Bought my 5513 Submariner in Vietnam and it’s been on my wrist to this day. It’s part of me and will go to my grandson one of these days. I just hope he wears it like I did and passes it down to his son. It is the most iconic of all watches. You can’t put a price on it.
my father traded the ak47 he brought back from vietnam (despite it being against regulations) and since I can remember , I have wanted one. He ended up trading his for a colt naval revolver that turned out to be a fugeza, lots of lessons in that story, I finally got my own a couple of weeks ago
@@litan114You obviously think so but it’s the real deal. It’s been serviced a few times and don’t you think it would have showed up during service? This watch has lasted well over 50 yrs and still keeps good time. Yeah it’s fake dude just like you.
Excellent video. Yore the first UA-camr who (like me) loves a date on their watch, yet acknowledges that the cyclops only works when viewed straight on. It’s still a great feature, but glare from lighting and the bubble itself make legibility of the date often difficult.
I bought one as an impulse buy just after I got divorced about 20 years ago and had about 3k to my name so I blew that on a Submariner. It's brilliant, I spent 8 years or so working in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq and rarely took it off. It is currently getting (rather expensively) serviced so currently I don't know the time as it's my only watch. Looking forward to getting it back. PS Thanks to this really interesting video I learnt that it was introduced in 1953 - just like me.
I have been in the world of watches for a few years, and like most, I got fixated with different brands and different models over the years, but in the end I go full circle and the submariner shines through the noise. The downside is the AD experience, that can vary greatly depending on your location, and getting robbed.
I can confirm it is a perfect one watch collection. I bought my Submariner in 1994 and was my only watch until around 2012-13 when I started getting some other watches. It did everything from wearing with a suit at work to nights out on the lash in my youth to travels abroad.
I own the No-Date model 114060 from 2010 because I prefer the symmetry and don’t like the cyclops that much. I think it is one of the most wearable and versatile watches out there and I’ve rarely worn watches that are more comfortable on the wrist.
Im also a proud owner of 114060, this watch is a master piece, built like a tank and the only one in my collection, from wearimg shorts, gym, tennis and three piece suits, this watch does it all, expensive but will hold the value
Sold my early 90s Sub and was able to buy 2 new Tudors (BB Chrono and Pelagos 42) as replacements. I don't regret it (yet) as I feel the modern Tudors are of equal or better quality and less common (and less copied) than a Sub.
Rolex Sub Date - often referred to as the one and done. Am also of the opinion that this is correct. Though - I’ve yet to find a man whom has executed this “one and done” strategy.
Although I like the submariner I find there’s just too many around and seems to be the automatic choice for people who aren’t watch enthusiasts. I recently got a SD43 with the mark 1 dial which I love but have been tempted towards a sub as it’s more wearable but I stayed loyal and now wear the SD43 on a Rubber B which it more comfortable and under the radar…, if I want I can always put the bracelet back on if the occasion arises, that is now my 1 watch collection 👍🏻 Great video Andy keep up the good work mate 👌🏻
Nice one! Personally, I'd go DJ, OP or Explorer as a 1 watch GADA. Unless you dive, they do it all. I think the modern 6 digit Subs have got a bit unrefined in an effort to look toolish. Also, I just don't find them comfortable. Yes, they're better made than a 5 digit, but not as versatile or comfortable. A 5 digit did me 20 years 24/7 as a diver, marine biologist and then forester. 6 digit with a suit? I've got one and I wouldn't! Beyond Rolex, I think the Speedy is more day-to-day versatile unless you do watersports or marine work.
I don’t know if I could settle on just one watch. However, the Submariner plus a Cartier Tank would likely suffice for a two watch collection for me. Everyone is different though. I would be interested in hearing about different individual ideas for a two watch collection.
Great video. 👍🇬🇧 I have a 41mm No Date and it is a keeper. My grail is the GMT II Rolesor which doesn’t get much wrist time as it’s too blingy and a scratch magnet. The Sub is perfect for me… an icon.
I have a 50th Anniversary Sea Dweller that I managed to get retail last year. Perfect for my 7.5” wrists. It wears that little bigger than a sub but on my wrists no one would notice the difference. I love it. Like the submariner It would be my only watch if only I didn’t feel vulnerable wearing it these days. So always careful to cover it when out in the UK. I will never sell it but its a shame that it doesn’t get the wrist time I want to give it. So will have to continue to use my original Omega Seamaster 300m (Pierce Brosnan version) and Seiko Proplex King Turtle Diver for most of the time.
Such a tough question b/c so much depends on the individual’s life and lifestyle. If you’re retired, daily wear is dress casual, and you’re frequently at the pool, then I can absolutely see a sub (although I prefer the sub vs the date sub) checking 90% of the boxes. If you’re in a suit&tie every day but still want the option of taking it to the pool, I think a DJ, VC 222, or Omega AT checks those same boxes better. Suit&tie every day and no need for water resistance? The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper.
Andy, the quality of your videos is really coming along nicely. Appreciate the improvements you've made to lighting and sound over the past few months. Feel your subscriber count is about to go on a hockey-stick climb! Nice work
I just picked up the GMT Master II all black 116710LN and find it to be an absolutely perfect daily wear, one watch collection. The subtle difference of having polished bracelet center links and a GMT function steps it up a notch over the submariner, for travel and more formal occasions. Although, I'm admittedly bias.
Personally, I feel the Omega AT is a better option as a one watch to do everything instead of a dive watch. The AT is a true swiss Army knife and can be dressed up and down. The AT is also 50% cheaper than the Sub and attainable.
literally this watch and the explorer should be available all the time. Rolex should make them more and give a chance for anyone who wants one to have it
❤lovely collection you have there. If I had to live with just one watch it would be the Rolex datejust 36mm siver dial smooth bezel on Oyster bracelet or the Omega Aquaterra
Nice video and I pretty much agree. The sub is just so perfect that all they can do is tweak it here and there. Kind of like a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. It just works.
The modern sub is an amazing watch for so many occasions. The only thing is that I feel it doesn’t wear that well and is a little more bulky under the cuff compared to an OP or Explorer 1 which is my preferred one watch collection
Shoot, if you're going for either an OP or an Explorer 1, may as well go with a Grand Seiko. They're far better looking as a do-it-all watch and makes those Rolex models look cheap.
have my no date Sub for a year and a half now......didn´t wore it a lot the first year....but the last 6 months I am wearing it more and more....it´s like I needed more time to discover/appreciate the beauty of the watch......it´s in my top 3 of most worn watches now....together with my Black Bay GMT Pepsi and the IWC Mark XVIII Petit Prince
I wear my 16610 on a Nato and its invisible has been for over 32 years. The bracelet has never been worn and the watch head remains pristine because its not touching skin at any point. Its tritium dial has long past its usefulness but has left a parting gorgeous patina Oh, and still +2 per day on only one service back in 2000. I never take it off, only to correct the time every couple of weeks and then wash it under a warm tap with fairy liquid. I don't baby it at all, its not a bauble its a daily essential tool and dear companion to me. I can look back at countless pictures since 1991 and see this on my wrist. Its part of me . I would not swap it for anything and my teenage daughter will get it when I kick the bucket :).
I have owned a standard Submariner for over 4 decades and despite having owned other Rolex watches(including a white faced Daytona which u could hardly read the time on) it remains the all rounder for everything, it's all you'll ever need!
Beautiful watch for sure. However I always wonder how different high end watches would be viewed if all branding was removed. Rolex, Tudor, Omega, Breitling etc. all perform well but is the cost of the upkeep over the years really worth it in today's World? Is a Rolex Daytona worth three or four times that of a Tudor BB or is it very clever marketing from Rolex? All beautiful watches though.
Really enjoyed your take on this video. I love the way you described the Submariner as "a reward'. That's exactly how I feel about it. Will definitely be subscribing!
Get new sub. Even it state as 41 mm but there is video comparison between the 2 watches. There is not big difference in size but you get update movements with 70 hours reserve.
Excellent video! I’ve worn tool type wristwatches my entire life until recently. However, my father passed recently and I inherited 3 very nice watches that have changed my approach considerably: a vintage 18k gold Tudor Oyster Yorke (1958), an 18k Concord (1984), and a gold Chopard pocket watch. I now wear the Tudor instead of one of my beater watches most days, but I worry I’m going to break it. After a lot of research and contemplating the pros and cons, I have decided to buy a Rolex Submariner, and next week will pick it up from my jeweler. I can’t think of any other watch that ticks all the boxes for me… a daily wear watch that is fit for any dress occasion, tight enough to survive my often waterlogged outdoor pursuits, robust enough to withstand the constant pounding of my woodworking and shooting hobbies, and estherically pleasing enough to keep me smiling every time I look at it. A watch I can wear to my coffin, where my heirs can remove it from my wrist at the last and carry it forward in time for the next generation to enjoy. So, yes, I believe it will be the only watch I ever need from now on.
I am older watch guy - into them for over 50 years. I bought my Submariner new in 1990. Still have it - still wear it nearly every day (and always for boating and travel) Mine is the S.S. Date "16610" - 40 mil - slim and classic. Aluminum bezel. Comfy to wear - rugged, etc. I have a collection of other watches - but mostly wear the Sub (except for rare "dress" occasions, then I switch to my father's 1940 gold Hamilton Wilshire (think American made "Tank style" watch - smaller - better with suit.)
It is absolutely a great watch, iconic design. I've heard the flaws you've mentioned before, but also this is a watch that many find to be "devoid of personality", and will instead point to something with a bolder design like the Tudor Black Bay or Omega SpeedMaster
I would sooner wear a Reverso for diving than a Submariner to a formal occasion. I think there’s a lot better options if one wants to go for a “gada”… a AT or Explorer are good choices as some others have suggested.
This x1000. The Submariner is a very suboptimal choice for any outfit with a blazer/jacket. It just is. Agreed that the AT, Explorer and even the DateJust are far better all-around choices. Each of those can be dressed down far easier than a Sub can be dressed up. Pretty much the only thing those 3 can't be worn with is athletic wear, and I'd argue that you shouldn't really wear a watch with athletic wear anyway.
My perfectl watch would be my glashütte original seaq 39.5 in blue. Its a stunner and i love that vintage asthetic. That being said, I'd have to throw a g shock in the mix. Great video as always
Lovely reveiw, as a collector al the point of buying that "one" watch, and a fan of divers, im wondering if i could live with a subby. Many questions answered here. Next is, why a rolly instead of a tudor? They are both top of my list. Next is a doxa, but thats another story right.😊
I think you’ve highlighted the key reasons why I wouldn’t choose a Sub as a one watch collection. The price - it’s an expensive watch to buy and to be walking around with everyday and doing all daily tasks in, as you said this also means in certain places you’re painting a target on your back for opportunist muggers. My choice would be the Omega Seamaster, it’s a great watch, good price point, tough as nails, and isn’t target by thieving scum.
To me, on a contrary, the Sub is the perfect watch to wear on everyday basis. It goes with casual clothing as well as with more dressy. But, off course I live in Switzerland and mugging is very rare over here. I’ve been wearing Rolex watches since my first one in 1996 and never experience anything bad about it. None of my watches ever broke down, was serviced or was stolen 🤞🏻
Personally I find the Seamaster very esthetic on billboards and photos, however I don’t like it as much on my wrist. I don’t really know why? I do have a fairly wide wrist that could easily host such a watch. To me the magic doesn’t operate with this watch for some strange reason. I own a nice collection with a few Rolexes, an AP Royal Oak, à Blancpain Flyback big date, à Panerai Luminor Marina, Zénith El Primero, etc… but no Omegas. Unlike a lot of people I’m not so attracted by the Speedmaster and was in search to add an Omega to my collection and couldn’t find any. Perhaps the Aquaterra with the green dial?
I've owned no less than 8 Omegas from Constellations, Seamasters, Speedmasters, to Flightmasters & a few military ones. I sold them all. Got sick of the brand. It's all James Bond & Moon watch. Hate the marketing. I now have a collection of Rolex and JLCs.
I bought my sub date in 2004 in the Bahamas for about 5k US. It is a great watch and I wear it everyday, as such it gets pretty beat and scratched up but the good news is that when you send it for service they buff right out.
I own a Pepsi and just picked up a 124060 Submariner...and absolutely love it! Not sure if it's just the "honeymoon" phase or if the feeling is real. But this timepiece definitely checks all the boxes.
You are absolutely correct. It's is a perfect one and done ...but it does depend on your wrist size. I have a 20cm/8-inch wrist, so although I do have a Submariner, my go to watch is the Polar Explorer II - as it is more appropriate for my wrist at 42mm and with a broader bracelet. I also have the 43mm Sea Dweller, which looks like a big Submariner, so would be perfect - if it wasn't so thick and heavy. So, unless your have a girl wrist, or a big wrist like me, the Submariner is pretty perfect.
Yeah my flimsy 6 inch wrist can't really pull off the submariner. BB58 fits great though, so that's where I'm at right now. Looking to get an Air-King in the future possibly.
My one watch, or at least most worn watch is my Tudor black bay. I see the appeal of the everyday watch. Although that being said I swap my watches out all the time.
Nice and honest video. I have a Tag Heuer Aquaracer Quartz as my only watch for now. Everything else is out of budget. Well, technically the Tag was also out of budget since I am still paying for it :) I have always loved high-end watches and the Tag Aquaracer line in particular. I used to have a Longines Oposition but I gifted that to my son when he went to his first prom dance in high school. I bought that many, many years ago and it has remained in perfect shape, battery change after battery change. But I do want to get an automatic but oh boy after going down the UA-cam rabbit hole of watches I built my wish list. But I fear my lifetime won't be enough to complete. Although, if I had to choose, I would choose the Omega Seamaster 300 in blue/steel as my only watch. As you said, for me that is my ultimate goal, my watch to plan for to own "one day". I could stop collecting at that point but I still have a wish list. Not too long, though. The first in my list is the Omega, although likely I will get a low-cost Orient first. So the Orient on the list is the Mako 3 in red. The next one is a replacement for a Longines in my collection, and that would be the Longines Conquest "panda". Then, I do have to admit I have a thing for Tag design, as much as some purists don't like it. So I need an automatic Tag. That would be the orange dial/black bezel Aquaracer. Stunning watch. One thing about Tag the designs are so beautiful. I kept starting at mine for days after I bought it :) Last but not least on the list is a Rolex. I see it mostly as "if you are into collecting high-end watches, you need to have a Rolex". To me it's not the most desirable watch, that position goes to the Omega. If I ever am able to buy a Rolex, AFTER I have bought everything else on my list, I would get the latest version of the no-date Submariner. I don't like the cyclops at all and although the orange Tag does have a cyclops as well, it's very small and not bulky like the Submariner. Plus the orange is just so cool. Anyways, cheers!
Great review, No Date for me all day! love the continuity of the glass without a date complication! the new Explorer has a better Anti-Reflective coating, but I agree with you on the Submariner reflecting light & losing some clarity. The No Date 40mm pre 41mm demise just seems to have the perfect proportions for me.
OMEGA SEASMASTER 300 with the helium valve is what I would go for if I want a stainless steel everyday diver. I want a full yellow gold sub with black dial as my grail diver.
Hi great vid I like you have many watches but have always wanted a blank Sub. I managed to find a 2023 model for £12k which I pick up next week however I’m starting to feel that I’m paying way over the odds. The AD I’m with are not helpful any way
Thanks for posting. I would go with a GMT as my one and only watch for the rest of my life. I'm glad that I don't have to make that decision right now!!
First time stumbling across one of your videos… i like it. But last week i just got the 2023 Rolex 124060 Submariner (no date for those who do not know reference numbers) and i had some other watches on my radar for the future and it really is the perfect watch. I think I’ll save the money for the others that were on the list and wait AWHILE till I make another purchase. Fits me perfectly, looks amazing dressed up or with shorts and a t shirt. Im a lucky man
I love my 124060 Submariner, the one without the date. It does get wrist time but as you mention I tend to think about where I'm going a little more before wearing it. And that's the reason I couldn't have a one watch collection consisting of the Sub. It's a terrific watch and that bezel action is sublime. On those occasions where I'm unsure about wearing the Sub I have alternatives like the Tudor BB58 that is almost as dressy for a dive watch. Personally for a non diver one watch collection I'd be looking at the Omega Constellation Globemaster from 2016 with the pie pan blue dial on the strap. It's water resistant to 100M when new, slim, accurate METAS standard although not as good as the stated Rolex Superlative Chronometer standard. It flies under the radar of most people including many watch nerds. I still love the classic Submariner though.
I bought my Submariner many moons ago. Just walked into the shop, paid £1100 and walked out with a brand spanking new watch. I then gave it to my son for his 21st. I now have an Omega AT quartz. Tag Carrera and a Seiko GS quartz. My replacement for the Submariner is a Davosa Ternos Ceramic. I work with my son everybody thinks we both have a Rolex Submariner. The Davosa is nice watch and when adjusted properly keep really good time. I know what you mean about wearing it out though. A rep who comes to us has a Submariner GMT, he paid £10,000 for it. A mate of his got he's nicked abroad and he doesn't wear his out any more. The watch was insured, he got a new one and then sold it. It's sad when you can't wear something you want to for fear of getting robbed.
I have the Bluesy Ceramic Sub as a 1 watch collection. I like color and a little flash so for me it works . 116613LB with Gold Script and 3135 Caliber… Sub all the way as a 1 watch collection…. Nice video
My submariner is now 27 years old. It’s the stainless and 18k model with date. Every so often I take to my local watchmaker for a thorough cleaning. I have worn it continuously 24/7 for 27 years. All parts are original except of course for appropriate gaskets. I never have it polished and only give it a light rub with a polishing cloth. It has aged a bit but then has stayed about the same for many years. It has never been immersed in water yet I wear to garden and wash my hands. The immensely strong bracelet has never stretched and the patina of the stainless and 18K is still striking as ever. The time keeping is so impressive as to be mythical for a mechanical watch of this modest price. I set it four months ago and it has lost 30 seconds. Less than a third of a second a day. For a 27 year old 24/7 watch. I did get my moneys worth. I think $375 for the most recent service was well worth it.
I recently picked up a Rolex submariner date at my local AD. Love the watch. It’s my first luxury watch and I will never sell it. That being said, I would like to have a touch of color. So I’m looking at getting a GMT down the road.
I have worn my GMT Master II every day for the past 11 years and I am giving it a bit of a rest - taking out for vacations and special occasions (my wife and I will likely send our watches in for a full service - not needed) but to make them look new again. The GMT is an unbelievable watch, I am on the “list” for a Sub and will get one or two sooner or later. Right now I am enjoying some lesser watches just for fun and variety - Seiko, Citizen, Phoibos, even a couple of San Martin and Steeldives but nothing is a Rolex - I also enjoy my Seamaster… in a few years I will have these beater variety watches but the core and the heart of my collection will always be my beloved GMT Master II and the Sub I eventually get. The Sub is an awesome watch, it’s the most copied, covered and durable watch that retains or gains value, it’s perfect for a 1 watch collection, it’s the Icon.
This is exactly why I'm so excited about the Tudor BB54 right now. It gives me that vintage feel (I like smaller watches even though I don't have small wrists), it's sturdy and durable (I assume!) and actually reasonably affordable compared to the sub (especially on the secondary market)...I know it's a bit of a boring choice, but my favourite flavour of ice cream is vanilla, and I like "boring"...you can also call it "classic" p.s. if Rolex released a vintage diver with the same dimensions as the Black Bay, THAT would a watch I would put all the effort into getting
BB58 owner here. I can confirm the sturdiness and durability of the Tudor. The watch gets me a lot of compliments from watch enthusiasts (mainly from Rolex owners, surprisingly) and goes nicely under the radar with the rest of the population, which makes it ideal for an everyday business setting.
I started off my 1 watch collection with a Tag Aquaracer about 15 years ago - Since then - I've accumulated 2 Tudors (GMT & Reverse Panda) and 2 Rolex (explorer 2 and a DJ41) in the search for my 1 watch 😂 - Today I collected my Tudor GMT from Beaverbrooks in Chester after the date issue was repaired under warranty - whilst walking from the car I passed Mappin & Webb and had a look in the window - There was a couple of S&G Datejust models and to my disbelief a Submariner Date - on closer inspection I was shocked to notice they all had the correct time and were actually working genuine pieces - this took me inside where I asked if I could be cheeky and try the Sub on. Turns out the guy who served me was the same guy who sold me my DJ41 at the Liverpool branch of Goldsmith's - the Goldsmith's in Liverpool is closed for refurb so he was telling me that they are working out of the Chester branch of Mappin & Webb all being part of the WOS Group - Anyways - after a good chat about watches and falling in love with the Sub - I'm now on the list for one - Will it be the one ? I really think it could be 😂
Yep agree. This or a GMT master or Exp 2. I have this plus a Speedy 3861 and love them both. This for work though as I like having the date and Speedy more for dress....... Side note, the Sub is most accurate out of all my watches.
Many dive watches of reasonable size would make a perfect one watch collection. For many it is the Submariner, for others it is a Seiko diver or the Blancpain FF, for my dad it's the black Planet Ocean, for my mum it's the mid size sword hand style SMP, for me it is the blue SMP 300. As long as the diver is not that huge and doesn't come with too flashy colors you might be able to combine it with any style you like.
how about the Seiko 5 GMT series... OR... Seiko Flightmaster .... the true 1 watch collections.. i need to have at least 2 timezones and reliable.. and to be honest i woudl even argue that the Longines Master Collection Triple Date Moonphase could also be a perfect one watch collection... without painting a target on my back! not to mention .. they are all available ;)
I walked in to a AD to look at their Grand Seikos but they didn't have any with a black dial. They had a 126610 just put on display for $9600. Paid $10k cash (extra $200ea for the sales reps) same day.
Following the "watch community" for some time now and must say that this is the most controversial watch ever. From my perspective, the biggest issue with this watch is not the mark-ups, wait lists, price, etc. but the "burden" of marking yourself as a target, either in the face of criminals, or in the face of judgmental people. If you put those things aside and try to look at this from a brand/product perspective, this is by far the best watch you can have. First, it comes from a brand that has clear and defined product catalog, structured service centers, good warranty setup, etc. Secondly, one could hardly contest the way this watch looks and feels. Thirdly, the movement inside is great, and you may be sure that this product will last for a long time. If cars were an analogy, same goes for BMW, a great product, from a great brand, but also the favorite car of somewhat sketchy people :). Thank you for your content.
I bought a Sea Dweller 4000 for $1400 in 1982 then traded it plus $100 on a new 16610 Sub in 1993 because the additional thickness of Sea Dweller was wrecking my trouser pockets. My Sub will continue to be the perfect everyday watch if I can new get hands with better lume. Unfortunately the replacement hands fitted at my last service in 2019 were already dull. Currently I wear a newer Speedmaster at night because of the Subs unacceptable lume. I love my Sub!
Ok. My thoughts. I live near the Mississippi River and the Gulf of Mexico. Average rainfall here is…amazing. I wash my hands 30+ times daily. I take my watch off 10 times daily. We have a swimming pool. So what is my 1 watch for my 20cm wrist? A second gen 43mm gray dial Aqua Terra. On shark skin part of the year and on an Uncle beads of rice the rest of the year. Bought second hand 3 years ago for $3500 on EBay. Can wear it truly anywhere. New Orleans French Quarter after dark. Memphis. The Bronx on the subway. Subtle in the extreme. But whenever I sit down with a group of medical students I get “Oh wow! It’s an Omega! “. Am headed to Germany in a few weeks. What will I wear? The Aqua Terra. What will I take along? Tudor GMT root beer and Rolex Datejust 41 black dial fluted Jubilee. Less subtle good for conversation in formal circles and when teaching. All great choices. But I cannot do without my AT!
I own a 2017 Rolex sub mariner date, IWC 5004 transitional Big Pilot 46mm, Panerai 1104 44mm and a IWC top gun 45mm…..I love the sub, but I enjoy the larger watches.
I own 124060. No cyclops for me, thank you very much, this is a Sub not a GMT Master. Anyway, dunked mine in all kinds of washing mixtures unintentionally when I washed my car Banged him here and there on door frames Wore him in cold and hot conditions. Got him wet numerous times. Still keeps a great time, doing fine.
I think if I got rid of all of my watches and kept just one... it would be my Rhodium dial 39mm OP. Departures include the Submariner, Speedmaster, and Santos all pretty good alternatives.
Seems there's some confusion about the one watch lifestyle. The 124060 is my only watch. I put it on in the morning, it comes off when I get into bed. No matter what I'm doing, or where I'm going. I'm not precious about the watch, I'm a farmer and wear doing every single task on the farm, it's been places you can't even imagine. People often forget these were military watches. They're tough as nails. One watch means you have to let go of your fears about something happening to the watch. It's liberating. Of course, if it's a large financial investment for you, it's likely you won't be able to fully embrace truly owning just one watch.
I first noticed the Rolex Submariner in 1962 when I moved to Switzerland as a teenager. Later, when I got out of college I was able purchase a 1966 5512 4 line chronograph. It's been on my wrist ever since. Personally, I have never been attracted to any of the later versions. Dates, gold, gold/steel, diamonds forget it. The 5512 & 5513 are to me THE classic Submariner design. Furthermore, I don't need James Bond or Steve McQueen to convince me it is the most important watch design ever.
I agree. 99.9 percent of salesmen are just trying to feed their families. I live in a larger Midwest City, and I literally have seen only one other Sub in all of my travels. These channels get a little carried away saying that everyone and their dog wears a $5k, $10k, $15k, $20k.... watch. Insane.
I don’t have a sub. My go to watch is a Batman. But like you said, I think before I wear it. I recently went to Atlanta - the crime capital of the southern US, and wore my Speedy instead of the Batman. Id rather lose the Speedy than the Batman. I do like the Sub however and might pick one up at some point. It is iconic.
I own this watch since 1998. Bought it at my Rolex dealer in Montreal for 3700 CAD, which was a 8% discount to retail. Yes, back then, you could walk in to an AD and get it below retail on any day. Its a tank, and a great watch. But, if you are buying it now, at above retail there are way better options. Look at the Glashutte Original Seaq. Much better watch for the money. My point is its a great watch but not worth over 10k.
The Submariner has the most iconic design, king of cool 🤴
Most iconic? You mean most copyed…
Bought my 5513 Submariner in Vietnam and it’s been on my wrist to this day. It’s part of me and will go to my grandson one of these days. I just hope he wears it like I did and passes it down to his son. It is the most iconic of all watches. You can’t put a price on it.
fake?
Have you ever serviced it?
my father traded the ak47 he brought back from vietnam (despite it being against regulations) and since I can remember , I have wanted one. He ended up trading his for a colt naval revolver that turned out to be a fugeza, lots of lessons in that story, I finally got my own a couple of weeks ago
@@litan114You obviously think so but it’s the real deal. It’s been serviced a few times and don’t you think it would have showed up during service? This watch has lasted well over 50 yrs and still keeps good time. Yeah it’s fake dude just like you.
@@folksurvivalSeveral times over the yrs. Be prepared to pay around $800.
Got the latest model last year and am still in awe when I look at it! The perfect, iconic watch.
dont lie lar
Excellent video.
Yore the first UA-camr who (like me) loves a date on their watch, yet acknowledges that the cyclops only works when viewed straight on.
It’s still a great feature, but glare from lighting and the bubble itself make legibility of the date often difficult.
I bought one as an impulse buy just after I got divorced about 20 years ago and had about 3k to my name so I blew that on a Submariner. It's brilliant, I spent 8 years or so working in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq and rarely took it off. It is currently getting (rather expensively) serviced so currently I don't know the time as it's my only watch. Looking forward to getting it back. PS Thanks to this really interesting video I learnt that it was introduced in 1953 - just like me.
Not sure whats smarter, buying the watch or getting divorced
Buy a Hamilton Khaki field watch. I wear it far more often than many much more expensive watches. And you'll always have the time.
Good way to celebrate your freedom. ❤
I have been in the world of watches for a few years, and like most, I got fixated with different brands and different models over the years, but in the end I go full circle and the submariner shines through the noise. The downside is the AD experience, that can vary greatly depending on your location, and getting robbed.
I can confirm it is a perfect one watch collection. I bought my Submariner in 1994 and was my only watch until around 2012-13 when I started getting some other watches. It did everything from wearing with a suit at work to nights out on the lash in my youth to travels abroad.
That’s exactly why this watch is amazing 👍🏻
You probably shouldn't be doing that these days...times, so to speak, have changed.
I have worn Submariners since 1975 and I agree with your analysis.
I own the No-Date model 114060 from 2010 because I prefer the symmetry and don’t like the cyclops that much. I think it is one of the most wearable and versatile watches out there and I’ve rarely worn watches that are more comfortable on the wrist.
Supercase design was horrible.
Im also a proud owner of 114060, this watch is a master piece, built like a tank and the only one in my collection, from wearimg shorts, gym, tennis and three piece suits, this watch does it all, expensive but will hold the value
Love the 114060. Not a fan of the skinny lugs on the present iteration.
Sold my early 90s Sub and was able to buy 2 new Tudors (BB Chrono and Pelagos 42) as replacements. I don't regret it (yet) as I feel the modern Tudors are of equal or better quality and less common (and less copied) than a Sub.
EX1 as a 1 watch and done. Understated, sporty, can dress up or down and not worn by every second flog chef on tv.
I have the sub and Explorer. Definitely prefer the Explorer.
I replaced a Submariner with an Explorer 1 have never regretted it. Just works better dressed up for me
Rolex Sub Date - often referred to as the one and done. Am also of the opinion that this is correct.
Though - I’ve yet to find a man whom has executed this “one and done” strategy.
I haven't met one but I've heard of many.
I’d argue that one watch is not a collection, one watch is a watch.
yes but if that one watch is worn while the rest of the wearer's watches sit, it makes sense.
Although I like the submariner I find there’s just too many around and seems to be the automatic choice for people who aren’t watch enthusiasts. I recently got a SD43 with the mark 1 dial which I love but have been tempted towards a sub as it’s more wearable but I stayed loyal and now wear the SD43 on a Rubber B which it more comfortable and under the radar…, if I want I can always put the bracelet back on if the occasion arises, that is now my 1 watch collection 👍🏻 Great video Andy keep up the good work mate 👌🏻
Nice one! Personally, I'd go DJ, OP or Explorer as a 1 watch GADA. Unless you dive, they do it all. I think the modern 6 digit Subs have got a bit unrefined in an effort to look toolish. Also, I just don't find them comfortable. Yes, they're better made than a 5 digit, but not as versatile or comfortable. A 5 digit did me 20 years 24/7 as a diver, marine biologist and then forester. 6 digit with a suit? I've got one and I wouldn't! Beyond Rolex, I think the Speedy is more day-to-day versatile unless you do watersports or marine work.
Yes 5 digit submariner definitely + 1 speedmaster professional. Solved!🎉
I don’t know if I could settle on just one watch. However, the Submariner plus a Cartier Tank would likely suffice for a two watch collection for me. Everyone is different though. I would be interested in hearing about different individual ideas for a two watch collection.
Explorer 114270 and jlc moonphase
My 124060 and McQ Monaco
Great video. 👍🇬🇧 I have a 41mm No Date and it is a keeper. My grail is the GMT II Rolesor which doesn’t get much wrist time as it’s too blingy and a scratch magnet. The Sub is perfect for me… an icon.
I have a 50th Anniversary Sea Dweller that I managed to get retail last year. Perfect for my 7.5” wrists. It wears that little bigger than a sub but on my wrists no one would notice the difference. I love it. Like the submariner It would be my only watch if only I didn’t feel vulnerable wearing it these days. So always careful to cover it when out in the UK. I will never sell it but its a shame that it doesn’t get the wrist time I want to give it. So will have to continue to use my original Omega Seamaster 300m (Pierce Brosnan version) and Seiko Proplex King Turtle Diver for most of the time.
Sea Dweller is another dimension.
If I have to pick one, it would be Sea Dweller over Submariner.
Such a tough question b/c so much depends on the individual’s life and lifestyle. If you’re retired, daily wear is dress casual, and you’re frequently at the pool, then I can absolutely see a sub (although I prefer the sub vs the date sub) checking 90% of the boxes. If you’re in a suit&tie every day but still want the option of taking it to the pool, I think a DJ, VC 222, or Omega AT checks those same boxes better. Suit&tie every day and no need for water resistance? The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper.
Andy, the quality of your videos is really coming along nicely. Appreciate the improvements you've made to lighting and sound over the past few months. Feel your subscriber count is about to go on a hockey-stick climb! Nice work
Thanks Christopher. Appreciate the feedback.
I just picked up the GMT Master II all black 116710LN and find it to be an absolutely perfect daily wear, one watch collection. The subtle difference of having polished bracelet center links and a GMT function steps it up a notch over the submariner, for travel and more formal occasions.
Although, I'm admittedly bias.
Personally, I feel the Omega AT is a better option as a one watch to do everything instead of a dive watch. The AT is a true swiss Army knife and can be dressed up and down. The AT is also 50% cheaper than the Sub and attainable.
I agree. And if I didn’t already have the Sub, the AT would be the one.
Finally…a commenter with a shred of sense.
He only thing holdi the AT back is the lack of on the fly adjustment. If Omega fixes that (which they could do instantly), the AT would be perfection.
Werd
Bingo
If only they were available to buy at retail
I got offered one last week, it is possible
i got mine last year no hassels or history just go in be yourself it can happen
They're close now, it's almost not worth arguing about. We're talking hundreds not thousands.
And these are sources anyone can drop in and buy
literally this watch and the explorer should be available all the time. Rolex should make them more and give a chance for anyone who wants one to have it
They are, just not to every guy who walks in speculating. And rightly so.
❤lovely collection you have there. If I had to live with just one watch it would be the Rolex datejust 36mm siver dial smooth bezel on Oyster bracelet or the Omega Aquaterra
Nice video and I pretty much agree. The sub is just so perfect that all they can do is tweak it here and there. Kind of like a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. It just works.
I don’t know if that analogy correlates…. Unless the Toyota and Honda are priced at $100k
The modern sub is an amazing watch for so many occasions. The only thing is that I feel it doesn’t wear that well and is a little more bulky under the cuff compared to an OP or Explorer 1 which is my preferred one watch collection
Shoot, if you're going for either an OP or an Explorer 1, may as well go with a Grand Seiko. They're far better looking as a do-it-all watch and makes those Rolex models look cheap.
have my no date Sub for a year and a half now......didn´t wore it a lot the first year....but the last 6 months I am wearing it more and more....it´s like I needed more time to discover/appreciate the beauty of the watch......it´s in my top 3 of most worn watches now....together with my Black Bay GMT Pepsi and the IWC Mark XVIII Petit Prince
I wear my 16610 on a Nato and its invisible has been for over 32 years. The bracelet has never been worn and the watch head remains pristine because its not touching skin at any point. Its tritium dial has long past its usefulness but has left a parting gorgeous patina Oh, and still +2 per day on only one service back in 2000. I never take it off, only to correct the time every couple of weeks and then wash it under a warm tap with fairy liquid. I don't baby it at all, its not a bauble its a daily essential tool and dear companion to me. I can look back at countless pictures since 1991 and see this on my wrist. Its part of me . I would not swap it for anything and my teenage daughter will get it when I kick the bucket :).
new subscriber! great, thorough, honest, and level-headed video. looking forward to more.
I have owned a standard Submariner for over 4 decades and despite having owned other Rolex watches(including a white faced Daytona which u could hardly read the time on) it remains the all rounder for everything, it's all you'll ever need!
Beautiful watch for sure. However I always wonder how different high end watches would be viewed if all branding was removed. Rolex, Tudor, Omega, Breitling etc. all perform well but is the cost of the upkeep over the years really worth it in today's World? Is a Rolex Daytona worth three or four times that of a Tudor BB or is it very clever marketing from Rolex? All beautiful watches though.
Really enjoyed your take on this video. I love the way you described the Submariner as "a reward'. That's exactly how I feel about it. Will definitely be subscribing!
Just tried on a current 41mm Sub today. Do you have any thoughts on the comparison between the 40mm and 41mm generation?
I prefer the older slimmer bracelet. But I’ve got slimmer wrists. There’s nothing in it really.
Get new sub. Even it state as 41 mm but there is video comparison between the 2 watches. There is not big difference in size but you get update movements with 70 hours reserve.
Is the submariner a good investment case? Time horizon is mid to long term before selling.
Excellent video! I’ve worn tool type wristwatches my entire life until recently. However, my father passed recently and I inherited 3 very nice watches that have changed my approach considerably: a vintage 18k gold Tudor Oyster Yorke (1958), an 18k Concord (1984), and a gold Chopard pocket watch. I now wear the Tudor instead of one of my beater watches most days, but I worry I’m going to break it. After a lot of research and contemplating the pros and cons, I have decided to buy a Rolex Submariner, and next week will pick it up from my jeweler. I can’t think of any other watch that ticks all the boxes for me… a daily wear watch that is fit for any dress occasion, tight enough to survive my often waterlogged outdoor pursuits, robust enough to withstand the constant pounding of my woodworking and shooting hobbies, and estherically pleasing enough to keep me smiling every time I look at it. A watch I can wear to my coffin, where my heirs can remove it from my wrist at the last and carry it forward in time for the next generation to enjoy. So, yes, I believe it will be the only watch I ever need from now on.
Great watch!
The DJ is probably the ideal one watch however.
I am older watch guy - into them for over 50 years. I bought my Submariner new in 1990. Still have it - still wear it nearly every day (and always for boating and travel) Mine is the S.S. Date "16610" - 40 mil - slim and classic. Aluminum bezel. Comfy to wear - rugged, etc. I have a collection of other watches - but mostly wear the Sub (except for rare "dress" occasions, then I switch to my father's 1940 gold Hamilton Wilshire (think American made "Tank style" watch - smaller - better with suit.)
Nice to stumble upon your channel. I enjoyed this discussion very much and look forward to following you.
There’s a 2016 non date submariner selling at my jewellers (pre owned) for £8,995. Is this a good deal?
Yes, if from an AD and watch coming with full set and serviced by Rolex with 2-year NFT warranty card.
I think a Datejust or AT would be better as a one watch collection. The Sub is an absolute classic though
It is absolutely a great watch, iconic design. I've heard the flaws you've mentioned before, but also this is a watch that many find to be "devoid of personality", and will instead point to something with a bolder design like the Tudor Black Bay or Omega SpeedMaster
Great review! I do have to say that Black Bay 58 sits much better on the wrist and so does a seamaster, due to mostly flat caseback.
I would sooner wear a Reverso for diving than a Submariner to a formal occasion. I think there’s a lot better options if one wants to go for a “gada”… a AT or Explorer are good choices as some others have suggested.
the sub is painfully an obvious GADA watch for the sheepeople
Sheepeople?
This x1000. The Submariner is a very suboptimal choice for any outfit with a blazer/jacket. It just is. Agreed that the AT, Explorer and even the DateJust are far better all-around choices. Each of those can be dressed down far easier than a Sub can be dressed up. Pretty much the only thing those 3 can't be worn with is athletic wear, and I'd argue that you shouldn't really wear a watch with athletic wear anyway.
My perfectl watch would be my glashütte original seaq 39.5 in blue. Its a stunner and i love that vintage asthetic. That being said, I'd have to throw a g shock in the mix. Great video as always
Rolex Submariner is perhaps the finest watch in the history of Horology. I am in awe of how truly great Rolex watches are. Thor watches have no equal.
Just got mine at mayors of Tampa. Was on waiting list forever but they finally called. Date version
Lovely reveiw, as a collector al the point of buying that "one" watch, and a fan of divers, im wondering if i could live with a subby. Many questions answered here. Next is, why a rolly instead of a tudor? They are both top of my list. Next is a doxa, but thats another story right.😊
I think you’ve highlighted the key reasons why I wouldn’t choose a Sub as a one watch collection. The price - it’s an expensive watch to buy and to be walking around with everyday and doing all daily tasks in, as you said this also means in certain places you’re painting a target on your back for opportunist muggers. My choice would be the Omega Seamaster, it’s a great watch, good price point, tough as nails, and isn’t target by thieving scum.
To me, on a contrary, the Sub is the perfect watch to wear on everyday basis. It goes with casual clothing as well as with more dressy. But, off course I live in Switzerland and mugging is very rare over here. I’ve been wearing Rolex watches since my first one in 1996 and never experience anything bad about it. None of my watches ever broke down, was serviced or was stolen 🤞🏻
Personally I find the Seamaster very esthetic on billboards and photos, however I don’t like it as much on my wrist. I don’t really know why? I do have a fairly wide wrist that could easily host such a watch. To me the magic doesn’t operate with this watch for some strange reason. I own a nice collection with a few Rolexes, an AP Royal Oak, à Blancpain Flyback big date, à Panerai Luminor Marina, Zénith El Primero, etc… but no Omegas. Unlike a lot of people I’m not so attracted by the Speedmaster and was in search to add an Omega to my collection and couldn’t find any. Perhaps the Aquaterra with the green dial?
I've owned no less than 8 Omegas from Constellations, Seamasters, Speedmasters, to Flightmasters & a few military ones. I sold them all. Got sick of the brand. It's all James Bond & Moon watch. Hate the marketing. I now have a collection of Rolex and JLCs.
@@terryl7749 excellent choice my friend
Because nobody wants it, even criminals.
I bought my sub date in 2004 in the Bahamas for about 5k US. It is a great watch and I wear it everyday, as such it gets pretty beat and scratched up but the good news is that when you send it for service they buff right out.
Absolutely right! I had my 16610 for 10 years as my only watch. Now I have 10 Rolexes. Better sell some. Really enjoy your videos.
Agreed always go to the sub no date, it’s perfect
I own a Pepsi and just picked up a 124060 Submariner...and absolutely love it! Not sure if it's just the "honeymoon" phase or if the feeling is real. But this timepiece definitely checks all the boxes.
nice review andy to me its definately a one watch and done ..its a true legend
I think it’s best watch ever, I have both the aluminum 16610 and the ceramic 126040, I would keep the no date
You are absolutely correct. It's is a perfect one and done ...but it does depend on your wrist size.
I have a 20cm/8-inch wrist, so although I do have a Submariner, my go to watch is the Polar Explorer II - as it is more appropriate for my wrist at 42mm and with a broader bracelet.
I also have the 43mm Sea Dweller, which looks like a big Submariner, so would be perfect - if it wasn't so thick and heavy.
So, unless your have a girl wrist, or a big wrist like me, the Submariner is pretty perfect.
Yeah my flimsy 6 inch wrist can't really pull off the submariner. BB58 fits great though, so that's where I'm at right now. Looking to get an Air-King in the future possibly.
@@OneLordeAnimeClips 40mm Airking will look way too big on a 6inch wrist.
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Tried it on the other day, you're right. Might just go with a 36mm explorer. Similar aesthetic, and much better fit.
a very well rounded and honest look!
My one watch, or at least most worn watch is my Tudor black bay. I see the appeal of the everyday watch. Although that being said I swap my watches out all the time.
Nice and honest video. I have a Tag Heuer Aquaracer Quartz as my only watch for now. Everything else is out of budget. Well, technically the Tag was also out of budget since I am still paying for it :) I have always loved high-end watches and the Tag Aquaracer line in particular. I used to have a Longines Oposition but I gifted that to my son when he went to his first prom dance in high school. I bought that many, many years ago and it has remained in perfect shape, battery change after battery change. But I do want to get an automatic but oh boy after going down the UA-cam rabbit hole of watches I built my wish list. But I fear my lifetime won't be enough to complete. Although, if I had to choose, I would choose the Omega Seamaster 300 in blue/steel as my only watch. As you said, for me that is my ultimate goal, my watch to plan for to own "one day". I could stop collecting at that point but I still have a wish list. Not too long, though. The first in my list is the Omega, although likely I will get a low-cost Orient first. So the Orient on the list is the Mako 3 in red. The next one is a replacement for a Longines in my collection, and that would be the Longines Conquest "panda". Then, I do have to admit I have a thing for Tag design, as much as some purists don't like it. So I need an automatic Tag. That would be the orange dial/black bezel Aquaracer. Stunning watch. One thing about Tag the designs are so beautiful. I kept starting at mine for days after I bought it :) Last but not least on the list is a Rolex. I see it mostly as "if you are into collecting high-end watches, you need to have a Rolex". To me it's not the most desirable watch, that position goes to the Omega. If I ever am able to buy a Rolex, AFTER I have bought everything else on my list, I would get the latest version of the no-date Submariner. I don't like the cyclops at all and although the orange Tag does have a cyclops as well, it's very small and not bulky like the Submariner. Plus the orange is just so cool. Anyways, cheers!
Great review, No Date for me all day! love the continuity of the glass without a date complication! the new Explorer has a better Anti-Reflective coating, but I agree with you on the Submariner reflecting light & losing some clarity. The No Date 40mm pre 41mm demise just seems to have the perfect proportions for me.
OMEGA SEASMASTER 300 with the helium valve is what I would go for if I want a stainless steel everyday diver. I want a full yellow gold sub with black dial as my grail diver.
Thanks Andy, your Sub’ is a beautiful piece, enjoy it, keep well fella 👍
Hi great vid I like you have many watches but have always wanted a blank Sub. I managed to find a 2023 model for £12k which I pick up next week however I’m starting to feel that I’m paying way over the odds. The AD I’m with are not helpful any way
Thanks for posting. I would go with a GMT as my one and only watch for the rest of my life. I'm glad that I don't have to make that decision right now!!
First time stumbling across one of your videos… i like it. But last week i just got the 2023 Rolex 124060 Submariner (no date for those who do not know reference numbers) and i had some other watches on my radar for the future and it really is the perfect watch. I think I’ll save the money for the others that were on the list and wait AWHILE till I make another purchase. Fits me perfectly, looks amazing dressed up or with shorts and a t shirt. Im a lucky man
I love my 124060 Submariner, the one without the date. It does get wrist time but as you mention I tend to think about where I'm going a little more before wearing it. And that's the reason I couldn't have a one watch collection consisting of the Sub. It's a terrific watch and that bezel action is sublime. On those occasions where I'm unsure about wearing the Sub I have alternatives like the Tudor BB58 that is almost as dressy for a dive watch. Personally for a non diver one watch collection I'd be looking at the Omega Constellation Globemaster from 2016 with the pie pan blue dial on the strap. It's water resistant to 100M when new, slim, accurate METAS standard although not as good as the stated Rolex Superlative Chronometer standard. It flies under the radar of most people including many watch nerds. I still love the classic Submariner though.
Great option. Love the Globemaster.
I bought my Submariner many moons ago. Just walked into the shop, paid £1100 and walked out with a brand spanking new watch. I then gave it to my son for his 21st.
I now have an Omega AT quartz. Tag Carrera and a Seiko GS quartz. My replacement for the Submariner is a Davosa Ternos Ceramic. I work with my son everybody thinks we both have a Rolex Submariner. The Davosa is nice watch and when adjusted properly keep really good time. I know what you mean about wearing it out though. A rep who comes to us has a Submariner GMT, he paid £10,000 for it. A mate of his got he's nicked abroad
and he doesn't wear his out any more. The watch was insured, he got a new one and then sold it. It's sad when you can't wear something you want to for fear of getting robbed.
I have the Bluesy Ceramic Sub as a 1 watch collection. I like color and a little flash so for me it works .
116613LB with Gold Script and 3135 Caliber… Sub all the way as a 1 watch collection…. Nice video
Those submariners are just stunning
My submariner is now 27 years old. It’s the stainless and 18k model with date. Every so often I take to my local watchmaker for a thorough cleaning. I have worn it continuously 24/7 for 27 years. All parts are original except of course for appropriate gaskets. I never have it polished and only give it a light rub with a polishing cloth. It has aged a bit but then has stayed about the same for many years. It has never been immersed in water yet I wear to garden and wash my hands. The immensely strong bracelet has never stretched and the patina of the stainless and 18K is still striking as ever. The time keeping is so impressive as to be mythical for a mechanical watch of this modest price. I set it four months ago and it has lost 30 seconds. Less than a third of a second a day. For a 27 year old 24/7 watch. I did get my moneys worth. I think $375 for the most recent service was well worth it.
I recently picked up a Rolex submariner date at my local AD. Love the watch. It’s my first luxury watch and I will never sell it. That being said, I would like to have a touch of color. So I’m looking at getting a GMT down the road.
can you buy a sub straight from a AD with no purchase history in most of the USA?
I have worn my GMT Master II every day for the past 11 years and I am giving it a bit of a rest - taking out for vacations and special occasions (my wife and I will likely send our watches in for a full service - not needed) but to make them look new again. The GMT is an unbelievable watch, I am on the “list” for a Sub and will get one or two sooner or later. Right now I am enjoying some lesser watches just for fun and variety - Seiko, Citizen, Phoibos, even a couple of San Martin and Steeldives but nothing is a Rolex - I also enjoy my Seamaster… in a few years I will have these beater variety watches but the core and the heart of my collection will always be my beloved GMT Master II and the Sub I eventually get. The Sub is an awesome watch, it’s the most copied, covered and durable watch that retains or gains value, it’s perfect for a 1 watch collection, it’s the Icon.
This is exactly why I'm so excited about the Tudor BB54 right now. It gives me that vintage feel (I like smaller watches even though I don't have small wrists), it's sturdy and durable (I assume!) and actually reasonably affordable compared to the sub (especially on the secondary market)...I know it's a bit of a boring choice, but my favourite flavour of ice cream is vanilla, and I like "boring"...you can also call it "classic"
p.s. if Rolex released a vintage diver with the same dimensions as the Black Bay, THAT would a watch I would put all the effort into getting
Nothing wrong with boring.
BB58 owner here. I can confirm the sturdiness and durability of the Tudor. The watch gets me a lot of compliments from watch enthusiasts (mainly from Rolex owners, surprisingly) and goes nicely under the radar with the rest of the population, which makes it ideal for an everyday business setting.
@@tomastoth9651 thank you so much...I think they are great options
The new model Rolex Air king is my favourite, some hate on them but for me it’s the one I like the most of all the professional models
They’ll love it when that style is discontinued lol
My 41mm on my 6.5” wrist wears big, it works but I wish its 39-40mm
I have the 116710BLNR & 226570 Polar. Always been wanting a Submariner Date, but contemplating between 126610LV and 126610LN 🤔
Sea Dweller 16600, perfect watch.
question is.... how to get a new one ? Waiting times are ridiculous..
I started off my 1 watch collection with a Tag Aquaracer about 15 years ago - Since then - I've accumulated 2 Tudors (GMT & Reverse Panda) and 2 Rolex (explorer 2 and a DJ41) in the search for my 1 watch 😂 - Today I collected my Tudor GMT from Beaverbrooks in Chester after the date issue was repaired under warranty - whilst walking from the car I passed Mappin & Webb and had a look in the window - There was a couple of S&G Datejust models and to my disbelief a Submariner Date - on closer inspection I was shocked to notice they all had the correct time and were actually working genuine pieces - this took me inside where I asked if I could be cheeky and try the Sub on. Turns out the guy who served me was the same guy who sold me my DJ41 at the Liverpool branch of Goldsmith's - the Goldsmith's in Liverpool is closed for refurb so he was telling me that they are working out of the Chester branch of Mappin & Webb all being part of the WOS Group - Anyways - after a good chat about watches and falling in love with the Sub - I'm now on the list for one - Will it be the one ? I really think it could be 😂
Yep agree. This or a GMT master or Exp 2. I have this plus a Speedy 3861 and love them both. This for work though as I like having the date and Speedy more for dress.......
Side note, the Sub is most accurate out of all my watches.
Many dive watches of reasonable size would make a perfect one watch collection. For many it is the Submariner, for others it is a Seiko diver or the Blancpain FF, for my dad it's the black Planet Ocean, for my mum it's the mid size sword hand style SMP, for me it is the blue SMP 300. As long as the diver is not that huge and doesn't come with too flashy colors you might be able to combine it with any style you like.
It can be.
However, after you pass more or less other watch brands and then you come back to "roots".
how about the Seiko 5 GMT series... OR... Seiko Flightmaster .... the true 1 watch collections.. i need to have at least 2 timezones and reliable.. and to be honest i woudl even argue that the Longines Master Collection Triple Date Moonphase could also be a perfect one watch collection... without painting a target on my back! not to mention .. they are all available ;)
I walked in to a AD to look at their Grand Seikos but they didn't have any with a black dial. They had a 126610 just put on display for $9600. Paid $10k cash (extra $200ea for the sales reps) same day.
Following the "watch community" for some time now and must say that this is the most controversial watch ever. From my perspective, the biggest issue with this watch is not the mark-ups, wait lists, price, etc. but the "burden" of marking yourself as a target, either in the face of criminals, or in the face of judgmental people. If you put those things aside and try to look at this from a brand/product perspective, this is by far the best watch you can have. First, it comes from a brand that has clear and defined product catalog, structured service centers, good warranty setup, etc. Secondly, one could hardly contest the way this watch looks and feels. Thirdly, the movement inside is great, and you may be sure that this product will last for a long time.
If cars were an analogy, same goes for BMW, a great product, from a great brand, but also the favorite car of somewhat sketchy people :). Thank you for your content.
I've had a couple Subs over the years. But for my use, the GMT has been the daily wear watch.
I bought a Sea Dweller 4000 for $1400 in 1982 then traded it plus $100 on a new 16610 Sub in 1993 because the additional thickness of Sea Dweller was wrecking my trouser pockets. My Sub will continue to be the perfect everyday watch if I can new get hands with better lume. Unfortunately the replacement hands fitted at my last service in 2019 were already dull. Currently I wear a newer Speedmaster at night because of the Subs unacceptable lume. I love my Sub!
Ok. My thoughts. I live near the Mississippi River and the Gulf of Mexico. Average rainfall here is…amazing. I wash my hands 30+ times daily. I take my watch off 10 times daily. We have a swimming pool. So what is my 1 watch for my 20cm wrist? A second gen 43mm gray dial Aqua Terra. On shark skin part of the year and on an Uncle beads of rice the rest of the year. Bought second hand 3 years ago for $3500 on EBay. Can wear it truly anywhere. New Orleans French Quarter after dark. Memphis. The Bronx on the subway. Subtle in the extreme. But whenever I sit down with a group of medical students I get “Oh wow! It’s an Omega! “. Am headed to Germany in a few weeks. What will I wear? The Aqua Terra. What will I take along? Tudor GMT root beer and Rolex Datejust 41 black dial fluted Jubilee. Less subtle good for conversation in formal circles and when teaching. All great choices. But I cannot do without my AT!
If only I can wear it where ever I like without worrying about safety🙃🙃🙃
I own a 2017 Rolex sub mariner date, IWC 5004 transitional Big Pilot 46mm, Panerai 1104 44mm and a IWC top gun 45mm…..I love the sub, but I enjoy the larger watches.
Absolutely everything you said is spot on.
I own 124060. No cyclops for me, thank you very much, this is a Sub not a GMT Master.
Anyway, dunked mine in all kinds of washing mixtures unintentionally when I washed my car
Banged him here and there on door frames
Wore him in cold and hot conditions.
Got him wet numerous times.
Still keeps a great time, doing fine.
5:15 Is it not a 3235 movement now with 70 hours power reserve ?
I think if I got rid of all of my watches and kept just one... it would be my Rhodium dial 39mm OP. Departures include the Submariner, Speedmaster, and Santos all pretty good alternatives.
Seems there's some confusion about the one watch lifestyle. The 124060 is my only watch. I put it on in the morning, it comes off when I get into bed. No matter what I'm doing, or where I'm going. I'm not precious about the watch, I'm a farmer and wear doing every single task on the farm, it's been places you can't even imagine. People often forget these were military watches. They're tough as nails. One watch means you have to let go of your fears about something happening to the watch. It's liberating. Of course, if it's a large financial investment for you, it's likely you won't be able to fully embrace truly owning just one watch.
I first noticed the Rolex Submariner in 1962 when I moved to Switzerland as a teenager. Later, when I got out of college I was able purchase a 1966 5512 4 line chronograph. It's been on my wrist ever since. Personally, I have never been attracted to any of the later versions. Dates, gold, gold/steel, diamonds forget it. The 5512 & 5513 are to me THE classic Submariner design. Furthermore, I don't need James Bond or Steve McQueen to convince me it is the most important watch design ever.
I’ve never seen any salesman wearing a submariner, and incan count on 1 hand the times I’ve ever seen someone wearing one
I agree. 99.9 percent of salesmen are just trying to feed their families. I live in a larger Midwest City, and I literally have seen only one other Sub in all of my travels.
These channels get a little carried away saying that everyone and their dog wears a $5k, $10k, $15k, $20k.... watch. Insane.
i have rolex gmt 2 pepsi with jubilee braselet. This is the best watch for my taste. Specially jubilee bracelets is very comfortable.
I don’t have a sub. My go to watch is a Batman. But like you said, I think before I wear it. I recently went to Atlanta - the crime capital of the southern US, and wore my Speedy instead of the Batman. Id rather lose the Speedy than the Batman. I do like the Sub however and might pick one up at some point. It is iconic.
I own this watch since 1998. Bought it at my Rolex dealer in Montreal for 3700 CAD, which was a 8% discount to retail. Yes, back then, you could walk in to an AD and get it below retail on any day. Its a tank, and a great watch. But, if you are buying it now, at above retail there are way better options. Look at the Glashutte Original Seaq. Much better watch for the money. My point is its a great watch but not worth over 10k.