We have a 2010 Scenic 3 with 1.5dci 106bhp engine,it's been used hard for last 5 years,225 000km on t clock,its very comfy,lovely to drive, nothing serious went wrong so far,service it every 15k kms,I'm very surprised how good it is as never was a Renault fan.Thinking of getting another Scenic,2017.
getting mine next week. very happy great comfy family car and safe. thats the main thing i want for my family. and i think its looks very very nice on the outside. plus huge windows
Today I was sitting in new Scenic Edition one equipment. It is a great car in and out, and if you consider that it is a Renault, interior quality looks good enough. I especially like the interior ambiance lightening. Interior space is ok, bat the space in the back is lower then the C4 Picasso or Touran, or even the older generation of Scenic. Two things I don"t like about this car. This tablet table in the back of the seats are mistake because their position is too low and reduce knee space in the backseats for 4 to 5 cm. The second bad thing about this car is front visibility, front parking sensors are must have. Overall this is a great family car, I like it a lot, probably my next car in dci 110 version.
Great review as always Marek - the option to slide the center console till the second seating row is a great option to seperate two kicking kids from each other!
@marek could you please make a review of the new Scenic 4 facelift but with TCe 140 engine because dCi engines are 15 years old. The new technology of TCe engines are remarkable, taken from F1 development and now TCe petrol engines are crazy quiet and comfortable to drive. Thanks and cheers from Macedonia. ;-)
mam Scenic II z 2006 r i wydaje mi się, że w środku jest dużo więcej miejsca. Czyżby downsizing objął także budę? Słabe to. Generalnie nowe Renowki mnie nie krecą.
Hi Marek, what about changing your usual routes a little bit? :-D I've watched a few of your tests and seeing always the same surrounding and same camera angles is kinda borring :-( Anyways, your test are nice! ;)
I wish I could, but I have to take time/cost into account. These roads are relatively close to where I live and film static shots. They are also relatively empty, which means I can film safely, and do not have to wait an hour to get a decent shot. This is still half an hour drive, when there is no traffic. I'm constantly looking for an alternative location, but found nothing suitable so far.
How it drives in sport mode, more peppy or same? I think it has it.. I drive 2016 Cross 4grip with 1.6 diesel and it feels sluggish in auto mode but in sport it peppy enough for all kinds of overtaking.. Try it. Its nicer to drive than 2013 model and more confi..
Is the new Hyundai Elantra on your "test drive" list? Because I would really value your opinion and critic about the car, regarding the fact that I plan to buy it in the near future. :) Also I enjoy all your car reviews, excellent in-debt analysis.
You should rather compare the boot volume of the small Scénic with the Golf Sportsvan and the Grand Scénic with the Touran. The seats are 33/66 and not 40/60. Ford C-Max got 40/20/40. So the middle seat in the Scénic is more useful than the one in the C-Max. Headroom is still a lot better than in the C4 Picasso. Only few Minivans got more powerful diesel engines than the Scénic. The C4 Picasso's engines are less powerful. It's a minivan, not a sports car. The engines are absolutely sufficient. It only needs a petrol with EDC too. But in France there are already some speculations about a future Scénic GT. Well, why not, with that design a sporty version is much more credible than a sporty Touran. Why are the headrests even up when you're driving alone? :D But overall a nice review. We ordered the Grand Scénic last weekend as our new family car. I would even recommend getting the Grand Scénic as a 5 seater if you're not absolutely willing to get the yellow colour (which is a perfectly good reason to get the small Scénic). The leg- and headroom in the back is much better in the Grand Scénic. On the other hand the Grand Scénic doesn't cost that much more.
If you compare external dimensions Scenic is considerably bigger, than Golf SV, yet SV beats it in every department. Consider my comparison to Touran an act of mercy, because Touran is more expensive, so Scenic can hold its ground at least in that department. As for the headrests, if I have people getting in and out (driving older kids to school, the driving alone for the rest of the day) I'm not going to fiddle with the headrests twice a day. That said, Scenic is probably the best Renault out there at the moment.
Not in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile here's pre-facelift HSD. Bear in mind this is an old review, so the quality is what it is. ua-cam.com/video/MejNpGrXPA4/v-deo.html
French designers and their ideas - some ideas are brilliant but some are total fail like this center console or fuse box in glove compartment in other models. By the way did I get it right, all models get 20 inch wheels but the lower trims are steel? Those steel 20s will weight a ton.
Yes fusebox is onlu on RHD ..its same on my senic 2 ..LHD has normal fusebox under electric brake while RHD has in glove compartment. I see lot off stuff missing that i have in senic 2 from 2003 ..like 3 removable seats in the back ,much less head room etc
It's specifically a problem in all French cars apparently. Every other manufacturer can just move the fuse box along with the steering, but not the French :(
actually, nowdays most RHD and LHD cars have the fuse box in the same location, which makes it a pain in the arse when you need to change a fuse and remove the entire glovebox.
I'm also really liking Renault's new design language with the Megane and Talisman and such, but their interiors and attention to detail... it's as if they overpaid the exterior designers at the beginning and now they need to save every penny from everywhere else.
I just hate electronic seat lowering. Why complicate seats to introduce yet another part that will fail eventually. If they only have LIFTING on a button... this is WASTE of money. Another hate goes to thoose LCD that controls everything. Using smart phones is prohibited during driving, but we are permitted to fiddle with touchscreen for climate control? No sense. While hardware dials you eventually learn to use blindly, the LCD will demand full attention to the last day of car owning, because of it's design: feedback only by image, nothing mechanically. And yet another expensive part it will fail eventually. Than that giant wheels. Even sport cars have smaller rims diameter. And thoose tiny break disc inside... another nonsense to just sell upmarket tyres. And thoose tyres will never gain big selling volume to be perfected as more common dimensions. I wil stay with Grand Scenig II for a while.
My wife is considerably shorter than I am, and has to make a lot of adjustments to the mirrors, steering column and seat. For us electric mirrors/seat/steering wheel adjustment with presets is a blessing. This leaves just the centre rear view mirror to adjust manually. We have one car, so sometimes we have to adjust everything a few times a day. In a car used mainly be one person or two persons of similar stature there's no need for it. LCD is actually relatively cheap to replace (around 500 euro last time I checked). I know we're not supposed to use smartphones, etc., but the screen is mainly for controlling other car functions. Once they are set, you rarely change them. Again, more sophisticated cars let you preset certain functions depending on the driver (assigned to key or driver profile). Big wheels may be an issue, but they look good :)
Marek Drives: You missunderstood my complaint. I am not talking about seat adjustment with memory. There is usage for it (not for me and wife since we rarely adjust seat one ofter another, due ot similar bodyes). I'm talking collapsing rear seats in Renault Scenic with tile on front central LCD. It is utterly nonsense. I'm paying that for no use at all. I have 7 seater Scenic now (second generation). Yes I would like to have electric seat for adjustment, because it is more precise in movement than mechanical lever with dents. But I never ever wanted electronic seat collapsing. You need to go there either way and do it. Collapsing is easy. Putting back demands some effort. And in new Scenic the effort to put seats back up is same (hard) as in older models. In fact, the single seats in older Scenic(s) are lighter than this 40/60 bech. So Why they did not put usefull feature of self lifting seats than? Self collapsing seats from command on dashboard LCD is utter nonsense. Period. While they did NOT provide electrical boot door. Like Citroen, even as an option!! Theese feature are gimmicks to sell more cars, they're put there where it is easy to implement and will fail and earn money after 5-10 years. Or will devaluate cars so much folks wil buy new one. I have Scenic, as I said. I like it. But it is cheap to buy expensive to maintain. Period. Key card is 150 EUR + labour to replace, while regular key in other car (much more expensive it was to buy), s 50 EUR + programming.
Silly presenter who is more interested in showing his own stupid improvement suggestions. Who cares if his girlfriend can't watch her nose when opening the boot.
We have a 2010 Scenic 3 with 1.5dci 106bhp engine,it's been used hard for last 5 years,225 000km on t clock,its very comfy,lovely to drive, nothing serious went wrong so far,service it every 15k kms,I'm very surprised how good it is as never was a Renault fan.Thinking of getting another Scenic,2017.
I get very happy every friday at 13H59 :) Thanks Marek
religiously looking at ure reviews marek really appreciate it
getting mine next week. very happy great comfy family car and safe. thats the main thing i want for my family. and i think its looks very very nice on the outside. plus huge windows
Great review...
Ordered my Grand Scenic - Bose Edition last month :) Still have to wait till end of June before it arrives
Today I was sitting in new Scenic Edition one equipment. It is a great car in and out, and if you consider that it is a Renault, interior quality looks good enough. I especially like the interior ambiance lightening. Interior space is ok, bat the space in the back is lower then the C4 Picasso or Touran, or even the older generation of Scenic. Two things I don"t like about this car. This tablet table in the back of the seats are mistake because their position is too low and reduce knee space in the backseats for 4 to 5 cm. The second bad thing about this car is front visibility, front parking sensors are must have. Overall this is a great family car, I like it a lot, probably my next car in dci 110 version.
Great review as always Marek - the option to slide the center console till the second seating row is a great option to seperate two kicking kids from each other!
Or trap one of them :)
excellent review. you deserve more subscribers.
Polish guy
Thanks Marek, Hi from Turkey
160 tce now available
@marek could you please make a review of the new Scenic 4 facelift but with TCe 140 engine because dCi engines are 15 years old. The new technology of TCe engines are remarkable, taken from F1 development and now TCe petrol engines are crazy quiet and comfortable to drive. Thanks and cheers from Macedonia. ;-)
Pls make review for Grand Scenic also!
You get 3 separate seats on Peugeot 5008 and Citroen C4 Picasso(grand Picasso as well), not just on Fords, VW and Kias.
Commentator541 My Opel Zafira Tourer too!
My Grand Scénic Initiale Paris will be delivered on thurday :) :)
Grand scenic or S-max? What do you think?
Why not a review for Renault Grand Scenic top specs?????? Pls
mam Scenic II z 2006 r i wydaje mi się, że w środku jest dużo więcej miejsca.
Czyżby downsizing objął także budę? Słabe to.
Generalnie nowe Renowki mnie nie krecą.
Hi Marek, what about changing your usual routes a little bit? :-D I've watched a few of your tests and seeing always the same surrounding and same camera angles is kinda borring :-( Anyways, your test are nice! ;)
I wish I could, but I have to take time/cost into account.
These roads are relatively close to where I live and film static shots. They are also relatively empty, which means I can film safely, and do not have to wait an hour to get a decent shot. This is still half an hour drive, when there is no traffic. I'm constantly looking for an alternative location, but found nothing suitable so far.
Poland is... quite a lot of nothing most of the time. As someone who's driven across the entire country I can confirm there aren't many better places.
I'll take a mpv over a crossover any day of the week.
Can lower rims be installed? Thanks!
How it drives in sport mode, more peppy or same? I think it has it.. I drive 2016 Cross 4grip with 1.6 diesel and it feels sluggish in auto mode but in sport it peppy enough for all kinds of overtaking.. Try it. Its nicer to drive than 2013 model and more confi..
It's better, but not night and day.
Is the new Hyundai Elantra on your "test drive" list? Because I would really value your opinion and critic about the car, regarding the fact that I plan to buy it in the near future. :) Also I enjoy all your car reviews, excellent in-debt analysis.
Perhaps it's best you buy it regardless of what I think of it ;)
ua-cam.com/video/8sJEMA0DU9Y/v-deo.html
overall its a nice looking car but your right. the engine choice is poor
Great review! What's you opinion on the somehow exotic tire dimensions which are in this car?
They look alright, but will probably be very expensive to replace or buy a second set (i.e. winter/summer). As I said, it rides very well.
J KG continental cost about 120€ a piece
You should rather compare the boot volume of the small Scénic with the Golf Sportsvan and the Grand Scénic with the Touran. The seats are 33/66 and not 40/60. Ford C-Max got 40/20/40. So the middle seat in the Scénic is more useful than the one in the C-Max. Headroom is still a lot better than in the C4 Picasso. Only few Minivans got more powerful diesel engines than the Scénic. The C4 Picasso's engines are less powerful. It's a minivan, not a sports car. The engines are absolutely sufficient. It only needs a petrol with EDC too. But in France there are already some speculations about a future Scénic GT. Well, why not, with that design a sporty version is much more credible than a sporty Touran.
Why are the headrests even up when you're driving alone? :D
But overall a nice review. We ordered the Grand Scénic last weekend as our new family car.
I would even recommend getting the Grand Scénic as a 5 seater if you're not absolutely willing to get the yellow colour (which is a perfectly good reason to get the small Scénic). The leg- and headroom in the back is much better in the Grand Scénic. On the other hand the Grand Scénic doesn't cost that much more.
If you compare external dimensions Scenic is considerably bigger, than Golf SV, yet SV beats it in every department. Consider my comparison to Touran an act of mercy, because Touran is more expensive, so Scenic can hold its ground at least in that department.
As for the headrests, if I have people getting in and out (driving older kids to school, the driving alone for the rest of the day) I'm not going to fiddle with the headrests twice a day.
That said, Scenic is probably the best Renault out there at the moment.
Will you make a review for the toyota yaris?
Not in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile here's pre-facelift HSD. Bear in mind this is an old review, so the quality is what it is.
ua-cam.com/video/MejNpGrXPA4/v-deo.html
Could you please do a review of the new Suzuki Ignis? Thanks
Early April according to my calendar.
great thans!
French designers and their ideas - some ideas are brilliant but some are total fail like this center console or fuse box in glove compartment in other models. By the way did I get it right, all models get 20 inch wheels but the lower trims are steel? Those steel 20s will weight a ton.
Fusebox in the glove compartment is a RHD thing I believe.
Yes fusebox is onlu on RHD ..its same on my senic 2 ..LHD has normal fusebox under electric brake while RHD has in glove compartment.
I see lot off stuff missing that i have in senic 2 from 2003 ..like 3 removable seats in the back ,much less head room etc
great looking car but odd alloy size dont you Think? good review; )
Thanks. It looks good though.
That's a lot of weight for 130hp. It must really struggle if there's even a hint of an incline :/
20" rims - why? Tyres will be expensive at that size. The headrests look a bit daft, and you are entirely correct about the moving centre console.
About 400 euro a set.
Уже 4 года катаюсь на Сценик 3, все отлично! Жаль что он больше в России не продается. Как теперь купить Сценик 4)))?
Я не понимаю вопроса.
Finally, a French car without a glove box for ants!
Luke Tan Probably because its left hand drive. Switch it back to the right, and that tiny box should be back :P
Rinesh Timoga oh crap... you're probably right. Especially as that's the side we drive on...
Is fusebox in the glovebox a problem in all RHD cars or specifically Renault?
It's specifically a problem in all French cars apparently. Every other manufacturer can just move the fuse box along with the steering, but not the French :(
actually, nowdays most RHD and LHD cars have the fuse box in the same location, which makes it a pain in the arse when you need to change a fuse and remove the entire glovebox.
Such a disappointment for an MPV.
I'm also really liking Renault's new design language with the Megane and Talisman and such, but their interiors and attention to detail... it's as if they overpaid the exterior designers at the beginning and now they need to save every penny from everywhere else.
from ua-cam.com/video/hYm0EOD3ILw/v-deo.html this guy is just so funny
I just hate electronic seat lowering. Why complicate seats to introduce yet another part that will fail eventually. If they only have LIFTING on a button... this is WASTE of money. Another hate goes to thoose LCD that controls everything. Using smart phones is prohibited during driving, but we are permitted to fiddle with touchscreen for climate control? No sense. While hardware dials you eventually learn to use blindly, the LCD will demand full attention to the last day of car owning, because of it's design: feedback only by image, nothing mechanically. And yet another expensive part it will fail eventually. Than that giant wheels. Even sport cars have smaller rims diameter. And thoose tiny break disc inside... another nonsense to just sell upmarket tyres. And thoose tyres will never gain big selling volume to be perfected as more common dimensions. I wil stay with Grand Scenig II for a while.
My wife is considerably shorter than I am, and has to make a lot of adjustments to the mirrors, steering column and seat. For us electric mirrors/seat/steering wheel adjustment with presets is a blessing. This leaves just the centre rear view mirror to adjust manually. We have one car, so sometimes we have to adjust everything a few times a day. In a car used mainly be one person or two persons of similar stature there's no need for it.
LCD is actually relatively cheap to replace (around 500 euro last time I checked). I know we're not supposed to use smartphones, etc., but the screen is mainly for controlling other car functions. Once they are set, you rarely change them. Again, more sophisticated cars let you preset certain functions depending on the driver (assigned to key or driver profile).
Big wheels may be an issue, but they look good :)
Marek Drives: You missunderstood my complaint.
I am not talking about seat adjustment with memory. There is usage for it (not for me and wife since we rarely adjust seat one ofter another, due ot similar bodyes). I'm talking collapsing rear seats in Renault Scenic with tile on front central LCD. It is utterly nonsense. I'm paying that for no use at all. I have 7 seater Scenic now (second generation). Yes I would like to have electric seat for adjustment, because it is more precise in movement than mechanical lever with dents. But I never ever wanted electronic seat collapsing. You need to go there either way and do it. Collapsing is easy. Putting back demands some effort. And in new Scenic the effort to put seats back up is same (hard) as in older models. In fact, the single seats in older Scenic(s) are lighter than this 40/60 bech. So Why they did not put usefull feature of self lifting seats than? Self collapsing seats from command on dashboard LCD is utter nonsense. Period. While they did NOT provide electrical boot door. Like Citroen, even as an option!! Theese feature are gimmicks to sell more cars, they're put there where it is easy to implement and will fail and earn money after 5-10 years. Or will devaluate cars so much folks wil buy new one. I have Scenic, as I said. I like it. But it is cheap to buy expensive to maintain. Period. Key card is 150 EUR + labour to replace, while regular key in other car (much more expensive it was to buy), s 50 EUR + programming.
This I agree.
Mihael Tominše Youk sit down. Mark 4 (four)
Silly presenter who is more interested in showing his own stupid improvement suggestions. Who cares if his girlfriend can't watch her nose when opening the boot.
Ugly car inside.
Weird,,, what were the designers thinking?.hic....hic....