I absolutely love the red as the accent for the black and white theme. It pops so well. If I were in a position to buy a machine, this version would probably top my list next to BKSOR.
I believe the b&w theme is to pay tribute to the original Godzilla film being a B&W movie. The new Godzilla film (minus zero) is also receiving a B&W release on home video. I wonder if the b&w theme makes it more difficult keeping track of the silver pinballs. If I had my druthers and an extra $10k, I would purchase the full color edition. Smart move by Stern making just many to meet the demand, but I don't know how exactly that would affect the reseller market.
Do a quick image search, Original Japanese Godzilla Movie Posters. Almost all of them have Bold Red Gogira in Enormous red letters. It's in accordance with 70 years of Godzilla advertising. Also... the first two Godzilla films are in black and white. My only complaint on the Original color Godzilla is the Hideously Ugly Watermelon color Godzilla. The 70th looks Amazing. The Metallic side cab art looks phenomenal, watch the stern video on a big 80 inch tv, I did, almost life size. It's my First NIB modern Stern I've ordered. Stern fixed the Watermelon, now I'm in. Great videos Sir Cheers.
Another one to add to the black and white list is the Munsters (again makes since given the age of the show) My wife and I own a GZ Premium and went through ~6 months of trying to acquire a NIB one back in 2023. Given it is one of the best received games of all time, I agree with any reason for them to keep producing it. As for the black and white vs. color; I too think that the color version will have far more staying power. Look at older games like centaur or space invaders that are also very black and white focused: they just don't have that same attractive color pop that brings wondering eyes to the game.
I think we'll see more "Special premium editions". Just not all B&W B&W fits for Munsters, GZ, etc. but I think the premium "Alternative arts" (To borrow from collectable card games) will be mostly like JP 30th or the other Elvira's. Just some new art to sell a few more units.
Coming on the heels of the tremendous backlash Stern received regarding Jaws and John Wick, this is an... _interesting_ move. The safer play would've been to reveal a brand new game with a solid design and a theme with actual mainstream appeal, something to make the naysayers shut their mouths and open their wallets. To instead put out a slightly dolled-up re-release of a fairly recent game that most Stern faithful likely already own is either the pinnacle of genius and bravery, or the height of stupidity and tone-deafness. I suppose the state of prices over the next few months will tell the tale.
The new "editions" completely killed the LE market. I think you brought up a great question. What is "exclusive"? I had a couple buddy's that only bought LE's and they stopped. I can only assume this isn't an isolated case. The B&W GZ looks neat but I would still prefer the original.
We'll disagree on this one but that's okay! I really like the B&W edition :) Though, I admit the fan art Blue highlight version I liked better than the red highlights
Thanks. I see this like editions of classic albums. I have cool versions from the day they were released….and great subsequent releases, which you can get if you only ever got the basic cd first time round. I have GZ pro - I may get this one as it’s an upgrade on what I have.
I appreciate this video as I do Triple Drain's. Tom, you seem to echo my attitude on these dubious releases. I had a deposit on GZ Premium for 2 years & once received, spent every day for the 1st 2 weeks trying to resolve that ball jam before the VUK. Now that it works , I wouldn't trade it for a B&W. As someone who recalls the release of the color TV , I prefer color & have no desire to return to B&W. personally, thank you.
I don't think LE means anything anymore. They will continue to do whatever they want that they believe will earn them anything. That's business and is fine. But I don't believe they should put limited on anything anymore. I also believe I will wait on some titles if it is not a must-have title. It is starting to show now that the era of everything sells out immediately is over. I have multiple LE's including Godzilla. I don't think I will buy anymore LE's unless it becomes more reasonable like it used to be. I can add everything to the game now to make it close to an LE at a much more reasonable cost including armor. They have killed that buyer IMO with the way they do business. I think the b/w versions are ok, not my cup of tea though.
Dude i think it's a sin what stern is doing, they're essentially recycling old titles, slap a new paint job, line it up with a decade anniversary, and watch the shills come running. It's a crazy and kinda sad time for pinball, let's go stern let your designers take on more projects. More projects, and shorter runs on production lines. The less games on a title the better, it helps them retain their value. This way you don't end up with a Venom Pro selling for $5k ONE YEAR after it's release? I think you guys should voice displeasure with stern, otherwise nothing will change, and poor godzilla 70 buyers keep trying to convince me this is a good buy when the better, more vivid and beautiful game already came out three years ago? Move on stern, let's gooooooooo...love ya tom ❤ excellent reportings
Stern is overdoing it on the Special Editions, and the bubble will pop at some point. I love the B&W art in Centaur. I would rather have that and a regular Godzilla instead of the 70th. Good video!
The red writing isn’t the problem, the playfield being devoid of any lvl of color shading makes it just too flat. I expected slight color or very highly desaturated portions to the field like BKE. The rest of the kit is nice the playfield just doesn’t work that well with Yeti’s art for me.
If they has converted this to Spike 3 i would have been in. I like the art well enough but it isn't a huge triumph over the existing version. This game has got to be at peak saturation so I'm not sure who the market for this is.
A buddy of mine thought Heat Ray Blue would have been a nice choice for an accent color. I think a point that should be mentioned is Stern priced it at normal premium pricing. I think that shows that they are aware of the current direction of the market.
I'm totally not a Godzilla guy -- the machine or the franchise -- but I respect that the game looks cool, and is more readable/playable due to fewer screaming color combinations.
Great video Tom. I own the Premium and like it a lot… If I didn’t have a GZ I would consider the B/W and maybe buy it over the colour version. Either version, it’s Godzilla pinball by Keith genius Elwin…!
@@Foxcitiespinball man that’s like the only title they haven’t Welched I would put money on. It’s a licensing issue rather than them actually being ethical though. Remember these were the times of transformers Le and X-Men and boy weren’t we all happy roflmao
As far as the "exclusive" topper mode, it's another play on words to screw over topper buyers like they do with anniversary editions to Le guys. If you listen to George, he says "new KOTM mode, yes new." So my guess is it's the same mode as the topper but not time attack. No clock, so it's probably how it plays in the actual game. im not sure I've never been that far. But yeah, lame i was hoping for a Jurassic sized update and got a mode i already own dumbed down.
Premium owner here. Totally agreeing with everything said in the stream. Cabinet looks good, don't like the rest and don't get the red. Happy staying with my color version.
As I Godzilla LE owner myself I’m a little annoyed they used the LE art for the cabinet but I think the color foil looks way better. Maybe the pics arent doing the black and white Godzilla justice and looks better in person but the Elvira version really popped in B&W and I’m just not getting that vibe on B&W Zilla, especially the playfield……Glad Stern have kept the premium pricing tho,
My question is, who’s buying this? They’re already everywhere on location and most collectors have one already. Why go to the well again? I know it’s a huge hit but there’s only so many buyers still wanting this
Godzilla is still selling, why not offer a new variation to entice previous buyers into a new edition. Other individuals waiting for a price drop on premiums, may finally pull the trigger and buy an original premium at a discounted cost. I don't really see any losers here. Deadpool, Iron Maiden, Jurassic Park have all had 5 plus year runs and people are still buying them. Godzilla hasn't reached that mark and it's argued to be the best pin of all time. I can't think of a single reason for Stern to stop making them.
The Godzilla logo was red in the Japanese 1954 posters
Hey Tom. Love this format of vids you've been doing. Also, really digging the new logo :)
Hey, thank you! ❤️
Whats not to like? Its more choice for new and existing owners. Choice is good.
id be mad if i bought a premium already, boy is it ever beautiful
I absolutely love the red as the accent for the black and white theme. It pops so well. If I were in a position to buy a machine, this version would probably top my list next to BKSOR.
@@Pennydude99 that’s awesome. Like I said I love the foil for the cabinet. It really pops
I believe the b&w theme is to pay tribute to the original Godzilla film being a B&W movie. The new Godzilla film (minus zero) is also receiving a B&W release on home video. I wonder if the b&w theme makes it more difficult keeping track of the silver pinballs. If I had my druthers and an extra $10k, I would purchase the full color edition. Smart move by Stern making just many to meet the demand, but I don't know how exactly that would affect the reseller market.
If I'm buying a premium Godzilla, I would choose this over the original premium. Can't wait to see this in person!
Do a quick image search,
Original Japanese Godzilla Movie Posters.
Almost all of them have Bold Red Gogira in Enormous red letters.
It's in accordance with 70 years of Godzilla advertising.
Also... the first two Godzilla films are in black and white.
My only complaint on the Original color Godzilla is the Hideously Ugly Watermelon color Godzilla.
The 70th looks Amazing.
The Metallic side cab art looks phenomenal, watch the stern video on a big 80 inch tv, I did, almost life size.
It's my First NIB modern Stern I've ordered.
Stern fixed the Watermelon, now I'm in.
Great videos Sir
Cheers.
godzilla premium special edition
Another one to add to the black and white list is the Munsters (again makes since given the age of the show)
My wife and I own a GZ Premium and went through ~6 months of trying to acquire a NIB one back in 2023. Given it is one of the best received games of all time, I agree with any reason for them to keep producing it. As for the black and white vs. color; I too think that the color version will have far more staying power. Look at older games like centaur or space invaders that are also very black and white focused: they just don't have that same attractive color pop that brings wondering eyes to the game.
Tom talks: Metallica want to hear your thoughts on rumors. Joel don't interrupt.
godzilla smash the play doh set
I think we'll see more "Special premium editions". Just not all B&W
B&W fits for Munsters, GZ, etc. but I think the premium "Alternative arts" (To borrow from collectable card games) will be mostly like JP 30th or the other Elvira's. Just some new art to sell a few more units.
Coming on the heels of the tremendous backlash Stern received regarding Jaws and John Wick, this is an... _interesting_ move. The safer play would've been to reveal a brand new game with a solid design and a theme with actual mainstream appeal, something to make the naysayers shut their mouths and open their wallets. To instead put out a slightly dolled-up re-release of a fairly recent game that most Stern faithful likely already own is either the pinnacle of genius and bravery, or the height of stupidity and tone-deafness. I suppose the state of prices over the next few months will tell the tale.
The new "editions" completely killed the LE market. I think you brought up a great question. What is "exclusive"? I had a couple buddy's that only bought LE's and they stopped. I can only assume this isn't an isolated case. The B&W GZ looks neat but I would still prefer the original.
Thank you for the video Tom. I am strong prottan colorblind and I totally agree with you. See you at Papa
We'll disagree on this one but that's okay!
I really like the B&W edition :)
Though, I admit the fan art Blue highlight version I liked better than the red highlights
Thanks. I see this like editions of classic albums. I have cool versions from the day they were released….and great subsequent releases, which you can get if you only ever got the basic cd first time round. I have GZ pro - I may get this one as it’s an upgrade on what I have.
I like the B/W version. Too poor for it but huge Godzilla fan.
King of the Monsters time attack will still be a topper-only feature. You just get to play the mode without completing the game.
I appreciate this video as I do Triple Drain's. Tom, you seem to echo my attitude on these dubious releases. I had a deposit on GZ Premium for 2 years & once received, spent every day for the 1st 2 weeks trying to resolve that ball jam before the VUK. Now that it works , I wouldn't trade it for a B&W. As someone who recalls the release of the color TV , I prefer color & have no desire to return to B&W. personally, thank you.
Thank you. 🙏❤️
I don't think LE means anything anymore. They will continue to do whatever they want that they believe will earn them anything. That's business and is fine. But I don't believe they should put limited on anything anymore. I also believe I will wait on some titles if it is not a must-have title. It is starting to show now that the era of everything sells out immediately is over. I have multiple LE's including Godzilla. I don't think I will buy anymore LE's unless it becomes more reasonable like it used to be. I can add everything to the game now to make it close to an LE at a much more reasonable cost including armor. They have killed that buyer IMO with the way they do business. I think the b/w versions are ok, not my cup of tea though.
Dude i think it's a sin what stern is doing, they're essentially recycling old titles, slap a new paint job, line it up with a decade anniversary, and watch the shills come running. It's a crazy and kinda sad time for pinball, let's go stern let your designers take on more projects. More projects, and shorter runs on production lines. The less games on a title the better, it helps them retain their value. This way you don't end up with a Venom Pro selling for $5k ONE YEAR after it's release? I think you guys should voice displeasure with stern, otherwise nothing will change, and poor godzilla 70 buyers keep trying to
convince me this is a good buy when the better, more vivid and beautiful game already came out three years ago? Move on stern, let's gooooooooo...love ya tom ❤ excellent reportings
Thanks Walt! 🙏❤️
Stern is overdoing it on the Special Editions, and the bubble will pop at some point. I love the B&W art in Centaur. I would rather have that and a regular Godzilla instead of the 70th. Good video!
@@MrERNEST2011 thank you. I agree. How many versions can they keep releasing
The red writing isn’t the problem, the playfield being devoid of any lvl of color shading makes it just too flat. I expected slight color or very highly desaturated portions to the field like BKE. The rest of the kit is nice the playfield just doesn’t work that well with Yeti’s art for me.
If they has converted this to Spike 3 i would have been in. I like the art well enough but it isn't a huge triumph over the existing version. This game has got to be at peak saturation so I'm not sure who the market for this is.
A buddy of mine thought Heat Ray Blue would have been a nice choice for an accent color.
I think a point that should be mentioned is Stern priced it at normal premium pricing. I think that shows that they are aware of the current direction of the market.
Good choice! I like that too.
I just think it’s too close to the Rudy Red Elvira edition tbh.
@@Foxcitiespinball I agree, but less glitter.
agree it makes you think twice about buying something thinking a special edition may be coming that you like better
But you can die waiting for that perfect version…
I'm totally not a Godzilla guy -- the machine or the franchise -- but I respect that the game looks cool, and is more readable/playable due to fewer screaming color combinations.
Great video Tom. I own the Premium and like it a lot… If I didn’t have a GZ I would consider the B/W and maybe buy it over the colour version. Either version, it’s Godzilla pinball by Keith genius Elwin…!
@@koenlauwaert5970 Keith is best. Guy makes awesome designs.
Stern is taking cues from the video gaming industry with these "Game of the Year" deluxe/premium/super mondo slap ya momma editions.
@@chadalexander1924 🤣very true
It's Elvira all over again, are they even different other than draining the color? At least Godzilla makes more sense in B&W
But they still haven’t broken that oath on the tron le lol
Yet!
@@Foxcitiespinball man that’s like the only title they haven’t Welched I would put money on. It’s a licensing issue rather than them actually being ethical though. Remember these were the times of transformers Le and X-Men and boy weren’t we all happy roflmao
I like the way it looks but I really thought they would use green as the accent color but I do still like the way this one looks
Yeah I think green would have been great but maybe they wanted to stay away since they wanted Godzilla to be greyish tone.
@Foxcitiespinball yeah I thought about that as well
As far as the "exclusive" topper mode, it's another play on words to screw over topper buyers like they do with anniversary editions to Le guys. If you listen to George, he says "new KOTM mode, yes new." So my guess is it's the same mode as the topper but not time attack. No clock, so it's probably how it plays in the actual game. im not sure I've never been that far. But yeah, lame i was hoping for a Jurassic sized update and got a mode i already own dumbed down.
This will be a different challenge mode. Topper one is still exclusive I have been told.
Looks sick as fuck
Stern get the words included and inclusive mixed up
I think the 70th edition is cool, but not for me. I'm Happy with my premium.
Premium owner here. Totally agreeing with everything said in the stream. Cabinet looks good, don't like the rest and don't get the red. Happy staying with my color version.
Stren?
@@harposhi I changed it. Thank you
As I Godzilla LE owner myself I’m a little annoyed they used the LE art for the cabinet but I think the color foil looks way better. Maybe the pics arent doing the black and white Godzilla justice and looks better in person but the Elvira version really popped in B&W and I’m just not getting that vibe on B&W Zilla, especially the playfield……Glad Stern have kept the premium pricing tho,
My question is, who’s buying this? They’re already everywhere on location and most collectors have one already. Why go to the well again? I know it’s a huge hit but there’s only so many buyers still wanting this
@@joeb3008 that is a great point
Godzilla is still selling, why not offer a new variation to entice previous buyers into a new edition. Other individuals waiting for a price drop on premiums, may finally pull the trigger and buy an original premium at a discounted cost.
I don't really see any losers here. Deadpool, Iron Maiden, Jurassic Park have all had 5 plus year runs and people are still buying them. Godzilla hasn't reached that mark and it's argued to be the best pin of all time. I can't think of a single reason for Stern to stop making them.
Another stern fail....
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