I see you are doing your scribe cuts on the ends of your door frames last, And you have done your side profile first, this causes breakout, on your side profile, ends should’ve been done first, then finishing off with the side profile which will then remove the breakout, Very nice piece of machinery at the price , I have been working with Leitz tooling for many years,
I have the older CNC Felder Profil 45 Format 4 shaper with sliding table and 30MM spindle. With the Felder hold down clamps and using the Aigner fence along with or without the Felder block; we achieve the same you have here for cope and stick cuts. We clamp the wood in a perfect 90 degree position on the out rigger and begin the cut with Felder rail and style tooling or make muntins using the optional Felder high speed spindle and a custom router bit to match the Felder tooling in making muntin profiles. With the CNC fence we are able to adapt to a variety of muntin widths required to join muntin to rail and style. This setup with Felder shaper probably costs approximately $25-27K less than your Martin with sled and Italian tooling. We use the same Felder X-Roll out rigger with Felder round corner tooling and Aigner fence to round over corners of replica antique 150 year old UK design air rifle boxes. For end grain cutting the Felder has a custom spoil block on the out rigger fence to eliminate tear out. Felder Senior was quite a clever guy in his day.
i'm glad you're happy with your felder setup. i know many great woodworkers who do terrific work with felder equipment. i looked at the felder shapers very carefully.... before buying the Martin.
i guess i don't understand the question. i'm doing the cope cuts first, and there's almost no tearout with the zuani cutters, especially on relatively soft woods. then i run the profile cuts, removing that entire edge. any tearout that is there is then gone.
@@jar944 this video is really showing setup - my process is illustrated in the other video. no idea what i was doing here, probably just running a test cut to check the vertical alignment.
@@curlandburl6937 I was hoping you somehow solved the tearout issue with coping after sticking with a single cope head and no profiled backer...lol. Would have saved me from buying clockwise and counter clockwise cope sets.
I see you are doing your scribe cuts on the ends of your door frames last, And you have done your side profile first, this causes breakout, on your side profile, ends should’ve been done first, then finishing off with the side profile which will then remove the breakout,
Very nice piece of machinery at the price , I have been working with Leitz tooling for many years,
i don’t know where you’re seeing that i do sticking cuts first. i don’t. cope cuts first to avoid blowout.
Another super video. There's nothing better than watching a new channel do so much right, right out of the box. 👍
I have the older CNC Felder Profil 45 Format 4 shaper with sliding table and 30MM spindle. With the Felder hold down clamps and using the Aigner fence along with or without the Felder block; we achieve the same you have here for cope and stick cuts. We clamp the wood in a perfect 90 degree position on the out rigger and begin the cut with Felder rail and style tooling or make muntins using the optional Felder high speed spindle and a custom router bit to match the Felder tooling in making muntin profiles. With the CNC fence we are able to adapt to a variety of muntin widths required to join muntin to rail and style. This setup with Felder shaper probably costs approximately $25-27K less than your Martin with sled and Italian tooling. We use the same Felder X-Roll out rigger with Felder round corner tooling and Aigner fence to round over corners of replica antique 150 year old UK design air rifle boxes.
For end grain cutting the Felder has a custom spoil block on the out rigger fence to eliminate tear out. Felder Senior was quite a clever guy in his day.
i'm glad you're happy with your felder setup. i know many great woodworkers who do terrific work with felder equipment. i looked at the felder shapers very carefully.... before buying the Martin.
Ignoring the Martin and macs clamps, how are you coping into the profile without a backer?
i guess i don't understand the question. i'm doing the cope cuts first, and there's almost no tearout with the zuani cutters, especially on relatively soft woods. then i run the profile cuts, removing that entire edge. any tearout that is there is then gone.
@@curlandburl6937 15 seconds into the video you are coping a already profiled rail. I'm guessing from you response that is not your acual process.
@@jar944 this video is really showing setup - my process is illustrated in the other video. no idea what i was doing here, probably just running a test cut to check the vertical alignment.
@@curlandburl6937 I was hoping you somehow solved the tearout issue with coping after sticking with a single cope head and no profiled backer...lol. Would have saved me from buying clockwise and counter clockwise cope sets.
Where can I get a sled like that?
this sled was an option with the shaper... it's not made by Martin, and they do sell it as an accessory. so my suggestion is contact them.
All of your cuts are done last, especially right at the beginning you can see it,
i’m illustrating how to set up for cope cuts. as stated in the video and in other comments. in production cope cuts are first.