My Gaggia from WLL gets delivered tomorrow. I *almost always support local brick and mortars (they are really struggling). But - I've learned more about the products from WLL vs the salespeople at local stores. So that determines who gets my business. Marc's previous experience really shows as well. His charisma is captivating. I hope WLL owners are reading this. They should see who is responsible for bringing in new customers.
Same here, I went with WLL almost solely because of Marc’s reviews and I feel like I’m buying from a caring company who is passionate about what they sell. All because of Marc.
We're loyal Whole Latte Love customers, having purchased two Gaggia espresso makers. We bought our Gaggia Cadorna 3 years ago and it's been great. Not a single problem. And always great espresso drinks. We have the traditional steam wand just because I wanted to do the frothing myself. Can't recommend WLL or Gaggia enough.
Hi N, thanks for the Q. If you like milk extra hot I suggest a machine with a manual steam wand. The Gaggia Accademia has a manual wand and convenience of autofrothing carafe. With a manual wand you can go as hot as you like. Machines with automatic milk generally have milk temps in the 125-150F range.
Hey Marc, once again great video. I grabbed the accademia after discussing it with you a month ago in your full review video and I am happy with it so far although we drink 95% espressos with the wife at home and I might have over killed it a little. So far the best espresso is brewed with the default settings but I'm struggling to figure out how to adjust the pre brewing feature. In the espresso it's entered at the highest setting but that might differ from different coffee beans though and other factors right? Light, medium, dark roasts etc... Any basic rules you want to share with me? Appreciate it. P.S. 1 more thing that I noticed is that when I brew at lower or higher temp than the default MID setting for espresso I get bad results. When do you personally increase or decrease the brew temp because so far I noticed the mid level procceses non sour and non bitter espressos. Thanks again.
Hey BB, Thanks for the report and questions. I tend to use more aggressive pre-brew settings on lighter and fresher beans. It allows the higher levels CO2 contained in the beans so brew water can dig deeper into what is usually a denser bean. I back off on the pre-brewing for darker and older roasts to avoid over-extracting and going too bitter. As for temp, I almost always use the highest setting - especially for lighter roasts. If it was a dark roast and things get bitter I'd reduce temp a bit. Hope that helps! Marc
This one is great! Curious if y'all have talked recently about your refurbished models? I think it would be cool to get an update on the behind the scenes side of things, your favorite models/best values, and the aftermarket support available
Hi h, Wouldn't that be wonderful! I have yet to find a bean to cup automatic that'll do that. One issue is every machine I've used regardless of manufacturer does a short rinse of the coffee system on startup. Put out a cup the night before and that'd end up in your cup! Marc
@@vincentolo9271 Thanks for letting me know! The Accademia has been our daily driver bean to cup super automatic in the studio for 2+ years now. Seriously makes the best espresso I've ever had from automatic machine. If you're into espresso, start with these settings Set grind to finest before adding beans Set flow control on spout to most restrictive setting Brew temp to High Espresso liquid volume to 60ml/2oz Strength to Boost* *Boost will do 2 grind cycles using about 10 grams each and split brewing of the 60ml total between the 2 grind cycles. about 2/3 in 1st cycle, the rest on 2nd cycle Enjoy! Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc!! I am wondering about flow control on this system. Is right turn or clockwise increasing flow or increasing flow reduction?
Hey The C, Accademia makes the best espresso I've ever had from a bean to cup super-automatic machine and I've used just about every machine available in North America over the past decade. Here's a deep dive video with more on the Accademia: ua-cam.com/video/jZWS38_Jge4/v-deo.html Marc
@ Thank you for the reply. I’ve been watching videos on both machines, I think I’ll go with the “Accademia”. It does look pretty amazing. The only negative I keep reading about is the size of the drip tray but that seems like a pretty petty negative.
@@TheChadillac You are welcome. The drip tray is on the smaller side. Depending on drinks being made rated max capacity is up to 14 brew cycles. It's rare to hit rated max capacity. Some drinks release more water into the internal drip tray than others. Then there's the Boost function which doubles up with 2 brew cycles for a single drink. In real use if you're boosting a lot you might be emptying drip tray after 5 -7 brew cycles. One trick is to keep a cup under the spouts to catch the start up and shut down coffee system rinse from ther coffee spouts. That doesn't help the internal drip tray but does wonders for the external one. Hope that helps!
@@Wholelattelovepage One last question and I'm grateful for you taking the time to reply. I've read that the brew group is now being made by Philips on the "Accademia" which is turning some people off from buying. Has this been your experience?
@@TheChadillac The design of the brew group has not changed in recent years. All Gaggia machines are manufactured in Italy. Gaggia operates very independently from any parent organizations which have included Saeco and Phillips. The brew unit is not a concern in any way for me. With regular recommended maintenance past and current brew units regularly go +10,000 brew cycles with no issues. If the brew group ever needs deep service it's a simple DIY process and the rebuild kit is
The best thing I ever did was get a super automatic. Got a Phillips 3300 and it's so nice to be able to just make a nice drink fast in the morning. In contrast I almost never used my Breville Barista Express. That being said I should have gone to a higher end model, the drink selection is limited. Maybe next time I will get the Gaggia.
If you don't have access to all the main competitors in the segment, (e.g. KA KF8, Miele 6360, Bosch 800), then you probably shouldn't say these are the best - more like the best YOU have tried.
Hi T, Thanks for the comment. Correct, we are very selective in the products we recommend. Would not recommend anything we do not have extensive experience in personal use, feedback from customers and our service technicians.
My Gaggia from WLL gets delivered tomorrow. I *almost always support local brick and mortars (they are really struggling). But - I've learned more about the products from WLL vs the salespeople at local stores. So that determines who gets my business. Marc's previous experience really shows as well. His charisma is captivating. I hope WLL owners are reading this. They should see who is responsible for bringing in new customers.
Same here, I went with WLL almost solely because of Marc’s reviews and I feel like I’m buying from a caring company who is passionate about what they sell. All because of Marc.
We're loyal Whole Latte Love customers, having purchased two Gaggia espresso makers. We bought our Gaggia Cadorna 3 years ago and it's been great. Not a single problem. And always great espresso drinks. We have the traditional steam wand just because I wanted to do the frothing myself. Can't recommend WLL or Gaggia enough.
Very interesting videos! I just bought a gaggia brera and I'm trying to get the best out of it...any options?
Hi a, Thanks for the comment. Do you mean optional accessories?
which one of these makes the hottest latte? can milk temperature be customized like in breville touch impress?
Hi N, thanks for the Q. If you like milk extra hot I suggest a machine with a manual steam wand. The Gaggia Accademia has a manual wand and convenience of autofrothing carafe. With a manual wand you can go as hot as you like. Machines with automatic milk generally have milk temps in the 125-150F range.
Hey Marc, once again great video. I grabbed the accademia after discussing it with you a month ago in your full review video and I am happy with it so far although we drink 95% espressos with the wife at home and I might have over killed it a little. So far the best espresso is brewed with the default settings but I'm struggling to figure out how to adjust the pre brewing feature. In the espresso it's entered at the highest setting but that might differ from different coffee beans though and other factors right? Light, medium, dark roasts etc... Any basic rules you want to share with me? Appreciate it.
P.S. 1 more thing that I noticed is that when I brew at lower or higher temp than the default MID setting for espresso I get bad results. When do you personally increase or decrease the brew temp because so far I noticed the mid level procceses non sour and non bitter espressos. Thanks again.
Hey BB, Thanks for the report and questions. I tend to use more aggressive pre-brew settings on lighter and fresher beans. It allows the higher levels CO2 contained in the beans so brew water can dig deeper into what is usually a denser bean. I back off on the pre-brewing for darker and older roasts to avoid over-extracting and going too bitter. As for temp, I almost always use the highest setting - especially for lighter roasts. If it was a dark roast and things get bitter I'd reduce temp a bit. Hope that helps!
Marc
What do you think of the Smeg EMCO2WHMUK Mini Pro Espresso Coffee Machine? Maybe a review?
Hey mark, I have yet to use the machine so no thoughts yet. If/when I get one I'll do review.
Marc
This one is great! Curious if y'all have talked recently about your refurbished models? I think it would be cool to get an update on the behind the scenes side of things, your favorite models/best values, and the aftermarket support available
Who makes the GAZA machine as he keeps mentioning???
Hey j, it's Gaggia Milano: www.gaggia.com/
Marc
Do any of the gaggia machines have something automatic, where it will brew a cup of something at 5am every morning?
Hi h, Wouldn't that be wonderful! I have yet to find a bean to cup automatic that'll do that. One issue is every machine I've used regardless of manufacturer does a short rinse of the coffee system on startup. Put out a cup the night before and that'd end up in your cup!
Marc
Order this yesterday. Looking forward to seeing it in action compared to my Lucca semi manual.
Hi v, which machine?
Marc
@ Gaggia Accademia. Thanks for asking. I just realized I didn’t include that in my comment.
@@vincentolo9271 Thanks for letting me know! The Accademia has been our daily driver bean to cup super automatic in the studio for 2+ years now. Seriously makes the best espresso I've ever had from automatic machine. If you're into espresso, start with these settings
Set grind to finest before adding beans
Set flow control on spout to most restrictive setting
Brew temp to High
Espresso liquid volume to 60ml/2oz
Strength to Boost*
*Boost will do 2 grind cycles using about 10 grams each and split brewing of the 60ml total between the 2 grind cycles. about 2/3 in 1st cycle, the rest on 2nd cycle
Enjoy!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc!! I am wondering about flow control on this system. Is right turn or clockwise increasing flow or increasing flow reduction?
@@vincentolo9271 Yes, turn clockwise to decrease flow rate.
Is the Accademia better than the Delonghi eletta explore?
Hey The C, Accademia makes the best espresso I've ever had from a bean to cup super-automatic machine and I've used just about every machine available in North America over the past decade. Here's a deep dive video with more on the Accademia: ua-cam.com/video/jZWS38_Jge4/v-deo.html
Marc
@ Thank you for the reply. I’ve been watching videos on both machines, I think I’ll go with the “Accademia”. It does look pretty amazing. The only negative I keep reading about is the size of the drip tray but that seems like a pretty petty negative.
@@TheChadillac You are welcome. The drip tray is on the smaller side. Depending on drinks being made rated max capacity is up to 14 brew cycles. It's rare to hit rated max capacity. Some drinks release more water into the internal drip tray than others. Then there's the Boost function which doubles up with 2 brew cycles for a single drink. In real use if you're boosting a lot you might be emptying drip tray after 5 -7 brew cycles. One trick is to keep a cup under the spouts to catch the start up and shut down coffee system rinse from ther coffee spouts. That doesn't help the internal drip tray but does wonders for the external one. Hope that helps!
@@Wholelattelovepage One last question and I'm grateful for you taking the time to reply. I've read that the brew group is now being made by Philips on the "Accademia" which is turning some people off from buying. Has this been your experience?
@@TheChadillac The design of the brew group has not changed in recent years. All Gaggia machines are manufactured in Italy. Gaggia operates very independently from any parent organizations which have included Saeco and Phillips. The brew unit is not a concern in any way for me. With regular recommended maintenance past and current brew units regularly go +10,000 brew cycles with no issues. If the brew group ever needs deep service it's a simple DIY process and the rebuild kit is
Excellent video ❤❤tfs
Very helpful
So excited I had to write something
The best thing I ever did was get a super automatic. Got a Phillips 3300 and it's so nice to be able to just make a nice drink fast in the morning. In contrast I almost never used my Breville Barista Express. That being said I should have gone to a higher end model, the drink selection is limited. Maybe next time I will get the Gaggia.
If you don't have access to all the main competitors in the segment, (e.g. KA KF8, Miele 6360, Bosch 800), then you probably shouldn't say these are the best - more like the best YOU have tried.
Hi T, Thanks for the comment. Correct, we are very selective in the products we recommend. Would not recommend anything we do not have extensive experience in personal use, feedback from customers and our service technicians.
WLL is the best !