From what you said on missy in the doctor falls, and her wierd now I'm good thing, imagine if there was a scene, where shes just in the building, theres a child, and suddenly a cyberman walks in. Then Missy kills the cyberman, not to save the child but to save herself, and the kid takes it that shes just saved her and hugs her. We could then see Missy realise what being a positive force feels like, and we see her emotions begin to turn. If you wanted to take it further you could have Simm come in, see the child and kill it for no reason, beginning Missys hate for him and basically her old self, as she begins a journey to the light. I dunno, I just thought of this and I kinda like the idea
@Flashpointer oh my god I'm sorry, I just expect harsh sarcasm from this fanbase at this point. 😂 really sorry I misunderstood, thanks for the complement I guess 😃😃
I personally love “Death In Heaven” and “The Doctor Falls” but I think we can all agree that “Hell Bent” should have been scrapped and rewritten completely.
I 100% agree with you again. You put into words exactly why these stories made me so frustrated. Moffat needed a writing partner who finished his ideas and curbed his excesses.
Improve Twice Upon a Time by the following: 1. Have The First Doctor only be a cameo 2. Tie it to the Gallifrey saving scene 3. Have the whole episode take place in a purgatory-esque place that Time Lords who don't want to regenerate go to. 4. Have it only just be a 10 minute short
no. How to improve twice upon a time. Cut out the sexist jokes, one or two yes, five or six, no. Leave Clara out, have each of the other doctors make an appearance, maybe see Susan again. Leave out the showing the first doctor what he will become scene. This is the FIRST doctor, he's only a few hundred years old, how would you feel if you were told youre going to live for thousands of years and become a mass murderer? Tie it in to saving Gallifrey is a good idea!
@@julieeverett7442 Well, considering Moffat didn't know how to handle One, that's why I just said that One should only have a minor cameo in this episode
How to improve the series, make Clara less important! Rings of Atiken one of the greatest speeches in who history and Clara fixes with a leaf, a LEAF! Peters entrance, Clara has seen the doctor change before, and shes shocked he's new again. I think 8 was a little long winded his post regeneration dementia lasted a whole season, no usually a show, or two takes a whole season. Cant argue about Hell bent. Stop forcing the Bill is gay thing A long life is an empty battle field" How about "I'm over 2000 years enough is enough, even for me" Then why cant I rest. Stop bringing Clara back My veiws
I hated how rassilon was changed to be just another time lord in hell bent. I didn't mind Bill not seeing herself as a cyberman in the doctor falls as I felt it made it a bit sad with her not realising or able to accept. I do wish we had gotten a more origin story though as it felt at times it was trying to do something similar to spare parts but I suppose the body horror element might have been too hard to do for a young audience. It is a while since I've seen it but I felt the ending was also a bit odd because maybe I'm forgetting things but didn't nardole just get left there. It just felt unfinished
Agree with you 100%! Having hope in the face of death & adversity is part of being human and would be a great lesson for The Doctor to teach his viewers. Also...love the hat
First off an obvious one... I would improve "Dragonfire" by swapping the literal cliffhanger over with Mel screaming at the dragon (as the story was initially intended, cause the final broadcast was a cutting room c***-up according to cast and crew). I would also improve "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords" by rewriting John Simm as a sort of "Demon Headmaster" type character... the Jack Nicholson insanity stuff didn't really look like the Master's style to me... have him young, but not hyperactive like Tennant, I'd have him as a stark contrast... refined, smug, devious... like a cowardly snake. Probably the odd one or two Jim Carrey outburst because the "I Can See You" bit was actually funny and creepy at the same time. I think I would also rewrite Asylum of the Daleks by retconning the separation Amy and Rory were going through having them just finishing off patching things up with their love life... keep all Bronze Daleks relegated to the Asylum, having the new Paradigm (with a grandiose chrome finish) wanting the Doctor to eradicate the Daleks in the Asylum not because they were a threat with their insanity... but because they're impure compared to their own distilled pure DNA, but the Doctor befriends Oswin and he can't bring himself to kill her, despite her being turned into a Dalek... and then must choose between killing or being killed for failure himself. I would probably rewrite the Dalek prime minister as the Emperor instead as well... Have him as this giant Purple Dalek or something... Last one is a doozy... Twice upon a time, get rid of all the sexist jargon of the Hartnell Doctor... I'd rather have the 1st Doctor berate his future self in the story... have him respect Bill more, as he himself trusted Barbera the most after Susan... but I would have him berate her for calling him an "old man" as he's the youngest incarnation in terms of literal age... I would probably rewrite him slagging off the soldier for sexism, comparing such vulgar attitudes to that of Bret Vyon (whose stubbornness and foolishness was mostly responsible for Katarina's death). To put it in short... I would fix the First Doctor of something worthy of Mr. Hartnell... I would also write the regeneration into Jodie as a "mutated regeneration" after an unstable backlog of regeneration energy... adding some narrative logic to a rather obvious equity hire... making Jodie's occurrence less offending to vocal members of the fandom.
Actually, Moffat wrote less scripts with Clara compared to Amy and Rory, especially in the 2nd half of Series 7. I get the impression that the writing fell off around 7 (subsequent series suffered as well); OTOH, every 'reboot' series has at least one lousy episode: Series One episodes with the Slitheen, Love and Monsters (one of the worst), Fear Her, Daleks In Manhattan, Evolution of the Daleks, 42, The Unicorn and the Wasp (arguably), The Hungry Earth - Cold Blood, Night Terrors, The God Complex (arguably), Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, A Town Called Mercy, The Power of Three (terrible ending), The Rings of Akhaten (one of the worst IMO), The Crimson Horror (also one of the worst), In The Forest of the Night, Sleep No More (flat out rubbish). Basically anything written by Chibnall, most of Helen Raynor & half of Mark Gatiss. I'd rate Series 4 and Series 6 the highest in overall quality; then again, some of the worst series have some of the best individual episodes (e.g. Blink in Series 3). It's challenging to maintain the writing and production quality for such a demanding show, especially with its long history and established world building precedents and expectations. But how Chibnall became showrunner is beyond me; he is making RTD & Moffat look great by comparison.
1. For the episode Knock Knock- Have everyone come back alive at the end( and I mean all the previous groups of boarders) or everyone stays dead. 2. For the episode Sleep No More, maybe add another villain above Rasmussen. Please have a different explanation for the Sandmen. 3. Caves of Androzani- a) Real Uniforms for the Army so they don't look like construction or road workers. b) Have one of the Mercs with a weapon that can shoot long range or adapted to shoot long range. c) Buy 1960s Star Trek effects for the 1984 Execution Scene. Thanks for another great video!
Good video. Yeah, when they keep bringing back characters that we're lead to believe either died or moved on... is annoying... it cheapens their departure. Moffat can't make up his mind. The Doctor Falls was set up perfectly to be a big Cyberman battle finale, but just got muddled down. Moffat really needed a closer to write the endings to his multi-part stories.
Take Missy out of season 10, have the Master be a prisoner in World Enough and Time rather than the reason it happened. The Doctor finds him, Bill still gets converted The Doctor Falls is just following these three (Doctor, Master and Nardole) trying to escape the hospital and get back to the TARDIS Also keep the old Tenth Planet Cybermen, don't upgrade them or show the Cybus or current Cybermen
Not sure if you have been asked this question before but would like to know who your favourite Dr Who composer is? Mines is the great Dudley Simpson. He created a style of incidental music that was instantly recognisable as being Dr Who.
One of my main issue with the 13th Doctor in series 11 was that she never felt like she had lived for thousands (or more!) of years and lived through all the things that the Doctor has. If, as you say, in Hell Bent the Doctor had gotten rid of his demons by overthrowing rassillon and saving Gallifrey and then regenerating at the end, 13s character would sit much better with me
I should also add I was never sold on the whole "Gallery was destroyed and I did it and I am so terribly damaged and alone" crap. Then they made it worse by adding moral relativism into the mix. When Davros accuses the Doctor of turning ordinary people into warriors and killers, the original series Doctors would have thrown that back at him saying something along the lines that because of evil creatures like Davros, ordinary people, mothers, fathers, children, artists, scientists need to become warriors. Instead, the 10th Doctor hangs his head in shame. What a crock of horse manure.
You completely convinced me why Death in Heaven was so disappointing, very well done but you'll never sway my mind on The Doctor Falls though that was a great finale
Another thing I hate about Hell Bent is that the next time the Doctor returns to Gallifrey, everything he did throughout that story will need to be addressed. If they were to give us a story where the Doctor goes back to Gallifrey again, that can't really be ignored
Damn. I knew I was in for Hell Bent but all 3? I honestly think all of Capaldi's finales are amazing. But I know what I'm in for with your videos. I like how you have different views but are respectful
I love the Doctor Falls as it is. It is a clear shift from World Enough and Times they don't feel necessarily like two parts of a single story. The Doctor Falls doesn't have the same tone, but it doesn't have a bad tone. It goes from creepy to tragic. Saying it's more than sitting on a farm for an hour, is like saying all Parting of the Ways was the Doctor fiddling with building a Doomsday device for an hour that he doesn't actually use. It's not meant to be a Cybermen focused story that was World Enough and Time. It's 12, Bill and Missy's story. Missy's redemption does not come out of nowhere. It was built up over her run, and especially the later of Series 10 (it should have been present earlier not had the Vault). The Master is there for Missy's arc. Underused, yes but used very well for that purpose. Capaldi had a blow out of a finale where he acts his heart out and be the most selfless the Doctor has ever been. Bill's slowly falling to the conversion and coming to terms with what had happened is phenomenonal and much more interesting than her just being gone after the conversion. Her actual resurrection is the only thing that bogs it down. I also love the themes of preservation Vs evolution that the Master, the Doctor, Bill all contend with, it's quite meta as well cause that's an issue the show itself deals with all the time especially now we have a female Doctor. This all opinion btw, you're still getting a like.
I personally love capaldis finales, more than RTDs if I'm honest, hell bent is absolutely awful imo but the other finales I do enjoy or maybe the story isn't as good as it could be but it's full of brilliant moments! Heaven sent is my all time favourite story and to have hel bent he week after was just a let down, but I can't hate that finale simply because heaven sent exists haha. Also the series 10 finale is my favourite finale in all new who, excellent two parter imo and a perfect send off to my favourite doctor
I’m probably gonna have different opinions than you so let’s see... Well imo Series 10 in-law was perfect. The Doctor Falls was incredible. Hell Bent was great, the Hybrid arc coud l have been resolved better. The Series 8 in-law wasn’t perfect but I wouldn’t change it.
Your idea of world enough and time / the doctor falls was perfect. It would’ve just been so much of a better episode if during the episode the people on that floor began considering the benefits to becoming a cyberman during the seige and them slowly going to the cybermen and volunteering for conversion. SHOW why people did actually become cybermen in the first place, and you have a TV story on par with spare parts
@@matthewduncan8523 Both episodes show you perfectly the decaying conditions of the Mondasian Space Colony and that the Cyber-conversion is not voluntary. Show, don't tell. Something Chibnall doesn't understand. Is not my problem if you are a idiot.
Missy was a mis-step and should clearly of been The Rani. Given the Rani's treatment of people in both "Mark of" and "Time of" the Rani - this seems to be another of her crazy schemes, and would have blended classic and New Who wonderfully - clearly we should have enjoyed a double bluff here with the Rani pretending to be the Master, before the Rani reveal.
I find Hell Bent pretty enjoyable, but your suggestions would've made it soooo much better. I absolutely love the idea of a Gallifreyan western finale.
My same exact problem with the series 3 finale. Utopia is absolutely brilliant in every sense of the word and probably one of my personal favorite New who episodes, it sets the story and build up to the Master reveal so perfectly! than Sound of Drums and Last of the Timelords, besides having the fantastic performance from John Simm as The Master, really do nothing spectacular at all and pretty much just fall flat completely
In a parallel universe where Doctor Who was revived across the pond what American actors do you feel would be the most ..... interesting as The Doctor? Personally I can't help but feel that Peter Dinklage would make a great Doctor. Also would you want Sean Pertwee to join Doctor Who or play a Doctor? Or would it be too gimmicky?
Father's Day: the episode that put me off watching new Who. They went back in time 20 years and Rose saved her father from being run over. This broke the rules however so a bunch of ghostly gargoyles started pulling down the buildings *Jesus fucking Christ*. I would have had the Doctor rugby tackle Rose to stop her from attempting to save her father. Then I would have had the Doctor tell her, that had she tried to save her father she would probably have caused his death.
Another great video. However, as you video says there are problems in series 8, series 9, series 10, and series 11. These problems shouldn't exist. Its poor writing, and poor planning. The problem is the whole of each series, not just individual episodes. Gone are the days when Classic Who problems were the episodes being 6 episodes, when 4 would have worked better.
I completely agree with everything you said, its like no one can stay dead with Moffat and consequences don't matter. Also I know you've said that you're done with new Doctor Who, but I was wondering if you'd seen the trailers for series 12 and had any thoughts about them?
@@rowanc88 I don't blame him tbh, I'm not interested in New Who at all anymore, been rewatching Tom Baker serials I've never seen before, they seem so much more imaginative and fun compared to series 11. 🙈
@Wingy Media I have to be honest - I disagree with Mofatt... But then again, I grew up with Classic Who... And my case to the point of "Hopeful" not always being teh best way to go - That there are times where you need to subvert expectations and go for tragedy instead - I think it was Timecrash... I know it was a Peter Davidson (5th Doctor) Story... Long and the short - And whoa boy, Its the Cybermen again... Yeah, Cybermen have overtaken a ship... They will get to earth and Assimilate it... Towards teh end there is only one chance left, The ship MUST BE DESTROYED, So the Doctor and Companions set about starting a Self Destruct, but it gets damaged and there is no time to fix it as the Cybermen will break through... (Something like that... There is a convoluted set of events to make someone have to stay behind!) Adric, One of the Doctors most annoying companions to most fans... Opts to remain - The Doctor desperately wants to try and go back for him - After all, He has a Tie Machine, He can get there with seconds to spare surly? The Cybermen break through - Adric grabs his gold Badge and desperately takes down a Cyber Commander as the crew watch from the TARDIS as the ship EXPLODES! Silence... The episode finished on Adric's broken Badge and NO IDENTICAL MUSIC in the credits! Doctor Who does NOT always need to be hopeful.. In fact that sense of Tragedy makes a point - Sometimes we will lose, sometimes life isn't easy and sometimes, even with a Time Machine - You cannot win! Hope comes from finding strength to carry on in the face of adversity! NOT BY REWRITING HISTORY!
The biggest problems with Doctor Who are the distractions. It should be about good verses evil, especially when stories are 50 minutes long. Deal with the threat, not with the companions love life, or family life.
It wasn't just the finales in the Capaldi era that started of well and the second have deteriorated, it was nearly every episode. Apart from season 9 which was just awful all the way through.
Okay, first things first: I actually do like The Doctor Falls as it felt very oppressive, emotional and I liked the idea of the Doctor defending a group of doomed strangers simply because it's the right thing to do. But here's my change: He fails. Here's what would happen: Bill stays a Cyberman, fully-conditioned and all and she evolves with the rest of them. Yes, I am implying that all of the Cybermen will turn into the 2013 variation (no Cybus though) and Bill, being the first fully converted Cyberman, becomes their controller. And yes they will turn on the Master because, as a Time Lord, they cannot convert him so they'll try to kill him instead. As before, The Doctor, Nardole and the Masters escape to the solar farm and meet with the farmers. The Doctor informs them of what's going on and that because of the time dilation, the Cybermen will evolve fast and be ready to attack the ship. Once they become the 2013 kind, Operation Exodus begins. The Master wants to leave in the Doctor's TARDIS but the Doctor reveals that they can't leave without condemning the farmers. Missy is conflicted: she too wants to leave but she feels guilty about doing so, Like before, the Doctor gives them the speech and they both leave. They get up to the main flight deck where they find the TARDIS. Like before, they kill each other because Missy changes her mind but this time, she manages to cling onto life long enough to leave in the TARDIS. Meanwhile, things are bad in floor 507. Nardole tries getting the farmers out but they are all taken by the Cybermen and Nardole dies defending them. Meanwhile, the Doctor is mortally wounded when facing Cyber-Bill and prepares to die. Missy gets him out using the TARDIS and dies soon after. The Doctor buries her on Earth or somewhere and refuses to regenerate, having lost so much that he has nothing left to live for. The TARDIS soon lands in Ypres, 1914 and a WWI captain bursts into the TARDIS, saying that he needs help, ending the episode on a cliffhanger. Onto Twice Upon a Time (yes I'm changing that too because that was pants) which shall be retitled 'Twelfth Night' because the First Doctor won't be in it. He doesn't need to be. I get what Moffat was going for, showing how far the Doctor has come, but for this story, he isn't needed (and we can be saved from those awful sexism jokes). In this story, the Captain is about to die on Christmas Day, 1914 but time stops and a Glass Woman tries grabbing him. He found the TARDIS and the Doctor agrees to help, determined to save one person before he goes. He tries taking him elsewhere but they are captured by the Testimony. As before, they are revealed to be harmless and their function is to store copies of the dead so they can live an afterlife. However, the Doctor refuses to let him return to his death and the captain is unsure as well. They go to the Eye of Orion and the Captain slowly accepts his death. The Doctor realises that if the Captain doesn't return to his time, more people will die and decides to let the Captain go. The Testimony returns him and as before, the Christmas Truce saves him and the Doctor's hope for the universe is restored. The Testimony offers to download him into their systems but the Doctor declines. Realising that there is still good in the world and that saving people is possible, The Doctor regenerates into Jodie Whitaker and she falls out of the TARDIS due to the damage caused by said regeneration.
Joel Mole I mean Nardole and crew basically do fail, they’ll be caught by Cybermen eventually with nowhere to go. I think they just couldn’t a group of children and Nardole getting massacred.
Joel Mole I not know If this is an unpopular opinion but I think The Doctor Falls was perfect and so was Twice Upon A Time apart from making the first Doctor sexist.
nice idea but you still need for the doctor to know who he is,the fact he's the brigs grand father is essential, the brigadeir was one of the doctors greatest human friends if Moffat didnt have a stiffy for Clara he would know the brig was one of the most important humans in the doctors life. This is the man who has met EVERY one of the classic doctors, worked with 2 3 and 4, gave 3 a home when he was exiled on Earth as UNIT's scientific advisor.
Or maybe why don't give to Michelle Gomez portraying The Rani instead of Missy and someone else interpreting The Master? And also, I have the same vision on Hell Bent just like you instead the absolute shite that Moffat gave us.
From what you said on missy in the doctor falls, and her wierd now I'm good thing, imagine if there was a scene, where shes just in the building, theres a child, and suddenly a cyberman walks in. Then Missy kills the cyberman, not to save the child but to save herself, and the kid takes it that shes just saved her and hugs her. We could then see Missy realise what being a positive force feels like, and we see her emotions begin to turn.
If you wanted to take it further you could have Simm come in, see the child and kill it for no reason, beginning Missys hate for him and basically her old self, as she begins a journey to the light. I dunno, I just thought of this and I kinda like the idea
@Flashpointer just an idea mate, calm yourself
@Flashpointer oh my god I'm sorry, I just expect harsh sarcasm from this fanbase at this point. 😂 really sorry I misunderstood, thanks for the complement I guess 😃😃
The Lynx Africa comparison was comedy gold 🤣😂
I personally love “Death In Heaven” and “The Doctor Falls” but I think we can all agree that “Hell Bent” should have been scrapped and rewritten completely.
When a new sonic is the best part of an episode...it’s probably not a good episode
I 100% agree with you again. You put into words exactly why these stories made me so frustrated. Moffat needed a writing partner who finished his ideas and curbed his excesses.
Improve Twice Upon a Time by the following:
1. Have The First Doctor only be a cameo
2. Tie it to the Gallifrey saving scene
3. Have the whole episode take place in a purgatory-esque place that Time Lords who don't want to regenerate go to.
4. Have it only just be a 10 minute short
no.
How to improve twice upon a time. Cut out the sexist jokes, one or two yes, five or six, no.
Leave Clara out, have each of the other doctors make an appearance, maybe see Susan again.
Leave out the showing the first doctor what he will become scene. This is the FIRST doctor, he's only a few hundred years old, how would you feel if you were told youre going to live for thousands of years and become a mass murderer?
Tie it in to saving Gallifrey is a good idea!
@@julieeverett7442 Well, considering Moffat didn't know how to handle One, that's why I just said that One should only have a minor cameo in this episode
responding to your response, ok, youre right he doesnt!
Omg imagine it being a short I would have been so pissed if my favorite modern Doctor only got a short to regenerate
Get Susan a cameo, I stopped watching when I felt all the characters were introduced.
I feel like Journey's End deserves a video too. Just got done watching it, and it's such a let-down how everything pans out.
Another smashing video. Merry Christmas and thanks for all the interesting content, sir.
How to improve the series, make Clara less important!
Rings of Atiken one of the greatest speeches in who history and Clara fixes with a leaf, a LEAF!
Peters entrance, Clara has seen the doctor change before, and shes shocked he's new again.
I think 8 was a little long winded his post regeneration dementia lasted a whole season, no usually a show, or two takes a whole season.
Cant argue about Hell bent.
Stop forcing the Bill is gay thing
A long life is an empty battle field" How about "I'm over 2000 years enough is enough, even for me" Then why cant I rest.
Stop bringing Clara back
My veiws
I hated how rassilon was changed to be just another time lord in hell bent.
I didn't mind Bill not seeing herself as a cyberman in the doctor falls as I felt it made it a bit sad with her not realising or able to accept. I do wish we had gotten a more origin story though as it felt at times it was trying to do something similar to spare parts but I suppose the body horror element might have been too hard to do for a young audience.
It is a while since I've seen it but I felt the ending was also a bit odd because maybe I'm forgetting things but didn't nardole just get left there. It just felt unfinished
Agree with you 100%! Having hope in the face of death & adversity is part of being human and would be a great lesson for The Doctor to teach his viewers.
Also...love the hat
First off an obvious one... I would improve "Dragonfire" by swapping the literal cliffhanger over with Mel screaming at the dragon (as the story was initially intended, cause the final broadcast was a cutting room c***-up according to cast and crew).
I would also improve "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords" by rewriting John Simm as a sort of "Demon Headmaster" type character... the Jack Nicholson insanity stuff didn't really look like the Master's style to me... have him young, but not hyperactive like Tennant, I'd have him as a stark contrast... refined, smug, devious... like a cowardly snake. Probably the odd one or two Jim Carrey outburst because the "I Can See You" bit was actually funny and creepy at the same time.
I think I would also rewrite Asylum of the Daleks by retconning the separation Amy and Rory were going through having them just finishing off patching things up with their love life... keep all Bronze Daleks relegated to the Asylum, having the new Paradigm (with a grandiose chrome finish) wanting the Doctor to eradicate the Daleks in the Asylum not because they were a threat with their insanity... but because they're impure compared to their own distilled pure DNA, but the Doctor befriends Oswin and he can't bring himself to kill her, despite her being turned into a Dalek... and then must choose between killing or being killed for failure himself. I would probably rewrite the Dalek prime minister as the Emperor instead as well... Have him as this giant Purple Dalek or something...
Last one is a doozy... Twice upon a time, get rid of all the sexist jargon of the Hartnell Doctor... I'd rather have the 1st Doctor berate his future self in the story... have him respect Bill more, as he himself trusted Barbera the most after Susan... but I would have him berate her for calling him an "old man" as he's the youngest incarnation in terms of literal age... I would probably rewrite him slagging off the soldier for sexism, comparing such vulgar attitudes to that of Bret Vyon (whose stubbornness and foolishness was mostly responsible for Katarina's death). To put it in short... I would fix the First Doctor of something worthy of Mr. Hartnell... I would also write the regeneration into Jodie as a "mutated regeneration" after an unstable backlog of regeneration energy... adding some narrative logic to a rather obvious equity hire... making Jodie's occurrence less offending to vocal members of the fandom.
That had to be one of the greatest comments I've ever read. It this was Reddit that would've been gold-worthy
Great insight. I think Moffat just got smitten with writing Clara.
Actually, Moffat wrote less scripts with Clara compared to Amy and Rory, especially in the 2nd half of Series 7. I get the impression that the writing fell off around 7 (subsequent series suffered as well); OTOH, every 'reboot' series has at least one lousy episode: Series One episodes with the Slitheen, Love and Monsters (one of the worst), Fear Her, Daleks In Manhattan, Evolution of the Daleks, 42, The Unicorn and the Wasp (arguably), The Hungry Earth - Cold Blood, Night Terrors, The God Complex (arguably), Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, A Town Called Mercy, The Power of Three (terrible ending), The Rings of Akhaten (one of the worst IMO), The Crimson Horror (also one of the worst), In The Forest of the Night, Sleep No More (flat out rubbish). Basically anything written by Chibnall, most of Helen Raynor & half of Mark Gatiss.
I'd rate Series 4 and Series 6 the highest in overall quality; then again, some of the worst series have some of the best individual episodes (e.g. Blink in Series 3).
It's challenging to maintain the writing and production quality for such a demanding show, especially with its long history and established world building precedents and expectations. But how Chibnall became showrunner is beyond me; he is making RTD & Moffat look great by comparison.
The Master wanting to restart the Time War is an idea I've always thought would be good
1. For the episode Knock Knock- Have everyone come back alive at the end( and I mean all the previous groups of boarders) or everyone stays dead. 2. For the episode Sleep No More, maybe add another villain above Rasmussen. Please have a different explanation for the Sandmen. 3. Caves of Androzani- a) Real Uniforms for the Army so they don't look like construction or road workers. b) Have one of the Mercs with a weapon that can shoot long range or adapted to shoot long range. c) Buy 1960s Star Trek effects for the 1984 Execution Scene. Thanks for another great video!
Good video. Yeah, when they keep bringing back characters that we're lead to believe either died or moved on... is annoying... it cheapens their departure. Moffat can't make up his mind. The Doctor Falls was set up perfectly to be a big Cyberman battle finale, but just got muddled down. Moffat really needed a closer to write the endings to his multi-part stories.
I just stick to the classic series mainly now
Take Missy out of season 10, have the Master be a prisoner in World Enough and Time rather than the reason it happened.
The Doctor finds him, Bill still gets converted
The Doctor Falls is just following these three (Doctor, Master and Nardole) trying to escape the hospital and get back to the TARDIS
Also keep the old Tenth Planet Cybermen, don't upgrade them or show the Cybus or current Cybermen
I'd prefer to keep Missy in. I'd hate to lose the chemistry between Michelle Gomez and Peter Capaldi.
Wish your videos were longer! I’d have happily watched 30 minutes or more on this.
Not sure if you have been asked this question before but would like to know who your favourite Dr Who composer is? Mines is the great Dudley Simpson. He created a style of incidental music that was instantly recognisable as being Dr Who.
I whole heartedly agree. And he did it all with about a twenty guineas for a budget.
One of my main issue with the 13th Doctor in series 11 was that she never felt like she had lived for thousands (or more!) of years and lived through all the things that the Doctor has. If, as you say, in Hell Bent the Doctor had gotten rid of his demons by overthrowing rassillon and saving Gallifrey and then regenerating at the end, 13s character would sit much better with me
Hey this was my suggestion. Thanks for doing my suggestion wingy! 👍
I should also add I was never sold on the whole "Gallery was destroyed and I did it and I am so terribly damaged and alone" crap.
Then they made it worse by adding moral relativism into the mix. When Davros accuses the Doctor of turning ordinary people into warriors and killers, the original series Doctors would have thrown that back at him saying something along the lines that because of evil creatures like Davros, ordinary people, mothers, fathers, children, artists, scientists need to become warriors. Instead, the 10th Doctor hangs his head in shame. What a crock of horse manure.
You completely convinced me why Death in Heaven was so disappointing, very well done but you'll never sway my mind on The Doctor Falls though that was a great finale
Another thing I hate about Hell Bent is that the next time the Doctor returns to Gallifrey, everything he did throughout that story will need to be addressed. If they were to give us a story where the Doctor goes back to Gallifrey again, that can't really be ignored
Damn. I knew I was in for Hell Bent but all 3? I honestly think all of Capaldi's finales are amazing. But I know what I'm in for with your videos. I like how you have different views but are respectful
I love the Doctor Falls as it is. It is a clear shift from World Enough and Times they don't feel necessarily like two parts of a single story. The Doctor Falls doesn't have the same tone, but it doesn't have a bad tone. It goes from creepy to tragic. Saying it's more than sitting on a farm for an hour, is like saying all Parting of the Ways was the Doctor fiddling with building a Doomsday device for an hour that he doesn't actually use. It's not meant to be a Cybermen focused story that was World Enough and Time. It's 12, Bill and Missy's story. Missy's redemption does not come out of nowhere. It was built up over her run, and especially the later of Series 10 (it should have been present earlier not had the Vault). The Master is there for Missy's arc. Underused, yes but used very well for that purpose. Capaldi had a blow out of a finale where he acts his heart out and be the most selfless the Doctor has ever been. Bill's slowly falling to the conversion and coming to terms with what had happened is phenomenonal and much more interesting than her just being gone after the conversion. Her actual resurrection is the only thing that bogs it down. I also love the themes of preservation Vs evolution that the Master, the Doctor, Bill all contend with, it's quite meta as well cause that's an issue the show itself deals with all the time especially now we have a female Doctor.
This all opinion btw, you're still getting a like.
Could you make a sequel to this video? Maybe you could do one for each Doctor.
the whole I am Doctor Who thing from Missy is so cringey is like Moffat is trying to be witty.
You nailed it.
Moffat is trying to be witty 100% of the time
Jodie Whittaker: I am a joke to you?
@@mayotango1317 actually, yes you are
I personally love capaldis finales, more than RTDs if I'm honest, hell bent is absolutely awful imo but the other finales I do enjoy or maybe the story isn't as good as it could be but it's full of brilliant moments! Heaven sent is my all time favourite story and to have hel bent he week after was just a let down, but I can't hate that finale simply because heaven sent exists haha. Also the series 10 finale is my favourite finale in all new who, excellent two parter imo and a perfect send off to my favourite doctor
What do you think of Last of the summer wine? ?
Nice video! You should really look up series 12. Great improvement...
I’m probably gonna have different opinions than you so let’s see...
Well imo Series 10 in-law was perfect. The Doctor Falls was incredible.
Hell Bent was great, the Hybrid arc coud l have been resolved better.
The Series 8 in-law wasn’t perfect but I wouldn’t change it.
You need to be a writer for doctor who as what you just said is perfect and just fantastic mate !!
Your idea of world enough and time / the doctor falls was perfect. It would’ve just been so much of a better episode if during the episode the people on that floor began considering the benefits to becoming a cyberman during the seige and them slowly going to the cybermen and volunteering for conversion. SHOW why people did actually become cybermen in the first place, and you have a TV story on par with spare parts
You really watch that episode?
Mayo Tango131 ?
@@matthewduncan8523 Ah, you are the Chibnall audience. Everything has to be explained to you.
Mayo Tango131 it would be a lot easier if you spoke proper English. Do you mean did I really watch world enough and time / Doctor falls? Yes.
@@matthewduncan8523 Both episodes show you perfectly the decaying conditions of the Mondasian Space Colony and that the Cyber-conversion is not voluntary. Show, don't tell. Something Chibnall doesn't understand.
Is not my problem if you are a idiot.
Missy was a mis-step and should clearly of been The Rani.
Given the Rani's treatment of people in both "Mark of" and "Time of" the Rani - this seems to be another of her crazy schemes, and would have blended classic and New Who wonderfully - clearly we should have enjoyed a double bluff here with the Rani pretending to be the Master, before the Rani reveal.
I find Hell Bent pretty enjoyable, but your suggestions would've made it soooo much better. I absolutely love the idea of a Gallifreyan western finale.
My same exact problem with the series 3 finale. Utopia is absolutely brilliant in every sense of the word and probably one of my personal favorite New who episodes, it sets the story and build up to the Master reveal so perfectly! than Sound of Drums and Last of the Timelords, besides having the fantastic performance from John Simm as The Master, really do nothing spectacular at all and pretty much just fall flat completely
The problem is that all of Moffat's finalaes the first part is always better than the second part
Cof The Timeless Children cof
Every episode of season 11.
I like your hell bent improvements but I think the missy character arc was almost perfect in the show
In a parallel universe where Doctor Who was revived across the pond what American actors do you feel would be the most ..... interesting as The Doctor?
Personally I can't help but feel that Peter Dinklage would make a great Doctor. Also would you want Sean Pertwee to join Doctor Who or play a Doctor? Or would it be too gimmicky?
Father's Day: the episode that put me off watching new Who. They went back in time 20 years and Rose saved her father from being run over. This broke the rules however so a bunch of ghostly gargoyles started pulling down the buildings *Jesus fucking Christ*. I would have had the Doctor rugby tackle Rose to stop her from attempting to save her father. Then I would have had the Doctor tell her, that had she tried to save her father she would probably have caused his death.
Another great video.
However, as you video says there are problems in series 8, series 9, series 10, and series 11. These problems shouldn't exist. Its poor writing, and poor planning. The problem is the whole of each series, not just individual episodes.
Gone are the days when Classic Who problems were the episodes being 6 episodes, when 4 would have worked better.
How about completely different sensibilities and mindset, different writers, actors and directors?
I completely agree with everything you said, its like no one can stay dead with Moffat and consequences don't matter.
Also I know you've said that you're done with new Doctor Who, but I was wondering if you'd seen the trailers for series 12 and had any thoughts about them?
Is there really enough information in the series 12 trailer?
@@rowanc88 I don't blame him tbh, I'm not interested in New Who at all anymore, been rewatching Tom Baker serials I've never seen before, they seem so much more imaginative and fun compared to series 11. 🙈
These ideas are fantastic chibnall should hire you as script editor
Moffat always did good episodes leading up to the finale and then the finale is awful.
The thumbnail image should have been Jodie Whittaker. The vast majority of Capaldi's episodes were far better than anything from series 11.
@Wingy Media I have to be honest - I disagree with Mofatt... But then again, I grew up with Classic Who... And my case to the point of "Hopeful" not always being teh best way to go - That there are times where you need to subvert expectations and go for tragedy instead - I think it was Timecrash... I know it was a Peter Davidson (5th Doctor) Story...
Long and the short - And whoa boy, Its the Cybermen again... Yeah, Cybermen have overtaken a ship... They will get to earth and Assimilate it... Towards teh end there is only one chance left, The ship MUST BE DESTROYED, So the Doctor and Companions set about starting a Self Destruct, but it gets damaged and there is no time to fix it as the Cybermen will break through... (Something like that... There is a convoluted set of events to make someone have to stay behind!)
Adric, One of the Doctors most annoying companions to most fans... Opts to remain - The Doctor desperately wants to try and go back for him - After all, He has a Tie Machine, He can get there with seconds to spare surly?
The Cybermen break through - Adric grabs his gold Badge and desperately takes down a Cyber Commander as the crew watch from the TARDIS as the ship EXPLODES! Silence...
The episode finished on Adric's broken Badge and NO IDENTICAL MUSIC in the credits!
Doctor Who does NOT always need to be hopeful.. In fact that sense of Tragedy makes a point - Sometimes we will lose, sometimes life isn't easy and sometimes, even with a Time Machine - You cannot win! Hope comes from finding strength to carry on in the face of adversity! NOT BY REWRITING HISTORY!
Great video and yay I'm sort of early
Improve Love and Monsters by burning every copy and never mentioning it again
The biggest problems with Doctor Who are the distractions. It should be about good verses evil, especially when stories are 50 minutes long. Deal with the threat, not with the companions love life, or family life.
Thats where the classics were better, the companions stayed with the doctor until they left, no hopping back home to check on the fam
It wasn't just the finales in the Capaldi era that started of well and the second have deteriorated, it was nearly every episode. Apart from season 9 which was just awful all the way through.
Hell Bent is the single worst episode of Doctor Who both classic and new.
The Timeless Children: Hold my beer.
I cared - I liked Osgood!
Okay, first things first: I actually do like The Doctor Falls as it felt very oppressive, emotional and I liked the idea of the Doctor defending a group of doomed strangers simply because it's the right thing to do. But here's my change: He fails.
Here's what would happen: Bill stays a Cyberman, fully-conditioned and all and she evolves with the rest of them. Yes, I am implying that all of the Cybermen will turn into the 2013 variation (no Cybus though) and Bill, being the first fully converted Cyberman, becomes their controller. And yes they will turn on the Master because, as a Time Lord, they cannot convert him so they'll try to kill him instead.
As before, The Doctor, Nardole and the Masters escape to the solar farm and meet with the farmers. The Doctor informs them of what's going on and that because of the time dilation, the Cybermen will evolve fast and be ready to attack the ship. Once they become the 2013 kind, Operation Exodus begins. The Master wants to leave in the Doctor's TARDIS but the Doctor reveals that they can't leave without condemning the farmers. Missy is conflicted: she too wants to leave but she feels guilty about doing so, Like before, the Doctor gives them the speech and they both leave. They get up to the main flight deck where they find the TARDIS. Like before, they kill each other because Missy changes her mind but this time, she manages to cling onto life long enough to leave in the TARDIS.
Meanwhile, things are bad in floor 507. Nardole tries getting the farmers out but they are all taken by the Cybermen and Nardole dies defending them. Meanwhile, the Doctor is mortally wounded when facing Cyber-Bill and prepares to die. Missy gets him out using the TARDIS and dies soon after. The Doctor buries her on Earth or somewhere and refuses to regenerate, having lost so much that he has nothing left to live for. The TARDIS soon lands in Ypres, 1914 and a WWI captain bursts into the TARDIS, saying that he needs help, ending the episode on a cliffhanger.
Onto Twice Upon a Time (yes I'm changing that too because that was pants) which shall be retitled 'Twelfth Night' because the First Doctor won't be in it. He doesn't need to be. I get what Moffat was going for, showing how far the Doctor has come, but for this story, he isn't needed (and we can be saved from those awful sexism jokes).
In this story, the Captain is about to die on Christmas Day, 1914 but time stops and a Glass Woman tries grabbing him. He found the TARDIS and the Doctor agrees to help, determined to save one person before he goes. He tries taking him elsewhere but they are captured by the Testimony. As before, they are revealed to be harmless and their function is to store copies of the dead so they can live an afterlife. However, the Doctor refuses to let him return to his death and the captain is unsure as well. They go to the Eye of Orion and the Captain slowly accepts his death. The Doctor realises that if the Captain doesn't return to his time, more people will die and decides to let the Captain go. The Testimony returns him and as before, the Christmas Truce saves him and the Doctor's hope for the universe is restored. The Testimony offers to download him into their systems but the Doctor declines. Realising that there is still good in the world and that saving people is possible, The Doctor regenerates into Jodie Whitaker and she falls out of the TARDIS due to the damage caused by said regeneration.
Joel Mole I mean Nardole and crew basically do fail, they’ll be caught by Cybermen eventually with nowhere to go. I think they just couldn’t a group of children and Nardole getting massacred.
Joel Mole I not know If this is an unpopular opinion but I think The Doctor Falls was perfect and so was Twice Upon A Time apart from making the first Doctor sexist.
nice idea but you still need for the doctor to know who he is,the fact he's the brigs grand father is essential, the brigadeir was one of the doctors greatest human friends if Moffat didnt have a stiffy for Clara he would know the brig was one of the most important humans in the doctors life. This is the man who has met EVERY one of the classic doctors, worked with 2 3 and 4, gave 3 a home when he was exiled on Earth as UNIT's scientific advisor.
Have you not learned from George Lucas’s attempts at improving his movies, it is a slippery slope.
Now fix Series 11 and Series 12.
Improve the movie, It has a lot of good in it but stuff like the master just bring it down so much
Or maybe why don't give to Michelle Gomez portraying The Rani instead of Missy and someone else interpreting The Master?
And also, I have the same vision on Hell Bent just like you instead the absolute shite that Moffat gave us.
What about Chibnall's Máster?
@@mayotango1317 I stopped watching the series after Capaldi left the show, so I can't express myself on that one, sorry.
@@giuseppesisto681 Yeah, you need watch it and later apology to Moffat.
@@mayotango1317 like I said, I'm not interested anymore on the series.
@@giuseppesisto681 Oh poor boy, is so hard to watch TV.
Your doctor falls sounds so good compared to the pipe of crap that was the original
Missy is a Sherlock character.
Well, obviously. The Doctor is based on Sherlock Holmes, the Master was based on Moriarty.
@@Rocket1377 No. I mean that Missy could have stepped of the set of Sherlock straight onto DW. Poorly written.