Ami Horowitz: Should George Washington University Change Its Name?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Ami Horowitz took to the campus of George Washington University to see how many students are willing to change the name of their university considering that Washington was a slaveowner.
Absolutely embarrassing. I'm 16 years old and I think George Washington is one of, if not the greatest leader of all time.
Washington is my favorite President. This is so depressing.
The man tried to free his slaves but Virginia was a difficult state to work with. Even in death, it was his will that they'd be free, but the state wouldn't allow it for many since his wife was alive. Could he have fought more for abolition? Yeah. Anybody can always do more. But he was a respected man worldwide.
Carlos Rodriguez am not sure Washington can use the law as an excuse. I think there were also laws against mounting an armed rebellion.
silly sailor Well, to be fair, America was kinda tired of war after the Revolution- the small Shay's Rebellion terrified them so much they tossed the Articles of Confederation. An attempted rebellion by anyone to abolish slavery would have cemented support for slavery, with abolitionists viewed as the villain. That's why it was illegal to release slaves, even inherited ones, in Virginia, where Washington and Jefferson lived (and no, they couldn't just move and do it-they'd have to sell the slaves if they moved to a free state)-people feared a slave revolt more than anything, as slaves outnumbered freed men in most slave states.
To put it in context for you, Thomas Jefferson put forth a law in the Virginia congress to allow slaves to be freed as he wanted to free his slaves-that was illegal. It failed by just one vote, despite Jefferson's best efforts, as the people feared a rebellion by slaves like you propose. While people vilify Washington and Jefferson as rich white slave owners, the Founding Fathers that are remembered were all anti-slavery, which speaks to our country's nature.
Also, just cause you own slaves does not mean you starve them, beat them, rape them, and work them to death. The concept of owning another person does not seem crazy (kids are your belongings), but if you assault that person and keep them without basic necessities then it becomes messed up.
silly sailor Freeing them regardless of the law would have been worse for these slaves. They would have likely been found and sold to a less humane owner. It had to be done legally; if not, living in the Washington estate was their next best option.
I'm saying that people say all the time when they bring up slavery that "owning another person is unthinkable". People own kids, this is 'thinkable'. Your kids are your possessions. If they run away, the cops will return them. If you tell them they cannot do something, they cannot do it, and you are allowed to punish them if they disobey you.
Now, I know this is NOT an equivalent to 18th century slavery, it is more like indentured servitude. You belong to someone for a set amount of time. When that time expires, you are free to go. Being a slave, you could never know if you would be released or not. If a person wants to sell themselves into that, go for it. Slaves did not have a choice.
There's kids nowadays are not being taught well. Sad.
jared they are getting taught... they’re just being brainwashed by liberals
"We've restrospectively mythologised this concept of liberty and freedom" O- ho- ho!
What these marxists are doing is retrospectively vilifying the concept of liberty and freedom.
I’m sure he loves hearing himself speak.
Peoplekind Sleep on. :*
Peoplekind, you are literally arguing against Liberty and freedom. And being smug about it too.
You are a harmful idiot.
I think we should take down the Obama statue. Offended by what he did splitting up this country. Let the snow ❄️ complaining begin.
William Britt
I would agree.
Jesus! While Washington was flawed, he was a human and product of his times. I think his contributions outweigh his sins or transgressions. Context is important.
I can't think of any flaws.
Idi Amin
Nope, not for his time. We can't judge people 250 years ago by today standards. I Am sure 250 years from now people are gonna see these people as bad for trying to destroy a whole culture. Well shit, I already do. Looks like the wrong kids got aborted.
andrew t Exactly. If we held all historical figures to a standard of sjw perfection than we'd have no statues left. Even their own precious icons were flawed.
andrew t humans are flawed in general. I don't see way we have to treat that as offer. He did more good then bad
What I heard one girl say is history isn't important anymore. This I why we are repeating mistakes of the past and a lot of people don't see it. It's just happening in a different way. There is a pattern of swinging from one side of the pendulum to the other. That is why history is important.
"I dont agree with the slave trade" *wears hijab*
'Has an opinion', expresses her religion. So what's the problem?
The girl doesn’t.
And besides... muslims aren’t the only ones.
"Don't agree with the slave trade" Islamic slave trade biggest Slave Trade known to man lol.
Rem Mohammad, her prophet, was a slaver. She is a hypocrite. The hijab on her head is a symbol of oppression used to forcifully suppress most muslim women. As a western muslim she has chosen to not only follow a slaver, rapist, murderering pedophile but also adorn herself with a symbol of female subjugation. Shitting on george Washington when she is the follower of man who committed countless atrocities is ridiculous.
These are students? The clueless ones.
LOL just about to write that
Are you kidding me, he is one of our founding fathers. We charish and uphold his accomplishments not the fact he was a slave owner.
This pisses me off the guy that literally gave America freedom and you can’t give him a university named after him
I hate people who want to hide or destroy our history. History is substantial. Without it we are nothing. Honor and embrace our history good or bad, strive to do better, and believe in a better future.
In times of war and hardship, the nation bred strong men and women. In good times, a nation breed ingrates. Check your history how each empire fell.
"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves." D. H. Lawrence.
Yea, I was thinking when those who only knows how to take words literally will show up.
*Mind blown*
Never have i taken it that way.
"I don't agree with the slave trade" we'll no duh
Jesus wept...
ANKO-Chan Baker Just think, Jesus saw and knew all the stupid stuff would happen and yet he still decided to die.
TheOneTemplar TheLastTemplar "while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
There gotta be something in the water that makes our students irredeemably stupid and riddled with ignorance & acne.
Alex Spadge It's called the education system. Teach your kids how to think and not what to think. If you teach them to value truth and freedom hopefully they will do well.
It’s the fluoride and soy products they eat
washington did those slaves a favor. He was a good master and treated his slaves fairly. if he didn't own them they were required by law to be owned by someone. most likely by a terrible person.
these are the antagonists in the upcoming war
Brett Allen Fuck off with your upcoming war bullshit, the tensions arent even at the level where either side but its fringes could consider war, and besides, by supporting the idea that a war could arise, you are only legitimising the views of those fringes.
Piet Andersen being prepared for a war doesn't hurt. Being prepared for a disaster doesn't mean you want it to happen. Does insurance mean you intend to crash your vehicle or get cancer etc? Rainy day and all that. Same as w firearms - tou don't necessarily think you'll need to use it, but fuck not having it should the need arise.
So what exactly is the difference here? Is it because the fringes are racist and therefore we need to be bound by their perspectives in some respect?
If there is a war, the opposition to crazy lefties should not preach itself to be righties. Come across as moderate and sensible.
who judges what is sensible? and why is moderate a good thing when it means partially communist?
Brett Allen Are you stupid? I dont want gun control either, but actively noting that there is going to be a war, when there clearly wont be, yet, is just stupid.
If those first kids are the "future" then we're screwed
Prismo The Modeller
FUTURE
There must be copious amounts of stupid in the water these days.
The guy at the end has common sense and morals. Thank God there's still at least one person out there that still believes in our founding fathers and right to freedom and liberty.
With out him, slavery would have lasted for many years, not just in america but in the world!
Should they change the name of this video?
What do you guys think, leave a comment below :)
There is no discussion. It would be of the utmost disrespect to that great man to change the name of any institution that bears his name.
God bless the man at the end. 👍👍👏👏👏👏🇺🇸
Freaks
Makes me sick to hear this
If we change the name of every institution that had been named after a person, there would be no end. No one is perfect. No one is spotless. We try to emulate the best parts of the person's character or lifestyle. But whomsoever is without sin, cast the first stone.
I can’t believe they want to change the name, and tear down statues. These kids are nuts!
“We’ve sort of retrospectively mythologized this concept of liberty and freedom.” Really? This is how far they’re going to go? Belittling liberty and freedom? This is why we can’t have nice things.
I'm amazed so many people want to change the name of GW. No mention of his role as commander of the Continental Army or that he freed his slaves. He was falsely accused of being involved in the slave trade.
God no they need to keep it he was one of the men who made America, a founding father, and one of if not the greatest General in American history.
Did people forget that he freed all his slaves when his wife died, I can't believe that people see him as a slave owner more than the honest, strong leader that lead us the people to independence. #dontchangethename
I think him being the first President of the United States overpowers the fact that he owned slaves in a time when people owned slaves. It's too bad that he did own slaves, but he was an amazing Revolutionary war general and a founding father of this nation.
If the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the name George Washington is that he was a slave owner, that means you've never opened a book on American history in your life. I am not American and I only learned that GW owned slaves this year. I did know that he was one of the most important people in the founding of the US for more than twenty years of my life, however.
You can’t judge historical figures by modern standards, then you can literally throw away all of history. Can’t you just celebrate a person for the historical impact they made? They don’t have to conform to modern morality in every aspect of their lives to deserve praise.
Slave ownership while being immoral is not different to saying abortions are ok.
How about Farthington? Has a nice ring to it, should only cost a few hundred billion, to change everything that is. We could have Farthington U, Farthington Everythingskins (football), Farthington Blvd (in every city in the country), should be a cinch. Let's get started right away.
The fact that dude said the first thing he thinks of being slavery when he hears the name George Washington is fucking ridiculous
What a Sad state of the country we live in. Slavery was normal worldwide in the 1700s. Yes the past is filled with evil and horrible Acts that were committed. But we got rid of it. I would say that his contributions to the country far surpasses him owning slaves which was considered a worldwide Norm for that time.
The problem is most children today aren't taught actual historical facts. Such as, George Washington advocated the end of slavery, he was one of the first in his age. He attempted to release his slaves, but in Virginia it was actually against the law for him to do so. The only options available to him were to release them at death, so he paid them while they were alive. At his death bed, left a fortune to his slaves, he had purchased them land so that they could start a life of freedom that he had wanted for them in life.
Another fact most people are not taught, Thomas Jefferson has not been proven to have slept with his slaves. The guy that did the DNA testing has flat out said the information spread about this is not true. There are familial similarities but more likely from his brother, there was a very quiet media retraction after they spread the nonsense around to begin with. Jefferson also was against slavery, his former slaves founded a country and named a city after Thomas Jefferson.
70% for changing and 30% against it, but there seemed to be many undecided. Were they not counted?
I think we should change the name of those students that want it changed. Taking recommendations.
Its almost like he is saying the constitution is what makes America great.
Is anyone else JUST getting the notification, 6 days late?
It probably is. Just like being the only conservative in my college classes.
it sounds like they haven,t been "given " their opionion quite yet.
0:55 I don't think this girl has ever even heard of chapstick. She can't be expected to know anything about the founding fathers.
70%
I'm gonna need two helicopters for this...
Suggestion: give the interviewees a list of Washington’s accomplishments; the number of battles he fought in is truly amazing. He risked his neck many, many times for this country’s freedom.
Then, ask them what THEY have contributed to thIs country; …likely nothing. As unaccomplished do-nothings, how do they figure their opinion carries weight against someone whose accomplishments they will never come close to matching.
We obviously don’t teach Civics anymore...epic failure of our Education System.
Q: "What's the first thing that comes to mind when I say 'George Washington'"?
A: "I think about him owning slaves, yeah".
I'm sorry, WHAT?
Martin Luther King Jr. promoted & provoked violence at the beginning of his political career. Should we tear down all of his statues as well? Can we just appreciate someone's accomplishments for once instead of renouncing them for their sins? I could go and vandalise MLK statues in the name of all of the people he harmed or I could celebrate the non-violent movements he popularised. I choose the latter, because A) tearing down history is stupid, and B) As MLK said, hate cannot drive out hate.
Looks like that one guy is pointing to his friend when he says, "this is one of our founding fathers". Lol
. Notice how a bunch of them balk and say they aren't qualified to answer, or that it's a tuff question or that they can't decide. Those are the ones who want to say change the name, but know that they would face a big backlash.
I don't know why but when I saw Ami, I thought of fried chicken... I need to go on lunch break.
i would be interested to know if the 70% 30% statistic is supported with evidence
Those who forget their history are... Bugger. I forgot.
When they talk about philosophy of liberty but their philosophy is massacring indigenous people
Gets rid of kkk statue and compares that to Washington 🤦♀️
The comments on this section are about as bad as comments in the video.
Listen George Washington owned slaves. that was bad. Period. However the subject is gray since he was a product of a time where abolishing slavery wasn’t even a clear option. He did personally tried to do his part to free his slaves.
Now you take someone like Robert E. Lee. You can’t use the same reasoning. There was a paradigm shift in his time where many agreed slavery was bad, and African slaves deserved freedom. REL didn’t agree with that and fought with many other to keep slaves. The country was thrown into civil war because some states wanted to secede from the Union to keep slavery active.
In context, it’s much less ambiguous to discuss renaming a building or toppling statues for people that fought FOR slavery than those that were less disposed to brake the wheel.
Not to mention most confederate monuments were erected way pass the civil war. These types of monuments don’t really celebrate history as much as they want to “honor” people that shouldn’t. To be fair REL didn’t even want a statue himself.
I didn't read your novel comment, but this makes no sense
I just got waitlisted here, maybe it was for the better.
did that dude just say "reupholster the systems that built us" ?????
Woah, that girl at :55 needs a major chapstick application.
This is really really scary
Ok, how about changing the university's name to something like dancing boggy moguls university for the truly upright and transcendently gifted!
Mark Cissell
Yeah, change it to what he said, lol.
So....what are we doing with WASHINGTON DC?
How about they change schools instead of change the institution
"Reupholster the systems upon which we are founded." Uh yeah, that sounds genius.
Also the people who hem and haw and want to "discuss it" really want to change it but they don't want to actually say it.
The enemy within...as evidenced here.
Anyone wanna mention he freed his slaves?
How about Broccoli University? It's not offensive, green, and healthy? Bunny rabbit University? It's soft and cuddly
Was Soviet won the cold war?
let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. history can't change what it did, or didn't do for that matter. it is what it is. it was a different time with different norms and traditions,
you can't judge the past by today's ideology or morals, today's standards are so far from where they were its crazy, but thats progression, with each new generation things change
both in law and in society in general. mostly for the good, developement of people takes generations. if you want to ban everything that doesn't comply to todays moral and social standards,
then you start burning a lot of books destroying a lot of art, re-write and denounce anything pretty much in history. lets rename everything that doesn't hold up to today's standards.
yes he was a slave owner, but back then that was the norm that was the standard, over time we learnt it was morally wrong and those same men and those that followed changed things. s
o you could have the future you have today. at least be grateful for that. put it this way to make it personal to you. in your life you have had many choices many left turns and many right turns, you have done good things you have done bad things, we all have , that's how we learn. all your success and all your failures all the hard knocks have made you the person you are today, without learning from your mistakes you learn nothing,. George Washington was a great man, ain't nobody said he was perfect.
Ami, I am curious what was the opinion based on sex. Were women more open to change than men. I have noticed that women don't seem to want to protect our society as much as men do.
let's just admit it...we're FUCKED with this generation set to take control of things...um...like...yeah
Depressing that only the neckbeard spoke what should be common sense.
I am inclined to believe this is a slantedly edited video.
Where is my AK47
This isn't proof that we are doomed...it's just proof that universities are a joke Now...don't waste your money parents...
every american should watch john adams tv series 2008, probably they wont speak ill of the founding fathers.
Get rid of everybody named George, I’m very offended. Anybody with a last name that is Washington- bye-!!! Thomas-well we all knew what he did so that’s gone too-so much yuk. All this paper money in my pocket- so sick of these old white people. Now when are my reparations coming? Kamala Harris 2020!!! You go girl
answer is no, forget politics...it would be to costly and labor intensive to change everything based on a fad
THESE KIDS DON'T LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD !
It’s not their fault it’s the education systems fault at this matter
They pay good money to get stupid.
Why not change names to natives..
Black n white are all immigrants..
End my suffering
Were you the gym teacher in The Goldbergs?
I want your Johnny Cash shirt.
How many slaves did Muhammad have? And how many wives? 13 wives I think! At the one time...
1:30 brush ur teeth!
Our future 70 % wow so smart. Sorry
This disgusts me
Wooden teeth! :D
This is awful. Just a lie.
Why do you guys glorified a traitor(the confederate)?
Farhan Ihram elaborate.
Ligerpride You guys build a confederate statue (which as far as I know is an enemy of US) in public place, even fighting for it when someone tried to take it down.
Farhan Ihram - I did no such thing, I'm not even American, but taking your point as read I'd say as follows. The Confederacy was something which certain States fought to bring into being, who is to say that they were wrong in wanting to secede from the United States? It was only the weight of numbers which forced them into submission of staying in the Union, why is that the just outcome? They were effectively not granted the freedom to enter the form of governance that they had determined they wanted, hardly something to celebrate.
If certain people fought for the rights of Southerners, or certain states then why is that a bad thing? People can move on from wanting to break free of the Union while still celebrating historical figures who were prepared to fight for the status of those from the same state (and similar states) as them. If you look at the voting patterns in the United States there is still a clear divide between how classic Yankee states vote versus the rest of the country.
Ligerpride
Nicely stated.