Getting strange looks by the mrs whilst l watch this. Hearing the train motors and rails takes me back to when l used to the Catford Loop service to Holborn Viaduct . Then go to work at the now gone sorting office next door to St Barts hospital, happy memories.
A very interesting video, helpfully showing the basic requirement of any cab ride, the names of the stations. The bull-head track rails were much in evidence throughout and caused the railway sound we who are older remember well. This was complemented by the pleasant ring of the signal acknowledgement bell. Thanks for posting the video.
There are some 60ft but it is nearly all flatbottom pandrol clipped. by this date sidings being the only place you would find bullhead apart from the Arsenal semi sub sections and the notorious screaming check rails on the tight curves there in
I remember a journey like this between Charing Cross to Charlton. I asked the driver if he was stopping at my stop, he said, 'no', but he offered me a journey in the cab. When we got to Charlton he stopped at the head of the platform to let me off!
The drivers back then were like that.They were very considerate and would sometimes stop an out of service train to give one a lift.Othertimes would suddenly stop the train from pulling out if driver could see you running.Far less rules back then.Them times had character along with them old school Victorian style trains.
@@simoncollins6248i was just watching an old video. Me being the nostalgic young man i am, i much prefer the way lower London bridge was to what it is now. The upper platforms are fine, not too much has changed there.
Quite funny to see the Plat 7/7a headshunt there, put in place at some great cost and quite a bit of remodelling work esp for the S&T... then SR decided they didn't want it and tasked Thumpers in for the "bankers" commuter services making it instantly redundant. Just wondering if me old man was there that day on Plat 1-6/Spur panel aka the Widowmaker, it withered hale and hearty men during the rush hours where trains would be block to block locked down to some stupid passenger causing problems, I remember one day going in with the old man a drunk bloke got off the train the wrong side ending up on the track at New Cross and another time again at New Cross a chap needing the lav decided to do it out the window and something zapped off as the current travelled northwards...
I always remembered the "Sarson's Malt Vinegar" sign. There was another semi circular one at the end of the building too at one point. Good to see it wasn't something I had imagined.
interesting...the mind-blowing comprehensiveness of all that tracking there has just made me realise that only one of our own six in-town termini here now remains, yet it was the youngest of them all by at least 50 years' time.
Those old SR/BR units were lovely old things. Spent many happy hours working on them, including the Jaffa-Cakes on the "1066 Route" Singing traction motors, old EE co equipment, whirring mg sets, at of course the old Westinghouse DH25 compressors ticking away. Glad I'm retired. Once the new stock came in, the railway I knew and loved vanished, to be replaced by backstabbers, incompetent ( at best ) management, and of course those dreadful 375/377 plastic souless things. Miss the old DEMUs too, and the days when pretty much anything would couple to anything, and there was still a service in the snow.
Brilliant batch of videos you shared. I picked up 2 VHS videos at a swapmeet a number of years ago which, if i recall, appear to be very similar. One shows a Broad Street to Richmond service on a 501, and other is a Euston to Watford service also on a 501. I managed to trace the driver who filmed them just as Croxley Green depot was closing and he said he had filmed numerous journeys on the North London line, both passenger and freight. He showed me an incredible journey from Devons Bow Road to Willesden on a class 20 hauling withdrawn steam locomotives.
Wow those videos sound fantastic - I've been trying to find cabview footage on the NNL with the Class 501s for years, didn't think it existed! To see the lines as they were then, with the old stock, original Broad Street terminus & Croxley Green depot, would be amazing! Any chance of sharing the actual title/publisher of the videos?
@@Barison82 Sorry for hugely delayed reply. I will dig them out and see if i can get them uploaded. The video cases are unmarked with just the drivers name on them, date and journey. If i remember rightly (getting old here !!) he took them for his own personal memoirs but was frequently asked by railfans if they could have a copy.
@@RailwayDan Hello and not at all - thanks for getting back to me as I'd actually forgotten about this completely!! Wow - if you are able to get those uploaded that would be absolutely fantastic and very much appreciated! They'd be something really special to see. Love the old 501 stock and that line as it existed then. Footage like that is extremely thin on the ground, and cabviews of both NLL branches on that old stock would be amazing. Would be a good opportunity to get them digitally backed up as well - very precious records there. Cheers, Alex
Takes me back. There was a staff canteen at Victoria accessed by some stairs down over on the left as we view here, all retail units now. I've looked for it, but it has gone.
2:30 Next to the water column right up til the late 70's there used to be a coaler shed that covered over the track prob a coaling and watering stage for the Central division trains due to the major issues of getting loco's over to the Kent lines in order to get down to Bricklayer's works.
Great video. Note the building over the west side of Victoria station still isn't completed here, also plenty of blue/grey stock and EPBs running around, and jaffa cake livery as well. At a guess I'd say that puts the date at about 1987.
In contrast, much more litter on the tracks than today, and the stations in general much more run down and less well used. Of course the most effective track weedkillers used in the 1980s are banned today, or at least highly restricted.
Except the purple om on the wall at Peckham Rye, the first days of rave as this is '88 or '89 :-D One of the best tabs back in the day i might add!! :-D
When I look at Google Maps there is a line that comes in from the left between South Bermondsey and Queens Road Peckham. But no line comes in when watching the video. What's up with this?
It's the new Overground link from Surrey Quays that now goes to Clapham Junction - and is the reason you could not now replicate the journey recorded here. The South London line is severed at Battersea Park and there is now no service between London Bridge and Victoria; a sad end to the oldest electrified surface rail route south of the Thames. Overground do run very rare trips up to the Park from Wandsworth Road, but you couldn't call it a service...
And the scene just before South Bermondsey is radically different today also. Not only the remodelled track layout and Bermondsey fly-under, but neither the Millwall football ground nor the adjacent power station were built when this was filmed.
The sound of the motors and the sound of the jointed rails take me back nearly 50 years, loved travelling on these old units.
Getting strange looks by the mrs whilst l watch this. Hearing the train motors and rails takes me back to when l used to the Catford Loop service to Holborn Viaduct . Then go to work at the now gone sorting office next door to St Barts hospital, happy memories.
A very interesting video, helpfully showing the basic requirement of any cab ride, the names of the stations. The bull-head track rails were much in evidence throughout and caused the railway sound we who are older remember well. This was complemented by the pleasant ring of the signal acknowledgement bell. Thanks for posting the video.
There are some 60ft but it is nearly all flatbottom pandrol clipped. by this date sidings being the only place you would find bullhead apart from the Arsenal semi sub sections and the notorious screaming check rails on the tight curves there in
Excellent footage/nostalgia, as a Northern Ned trying to negotiate the SR Network it brings back many happy memories, thanks !
I remember a journey like this between Charing Cross to Charlton. I asked the driver if he was stopping at my stop, he said, 'no', but he offered me a journey in the cab. When we got to Charlton he stopped at the head of the platform to let me off!
The drivers back then were like that.They were very considerate and would sometimes stop an out of service train to give one a lift.Othertimes would suddenly stop the train from pulling out if driver could see you running.Far less rules back then.Them times had character along with them old school Victorian style trains.
@@IanNorman-uu7jx another world and London Bridge now is unrecognisable!!!
@@simoncollins6248 Totally agree
This sounds sooooo cool man😔
@@simoncollins6248i was just watching an old video. Me being the nostalgic young man i am, i much prefer the way lower London bridge was to what it is now. The upper platforms are fine, not too much has changed there.
Quite funny to see the Plat 7/7a headshunt there, put in place at some great cost and quite a bit of remodelling work esp for the S&T... then SR decided they didn't want it and tasked Thumpers in for the "bankers" commuter services making it instantly redundant. Just wondering if me old man was there that day on Plat 1-6/Spur panel aka the Widowmaker, it withered hale and hearty men during the rush hours where trains would be block to block locked down to some stupid passenger causing problems, I remember one day going in with the old man a drunk bloke got off the train the wrong side ending up on the track at New Cross and another time again at New Cross a chap needing the lav decided to do it out the window and something zapped off as the current travelled northwards...
I always remembered the "Sarson's Malt Vinegar" sign. There was another semi circular one at the end of the building too at one point. Good to see it wasn't something I had imagined.
interesting...the mind-blowing comprehensiveness of all that tracking there has just made me realise that only one of our own six in-town termini here now remains, yet it was the youngest of them all by at least 50 years' time.
Those old SR/BR units were lovely old things. Spent many happy hours working on them, including the Jaffa-Cakes on the "1066 Route" Singing traction motors, old EE co equipment, whirring mg sets, at of course the old Westinghouse DH25 compressors ticking away. Glad I'm retired. Once the new stock came in, the railway I knew and loved vanished, to be replaced by backstabbers, incompetent ( at best ) management, and of course those dreadful 375/377 plastic souless things. Miss the old DEMUs too, and the days when pretty much anything would couple to anything, and there was still a service in the snow.
only one of our in-town six termini remains, and it was the youngest of them by at least 50 years...blame impishly shortsighted corporateers
I remember it well. I still think the 415/416 were better than networkers.
Solid, reliable, with a reassuring sound. The 415s were particularly stylish and epitomised 1950s design. Much missed in my opinion.
Great sound
Este som do dínamo me fez lembrar dos antigos na década de 80 aqui no Brasil.
See the old wooden planked platform at South Bermondsey was still going strong back then.
Would say this was taken c. 1988/89.
Brilliant batch of videos you shared. I picked up 2 VHS videos at a swapmeet a number of years ago which, if i recall, appear to be very similar. One shows a Broad Street to Richmond service on a 501, and other is a Euston to Watford service also on a 501. I managed to trace the driver who filmed them just as Croxley Green depot was closing and he said he had filmed numerous journeys on the North London line, both passenger and freight. He showed me an incredible journey from Devons Bow Road to Willesden on a class 20 hauling withdrawn steam locomotives.
Wow those videos sound fantastic - I've been trying to find cabview footage on the NNL with the Class 501s for years, didn't think it existed! To see the lines as they were then, with the old stock, original Broad Street terminus & Croxley Green depot, would be amazing! Any chance of sharing the actual title/publisher of the videos?
@@Barison82 Sorry for hugely delayed reply. I will dig them out and see if i can get them uploaded. The video cases are unmarked with just the drivers name on them, date and journey. If i remember rightly (getting old here !!) he took them for his own personal memoirs but was frequently asked by railfans if they could have a copy.
@@RailwayDan Hello and not at all - thanks for getting back to me as I'd actually forgotten about this completely!! Wow - if you are able to get those uploaded that would be absolutely fantastic and very much appreciated! They'd be something really special to see. Love the old 501 stock and that line as it existed then. Footage like that is extremely thin on the ground, and cabviews of both NLL branches on that old stock would be amazing. Would be a good opportunity to get them digitally backed up as well - very precious records there. Cheers, Alex
Takes me back. There was a staff canteen at Victoria accessed by some stairs down over on the left as we view here, all retail units now. I've looked for it, but it has gone.
2:30 Next to the water column right up til the late 70's there used to be a coaler shed that covered over the track prob a coaling and watering stage for the Central division trains due to the major issues of getting loco's over to the Kent lines in order to get down to Bricklayer's works.
nice video and nice to see some old trains knocking about
I was struck by how much of the trip was at roof-top level. Think how much labour and millions of bricks that took.
It reminds me of locations for The Bill, with lockups under the railway.
@@brucewilliams8714 Probably many now trendy wine-bars.
the only such viaducting we have is barely ¼ mile long and its 1930s concrete has just been refreshed
Excellent and Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
What a nice quiet route from London Bridge to London Victoria, 😃
Clapham High Street @ 14:53 once voted the worst railway station in London in 1980s. Bit different now as part of London Overground.
Sounds like our old electric trains :)
KrotowX mid 1980s at a guess
Back garden route. Like all the trees trackside.
Great video.
Note the building over the west side of Victoria station still isn't completed here, also plenty of blue/grey stock and EPBs running around, and jaffa cake livery as well. At a guess I'd say that puts the date at about 1987.
Site of East Brixton station at 12.30 closed in 1976 and demolished
No graffiti or weeds/buddleia.
In contrast, much more litter on the tracks than today, and the stations in general much more run down and less well used. Of course the most effective track weedkillers used in the 1980s are banned today, or at least highly restricted.
Except the purple om on the wall at Peckham Rye, the first days of rave as this is '88 or '89 :-D
One of the best tabs back in the day i might add!! :-D
When I look at Google Maps there is a line that comes in from the left between South Bermondsey and Queens Road Peckham. But no line comes in when watching the video. What's up with this?
5 mins 7 seconds, was disused at the time.
It's the new Overground link from Surrey Quays that now goes to Clapham Junction - and is the reason you could not now replicate the journey recorded here. The South London line is severed at Battersea Park and there is now no service between London Bridge and Victoria; a sad end to the oldest electrified surface rail route south of the Thames. Overground do run very rare trips up to the Park from Wandsworth Road, but you couldn't call it a service...
And the scene just before South Bermondsey is radically different today also. Not only the remodelled track layout and Bermondsey fly-under, but neither the Millwall football ground nor the adjacent power station were built when this was filmed.
@@kevinfowkes2327 which route passes the old Den ?
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where does the line to the left go after leaving Peckham rye ?
Tulse Hill Selhurst E/W Croydon etc.
Years