To bad that heavy armors are not that useful (never was really), heavies are the best looking armors in the game in my opinion. Given how fragile we are with any armor its just much better to rock medic light Trench Paramedic armor and you get that increased mobility of light armors and more stims, which makes it objectively the best armor in the game. For another Juggernaut build you could use: Armor: Fortified Commando or Butcher Primary: SMG-37 Defender (it was buffed) Secondary: GP-31 Grenade Pistol Grenade: G-123 Thermite Support Weapon: MG-43 or MG-206 HMG Backpack: SH-20 Ballistic Shield Stratagems: Orbital Napalm Barrage, Orbital Railcannon Strike, SH-20 BS, MG-43 or MG-206 HMG Booster: Your choice
The MG-43 stagger force buff actually acts as a massive nerf on the Bot front. When shooting Heavy Devastators, their shield will now recoil up covering their whole face making them practically invulnerable from the front. This increases TTK to an unreasonable degree. The change should either be reverted or the Heavy Devastators need their stagger force resistance buffed to compensate.
Why would you buff a mob to compensate for a gun that isn't made to fight them? Bad suggestion dude. Use heavyMG for bots otherwise you have to swallow that shit sandwich you made for yourself dropping in with that machinegun
@@OrphanOfDarkness All due respect but that is a very ill informed statement. You either don’t know how to use the MG-43 properly, or are unaware of how to build around it to make it viable for Bots. The MG-43 and HMG are two different weapons offering unique play styles and most importantly, are made to fill completely different roles. The MG-43 is meant to deal with medium armour and below and it preforms well in this area. It offers a higher total ammo capacity, a larger magazine and has superior handling making it the more ideal pick for clearing on both the Bot and Bug font. The HMG on the other hand has less than half the total ammo capacity, half the magazine size and heavy armour pen making it the more ideal choice for taking out heavier armoured enemies. Its biggest advantages (to the best of my knowledge) on the Bot front is its ability to take out Hulks from the front, pen Striders upper plate and has a higher TTK in general. It is better suited for (but not unique to) dealing with Gunships, Factory Striders and Tank/ Turret weak spots. All of these advantages can be mitigated or completely resolved with the right build. The MG-43 has no trouble dealing with Devastator variants including Heavy Devastators. The changes made to the weapon following the update simply broke its ability to preform well in an area it is absolutely intended to be utilized in. This is why I suggested the change be made. I also stated that they could simply revert the MG-43 stagger force back from 20-15. No “buff” to Heavy Devastators needed. In summary, different weapons are used for different effect. Comparing weapons that are better suited to fill different roles doesn’t solely warrant ones usability over the other. They all offer unique benefits and play styles within the game. This was kinda the whole point the most recent “buff everything” update… I hope this is able to answer some of the things you mentioned and offers a better explanation on my part.
I noticed several times you stopped your advance or altered course to avoid your rover's laser, so here's a tip. Bind a convenient key to toggle the side of your aim mode shoulder cam. The rover will swing to your other shoulder, creating an opening for you. I've never had it shoot me while it's switching shoulders.
I love to see it. One of my favs in this combo is the crossbow and stalwart. Really helpful if you end up getting a bile spewer planet or a hunter heavy planet. Mix with the shield gen to stand your ground more effectively. Not perfect but it feels good to have anything smaller than a charger melted
A supply pack, thermite, and peak physique are my go to for any MG build.
The MG43 stagger buff helps out alot with the stalkers as well as it interrupts the nursing and bile spewers when they spit
Curious why so many people continue to insist on Rover when Liberator Guard Dog has been proven objectively better. But nice loadout regardless
Rover has infinite ammo
@@lauroseibert the regular guard dog has stagger , which I feel like is more useful because it’s really easy to refill aswell
You're right bro, but bug guys don't wanna hear it 😂 it also goes for critical spots better and team kills way less 👌
@@Shatsfired I'll give it a try! I didnt know it also staggers enemies
It's such a force of habit picking the Rover over the Liberator and I agree it is much better. I have to break the old habit
sir what the fuck are you doing not fighting bots rn
Not wanting to deal with ragdoll hell.
Constant ragdolls and the fact that armor doesn't mean shit against bots now
I have a hundred hours in this game and I think I've played the bots twice.
To bad that heavy armors are not that useful (never was really), heavies are the best looking armors in the game in my opinion. Given how fragile we are with any armor its just much better to rock medic light Trench Paramedic armor and you get that increased mobility of light armors and more stims, which makes it objectively the best armor in the game.
For another Juggernaut build you could use:
Armor: Fortified Commando or Butcher
Primary: SMG-37 Defender (it was buffed)
Secondary: GP-31 Grenade Pistol
Grenade: G-123 Thermite
Support Weapon: MG-43 or MG-206 HMG
Backpack: SH-20 Ballistic Shield
Stratagems: Orbital Napalm Barrage, Orbital Railcannon Strike, SH-20 BS, MG-43 or MG-206 HMG
Booster: Your choice
We need you on the bot fron. The Democracy Space Station will not build itself.
The MG-43 stagger force buff actually acts as a massive nerf on the Bot front.
When shooting Heavy Devastators, their shield will now recoil up covering their whole face making them practically invulnerable from the front. This increases TTK to an unreasonable degree.
The change should either be reverted or the Heavy Devastators need their stagger force resistance buffed to compensate.
Why would you buff a mob to compensate for a gun that isn't made to fight them? Bad suggestion dude. Use heavyMG for bots otherwise you have to swallow that shit sandwich you made for yourself dropping in with that machinegun
@@OrphanOfDarkness All due respect but that is a very ill informed statement. You either don’t know how to use the MG-43 properly, or are unaware of how to build around it to make it viable for Bots.
The MG-43 and HMG are two different weapons offering unique play styles and most importantly, are made to fill completely different roles. The MG-43 is meant to deal with medium armour and below and it preforms well in this area. It offers a higher total ammo capacity, a larger magazine and has superior handling making it the more ideal pick for clearing on both the Bot and Bug font.
The HMG on the other hand has less than half the total ammo capacity, half the magazine size and heavy armour pen making it the more ideal choice for taking out heavier armoured enemies. Its biggest advantages (to the best of my knowledge) on the Bot front is its ability to take out Hulks from the front, pen Striders upper plate and has a higher TTK in general. It is better suited for (but not unique to) dealing with Gunships, Factory Striders and Tank/ Turret weak spots. All of these advantages can be mitigated or completely resolved with the right build.
The MG-43 has no trouble dealing with Devastator variants including Heavy Devastators. The changes made to the weapon following the update simply broke its ability to preform well in an area it is absolutely intended to be utilized in. This is why I suggested the change be made.
I also stated that they could simply revert the MG-43 stagger force back from 20-15. No “buff” to Heavy Devastators needed.
In summary, different weapons are used for different effect. Comparing weapons that are better suited to fill different roles doesn’t solely warrant ones usability over the other. They all offer unique benefits and play styles within the game. This was kinda the whole point the most recent “buff everything” update…
I hope this is able to answer some of the things you mentioned and offers a better explanation on my part.
charger butts break in like 2s on full 900rpm with the MG, not bad at all tbh
Dude thanks for the loadout in the description, looks pretty solid to me!
even if you yourself dont "need" samples super earth and its war effort does
What’s your main? Slugger ?
11:29 not from explosion, but from your rover 😂😂
@11:20 lol, I think your dog roasted him
That skybox is looking so good though.
I noticed several times you stopped your advance or altered course to avoid your rover's laser, so here's a tip. Bind a convenient key to toggle the side of your aim mode shoulder cam. The rover will swing to your other shoulder, creating an opening for you. I've never had it shoot me while it's switching shoulders.
How many friendlies did that stop it from shooting though ? 😂 jk
You can also look up to make the Rover ascend higher
ey man, thanks for posting your loadout in the description. Subscribed
I love to see it. One of my favs in this combo is the crossbow and stalwart. Really helpful if you end up getting a bile spewer planet or a hunter heavy planet. Mix with the shield gen to stand your ground more effectively. Not perfect but it feels good to have anything smaller than a charger melted