Thanks! The best review I've seen of the CX-50 hybrid. I especially like your "sleeping test" in the back. I have a deposit on the Rav4 XSE hybrid, and have been waiting for 3 months for it to arrive. The CX-50 hybrid is on the dealer lots right now. It's lacking a digital rearview mirror, 360 degree camera, and large digital gauge cluster that the Toyota has, but is 2 or 3 thousand less. It would be interesting to see how the Mazda performs off road with A/T tires.
@ yes. It looks great and simple. Though beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I have seen some RAV4 where a change of rims made a difference and some people like that rugged look. However, I like simplicity of Mazda.
Biggest win for this is that it’s available now, I can go to my three nearest Mazdas and find one. I looked at RAV4 hybrids and they are months backed up for a trim with features equivalent to this Mazda.
Thank you for being one of the few reviewers to actually offer some details on the e-AWD 👍 Even though its already slightly lifted over the NA models, I wonder if it can still use the 1.5" lift available on the other CX-50's.
Had to come back to say this is the best review so far after a month of reviews rolling in. Really disappointed in the quality of other reviews that barely even cover the main bullet points, not sure how how much time journalists get but they just seem to offer very little actual insight even though they have the first hand experience. So again, thank you.
I love Mazda's red color and I am not a red color fan. That price is excellent for that size and power. I am definitely a Subaru guy but I can respect a decent Mazda. I've been watching your channel for years due to the amount of info you give and some off road testing. This new sleep test is a great addition for those who use their vehicle to camp in. On Mazda I definitely think a touch screen would be beneficial but being one of the few car brands who use the dials for their infotainment system, I can respect their wanting to be different. The gauges in that are very user friendly and simple. I like that. The hybrid model getting 40 mpg in your testing is awesome for sure while keeping the Mazda "fun to drive" aspect. Speaking to a non car person is always fun because you see how they view the car world and all the gadgets. I have spoke to several while working at a large multi-brand dealer and most people don't ask for a hybrid, most want just the gas version. Just my experience. All in all I always like your reviews and even though I may not agree with some statements, I respect what you do. Thanks for another great video!
I like the Forester a lot. But the fuel economy isn't good for me. I live in Los Angeles with high gas prices. And next year the price is expected to increase again. Looking forward to the Forester hybrid in 2025.
@@kenfrank2730 Now in your situation I would agree. I am glad to see you are looking at the hybrid forester vs shopping another brand. I have a friend who lives in California who has a BMW that requires premium gas. It is crazy how much she pays. I don't understand why NY and CA are so expensive.
Yes, they have a development partnership with them and the Forester Hybrid has been announced as "coming soon". However, I expect it will be more like the Crosstrek Hybrid recently announced in Japan, where they used their hybrid tech integrated into their Symmetrical AWD system instead of just dropping in a full Toyota powertrain like Mazda did here.
I really like how you touch on engine and transmission history and reliability. I think it's important to always include in the videos so that prospective buyers get an idea of what they can expect
Since you mentioned the CRV - I rented a 2024 new with less than 2k miles CRV fully loaded, non hybrid at the time of picking it up. I packed my family, puppy, lugage, and we drove cross country. It was an okay car. No lumbar support and that is not good for cross country, but around town or a few hours either direction it was just fine. I loved the interior, the ride was great, handling was trash in the mountains. My sister met me in Missoula, MT. out of excitement and we went on a small hike, grabbed some food and gas before she took the kids and me and my wife followed her through the pass back into Washington State. Let me just say her 2020 Huyndai Tucson SEL handled the mountian pass MUCH better than the CRV, while the CRV had more power as it was turbo (not much, really), the CVT is not tuned for decending down a pass, even putting the transmission in [L] did not help too much as I still had to tap the brakes way more often than she did, not only because the transmission was lacking selectable gears like her standard 6-speed or other cars such as Suabaru with preset selectable rations on their CVT, but also due to the horrible handling. My sister's Tucson was pulling away from me without even trying while in a very safe manner and the CRV was nerve wracking, I am actually convinced my old RX330, which is well taken car of but has high miles now, would be able to outpeform the new CRV. I think the CRV is great, I would buy one as a daily family hualer, but if you live in the hills, mountains, or even plan on driving LONG road trips more than a day long each way, I think there are way better options. When we retuned the CRV after 10 days, we had put on close to 3400-5k miles, I can't remember the exact amount but the MPG was very low and not even remotely close to what Honda claims (34 highway) as it only got 26 mpg the whole trip, outside of the moutain pass, some hills, it was mostly all highway or interstate travel, though it likely was not fully broke in yet. We spent tons of time traveling all over Washington State, parts of MT (some of my old stomping grounds), Yellowstone, Wyoming, and South Dakota and a couple other states, it was an amazing trip that I wish we could relive again and again, even with the CRV's shortcomings.
Turn off the ac/fan when testing the ev mode so the enginge doesn´t start right away just because it wants to warm the inside of the car. I can drive my rav4 a few km city driving in ev mode only with the ac turned off when the battery is fully charged.
A note on the CX-30's heads up display. In mine it does not vibrate so it may be an issue with particular units. With the Mazda nav and Apple maps it has a nice addition that is the next directions appear on it and at some moments an indication of lanes and which you should take. No such thing with Google maps, so if you get one use the Mazda or Apple Maps for a better experience. You don't see the map on the heads up, but arrows and lanes helping you to do the next transition in your route. They show some color too that was unexpected, the speed indicator is only white, but the display can show some colors.
Thank you for mentioning the CVT setup in the CX-50. So many people have loved Mazda for not using CVTs and for keeping their tried and tested transmissions. However, if Mazda was every going to switch, the Toyota eCVT was definitely their best option to help maintain reliability. It definitely won’t be the most exciting transmission in a Mazda, but this Hybrid CX-50 is making a statement. Being reliable and fuel efficient doesn’t mean having to sacrifice intuitive handling and fun driving dynamics. It may not be groundbreaking, but Mazda is definitely adding some much needed enjoyment to relatively unimpressive vehicle category.
I’ve watched a lot of them, and this is the best review of the new CX 50 hybrid, esp in terms of going over the technical details of the drivetrain. Would be interesting to add cabin noise measurements under throttle at, say, 35 mph while accelerating to get to 60 mph as well as the decibel level at a highway cruising range of 65 mph. Lastly, just a question: do you check the PSI of each tire before test driving a vehicle? I ask because on that last task where you hit the ground a little bit, it could have been different if the tires were better inflated - and because I’ve found that dealerships aren’t always on top of this, especially if the car has been on the lot for a while. PSI also makes a difference on the noise level in the cabin. IMHO an entire video could be done on the impact of differences in air pressure across the 4 tires with regard to road noise, MPG’s, acceleration, braking, handling and sway; under-inflation, hyper-inflation, & significant differences of pressure between tires makes a greater impact on ride quality than what most consumers appreciate.
The horsepower figure you quoted, which is the COMBINED engine and electric motors HP, is correct. The TORQUE figure is wrong. That 163 ft-lbs is for the internal combustion engine ONLY. Because of how the hybrid system works, the actual "crankshaft" torque VARIES in such a way as to make quoting it useless for comparison to other vehicles. This is why Toyota and Mazda do NOT provide torque numbers for the drivetrain.
That right, youtuber Vilbrequin have put a 2017-22 prius prime on the dyno, and hp was 125 combine and like 285 pound feet of torque combine (dyno tested) so a bigger engine mus have better torque then the 1.8L of the prius
Rav4 hybrid estimates have generally been a 220ft lb torque which coincides with its 0-60 of 7.3s. Comment above with dyno... Ya those torque figures are WAY off 😂
I don't' mind the slight difference in mpg, considering that the look in the rav is DATED, interior is even WORSE and looks like its 10-15 years old like most Toyota interiors that age like milk. While Mazda interiors look much more modern and age better. Subjective I know that's just how I feel.
Keep in mind that hybrid in Rav4 is 4th generation THS and it's due for a new redesign in a year or two. When it's released, it will come with 5th generation.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video but I almost considered this crossover then realized that the power train is the same as the toyota RAV4 hybrid &instead leased the 2025 hyundai tucson hybrid
Ignoring your opinion on the Infotainment as I absolutely love Mazda's system. Sure it takes getting used to, but once you do its great. I can navigate menus without even looking at the screen I'm so comfortable with the Rotary Knob and buttons. I thank you for the review. I honestly didn't know Toyota's CVT wasn't a normal CVT. I went and looked up a video about it. My main hesitation about considering this vehicles was the CVT. I thought it had a normal one with a belt. Now that I know it doesn't I'm considering it more. I never really tow more than like 1100-1200 pounds, so towing is more than adequate for me. Especially if I use the money I'd save getting the CX-50 instead of the CX-90 PHEV, I could get a lighter trailer for my motorcycle to drop my towing weight even more. I currently have a 2017 CX-5, so this would be a great upgrade path for me.
when you need to use the spare tire...i'm assuming its better to put it at the rear where its the electric motor? Can you replace tires in pairs (front set , rear set) rather than all 4 tires if need be ? Does this CX50 have that same complaint for the Rav4 hybrid harness corrosion (cablegate?)
I really like your style. Call it as it is. The words Good and Bad can be found in the same sentence. That is appreciated. I would like to just add my 2 cents on a All Wheel Drive function. To best illustrate my point I use a 1999 Honda CR-V and a 2006 Honda CR-V. The '99 has -- All Wheel Drive -- the '06 has -- Real Time AWD. The difference is very important. On the '99 the wheels MUST slip before AWD is engaged. That can be problematic when the delay finally engages while in a turn or other such maneuver. Granted it is an older system and it has a very " ON /OFF" transition but it can lead to unintended results like launching you into the woods . This I testify to from experience. Now the Gen (2.5/3) the transition is seamless in the '06. I am not sure HOW entirely, and I suspect it is at the cost of a MPG penalty but it is as they say, MOST REASSURING. At 70+ and having teethed on a MB38 as my first 4WD and 26 others after that.. I can say that the Mazda AWD engagement is near seamless. And that Sir is a GOOD thing. CHEERS!
Ryan's wrong on this one. That's the engine only. Toyota doesn't give combined torque numbers on their synergy hybrid systems. It's been estimated by Alex on Autos 🤓 to be around 220lb torque which coincided with its 0-60 times of 7.3s on the Rav4 hybrid.
Interesting about your radar cruise control not working during a heavy rain. I’ve been driving my CX 50 for almost 2 years and I’ve never had any issues driving in heavy rain with the radar cruise system.🤔
@@tomcat1555 I'm not saying I've driven with the radar cruise control on during a heavy rain, but you can still get a warning that the radar cruise control/ sensing system is inactive.
I've heard recently that the reason we haven't seen much of the 2025 TOYOTA RAV4/HYBRID reviews across the web is because Toyota has had some issues and they missed the mark with production improvements knowing buyers were expecting a big refresh and thus redirected to new engineering partnerships like with Mazda and kept things the same for the 2025 Rav4. Seems like if you can get a good deal on a 2024 Rav 4 on a high-end model just get it over anything in 2025
Additional note: saw this tested against the Rav4 and it's 1Db quieter on the road (60mph). I would *expect* a euro brand to be quieter (as mentioned), but which one has a CUV hybrid?? I want a hybrid CUV. And I want it to run on 87 octane. And I want it loaded at
Curious to now see what the Subaru hybrid is going to contain,is it going to be this powertrain,or is Subaru going to modify it to fit one of there global boxer motors.
Subaru is modifying theirs. If you Google "2025 Japan Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid", I expect that we'll get a similar powrtrain. It's using Toyota tech integrated into the Symmetrical AWD system. Not the Toyota eAWD setup.
I would hate to see Subaru stiffen the suspension on the Forester to accommodate the higher center of gravity of an I-4. It's so luxurious compared to the rest of the segment.
This is a redemption from the 2023 CX 50 review, great job! But I would never buy a ecvt/cvt car, it ruins the Mazda driving soul. Happy with my naturally aspirated 2024 cx50.
Odd that you get more ground clearance with the low-profile tires (worse for offroading bumps). And the wheelbase is too long for good breakover angles, which is also odd since this is marketed as more offroady than other AWD Mazdas. But its approach & departure angles seem to beat the RAV4. A Corolla Cross Hybrid with a shorter wheelbase than both might actually prove better offroad.
This Mazda is being sensible like a Toyota Venza. Admittedly without acoustic glass. But you get a much larger vehicle and a good sound system so I’ll overlook the lack of sound deadening. This isn’t filled with gimmicks and it’ll still be a good looking car in 20 years. Mazda isn’t competing with Toyota, rather Toyota licensed their tech out to Mazda. It’s a brilliant move for both companies.
I also run Wildpeak AT Trails on my Rav4 hybrid (drive cross continent every year from Canada) and really like the tires. Great grip softroading, mild off-roading, wet and snow/ice. Quiet and smooth on highway, decent handling and wear. Does give up a few MPGs being a heavier tire + tread design but well worth it for that grip. And they look great!
Oh wow, drives like a Mazda, but using Toyota’s hybrid technology. Sounds like a win! Mazda leapfrogged to the front of the compact hybrids crossovers.
Glad I went with the gas model; the 2 inches of legroom makes a big difference with a car seat in the rear. Other than that this thing is near perfect!
I'm thinking the same. Which one did you decide ? I'm planning for CR-V hybrid earlier but realized it does not have spare tire. I'm thinking about CX-50 since it has spare. Any final thoughts? Thanks
The base hybrid price seems very reasonable. But 42K for a beam rear axle? No thanks. Also, what happens to the AWD system if the batteries become depleted? Do you get variable AWD response as the battery charge varies? Edit: I read more about the eAWD system. I get it now: the third electric motor charges the rear AWD motors. I think you mentioned this in your review, but I did not understand what you were saying when you said it "charges the battery". It seems like a decent system, but I am very interested in how Subaru will implement the Toyota AWD system in their cars. I understand they are going to implement it into a "symmetrical" system with the gas engine sending at least some power to all 4 wheels. Seems like a much better system, but more complex and might sacrifice a bit of mileage. Overall, the CX-50 is such a nice car, it just irritates me no end that they stuck it with a beam axle and stubbornly refuse to modify the "commander" control on the infotainment system.
For all that pakaging and motor wonder weight of turbo vs hybrid Reason being mazda makes less effecient on hybrid version this hybrid was purposely develop under that system while if you bolt a system to random platform mostly likely it could likely have penalty
I was just quoted an out the door price of $47965 for one of these at the Mazda dealership in Torrance, CA. It looks like a great car but for that price, I'm going to look at a 2024 RAV4! $10 k mark up!
Too bad Toyota discontinued the Venza. I bought a 2024 limited for $45,000 and have a CX5 also. I like the mazda but the Venza is more upscale and much more so than a RAV4 and it has the same engine and powertrain.
I've test drove this car just recently. Perhaps the complaints are genuine, but coming from a large dude like myself, the seats can be described as supportive at most. They're far better than the ones in most BMWs, which are bone stiff. They're very plush, the ones in the Mazda. My biggest complaint is the road noise. Definitely not enough cushioning and insulating in the doors and panes. Seats were not an issue, however, by any means.
Mazda does have a BEAUTIFUL red paint.
Yep but it’s fragile as well
@ericramirez7450 Is that right? Like, it's a thin layer of paint?
The pigment on the soul red crystal metallic is as good as their Polymetal gray paint they offer
@@ericramirez7450Yeah, that's what I heard too.
Renault also have a lovely red with alittle orange in it. Always turns my head.
Loved that line "The best Rav4 is...a Mazda!" 😄
Imagine driving a Toyota with even a hint of steering feel.
The best Toyota is a BMW
Thanks! The best review I've seen of the CX-50 hybrid. I especially like your "sleeping test" in the back. I have a deposit on the Rav4 XSE hybrid, and have been waiting for 3 months for it to arrive. The CX-50 hybrid is on the dealer lots right now. It's lacking a digital rearview mirror, 360 degree camera, and large digital gauge cluster that the Toyota has, but is 2 or 3 thousand less. It would be interesting to see how the Mazda performs off road with A/T tires.
Rav4 & CX-50 is a match made in heaven bulletproof powertrain
I love RAV4 and its resale value but I like Mazda CX50’s interior a lot more.
Facts. The cx50 also looks better imo.
@ yes. It looks great and simple. Though beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I have seen some RAV4 where a change of rims made a difference and some people like that rugged look. However, I like simplicity of Mazda.
Good luck trying to get one. I tried and the Dealer said it's a very limited run
@@xiondFirst Interesting. The two Mazda dealers near me have a few in stock.
@@xiondFirst I wouldn’t trust that dealer’s word
Biggest win for this is that it’s available now, I can go to my three nearest Mazdas and find one. I looked at RAV4 hybrids and they are months backed up for a trim with features equivalent to this Mazda.
and don't forget the crazy markup even on the base model non hybrid ones!
this is the only review w a trail test. Thank you!
Thank you for being one of the few reviewers to actually offer some details on the e-AWD 👍 Even though its already slightly lifted over the NA models, I wonder if it can still use the 1.5" lift available on the other CX-50's.
Adding a lift and A/T tires would be interesting.
Had to come back to say this is the best review so far after a month of reviews rolling in. Really disappointed in the quality of other reviews that barely even cover the main bullet points, not sure how how much time journalists get but they just seem to offer very little actual insight even though they have the first hand experience. So again, thank you.
I love Mazda's red color and I am not a red color fan. That price is excellent for that size and power. I am definitely a Subaru guy but I can respect a decent Mazda. I've been watching your channel for years due to the amount of info you give and some off road testing. This new sleep test is a great addition for those who use their vehicle to camp in. On Mazda I definitely think a touch screen would be beneficial but being one of the few car brands who use the dials for their infotainment system, I can respect their wanting to be different. The gauges in that are very user friendly and simple. I like that. The hybrid model getting 40 mpg in your testing is awesome for sure while keeping the Mazda "fun to drive" aspect. Speaking to a non car person is always fun because you see how they view the car world and all the gadgets. I have spoke to several while working at a large multi-brand dealer and most people don't ask for a hybrid, most want just the gas version. Just my experience. All in all I always like your reviews and even though I may not agree with some statements, I respect what you do. Thanks for another great video!
I like the Forester a lot. But the fuel economy isn't good for me. I live in Los Angeles with high gas prices. And next year the price is expected to increase again. Looking forward to the Forester hybrid in 2025.
@@kenfrank2730 Now in your situation I would agree. I am glad to see you are looking at the hybrid forester vs shopping another brand. I have a friend who lives in California who has a BMW that requires premium gas. It is crazy how much she pays. I don't understand why NY and CA are so expensive.
I wish Subaru would do this in the Outback and/or Forester. A true hybrid Subaru would be really nice.
Subaru's Hybrid Forester is coming out next spring.
@@drivingsports I did not know that. Is Subaru borrowing from Toyota, as well? Subaru's previous in house hybrids have been lackluster.
Yes, they have a development partnership with them and the Forester Hybrid has been announced as "coming soon". However, I expect it will be more like the Crosstrek Hybrid recently announced in Japan, where they used their hybrid tech integrated into their Symmetrical AWD system instead of just dropping in a full Toyota powertrain like Mazda did here.
Sadly it sounds like the Forester hybrid for Canada will no longer be manufactured in Japan....
When the crosstrek strong hybrid wilderness edition comes out, I'll be first in line haha.
I really like how you touch on engine and transmission history and reliability. I think it's important to always include in the videos so that prospective buyers get an idea of what they can expect
Since you mentioned the CRV - I rented a 2024 new with less than 2k miles CRV fully loaded, non hybrid at the time of picking it up. I packed my family, puppy, lugage, and we drove cross country. It was an okay car. No lumbar support and that is not good for cross country, but around town or a few hours either direction it was just fine. I loved the interior, the ride was great, handling was trash in the mountains.
My sister met me in Missoula, MT. out of excitement and we went on a small hike, grabbed some food and gas before she took the kids and me and my wife followed her through the pass back into Washington State. Let me just say her 2020 Huyndai Tucson SEL handled the mountian pass MUCH better than the CRV, while the CRV had more power as it was turbo (not much, really), the CVT is not tuned for decending down a pass, even putting the transmission in [L] did not help too much as I still had to tap the brakes way more often than she did, not only because the transmission was lacking selectable gears like her standard 6-speed or other cars such as Suabaru with preset selectable rations on their CVT, but also due to the horrible handling. My sister's Tucson was pulling away from me without even trying while in a very safe manner and the CRV was nerve wracking, I am actually convinced my old RX330, which is well taken car of but has high miles now, would be able to outpeform the new CRV.
I think the CRV is great, I would buy one as a daily family hualer, but if you live in the hills, mountains, or even plan on driving LONG road trips more than a day long each way, I think there are way better options. When we retuned the CRV after 10 days, we had put on close to 3400-5k miles, I can't remember the exact amount but the MPG was very low and not even remotely close to what Honda claims (34 highway) as it only got 26 mpg the whole trip, outside of the moutain pass, some hills, it was mostly all highway or interstate travel, though it likely was not fully broke in yet.
We spent tons of time traveling all over Washington State, parts of MT (some of my old stomping grounds), Yellowstone, Wyoming, and South Dakota and a couple other states, it was an amazing trip that I wish we could relive again and again, even with the CRV's shortcomings.
This review is so pleasant to watch! Every second of it is entertaining!
Wow what a great collaboration, way to go Mazda.
I love your reviews my friend ..greetings from New Jersey
No mention of the missing heated steering wheel? A huge miss, heated & vented seats but no heated wheel (crazy).
Turn off the ac/fan when testing the ev mode so the enginge doesn´t start right away just because it wants to warm the inside of the car. I can drive my rav4 a few km city driving in ev mode only with the ac turned off when the battery is fully charged.
A note on the CX-30's heads up display. In mine it does not vibrate so it may be an issue with particular units. With the Mazda nav and Apple maps it has a nice addition that is the next directions appear on it and at some moments an indication of lanes and which you should take. No such thing with Google maps, so if you get one use the Mazda or Apple Maps for a better experience. You don't see the map on the heads up, but arrows and lanes helping you to do the next transition in your route. They show some color too that was unexpected, the speed indicator is only white, but the display can show some colors.
Thank you for this test I am considering in purchasing one. Toyota hybrid drivetrain has proven to be effective.
Thank you very much! was very much looking forward to this review as I am considering buying one
I would definitely be interested in this vehicle. Just looks mature yet adventurous. AWD and Hybrid for that price is very compelling.
Thank you for mentioning the CVT setup in the CX-50. So many people have loved Mazda for not using CVTs and for keeping their tried and tested transmissions. However, if Mazda was every going to switch, the Toyota eCVT was definitely their best option to help maintain reliability. It definitely won’t be the most exciting transmission in a Mazda, but this Hybrid CX-50 is making a statement. Being reliable and fuel efficient doesn’t mean having to sacrifice intuitive handling and fun driving dynamics.
It may not be groundbreaking, but Mazda is definitely adding some much needed enjoyment to relatively unimpressive vehicle category.
Fantastic Mazda CX50 hybrid … cool video
I’ve watched a lot of them, and this is the best review of the new CX 50 hybrid, esp in terms of going over the technical details of the drivetrain. Would be interesting to add cabin noise measurements under throttle at, say, 35 mph while accelerating to get to 60 mph as well as the decibel level at a highway cruising range of 65 mph. Lastly, just a question: do you check the PSI of each tire before test driving a vehicle? I ask because on that last task where you hit the ground a little bit, it could have been different if the tires were better inflated - and because I’ve found that dealerships aren’t always on top of this, especially if the car has been on the lot for a while. PSI also makes a difference on the noise level in the cabin. IMHO an entire video could be done on the impact of differences in air pressure across the 4 tires with regard to road noise, MPG’s, acceleration, braking, handling and sway; under-inflation, hyper-inflation, & significant differences of pressure between tires makes a greater impact on ride quality than what most consumers appreciate.
The horsepower figure you quoted, which is the COMBINED engine and electric motors HP, is correct. The TORQUE figure is wrong. That 163 ft-lbs is for the internal combustion engine ONLY. Because of how the hybrid system works, the actual "crankshaft" torque VARIES in such a way as to make quoting it useless for comparison to other vehicles. This is why Toyota and Mazda do NOT provide torque numbers for the drivetrain.
That right, youtuber Vilbrequin have put a 2017-22 prius prime on the dyno, and hp was 125 combine and like 285 pound feet of torque combine (dyno tested) so a bigger engine mus have better torque then the 1.8L of the prius
Rav4 hybrid estimates have generally been a 220ft lb torque which coincides with its 0-60 of 7.3s. Comment above with dyno... Ya those torque figures are WAY off 😂
@@James-il3tqrewatch it and it was 286nm so 211 ft pound
Don't you mean its 39 in the CITY and 37 on the HWY? on the CX50? @2:14
Didn't you mean the same for Rav4 which is 41 in the CITY not the highway?
yeah I notice that too, but he says differently later on in the video.
I don't' mind the slight difference in mpg, considering that the look in the rav is DATED, interior is even WORSE and looks like its 10-15 years old like most Toyota interiors that age like milk. While Mazda interiors look much more modern and age better. Subjective I know that's just how I feel.
You get steering lines with the rear camera if you change the camera view
But you can’t change the camera view in a non-turbo CX 50 or the hybrid CX 50, only in the top trim turbo model
Keep in mind that hybrid in Rav4 is 4th generation THS and it's due for a new redesign in a year or two. When it's released, it will come with 5th generation.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video but I almost considered this crossover then realized that the power train is the same as the toyota RAV4 hybrid &instead leased the 2025 hyundai tucson hybrid
Ignoring your opinion on the Infotainment as I absolutely love Mazda's system. Sure it takes getting used to, but once you do its great. I can navigate menus without even looking at the screen I'm so comfortable with the Rotary Knob and buttons.
I thank you for the review. I honestly didn't know Toyota's CVT wasn't a normal CVT. I went and looked up a video about it. My main hesitation about considering this vehicles was the CVT. I thought it had a normal one with a belt. Now that I know it doesn't I'm considering it more. I never really tow more than like 1100-1200 pounds, so towing is more than adequate for me. Especially if I use the money I'd save getting the CX-50 instead of the CX-90 PHEV, I could get a lighter trailer for my motorcycle to drop my towing weight even more. I currently have a 2017 CX-5, so this would be a great upgrade path for me.
I love the Red of Mazda. Does the cx90 hybrid also uses Toyota drivetrain?
Mazda's build quality is superb!
nice, no more line up at Toyota for a RAV4 and I can get a MAV4 instead
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when you need to use the spare tire...i'm assuming its better to put it at the rear where its the electric motor?
Can you replace tires in pairs (front set , rear set) rather than all 4 tires if need be ?
Does this CX50 have that same complaint for the Rav4 hybrid harness corrosion (cablegate?)
Issue was fixed in 2022 models onwards. That issue was overhyped btw. I'm a 2019 Rav4 hybrid owner with over 200,000km living in Alberta. Zero issues.
I really like your style. Call it as it is. The words Good and Bad can be found in the same sentence. That is appreciated. I would like to just add my 2 cents on a All Wheel Drive function. To best illustrate my point I use a 1999 Honda CR-V and a 2006 Honda CR-V. The '99 has -- All Wheel Drive -- the '06 has -- Real Time AWD. The difference is very important. On the '99 the wheels MUST slip before AWD is engaged. That can be problematic when the delay finally engages while in a turn or other such maneuver. Granted it is an older system and it has a very " ON /OFF" transition but it can lead to unintended results like launching you into the woods . This I testify to from experience. Now the Gen (2.5/3) the transition is seamless in the '06. I am not sure HOW entirely, and I suspect it is at the cost of a MPG penalty but it is as they say, MOST REASSURING. At 70+ and having teethed on a MB38 as my first 4WD and 26 others after that.. I can say that the Mazda AWD engagement is near seamless. And that Sir is a GOOD thing. CHEERS!
Those torque numbers, is that just the engine, just the electric motors or all combined? 163 sounds low for both combined
Those are the numbers they provided. Combined.
Ryan's wrong on this one. That's the engine only. Toyota doesn't give combined torque numbers on their synergy hybrid systems. It's been estimated by Alex on Autos 🤓 to be around 220lb torque which coincided with its 0-60 times of 7.3s on the Rav4 hybrid.
You had me at spare tire
Ryan idk if you saw but ford is bringing out a hybrid with a mechanical awd for the 25 Mav. I hope there are plans for you to review one👀
Speaking of Forester, where's the local review for that? The road trip video was excellent but there was footage from the local course teased.
Interesting about your radar cruise control not working during a heavy rain. I’ve been driving my CX 50 for almost 2 years and I’ve never had any issues driving in heavy rain with the radar cruise system.🤔
You’re not supposed to use radar cruise control in heavy rain! That goes for any car brands.
@@tomcat1555 I'm not saying I've driven with the radar cruise control on during a heavy rain, but you can still get a warning that the radar cruise control/ sensing system is inactive.
Dang, I was kinda hoping it would have been built in Japan. Think I'll wait for the 2026 model or the Forester hybrid.
Wish they offered a light interior in the hybrid. Black and dried-blood red get far too hot in the summer in Missouri.
A lost opportunity to not give the Meridian trim the hybrid treatment
I've heard recently that the reason we haven't seen much of the 2025 TOYOTA RAV4/HYBRID reviews across the web is because Toyota has had some issues and they missed the mark with production improvements knowing buyers were expecting a big refresh and thus redirected to new engineering partnerships like with Mazda and kept things the same for the 2025 Rav4. Seems like if you can get a good deal on a 2024 Rav 4 on a high-end model just get it over anything in 2025
Additional note: saw this tested against the Rav4 and it's 1Db quieter on the road (60mph). I would *expect* a euro brand to be quieter (as mentioned), but which one has a CUV hybrid?? I want a hybrid CUV. And I want it to run on 87 octane. And I want it loaded at
Overall great design & vehicle. My only complaint the rear design and low roofline
Curious to now see what the Subaru hybrid is going to contain,is it going to be this powertrain,or is Subaru going to modify it to fit one of there global boxer motors.
Subaru is modifying theirs. If you Google "2025 Japan Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid", I expect that we'll get a similar powrtrain. It's using Toyota tech integrated into the Symmetrical AWD system. Not the Toyota eAWD setup.
I would hate to see Subaru stiffen the suspension on the Forester to accommodate the higher center of gravity of an I-4. It's so luxurious compared to the rest of the segment.
I think I read somewhere Subaru will leave their awd system with driveshaft
@ correct. It will have a driveshaft.
This is a redemption from the 2023 CX 50 review, great job! But I would never buy a ecvt/cvt car, it ruins the Mazda driving soul. Happy with my naturally aspirated 2024 cx50.
Great economic as a daily car. Thanks for off road test. Greetings
Wow that did very well off road for what it is. 😎. I would get 17" wheels with wild peak tires.
FYI the cx90/70 phev is a 2.5liter 4cylinder 😊
What are you talking about interior updates? That dash stitching has been the same on top trims from the beginning.
Why don’t cx50 have garage door opener? That’s a step backward?
That was pretty quick “crawl” in ev mode lol😅
Holy crap, do you do any pre research? Looking for the charging pad. Dude, this is 101 stuff.
It was a pre-production vehicle dropped off before it was announced without any documentation.
Good review, of a nice car.
Ughh.. this machine is soo attractive! Need opinion, would yall go for Mazda CX50 or Lexus NX350?
Great review.
Beautiful mazda.
I am curious about an off-road CX-50 Turbo vs Hybrid faceoff.
Not being able to comfortably use this as a camper at 6'1" myself is disappointing 😢
I'm torn between this and the venza hybrid...any thoughts? Probably get a great deal on a left over discontinued venza..
I think you misspoke on the combined torque figure. It’s 263 lb/ft, not 163.
I wish this came to Australia
Odd that you get more ground clearance with the low-profile tires (worse for offroading bumps). And the wheelbase is too long for good breakover angles, which is also odd since this is marketed as more offroady than other AWD Mazdas. But its approach & departure angles seem to beat the RAV4. A Corolla Cross Hybrid with a shorter wheelbase than both might actually prove better offroad.
This Mazda is being sensible like a Toyota Venza. Admittedly without acoustic glass. But you get a much larger vehicle and a good sound system so I’ll overlook the lack of sound deadening.
This isn’t filled with gimmicks and it’ll still be a good looking car in 20 years.
Mazda isn’t competing with Toyota, rather Toyota licensed their tech out to Mazda. It’s a brilliant move for both companies.
I run Wildpeaks on my CX-30 Carbon edition and I love it
I also run Wildpeak AT Trails on my Rav4 hybrid (drive cross continent every year from Canada) and really like the tires. Great grip softroading, mild off-roading, wet and snow/ice. Quiet and smooth on highway, decent handling and wear. Does give up a few MPGs being a heavier tire + tread design but well worth it for that grip. And they look great!
Oh wow, drives like a Mazda, but using Toyota’s hybrid technology. Sounds like a win! Mazda leapfrogged to the front of the compact hybrids crossovers.
I do like lane centering, but not available here.
It's horrible. Fights you nonstop. It's like arguing with a car
If they did a PIH I'd buy it in a second but it's compelling as is
Mazda styling and j terror with Toyota powertrains…. Always best of both worlds!
If only CX5 had this instead of CX50 😩
I really like Mazda’s but the Torsion Beam rear suspension is a big thumbs down for me. I’m very curious what the next gen CX-5 hybrid will be like
Glad I went with the gas model; the 2 inches of legroom makes a big difference with a car seat in the rear. Other than that this thing is near perfect!
My friend wants one
Which one would YOU recommend? The CRV or the CX-50?
CRV hybrid.
@ thank you so much for responding! Dang my mind says CRV my heart CX-50
I'm thinking the same. Which one did you decide ? I'm planning for CR-V hybrid earlier but realized it does not have spare tire. I'm thinking about CX-50 since it has spare. Any final thoughts? Thanks
@@suryak657 We ended up buying the CRV. Beautiful car!
@@suryak657 For us the deciding factor was the space in the back seat. That extra Idk 2 inch maybe? Is very nice!
Well, so much for a Subaru Forester getting a Rav4 hybrid engine in the future.
The base hybrid price seems very reasonable. But 42K for a beam rear axle? No thanks. Also, what happens to the AWD system if the batteries become depleted? Do you get variable AWD response as the battery charge varies?
Edit: I read more about the eAWD system. I get it now: the third electric motor charges the rear AWD motors. I think you mentioned this in your review, but I did not understand what you were saying when you said it "charges the battery". It seems like a decent system, but I am very interested in how Subaru will implement the Toyota AWD system in their cars. I understand they are going to implement it into a "symmetrical" system with the gas engine sending at least some power to all 4 wheels. Seems like a much better system, but more complex and might sacrifice a bit of mileage. Overall, the CX-50 is such a nice car, it just irritates me no end that they stuck it with a beam axle and stubbornly refuse to modify the "commander" control on the infotainment system.
I wonder how this stacks up against the Signia? 🤔
I tested both and purchased a CX-50 hybrid. Signia was not fun to drive, poor acceleration
@@VaheTheGreat1 how is the seat in the Mazda? The reviews say it's not as comfortable?
@@Just_Joe71I don't remember the Signia seats but CX-50 Hybrid seats are more comfortable than 2020 CX-5 seats
Just came from Driven....but I'm more excited about this review
That guy also does great work.
Tom is great. And in case you’re curious, it is the exact same car. Tom got it after me.
@@drivingsports I always wondered about that
Thank you, thank you for answering the actually-relevant-for-camping question: can I sleep in it?
One downside is Mazda warranties hybrid for 100k while Toyota warranties 150k
If that's true it's a good point
My CX50 has something called traffic jam assist which is active lane centering under 40mph.
Isn’t that only available on the turbo models though?
For all that pakaging and motor wonder weight of turbo vs hybrid
Reason being mazda makes less effecient on hybrid version this hybrid was purposely develop under that system while if you bolt a system to random platform mostly likely it could likely have penalty
Funny how you said logarithmic but gestured exponential :)
My hands are always overly dramatic.
5 inch is equal to 127 mm (9:46)
2026 Passport Trailsport preview/review in the books?
Eventually. No eta yet.
Will the CX-50 have the same cablegate issue as the Rav4?
Toyota Rav4 Hybrid is a 1 year booking.
how will Toyota manage the Mazda hybrid demand as additional ?
mazda has nothing to fear to subaru with their awd and even best they dont have Cvt
Not big on Mazdas these days (lost me after the RX8), but even I’ll be the first to tell you that modern Mazda paint colors are absolutely stunning.
Bye bye Sportage, Tucson, CR-V, xtrail, MG HS.... 😁😁👍👍
I was just quoted an out the door price of $47965 for one of these at the Mazda dealership in Torrance, CA. It looks like a great car but for that price, I'm going to look at a 2024 RAV4! $10 k mark up!
Too bad Toyota discontinued the Venza. I bought a 2024 limited for $45,000 and have a CX5 also. I like the mazda but the Venza is more upscale and much more so than a RAV4 and it has the same engine and powertrain.
MSRP all day up here in the bay area...
47k??? its listed for 33-40k on their website
That's disgusting. Dealer near me never goes above msrp
Read lots of owner complaints about the seats being way to firm and uncomportable !
I've test drove this car just recently. Perhaps the complaints are genuine, but coming from a large dude like myself, the seats can be described as supportive at most. They're far better than the ones in most BMWs, which are bone stiff. They're very plush, the ones in the Mazda.
My biggest complaint is the road noise. Definitely not enough cushioning and insulating in the doors and panes. Seats were not an issue, however, by any means.
Hate when carmakers force you to use a dial to control all the infotainment
can anyone else comment if cx50 is definitely more fun to drive than rav4?
What do you guys think: This or the CRV?
no trails just shopping carts and pedestrians
Nissan Rogue could have partnered with Toyota, too, for its hybrid power terrain. Nissan is lacking hybrid options in its brand lineup.
Nissan/Mitsubishi went with Honda
nissan is probably going to work with Renault instead of Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, Izusu, Suzuki.... all works with Toyota.
Except that Nissan has the e-Power hybrid system which isn't available in US yet
Yes, they definitely need some hybrid options. I would rather have a hybrid rogue than a three cylinder turbo rogue!