Hillsong Church - Phil Dooley Responds to Bombshell Allegations
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Hillsong Global Senior Pastor Phil Dooley responds to bombshell allegations by Australian MP Andrew Wilkie that Hillsong misused church funds to fund pastors' lavish spending and commit fraud.
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Thank you for your article Julie Roy’s.
Dodgy business will be uncovered. The lord is cleaning house within the church worldwide.
He will hold our leaders accountable for their behaviour, As well as all of us.
Satan is your lord you serve money
All those fake vultures eat themselves up, the sovereign One has no need to winnow totally lost fake money success worshippers who have ALL taken their rewards on earth from day 1. Get a clue find sound doctrine not fake yuppie liberal new age trash misusing and blaspheming the title
My father was a Pentecostal Pastor for more than 30 years in New Zealand and Australia and we never lived the lifestyle these people have. Dad often had another job to help make ends meet but we never went without. The Lord always provided. I've never been a fan of the mega church model as I think there can be too much room for pride, and misuse of power as you have shown numerous times Julie. As Paul Washer stated, the greatest threat to the church today are the Pastors. They are caught up in their vision and they lack accountability and transparency particularly when it comes to money. No servant can serve two masters!
Absolutely. The modern church has lost their way, and they actually sometimes DEFEND these mega church pastors' life style - how thick can you get??
Not to mention the rock star wannabees up on the stage.
It's become a (sexy) fashion show coffee bar with a free rock concert.
Nauseating.
Same here....even though my father has been gone for many years he too was a Pentecostal Pastor in East Texas, and never do I remember as a child growing up do I recall living such a lifestyle. My father worked a full-time job in addition to serving as Pastor!
1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
So all the crusades and pedophilia up to now were ok eh einstein holy 1 genius hahahahhahahahhahahaha
I think what he is saying is please don’t stop giving.
Yes, and taking economy flights will take so much longer…😂 please they must think we are idiots.
@@nano4096 all.their supporters certainly ARE hahahahaha
So you received very expensive gifts Pastor who knew ‘nothing’ about the finances. Private jets !Brian spent $2million in private jets airfares.
Thousands at luxury restaurants, resorts and clothing
Go and look at the documents leaked church ! You’ll be shocked
Mr Wilkie is exposing the lies and excessive illegal spending 😢
I couldn’t even finish listening……..
Me too, it's utterely despicable.
Nauseating video.
Explain.
Even at a time like this, he needs to read a well-prepared document, he has nothing to say that comes from his heart? He can't even read properly!!!
I have no patience for those. Use faith and god's name for selfish gain. So sad....power never brings out the best in a human....
These people at Hillsong have lost their minds, especially the leaders like Dooley, Rob Ferguson and Margaret Stunt.
Phil dooley should be apologizing to Andrew Wilkey. For putting him in the position where he had to use parliamentary privilege to get answers. This is a time of mourning and repentance for Hillsong as an organization if they wish to survive.
Sad to see so many blinded people in that audience, wake up folks. Follow the Lord not Phil Dooley and Co.
They get what they want theb perpetuation of their self righteous delusion
If my pastor was using tithes to pay for business class tickets, I would leave, not applaud
If my pastor pandered to the lbgtq agenda and include ‘your sexuality’ in any sort of list, I would leave.
A very well-prepared speech to appease the media and stop the bleeding; our church is not allowed to play music by Hillsong, Jesus Culture, or Elevation church because of the Heresies being thought in those churches...Please be as the Bereans of Acts 17, search the scriptures for yourself and test what they're teaching.
@UgOtVaNdIJkEd Yes they actually do, a different jesus.
@UgOtVaNdIJkEd I do respect your education in these areas, and I don't claim to be smarter by any means, but it's my belief that the prosperity gospel and modalism are a different gospel than what Paul taught. When you buy their albums or sing their music, you are financially supporting questionable theology at best, and heretical theology at worst.
Not only heretical theology, but also the huge merchandizing opportunity of “music ministries” like this is a very corrupting influence. It’s also an attraction for wolves and imposters.
An SRA survivor, Fiona Barrett, has alleged Hillsong is a front for a horrific satanic enterprise that is also enmeshed in the Australian gov’t. Given the scandals and m.o. of Hillsong, I find this plausible.
Yes, many churches are now not playing the"worship" music of those 3.
I will never be a part of ANY church that plays their music.
Does this mean my money will be going into legal fees..? Or on napkins? DISGUSTING !!!!
This dude has danced around the issues they have.. he's validated travel costs but what about that extra spending on clothes watches etc??
Organized religion is harmful to human society
Organized religion, specifically the main three monotheistic religions (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) cause more harm than good to human society and individual people.
Religion causes conflict between people. Almost everyone would agree that conflict is bad, since it causes physical and psychological harm to people. Conflict is more likely to occur when there are organized groups of people, or “tribes.” This is because each group has a cause they are fighting for, and people they are fighting against. In the case of religion, this is very evident as people in each religion would fight for their God, and would fight against other religions or against non religious people.
(For the previous point, it is talking more about modern day mistrust between religious and non religious people, not ancient wars)
Religion is based on non substantial evidence. Religious texts outline events which are not supported by our current understanding of the universe. These include the events of creation, various “miracles” performed by a divine being, and contemporary interaction between God and followers, such as through prayer. Although depending on who you ask and what their interpretations of the religious text is, some of these problems may be resolved as being merely metaphorical statements, many people also choose a more literal interpretation. Almost every seriously religious person would believe something that is at least partially contradictory to what has been proven to be possible, or is plausible given our current knowledge.
Given that religion accepts statements as knowledge despite them not being able to be proven, this will negatively affect the future choices made by people. One of the most fundamental differences between knowledge with proof and knowledge without proof is that the knowledge without proof is a lot more resistant to change. Think about someone challenging a scientific theory, and comparing it to someone challenging the existence of God. Since our knowledge affects the choices we make, and knowledge that is closer to the truth will cause people to make better choices, it would be better to allow for positive change (as in non religion), as opposed to not allowing positive change (as in religion).
Although there are some positive effects of religion, such as trying to balance wealth between people (such as through charities), the negative effects far outweigh the positive ones.
This seems copied and pasted.
Who wrote it?
Also, only the ignorant speak of "religions" as one homogeneous lump.
Voor een paar preken van een half uur tijdens een conferentie van Hillsong kregen gastsprekers honoraria tot 20.000 dollar betaald, inclusief VIP-behandeling. In Australië hoeven predikanten geen honoraria op te nemen in hun jaarlijkse belastingaangifte. In de VS moeten honoraria echter wel als inkomen worden opgegeven, aldus de Internal Revenue Service.
Verschrikkelijk wat onchristelijk !!!!!!
I remember being part of a church in au.
I was overseas for quite a few years and returned.
I coincidentally met some of the people I had met before at that church and I felt like I'd gone to another place. It was clear they had gone down this type of path.
Still with their mouths they kept saying things like "its all about the Lord" but witht heir actions something else.
It is a problem.
I believe God is fed up with churches trying to proclaim the gospel while they are inundated with Sins and inequities! Why don't ministers get up and talk about what God hates which none of it will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven!
Wow the jigs up really
It says in the bible NOT TO VINDICATE YOURSELF. Simply let your yes be yes and your no be no. Unfortunately this guy doesn't know that bit of scripture.
Hillsong is the church the people want. All those sitting there in the chairs God has given you the desire of your hearts. Corrupt self seeking leaders who have never been in the presence of God. The worst part is that those sitting there in the audience cant even tell if the man on the stage has ever been in the company of God.
What a mess.
2 quick ways to save (1) travel economy not business - the plane lands at the same time! (2) do more local work, no need for planes!
False teachers lead astray those who are barely escaping and those who are unbelievers. This guy attracts them like bees to honey because there is flesh appeal.
How not to do church
I am sorry the media told the truth about our church. Lol. Sooooo brave.
Phil is a very genuine pastor. I am greatful for him.
Unbelievable gaslighting! This is appalling
This whole "apology" is so strange to me...
Phil starts by acknowledging something is wrong and needs to be changed while saying he wasn't aware of anything and yet takes full responsibility (?) It's more than likely he knew at least some of the stuff going on and did absolutely nothing about it, presumingly because he benefited from this whole situation one way or another
He then attacks the person who made all of this public and made everyone aware of what's going on, and then says they could've simply just get in touch with Hillsong about the whole situation.
Having attended Hillsong for 3 years myself, I know for a fact that when someone brings a serious concern up they wither 1) completely ignore you 2) refuse to talk about it and/or even look into the issue 3) cut you off completely 4) make themselves look good, even if it involves lying or 5) all of these things at once
Hillsong's history of problems also confirms they try to cover up problems/issues or, as Phil Dooley likes to call it "not cover up but also not expose" (source ua-cam.com/video/2pQocArSxQA/v-deo.html )
The fact Phil also said "God Loves you", "you're still welcome at our church" and other similar stuff along these lines with a big smile on his face while everyone in the room is laughing and smiling also shows a level of immaturity from Phil, as well as everyone who was laughing and clapping.
I also don't understand why Phil is complaining about this person using the government protection, especially when he himself says it was used the right way most of the times beforehand.
I get why Phil and/or Hillsong in general might feel like they got stabbed in the back, but knowing how Hillsong works, I truly believe this was the only way of getting at least something out of this situation. By this I mean that even if Hillsong doesn't manage to change for the better (which I personally don't think will happen any time soon), we at least got some transparency of what's truly going on behind the scenes.
Lastly, if Phil and/or Hillsong wants to save money, why do they keep getting business class flights? I understand they do it for work, but the way Phil puts it makes it sound like business class gets from one place to another considerable faster than everyone else. I've never flown with a plane that had different classes, but aren't they in the same plane? don't they take off and land at the same time? Does business class *really* save you that much time?
For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Roman's 16:18
He couldn’t just speak from the heart? Had to read it?
fear of saying anything wrong that could be legally used against them to hold them accountable
Heart????????????????
I think he is Full of Bull, but I do write down the words of my heart when dealing with major issues. I want to think about how I say what I sincerely feel, to best express it and actually everything I want/need to say. I'm a "wordy" person and can get lost on where I am and what I am saying. In everyday its not an issue. But if it's important, I've even written letters to read to people so I don't say things poorly or ramble.
this sounds like a non apology, essentially an apology for the media attacking them for the evil things they've done and covered up.
Had to write it down but when I’m asking for money and making up prophecy I can do that without notes. What a insincere attempt. Waiting for the if I’ve offended anyone line.
@@gohdux hahahahhaa
@@gohdux now.stop.drop and ROLL
It's interesting to watch the fools who look on at this guy talking and not speak a word or question anything that's being spooned out to them.
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The congregation need to be wise and diligent and wake up to the scam that unfolds before them. They are allowing these scammers to thrive and deceive. Difficult to call Hillsong a Church, their behavior by their actions defines them as a cult.
The best way to debunk is to put out the finances out publicly for the church members to assess. When there is transparency, there is nothing to worry about unless you scam
He also throws himself on the sword. "I wasn't involved in any of it, but I' take responsibility" ....see I'm so honorable and just another victim like you guys, but I'll take the blame like the good person I am. Even if that is true and didn't know what was going on in his own church, he is dang well responsible. He called people to give and was a face of trust while he either was clueless and selling a product he couldn't personally guarantee or he was involved. Either way, he failed.
All a facade
As an intellectual pastor, surely Phill should know that a business class ticket does not take you home quicker, in fact, while you spend 5 times more on the flight, the benefits include luxury food, VIP treatment, luxury seats and an EGO boost. I have been working hard all my life, giving to the church, and never could even think of affording a BC ticket. But here is the thing, even if I could, I wouldn't because I always think of the better that money could do. Phil is sorry for what the people of the church have to go through because of the truth coming out?? But no remorse for what he has done? Not once is he sincerely apologising for the money splashed on him, instead he is playing the victim. This whole situation is making me nauseous. I have sat next to the homeless and poor in Cape town congregation, watching them give a few cents to the church, and for what! So he can own a shiny Cartier watch worth thousands? shame on you guys
Yes. And ALMIGHTY GOD SEES, HEARS AND KNOWS ALL THINGS.
Thank GOD more and more are seeing the truth of this.
'Do NOT fear them. For what is hidden will be uncovered' Math 10:26.
@@AnnieGrace777 Amen…it judt saddens me to have to think 10 times before I give money to the church again. Seems that these mega churches are all the same.
BC allows one to arrive, fresher , ready to go..
These Tares cannot see that the Holy Spirit left their gatherings a very long time ago. When I lived in Sydney, our Youth leaders took us to Hillsong for a few visits. Even though I was very young I instantly perceived that something was not right there. It was a whole lot of running around and having fun. There was VERY LITTLE OF JESUS. It is sad to see how Satan has taken full control of that church. May God snatch the sincere and devout believers from the clutch of these false shepherds.
@@KingdomIsNowthis is seeker friendly worldly bs. Any half educated first grade Sunday schooler can tell that from day 1.
Look up Steve Lawson Voddie baucham RC sproul etc. Sound doctrine that goes by the bible, not our self glorifying no repentance sensibilities.
Clean up in aisle 3. Phil, hand back the watch. Where is Evangelism? This is just revamping the corporation.
He just fed them a crap sandwich. I hope the people in that fellowship hold him accountable for this "sorry, not sorry" moment.
They won't. They're taught to adore their pastors. Pastors are above their congregants, regardless of what they say. Try asking Phil out for a coffee. Can't and won't happen. The pastors don't even hang around off-stage after sermons to chat. Also, they have a stage, not a pulpit. Accountability means agreement in these circles.
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You’ll save millions because Brian and Bobby and staff spent millions on your corporate card
Take a look at poverty in this Nation and stop your ‘stage show’
I hope they will pay back the money , they could start by selling all the houses they try to keep secret that they own................soon everything will be revieled.👁
All generalities, no specifics.
Allegations are "concerning". Not even a remote acknowledgement that they might actually be true. What a meat suit.
It's all about strategies and business teams... Turning the pyramid upside down. I failed to hear about people's character becoming Christ like and relationship building.
Again??! Sick and tired of hearing about stuff like this! Proper process? Proper process means to not do let it happen in the first place!Interesting the pastor doesn’t talk about repentance!!!!!!
Asking Compassion International to give Hillsong 1 million a year to be in your conferences is absolutely wrong. Its wrong. Own it & ask for forgiveness for the total greedy business that Hillsong became.
Absolutely disgusting behaviour. How do they even call themselves Christians?
Happened at other conferences in the States as well
Just waffle blah blah blah utterly despicable… the horse has already bolted no good shutting the stable door 🚪 the question to ask is what is the collateral damage the hill song brand has caused ….
Mr Wilkie, you are welcome to attend any of our services and give us your hard-earned money ................ trust us, we will use it honorably .... enriching our lives the way Jesus would want us to as preached in his Gospel of Prosperity.
Build your Mission on God's Mission and not on Health and Wealth .
That's just part of the problem with megachurches, look @ the ARC churches who once were very closely affiliated with Hillsong. Glad I got out when I did 10 years ago
Australia do your frickin jobs & keep investigating these charlatans !!!
I travel business class because I need to work. I work on every flight I go on and I never travel business class. It's simply easy to get your laptop out and do work in ecomony class. What an ego and a lack of simple understanding of life.
Is it a matter of "A fish rots from the head down "or "Fish begins to stink at the head, not the tail"?
He didn't know? Lies.
@UgotVanDijked he was at Hillsong Sydney from the late 80's until the about 2010. He's not naive. Just wondering why you think he's a protected species?
Wow… I just keep hoping to see Godly repentance when corruption is exposed. But instead another round of “I’m sorry the media is…”, “the never came to us but went to the authorities instead.”, “I’m so important I need to spend your tithe money on business class because I deserve it”…. No apologizes. No ownership. Just showing that their even worse than I thought…
Nailed it
Instead of a non apology- cue the band and sing “non, je ne regrette rien”
Is there any real ‘pastors’ at Hillsong?
Most of them left a long time ago.
how much for your hair stylist and outfit?
My heart breaks for the genuine followers of Christ in this church/corporation. Like any corporation that gets exposed for unlawful behaver they send out the 'clean up' crew who paint themselves as 'victims' , and the person who exposes them as the 'bad guy' but adding on the end that Jesus loves him. The thing is that people who have spoken out about Hillsong in the past have not only been stalked but intimidated by Hillson's protection team. There is no way that this person would have been able to go to hillsong directly with this matter. Good on him for using parliamentary privilege to expose this. I wonder if he will be 'suicided' for rocking the boat. The Lord himself is cleaning out his house, it is not an attack from the devil.
Christianity has always been a grift, from the very beginning, half of Paul's letters are forgeries look it up. It's no surprise that intellectually vulnerable people will be victim to Grifters in a system built on imaginary nonsense.
Yes, Natalie Moses downloaded all those files and passed them onto Andrew Wilkie, I'm a big fan of them both.
Don’t know why good people are still there. The leadership has already been exposed for what they are a long time ago.
Take from the poor, line your pockets. Hope you burn.
The Lord is tipping over the tables in this 'temple'
No more Hillsong
Only John McArthur is allowed to fleece the flock..
How dare you criticize the Great, Almighty Johnny Mac, the Pope of Calvinism! Lol 😂
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What garbage! How has John MacArthur fleeced anyone? Tell me some specifics.
@@tomy8339 I don't know if he has. I didn't make the initial comment, though he does live a pretty comfortable lifestyle while criticizing other Pastors for being wealthy. He has looked the other way while abuse has gone on in his church ⛪ for decades and even publicly shamed a woman who a victim of abuse and has never apologized for it to this day even when being called out to do so and make things right by one of his elders
@@shawnlusby1538 Yes. There is one incident involving that woman that is questionable. He may be "comfortable" but he's hardly in the same league of lifestyle as Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland etc.
One questionable incident in 50 years of being a senior pastor.
Some of you will have to do better than that.
Phill run the ship is sinking
the tithes should be going to the poor Phil, not to your business class lifestyle, would Jesus take the poor money and fly business class with someone elses money? charging Compassion $1 million to have a stand at your hillsong conferences?
There are plenty of poor people in their church that could use a hand up in life.
Birds of the same feather flock together and it's not the flock belonging to the Christ of the Bible
Hahahahha. “You know as much as I do”. I doubt that. Otherwise you would have published more information. Second, you don’t line up financial structure based on your “decided culture and structure” as you explained. You outline your financial position based on current laws.
Unfortunately these folks keep fooling many… but many more see right through that… at the end of the day… shallow gains can get you only so far…
Did he say he travels business class always? Is that first class there?
It's not first class but business class is much more expensive than business class in the northern hemisphere. 3-5 x more expensive than economy class depending on the airline. First class is astronomically priced for the average person.
I wonder if this man and their churches would hold the same generous standards of context patience and understanding to their fellow catholics? Also you'll note that the Hillsong Church Mission is not actually the mission Christ gave in scriptures.
He is only apologizing because they got caught.
He needs money for a haircut
You dont expect them to get real jobs! 😂😂
Agreed. I'm so tired of seeing supposed "youth fashion" worn by pastors over 30 years old. They look like clowns. I don't find it relatable as they believe it is, I find it a bit disrespectful to people whose lives are full of real responsibilities. Comes across as needing an ego boast. Just my opinion, of course.
Exactly and black clothes - why? To highlight the blonde hair?
PRIDE.
What lies..Thank God I saw through this lies in 2015..millions later unfortunately 😢
Ohh what it took to get to this point though...
And money making, bull you know more than your letting on, if you what to change the future stop being a prosperity church,
Not ex p.m are you?
Just lost all respect for the new head of H / S. Empty words. The comments re Alan Wilkie we’re gutless and sarcastic. He complains that Wilkie used parliamentary privilege but Dooley used pastors privilege to take verbal revenge. Whistleblowers are courageous. “IF” we’ve been doing things wrong, they will be Fixed! Not if you are still saying IF it won’t. First step towards forgiveness is acknowledging the wrongdoing - not saying if. There is no if H / S !!!
I used to like the Dooleys and they seemed pretty genuine. I'm surprised they are still working for Hillsong after all the scandals. Why stay loyal to something that is such a contradiction to true Christianity? Hillsong is all bells and whistles with a bit of Jesus thrown in. It seems like they have sold out to the perks and solid salary.
Love how he says your church our church but not christs church. They're a bunch of hypocrites
This is actually what "Judge not lest you be judged" means. In ancient Israel, all men wished they were the Rabbi in their town, because he had prestige and privileges; And the alternate name for the Rabbi was "the judge"...
People think that being a megachurch pastor is such a lit job, and psychologists say that narcissists are known to move aggressively toward chairs of high authority in both politics and religion.
But look at the bullshit you very well might deal with by becoming a "somebody" in church. Often these men end up with the perfect opposite of prestige. They end up with a putrid name for the rest of their lives.
Seriously, if you want to lead people, you'd better make sure you don't have a log in your eye (which meant you were well acquainted with fasting and repentance for years before ministry).
If not, then forget about it. You're better off being "nobody" in church, and a regular guy in the world, than to rightly be seen as a weasel by practically everyone.
No, it's not. We're not to judge whether someone is ultimately saved or not; we are ABSOLUTELY called to make judgements within the body of Christ; see 1 Corithians 5:
12It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. 13God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”
@@sammyze3213 amen
@@sammyze3213Amen. So many people are so quick to jump up and say "Judge NOT!" When they have no clue about what the Bible actually says about Judging. 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Perfect comic relief would be if someone pushed the 16k skateboard 🛹 out behind him. 😅
smh disgusting... its ok to have some talking points so you dont lose your train of thought or forget to mention anything.... but he's literally staring down THE WHOLE TIME and reading...nothing he says is from the heart. Repulsive. Tired of these bad apples ruining Yeshua's name...
Here is my question..... Feed the poor, how do you fly business class to poor countries and preach there? Help widows and orphans, is that being done..... He who helps the poor, lends to the Lord. Now this has been brought to the light, you guys have alot to answer for, repent and start supporting missions. Your esteem and pride in how important your are just blows my mind. Repent repent repent you greedy, self centred leaders. Imagine what you could do with those millions....Jesus had no place to lay his head.... The gospel does not cost millions, helping the poor does. There are missionaries sitting in your pews that have a heart for the nation's, are they supported or is it just the elite all knowing elders that get to fly business class to preach a sermon. Your structure and culture needs to be biblical. Not your thoughts or ideas. Your vision needs to be biblical. Wake up Jesus is coming soon! Are your new operational finances called economy class....
You are not an organisation, you are a church, the body of Christ, I think you forgot….
Hillsong have previously claimed that they start churches in places of influence. They don't seek out the poor because the poor don't influence anything. It's sick. Sounds amazing at first -let's influence the wealthy for Christ so that we can change nations. Instead, they hobnob with the wealthy, live wealthy and forget the poor.
1 Corinthians 11:14 KJV
[14] Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
I will NEVER follow a pastor with long blond hair and wears black clothes. This dude loves himself.
this is one of the problems with prepared sermon format in church ... it gives the wolves opportunity to craft their words and their approach and to sling buzz phrases like "we're committed to serve" ... yes, you are committed to serve as long as you can anchor in the wealth of the middle class ... why don't you serve ophans, widows and poor people who CANNOT pay you? have you forgotten Galatians 2 where the men who walked and talked with Jesus gave Paul and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship and DESIRED ONLY THAT THEY SHOULD REMEMBER THE POOR?
That's what happens when you teach narcissistic egotistical teachings. That God is For you at every turn at your bidding. When our salvation comes from Christ for eternal life not focusing on this temporary world
Seemingly written for him. He’s like a CEO. Very odd delivery.
This lady seems very nice. 😁
I wonder who wrote the speech for him? I have spoken before men's fellowships example the Full Gospel businessmen's Association I have had my own men's fellowship breakfast in Lake Havasu City with a hundred men and I did not have a script ever. Don't need one I have the Holy Spirit
Sir, your church and your job perpetuates a scam.
He earns around $700 000 a year his wife $300 000 so a millions a year between the 2 of them like rock stars….they should get a normal wage, like there congregation…
Yes it's God's purpose to have ignorant sheep & starving dogs in Thailand
They are rock stars
Giving godless masses what they want, to make them.feel good about their delusion of self righteousness
@@iacoponefurio1915 wassup? wassup? my niggaz . Welcome to church cowabunga dude I just bought a $16 thousand dollar skateboard 🛹🛹🛹 Truely awesome Narly dudes!!!!!!!
6:54--- THAT WAS A BIG FAT LIE! IF GOD LOVED SEXUAL SINNERS WHY DOES HE CONDEMN THEM? LIARS!
I love it what a typical hypocrite not once did he repent of anything they did everything was we're going to change this we're going to change that it's going to be great keep giving us your money
A quad Venn diagram - good grief
Que vergüenza estas declaraciones con palabras cínicas esto es usar el nombre de Dios en vano. No me imagino ni a Jesús ni a Pablo respondiendo con esa falta de dignidad.
I clearly remember Brian Houston from the pulpit saying," don't ask why l am wearing a gold Rolex, ask why you're not" l'll tell you why not, because l don't have thousands of people giving me 10% of their income. The arrogance is amazing.
tithing has been pushed by the wolves ... the heartbeat of funding church in the NT is cheerful giving and cheerful receiving, anything else becomes manipulation and/or coercian ... the OT had tithe because everyone had their chin up to the bar of the law with all of its rules and parameters
Why do they all have to dress "cool"
6:42 He talks about homosexuality in a way that doesnt suggest the need to change. Hillsong has gone woke. No need to continue watching this further.
I understand how you can read that into it and I wish he had clarified that while we love the people the behavior is still sin, but he didn't necessarily endorse the practice either. Yes, it is hard to give Hillsong the benefit of the doubt on anything these days but we still have to show grace to our brothers and sisters in Christ
What I find problematic is that they use a bogus commitment to inclusion to deflect from their documented greed and financial corruption- which, evidenced by someone saying they’re not going to watch any farther, is obviously working.
@@shawnlusby1538 How come most professed Christians do NOT know the correct meaning of the word "grace" !!! ?? GRACE is THE POWER TO OVERCOME SIN, THE POWER TO STOP SINNING, Romans 6:14; Titus 2:11-12.
Grace is NOT the license to sin, or closing our eyes to sin!
It's because of false definitions like this that the Christian world is getting worse by the day, ever looking like the world and even worse, allowing any type of rubbish in the House of God.
I hope that people who claim to be Christians know that the true God is HOLY and will NEVER allow anyone who condone any type of sin in His Kingdom! Revelation 22:15, 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do not be DECEIVED: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God!!
@@MalaikaLele grace is unmerited favor, not the power to overcome sin. That is sanctification which is a lifelong process that won't be fully complete until we get to heaven. You're getting your definitions mixed up. Grace is definitely not a license to sin but it does let us know that we have an advocate with the Father when we do sin and come to him in humble repentance. While it is good to oppose sin and as Christians we should be doing that, we got to be careful that we don't fall into the trap of legalism and make Christianity into another works based religion. If grace meant we had to completely stop sinning we'd all be in trouble!
He just said Jesus loves them. Do you disagree?🤔
People may call it words to live by. I tend to call it principles to live by or things to consider. Here’s what I believe. The more you fear man the less you will fear God. But the big hit comes when you consider the vice versa.
What a load lies and rubbish from this church....
Come out from the midst of them....find truth..
Wow
It's only fair to listen to both sides of the story . My own view of all this is that there was something seriously wrong for a founding member of Hillsong to be exposed as a child molester that is so wrong and not Christlike at all. Its shameful
All the same there are individual Christian's worshiping at Hillsong that are genuine . And they should not be included in the dreadful things that others from Hillsong are doing
The wealth that the ministers have is unequal to that of the average attendee of Hillsong .
It's a church that needs good clean up. Maybe a start again . With genuine ministers that care .
Hillsong was a good intention paving the road to Hell
But it could change for the better .
Don't be surprised. When you have lied deceived and or misled people for decades it comes out of their mouth so easily and they think nothing of continuing even when they've been caught red-handed
LEAVING it is the answer!!!
Thank you for HillSong and the Dooleys for what they have done in South Africa and my family.
There is a saying, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PERFECT CHURCH DONT JOIN BECAUSE AFTER THAT IT WILL NOT BE PERFECT ANY MORE.
Do not judge because we will be judge accordingly.
You give because THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND GOD, what they do with the Giving, IS BETWEEN THEM AND GOD.
LET GOD BE THE JUDGE.
Much love everyone🙌🕊️🍞🍷💛
if you believe in god, shouldn't you be giving glory to Him and not to these awful grifters??!
Sonia, we are allowed to hold leaders accountable, it’s biblical, look it up….
The 'cliche' of looking for the perfect church is another form of control.
What we look for is if they preach the TRUTH of GOD'S WORD not their abbreviated version of the untruthful prosperity rubbish.
GOD SAYS TEST ALL THINGS.
And your 'the giving is between them and God.
Sure...it is.
But the type of giving in hillsong is to THEMSELVES.
And it's complete MANIPULATION.
AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!
Check out your idolatry of these people and the brand name of hillsong!
Christ actually tells us to be perfect as our Father in Heaven in perfect. Why do we accept such a low standard from these organizations who claim to follow Christ? Truth telling isn't judgement. A judgement is when you make a statement of condemnation in reaction to an observed truth. Eg: they steal money and deserve to go to hell. You have to call out the stealing (observation) but it's not your job to condemn and punish (say what they deserve). Please get some wisdom.
Whaaaaaat???? Wkae up!
This is not the entire message. It's about an hour long. Watch that before you comment on a 15 min segment!
We only need 15 minutes to know that they don't represent Jesus
I was so disgusted I couldn't even finish watching - we all know what hell song is. We've known for years, and now it's all crashing down! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻