It`s baffling how she can write all that and still not see that the racism against everybody else was the same racism that hit her. She still talks about it like it`s two different things. She still doesn`t see that it was a problem than, she still has the opinion it only became a problem just now, when it extended to her.
Exactly! How is being a "model minority" working out for you these days? As someone whose grandparents lived right next to a klu klux klan wildlife group in the south, these folks will need to learn how to watch their backs.🤷♀️
There are millions of Indians who aren’t racist who are now being subjected to horrific hate. You’re taking pleasure in this? Go read some of the things people are saying about a country of millions of people. It’s vile and dehumanising. If you think that’s a good thing, you’re just as bad.
India has a caste system, so they bring that belief system over here and are shocked when American reality shows them that they aren't any where near the top of the hierarchy.
Agree. Indian immigrants who come over here on H-1B visas are college educated elites in India, but they are desperate leave. Ask yourselves WHY they want to leave their own country in which they are already elites? The number of Indian people who come here under the "regular" immigration system yearly is small and it often takes more than a decade to even get near the top of the list to be the next one coming over. So, many of them come here on the H-1B program and are treated like indentured servants by people like Ramaswamy and Musk, but they stick with it for the promise of a obtaining a green card if they make it through six years. They become citizens, and then what? They're going to face the same kind of racism - a/k/a CASTE SYSTEM - in the United States that they had in India, only here, they're not at the top, they're looked down upon as (1) brown people and (2) just as bad, workers who take jobs that should be going to Americans (the white ones, of course). Now, with Trump in office, we're going to regress even worse than when he was in office in 2016-2020. I'm glad I'm an old lady. I can't deal with this anymore after living through the riots of the 1960s and the young people revolution (of which I was one back then) in the 1970s, women's liberation - and now it's all being flushed down the sewer drain because people fell for the BS of MAGA.
It's really annoying to see it again and again. Lots of people just don't care about certain issues unless it happens to them. Like conservative trad wives suddenly finding out that Oh maybe they shouldn't financially rely on a man when that man is abusive. Or anti-choicer's lives being in danger because the doctor won't give them the medical care they need because of the laws they voted for. It's like they lack the ability to feel empathy until something bad happens to them. This could all be avoided if they just listened in the first place.
It's funny because that can't recognize that it DOES effect them. They only have to think about it for 5 minutes to realize "oh, they're also looking down at me..."
When you're used to being the default to getting privilege, you don't have to think about these things because they don't normally affect you, or you can normally get out of that situation. The problem they have now is not only is the economy not in the best place to avoid these experiences, they're scared because another group has managed to get some powerful reins on the government and that is a direct potential effect on their privilege, at least that's what it's sounding like. It's just more clear now that this is what their concern is in all that FAFO...
Whenever they tell me they’re facing racism, from now on I tell them they’re overreacting and shutting down constructive conversations, 😂😂😂. They need to admit that they’re anti Black American and that is why they voted for trump and now they’re realizing that they were being used. I have nothing for them. No marches, no protesting, nothing. Let them get exactly what they voted for. “Deportations and tariffs” 🤷🏽♀️
A lot of them pine for white validation. Indian Trump supporters have a syndrome of wanting to feel special and important (which is done by elevating them over other communities). I just laugh at their stupidity. They were tryna live vicariously through Vivek and Usha Vance etc. only to realize that they aren't special and are not loathed any less by the racists.
Except plenty of Indians did. Y’all are just generalising and getting some sick sense of schaudenfreud. There’s plenty of MAGA latinos and blacks, is racism against them now okay too?
Which says everything about an individual's personal morality and ethics. I'm old. I can't have children and I don't have daughters but I still stood online for 7 hours (voting place snafu) to vote for women to have the right to their own bodies. I still stood online to vote for this country and for everyone against bigotry, misogyny, racism, and the billionaire tech bros, who don't care about ANY of us. But at my age after America showed me its collective behind yet again, I'm done. I only care about myself and my people - black people - the ones dragged here centuries ago and who know exactly what this country is and about. Everyone else can find out and get their faces eaten. Some people can't learn except through personal experience. Have at it! 🍷🍿🚬😑
I am minding my black woman business. A lot of POC come to Ameeica and look down on Black American, not realizing that had it not been for Black Americans, they would not have been in America. I am minding my business. This has nothing to do with us. Black Americans always knew.
But in doing so you’re generalising them too? Racism doesn’t beget racism and we should all care about each other. No minority is perfect, I think giving up is a sure way to let the racists win.
America is racist, doesn’t matter red or blue, lib or con. They are all racist against Indians. You guys don’t realize that 90% Indians vote blue. More than black men. Since we are in small numbers and don’t have good representation, we work hard and have higher income, education than others, we are targeted by both blacks and whites. It’s time Indians stop voting blue (ie stop voting at all), else we are being taken for granted by libs. So don’t hide behind Black business card.
Im surprised by Kiran… her teacher tried to tell her, her acquaintances who knew the history tried to warn her, even how the politicians were speaking should have clued her in…. At this point when you’re missing so many clues; you just don’t want to look for them
This is the same thing with Filipino MAGA voters who always brag about how America is better than the Philippines and how their lives are better than everyone elses. It made me remember of this saying that I've heard since childhood: "If it was a snake, it would've bitten you by now." They refused to look at the truth even when it's right in front of them.
You’re the problem. Racism is racism. You’re literally doing the exact same thing you claim to be against. There are millions of Indians who aren’t racist who are now being subjected to horrific hate, and you clearly don’t give af.
That leopard pic is so adorable. I like how she's continuously stating that liberals are perceiving things as racism, suspect racism, or believe there's racism from the right. Even after she was smacked in the face with their racism she uses the same terminology. Cognitive dissidence at its finest. She's seen the evidence that it's true, and she still can't phrase it like it's blatant reality. She does admit that there is an issue, but I don't think she can cope with the reality that it's always been there, and it's widespread. It's like she's compartmentalizing the evidence as a fringe occurrence.
I think a lot of 21st century immigrants hear about America being the land of opportunity and want to believe they can get ahead if they work well and keep their head down/don't make waves, but it shatters what they've been told about America to admit all the toxic traditions we have had here since the beginning that older minority groups talk about are real.
I think deep down she still thinks the racism against the others is just fine, she only doesn`t want it to be directed at her. If they would stop directing it at her she would go back to being totally fine with it and pretending like it doesn`t exist. She has no problem with racism, she has a problem that it impacts her.
@@anthill1510 that wouldn't surprise me. If true, it still fits with my first comment except that it might be intentional denial instead of cognitive dissidence.
Ive been watching Marry My Husband, there’s a manhwa with the same name but found the drama and have been binging. I’m not even married or in a relationship and it triggers me, but it’s pretty good
I'm side eyeing the author of that op-ed for not noticing (or being blind on purpose) until now. I've noticed it since I've been a kid. They keep thinking "doing things the right way" will shield them. Nope!
I can’t believe she put that in writing under her own name featuring a picture of herself. That’s the kind of thing you couldn’t water board out of me.
What blows my mind is that these kinds of people - the kind that dont mind racism unless/until it directly affects them - they get mad at people who call out racism even if they’re not personally affected by it. Like they can’t wrap their minds around someone unaffected by an issue fighting against that issue.
I don't feel sorry for her. At first she was too young and inexperienced to speak on matters she knew nothing about it. Now she only has an issue because she is being othered. It's almost like bigots group all of them together together 🙄
Look, I'm farther left than everyone I know personally. I got to my conclusions by learning about history and feminism (specifically womanism and intersectionalities between class and gender) and I have to ask: why do these people think we are fighting so hard? Was there no intellectual curiosity? Not once do people ask "huh, why are these people marching and fighting so hard?" It's the lack of curiosity and empathy that consistently bothers me.
They are on the top of the caste system where they are. They are taught they are genetically superior to everyone including their own people and Americans. If you are the best and smartest you never see a reason to listen to advice.
I think the term compartmentalizing may apply here. Like the other commenter mentioned, they see themselves as the same. So when we're talking about the history here, they put themselves in that category and don't care to venture outside of it because it's never been a possibility it would happen to them, or they could ignore if it did because they always thought the ends justified the means and it usually does. And when everyone else is saying that BP are just complaining because they think we want free handouts, it's easy to fall in line with that narrative because it's multiple groups saying it. Hence, why they come expecting us to jump into the suit and cape when wrong actually happens to them. Just once, I'd like consequences of one's actions to not be interrupted by BP. Just once, they need to find out just how bad it can really be. But I understand that it means people who don't think like this would be affected too...
Mexican girl here for me a win for the black community was always a win for the Hispanic community. I never understood the racism towards black people maybe it’s that I was raised with a more progressive family. I will never understand why some poc think it will never happen to them or think it’s victim mentally. Sorry for the rant
I don't understand it either, but my sister told me some Hispanics see themselves as "Spanish" and get upset by the notion they aren't, and I have a dumbass cousin who insists he's Italian. 🤷I guess some people just have to learn the hard way.
I care more about human business. Black people, Indians, Chinese, anyone can be a racist. Does that mean we all turn a blind eye to each other? That’s lazy.
Love everybody, but dont disrespect black Americans experience as if you know America better than we do....cause your finding out quickly that you don't
Yup and black americans were the ones who fought for the civil rights for all minorities and to allow immigrants from non-european countries (only ppl from Europe were allowed to immigrants to the USA back then). Without the legislations passed because of african americans, most of the non-white immigrants would've never been allowed into America and enjoy equality.
This is why teaching accurate American history is important. These folks have been taught the alternative history, the one that leaves our history out, making them like children who never learn the truth behind Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
As a Bengali woman I had to say something. None of my family ever voted for republicans. We people of colour need to make sure we are understanding we aren’t white and never will be. If one can hear and see how black Americans are treated daily prior to trump and actually care it isn’t that difficult to stand beside them to help fight against racism in the USA.
As an Indian American that grew up lower middle class in a predominantly republican white area during the 2000s, the article woman reeks of privilege. She didn't see racism because she was cushioned by economic class. I have never grown up without Indians being called filthy. My mother cried the day she realized that despite all the maximum setting airvent when cooking even eggs to prevent spice smell in the house, requiring bathing twice a day and several sets of shampooing, dousing us in strong scented lotions and perfumes, refusing to let anyone leave the house in clothes that were washed earlier than the night before, her kids would still be treated as if they were filthy just because of their skin color. Even now, when white people say we and our house don't smell or seem like "typical Indians", we see the racism veiled in the compliment. We learned the lesson then, I guess the privileged ones get to learn it now.
Hard cold reality, indeed! I worked with a white woman with an Indian husband, and she called his parents filthy. She would say these things, and I would just stare. She was my boss.
Exactly, these people cherry pick examples to promote hate. Indians are always treated poorly by blacks and whites. Because they see our hard work and know that they cannot match it.
The crazy thing is...Puerto Ricans are American. Anyone born there, the US virgin Islands, mariana islands, Guam and American Samoan are American by birth as they are US territories
Were they watching only 🦊news??? I'm whyt, and maggats have been openly racist this whole time! (Meaning, I'm sure I miss a lot as a whyt person, but I don't watch 🦊 or tv news.) Even Indian people near me have been telling me how very racist folks in the liberal bubble where I live are. I guess the good news is that people are learning the truth...
This is actually sad.. that they came here and thought they were better than the ones who fought for their right to come here and make a life for themselves. I am very glad that they are finally learning… too bad they had to FAFO. All they had to do was listen to us.
Small business is being crushed by regulations... Regulations exist because companies got caught doing something that caused harm or damage, were told to stop doing it, kept on doing it, then government said- ok, you had a chance to do better on your own, now I'm going to make you do better. Minding my 92% business, with a cuppa steaming hot tea.
@@pansepot1490And many times, it takes several repeat disasters before the gpvt is finally acting!! Look at how many mine disasters on Appalachia & elsewhere it took to get strong miners' unions to demand enforcement of the laws!! Yet too many voters in KY voted for that coal money RW GOPer for years, back in the 2010s!!
In trumps first campaign he was using anti immigrant rhetoric. Hiw does one forget that? The way op pretends he didnt and it was dems saying that trump will be racist is the actual racism is INSANE. I would have quit at the first paragraph
They really don't like him. If you were from Scandanavia would you give up , legalised equal pay, government sanctions maternity leave, women healthcare, excellent schools and FREE university education, excellent social security, infrastructure and FREE healthcare, excellent quality of life, ABBA, trolls and history to move to the US? Absolutely Not!
I'm a pasty white woman. I've also got several chronic illnesses/disabilities working against me. I face discriminatory tendencies (and ableist tendencies) on a all too frequent basis. From everyone from health care providers to family. Don't even get me started on the added misogyny from many of the same people. And many of the people giving these behaviors are people who are considered to be "less than" by pasty white people. Ffs..... face-palm 🤦♀️
@@BurbNBougiethank you! Have a good evening then 🩷 On the video: ''NOW we must reckon with an ugly part of the Maga agenda'' Oh please !! Girl get some help. You would have to pay me a lot of money to write such a self condemning article, no self awareness whatsoever to be found so I guess she can't feel shame for having aligned with white supremacists for so long as it benefited her...
I was born in the Caribbean, a proud Black naturalized American now. My father’s ancestors are Indians. What’s true about people in the African and Indian diaspora: they look down on Black Americans. They don’t connect the dots of European/ “whiteness” oppression as being the reason they left their homelands to come to the land of success. They don’t know their own history. Another side effect of European Imperialism. Fred Hampton was killed because he worked on creating coalitions between all disparate groups. Poor Blacks, poor whites, people of Latin descent, unions just to name a few. I think/ hope that all the non-white, and white adjacent groups are going to find out what the history of whiteness is and will feel a slight burn compared to what generations of Black Americans have endured building a country that treats them as Dalits.
Okay. This kind of talk has been going on for years. I heard a couple of my co-workers talking about the Indian students who rented houses. My CW's were saying that the Indians "carried bedbugs" and "left the houses dirty" and "smelling like curry." It was terrible, and untrue. (I have also heard similar things from commenters on YT.)
I worked in the hotel industry. From my CWs there I overheard the most outrageous BS. As far as they were concerned all POC carry bedbugs, to the point my manager would fumigate rooms where POC stayed for more than two nights. She never checked and did it to get a strike against the guests. So effed up.
@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 It's just bizarre to me. I'm from the UK where there is a sizeable minority of people of Indian and Pakistani descent. The idea of them being classified as "White" is just completely nuts! Even mixed race people have their own category; they're not just seen as "Black", but that's the One Drop Rule for yer.
Are we suppose to feel sorry for them? i don't think I can so I will simply remain silent. Not join in on the insults but not defend. Welcome to the daily experience of black women i guess. 🤷🏽♀️
Everyone has different experiences on Both sides of the aisle. No one group speaks for the overall movement. Staying out of that, yet it’s so disappointing..
Being against H1-B visas isn't racist. Because there are American citizens of all races and minorities being denied jobs because businesses are importing cheap labor from foreign nations.
I used to work in an IT recruiting firm about a decade ago. There are certain tech skill-sets, QA testers and DBAs come to mind where 90+ percent resumes are from H1Bs. And this is based off of searching resumes on the various job boards, so you can’t argue about low wages, because these were people who were uploading their resumes without having a specific job in mind.
@@tsm784I work in tech right now. You could actually call me a tech exec. It’s almost always the money. Most of the H1Bs I’ve ever seen or hired are green out of college or a code camp. The overwhelming majority aren’t coming with ANY special skills. I had a friend whose job was to bring in Indian mechanical engineers for different companies. I’ve seen their paperwork. There was nothing special about them either. It’s the money, Lebowski.
@@jaycol21 Yeah? Well that’s just like your opinion man (couldn’t resist). If you don’t mind me asking, does your company hold the employees’ H1Bs or do you hire them through a third party. Also I’m very surprised that most of the H1s are “green out of college”, because i have to assume that if you’re hiring straight out of college, then a good portion of them have to be F1s.
@@jaycol21 exactly the more Asian and Indian engineers we have hired the more it erodes their stereotype of being smarter. Their small population in America benefits them now but they are becoming exposed.
@@tsm784 It’s been a mixed bag and it’s a distinction without a difference for this conversation. 2nd best employee I’ve ever had was an young guy who was an H1B out of Mexico City that had gone through a code camp and we got through a contract house. (FTR The best was in her late 50s and had used punchcards in college). Most have been in their mid to late 20s. So fresh outta college is only slightly hyperbolic. My point is that the guy in my example was a standout. I’d bucket him as “exceptional” for sure. But it wasn’t an immigration status thing. He was just coincidentally really good. For the most part, though, they’ve been average. I’m not knocking “average”. Average has gotten the job done. I’ve been satisfied/pleased most of the time. But if we’d had to pay them the added 50%+ ish, virtually none of them would even be here. That’s why I say it’s the money. It’s not the skills. They’re not bringing exceptional skills as a standard. Having said all that, I do think that there is a shrinking of the skilled labor in the space among Americans. But that’s mostly because Americans have begun teaching our kids that college is a “scam”.
Guilty as charged! I used to be like Kiran, thinking that my Black brothers and sisters were always exagerating about racism and crying wolf. I am Dominican, and when I first arrived to the U.S. I never felt like I was being discriminated against or made to feel inferior. Granted, I was living in New Jersey, in predominatly Black and Latino city. It wasnt until I moved to Southern Illinois that I started to see it. I live in a college town, used to the diversity that the university attracts. But, when you go out to the other, predominatly white towns, in the area, it is very obvious. My worst experience was when I graduated with my teaching degree, and got a job teaching Spanish at the school district in one of those towns. The children were great, it was the adults that made me feel like I was nothing. One of the paraprofessionals (teacher aides), would lower her head and stare at the ground when she saw me coming, just so she would not have to say 'hi' to me. I have lived it, and now I know it exists. But I was just as clueless as Kiran, and I am grateful for the lesson. Now I kow better, but still have to deal with a lot of racism at work. Not directed at me specifically, but at my Latino and Muslim colleagues and families.
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me Poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller
May I recommend that all maga should read (and understand) the poem: “First they came first the Jews” By Pastor Niemöller, written as a post war confessional in 1946.
The thing is… Bureaucracy Has killed the practice of medicine…. bureaucracy enabled by the under regulated insurance industry… smh putting the blame anywhere but where it’s deserved
Now? NOW!? Honey, they were calling ‘immigrants like him’ filthy since day one. You just weren’t listening because you assumed you are one of the ‘good ones’.
Say it!!! They wouldn't even be in this country if it wasn't for the Civil Rights Movement!!! Theu need to show AA some respect!!! Hell, we're still fighting!!! They were ALL alright when the racism is aimed at black folks, but now they're racism is aimed against them__ I have no sympathy!!!
It always amazes me how people like this woman 'CAN'T BRING THEMSELVES TO DO IT' because they RESPECT their elders........ONLY WHEN it comes to talking about racism. Since when have children cared about their elders' feelings????
I don't have Facebook or twitter account because I deleted due to racist admins who tolerated violence against black ppl. I am glad I am saved from all these useless ppl who never learn.
I have to say this shit is pissing me off!! How about how the hell you so hyped to come to somebody else's country, I. E. America, and choose to ignore 400 years of history, because you don't find it culturally relevent???!! All of this shows me is no one but black people ever cared to pay attention to history class. None of these people have really ever cared about our place in America... it's hurtful and I'm trying my best. As the child of at least 1 second generation born American, to not even think in hate, but giiirllll... incensed
It must be nice to be that sheltered all your life. One of my friends whose parents are from India was screamed at in a restaurant AND at a gas station in 2016. At the gas station the person said: now that Trump is president, people like YOU will have to go back where you came from (she was born in the US). At the restaurant they yelled in front of her CHILD.
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"I enjoyed it, until it happened to me" is a real plague on our society.
Yea, “as long as it’s not me.” Now it’s 😨😭😫😫😭😭 I thought they liked us.
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Some real it doesn't matter til it's in my backyard.
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It`s baffling how she can write all that and still not see that the racism against everybody else was the same racism that hit her. She still talks about it like it`s two different things. She still doesn`t see that it was a problem than, she still has the opinion it only became a problem just now, when it extended to her.
Privileged Indian becomes privileged American. Votes conservative. Amazing.
They thought they were "the good ones".
Exactly! How is being a "model minority" working out for you these days? As someone whose grandparents lived right next to a klu klux klan wildlife group in the south, these folks will need to learn how to watch their backs.🤷♀️
They are of the Asian community. The model minority troupe is sadly accepted.
ruh-roh!
😂😂😂😂😂 They are quickly learning that's not true..
@@kenrickkahn They're learning there are no "good ones" to them.
Yep... feel EVERY PIECE of the racism we warned u about. But they said we were playing victim..... ah well.
That's where I am, truly
Yeah, this sounds like a "them" problem. 😂
Oh well.. Not our problem now..
It's above us now time for them to really learn....🤷🏿
There are millions of Indians who aren’t racist who are now being subjected to horrific hate. You’re taking pleasure in this? Go read some of the things people are saying about a country of millions of people. It’s vile and dehumanising. If you think that’s a good thing, you’re just as bad.
So she was in history class and still can’t connect the dots. She knew better than the professor I guess….
India has a caste system, so they bring that belief system over here and are shocked when American reality shows them that they aren't any where near the top of the hierarchy.
This.....
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Yup, lol.
BINGO
Agree. Indian immigrants who come over here on H-1B visas are college educated elites in India, but they are desperate leave. Ask yourselves WHY they want to leave their own country in which they are already elites? The number of Indian people who come here under the "regular" immigration system yearly is small and it often takes more than a decade to even get near the top of the list to be the next one coming over. So, many of them come here on the H-1B program and are treated like indentured servants by people like Ramaswamy and Musk, but they stick with it for the promise of a obtaining a green card if they make it through six years. They become citizens, and then what? They're going to face the same kind of racism - a/k/a CASTE SYSTEM - in the United States that they had in India, only here, they're not at the top, they're looked down upon as (1) brown people and (2) just as bad, workers who take jobs that should be going to Americans (the white ones, of course). Now, with Trump in office, we're going to regress even worse than when he was in office in 2016-2020. I'm glad I'm an old lady. I can't deal with this anymore after living through the riots of the 1960s and the young people revolution (of which I was one back then) in the 1970s, women's liberation - and now it's all being flushed down the sewer drain because people fell for the BS of MAGA.
Far too many people only care about the hate when it's pointed at them. Shameful.
It's really annoying to see it again and again. Lots of people just don't care about certain issues unless it happens to them. Like conservative trad wives suddenly finding out that Oh maybe they shouldn't financially rely on a man when that man is abusive. Or anti-choicer's lives being in danger because the doctor won't give them the medical care they need because of the laws they voted for. It's like they lack the ability to feel empathy until something bad happens to them. This could all be avoided if they just listened in the first place.
It's funny because that can't recognize that it DOES effect them. They only have to think about it for 5 minutes to realize "oh, they're also looking down at me..."
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It's almost as if they're missing one of those things by which we define an individual's humanity.
When you're used to being the default to getting privilege, you don't have to think about these things because they don't normally affect you, or you can normally get out of that situation. The problem they have now is not only is the economy not in the best place to avoid these experiences, they're scared because another group has managed to get some powerful reins on the government and that is a direct potential effect on their privilege, at least that's what it's sounding like. It's just more clear now that this is what their concern is in all that FAFO...
Stock syndrome opportunistic zombies will always fall on their swords in real life.
I’m going to tell them to stop playing the race card.
Pull up them bootstraps
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They just got a chip on their shoulders 😅😅😅
I see nothing! Sounds like a personal problem not a Freedman descendant problem.
Exactly
Whenever they tell me they’re facing racism, from now on I tell them they’re overreacting and shutting down constructive conversations, 😂😂😂. They need to admit that they’re anti Black American and that is why they voted for trump and now they’re realizing that they were being used. I have nothing for them. No marches, no protesting, nothing. Let them get exactly what they voted for. “Deportations and tariffs” 🤷🏽♀️
EXAAAAAAACTLY. Lots and lots of times I have witnessed this among my Indian friends. I just stand back and let them see for themselves.
Minding our black business indefinitely
They definitely gotta lot of unpacking to do. Until then they get to deal with the team they chose.
Exactly thanks!!!!!! Some admit it. Now that the election is over, others are still doing mental gymnastics to justify their vote
A lot of them pine for white validation. Indian Trump supporters have a syndrome of wanting to feel special and important (which is done by elevating them over other communities). I just laugh at their stupidity. They were tryna live vicariously through Vivek and Usha Vance etc. only to realize that they aren't special and are not loathed any less by the racists.
It is a shame that you can't care about something until it affects you. SMH
Except plenty of Indians did. Y’all are just generalising and getting some sick sense of schaudenfreud. There’s plenty of MAGA latinos and blacks, is racism against them now okay too?
Which says everything about an individual's personal morality and ethics. I'm old. I can't have children and I don't have daughters but I still stood online for 7 hours (voting place snafu) to vote for women to have the right to their own bodies. I still stood online to vote for this country and for everyone against bigotry, misogyny, racism, and the billionaire tech bros, who don't care about ANY of us. But at my age after America showed me its collective behind yet again, I'm done. I only care about myself and my people - black people - the ones dragged here centuries ago and who know exactly what this country is and about. Everyone else can find out and get their faces eaten. Some people can't learn except through personal experience. Have at it! 🍷🍿🚬😑
I am minding my black woman business. A lot of POC come to Ameeica and look down on Black American, not realizing that had it not been for Black Americans, they would not have been in America.
I am minding my business. This has nothing to do with us. Black Americans always knew.
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Yep this extends to other black immigrants. Let them learn
But in doing so you’re generalising them too? Racism doesn’t beget racism and we should all care about each other. No minority is perfect, I think giving up is a sure way to let the racists win.
Maybe they should make an effort to...fit in better.
America is racist, doesn’t matter red or blue, lib or con. They are all racist against Indians. You guys don’t realize that 90% Indians vote blue. More than black men. Since we are in small numbers and don’t have good representation, we work hard and have higher income, education than others, we are targeted by both blacks and whites. It’s time Indians stop voting blue (ie stop voting at all), else we are being taken for granted by libs. So don’t hide behind Black business card.
Im surprised by Kiran… her teacher tried to tell her, her acquaintances who knew the history tried to warn her, even how the politicians were speaking should have clued her in…. At this point when you’re missing so many clues; you just don’t want to look for them
She didn’t think they applied to her!
This is the same thing with Filipino MAGA voters who always brag about how America is better than the Philippines and how their lives are better than everyone elses.
It made me remember of this saying that I've heard since childhood:
"If it was a snake, it would've bitten you by now."
They refused to look at the truth even when it's right in front of them.
She lost me, when she said the babysitter is her friend. No ma'am she is your employee and needs her paycheck.
She was in school eight years ago, she can't be older than 25. The "years-long babysitter" must have been her parents' employee when she was a child.
And they wonder why there’s so much vitriol and no one really racing to their defense…besides themselves.
NOW it's raw bigotry.😂
92% here. we tried to tell ya'll..It be's that way .......... too bad ,--so sad....
This! WE'RE ON A BREAK... INDEFINITELY...don't look for us. Don't call on us because we're not answering.
You’re the problem. Racism is racism. You’re literally doing the exact same thing you claim to be against. There are millions of Indians who aren’t racist who are now being subjected to horrific hate, and you clearly don’t give af.
@Pepe-em9gj What a productive mindset 🙄
@@notaspeck6104 Apparently as productive as busting our asses for people who wouldn't spit on us if we were on fire! Figure your own mess out lol.
That leopard pic is so adorable.
I like how she's continuously stating that liberals are perceiving things as racism, suspect racism, or believe there's racism from the right. Even after she was smacked in the face with their racism she uses the same terminology.
Cognitive dissidence at its finest. She's seen the evidence that it's true, and she still can't phrase it like it's blatant reality. She does admit that there is an issue, but I don't think she can cope with the reality that it's always been there, and it's widespread. It's like she's compartmentalizing the evidence as a fringe occurrence.
She's angry that liberals were right and she can't bring herself to say she was wrong/worry.
@beardpapa12 that would definitely feed into the cognitive dissidence.
I think a lot of 21st century immigrants hear about America being the land of opportunity and want to believe they can get ahead if they work well and keep their head down/don't make waves, but it shatters what they've been told about America to admit all the toxic traditions we have had here since the beginning that older minority groups talk about are real.
I think deep down she still thinks the racism against the others is just fine, she only doesn`t want it to be directed at her. If they would stop directing it at her she would go back to being totally fine with it and pretending like it doesn`t exist. She has no problem with racism, she has a problem that it impacts her.
@@anthill1510 that wouldn't surprise me. If true, it still fits with my first comment except that it might be intentional denial instead of cognitive dissidence.
" woe is me, im a Brahmin i demand to be at the top like the caucasians".
Anyway im having tacos and Bissap for dinner.
Any good korean show out atm?
Squid games is back
It's old but if you haven't watched The Glory - I highly recommend it.
Tacos sound amazing! 😋
Ive been watching Marry My Husband, there’s a manhwa with the same name but found the drama and have been binging. I’m not even married or in a relationship and it triggers me, but it’s pretty good
@PotsandPansWhatsPotsandPans my favorite Kdrama. It's one of the best!
I'm side eyeing the author of that op-ed for not noticing (or being blind on purpose) until now. I've noticed it since I've been a kid. They keep thinking "doing things the right way" will shield them. Nope!
I can’t believe she put that in writing under her own name featuring a picture of herself. That’s the kind of thing you couldn’t water board out of me.
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What blows my mind is that these kinds of people - the kind that dont mind racism unless/until it directly affects them - they get mad at people who call out racism even if they’re not personally affected by it. Like they can’t wrap their minds around someone unaffected by an issue fighting against that issue.
Patrick Ben David comes to mind. The leopards are feasting on his face and xss.
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But NOW it's raw bigotry! 😂
Patrick Bet David
I don't feel sorry for her. At first she was too young and inexperienced to speak on matters she knew nothing about it. Now she only has an issue because she is being othered. It's almost like bigots group all of them together together 🙄
This! No sympathy. At all. She and her ilk can ALL feel it.
Look, I'm farther left than everyone I know personally. I got to my conclusions by learning about history and feminism (specifically womanism and intersectionalities between class and gender) and I have to ask: why do these people think we are fighting so hard? Was there no intellectual curiosity? Not once do people ask "huh, why are these people marching and fighting so hard?"
It's the lack of curiosity and empathy that consistently bothers me.
They are on the top of the caste system where they are. They are taught they are genetically superior to everyone including their own people and Americans. If you are the best and smartest you never see a reason to listen to advice.
No critical thinking whatsoever. Just the cult of empiricism and fact collecting. No interest in what any of it means.
Why? Do you not understand that they see themselves as White Americans?
I guess they think we're fighting against them and not for them.
I think the term compartmentalizing may apply here. Like the other commenter mentioned, they see themselves as the same. So when we're talking about the history here, they put themselves in that category and don't care to venture outside of it because it's never been a possibility it would happen to them, or they could ignore if it did because they always thought the ends justified the means and it usually does. And when everyone else is saying that BP are just complaining because they think we want free handouts, it's easy to fall in line with that narrative because it's multiple groups saying it. Hence, why they come expecting us to jump into the suit and cape when wrong actually happens to them. Just once, I'd like consequences of one's actions to not be interrupted by BP. Just once, they need to find out just how bad it can really be. But I understand that it means people who don't think like this would be affected too...
If there is one group that idgaf about how they're feeling/saying it's this one. These people are so wildly racist, it's astounding .
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Sorrows. Sorrows. Prayers. Prayers.
Thoughts and tariffs
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@@TheSunnymuffins
Thoughts & oligarchs
Concepts 🙏🏽😂
I hear you saying that in a posh British accent and a fabulous wig👑
Mexican girl here for me a win for the black community was always a win for the Hispanic community. I never understood the racism towards black people maybe it’s that I was raised with a more progressive family. I will never understand why some poc think it will never happen to them or think it’s victim mentally. Sorry for the rant
I don't understand it either, but my sister told me some Hispanics see themselves as "Spanish" and get upset by the notion they aren't, and I have a dumbass cousin who insists he's Italian. 🤷I guess some people just have to learn the hard way.
I don’t give af abt these ppl. We are matching energies.
She's getting exactly what she voted for so don't whine now
Yeah but she thought it would just be anti-black racism & she would be safe.
This is soooo embarrassing. I can’t believe she didn’t write this anonymously.
Lol 😂
Her inbox is about to be FLOODED by racists who are incensed that she had the nerve to speak up
I'm minding my Black business 🙂↔️
Yep..
Truth in real time.
Right!
I care more about human business. Black people, Indians, Chinese, anyone can be a racist. Does that mean we all turn a blind eye to each other? That’s lazy.
I cosign this message ✊🏿
Off topic, but I gotta say these lady leopards you've been showing are just too pretty! Maybe I'll be a Burb Lady Leopard for Halloween this year🤭❤
Oooh that is a GREAT idea!
YOINK😅
@mzgreenjeansapproves 😎👍❤️
Love everybody, but dont disrespect black Americans experience as if you know America better than we do....cause your finding out quickly that you don't
Nobody knows America like we do!
Facts 🔥🔥🔥but they don’t like Black America✨🖤
Yup and black americans were the ones who fought for the civil rights for all minorities and to allow immigrants from non-european countries (only ppl from Europe were allowed to immigrants to the USA back then). Without the legislations passed because of african americans, most of the non-white immigrants would've never been allowed into America and enjoy equality.
The blame Black people for the situation we are in.
This is why teaching accurate American history is important. These folks have been taught the alternative history, the one that leaves our history out, making them like children who never learn the truth behind Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
As a Bengali woman I had to say something. None of my family ever voted for republicans. We people of colour need to make sure we are understanding we aren’t white and never will be. If one can hear and see how black Americans are treated daily prior to trump and actually care it isn’t that difficult to stand beside them to help fight against racism in the USA.
Thank you
Exactly! Indians vote blue, always. These people cherry pick examples to promote hate.
Thank you! Love you, boo.
As an Indian American that grew up lower middle class in a predominantly republican white area during the 2000s, the article woman reeks of privilege. She didn't see racism because she was cushioned by economic class. I have never grown up without Indians being called filthy. My mother cried the day she realized that despite all the maximum setting airvent when cooking even eggs to prevent spice smell in the house, requiring bathing twice a day and several sets of shampooing, dousing us in strong scented lotions and perfumes, refusing to let anyone leave the house in clothes that were washed earlier than the night before, her kids would still be treated as if they were filthy just because of their skin color. Even now, when white people say we and our house don't smell or seem like "typical Indians", we see the racism veiled in the compliment. We learned the lesson then, I guess the privileged ones get to learn it now.
Hard cold reality, indeed! I worked with a white woman with an Indian husband, and she called his parents filthy. She would say these things, and I would just stare. She was my boss.
You still have white people coming to your house? Smh you still havent learned.
Exactly, these people cherry pick examples to promote hate. Indians are always treated poorly by blacks and whites. Because they see our hard work and know that they cannot match it.
So she thought she was special...
They are about to find that there is a caste system in Amerikkka and they are not at the top. I will enjoy the show.
MAGA Indian-Americans are learning. Don't forget that the majority of the community votes (and continued to vote) Democrat. So they've always known.
The crazy thing is...Puerto Ricans are American. Anyone born there, the US virgin Islands, mariana islands, Guam and American Samoan are American by birth as they are US territories
Were they watching only 🦊news??? I'm whyt, and maggats have been openly racist this whole time! (Meaning, I'm sure I miss a lot as a whyt person, but I don't watch 🦊 or tv news.) Even Indian people near me have been telling me how very racist folks in the liberal bubble where I live are.
I guess the good news is that people are learning the truth...
The Indian Americans I've known and worked with have all been openly anti black. They are free with it around white people like me.
It was raw bigotry when it was aimed at everyone else, but now it's aimed at them and now it's a problem. Smh
"AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH! THE LEOPARD IS EATING MY FACE! WHY IS THE LEOPARD EATING MY FACE?!? I VOTED FOR IT!"
maga by summer ...
This is actually sad.. that they came here and thought they were better than the ones who fought for their right to come here and make a life for themselves. I am very glad that they are finally learning… too bad they had to FAFO. All they had to do was listen to us.
Oh, no. Anyway….
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“Didn’t believe them until now” = believed it was only directed at other people and I was special, one of them
Small business is being crushed by regulations... Regulations exist because companies got caught doing something that caused harm or damage, were told to stop doing it, kept on doing it, then government said- ok, you had a chance to do better on your own, now I'm going to make you do better.
Minding my 92% business, with a cuppa steaming hot tea.
As they say “safety regulations are written in blood”.
@@pansepot1490And many times, it takes several repeat disasters before the gpvt is finally acting!! Look at how many mine disasters on Appalachia & elsewhere it took to get strong miners' unions to demand enforcement of the laws!! Yet too many voters in KY voted for that coal money RW GOPer for years, back in the 2010s!!
In trumps first campaign he was using anti immigrant rhetoric. Hiw does one forget that? The way op pretends he didnt and it was dems saying that trump will be racist is the actual racism is INSANE. I would have quit at the first paragraph
TFG was talking about Norwegians and Swedish people and they clowned him like "Why would we want to come there?!" 😂
They really don't like him. If you were from Scandanavia would you give up , legalised equal pay, government sanctions maternity leave, women healthcare, excellent schools and FREE university education, excellent social security, infrastructure and FREE healthcare, excellent quality of life, ABBA, trolls and history to move to the US? Absolutely Not!
Probably got butthurt and is why he won’t stop wagging about Greenland now
Humans unwillingness to learn from their own behaviours and experiences is astounding to me
Thoughts and prayers... thoughts and prayers 🤣🤣
I'm a pasty white woman. I've also got several chronic illnesses/disabilities working against me.
I face discriminatory tendencies (and ableist tendencies) on a all too frequent basis.
From everyone from health care providers to family.
Don't even get me started on the added misogyny from many of the same people.
And many of the people giving these behaviors are people who are considered to be "less than" by pasty white people.
Ffs..... face-palm 🤦♀️
Sometimes people in insecure postitions will grasp at whatever little power they can wield over others to feel something.
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The "house slaves" vs the "field slaves" bigotry!! @@Iquey
As a disabled white woman, I've found a lot of insight in Black & Latina feminism.
Its almost as if they're missing something by which ppl define an individual's humanity.
That empathy thing, I think?
@BlackRaven000
Exactly
She obviously didn't learn jack crap from her history class. She'll learn today!
Thats why immigrants arent respected....absolutely no skin in the game....none
They have more skin in the game than you do because Trump's policies go after them in particular. Take your head out.
@@siobhannoble8545
Yet they continue to vote against their best interest….
If someone needs to get their heads out of their tails. It’s them.
Posted one minute ago lmao. I'm cleaning up and going to bed soon with your voice in my ears. Have a good day ! (Guessing it's daytime where you are)
😴 It's early evening here! Sleep well!
@@BurbNBougiethank you! Have a good evening then 🩷
On the video:
''NOW we must reckon with an ugly part of the Maga agenda'' Oh please !! Girl get some help. You would have to pay me a lot of money to write such a self condemning article, no self awareness whatsoever to be found so I guess she can't feel shame for having aligned with white supremacists for so long as it benefited her...
I was born in the Caribbean, a proud Black naturalized American now. My father’s ancestors are Indians. What’s true about people in the African and Indian diaspora: they look down on Black Americans. They don’t connect the dots of European/ “whiteness” oppression as being the reason they left their homelands to come to the land of success. They don’t know their own history. Another side effect of European Imperialism.
Fred Hampton was killed because he worked on creating coalitions between all disparate groups. Poor Blacks, poor whites, people of Latin descent, unions just to name a few. I think/ hope that all the non-white, and white adjacent groups are going to find out what the history of whiteness is and will feel a slight burn compared to what generations of Black Americans have endured building a country that treats them as Dalits.
Okay. This kind of talk has been going on for years. I heard a couple of my co-workers talking about the Indian students who rented houses. My CW's were saying that the Indians "carried bedbugs" and "left the houses dirty" and "smelling like curry." It was terrible, and untrue. (I have also heard similar things from commenters on YT.)
I worked in the hotel industry. From my CWs there I overheard the most outrageous BS. As far as they were concerned all POC carry bedbugs, to the point my manager would fumigate rooms where POC stayed for more than two nights. She never checked and did it to get a strike against the guests. So effed up.
It’s been at least 10 years since trump started the maga movement. 10 years for this person to realize this
But trump was only racist to Mexicans. And black people and Muslims and native Americans and..
They made their bed. Now they can lie in it
That conversation between Vivek and Anne Coulter was epic. I never saw such a face crumple happen in real time like that.
What's East Asian for "Womp, womp?" 🐆
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As long as there’s no BP involved, idc what happens to anyone else. #NotOurPeopleNotOurProblem
Exactly!!! I agree. Indian people should feel the same.
The US Census classified Indian Americans* as “white.” But MAGA and other wht ppl say otherwise.
*edited for clarity.
What? Since when are brown skinned people seen as White?
@toomuchimformation… 😒this is where you learn that racial classifications have nothing to do with skin color.
@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 It's just bizarre to me. I'm from the UK where there is a sizeable minority of people of Indian and Pakistani descent. The idea of them being classified as "White" is just completely nuts! Even mixed race people have their own category; they're not just seen as "Black", but that's the One Drop Rule for yer.
@@toomuchinformation some of them are white. The northern ones to be specific. The darker ones are South Asian.
I never heard of this
People don’t care about each other only their own self preservation. It’s plain to see.
She is too cute!!! Omg!!!🩷😍
Are we suppose to feel sorry for them? i don't think I can so I will simply remain silent. Not join in on the insults but not defend. Welcome to the daily experience of black women i guess. 🤷🏽♀️
It's a real cutie leopard today ❤
Everyone has different experiences on Both sides of the aisle. No one group speaks for the overall movement. Staying out of that, yet it’s so disappointing..
These are called consequences. Ply stupid games, win stupid prizes. This is something you can recognize all over the world now. Dark times ahead.
Leopard News Network??!? Ayo sis, I'm dying over here😂
I swear... if you find a way to animate that avatar, I'd never catch my breath 🤣🤣💀! Subbed!
Interesting that the only people that believe in the American dream are living it the rest of us are living in reality.
Yup, the American Dream died quite a number of years ago. Pretty much finalized under Reagan.
Being against H1-B visas isn't racist. Because there are American citizens of all races and minorities being denied jobs because businesses are importing cheap labor from foreign nations.
I used to work in an IT recruiting firm about a decade ago. There are certain tech skill-sets, QA testers and DBAs come to mind where 90+ percent resumes are from H1Bs. And this is based off of searching resumes on the various job boards, so you can’t argue about low wages, because these were people who were uploading their resumes without having a specific job in mind.
@@tsm784I work in tech right now. You could actually call me a tech exec. It’s almost always the money. Most of the H1Bs I’ve ever seen or hired are green out of college or a code camp.
The overwhelming majority aren’t coming with ANY special skills.
I had a friend whose job was to bring in Indian mechanical engineers for different companies. I’ve seen their paperwork. There was nothing special about them either.
It’s the money, Lebowski.
@@jaycol21
Yeah? Well that’s just like your opinion man (couldn’t resist).
If you don’t mind me asking, does your company hold the employees’ H1Bs or do you hire them through a third party.
Also I’m very surprised that most of the H1s are “green out of college”, because i have to assume that if you’re hiring straight out of college, then a good portion of them have to be F1s.
@@jaycol21 exactly the more Asian and Indian engineers we have hired the more it erodes their stereotype of being smarter. Their small population in America benefits them now but they are becoming exposed.
@@tsm784 It’s been a mixed bag and it’s a distinction without a difference for this conversation.
2nd best employee I’ve ever had was an young guy who was an H1B out of Mexico City that had gone through a code camp and we got through a contract house. (FTR The best was in her late 50s and had used punchcards in college).
Most have been in their mid to late 20s. So fresh outta college is only slightly hyperbolic.
My point is that the guy in my example was a standout. I’d bucket him as “exceptional” for sure. But it wasn’t an immigration status thing. He was just coincidentally really good. For the most part, though, they’ve been average.
I’m not knocking “average”. Average has gotten the job done. I’ve been satisfied/pleased most of the time. But if we’d had to pay them the added 50%+ ish, virtually none of them would even be here.
That’s why I say it’s the money. It’s not the skills. They’re not bringing exceptional skills as a standard.
Having said all that, I do think that there is a shrinking of the skilled labor in the space among Americans. But that’s mostly because Americans have begun teaching our kids that college is a “scam”.
It's really sad when they find out too late.
Nobody Cares
Guilty as charged! I used to be like Kiran, thinking that my Black brothers and sisters were always exagerating about racism and crying wolf. I am Dominican, and when I first arrived to the U.S. I never felt like I was being discriminated against or made to feel inferior. Granted, I was living in New Jersey, in predominatly Black and Latino city. It wasnt until I moved to Southern Illinois that I started to see it. I live in a college town, used to the diversity that the university attracts. But, when you go out to the other, predominatly white towns, in the area, it is very obvious. My worst experience was when I graduated with my teaching degree, and got a job teaching Spanish at the school district in one of those towns. The children were great, it was the adults that made me feel like I was nothing. One of the paraprofessionals (teacher aides), would lower her head and stare at the ground when she saw me coming, just so she would not have to say 'hi' to me. I have lived it, and now I know it exists. But I was just as clueless as Kiran, and I am grateful for the lesson. Now I kow better, but still have to deal with a lot of racism at work. Not directed at me specifically, but at my Latino and Muslim colleagues and families.
I hope you're doing better today!
I’m 76, white and liberal. Can I sing “I never thought leopards would eat my face” in public?
Yes. Absolutely. Make sure there's a camera nearby.
@ thank you. I may record myself.
One name: Mahatma Gandhi. I don’t have to say more.
No sympathy from me, because this is what THEY voted for.
1:04 that teacher was kind for that
Her argument is lazy, she needs to stop playing the race card.
Aww. She thought she was special. 😂
With longer eyelashes she’d look just like Rep Jasmine Crockett 💕 ❤❤❤
I really like your leopards, they're so much fun.
This is hilarious 😂😂 too bad finding out the truth the hard way. Better luck next time 😂😂
They'll get no help from me.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller
May I recommend that all maga should read (and understand) the poem:
“First they came first the Jews”
By Pastor Niemöller, written as a post war confessional in 1946.
The thing is… Bureaucracy Has killed the practice of medicine…. bureaucracy enabled by the under regulated insurance industry… smh putting the blame anywhere but where it’s deserved
Nuts!
Another aspirationally white South Asian learns.
This kind of idiocy is the problem with the world
I honestly don't get why people idolize u.s so much. What's great about it?
Brand marketing for market domination.
And when was it great before?
Now? NOW!? Honey, they were calling ‘immigrants like him’ filthy since day one. You just weren’t listening because you assumed you are one of the ‘good ones’.
Say it!!! They wouldn't even be in this country if it wasn't for the Civil Rights Movement!!! Theu need to show AA some respect!!! Hell, we're still fighting!!! They were ALL alright when the racism is aimed at black folks, but now they're racism is aimed against them__ I have no sympathy!!!
Hey, in this country women aren’t even equal citizens - by law! And we’re “only” 51% of the population. This country’s got such a long way to go.
It always amazes me how people like this woman 'CAN'T BRING THEMSELVES TO DO IT' because they RESPECT their elders........ONLY WHEN it comes to talking about racism.
Since when have children cared about their elders' feelings????
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9:35
"That's not what a hate crime is."
"Well, i hated it!"
I don't have Facebook or twitter account because I deleted due to racist admins who tolerated violence against black ppl. I am glad I am saved from all these useless ppl who never learn.
I have to say this shit is pissing me off!! How about how the hell you so hyped to come to somebody else's country, I. E. America, and choose to ignore 400 years of history, because you don't find it culturally relevent???!! All of this shows me is no one but black people ever cared to pay attention to history class. None of these people have really ever cared about our place in America... it's hurtful and I'm trying my best. As the child of at least 1 second generation born American, to not even think in hate, but giiirllll... incensed
It must be nice to be that sheltered all your life. One of my friends whose parents are from India was screamed at in a restaurant AND at a gas station in 2016. At the gas station the person said: now that Trump is president, people like YOU will have to go back where you came from (she was born in the US). At the restaurant they yelled in front of her CHILD.
Just desserts. Not feeling sorry for her at all.