Absent from the body... Understanding 2 Corinthians 5:8

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  • @windycitystevo
    @windycitystevo 4 роки тому +92

    Isn’t it amazing how certain verses get twisted... then get cemented into peoples minds then presented as factual... smooth job Lex! 👍

    • @bradburt38
      @bradburt38 4 роки тому +2

      Yes seem to always misuse 1cor 5 :8 replacing and with in not using any clear simple vrs like only God has immortality we won't put on immortality till resurrection

    • @atomicbong7597
      @atomicbong7597 2 роки тому

      Pragmatic ambiguity - skewness and distortion is not a groupthing - but a flaw of mine - I AM.

    • @Pugilist928
      @Pugilist928 Рік тому +1

      Philippians 1
      21For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
      22But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell.
      23For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better.

    • @PhantomNites
      @PhantomNites Рік тому +1

      What about Lazareth, Abraham and the rich man? They didn’t soul sleep after death.

    • @OurSavior-xr3yc
      @OurSavior-xr3yc 7 місяців тому

      ​@@bradburt38Amen

  • @eldarmoraru9945
    @eldarmoraru9945 4 роки тому +13

    Thank you for sharing! I’m a Christian discovering Torah and it’s amazing how many simple things we misunderstand.

  • @MyJesusSaves
    @MyJesusSaves Рік тому +4

    Hallelujah! When I learned this truth it was a blessing and even now it's sweet like honey as if I'm hearing it for the first time. Thank you for this video and praise God for the truth!

  • @AMessengerofTruth
    @AMessengerofTruth Рік тому +8

    When I read 2 Cor. For the first time and got to chapter 5, having read it in context, I knew everyone quoting that verse is misusing it.

    • @michaelnewzealand1888
      @michaelnewzealand1888 2 місяці тому

      Yes it helps to read the whole book or at least a chapter or two to see the context. Unfortunately we live in a "verse for the day" culture.

  • @josephbelcher8990
    @josephbelcher8990 2 роки тому +6

    I used to believe differently, I found thru prayer and reading the scripture that what I believed was different than the truth. So glad the lord enlightened me. The scripture is so much clearer now that the truth is revealed. Good teaching.

  • @Mojo32
    @Mojo32 11 місяців тому +10

    "I can do all things through a verse out of context."
    😂

    • @cryptojihadi265
      @cryptojihadi265 10 місяців тому +2

      and misquoted.

    • @montananana2869
      @montananana2869 5 місяців тому +1

      I have this coffee cup !!

    • @Mojo32
      @Mojo32 5 місяців тому

      @@montananana2869 Awesome! I love quoting this regularly lol

  • @normangengen3007
    @normangengen3007 4 місяці тому +1

    AMEN ...thank you brother for this presentation...I told a pastor once to stop misquoting this verse...I explained to him same like ur presentation...I was shocked wen the pastor said we do it because we want to comfort the bereaved family...my words to that pastor...pls comfort them with the TRUTH not LIES...Amen...

  • @ronne8715
    @ronne8715 4 роки тому +25

    Please anyone pray for me I'm not doing we'll...
    I'm going through stuff.
    Thank you

    • @katejohnson5083
      @katejohnson5083 4 роки тому +2

      Ron ne Just prayed for you, brother. May God comfort you always.

    • @ronne8715
      @ronne8715 4 роки тому +2

      @@katejohnson5083
      Thank you
      This means a lot to me
      God bless you

    • @stillrepenting2422
      @stillrepenting2422 4 роки тому +1

      I pray for you Ronny.I'm not where I want to be on my walk but I have a good feeling we will be alright.Godspeed

    • @desdurian2877
      @desdurian2877 4 роки тому +1

      @Ron ne Just saw your comment today. I just prayed for you. Let the power of prayer reached you. Yahusha will comfort and help you. Just have faith in Him. Yah bless

    • @wanguikiili
      @wanguikiili 4 роки тому

      May the Lord comfort you and grant you your heart's need. I pray that you will cast the stuff to Him for He cares deeply for you.

  • @thesaintmustwalkalone708
    @thesaintmustwalkalone708 2 роки тому +7

    People want to believe they go straight to heaven when they die so we have something nice to say at funerals. They also say they are an angel looking down on us, or that they watch over us, and doing other things in heaven that are not Biblical. They also believe their pets on earth are with them. It's all about feelings and what they want, not what Scripture says.

    • @MVS77MVS
      @MVS77MVS Рік тому +1

      That answer is spot on!! If someone reads the bible without any of man's traditional teachings, one would never come up with the doctrine of heaven.

    • @GwenClyde-iv7et
      @GwenClyde-iv7et 4 місяці тому

      Those poor people need to go seek & find understanding real fast cause they will certainly be trapped with Satan trying to dig their way from beneath hoping a ladder is available to climb the stairwell of Heaven.😢😊.

  • @TandZAptLife
    @TandZAptLife 4 роки тому +19

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I needed to hear this. I've heard a lot from pastors and people state, when a Christian dies! they are in the arms of Jesus or say they are with Jesus.
    I never believed that and I think it was a struggle because I believed we all received our gift of immortality as believers at the same time when Jesus returns. Am I saying that correctly? I believe I am. Thank you for sharing this video.

    • @JW-rn5ee
      @JW-rn5ee 2 роки тому +1

      Yes you are correct and on the right path. See Acts 2:34 for solid confirmation. Nobody's going anywhere until the 7th trumpet (shofar) sounds and Yahusha returns to gather his predestined elect family members. No, there is no rapture that precedes his return. The "dead" rise first when the living are still in the flesh on the Earth and they rise next.

    • @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038
      @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 Рік тому

      @@JW-rn5ee Who is Yahusha ? 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
      11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
      12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
      13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
      14 And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it.

    • @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038
      @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 Рік тому

      @@JW-rn5ee Matthew 22:27-33 In the Resurrection they are like the angels in heaven how ? Is Abraham, Isaac and Jacob alive living in heaven? Mathew 22:27-33
      27 And last of all the woman died also.
      28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
      29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
      30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
      31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
      32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
      33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

    • @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038
      @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 Рік тому

      @@JW-rn5ee The Dust return to the earth and the spirit return to God who gave it : And many of them that sleep in the Dust of the earth shall awake Ecclesiastes 12 verses 7
      7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
      Daniel 12:2
      2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
      1 Corinthians 15:51-52
      51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
      52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
      1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
      13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
      14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
      15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
      16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
      17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words

  • @miken8820
    @miken8820 3 роки тому +6

    You do good at explaining stuff. Thank you for helping us on our path.

  • @fatherforgivemeiamasinner2107
    @fatherforgivemeiamasinner2107 4 роки тому +7

    I agree death is a sleep into judgement day

    • @ccccen
      @ccccen 2 місяці тому

      me too, all will be awaken to the judgement book of life or death (eternal death)

  • @TimeForElohim
    @TimeForElohim 4 роки тому +9

    I always suspected that scripture was misquoted, but I didn't know how to prove it. Great video Lex!

    • @joshdakwa4712
      @joshdakwa4712 3 роки тому +1

      All I know is that scripture is scripture my friend👀

    • @joshdakwa4712
      @joshdakwa4712 3 роки тому +3

      No disrespect to lex but the video can’t and doesn’t prove anything. Scripture is scripture. It’s dangerous to try and prove elsewise👀. Just remember what Jesus said to the theif on the cross before he died people. 👀👀

    • @kimmiecatluvinwilson2139
      @kimmiecatluvinwilson2139 Рік тому +1

      It truly does take a deep seeking of God's kingdom in order to see the FULL,unhidden picture.

  • @MrCarp2
    @MrCarp2 4 роки тому +9

    I disagree completely. When you die, your spirit goes to be with the Lord. It doesn't stay in a rotting body in a grave. It goes on one side of the gulf or the other awaiting the Millennial. You have to look up the original Hebrew.

    • @dunihern
      @dunihern 3 роки тому +1

      @Pr.incorporated facts , my grandfather saw Jesus before passing away 🙏🏽❤️

    • @billdavis5483
      @billdavis5483 Місяць тому

      You mean the original Greek? Who knows Greek?

  • @1erinjames
    @1erinjames 4 роки тому +5

    I always took that verse to mean that when we are keeping ourselves from the desires of the flesh, that we are walking in His Way. Idk that im right, but thats along the lines of what it means to me.

    • @susanddavis2457
      @susanddavis2457 4 роки тому +1

      I was thinking same thing all this time

    • @onelastchance648
      @onelastchance648 9 місяців тому

      Most who misunderstand this scripture believe in a pre-trib rapture. Yikes

  • @kevindevlaeminck7756
    @kevindevlaeminck7756 2 роки тому +2

    I always asked the pastors or preachers : what happened to the resurrection or the judgement, we just skip that now ? Does it make sense to go back and get your resurrected body when you're already in Heaven? and why be judged...you made it Tickle the ears and make it easy and happy..throw in my crowns and rewards too

    • @MVS77MVS
      @MVS77MVS Рік тому

      You have asked good questions. Anyone teaching that the dead go to heaven before the resurrection are either deceived, or a deceiver.

  • @truthseeker7005
    @truthseeker7005 4 роки тому +15

    Holy mackeral! Ive read that a thousand times and thought it said "absent from the body IS to be present with the Lord"

    • @jk7197
      @jk7197 3 роки тому

      @Rambling Ranger duh? Why be grumpy?

    • @dthomas1001
      @dthomas1001 3 роки тому

      Me to

    • @michaelmccaffrey2731
      @michaelmccaffrey2731 2 роки тому +1

      Sometimes we have to read the whole chapter or a few chapters to understand the point

    • @JW-rn5ee
      @JW-rn5ee 2 роки тому

      People are replacing the AND with an action verb IS. That is not what happens. See Acts 2:34 KJV.

  • @sek4110
    @sek4110 3 роки тому +9

    You did not address these words from Paul "21For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. 23For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: 24Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. "
    Paul said to DIE IS GAIN to be with Christ.

    • @916bigAl
      @916bigAl 3 роки тому +5

      Yes it is but it’s not saying it’s an immediate afterlife

    • @SarahBuxton-dt1xc
      @SarahBuxton-dt1xc 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@916bigAlIt could seem immediate though because after sleep we will wake up and have no sense of time in between.. so essentially the immediate time we perceive as time past will be immediate, that's how I think of it.

    • @michaelnewzealand1888
      @michaelnewzealand1888 2 місяці тому

      @@SarahBuxton-dt1xc absolutely. It's kinda like (not exactly) going to sleep at night and the next thing we are awake in the morning.

  • @littlemama3957
    @littlemama3957 Рік тому +2

    Wow....yes this is the mostquoted eerse for proof of rapture..thankyou Lex for clearing that one-up...am starting to realise only a part is pushed...

  • @RaphaEl-pn8ue
    @RaphaEl-pn8ue 4 роки тому +11

    I think “For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain” verse could’ve precept with these verse as well or maybe I missed it. It came to mind while Lex was teaching

  • @rebeccah3715
    @rebeccah3715 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for this. I have heard this misquoted so many, many times and have never understood it in context with Paul's other verses in I Corinthians; until now. This helped so much.

  • @916bigAl
    @916bigAl 3 роки тому +6

    Excellent breakdown Lex. I find Christins get irate when being told souls aren’t immortal. All the paganism they practice has spoiled their minds.

  • @cloudb.1071
    @cloudb.1071 4 роки тому +5

    Great video Lex! 😦🙏♥️

  • @MrCarp2
    @MrCarp2 4 роки тому +5

    I notice he makes false statements then he leaves and doesn't come back and answer questions. Like Paul and others have said in the old and new Testaments, “To be absent from the body IS to be present with the Lord”

    • @GeorgeAndreson-f4d
      @GeorgeAndreson-f4d Рік тому

      You're taking that out of context

    • @okorebe
      @okorebe 13 днів тому

      Paul didn't say that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. He said that we are pleased to be absent from the body AND to be present with the Lord.
      II Corinthians 5:8 NKJV
      [8] We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.

  • @rodneyhoyup3219
    @rodneyhoyup3219 4 роки тому +16

    Excellent, I was just talking with a few people about that misquote. Good teaching.

  • @hughsmyth9527
    @hughsmyth9527 Рік тому +4

    A 1000 years are like a day to God, so your next waking moment could be at His Second Coming.

    • @ccccen
      @ccccen 2 місяці тому

      No, for all those that made it to His coming will be fore the generation that was still alive when here comes or gets here, we the dead will stay asleep till judgement day when books will be open and we come to know if we made it a life of a spiritual body and eternity. What we most think of is how long will this waiting will be as we sleep for a long time. I know it says '' how long Lord and the lord say ''just a bit longer'' we all wonder how long is this '' bit longer will be.

  • @deborahthompson5041
    @deborahthompson5041 3 роки тому +3

    What an easy to understand lesson. Thank you so much.

  • @user-atonewith
    @user-atonewith Рік тому +5

    Great video Lex; simple, concise and right! The scholars and pastors have fleeced generations of the flock with their 'needed' interpretations of this verse about what happens when we die. Combined with so many other needed changes in so many other verses, well, they have created many religious religions. We all care what happens when we die and are being lied to about it; an inside job! The apostate church is being exposed and a warning is always given. Alot of repenting needs to be done; from the top on down. Have mercy on our souls! Blessings to you, brother!

  • @elizabethmartineau-marshal341
    @elizabethmartineau-marshal341 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for teaching the truth.

  • @sheepandwolves8979
    @sheepandwolves8979 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for answering my questions

  • @thomasranjit7781
    @thomasranjit7781 4 роки тому +4

    Excellent brother.. God bless

  • @brit7202
    @brit7202 4 роки тому +4

    Lex, I am shooketh...

  • @suelincoln2693
    @suelincoln2693 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart, at this very moment it is just what I needed from our Saviour . God bless

  • @spirit-walkerwaters4521
    @spirit-walkerwaters4521 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for sharing this truth. Other preachers/teachers of scripture get it all confused, and it makes a corruption of scripture, and contradiction that confuses people

    • @PhantomNites
      @PhantomNites Рік тому

      What about Lazareth, Abraham and the rich man? They didn’t soul sleep after death.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 4 місяці тому

      ​@PhantomNit Parable

  • @seekingthetruth9896
    @seekingthetruth9896 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you! Only yesterday a friend shared this verse with me and I told him that I would check it out.
    I shared your video with him. Your thoughts on the video have brought clarity for me. My friends explanation is different.

  • @timurzhanify
    @timurzhanify 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for proclaiming the resurrection. The Lord graciously transformed my paradigm just over 10 years ago and now the Bible makes so much more sense to me. The puzzle pieces fit together, from Genesis to Revelation. You really learn about the cost of discipleship when you proclaim the truth about death, resurrection, and conditional immortality, though!

  • @lr1698
    @lr1698 4 місяці тому +1

    The Bible is a book about a created God being the central character and what men thought about the world around them. The word of men.

  • @getx1265
    @getx1265 4 роки тому +3

    Good lesson Lex! Thanks!

  • @jalontf2
    @jalontf2 10 місяців тому +1

    So when Paul told the Philippians he was torn between continuing his earthly ministry and being with the Lord, what was he talking about?
    Also, Jesus telling the convict beside him that today he would be with him in Paradise?
    Also Paul's visit to Paradise (the third heaven)?

  • @daisyfryberger7746
    @daisyfryberger7746 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you Lex for giving us understanding.

  • @cheryls3777
    @cheryls3777 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you.

  • @mikemccomis7146
    @mikemccomis7146 4 роки тому +4

    I've been in church for years and have seen much of the bible taken out of text . And when I hear people say every body intercept the bible differently that is a cop out . The bible is put right in front of your face . Read it and take it as it is . And that is hard to do .

  • @BrianAz
    @BrianAz 4 роки тому +4

    I don't agree at all. You are twisting the scripture just as badly as the ones you accuse of doing the same thing. You are talking about two independent events, where your spirit goes when you die and what happens to your body at the resurrection! Otherwise, Jesus lies to the thief on the cross. Luke 23:43, "And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” The thief's body will not be with God, but his spirit will be until the resurrection.

    • @theworshipsinger
      @theworshipsinger 3 роки тому

      Jesus said to the thief, “I tell you the truth today-- you will be with me in paradise.”

  • @tkcdac
    @tkcdac 4 роки тому +7

    I appreciate this teaching. Have taught it many times, but know this... no one will accept it if their heart wants to think anything else.
    People want to be comforted rather than hear that they will have to wait. It is frustrating, but just a simple study on human nature.

    • @megan1445
      @megan1445 3 роки тому +2

      That is so true. It's devastating to think of my dad as ceasing to exist but I'd rather know the truth then be comforted

    • @tkcdac
      @tkcdac 3 роки тому +5

      @@megan1445 Fear not. Just like David, Daniel, Abraham, your dad exists, but are sleeping. The next thing they know is the call to judgement in 1000 years. Take heart, you will be together again if you both gave your heart to Christ.

    • @megan1445
      @megan1445 3 роки тому +1

      @@tkcdac Thankyou so much 💙

    • @kimmiecatluvinwilson2139
      @kimmiecatluvinwilson2139 Рік тому

      Can't deny the judgement and opening of the books though.

    • @3Hypostasis1God
      @3Hypostasis1God 11 місяців тому

      What terrible terrible and twisted teaching. The scripture does not teach this at all, neither did the early Church teach this. The teachings and twisted understanding about the spirit of a person not being in the lresence of Christ waiting for the resurrection is completely foreign to scripturecand the universal teaching of the Early Church.

  • @s.t.d.r.a.s.h.3703
    @s.t.d.r.a.s.h.3703 4 роки тому +2

    THANK YOU

  • @otiswong2091
    @otiswong2091 2 роки тому +3

    Amen, it is sad to see that people are deceived into not thinking that the bible tells us that soul sleep is true.

  • @reelinreggie6757
    @reelinreggie6757 11 місяців тому +2

    What about Ecclesiastes 12:7? It says the spirit returns to God.

  • @michaelmccaffrey2731
    @michaelmccaffrey2731 2 роки тому +2

    Exactly. There is and have been many false teaching. We can't just quote a single verse. Sometimes we have to read the whole chapter or a few chapters to understand the point

  • @ynzmadeleine
    @ynzmadeleine 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the book, Lex, blessings!

  • @Mrm1985100
    @Mrm1985100 Рік тому +2

    If you read all of 2 Corinthians chapter 5 it's clear he's talking about the resurrection.

  • @georgeblevins3391
    @georgeblevins3391 7 місяців тому

    We put on Christ our covering.

  • @keishapryer9800
    @keishapryer9800 9 місяців тому

    Thank you !❤

  • @OlegTirsina
    @OlegTirsina 4 роки тому +2

    @Cole Parker
    If the dead don’t immediately go to heaven, how did Moses and Elijah appear at the transfiguration?
    How can Moses and Elijah have been present at the transfiguration if they are waiting for the resurrection?
    The thief on the cross said “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” 43 And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise. That doesn't look like the thief will be soul sleeping. Does God lie in Holy Scripture? When people are unconscious at death is that eternal life?

    • @claytonbigsby
      @claytonbigsby 5 місяців тому

      3 days later from the cross Jesus tells Mary not to cling to Him because He had not yet ascended so when Jesus tells the thief "today you will be with me in paradise", evidently it is not in heaven because Jesus didn't go there as we see from scripture.

  • @qawii3
    @qawii3 2 роки тому +1

    when Jesus returns " the dead in Christ are raised first and then we that remain shall be transformed and caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air.." We all go up in our new bodies, both us and the previously dead.

    • @MVS77MVS
      @MVS77MVS Рік тому +1

      You have proven that the teaching in this video is true. The dead in Christ are RAISED FIRST", that means resurrected from the ground. The people that have not died yet are also transformed, but not resurrected. Very simple if you had clear thinking, not distorted by unlearned Sunday school teachers.

    • @GwenClyde-iv7et
      @GwenClyde-iv7et 4 місяці тому

      Only if you are a believer is the only way this will certainly happen . And not the dead in the Devil's work that they also gets this opporunity to be
      transformed😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

  • @stevecaswell
    @stevecaswell 4 роки тому +2

    Good words. I shared this video on ShalomTube and set it as featured.

  • @FollowerofChrist1234
    @FollowerofChrist1234 4 роки тому +2

    Hebrews 10:19-22 19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to ENTER the holy place BY THE BLOOD of Jesus, 20 by a NEW and LIVING way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us DRAW NEAR with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
    Can you enter the holy place and draw near to God? Do you draw near to God in your sinful flesh or in your spirit? Is this drawing near made possible by your physical sinful flesh or the blood of Jesus? How then will the death of your physical sinful flesh stop you temporarily from drawing near to God in unconsciousness?

  • @ChristenDome
    @ChristenDome 2 роки тому

    See where you are trying to go, but the why beats me! You are surfing my friend, when the Holy Word requires deep sea diving. +

  • @wesleyogilvie8105
    @wesleyogilvie8105 4 роки тому +4

    2 Peter 3:15-17, And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability.
    I love these teaching videos from Lex!

  • @SDsc0rch
    @SDsc0rch 4 роки тому +2

    well I'll be darned!
    if you read the whole section of scripture in context, that's exactly what Paul is saying!
    just like lex is saying!
    this is fantastic - thank you for teaching this
    (now.... I wonder what implications this has...)

  • @fsdfmsbcxx
    @fsdfmsbcxx 4 роки тому +4

    The dead believers in Christ in the graves wait for the ressurection of their bodies, but their spirit is indeed with the Lord. In other words: The body is the only part which is not redeeemed yet. This will take place at the return of our Lord Jesus Christ, just like it's written:
    "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's *at his coming* (1. Corinthians 15, 22-23 / KJV)
    A human being is not just made of a physical body, but body, soul and spirit (1. Thessalonians 5,23 / KJV)

    • @candicechristian7344
      @candicechristian7344 4 роки тому +1

      Jesus did tell the thief on the cross this day you will be with me in paradise. . Right?

    • @fsdfmsbcxx
      @fsdfmsbcxx 4 роки тому +1

      @@candicechristian7344
      Right.

    • @unlearnthelies
      @unlearnthelies  4 роки тому +3

      I have a video about the thief on the cross as well

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 4 роки тому +2

      @@fsdfmsbcxx
      God used the dust of the earth AND the breath of life (spirit) to form a living soul.
      KJV Genesis 2
      7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
      Then when we die.
      KJV Ecclesiastes 12
      7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
      When someone dies, the dust(body) returns to the earth and the breath of life (spirit) goes back to God.
      The spirit is not a conscience soul without the body.
      Spirit
      Hebrew: רוּח
      Transliteration: rûach
      Pronunciation: roo'-akh
      Definition: From H7306; wind; by resemblance {breath} that {is} a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively {life}
      Job put it this way.
      KJV Job 27
      3 All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;
      So a living soul is the body and the breath of life (spirit of God)
      When one is removed, we are no longer a living soul. We are unconscious in the grave awaiting the resurrection unto eternal life or the second resurrection of unto eternal damnation.

    • @fsdfmsbcxx
      @fsdfmsbcxx 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@godistruth3411
      "When one is removed, we are no longer a living soul."
      It's true that the bible uses the word "Soul" many times for living people, just as we do today (for example: He's a gentle soul...). But it's also true that it uses it for our Psyche. The Soul is what we really are, our inner Being, our Personality, the residence of our Feelings and Emotions. It's exactly what the Psychologist deals with (although the majority of them don't have a solid understanding of what the human being really is, because they have a materialistic world-view based on Evolution and don't believe the bible and so their understanding has not been renewed).
      Here are some examples for the Soul when it refers to our Psyche. All quotes are from the King James Bible (of course):
      1) "And Mary said, My *soul* doth magnify the Lord," (Luke 1,46)
      2) Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my *soul* is even as a weaned child. (Psalm 131,2)
      3) "My *soul* is weary of my life; I will leave my complaint upon myself; I will speak in the bitterness of my soul." (Job 10,1)
      4) "My *soul* longeth, yea, even fainteth for the courts of the Lord: my heart and my flesh crieth out for the living God." (Psalm 84,2)
      5) Praise ye the Lord. Praise the Lord, O my *soul* .
      While I live will I praise the Lord: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
      6)
      The *soul* of the wicked desireth evil: his neighbour findeth no favour in his eyes. (Proverbs 21,10)
      ...and many many other verses.

  • @Pugilist928
    @Pugilist928 Рік тому +1

    Phillipians 1
    21For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
    22But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell.
    23Forfn I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better.

    • @IsaacNussbaum
      @IsaacNussbaum Рік тому

      So, Flex, was Paul talking about dying and going to heaven or was he talking about being translated at Christ's return? ✴ _Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord._

    • @Pugilist928
      @Pugilist928 Рік тому

      @@IsaacNussbaum its quite clear by verse 22 which talks about living on in the flesh so he clealry isnt referring to the second coming.

    • @IsaacNussbaum
      @IsaacNussbaum Рік тому

      @@Pugilist928 Perhaps you are right, Flex. Perhaps Paul was _not_ talking about the second coming. One thing is for absolute certain, however. He was not talking about dying and going to heaven.

  • @FollowerofChrist1234
    @FollowerofChrist1234 4 роки тому +21

    Acts 7:59-60 59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” [PRESENT WITH THE LORD] 60 Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” Having said this, he fell asleep [ABSENT FROM THE BODY].
    Physical body = asleep, Spirit = present with the Lord

    • @jenkinssahayam3872
      @jenkinssahayam3872 4 роки тому

      @wmfivethree you mean to say even jesus doesnt know about oxygen when He said the same words to the father.

    • @phillipbrand4098
      @phillipbrand4098 4 роки тому +8

      Gen 2:7 we are formed from dust and the breath of God/spirit
      Gen 3:19 + Ecclesiastes 12:17 when we die we return to dust and the spirit/breath of life returns to God.
      Ezekiel 36:26 When raised we receive a new body and a new spirit/breath of life.

    • @phillipbrand4098
      @phillipbrand4098 4 роки тому +3

      When Jesus died on the cross and gave up the spirit did he return to the father then and there or just the spirit/breath of life? Or Was he in the grave for 3 day, raise from the grave, preach to the apostles, and then ascend?

    • @michellejohn4701
      @michellejohn4701 4 роки тому +2

      Ya. The Lord recieves our spirit. The spirit is different then the soul. Read hebrews 4:12 . The double edged sword is able to separate soul from spirit. Go read it. This man knows what hes talking about. Christianity has taught us falsely

    • @wendywaddell-hardy9853
      @wendywaddell-hardy9853 4 роки тому +8

      @@Tishri21 Jesus did not go to the Father that day He died. Plus Greek did not have punctuation. He would have SPOKEN it like this: I say to you today, you WILL be with me in paradise. See the difference. Look up Greek punctuation. Look up 100 verses in the Bible on death as sleep. Lots of verses establish this truth. God Bless you!

  • @Sabrina-bv9uw
    @Sabrina-bv9uw 4 роки тому +2

    How am I just now seeing this video!:o

  • @daniellefunderburg9277
    @daniellefunderburg9277 Рік тому +1

    I'm so glad you taught this. I've been saying this.

  • @Godswill_Akin
    @Godswill_Akin Рік тому

    This can be well understood when you study the resurrection of Jesus.. He died and where did he do to?
    He resurrected in a glorious body then where did he go?

  • @scottysurvival
    @scottysurvival 4 роки тому +3

    Great teaching. I always wondered if paul was refering to how we will all be changed in a twinkling of a eye when he was referring to " to be absent from the body is to be present to the lord" verse. Because When I die I might be dead for 300 years, but to me it might be like just waking up after I fell asleep. Not that we die then are with the lord instantly, but it will seem that way. I don't know for sure though. Thanks for the teaching🙂

  • @robjr8774
    @robjr8774 Рік тому +1

    Well said!

  • @galanbrown
    @galanbrown 7 місяців тому

    Excellent!

  • @refinemelikesilver
    @refinemelikesilver 4 роки тому +2

    Crazy how back in bibical times this was just common knowledge

  • @Charles-tv6oi
    @Charles-tv6oi 6 місяців тому

    Also many moons ago i notice were all present with Lord st same time. We shall not All sleep but we shall sll be changed .......new body

  • @a.t.strock2960
    @a.t.strock2960 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to ask if you might do a video that shows the working of the original Temple, and comparing our bodies with it, and explain how we are now the Temple. I’m thinking things like eating meat as the current sacrifices, and whatever other comparisons there are.

  • @seekingtruth1508
    @seekingtruth1508 4 роки тому +5

    The Holy Spirit lives in the body of the believer. When our soul leaves this body the Holy Spirit will be with us forever and we will be cared for until we receive our new bodies not made with hands.

    • @seekingtruth1508
      @seekingtruth1508 4 роки тому +3

      1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
      1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

    • @bernardshand3697
      @bernardshand3697 4 роки тому +1

      Seeking Truth, keep seeking because you need understanding of the Scriptures some more. But no problem, keep studying. Why? You said WHEN the soul leaves the body...🤔🤔? Do you have a SCRIPTURE for that? It's a Christian belief that the SOUL or spirit (real person) leaves the body at death and go immediately to Heaven. That's a big fat LIE. Lex taught right. That doesn't happen. What is the SOUL? The ENTIRE man, the WHOLE person or being. One SCRIPTURE is ENOUGH on this:
      And the LORD GOD formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathe into his nostrils the breath of life, and man BECAME a living soul. [Or being, Or person] GENESIS 2:7 KJV
      SOUL is the whole person. Or the LIFE of the person. It's not a separate "thingy" that leaves The Person at death. SOUL IS THE PERSON [ALL that a person is].... So, spirit, soul & body. The ONLY thing that leaves the body at death is the "spirit" or "breath of life". Hope I'm not confusing anyone. Peace

    • @jefflewis9154
      @jefflewis9154 4 роки тому

      @@bernardshand3697 Read this definition for tabernacle in 2 Corinthians 5 : 1 G4636
      Original: σκῆνος
      Transliteration: skēnos
      Phonetic: skay'-nos
      Thayer Definition:
      a tabernacle, a tent
      metaphorically of the human body, in which the soul dwells as in a tent, and which is taken down at death
      Origin: from G4633
      TDNT entry: 13:21,1
      Part(s) of speech: Noun Neuter
      Strong's Definition: From G4633; a hut or temporary residence, that is, (figuratively) the human body (as the abode of the spirit): - tabernacle.
      Now, you tell us if this is not the definition of studying? What does the source say? Clearly says temporary residence. Clearly says the body houses the soul

    • @jefflewis9154
      @jefflewis9154 4 роки тому

      @@bernardshand3697 Also look look up breath of life. Divine inspiration is included in the breath of life.

    • @jefflewis9154
      @jefflewis9154 4 роки тому +1

      @@bernardshand3697 Here's some history for you
      Josephus Antiquities of the Jews book 1 chapter 2
      2. Moreover, Moses, after the seventh day was overbegins to talk philosophically; and concerning the formation of man, says thus: That God took dust from the ground, and formed man, and inserted in him a spirit and a soul.

  • @johnbrown2035
    @johnbrown2035 2 роки тому +1

    Jesus lead captivity captive to heaven. Yes when we die we go to heaven. Our spirit returns to the Lord. Our spirit does not remain on earth.

    • @MVS77MVS
      @MVS77MVS Рік тому

      The breath goes back to God. Everything else remains on the earth until the resurrection of the dead.

  • @mikhailhunter5277
    @mikhailhunter5277 6 місяців тому

    It's crazy how people will take one phrase out of a single verse out of context.
    And if you read the full chaptee, you'll see it's not referring to an afterlife.
    When you die because there is no thought, no concept of time, you're next conscious thought from the moment you die will be in presence of Jesus.

  • @Pugilist928
    @Pugilist928 Рік тому +1

    Revelation 6
    9¶When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
    10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
    11Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

    • @IsaacNussbaum
      @IsaacNussbaum Рік тому

      *"...I saw under the altar...."* Is that what going to heaven is like? Billions of "souls" squished together under a piece of tabernacle furniture 7 1/2 feet square by 4 feet high?

  • @01Autentic
    @01Autentic 4 роки тому +3

    Agreed ! This is my understood to. Shalom from Romania ! Excuse the gramatic, english is not my native language.

  • @notremarchedelafin
    @notremarchedelafin 3 дні тому

    Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the SOOOOUUUULLLLSSSS of those who had been slaughtered for the word of God and for the testimony they had given;
    Rev 6:10 they cried out with a loud voice, 'Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be before you judge and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?'
    Rev 6:11 They were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number would be complete both of their fellow-servants and of their brothers and sisters, who were soon to be killed as they themselves had been killed.

  • @2centsworth766
    @2centsworth766 Рік тому +1

    When we die where does our spirit go? To heaven, or do we sleep in the grave until His return? I hear it both ways and am confused.

    • @jilasptl5906
      @jilasptl5906 Рік тому

      Did you ever find an answer to this question? I’m wondering the same

    • @IsaacNussbaum
      @IsaacNussbaum Рік тому

      Here is what Jesus said about his friend, the one over whom He wept. ✴ _ …“Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead,_ (John 11: 11-14; NIV)

  • @gamegenie11
    @gamegenie11 4 роки тому +1

    Great choice for a teaching brother!

  • @AliveInLove3
    @AliveInLove3 8 місяців тому

    Can anybody explain 2 Corinthians 12:2 in regards to soul sleep ?

  • @JW-rn5ee
    @JW-rn5ee 2 роки тому

    7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7 KJV.
    Another misquoted verse where people say "He that is without sin cast the first stone".
    Nope. It took TWO witnesses to condemn a man. Yahusha was asking for a person present in the crowd that "witnessed" the woman in the act of adultery be the "first" (of the two witnesses) cast the FIRST stone. Of course nobody in the crowd was sinless ... and couldn't witness against her, because they weren't present when it occurred.

  • @jacobw1644
    @jacobw1644 2 роки тому +1

    Well done sir 👏🏻

    • @shadowmist1246
      @shadowmist1246 2 роки тому

      Done what? We die we go to heaven (if we're saved). What does Luke 23:43 say?

    • @jacobw1644
      @jacobw1644 2 роки тому

      @@shadowmist1246 he has a separate video on this

    • @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038
      @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 Рік тому

      @@shadowmist1246 When do they sleep ? 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18
      14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
      15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
      16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
      17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    • @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038
      @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 Рік тому

      Jacob W who is yeshua ?

  • @toliveischrist950
    @toliveischrist950 11 місяців тому

    There are the souls of martyred saints under the altar in Revelation 6:9 so, souls can be in heaven without their resurrection body.

  • @Fullclip777
    @Fullclip777 Рік тому

    I just came from a funeral and the preacher was saying that the lady that died was in heaven, but I corrected him, and he twisted this verse.

  • @peterfrancis3136
    @peterfrancis3136 3 місяці тому

    You do believe that those who have been born again when they die they go to a place of rest right and not heaven itself? Just as non believers go to a place of torment when they die.

  • @FollowerofChrist1234
    @FollowerofChrist1234 4 роки тому +4

    Yeshua's death and resurrection paid for our sins. His work was done after this sacrifice. Since His work was done, what did He do?
    Hebrews 10:12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN at the right hand of God,
    What is Yeshua doing at the death of one of His followers?
    Acts 7:55-56,59-60 55 But being full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus STANDING at the right hand of God; 56 and he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened up and the Son of Man STANDING at the right hand of God.” ... 59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, RECEIVE my spirit!” 60 Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” Having said this, he fell asleep.
    Why would Yeshua go from sitting down in heaven when the payment for sin is completed to standing in heaven at the death of one of His followers? Does Yeshua expect that follower to go into a state of unconsciousness?

    • @aznation4592
      @aznation4592 3 роки тому

      If indeed that’s what Yeshua expects can you except that ?

  • @isaacstropes3091
    @isaacstropes3091 4 роки тому +1

    As usual excellent teaching!

  • @zayithintj9379
    @zayithintj9379 9 місяців тому

    If I may. My understanding of 2 Cor 5 : 8 is different, since I see this teaching of Paul only demonstrates our "DELAY" from one form to the next. Why and how: --- My template here comes from Yeshua's own words in John 5: 24. The person who hears the word and believes Him who sent Him ...(ALREADY) ..... HAS... eternal life and does not come into judgement. Like a seed planted in the ground, the seed in itself ALREADY HAS life contained within it, that LATER germinates into something far more than the seed of itself expresses by it's first appearance. The next template comes from Yeshua's own resurrection. Ask yourself, where is the husk of His body? Did He leave His body in the tomb? No. It was raised but now is incorruptible, the first of many siblings. The same body that could walk through a wall, eat a bit of fish then disappear, and much more, is to be our form some day. Since Thomas could touch that body, it implies that our own bodies will have baryonic matter combined within it as well, albeit with His laws inscribed within us .

  • @916bigAl
    @916bigAl 2 роки тому +1

    I been discussing this with an immortal soul believer in another video. He got triggered when I pointed out this is taught in Hinduism.

    • @MVS77MVS
      @MVS77MVS Рік тому

      The human soul is not immortal. Only God alone is immortal. Eternal life is given after the resurrection. 1 Timothy 6:16 "He alone is immortal"

  • @Charles-tv6oi
    @Charles-tv6oi 6 місяців тому

    Paradise is garden or state of bliss i found. True? Also comas were not used in hebrew etc

  • @gianardofranco3614
    @gianardofranco3614 10 місяців тому +1

    Our souls and spirit enter in a twinkling of an eye, but our new body comes later.
    There is no such thing as soul sleep.

    • @onelastchance648
      @onelastchance648 9 місяців тому

      So everyday is now judgement day in heaven? Even with it explained so simply some still won’t see.

  • @christiecoats33
    @christiecoats33 3 роки тому +1

    I hear this every time someone passes away. And then there are people who say that God needed another angel in heaven and I just want to say something but I just keep my mouth shut. I'm in some women Christian support groups and there's a lot of twisting of scriptures that we hear a lot of. My question is how do I address a person who's arguing concerning the scripture and uses NDE testimonies as proof. I wish you would do a film about that because I just don't know what to say.

    • @916bigAl
      @916bigAl 2 роки тому

      Tell them it’s called Near for a reason. They weren’t dead.

  • @bufficliff8978
    @bufficliff8978 Рік тому

    You show that there's a possibility of a time gap but no text that expresses that gap as doctrine in order for inferences to matter.
    The Catholic dogma of purgatory is also made via inference but is not a doctrine given in scripture therefore the inference has no founding.
    In order for inference to matter the doctrine has to be positively taught--not found through negative evidence

  • @Raeodor
    @Raeodor 19 годин тому

    So what happens between death and Resurrection

  • @grainiac7824
    @grainiac7824 5 місяців тому

    Right the new body is given to the spirit that left when they died. Jihn saw the disembodied spirits of the martyrs in heaven.

  • @cot61ton
    @cot61ton 2 роки тому

    Where does the Holy Spirit that indwells a believer go when he dies?

    • @MVS77MVS
      @MVS77MVS Рік тому

      Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

  • @fishmurse
    @fishmurse Місяць тому

    I feel very conflicted about this. There is way too much evidence that suggests that we are present with the Lord after death. The theif on the cross. The witch of Endor. The mount of transfiguration. Lazarus and the rich man. The martyrs whos souls are under the throne of God in Revelation.

  • @TheHilary49
    @TheHilary49 4 роки тому +9

    This sounds more like what the Pharisees taught. I’m very discerning when I read the Bible. I let the Holy Spirit lead me and your teaching feels wrong. Thank you for your opinion but I’ll stick to the Holy Spirit leading me. If I’m wrong, I’ll be judged as such.

    • @Hannibal_F
      @Hannibal_F 4 роки тому +2

      That's fine and all but what's your argument against what being said in this video and the argument for what you feel like you've been led to believe. In context please, I'm interested to hear your opinion.

  • @robm567
    @robm567 4 роки тому +2

    Oh dear....when David says of his dead firstborn...he shall not come back to me but I shall go to him, where did he go? What was Paul gaining by death? Phillipians 1:23. Who are those pesky martyred saints under the alter in Revelation crying "how long oh Lord until we are avenged? Sorry Lex.....You can't cherry pick

  • @akintunde007
    @akintunde007 4 роки тому +1

    Great explanation Lex.