Great review. I got one for Xmas and didn't know til you showed me that it had a freaking tuning slide. I was using the mouthpiece pipe pulling it out to tune and some notes were awful bc they were so out of tune (A natural above staff for example)
I get the Tromba Flugelhorn about four weeks ago. I already had a Tromba trumpet and Yamaha Trumpet. I did have to work on the valves to loosen them up. I may have to do a little more shaving with an Exacto knife on one of the valve guides, but they are working much better now, although not as buttery smooth as both of the trumpets. I was beginning to think I was mistaken that the first and second tuning slides were supposed to work, but I did finally get them out. Both are still difficult to move, but that really isn't a problem a I can set both where they need to be and they stay put. I still have work to do on the third tuning slide. I know I will get that working smoothly but I may not really need to. I have found that with the mouthpiece pipe pulled out the length of my index finger tip to second knuckle, all the notes are either in tune or easily lipped into tune. I love playing this horn. Until I get above the staff, I find it easier to play than both trumpets, and the sound is wonderful. Mine is black but the tuning slides, valve caps shafts, and buttons are a very light gold. It looks great.
Thanks for the video. I just got mine about a month ago....having the same trouble with the valve guides. I filed mine down and went back with 4000 grit sand paper and made sure all the edges were smooth. I put some tuning slide grease on them as well. It worked for me. Pretty cool Flugelhorn!
Glad to hear. I'm about to file mine down in a few minutes. I'm gonna try to look for some metal lead pipes at my local music store this coming Monday.
Not bad, it doesn't have a ugly plastic sound at all. It would not perform as "rich" as a brass one on all occasions, I think, though but that would have to be tested.
Thank you for this review.I'm thinking to buy one (I own also a Tromba Trumpet and a Cornet).Can I ask you what tuning app you use on your smartphone?I have one that is not so accurate on chromatic tuning.Thanks again!
Good review. FWIW, I've adjusted plastic valve guides on a cheap brass flugel by scraping them with a sharp knife, rather than filing or sanding - it's easier to get a smooth surface. If you file or sand, you tend to get a slightly rough surface, and ragged edges. I just used a cheap craft knife, with a wide blade (the sort that snaps off, in sections to give a fresh tip) - a Stanley knife would work too. The trick is to scrape it with the blade angled so that it doesn't dig in, it just glides over the surface, until you apply a bit more pressure. Any reason you tune to 442Hz? Does the intonation change if you tune lower?
TooSlowTube I agree, a knife does make more sense. I tuned to 442 because my undergrad university started tuning to that A temperament for some reason. I’m back to 440 up at grad school though. I doubt the horn would be greatly changed by 2 hz but I don’t own it anymore so yeah.
That's interesting. Maybe they were aiming to extend your range a little bit more by making the high notes a touch higher? I sometimes practise tuned to A=435Hz, which was the French academy tuning once apparently ("Diapason Normal"). Brass intruments tend to tune down pretty well, but intonation can start to suffer if you have to pull the tuning slide out too far. I have the Tromba cornet, and the intonation is pretty bad. if I get the third space C in tune, the 2nd line G wants to play more like an F#. From your review, they seem to have done a better job with the flugelhorn though.
TooSlowTube actually, anything that was above a G on top of the staff was very flat. Not by a half step, but usually more than 20 cents. I’m not sure if they were thinking about how much you needed to pull the lead pipe slide out to tune it. I always had to leave it in and use the main tuning slide they added to it.
Thanks. I ordered one earlier, but when I can't get those notes in tune, I'll be reassured it's not just me :) To be fair, my upper range is very poor. I manage the A above the stave on a very good day, when I've been practising quite a lot, recently. On the whole, I settle for less. The Tromba cornet bothers me because it's badly out of tune with itself in the range I normally find comfortable. I'm glad they added a U bend tuning slide, not just for the intonation reason, but because I tend to push the lead pipe sort in, by pressing too hard against the mouthpiece on high notes.
It’s easier in some ways and harder in others. You’ll normally use a much deeper mouthpiece so endurance in the upper register will be trickier. You won’t be playing much in the upper register though so that may not be a concern. Low notes will probably speak much better with the mouthpiece and the horn being more conical. It’s something you get use to if you switch between them.
Brian Martin you still like yours I was thinking of getting one to toss in my car to play while my wife is shopping, like a need another horn but the lightness of these a reccool plus you cant damage them easily.....it’s just about the valves sticking.
Brian Martin thx Brian ...I owned a P-trumpet a couple years ago that was very fun to take with me in the car it had a decent sound but the valves stuck all the time I finally got a refund...if I thought the Tromba didn’t have those valve issues I’d get one just to take with me when I traveled.
Hmmm...seems like a good review...if I could actually HEAR it! Gosh, just watched several videos by different people...why don't people CHECK the volume before publishing! So frustrating!
Not only were you the most useful reviewer of this item that I have found, you appeased my inner gamer with that tune from Smash Bros. Great vid 👍!
Great review. I got one for Xmas and didn't know til you showed me that it had a freaking tuning slide. I was using the mouthpiece pipe pulling it out to tune and some notes were awful bc they were so out of tune (A natural above staff for example)
I just got one May 2020, I am having the same problem I've adjusted all the slides and I can't get the notes in tune but I'm still trying.
I get the Tromba Flugelhorn about four weeks ago. I already had a Tromba trumpet and Yamaha Trumpet. I did have to work on the valves to loosen them up. I may have to do a little more shaving with an Exacto knife on one of the valve guides, but they are working much better now, although not as buttery smooth as both of the trumpets. I was beginning to think I was mistaken that the first and second tuning slides were supposed to work, but I did finally get them out. Both are still difficult to move, but that really isn't a problem a I can set both where they need to be and they stay put. I still have work to do on the third tuning slide. I know I will get that working smoothly but I may not really need to. I have found that with the mouthpiece pipe pulled out the length of my index finger tip to second knuckle, all the notes are either in tune or easily lipped into tune. I love playing this horn. Until I get above the staff, I find it easier to play than both trumpets, and the sound is wonderful. Mine is black but the tuning slides, valve caps shafts, and buttons are a very light gold. It looks great.
Thanks for the video. I just got mine about a month ago....having the same trouble with the valve guides. I filed mine down and went back with 4000 grit sand paper and made sure all the edges were smooth. I put some tuning slide grease on them as well. It worked for me. Pretty cool Flugelhorn!
Glad to hear. I'm about to file mine down in a few minutes. I'm gonna try to look for some metal lead pipes at my local music store this coming Monday.
Had to break it in the you do with a baseball glove it took about 5 days with monster oil and now it's much better
Thank you so much!
Have a nice day!
Very nice love it, sweet,where can I get the sound track?
thanks for the detail
Not bad, it doesn't have a ugly plastic sound at all.
It would not perform as "rich" as a brass one on all occasions, I think, though but that would have to be tested.
Thanks for the detailed review. I'm doing final checking up before ordering one, and this was very helpful.
ThinkingSpeck
Thank you for this review.I'm thinking to buy one (I own also a Tromba Trumpet and a Cornet).Can I ask you what tuning app you use on your smartphone?I have one that is not so accurate on chromatic tuning.Thanks again!
I use Pano Tuner and have never had a problem with it.
You might want to turn the volume up a bit.
Nice!
Thanks! What microphone was that & what equipment to record? Thanks again.
Good review. FWIW, I've adjusted plastic valve guides on a cheap brass flugel by scraping them with a sharp knife, rather than filing or sanding - it's easier to get a smooth surface.
If you file or sand, you tend to get a slightly rough surface, and ragged edges. I just used a cheap craft knife, with a wide blade (the sort that snaps off, in sections to give a fresh tip) - a Stanley knife would work too.
The trick is to scrape it with the blade angled so that it doesn't dig in, it just glides over the surface, until you apply a bit more pressure.
Any reason you tune to 442Hz? Does the intonation change if you tune lower?
TooSlowTube I agree, a knife does make more sense. I tuned to 442 because my undergrad university started tuning to that A temperament for some reason. I’m back to 440 up at grad school though. I doubt the horn would be greatly changed by 2 hz but I don’t own it anymore so yeah.
That's interesting. Maybe they were aiming to extend your range a little bit more by making the high notes a touch higher?
I sometimes practise tuned to A=435Hz, which was the French academy tuning once apparently ("Diapason Normal"). Brass intruments tend to tune down pretty well, but intonation can start to suffer if you have to pull the tuning slide out too far.
I have the Tromba cornet, and the intonation is pretty bad. if I get the third space C in tune, the 2nd line G wants to play more like an F#. From your review, they seem to have done a better job with the flugelhorn though.
TooSlowTube actually, anything that was above a G on top of the staff was very flat. Not by a half step, but usually more than 20 cents.
I’m not sure if they were thinking about how much you needed to pull the lead pipe slide out to tune it. I always had to leave it in and use the main tuning slide they added to it.
Thanks. I ordered one earlier, but when I can't get those notes in tune, I'll be reassured it's not just me :)
To be fair, my upper range is very poor. I manage the A above the stave on a very good day, when I've been practising quite a lot, recently. On the whole, I settle for less.
The Tromba cornet bothers me because it's badly out of tune with itself in the range I normally find comfortable.
I'm glad they added a U bend tuning slide, not just for the intonation reason, but because I tend to push the lead pipe sort in, by pressing too hard against the mouthpiece on high notes.
Hi Brian! For someone interested in brass playing, is flugel harder than trumpet?
It’s easier in some ways and harder in others. You’ll normally use a much deeper mouthpiece so endurance in the upper register will be trickier. You won’t be playing much in the upper register though so that may not be a concern. Low notes will probably speak much better with the mouthpiece and the horn being more conical. It’s something you get use to if you switch between them.
@@Brian.Martin.Trumpet Thank you!
What is that app yo showed on your phone?
Mark Wick Pano Tuner
7:29 Super smash bros melee lol
I see them on line for $159.00 is that the same unit youre playing ?
Correct. The rates have gone down over the last few years.
Brian Martin you still like yours I was thinking of getting one to toss in my car to play while my wife is shopping, like a need another horn but the lightness of these a reccool plus you cant damage them easily.....it’s just about the valves sticking.
Do you know if their flugelhorn is better playing quality than their trumpet ?
I'd give it to the trumpet over the flugelhorn.
Brian Martin thx Brian ...I owned a P-trumpet a couple years ago that was very fun to take with me in the car it had a decent sound but the valves stuck all the time I finally got a refund...if I thought the Tromba didn’t have those valve issues I’d get one just to take with me when I traveled.
Florentiner March 6:56 hmmmmmmmmmmm
Hmmm...seems like a good review...if I could actually HEAR it! Gosh, just watched several videos by different people...why don't people CHECK the volume before publishing! So frustrating!
I’ve listened to it on my desktop, phone, and headphones and can hear it just fine. Seems like a problem on your end.
Just watched on my phone... I could hear the horn playing perfectly clear it only cut out a brief period after he played then spoke.
very low volume!!
I can ear!!