This is the epitome of a Byronic hero. Rochester is broody, moody, violent, desperate, passionate and sensual in this scene. He throws away societal expectations in this scene with Jane, the constraints of his class have disappeared and the gloves are truly off.
After saying "I'm tired and sick. I need some water" Jane faints in Mr. R's arms. That faint was done very well! She didn't just sink gracefully into his arms...she fainted! He almost missed catching her!
This is by far my favorite Jane Eyre. Timothy Dalton and Zelah play it to perfection. I feel that she is in complete shock and has been traumatized because she knows she must leave the man she truly loves. I feel for them both.
@@EmilyGloeggler7984¿ DE VERDAD TÚ SABES LO QUE ES SOBRE ACTUAR? LO DUDO. QUE NO TE GUSTE TIMOTHY DALTON. LO PUEDO ENTENDER. PERO QUE DIGAS QUE ESTE ACTOR SOBRE ACTUA . PARA NADA. CADA UNO OPINA COMO QUIERA FALTARÍA MÁS.
I love this version he is so real and honest other versions they try to make Mr. Rochester seem nicer and more condensed I think Dalton does a fantastic job
Ciaran Hinds portrays Rochester very close to the book's version. Physically, he was the closest to Rochester: black hair, a "decisive nose", a "colourless, olive face, square, massive brow, broad and jetty eyebrows, deep eyes, strong features," and a "firm, grim mouth". He's not handsome and his temperament is dark and moody, sexually intense, mysterious, emotional, troubled, and arrogant. He's not remotely "nice". Most women don't like his portrayal, which is likely due to him not appearing to be classically handsome and he's borderline brutish when Jane chose to leave him.
I do like this version since it shows how much emotion Rodchester is displaying to downplay the outright affair they were having. Jane is someone who does the right thing by her even if she appears cold and unemotional, while Rodchester is passionate about the wrongs he has done. They’re polar opposites when the truth comes out, affirming to Jane how much they aren’t truly equals in this situation and she needs to leave
@EmilyGreene1984 most people tend to over romanticize Rochester. They forget he is a downright narcissist. He manipulates jane, strings along the other woman, using her as a ploy to get jane to admit her feelings, then tries to hide his marriage and marry jane as quickly as possible, then when the whole thing blows up in his face, first he tries to plead with her, then accuses her of using him for his money.
The best adaptation of Jane Eyre ever! This is the only one I want to see over and over. Both of these actors have embodied their roles and Paul Reade's score puts you right there with them. An excellent interpretation of a love story with morals, intelligence and passion. Well done all around!
I love the moment 0:36 - 0:46. Aside from the sheer sensuality of Dalton's acting as he holds her and delivers his dialogue, Zelah's little touch was great. I love how, just for one tiny, infinitesmial moment, she relaxes, she surrenders and lets herself lean into him before she recovers herself and pulls away.
Timothy's Rochester is best Rochester because he's the only one who gets the dangerous aspect of Rochester's nature down pat. Rochester is still a Byronic figure, and yet most actors choose to leave this part of his character in the dust. I think he's terrific. Definitely my favorite Rochester of all time.
I think Ciaran Hinds version was over the top and just an asshole who I felt no sympathy for at all. They romanticized and sexualized Toby Stephens Rochester too much. I think Dalton’s Rochester is perfect, too. He’s got the somewhat manic depressive, melodramatic, and barely self-controlled temper of the character perfectly. He’s not without sympathetic qualities of vulnerability, self-control, and tragedy though.
I love Fassbender’s rendition but I have to admit that Timothy Dalton wins this one when he’s compared to the book. Fassbender was too sweet and romantic for Mr. Rochester at times, but Dalton just hits the nail perfectly
TIMOTHY DALTON GIVES AN OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AS MR ROCHESTER.I CAN STILL FEEL SHIVERS WHENEVER I HEAR HIS VOICE,IT'S SO MANLY AND CHARMING.HIS POSTURE IS SO ELEGANT AND GENTLE.NOW,THIS IS WHAT I CALL REAL ACTING!
I have rewatched so many versions of Jane Eyre and have always come back to this one, I love it! It's so book accurate and the performances given by both lead characters are so true to the characters portrayed in the book. Dalton is wildly passionate, but so loving, and Clarke is so cool and collected; even though she may seem bored, if you concentrate on her face (hard to with Dalton there, I know) she's really trying to convey all the inner feelings and thoughts of Jane without being overtly dramatic which would be a terribly hard thing to do. Her voice takes a little getting used to, that is true, but she's putting her best into playing a character that has a hell of a lot of inner dialogue and she's not doing too bad a job. (Not as good as Mia Wasikowska, though, she was such a fantastic Jane, if only she was in a better adaptation!) I definitely feel that no adaptation of Jane Eyre has ever really nailed everything, but this one certainly nails the characters and dialogue which is really the most important thing in a romance.
+StrawbeatlePie23 I so totally agree with you. This is the first JE movie I saw in the early 90's. I read Jane Eyre when I was a senior in high school and fell in love with the story. I was always the under dog and I always route for the underdog. This movie is almost like watching a play on TV. I bought this DVD. This is the closest to the actual book. Some parts like her running to him in the field after he had been away but that's just normal of adaptions You know what's interesting I googled her the actress and she sales real estate now in England. I think Timothy Dalton lives in Cali now. He is so good looking and he still looks good for a man of 71. Just think few years later he was James Bond. Sexy man. He has a son by a former girlfriend that had a baby by Mel Gibson you know back when those tapes of him ranting and raving at her. I think she was out for another meal ticket. Dalton didn't marry her either but he's been a good father to his teenage son. I think this is my favorite adaptation. I like it kept close to the book which described Rochester as a muscular built man with thick black hair but average height. Dalton is over 6 feet 1 or 2. In the novel claimed Rochester wasn't the classical handsome of the time but to me that is what I call ruggedly handsome. rowr rowr. Stud muffin!
I completely agree. This adaptation is really amazing. And Mia Wasikowska was a great Jane, if only she had a better script! Same as Fassbender as Rochester.
У Далтона это единственная гениальная роль Рочестер и очень жаль что он не нашел свою Джейн А на счёт женщин. Он всю жизнь гулял изменял бросал И 50годам растеряв свой былой лоск решил завести семью И нашел эту вторую Селину Варанс , история с которой закончилась также как в книге У Бога все на месте Бог дал ему то что он заслужил
I love this story for so long but I only discovered this now. out of all the versions of Mr. Rochester, this one showcase all the things I imagined Mr. Rochester would be when I first read the novel at the age of 15. I am now 37 years old and this scene brought me back the feeling of fear I felt for the character the very first time I've read it. The danger, the desperation, all of it.
I love it when she trips over his foot and he catches her. That's where I always skip up too. I also love it when he says "Roundly and sharply" It sends chills through my spine. And then the part where he's carrying her downstairs and after his story he pleads with her to stay. So romantic! He's my favorite Rochester. My second is Michael Jayston but I haven't decided on the others. Maybe Cieran (MS?) Hinds or Michael Fassbender or Toby Stephens. lol
I agree with you.Dalton managed to capture this change of feelings and emotions of mr Rochester just as described in the book.In his face and voice we can clearly distinguish a heart broken creature and we can do nothing but sympathise with his drama.
I've started other versions of Jane Eyre before, but I never could bring myself to watch them. I like this one too much! :) This is one of my favorite movies! :)
He's supposed to be. In the book, Charlotte Bronte describes Jane as being very small and slight (which is why Rochester often compares her to a fairy) while she describes Rochester as being physically imposing.
OreadNYC but she also described Rochester as being not tall and of average height. He shouldn’t tower over her like this. She’s 5’1 so he should be about 5’8. 6’2 is crazy.
Когда то в юности тоже казалась , что Зила проста и полновата А сейчас я вижу какая она красивая Из всех фото актрисс,с которыми он снимался в фильмах, фото ЗИЛы Далтон поставил на самую верхушку дерева
@@cellowali2865 Dont be so mean, Charles Dance was 51 and very dashing!!!! 😍 And his character was supposed to be several years older than the new wife. And you are right, 2020 Maxim was too young and not mysterious enough. Have reviewed it in my entertainment blog
@@cellowali2865 Kristin Scott Thomas, she was in 'The English Patient' with Ralph Fiennes. Yes, she played Mrs Danvers very well. And as for Rebecca 1997, well not everyone is into the older man-younger woman dynamic, so I understand what you mean. I just wonder how Emilia's mother (Joanna David) must have thought of her performance since she played the second Mrs De Winter herself with Jeremy Brett in the 1979 BBC version. Age gap or not, Emilia and Charles had chemistry.
This is my favourite "I must leave you, Mr Rochester" scene out of all the adaptations, extremely accurate to the book. Though I loved the 2006 version with Toby, I hated the bed scene that replaced this part of the book.
Omg same! I love the 2006, but I was so disappointed they replaced this scene with the bed one. This is one of my favorite parts in the book and frankly I think it is important for part of Mr. Rochester's character. In the 2006 one, he was all passion and temptation by way of lust to Jane. This one and the book portrays Rochester's desire, agony, and fury, and a true weakness, but his manipulation and lack of integrity in this moment.
very truuue! especially when Jane in 2006 didn’t want to hold his hand etc. prior to marriage, how come she is laying in bed with him? It is very believable but it was very out of character for Jane
Yes that faint looked real, good thing he didn't miss !They are a good coupling. I love this and the proposal scenes, esp. the fiery first one the best.
He's actually not trying to pull anything here (in the sense of possibly trying to get her drunk so that he can take advantage of her). In the period in which this story is set, most people viewed wine or brandy as suitable remedies for people who were feeling faint as a result of severe emotional shock such as Jane is experiencing here. They thought small quantities of brandy in particular would stimulate cardiac efficiency which would help make the person feel better and more awake -- and it often was effective, even though there was still a great deal which even medical professionals didn't understand about the workings of the human body.
Well back then in 1848 blond hair/fair complexion was the rage, so he would fit Rochester's not being conventionally thought of as handsome. He also was described though as being athletic with wide shoulders etc. which also would have been viewed as common , like a laborer, not a gentlemen from what I have read of that period.
Only version where virtually the whole scene is presented as the book describes, though one of my favorite lines, "...because, if you won't, I'll try violence," has never been uttered in a filmed version. Someday, perhaps.
Well, in all fairness, that line in this day and age would immediately ruin Rochester as a romantic hero in most women's eyes and make him look more like the villain of a melodrama. Most modern women after hearing that line would be thinking "No, you WON'T, asshole!" and wholeheartedly agree that Jane needs to leave him. That being said, when you evaluate their relationship critically and objectively, the truth is that Rochester actually ISN'T a very good romantic hero at this point even without that line -- no matter how good he thinks his intentions toward Jane might have been -- and it's not until after he loses Jane that he realizes how misguided his actions were.
I know! This version is by far the most faithful to the actual book but u always wanted to hear that line coming out of his mouth, and also him telling her the whole story, not just of how he married Bertha, but his mistresses after that (including Adele's mother)
Personally I think Timothy Dalton and Toby Stephens are the only two men I prefer to play Rochester. They are, in their own beautiful and chaotic ways, Mr. Rochester.
Yes, but they still make a nice pairing and she , unlike other Janes is physically small like in the book.She is very good and has a sad air for the most part untill the end, except during the first proposal. I felt she gave an intelligent portrayl and he is too good for words (and the appropriate age as in the book).
I love this version of Jane Eyre. Timothy Dalton is how I see Rochester in my mind. His voice is what I hear as well. Jane is Zelah. That is not to say the 1997 one with Ciaran and Samantha is not exceptional as well or the 2006 with Toby and Ruth and the 2011 with Michael and Mia. They all have great chemistry. This one however is the closest and most faithful to the book. this scene makes me cry no matter how many times I see it as Timothy is Edward and realizing he is losing the love of his life, his soulmate. I can watch it over and over.
What I want to know is where the servants and Mrs. Fairfax and Adele were. Like, that would have been low key terrifying to be huddling upstairs listening to Rochester yelling and then crying and all that jazz.
When we were reading this book in school, this is the adaption that our teacher showed us as we read it. Granted, that was in 2002 so obviously 2006 Jane Eyre didn't exist yet but yeah. Me being the giant hopeless romantic that I am, latched onto it, and now it's my favorite novel. But this is one of my favorite versions because accuracy and Timothy Dalton *is* and *always will be* my first thought when Rochester comes to mind. Zelah Clarke is also fantastic in her own right, and while they're not my favorite Jane and Rochester chemistry-wise, they're in the top three.
Wow!!!! I have to say I'm a big fan of the 2006 version...I really love Toby's Mr. Rochester...but I'm absolutely astonished with Timothy's Mr. Edward Fairfax Rochester...so passionate!!!! so intense!!!!.... BUT... as well a as Michael Fassbender, I think that Timothy Dalton is too much handsome for the character... In the other hand... that Jane was a doll, right? No crying, no emotions, no acting!!!!!!!! Poor Mr. Rochester :(
the Jane Eyre in the book is meant to be a quiet woman with a very passionate inner self. This scene is exactly how the book intended to portray it - she's falling apart inside but holding strong against his passion trying to break through her resolve. This version is close to the book as any version I've seen. the version with Toby Stephens is lovely n I love it too but it's not like the book at all.
+Kasuni Thewarapperuma Exactly, and because her back story is cut out of the newer versions many don't know or understand the type of person she was or the religious beliefs that motivated her. Zelah did a lovely job.
Total agreement, +louisanna30. In fact, a key scene in the '06 version renders Jane's character unrecognizable as she rolls around in bed with Rochester *after* she's learned of Bertha's existence and the ruined wedding. This is a massive, massive misread of Jane, what sort of person she is, and how she would respond if Rochester tried something like that. It's so terrible.
Though in the grand scheme of things i do prefer the 2006 version... I feel dalton did an incredible job... This scene especially. I prefer this portrayal of the scene compared to the modernized version of toby stephens and ruth wilson
I wish 2006 had been more faithful to the novel with these scenes. Not that I didn't love it but they cut out too much dialogue here! Dalton is amazing. As Toby would have been.
Agree. Had 1983 version had a bit of 2006's expression, lightness and emotions, it would have been perfect. Had 2006 version been a bit more true to book and not so simplified at times, it wolud have been perfect. I like 2006 version, but I must admit I'm impressed with Dalton and Clarke. I think they are well chosen for their roles. The only thing that annoys me a bit are their facial expressions. But for this scene, they are almost the same throughout the whole film - Maybe it's supposed to be so, yet it looks so stiff and unnatural sometimes.
Очень сильная и очень сложная игра,великолепное актёрское мастерство Тимати Но он сыграл так, потому что была именно Зила Ведь у него было много ролей и любовных сцен,но только здесь он так раскрылся,столько страсти,столько нежности Потому что была Зила
He's so wild in this scene...so changeable. One minute he's calm and steely, next minute he's raging and impassioned, then he's all tender sweetness and coaxing persuasion...no wonder she's so "Jesus, bro, get the fuck off me, I can't breathe with your bipolar disorder flailing all over me!"
What's not to like, girls? Quite a lot, actually, when you look at Rochester and his relationship with Jane critically and objectively. Let's face it...Jane would never have allowed herself to develop an emotionally intimate relationship with Rochester in the first place, let alone agree to marry him, if she'd known he was already married. To do so would have put her reputation and entire future at stake -- because governesses usually came from good families and had young girls in their charge, their conduct was expected to be above reproach. If it wasn't, they could very easily find themselves out of a job and unable to get another. Rochester is not really a bad man but he is a rather selfish one in the sense that his relationship with Jane is based on lies he's primarily using for his own benefit so that he won't lose her (even though by keeping her, he would have inevitably hurt her). His intentions toward Jane are generally good -- he clearly has sincere affection for her and wants to please her -- but he's not above trying to manipulate her (using Blanche Ingram to make her jealous). He also assumes that what will make him happy will and should make her happy, but this is a self-serving assumption which doesn't really take her needs and feelings into account. In the end, what Rochester does to Jane is actually not that much different from what his father and brother did to him when they lied to him about his wife's predisposition to mental illness in order to avoid splitting up the family estate. His motive is better than theirs in the sense that he has feelings for Jane and wants to do good things for her...but that isn't enough to make up for the damage it would have done to Jane deep down once she knew the truth.
@Sophie01761 OK, a bit dramatic, sure, but, hey, it was GRACEFULLY done!!! :):):) I wish I could be so graceful even with out fainting! :):):) Thanks for your reply...
But he is toooooo handsome to be a Rochester and she is too old to be a Jane Eyre of 18 years. But, indeed, this scene isn't in the 2006 version. In the book I loved this scene...
I agree that Dalton is too handsome to be Rochester but maybe looks like his would have been considered ugly in Bronte's time, plus he has the heavy features that she describes. I think Dalton and Michael Fassbender are both great Rochesters :)
Timothy Dalton makes a perfectly passionate Mr. Rochester. For the most part Zelah Clark made a good Jane. I loved her passionate outburst and "silent weeping" in the proposal scene of this version. However, in this scene she portrays a very drained and dispassionate Jane. Timothy Dalton is giving it his all, while It looks like Zelah just got bored during this scene, and wants to go and take a nap off set. This Jane didn't even give Rochester a goodbye kiss on the cheek, while saying "God bless you." Maybe, when they shot this Zelah was having a bad day.
Actually, this scene is fairly true to the book. Jane is supposed to be very drained at this point because she's been in her room for several hours and hasn't eaten -- that plus the shock of everything that has happened to her makes her nearly faint, which is why he carries her down the stairs. I think Clark is also trying to depict just how steely Jane's resolve is -- Jane can't afford to let herself feel too much at this point because if she gives into her emotions, she might not be able to do what she knows she must.
@@OreadNYC You're right - Jane's self control and command over her emotions in this scene serves to highlight just how wild Rochester's feelings are at this point. Everything is happening inside with Jane, and outside with Rochester.
I don't like when they try to put their own spin on a classic. Stick with the story, it's a great story and has weathered time (164 yrs.) to still be read today. I can't say much for alot of the popular best sellers in literature right now, but wonder if they will have as many version (plus a play on Broadway) made of their novels or be read still 164 yrs. from now ?
PS.A prosperous, thus desirable gentleman ,didn't look like an athlete, but instead would been a bit out of shape, thus denoting his life of wealth & leisure. People have to consider the the standards of the time in which the story took place when imagining how Jane & Rochester looked. From portraits I've seen I thought both Charlotte & her husband were attractive people, though they might not have been viewed so at that time.
It's interesting, but in the scene where Timothy Dalton carries Zelah in his arms, it is clear that the actress, despite her small stature, weighs more than 50 kilograms. Timothy Dalton is very athletic and strong, but carries her with noticeable effort.
I'm pretty sure the actress is pregnant. I've seen hints in other scenes, but this one has strong evidence. Watch from 51- 53 seconds and see how his hand is placed above her waist as he releases her.
HA! I think this is the most over the top Mr. Rochester I've ever seen. It's hilarious but I really don't care for the woman who's playing Jane, her voice irks me the wrong way. But I love watching this scene for his hilariously Shakespearean performance
This is the epitome of a Byronic hero. Rochester is broody, moody, violent, desperate, passionate and sensual in this scene. He throws away societal expectations in this scene with Jane, the constraints of his class have disappeared and the gloves are truly off.
When he firsts holds her in his arms and whispers into her neck......*dreamy sigh*
I would faint on the spot 🤣
Amen. 😂
Best version ever made!
this scene is too much, one of the best performances I have ever seen
It was remarkable., Heart-wrenching
I've seen this so many times and still get chills. The way he yells with so much passion and earnest.
After saying "I'm tired and sick. I need some water" Jane faints in Mr. R's arms. That faint was done very well! She didn't just sink gracefully into his arms...she fainted! He almost missed catching her!
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Best fainting scene EVER!!!
@@cellowali2865 we can all imagine those manly arms around us *swoon*
This is by far my favorite Jane Eyre. Timothy Dalton and Zelah play it to perfection. I feel that she is in complete shock and has been traumatized because she knows she must leave the man she truly loves. I feel for them both.
He got such great baritone voice and great features. I think I can hear his voice all day. And his acting is so controlled and terrific.
Timothy Dalton's voice is not a baritone, he has a real lyrical bass.
Are you kidding? He overacts too much. Zelah does a good job, though,
@@EmilyGloeggler7984¿ DE VERDAD TÚ SABES LO QUE ES SOBRE ACTUAR? LO DUDO. QUE NO TE GUSTE TIMOTHY DALTON. LO PUEDO ENTENDER. PERO QUE DIGAS QUE ESTE ACTOR SOBRE ACTUA . PARA NADA. CADA UNO OPINA COMO QUIERA FALTARÍA MÁS.
@@EmilyGloeggler7984Idk about you but this is how he acts in the book imo😭 Bro was desperate
I love this version he is so real and honest other versions they try to make Mr. Rochester seem nicer and more condensed I think Dalton does a fantastic job
I agree 100%. That is the only actor, who truly convey the character of Mr. R
Ciaran Hinds portrays Rochester very close to the book's version. Physically, he was the closest to Rochester: black hair, a "decisive nose", a "colourless, olive face, square, massive brow, broad and jetty eyebrows, deep eyes, strong features," and a "firm, grim mouth". He's not handsome and his temperament is dark and moody, sexually intense, mysterious, emotional, troubled, and arrogant. He's not remotely "nice". Most women don't like his portrayal, which is likely due to him not appearing to be classically handsome and he's borderline brutish when Jane chose to leave him.
I do like this version since it shows how much emotion Rodchester is displaying to downplay the outright affair they were having. Jane is someone who does the right thing by her even if she appears cold and unemotional, while Rodchester is passionate about the wrongs he has done. They’re polar opposites when the truth comes out, affirming to Jane how much they aren’t truly equals in this situation and she needs to leave
No real mature man would overact like that!
@EmilyGreene1984 most people tend to over romanticize Rochester. They forget he is a downright narcissist. He manipulates jane, strings along the other woman, using her as a ploy to get jane to admit her feelings, then tries to hide his marriage and marry jane as quickly as possible, then when the whole thing blows up in his face, first he tries to plead with her, then accuses her of using him for his money.
The best adaptation of Jane Eyre ever! This is the only one I want to see over and over. Both of these actors have embodied their roles and Paul Reade's score puts you right there with them. An excellent interpretation of a love story with morals, intelligence and passion. Well done all around!
I love the moment 0:36 - 0:46. Aside from the sheer sensuality of Dalton's acting as he holds her and delivers his dialogue, Zelah's little touch was great. I love how, just for one tiny, infinitesmial moment, she relaxes, she surrenders and lets herself lean into him before she recovers herself and pulls away.
Timothy Dalton is brilliant as Rochester he brings the passionate,damaged and romantic side to the character
Timothy's Rochester is best Rochester because he's the only one who gets the dangerous aspect of Rochester's nature down pat. Rochester is still a Byronic figure, and yet most actors choose to leave this part of his character in the dust.
I think he's terrific. Definitely my favorite Rochester of all time.
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I think Ciaran Hinds version was over the top and just an asshole who I felt no sympathy for at all. They romanticized and sexualized Toby Stephens Rochester too much. I think Dalton’s Rochester is perfect, too. He’s got the somewhat manic depressive, melodramatic, and barely self-controlled temper of the character perfectly. He’s not without sympathetic qualities of vulnerability, self-control, and tragedy though.
He is good, though Fassbender's was also good
I love Fassbender’s rendition but I have to admit that Timothy Dalton wins this one when he’s compared to the book. Fassbender was too sweet and romantic for Mr. Rochester at times, but Dalton just hits the nail perfectly
What a great actor Tim and Jane are!
Honestly, current soap operas don't know the meaning of the word drama.
TIMOTHY DALTON GIVES AN OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AS MR ROCHESTER.I CAN STILL FEEL SHIVERS WHENEVER I HEAR HIS VOICE,IT'S SO MANLY AND CHARMING.HIS POSTURE IS SO ELEGANT AND GENTLE.NOW,THIS IS WHAT I CALL REAL ACTING!
Oh, how I love to hear him speak!
True. Me too
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I just LOVE this version. Love love and love!!!
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I have rewatched so many versions of Jane Eyre and have always come back to this one, I love it! It's so book accurate and the performances given by both lead characters are so true to the characters portrayed in the book. Dalton is wildly passionate, but so loving, and Clarke is so cool and collected; even though she may seem bored, if you concentrate on her face (hard to with Dalton there, I know) she's really trying to convey all the inner feelings and thoughts of Jane without being overtly dramatic which would be a terribly hard thing to do. Her voice takes a little getting used to, that is true, but she's putting her best into playing a character that has a hell of a lot of inner dialogue and she's not doing too bad a job. (Not as good as Mia Wasikowska, though, she was such a fantastic Jane, if only she was in a better adaptation!) I definitely feel that no adaptation of Jane Eyre has ever really nailed everything, but this one certainly nails the characters and dialogue which is really the most important thing in a romance.
Agree!
+StrawbeatlePie23 I so totally agree with you. This is the first JE movie I saw in the early 90's. I read Jane Eyre when I was a senior in high school and fell in love with the story. I was always the under dog and I always route for the underdog. This movie is almost like watching a play on TV. I bought this DVD. This is the closest to the actual book. Some parts like her running to him in the field after he had been away but that's just normal of adaptions You know what's interesting I googled her the actress and she sales real estate now in England. I think Timothy Dalton lives in Cali now. He is so good looking and he still looks good for a man of 71. Just think few years later he was James Bond. Sexy man. He has a son by a former girlfriend that had a baby by Mel Gibson you know back when those tapes of him ranting and raving at her. I think she was out for another meal ticket. Dalton didn't marry her either but he's been a good father to his teenage son. I think this is my favorite adaptation. I like it kept close to the book which described Rochester as a muscular built man with thick black hair but average height. Dalton is over 6 feet 1 or 2. In the novel claimed Rochester wasn't the classical handsome of the time but to me that is what I call ruggedly handsome. rowr rowr. Stud muffin!
I completely agree. This adaptation is really amazing. And Mia Wasikowska was a great Jane, if only she had a better script! Same as Fassbender as Rochester.
У Далтона это единственная гениальная роль Рочестер и очень жаль что он не нашел свою Джейн А на счёт женщин. Он всю жизнь гулял изменял бросал И 50годам растеряв свой былой лоск решил завести семью И нашел эту вторую Селину Варанс , история с которой закончилась также как в книге У Бога все на месте Бог дал ему то что он заслужил
I love the drama and the honesty of his words. ❤
I love this story for so long but I only discovered this now. out of all the versions of Mr. Rochester, this one showcase all the things I imagined Mr. Rochester would be when I first read the novel at the age of 15. I am now 37 years old and this scene brought me back the feeling of fear I felt for the character the very first time I've read it. The danger, the desperation, all of it.
I love it when she trips over his foot and he catches her. That's where I always skip up too. I also love it when he says "Roundly and sharply" It sends chills through my spine. And then the part where he's carrying her downstairs and after his story he pleads with her to stay. So romantic! He's my favorite Rochester. My second is Michael Jayston but I haven't decided on the others. Maybe Cieran (MS?) Hinds or Michael Fassbender or Toby Stephens. lol
Toby Stevens is my favorite Rochester.
I agree with you.Dalton managed to capture this change of feelings and emotions of mr Rochester just as described in the book.In his face and voice we can clearly distinguish a heart broken creature and we can do nothing but sympathise with his drama.
the way he says "LEAVE?" cracks me up
me too 😂 they should have leave the “where Jane? to comb your hair?”
how handsome of a man he is,,
I've started other versions of Jane Eyre before, but I never could bring myself to watch them. I like this one too much! :) This is one of my favorite movies! :)
By far this version is the only one that matches the intensity of the scene in the book.
What I wouldn't do to faint in Timothy Dalton's arms like that❣😍😍😍😍
Dang he is massive compared to her
He's supposed to be. In the book, Charlotte Bronte describes Jane as being very small and slight (which is why Rochester often compares her to a fairy) while she describes Rochester as being physically imposing.
OreadNYC but she also described Rochester as being not tall and of average height. He shouldn’t tower over her like this. She’s 5’1 so he should be about 5’8. 6’2 is crazy.
Yeah when he stood I was like wtf giant
I read this comment at the exact mark he stood up and was like WHOA
I’m only 5 feet tall he would be a giant compared to me!!! And I’m 20!! He would be so intimidating!
I simply love this version!!!
Nur, wer wirklich leidenschaftlich ist, kann so Schauspielen, und das ist Timothy Dalton. Ich ziehe meinen Hut vor ihm. Er ist Majestätisch!
No that Man is very "manly" handsome with a great voice too. Shame he can't stay that same age forever, though still not bad even now.
I'm a romantic, I don't get tired of it. The emotions coming at me are plenty. Just love it!
i think that she is really quite pretty
She is I think they obscured her beauty by adding eyeliner to her eyes but it’s probably because of the studio/stage lighting. But she is gorgeous!
Yes, she is very naturally pretty
Когда то в юности тоже казалась , что Зила проста и полновата А сейчас я вижу какая она красивая Из всех фото актрисс,с которыми он снимался в фильмах, фото ЗИЛы Далтон поставил на самую верхушку дерева
I have watched Timothy portray 3 classic figure heroes, Rhett Butler,Heathcliff and Rochester.This performance as Rochester is the best!
and James Bond ☺️
@@cellowali2865 1979 actually :) and I too think he would have played Maxim very well
@@cellowali2865 Dont be so mean, Charles Dance was 51 and very dashing!!!! 😍
And his character was supposed to be several years older than the new wife. And you are right, 2020 Maxim was too young and not mysterious enough. Have reviewed it in my entertainment blog
@@cellowali2865 Kristin Scott Thomas, she was in 'The English Patient' with Ralph Fiennes. Yes, she played Mrs Danvers very well. And as for Rebecca 1997, well not everyone is into the older man-younger woman dynamic, so I understand what you mean. I just wonder how Emilia's mother (Joanna David) must have thought of her performance since she played the second Mrs De Winter herself with Jeremy Brett in the 1979 BBC version. Age gap or not, Emilia and Charles had chemistry.
@@cellowali2865 woo! I would like to watch Kohra
This is my favourite "I must leave you, Mr Rochester" scene out of all the adaptations, extremely accurate to the book. Though I loved the 2006 version with Toby, I hated the bed scene that replaced this part of the book.
Omg same! I love the 2006, but I was so disappointed they replaced this scene with the bed one. This is one of my favorite parts in the book and frankly I think it is important for part of Mr. Rochester's character. In the 2006 one, he was all passion and temptation by way of lust to Jane. This one and the book portrays Rochester's desire, agony, and fury, and a true weakness, but his manipulation and lack of integrity in this moment.
very truuue! especially when Jane in 2006 didn’t want to hold his hand etc. prior to marriage, how come she is laying in bed with him? It is very believable but it was very out of character for Jane
In this scene I can see why Timothy Dalton makes a good Rochester.
Katherinedogears nnt is a f r
Ikr!!!!
Whenever i see this i feel like watching play no background music just pure acting!
Yes that faint looked real, good thing he didn't miss !They are a good coupling. I love this and the proposal scenes, esp. the fiery first one the best.
I can watch this over and over again, not getting sick of it :D
Jane: “I need some water”
Rochester: *brings her a glass of wine*
What are you trying to pull here? :o
He's actually not trying to pull anything here (in the sense of possibly trying to get her drunk so that he can take advantage of her). In the period in which this story is set, most people viewed wine or brandy as suitable remedies for people who were feeling faint as a result of severe emotional shock such as Jane is experiencing here. They thought small quantities of brandy in particular would stimulate cardiac efficiency which would help make the person feel better and more awake -- and it often was effective, even though there was still a great deal which even medical professionals didn't understand about the workings of the human body.
OreadNYC I know I was just joking 😭
@@OreadNYC I appreciate your comment as Mr Rochester bringing Jane wine, when she specifically said she needed water, always bothered me
At 2:23 when she faints, the music sounds like the sound your computer makes when its booted up...
😂 true!! 🤭🤭
This scene was so powerful, it gives me chills.
Well back then in 1848 blond hair/fair complexion was the rage, so he would fit Rochester's not being conventionally thought of as handsome. He also was described though as being athletic with wide shoulders etc. which also would have been viewed as common , like a laborer, not a gentlemen from what I have read of that period.
yes this is what I always say
best adaption ever
Only version where virtually the whole scene is presented as the book describes, though one of my favorite lines, "...because, if you won't, I'll try violence," has never been uttered in a filmed version. Someday, perhaps.
Well, in all fairness, that line in this day and age would immediately ruin Rochester as a romantic hero in most women's eyes and make him look more like the villain of a melodrama. Most modern women after hearing that line would be thinking "No, you WON'T, asshole!" and wholeheartedly agree that Jane needs to leave him. That being said, when you evaluate their relationship critically and objectively, the truth is that Rochester actually ISN'T a very good romantic hero at this point even without that line -- no matter how good he thinks his intentions toward Jane might have been -- and it's not until after he loses Jane that he realizes how misguided his actions were.
I know! This version is by far the most faithful to the actual book but u always wanted to hear that line coming out of his mouth, and also him telling her the whole story, not just of how he married Bertha, but his mistresses after that (including Adele's mother)
@@OreadNYC He's already quite forceful here. Without saying it.
rien a dire la version la plus reel du livre est celle la. Bravo Monsieur Dalton..
Mery Mery jn
Personally I think Timothy Dalton and Toby Stephens are the only two men I prefer to play Rochester. They are, in their own beautiful and chaotic ways, Mr. Rochester.
Yes, but they still make a nice pairing and she , unlike other Janes is physically small like in the book.She is very good and has a sad air for the most part untill the end, except during the first proposal. I felt she gave an intelligent portrayl and he is too good for words (and the appropriate age as in the book).
This is the best Jane Eyre’s version
I love this version of Jane Eyre. Timothy Dalton is how I see Rochester in my mind. His voice is what I hear as well. Jane is Zelah. That is not to say the 1997 one with Ciaran and Samantha is not exceptional as well or the 2006 with Toby and Ruth and the 2011 with Michael and Mia. They all have great chemistry. This one however is the closest and most faithful to the book. this scene makes me cry no matter how many times I see it as Timothy is Edward and realizing he is losing the love of his life, his soulmate. I can watch it over and over.
5:37 for constant replay of a funny rendition of the word 'Leave'!!! This scene is amazing, I ADORE Timothy Dalton in this :')
you have me all wrong, its not because she's mad that I hat her! lol, great line.
What I want to know is where the servants and Mrs. Fairfax and Adele were. Like, that would have been low key terrifying to be huddling upstairs listening to Rochester yelling and then crying and all that jazz.
yes I always think about this 🤣 probably because they knew his temper they are locked in their rooms
They all went down the pub 🤣😭
When we were reading this book in school, this is the adaption that our teacher showed us as we read it. Granted, that was in 2002 so obviously 2006 Jane Eyre didn't exist yet but yeah. Me being the giant hopeless romantic that I am, latched onto it, and now it's my favorite novel. But this is one of my favorite versions because accuracy and Timothy Dalton *is* and *always will be* my first thought when Rochester comes to mind. Zelah Clarke is also fantastic in her own right, and while they're not my favorite Jane and Rochester chemistry-wise, they're in the top three.
Jane is a better, strong person than me.
Timothy Dalton has so much class
IMO I think Dalton fits well as Rochester. Yeah, he's good looking but he's got the dark features and the stature and physique and voice.
And those glittering green eyes that convey a real sense of danger or tenderness, whichever is called for.
@@harpgal9950 that's the only difference here that his eyes are jade green in colour while novel's Rochester had large black eyes.
Perfect. Jane Eyre = favorite this is for me; and Jane Austen; Prife and prejudice= my favorite is Colin an Jennifer... only two are favorite..
my favorite Rochester's are Toby Stephns, Timothy Dalton, and Micheal Fassbender
You must watch the 1973 one with Michael Jayston.
Wow!!!! I have to say I'm a big fan of the 2006 version...I really love Toby's Mr. Rochester...but I'm absolutely astonished with Timothy's Mr. Edward Fairfax Rochester...so passionate!!!! so intense!!!!.... BUT... as well a as Michael Fassbender, I think that Timothy Dalton is too much handsome for the character... In the other hand... that Jane was a doll, right? No crying, no emotions, no acting!!!!!!!! Poor Mr. Rochester :(
the Jane Eyre in the book is meant to be a quiet woman with a very passionate inner self. This scene is exactly how the book intended to portray it - she's falling apart inside but holding strong against his passion trying to break through her resolve. This version is close to the book as any version I've seen. the version with Toby Stephens is lovely n I love it too but it's not like the book at all.
+Kasuni Thewarapperuma Exactly, and because her back story is cut out of the newer versions many don't know or understand the type of person she was or the religious beliefs that motivated her. Zelah did a lovely job.
Total agreement, +louisanna30. In fact, a key scene in the '06 version renders Jane's character unrecognizable as she rolls around in bed with Rochester *after* she's learned of Bertha's existence and the ruined wedding. This is a massive, massive misread of Jane, what sort of person she is, and how she would respond if Rochester tried something like that. It's so terrible.
@@louisanna30THANK YOU. I'm really tired of the negative comments about Zelah Clarke
I can only dream of Timothy Dalton carrying me in his arms - swoon!
My fav Jane Eyre movie
Though in the grand scheme of things i do prefer the 2006 version... I feel dalton did an incredible job... This scene especially. I prefer this portrayal of the scene compared to the modernized version of toby stephens and ruth wilson
I wish 2006 had been more faithful to the novel with these scenes. Not that I didn't love it but they cut out too much dialogue here! Dalton is amazing. As Toby would have been.
Agree. Had 1983 version had a bit of 2006's expression, lightness and emotions, it would have been perfect. Had 2006 version been a bit more true to book and not so simplified at times, it wolud have been perfect. I like 2006 version, but I must admit I'm impressed with Dalton and Clarke. I think they are well chosen for their roles. The only thing that annoys me a bit are their facial expressions. But for this scene, they are almost the same throughout the whole film - Maybe it's supposed to be so, yet it looks so stiff and unnatural sometimes.
OMG my childhood memories
It's definitely interesting because I am reading the book as I watch this scene and there's different forms of imagery going on..
Очень сильная и очень сложная игра,великолепное актёрское мастерство Тимати Но он сыграл так, потому что была именно Зила Ведь у него было много ролей и любовных сцен,но только здесь он так раскрылся,столько страсти,столько нежности Потому что была Зила
THE BEST! SIGH!
The servants during this scene 👀👀👀
He's so wild in this scene...so changeable. One minute he's calm and steely, next minute he's raging and impassioned, then he's all tender sweetness and coaxing persuasion...no wonder she's so "Jesus, bro, get the fuck off me, I can't breathe with your bipolar disorder flailing all over me!"
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J'adore Timothy Dalton!
tall, dark and mysterious Mr. Dalton as Rochester--is that a hundred thousand woman's hearts/dreams being fulfilled here? what's not to like girls?!
What's not to like, girls?
Quite a lot, actually, when you look at Rochester and his relationship with Jane critically and objectively.
Let's face it...Jane would never have allowed herself to develop an emotionally intimate relationship with Rochester in the first place, let alone agree to marry him, if she'd known he was already married. To do so would have put her reputation and entire future at stake -- because governesses usually came from good families and had young girls in their charge, their conduct was expected to be above reproach. If it wasn't, they could very easily find themselves out of a job and unable to get another. Rochester is not really a bad man but he is a rather selfish one in the sense that his relationship with Jane is based on lies he's primarily using for his own benefit so that he won't lose her (even though by keeping her, he would have inevitably hurt her). His intentions toward Jane are generally good -- he clearly has sincere affection for her and wants to please her -- but he's not above trying to manipulate her (using Blanche Ingram to make her jealous). He also assumes that what will make him happy will and should make her happy, but this is a self-serving assumption which doesn't really take her needs and feelings into account. In the end, what Rochester does to Jane is actually not that much different from what his father and brother did to him when they lied to him about his wife's predisposition to mental illness in order to avoid splitting up the family estate. His motive is better than theirs in the sense that he has feelings for Jane and wants to do good things for her...but that isn't enough to make up for the damage it would have done to Jane deep down once she knew the truth.
Сколько боли узнав что он женат. Ах боль душа трепещет как мотылёк бьющийся в стекло в пустоту безмолвияушла в никуда страдая и горько плача
@Sophie01761 OK, a bit dramatic, sure, but, hey, it was GRACEFULLY done!!! :):):) I wish I could be so graceful even with out fainting! :):):) Thanks for your reply...
If i'd met a man so tall, i wouldnt hesitate in marrying him, no matter if he has an army of wives
Me neither, never! 😍
Either TD is extremely tall or Zelah is absolutely tiny.
Both! :)
I would react to this situation the same way I'm very similar to Jane
tbh I think anyone with a functioning moral compass and a set of principles would react the same way.
@@inquisitor596 not so much. Consider that today's modern days not many people cares about marriage standars, which is a pitty.
But he is toooooo handsome to be a Rochester and she is too old to be a Jane Eyre of 18 years. But, indeed, this scene isn't in the 2006 version. In the book I loved this scene...
I love Timothy Dalton in this role.He IS Rochester but i would really like to see Joaquin Phoenix in the role!!!
Ooh I can see that! He's got the perfect ruggedly handsome looks for that. And his eyes too!
He's either very tall or she's short. Either way, I like this version.
Well it's both. He is 6 feet 2 inch and she is about 5 feet.
@@cellowali2865 Oh...
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I agree that Dalton is too handsome to be Rochester but maybe looks like his would have been considered ugly in Bronte's time, plus he has the heavy features that she describes. I think Dalton and Michael Fassbender are both great Rochesters :)
@maygoodcometous1 i thought it was a bit dramatic with the twirl but, yes, definitley thumbs up!!
Timothy Dalton makes a perfectly passionate Mr. Rochester. For the most part Zelah Clark made a good Jane. I loved her passionate outburst and "silent weeping" in the proposal scene of this version. However, in this scene she portrays a very drained and dispassionate Jane. Timothy Dalton is giving it his all, while It looks like Zelah just got bored during this scene, and wants to go and take a nap off set. This Jane didn't even give Rochester a goodbye kiss on the cheek, while saying "God bless you." Maybe, when they shot this Zelah was having a bad day.
Actually, this scene is fairly true to the book. Jane is supposed to be very drained at this point because she's been in her room for several hours and hasn't eaten -- that plus the shock of everything that has happened to her makes her nearly faint, which is why he carries her down the stairs. I think Clark is also trying to depict just how steely Jane's resolve is -- Jane can't afford to let herself feel too much at this point because if she gives into her emotions, she might not be able to do what she knows she must.
@@OreadNYC You're right - Jane's self control and command over her emotions in this scene serves to highlight just how wild Rochester's feelings are at this point. Everything is happening inside with Jane, and outside with Rochester.
@@OreadNYC Yes, but even so there needs to be a flicker of emotion for the viewer. Perhaps this stoic manner doesn't work with 80s cinematography.
This scene is so well done except for 2:25… WTF WAS THAT SOAP OPERA MUSIC DEAD ASS HAD ME CACKLING ✋😭
@Sumfera it's true to the book, and the wine would have warmed her better than water
Holyyyyy how short is she? the first time he stood next to her i thought she was in a chair
Jane was described as tiny in the book
I don't like when they try to put their own spin on a classic. Stick with the story, it's a great story and has weathered time (164 yrs.) to still be read today. I can't say much for alot of the popular best sellers in literature right now, but wonder if they will have as many version (plus a play on Broadway) made of their novels or be read still 164 yrs. from now ?
As she could leave???????????????????!!!!!!
😭😭😭
Most girls would be in hysterics!
PS.A prosperous, thus desirable gentleman ,didn't look like an athlete, but instead would been a bit out of shape, thus denoting his life of wealth & leisure. People have to consider the the standards of the time in which the story took place when imagining how Jane & Rochester looked. From portraits I've seen I thought both Charlotte & her husband were attractive people, though they might not have been viewed so at that time.
Rochester was noted for being quite a horseman and that requires some athleticism.
@emyblond I agree, the casting is a bit weird, but these actors make it work. I like the 2006 version the best too
It's interesting, but in the scene where Timothy Dalton carries Zelah in his arms, it is clear that the actress, despite her small stature, weighs more than 50 kilograms. Timothy Dalton is very athletic and strong, but carries her with noticeable effort.
She probably seems heavier than she is because of all of those layers clothing worn in that period.😌
I'm pretty sure the actress is pregnant. I've seen hints in other scenes, but this one has strong evidence. Watch from 51- 53 seconds and see how his hand is placed above her waist as he releases her.
HA! I think this is the most over the top Mr. Rochester I've ever seen. It's hilarious but I really don't care for the woman who's playing Jane, her voice irks me the wrong way. But I love watching this scene for his hilariously Shakespearean performance
Its a passionate scene for sure, but how much saliva spit must the shorter Jane endure?
Тимати Далтон!
Вы моя любовь!🌷