we got our fun in cs go
The game is dying. Hitting record numbers despite less people playing than CS2 launch, casual and DM lobbies are filled with Bot accounts farming cases. Its insanity.