I totally agree with your stand, I also do not tune in to all of her podcast episodes and I am selective with every other podcast, youtube video - it's not like the creator has to please everybody. I do not think that it's the downfall of Emma, perhaps a part of her audience is changing, but what is the need to push someone down just because you (the listener) don't agree with her opinions or just random rant, the internet is odd sometimes.
The people insinuating they’re more qualified to, I’m sorry.. do what? Host a podcast? Or the people implying they are in some way better than her because they went to college, it’s actually so backwards. A degree doesn’t make you a better person, and tons of people succeed without degrees. They still deserve respect.
Ok, so i watched another video talking about it, and no, the critics were about how her podcast show a lack of critical thinking or that she doesn't really know how to research her topic so in the end she talks about topics like a high schooler.
Americas obsession with college or university degrees is only toped by south korea I think (highest suicide rate from all first world nations btw.). Spending a fortune on sometimes useless degrees for jobs you def. dont need to go to college for and then having an amount of debt that would make me cry. And dont even get me started about free education nowadays. The internet is amazing and offers more equality in accessibility of education. When everyone has a degree, it loses its value too. Those degrees used to be for the most academicly gifted and now you need one to work a normal office job? Pointless. I have a full time job as designer in an agency and never went to university. It was all about skills and my works when I applied. I am also rooting hard for people learning crafts again. This is dying out and everything gets made in China.
@@MinieAnne She's just voicing her opinions and if people don't like them...then don't listen to them. She never claimed to be some kind of "intellectual" she rambles alot... She could do research...but she doesn't, because she is expressing herself, she's not "informing" people on the topic she's talking about. Again she's expressing *her opinions*
@@Nikki-lh1tuokay but if that’s the case, her opinion won’t give any influence, no one is going to listen to someone, who didn’t research about a topic. I understand everyone is free to express themselves but her opinion will be meaningless and no one would listen to her, which it doesn’t benefit her. Why do they mention people in college? because most of them do their research about their topics they spent time doing it. Of course anyone can do it without going to college but SHE isn’t doing it that’s why. If she wanted to stay relevant (she’s an influencer) she has to do the work
For non native English speakers, many language teachers recommended her podcast when learning English as a 2nd/3rd language. Her podcast is easy to digest, her vocab is inclusive and simple to follow. I appreciate how she explains the definition of the topic first. I like the conversational style. Just because her critics find it “unintellectual “ doesn’t mean it isn’t a chill alternative learning resource for others. No one has fact checked her podcast analytics. She’s one of the top podcasts in her category. Its mostly privileged classist middle class girls that look like her pushing the “goto college” comparisons. It’s giving envious, crab in barrel.
She also speaks slowly and isn’t a huge mumbled. I’m a native English speaker but I wish all the languages I was interested in weren’t from fast talking cultures 😭🫶
@@juanaabadiebottcher5508 Strange thing for a teacher to kill a student over. Could they have vocal-fry misophonia? Haha I think most of world has it.
@@juanaabadiebottcher5508 just a guesa but its probably because though emmas way of talking is more easy to digest, it isnt the most stereotypical professional sounding accent. For most people learning english our goal is to use it for work.
When I listen to Emma’s podcast, it’s like listening to a friend talk about a topic that has been on her mind. She talks in a slow pace and sometimes her words doesn’t match her thoughts (I’ve been there too). People need to realise that she is a real person and not just someone on our screens to watch when are bored of real life. She might not have a degree but she is a living creature on earth and has her own thoughts on life and what happens around us. And she wants to share them with us, we can at least be grateful for that. We need to see life without cuts and edits, without filters. + People change, and if you can’t accept that then you need to learn how to because change is a part of life.
Yeah, I'd also sound like an idiot sometimes if I had these types of conversations with myself instead of my friends encouraging me to clarify my thoughts and/or asking questions in response. None of us have fully formed, articulate thoughts out of our mouth every time, no matter your level of education. (and for anyone who thinks it's relevant, I have 2 masters degrees that I got because I felt it was helpful to me, definitely not necessary for my career path)
as a 21 year old girl, she had a huge influence on me from 2017-2021. i hope she’s doing ok. you can’t really expect her to be some great philosopher when she reached such massive success at a young age and didn’t need to continue school. if she wants to make aesthetic videos about her traveling or talk about nothing, i think she has the right. get over it
I know right, it always amazes me how many people seem to enjoy moaning about what others are doing. Everyone's tastes and personalities change over time but if you don't like Emma Chamberlain anymore just stop listening, unsubscribe etc. and get on with your own life.
Yeah, the hive mind and redundant repetitive criticism of “she needs school, she’s lost her relatability, she’s not profound. Yadi Yada” is driving it way past home. I do think think it’s just people having sour grapes and simply outgrowing something and getting sassy about it. The whole contrived and parasocial schtick of ‘monetized relatability and authenticity’ is already a corporate dystopian concept. Why are people so ready to follow into this cult of personality and help popularize someone because of this perceived relatability until they reach a point where they simply can’t be relatable anymore? because once they get a stack of money and deals for acting like ‘your cute little gremlin friend struggling through life with you’ the whole illusion breaks down.
What did she do though? From what was described, it seems like she just existed and yall got excited over that for some reason? Is the bar that low? Some of yall act like you were born in quarantine, I'm having a hard time finding the appeal
I’m thinking it could also be resentment. She was a “peer” for her generation, and managed to be the 1% to get famous/rich via influencing. When everyone else got older, I’d wonder if resentment and detachment grew because they truly are not “peers” anymore nor have similar (thus relatable) experiences. 🤷🏻♀️
I feel like she’s the one who wants to still be viewed as a peer but her content isn’t hitting the mark. She is free to do what she wants, but her content doesn’t hit the brand she’s built. If she wants to continue to be viewed that way, she needs to do a market reassessment of shift gears. If not, it’s just sub-par lifestyle vlogging.
70% of lottery winners go bankrupt within a few years. Looks like all these fast influencer's similar to that. They made randomly famous by their followers and when those followers want they dethrone them. Only few can survive this thos who existed and work on themselves without social media enabling or for approval
Some people say Emma is a pretty girl with pretty privilege - but seeing her in unflattering ways, her with acne and a messy bun and burping on screen makes her look like a very average,regular girl despite her family being better off than most viewers. Seeing a regular girl like yourself make it to fame and success and get invited to all these fashion shows and suddenly get elevated with fancy makeup and clothes - I agree, I think there's an element of jealousy and resentment. Many are probably questioning how is she worth being invited to all these events and hosting the met bc they saw her in her flaws
Speaking as a Milennial who is only vaguely familiar with Emma, this was a very fair analysis. Emma isn't a regular teenager anymore. She's gone from being recorded in her kitchen to be recorded on red carpets. Her life experience is unique. So if she's no longer relatable to you, that's fine. It's disappointing, but it's not the end of the world. Find someone else to listen to. On the other hand, it's clear Emma needs a sounding board or collaborators so she can gain more perspective. That will greatly enhance her podcast alone.
Let her make the content she wants to make, like it might not be personally what people want, but she’s rich enough to not need to adhere to what the people want.
“Rich enough to not need to adhere to what the people want” rich people never /need/ to adhere to what the people want. But a podcast needs listeners, and those listeners can suggest improvement. It’s simply criticism on a product
@@dotcom3015 I agree it is valid criticism, yet she doesn’t need to listen. She makes podcasts but it’s her piece of art it’s her creation. What she does with it is her choice.
@@Amandalamaa which she is paid millions of dollars to do by a platform that is trying not to pay actual musicians if they don’t reach a certain amount of streams. It’s not to crazy to ask her to structure her podcast or put in some more effort for her /job/
@@persykelli in this video? The examples weren’t really hateful. It seemed like they thought they were giving suggestions that would improve her content, at least the ones that I have seen in full, the other ones were cut off. Most of these people, seemed to have listened to her podcast. That’s means that they are consumers of her product. Even if they have a negative opinion on her product, it’s still feedback
Why bash her for living her best life? I sense jealousy in some of their tone. And they tellin’ her to go to college for “experience” whereas she travelling the world and meeting with new people everyday is the kinda experience that they or some of us would never be able to get in life. And good for her. Those girls were being really close minded and short sighted and IT SHOWS…
It's definitely jealousy. People who watched her before liked her cause she was like them, now she is more successfull, which makes them mad. I only started listening to her podcast recently and even though I'm not as established as her, I still find her relatable in a lot of ways.
I think even though Emma didn’t go to college, she learned a lot of other skills, for example networking etc. I am from Europe (Germany) where a lot of people are still learning trades instead of going to uni. In fact in some industries it is better to get practical experience. Honestly for me it is more inspirational how she grew her business essentially and a lesson in confidence and do what you want to.
@sophie.travel Unter uns, kommt es mir generell so vor als würden die Leute das mit dem College nur sagen, weil - wie mein Alter aus den US stammender Lehrer sagen würde - erst ab da wirklich Bildung losgeht und das auf einem Niveau, was bei uns mit der 5. - 10. Klasse vergleichbar wäre. Kommt zwar auch aufs Fach an, aber vom Prinzip her 😂 und ich glaube ihm das, aber dementsprechend beginnt für viele wohl erst dort dieses gewisse tiefere Denken und dann fühlen die sich somewhat schlauer als alle nicht-Studis usw. usf….. ist zwar irgendwie ein Klischee, dass das Bildungssystem dort schwächelt und ich bin kein Fan davon Klischees blind zu glauben, aber das wäre meine Erklärung dafür … dennoch sind viele Amerikaner ja nicht blöd in der Birne.. NA JA egal 😂 Ende meines Romans.
Sehe ich sehr ähnlich. Hab auch die zehnte in USA gemacht und Chemie auf einem 11/12 Level war das was wir in der 7/8 Klasse gemacht haben @@mariechenls.
@@MinieAnne yes lol. they literally have several properties in san fransisco. she did well being 'normal' and mocking the extreme lifestyle vloggers and their ott brand trips and designer gear she just now is at the same stage as those she mocked
I think she is more down to earth than most influencers. Sure, she is not gonna be able to talk about normal experiences bc guess what? She didnt have a normal life. She got famous at 16 and quit school and is a millionaire and the age of 22, OF COURSE she is not gonna be relatable to most people. That doesn’t mean what she has to say is completely stupid and void. If you are lookinh for relatability, big influencers who live in LA and have their own companies in their 20’s and never had to get close to a university are not gonna give you that relatability, honey. Simple as that. Also I dont think she is trying to become a “voice of a generation” with her podcast. She just wants to be able to make a living out of content without having to leave her bed sometimes. Anyone here woudl do the same if they had the opportunity, lets be honest. So yeah, if she feels like evolving her content, great, if not, thats not your problem boo, go find something else to listen to.
I really like that you acknowledged the fact that everyone is in an echo chamber of their own to some extent. I think it’s a great point seeing as the term echo chamber is thrown around so much, without people realising that they are also in one
She's an eccentric person and is therefore interesting even in mundane settings/ topics. She's challenging this expectation that she show off her wealth, looks, glow up with fame and is instead filming herself with a microphone in bed with glasses and frumpy clothes. Gives normcore vibes to me. Seems clear she's challenging conspicuous consumption and expectations of how women should look or wealth looks. I like her and I like her direction.
I just see haters personally…she doesn’t claim to have a philosophy degree or anything. She’s just talking and sharing her thoughts on things. Like a friend. And that’s absolutely fine.
As someone who has spent too much time in uni, its definitely not for everyone. I don't think you are necessarily 'smart' if you go to uni/college and it's super rude to insinuate that someone 'should' go. But it is also annoying when people believe that uni just provides you with intellectual knowledge - uni is place to meet different people, make connections, and understand other's opinions. I'm certain you can have these experiences outside of uni, but for some of us, uni is the place where we learned about who we are and met some of our closest friends - so its understandable why people believe uni is for everyone (when its not). In the end, its Emma's choice and saying she needs to college/uni is extremely arrogant.
What annoys me is that they say that she doesn’t have anything profound to say and perceive to repeat the exact same thing as if they came up with it themselves, I don’t think they even realise it
Literally like these people were going on about her being in an “echo-chamber”, and I’d just be like, you’re literally jumping on the hate band wagon and allll the comments here are agreeing with you, like you’re not coming up with new ideas either 😂
College doesn’t make someone smart or a critical thinker. Some people genuinely don’t want to go to college. I’m a full time student/mom/worker and it’s easy to get burnt out. People are just hateful towards Emma for no reason. Her podcast is just what ever she wants to talk about. Who cares ?
"College makes you a relatable, real person!!" I know a lot of smart, amazing people who couldn't afford or manage college. Equating university enrollment to some sort of superiority is classist (and ableist).
Thank you! Literally just seeing this in a new light now, it truly is ableist and classist. I feel dumb for not being able to finish my diploma, but it was COMPLETELY inaccessible for me with my adhd, I was physically destroyed and couldn’t hand things in on time to pass even though my grades were great and I went above and beyond and hyper fixated like crazy on subjects. It does sting when people say elitist stuff like this, it’s super annoying, podcasts are literally just conversations and not all conversations have to be highly intellectual or structured.
Why the hell should everyone be relatable or represent people? Why? We all watched movies and shows that had NOTHING to do with our lifes and loved it. We all watched interviews with people who have lifes totally different from ours and thats what made it fun. We want to see things that are a different reality sometimes. If I want relatable stuff only, I would record myself and the mundane things around me all day. Not everythign has to be about me.
I love her podcast because she talks about things that pretty much everyone goes through, normal day to day life situations. Even small relatable things she talks abt makes me feel somewhat more understood and it feels like ft with a friend
I think we need to recognise that she is a human too. And not just some creature or machine behind a screen,,, she will grow and change,, and it is not in our place to judge that someone has grown to be different than what we had known before and what we were comfortable with. What we can do is find some creator that suits us , that is relateable to us. We can grow out of situations and people and that is totally okay and it is not their duty to change as we do.(I haven't watch her videos or listen to her podcasts but that's just what i thought )
I love emma's podcast. It's so raw and engaging. As for the college argument, I know so many people in their masters degree that refuse to even touch any topic on emotional intelligence.
Hell i am a millennial and still love Emma! Even though she is six years younger than me, i still found a lot of her content relatable and refreshing to that of other creators there was just something about her all over the place chaos that was calming to me she wasn’t who i would go to for anything profound or super deep, she was just a vibe and a comfort for me
what i dont get is why everyone thinks she needs to be relatable. like why don't you enjoy listening to unique people with their own experiences, thoughts and feelings? so weird to me how they seem like they want everyone to be like themselves.
I had a nice LOL when Emma asked herself if she was really about to cry right now. Thats the whole problem with putting your entire life online, your never alone with yourself and the thing gets stuck down inside you.
I started this video thinking it was going to be somewhat an attack against Emma or just affirming how her "downfall" but it ended up being a great analysis and a very mature one at that. I agree with you!
Why are people so obsessed with college in my country so many people have degrees but are jobless and they forget skills sre importsnt at the end of the day its just a piece of paper but you csn be successful either way .
never expected emma to be a philosopher, just a girl in her 20s going through thoughts most of us are having and it blows my mind ppl hold her to such a high standard. it’s not like she’s spreading misinformation she brings guests on with more qualifications than she has to talk about certain topics which i actually really appreciate especially her cultish ones
People need to understand not everything is made for them. They may not find it deep or interesting but others will. I know that I’m not really a podcast listener myself (apart from sometimes listening to trash taste and frenemies) so I know that I’m not going to go out of my way to listen to hers. Also if people genuinely think that university makes you a critical thinker, then I’m concerned. You don’t need to be in education to be able to think and learn, we’re humans that’s what we’re supposed to do in our lives regardless of whatever institutions that exist. Also I’ve met so many people at university who don’t even think in general so thinking critically is too far out of their skill set.
Hello, a real philosopher here. Not all of the thoughts have to be posted on the internet. And yes, to make sure that your “opinion” is valuable, you require a certain degree of education to have a certain amount of background knowledge and expand your thinking. Also, not all of the opinions are knowledge. Whatever such podcasts create is informational garbage. And myself as a philosopher have to fight with it a lot. People get confused when there is so many “thoughts and opinions” and 0 knowledge. I had no idea about this influencer since I am pretty much from a different continent and thinking hygiene requires me not to watch or listen to mediocre stuff (it makes your thinking staffed and slow). But I mean… can we post smth valuable? Instead of just “podcast about my thoughts”? We claim to be the smartest generation but actually to “post” anything out there a century ago you had to have education and earn the right to be published. Therefore the quality of “opinions” was different. And yes, I agree, this “interned wisdom” is a facepalm because if there was any education, the quality of thoughts would have been way higher and more valuable. Most things people say on the internet are said just due to the lack of education.
Emma seems to have built her career using her emotional intelligence (networking, problem solving, team work etc). I had to learn those things anyway after I'd graduated from the uni. I still am. I also learned tons of stuff through travelling. It seems to me Emma got a better education and earlier than me😅 Plus she didn't waste time at the uni.
I love her podcast! She talks about a lot of relèvent topics considering her young audience such as body image finding confidence dealing with breakups and even fashion and home decor, as an 18 year old girl her podcast is very relatable helpful!
All the charges of her to be uneducated are pure classism, there is no other way to call it. Basically all over the western world the cultural field is a prerogative of high class people, it's a locked environment; you can access to it only if you belong to specific social groups. Can she improve? Of course she can but, really, this is not the point: people are not criticize her for her content, they are just hating her with classist insults.
I still think her podcast is relatable I love her content to this day whether its something I could do someday or not its good entertainment I enjoy. She seems like a really caring genuine person. I had no idea people dislike her now... and it's okay to have changes in taste of what they enjoy. But is downfall taking it too far??? reactions to the video: zoe always such a great job explaining things and every point she made was so true. but in the end its important that we use our time/money etc to invest in what we want to do, and what makes us most happy or content.
Emma seems like a nice person, maybe she should take a break from social media and get threapy and not talking to random strangers about your problems ❤
I have never heard of her until today. I don't understand what the fascination is with her. it just goes to show there are a lot of people with low self-esteem and self-worth.
She knows more about THAT life than anyone of us.. she’s a star. People need to chill. I love Emma and I’m a 30 year old girl from Sweden. I don’t have to relate to her, I just love her personality.
I remember Emma saying the first podcast she tried to produce was about science and it the terms got too complex to make content about. I understand that when one opens science textbooks there is math and it can be daunting to learn by yourself this topics and later have to make a podcast about it. She gave up on this project, and decided to talk about more social topics like relationships, loneliness, strategies to be productive. I think that many of the followers know that Emma was very active in studying in highschool and had discipline. She also got into reading for fun. Maybe is ok to wish that she can learn more about fields that we see she has an interest in. I do feel she could become more sophisticated in her knowledge, because staying shallow just to be relatable is not cool. I think she could become better if she becomes more knowledgeful in a topic, like social relationships (Social Sciences) , a formal education will give her more confidence when she speaks and she can become wiser for herself and maybe, if she chooses for others. We should always try to become better not try to imitate a persona we created in the past for the like of others.
Having an education doesn't mean everyone who has a qualification is intelligent. Many are clapping seals who lack critical thinking skills. Many intelligent people don't go down the road of academia. I use to assume "educated" meant a super intelligent person, but most of the graduates I use to be friends with, were just smug, someone who just wants to make their entire identity about their piece of paper yet still cannot land the job with a lot of debt. Education is important, but be intelligent... not to project it.
I think the recent hate train directed towards her can be said due to the constant fear of falling behind among our generation. She initially started out and became popular by being a relatable and open person on the internet, she was really open about her struggles and hardships in the age where many influencers were portraying their lives as "perfect" and "aesthetic". That's why people felt a sort of relatability and kinship towards her. But now that she has become really successful as a gen z icon and now mainly focusing on her bussines and podcast where she talks about her struggles and philosophical topics really seems unappealing towards her audience, who now have grown up or became an adult facing different types of struggle in their day to day life. So seeing someone already successful talking about things really may not relatable to her audience
It is insane that people expect her to be relatable after several years of insane fame and money. That would change anyone and everyone, that goes double for child stars. 100% she is not relatable because she literally can’t relate to the adult world as a regular person, she has not ever had that experience. She had a normal childhood but her audience has aged with her but not with her content because they have all had to be adults in the real world and she literally never has. It is not her “fault” and it is kind of crazy for anyone to expect her to be that same person that she was in 2018.
i love emma, everyone’s different. if u don’t relate u don’t, i’m still only 17 but i’m also somewhat in her shoes. not everyone is interested in the same basic life goals everyone pushes u. we all hav different things to figure out, underrated or not
tbh I think it was just a slump in her podcast for a while - she went more personal and random again, and I find the most enjoyable. basically, she doesn't drop so many definitions anymore. I lowkey feel like it was just a mid season and it's all cool again. perhaps a busy schedule thing
why are people trying to roast Emma for not going to college when Adin Ross is out here not even having finished high school and being a menace to society? get your priorities straight people
I love emma’s podcast…it’s nth RENOWNED but she’s literally just a young adult talking? It’s very relatable cause she’s discussing and thinking about the same things I do. People just want to be miserable and hate on her for something
I really appreciate the kindness and compassion you approach this topic with. She’s still young. And we learn continuously throughout our lives, changing. I agree that the “needs to go to college” argument sounds elitist and honestly quite old fashioned. No one has it all figured out, and Emma is trying to say that she does. There’s some really kind comments on here! I loved the point about just because she’s got a bit of hate on tiktok recently, it doesn’t mean she’s gonna change herself for that- we connect with different people at different times, and so I think there’s an audience for everyone/everything.
She seems more authentic and genuine now and that’s sad because you can clearly see how much pain she’s in. You can literally see the depression appear in her eyes in the past few years. I never liked her or her content but I’m realizing now that she actually is trying to be real and I respect that I feel bad for her getting all this hate and videos being made about her at such a young age when she’s trying to do her best. I wanna give her a hug. Edit: also shout out a youtuber who encourages discussions even if people have differing opinions I love that.
If nobody hates you then you weren't real enough. That's the price you gotta pay for it and yes now she's finally being true to herself, and she has to learn to accept it (as in no it's not a good thing that people hate on each other but if they do, you have to learn to not let it bother you)
People just have high expectations of her. I never watched or followed her but as I can see, she was kind of a role model to look up to, for most of her audience. She seemed like a safe place to escape to. Her audience caught up with her. Either she has to develop her philosophy and thinking skills or her audience. There is no other way. Important to know is that just going to college will not make you a better or smarter person. If you are willing to develop yourself, maybe but there is no guarantee. Just a bachelor will not show your intelligence 😅, this will never be a valid reason. Reading the same book at different ages will always be different, so the view towards people we looked up to. If they are so smart they could literally start to read and teach themselves deport thinking skills. Emma has a specific audience as targets and these are pre teens or teenagers, which is okay 👍
I don’t think it matters that she dropped out or didn’t go to college. I don’t think she has to go to college. She can talk about whatever she wants on her podcast. However, being ‘bored’ is a privilege. I can’t blame people for not connecting with her content anymore because it’s true that she is out of touch. I honestly and personally can’t bare to listen to self-pitying ‘I’m so sad, I’m so bored’ videos. A lot of people don’t have time to wallow or be bored. From the lower class struggling to provide for themselves and their family, wars and famine in other countries, i cant empathise with sad girls in their mansions who really do nothing other than sell their coffee and attend met galas with the other sheltered celebs. Its not even a case of ‘rich person bad’, there are many people with high paying jobs who benefit the world like doctors but influencers and celebrities are merely pretentious. It’s true that she should try and keep herself busy but of course college isn’t the only option, but I don’t blame people for disliking her.
the media just always does this. first it’s “we love this celeb!” then its “idk why but i kinda hate this celeb” then its “idk why everyones hating on this celeb when they actually did nothing wrong, you guys are so mean!” and then everyone loves them again. the same thing happened with ed sheeran and debby ryan, and it’s already happened with emma once. the back and fourth just keeps going
I think Emma has become a great conversationalist. I think her met gala interviews (and hot ones too) are so fun and she makes people comfortable. I think that maybe if she switched to a different outlet- like if she was a late night talk show host? Like a new gen Z Jimmy Fallon? Or a cooking show? I think she has so much potential, but I think ALL podcasts can start to be an echo chamber after a while. It’s just like someone talking to themselves for an hour? I think her “relatability” has just gone out of style for now, which is unfortunate.
I havent watched the video but i discovered her in 2024 and i didnt perceive her as a fallen but rather a risen lol how is a wise and humble mindset with millions of subscriber an unsucessful person
Striking to do a phd in philosophy, I like her podcast. I like her feeling like being a friend. If you want someone talking about philosophy, read a fucking Plato. End of discussion.
Her instagram is all about red carpets, the Fashion week, designer clothes etc…It’s not what I’m interested in. Plus I’m French, I live in Paris and it’s funny to see how she romanticizes France and Europe😬Anyway I miss old Emma…but I guess it’s not compatible with her new status anymore.
Yes I can’t help but to feel like this video is a hate piece! How do you have 2.8 million followers and make a video claiming the downfall of another UA-cam influencer. This video is irresponsible and mean.
i watched emma around 5 years ago till maybe last year, and i've only listened to maybe 2 or 3 episodes of her podcast it was never that serious, imo, everything that she has put out was always personal in a way that it's like she's thinking out loud and on the internet, processing her thoughts as she's filming, personally i've never taken what she said seriously like a source of information ykwim, it's more like an entertainment since it is her own thoughts on camera, like it's kind of hard to explain so i hope it makes sense also, i've felt this since she stopped putting much "effort" in her videos, i.e. forcing the algorithm using thumbnails and loud titles, she's changed professionally to another tier of popularity, yes the met gala, vogue, fashion week, the new house, honestly i think popularity isn't the right word but the brain is not braining atm, example that i think is similar is with nailea devora but i think nai is a bit grounded but still closely in that category of popularity i think the change is for the better, i'm glad that she's grown so much, like it's crazy how much relatability can do, and whatever she's gonna do with people putting out bullshit on her, i hope she's not taking it seriously as i didn't to her shit lol, do what you wanna do girl ong
@@melione_ "allegations" lmao. It isn't that serious, emma her content is just generic teenage girl talk and besides she's not harming anyone so who cares?
Tbh I don’t find anything wrong with Emma’s podcast… I think a lot of micro influencers or wanna be influencers are actually wishing for her downfall and trying to create a trend of her end.
Favorite part when she said being able to code is useless. Coders run the world. Whole reason you have fame is because someone coded this website, also damn guess I didn’t learn how to be resourceful in trade school. I forgot Only bachelor degrees deserve respect.
Idk why she wouldn’t want to go to college and major in philosophy and psychology since she’s so interested in the topics . I think it would do wonders for her . I majored in both and it’s completely changed the way I think and understand the world. I don’t think she would regret it… but idk if she would be committed bc it is a big commitment
The irony that you’re all criticising Emma for trying to be a philosopher and then this hometown hog (never heard of her) does the exact same thing 😭😭😭
What are your thoughts on Emma's podcast & videos?
I love her podcasts. I haven't been listening to them as much but I do like her content!
She's over caffeinated 😅
Her content never appealled to me but i can recognize that she does have a huge influence particularly with white women
I totally agree with your stand, I also do not tune in to all of her podcast episodes and I am selective with every other podcast, youtube video - it's not like the creator has to please everybody. I do not think that it's the downfall of Emma, perhaps a part of her audience is changing, but what is the need to push someone down just because you (the listener) don't agree with her opinions or just random rant, the internet is odd sometimes.
I think just like you do
The people insinuating they’re more qualified to, I’m sorry.. do what? Host a podcast? Or the people implying they are in some way better than her because they went to college, it’s actually so backwards. A degree doesn’t make you a better person, and tons of people succeed without degrees. They still deserve respect.
Ok, so i watched another video talking about it, and no, the critics were about how her podcast show a lack of critical thinking or that she doesn't really know how to research her topic so in the end she talks about topics like a high schooler.
Americas obsession with college or university degrees is only toped by south korea I think (highest suicide rate from all first world nations btw.). Spending a fortune on sometimes useless degrees for jobs you def. dont need to go to college for and then having an amount of debt that would make me cry. And dont even get me started about free education nowadays. The internet is amazing and offers more equality in accessibility of education. When everyone has a degree, it loses its value too. Those degrees used to be for the most academicly gifted and now you need one to work a normal office job? Pointless. I have a full time job as designer in an agency and never went to university. It was all about skills and my works when I applied. I am also rooting hard for people learning crafts again. This is dying out and everything gets made in China.
@@MinieAnne She's just voicing her opinions and if people don't like them...then don't listen to them. She never claimed to be some kind of "intellectual" she rambles alot... She could do research...but she doesn't, because she is expressing herself, she's not "informing" people on the topic she's talking about. Again she's expressing *her opinions*
It’s 2023. I thought we’ve all gotten over the “people who go to college are better” mentality.
@@Nikki-lh1tuokay but if that’s the case, her opinion won’t give any influence, no one is going to listen to someone, who didn’t research about a topic. I understand everyone is free to express themselves but her opinion will be meaningless and no one would listen to her, which it doesn’t benefit her. Why do they mention people in college? because most of them do their research about their topics they spent time doing it. Of course anyone can do it without going to college but SHE isn’t doing it that’s why. If she wanted to stay relevant (she’s an influencer) she has to do the work
For non native English speakers, many language teachers recommended her podcast when learning English as a 2nd/3rd language. Her podcast is easy to digest, her vocab is inclusive and simple to follow. I appreciate how she explains the definition of the topic first. I like the conversational style. Just because her critics find it “unintellectual “ doesn’t mean it isn’t a chill alternative learning resource for others. No one has fact checked her podcast analytics. She’s one of the top podcasts in her category. Its mostly privileged classist middle class girls that look like her pushing the “goto college” comparisons. It’s giving envious, crab in barrel.
She also speaks slowly and isn’t a huge mumbled. I’m a native English speaker but I wish all the languages I was interested in weren’t from fast talking cultures 😭🫶
My english teacher would have killed me If I listened to a girlie from the USA to learn and practice the language, lol
@@juanaabadiebottcher5508 Strange thing for a teacher to kill a student over. Could they have vocal-fry misophonia? Haha I think most of world has it.
@@realle24 I don't know how it is everywhere else but teachers in Argentina are married to the BBC sound. It's that or the highway
@@juanaabadiebottcher5508 just a guesa but its probably because though emmas way of talking is more easy to digest, it isnt the most stereotypical professional sounding accent. For most people learning english our goal is to use it for work.
When I listen to Emma’s podcast, it’s like listening to a friend talk about a topic that has been on her mind. She talks in a slow pace and sometimes her words doesn’t match her thoughts (I’ve been there too). People need to realise that she is a real person and not just someone on our screens to watch when are bored of real life. She might not have a degree but she is a living creature on earth and has her own thoughts on life and what happens around us. And she wants to share them with us, we can at least be grateful for that. We need to see life without cuts and edits, without filters.
+ People change, and if you can’t accept that then you need to learn how to because change is a part of life.
THISSS!!! ❤
Yeah, I'd also sound like an idiot sometimes if I had these types of conversations with myself instead of my friends encouraging me to clarify my thoughts and/or asking questions in response. None of us have fully formed, articulate thoughts out of our mouth every time, no matter your level of education. (and for anyone who thinks it's relevant, I have 2 masters degrees that I got because I felt it was helpful to me, definitely not necessary for my career path)
exactly what i wanted to say
yes! i love that her podcast isn't super structured and formal
soooo agreee! was never attracted to any emma content until her podcasts, it allows me to just be
as a 21 year old girl, she had a huge influence on me from 2017-2021. i hope she’s doing ok. you can’t really expect her to be some great philosopher when she reached such massive success at a young age and didn’t need to continue school. if she wants to make aesthetic videos about her traveling or talk about nothing, i think she has the right. get over it
I know right, it always amazes me how many people seem to enjoy moaning about what others are doing. Everyone's tastes and personalities change over time but if you don't like Emma Chamberlain anymore just stop listening, unsubscribe etc. and get on with your own life.
Yeah, the hive mind and redundant repetitive criticism of “she needs school, she’s lost her relatability, she’s not profound. Yadi Yada” is driving it way past home. I do think think it’s just people having sour grapes and simply outgrowing something and getting sassy about it.
The whole contrived and parasocial schtick of ‘monetized relatability and authenticity’ is already a corporate dystopian concept.
Why are people so ready to follow into this cult of personality and help popularize someone because of this perceived relatability until they reach a point where they simply can’t be relatable anymore? because once they get a stack of money and deals for acting like ‘your cute little gremlin friend struggling through life with you’ the whole illusion breaks down.
LMFAOOO we're talking about her critical thinking skills 😭
AGREED
What did she do though? From what was described, it seems like she just existed and yall got excited over that for some reason?
Is the bar that low?
Some of yall act like you were born in quarantine, I'm having a hard time finding the appeal
I’m thinking it could also be resentment. She was a “peer” for her generation, and managed to be the 1% to get famous/rich via influencing. When everyone else got older, I’d wonder if resentment and detachment grew because they truly are not “peers” anymore nor have similar (thus relatable) experiences. 🤷🏻♀️
this
I feel like she’s the one who wants to still be viewed as a peer but her content isn’t hitting the mark. She is free to do what she wants, but her content doesn’t hit the brand she’s built. If she wants to continue to be viewed that way, she needs to do a market reassessment of shift gears. If not, it’s just sub-par lifestyle vlogging.
@@barely5feet818 true
70% of lottery winners go bankrupt within a few years. Looks like all these fast influencer's similar to that. They made randomly famous by their followers and when those followers want they dethrone them. Only few can survive this thos who existed and work on themselves without social media enabling or for approval
Some people say Emma is a pretty girl with pretty privilege - but seeing her in unflattering ways, her with acne and a messy bun and burping on screen makes her look like a very average,regular girl despite her family being better off than most viewers. Seeing a regular girl like yourself make it to fame and success and get invited to all these fashion shows and suddenly get elevated with fancy makeup and clothes - I agree, I think there's an element of jealousy and resentment. Many are probably questioning how is she worth being invited to all these events and hosting the met bc they saw her in her flaws
Speaking as a Milennial who is only vaguely familiar with Emma, this was a very fair analysis. Emma isn't a regular teenager anymore. She's gone from being recorded in her kitchen to be recorded on red carpets. Her life experience is unique. So if she's no longer relatable to you, that's fine. It's disappointing, but it's not the end of the world. Find someone else to listen to. On the other hand, it's clear Emma needs a sounding board or collaborators so she can gain more perspective. That will greatly enhance her podcast alone.
Let her make the content she wants to make, like it might not be personally what people want, but she’s rich enough to not need to adhere to what the people want.
“Rich enough to not need to adhere to what the people want” rich people never /need/ to adhere to what the people want. But a podcast needs listeners, and those listeners can suggest improvement. It’s simply criticism on a product
@@dotcom3015 I agree it is valid criticism, yet she doesn’t need to listen. She makes podcasts but it’s her piece of art it’s her creation. What she does with it is her choice.
@@Amandalamaa which she is paid millions of dollars to do by a platform that is trying not to pay actual musicians if they don’t reach a certain amount of streams. It’s not to crazy to ask her to structure her podcast or put in some more effort for her /job/
@@dotcom3015it’s not criticism, it’s hate. And those are different things
@@persykelli in this video? The examples weren’t really hateful. It seemed like they thought they were giving suggestions that would improve her content, at least the ones that I have seen in full, the other ones were cut off. Most of these people, seemed to have listened to her podcast. That’s means that they are consumers of her product. Even if they have a negative opinion on her product, it’s still feedback
Why bash her for living her best life? I sense jealousy in some of their tone. And they tellin’ her to go to college for “experience” whereas she travelling the world and meeting with new people everyday is the kinda experience that they or some of us would never be able to get in life. And good for her. Those girls were being really close minded and short sighted and IT SHOWS…
i soo agree she is living her best life
It's definitely jealousy. People who watched her before liked her cause she was like them, now she is more successfull, which makes them mad.
I only started listening to her podcast recently and even though I'm not as established as her, I still find her relatable in a lot of ways.
They want her to go to college so that she’s more informed on topics like mental health which she preaches poorly about to a child audience
@@annanicole5494you don’t need college to be well informed
@@carolbaskin1857 But when you have the money to get 5+ degrees… Why wouldn’t you lol
I think even though Emma didn’t go to college, she learned a lot of other skills, for example networking etc. I am from Europe (Germany) where a lot of people are still learning trades instead of going to uni. In fact in some industries it is better to get practical experience. Honestly for me it is more inspirational how she grew her business essentially and a lesson in confidence and do what you want to.
Isn't she from a rich family ?
@@MinieAnneno
@sophie.travel Unter uns, kommt es mir generell so vor als würden die Leute das mit dem College nur sagen, weil - wie mein Alter aus den US stammender Lehrer sagen würde - erst ab da wirklich Bildung losgeht und das auf einem Niveau, was bei uns mit der 5. - 10. Klasse vergleichbar wäre. Kommt zwar auch aufs Fach an, aber vom Prinzip her 😂 und ich glaube ihm das, aber dementsprechend beginnt für viele wohl erst dort dieses gewisse tiefere Denken und dann fühlen die sich somewhat schlauer als alle nicht-Studis usw. usf….. ist zwar irgendwie ein Klischee, dass das Bildungssystem dort schwächelt und ich bin kein Fan davon Klischees blind zu glauben, aber das wäre meine Erklärung dafür … dennoch sind viele Amerikaner ja nicht blöd in der Birne.. NA JA egal 😂 Ende meines Romans.
Sehe ich sehr ähnlich. Hab auch die zehnte in USA gemacht und Chemie auf einem 11/12 Level war das was wir in der 7/8 Klasse gemacht haben @@mariechenls.
@@MinieAnne yes lol. they literally have several properties in san fransisco. she did well being 'normal' and mocking the extreme lifestyle vloggers and their ott brand trips and designer gear she just now is at the same stage as those she mocked
I think she is more down to earth than most influencers. Sure, she is not gonna be able to talk about normal experiences bc guess what? She didnt have a normal life. She got famous at 16 and quit school and is a millionaire and the age of 22, OF COURSE she is not gonna be relatable to most people. That doesn’t mean what she has to say is completely stupid and void. If you are lookinh for relatability, big influencers who live in LA and have their own companies in their 20’s and never had to get close to a university are not gonna give you that relatability, honey. Simple as that. Also I dont think she is trying to become a “voice of a generation” with her podcast. She just wants to be able to make a living out of content without having to leave her bed sometimes. Anyone here woudl do the same if they had the opportunity, lets be honest. So yeah, if she feels like evolving her content, great, if not, thats not your problem boo, go find something else to listen to.
I really like that you acknowledged the fact that everyone is in an echo chamber of their own to some extent. I think it’s a great point seeing as the term echo chamber is thrown around so much, without people realising that they are also in one
She's an eccentric person and is therefore interesting even in mundane settings/ topics. She's challenging this expectation that she show off her wealth, looks, glow up with fame and is instead filming herself with a microphone in bed with glasses and frumpy clothes. Gives normcore vibes to me. Seems clear she's challenging conspicuous consumption and expectations of how women should look or wealth looks. I like her and I like her direction.
This is the first time I hear of Emma Chamberlain
Lol, I thought I was living under a stone or something as I also never heard of her😅
😂😂😂😂😂
Same here 😂
Me too. Maybe we are too old? 😅
Lol, same, just the doja cat interview at the met gala
I just see haters personally…she doesn’t claim to have a philosophy degree or anything. She’s just talking and sharing her thoughts on things. Like a friend. And that’s absolutely fine.
As someone who has spent too much time in uni, its definitely not for everyone. I don't think you are necessarily 'smart' if you go to uni/college and it's super rude to insinuate that someone 'should' go. But it is also annoying when people believe that uni just provides you with intellectual knowledge - uni is place to meet different people, make connections, and understand other's opinions. I'm certain you can have these experiences outside of uni, but for some of us, uni is the place where we learned about who we are and met some of our closest friends - so its understandable why people believe uni is for everyone (when its not). In the end, its Emma's choice and saying she needs to college/uni is extremely arrogant.
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Rotten Mango, loves🍓
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i love how kind and understanding you are to other people❤ always seeing good in people but at the same time being realistic
What annoys me is that they say that she doesn’t have anything profound to say and perceive to repeat the exact same thing as if they came up with it themselves, I don’t think they even realise it
Literally like these people were going on about her being in an “echo-chamber”, and I’d just be like, you’re literally jumping on the hate band wagon and allll the comments here are agreeing with you, like you’re not coming up with new ideas either 😂
People are so annoying if you don’t like her don’t watch her lmao
College doesn’t make someone smart or a critical thinker. Some people genuinely don’t want to go to college. I’m a full time student/mom/worker and it’s easy to get burnt out. People are just hateful towards Emma for no reason. Her podcast is just what ever she wants to talk about. Who cares ?
"College makes you a relatable, real person!!" I know a lot of smart, amazing people who couldn't afford or manage college. Equating university enrollment to some sort of superiority is classist (and ableist).
Thank you! Literally just seeing this in a new light now, it truly is ableist and classist. I feel dumb for not being able to finish my diploma, but it was COMPLETELY inaccessible for me with my adhd, I was physically destroyed and couldn’t hand things in on time to pass even though my grades were great and I went above and beyond and hyper fixated like crazy on subjects. It does sting when people say elitist stuff like this, it’s super annoying, podcasts are literally just conversations and not all conversations have to be highly intellectual or structured.
she feels like my high school friend that i went out of touch with once we graduated
Do you agree or disagree with the criticisms toward Emma's pod?
I like her ❤
Disagree. She has great conversation topics and discussions, plus I find her comforting to listen cause it feels like a convo with a friend
Ah influencers. The relatable celebrities that are becoming less and less relatable. I'll exclude you from that Zoe! Love you!
Why the hell should everyone be relatable or represent people? Why? We all watched movies and shows that had NOTHING to do with our lifes and loved it. We all watched interviews with people who have lifes totally different from ours and thats what made it fun. We want to see things that are a different reality sometimes. If I want relatable stuff only, I would record myself and the mundane things around me all day. Not everythign has to be about me.
SOOO true, there’s power in being not being relatable and having new perspectives
Betting 10 bucks TikToks algorithm is gonna show me endless videos of Emma Chamberlin after this
Hahahahhaa fr
Put on the tin foil hat
I love her podcast because she talks about things that pretty much everyone goes through, normal day to day life situations. Even small relatable things she talks abt makes me feel somewhat more understood and it feels like ft with a friend
I think we need to recognise that she is a human too. And not just some creature or machine behind a screen,,, she will grow and change,, and it is not in our place to judge that someone has grown to be different than what we had known before and what we were comfortable with. What we can do is find some creator that suits us , that is relateable to us. We can grow out of situations and people and that is totally okay and it is not their duty to change as we do.(I haven't watch her videos or listen to her podcasts but that's just what i thought )
I love emma's podcast. It's so raw and engaging. As for the college argument, I know so many people in their masters degree that refuse to even touch any topic on emotional intelligence.
Hell i am a millennial and still love Emma!
Even though she is six years younger than me, i still found a lot of her content relatable and refreshing to that of other creators
there was just something about her all over the place chaos that was calming to me
she wasn’t who i would go to for anything profound or super deep, she was just a vibe and a comfort for me
Same! I’m an “Elder Millennial” (1984)…so I’m 17 years older than her. I started following Emma during the pandemic and love her!
what i dont get is why everyone thinks she needs to be relatable. like why don't you enjoy listening to unique people with their own experiences, thoughts and feelings? so weird to me how they seem like they want everyone to be like themselves.
I had a nice LOL when Emma asked herself if she was really about to cry right now. Thats the whole problem with putting your entire life online, your never alone with yourself and the thing gets stuck down inside you.
Are soon as you said going to school is not the same as learning, I clicked the like button. You're so right for that.
I started this video thinking it was going to be somewhat an attack against Emma or just affirming how her "downfall" but it ended up being a great analysis and a very mature one at that. I agree with you!
The thing about influence is that it's fleeting. It never, ever lasts. Stay in school, kids.
Why are people so obsessed with college in my country so many people have degrees but are jobless and they forget skills sre importsnt at the end of the day its just a piece of paper but you csn be successful either way .
never expected emma to be a philosopher, just a girl in her 20s going through thoughts most of us are having and it blows my mind ppl hold her to such a high standard. it’s not like she’s spreading misinformation she brings guests on with more qualifications than she has to talk about certain topics which i actually really appreciate especially her cultish ones
I came to say NO, she is the one not interested in being online, but everybody would still watch her daily vlogs
People need to understand not everything is made for them. They may not find it deep or interesting but others will. I know that I’m not really a podcast listener myself (apart from sometimes listening to trash taste and frenemies) so I know that I’m not going to go out of my way to listen to hers. Also if people genuinely think that university makes you a critical thinker, then I’m concerned. You don’t need to be in education to be able to think and learn, we’re humans that’s what we’re supposed to do in our lives regardless of whatever institutions that exist. Also I’ve met so many people at university who don’t even think in general so thinking critically is too far out of their skill set.
Hello, a real philosopher here. Not all of the thoughts have to be posted on the internet. And yes, to make sure that your “opinion” is valuable, you require a certain degree of education to have a certain amount of background knowledge and expand your thinking. Also, not all of the opinions are knowledge. Whatever such podcasts create is informational garbage. And myself as a philosopher have to fight with it a lot. People get confused when there is so many “thoughts and opinions” and 0 knowledge. I had no idea about this influencer since I am pretty much from a different continent and thinking hygiene requires me not to watch or listen to mediocre stuff (it makes your thinking staffed and slow). But I mean… can we post smth valuable? Instead of just “podcast about my thoughts”? We claim to be the smartest generation but actually to “post” anything out there a century ago you had to have education and earn the right to be published. Therefore the quality of “opinions” was different. And yes, I agree, this “interned wisdom” is a facepalm because if there was any education, the quality of thoughts would have been way higher and more valuable. Most things people say on the internet are said just due to the lack of education.
she has always been relatable to middle class white girls mostly. that’s why i never found her relatable or entertaining at all.
I'm a middle class white girl and I've never found her content entertaining or understood the hype
But I don't think she deserves the hate
Emma seems to have built her career using her emotional intelligence (networking, problem solving, team work etc). I had to learn those things anyway after I'd graduated from the uni. I still am. I also learned tons of stuff through travelling. It seems to me Emma got a better education and earlier than me😅 Plus she didn't waste time at the uni.
but no one is forcing them to listen to her podcast tho..?
I love her podcast! She talks about a lot of relèvent topics considering her young audience such as body image finding confidence dealing with breakups and even fashion and home decor, as an 18 year old girl her podcast is very relatable helpful!
I'm 41 and I think her podcast is great! She's emotionally intelligent and successful, people should listen. ❤
Isn’t she a high school drop out? How is she supposed to go to college?
I 100% thought she was like 26. She’s 22?!?!???
All the charges of her to be uneducated are pure classism, there is no other way to call it. Basically all over the western world the cultural field is a prerogative of high class people, it's a locked environment; you can access to it only if you belong to specific social groups. Can she improve? Of course she can but, really, this is not the point: people are not criticize her for her content, they are just hating her with classist insults.
I still think her podcast is relatable I love her content to this day whether its something I could do someday or not its good entertainment I enjoy. She seems like a really caring genuine person. I had no idea people dislike her now... and it's okay to have changes in taste of what they enjoy. But is downfall taking it too far???
reactions to the video: zoe always such a great job explaining things and every point she made was so true. but in the end its important that we use our time/money etc to invest in what we want to do, and what makes us most happy or content.
It’s definitely not her “downfall” she had an incredibly successful career and that isn’t stopping anytime soon.
Emma seems like a nice person, maybe she should take a break from social media and get threapy and not talking to random strangers about your problems ❤
College is such a privalege, I would love to go in for fashion and psychology so bad because they're my huge passions ):
I have never heard of her until today. I don't understand what the fascination is with her. it just goes to show there are a lot of people with low self-esteem and self-worth.
She knows more about THAT life than anyone of us.. she’s a star. People need to chill. I love Emma and I’m a 30 year old girl from Sweden. I don’t have to relate to her, I just love her personality.
i didn't even know who was Emma Chamberlain before this video 🥲
I'm now realizing that this is the channel I need in my 20s
I agree with everything you said!!!!! YESSSSSSSS thank you for sticking up for her and being KIND!
Ppl just can’t not like something without needing it to be problematic to justify their opinion
I remember Emma saying the first podcast she tried to produce was about science and it the terms got too complex to make content about. I understand that when one opens science textbooks there is math and it can be daunting to learn by yourself this topics and later have to make a podcast about it. She gave up on this project, and decided to talk about more social topics like relationships, loneliness, strategies to be productive. I think that many of the followers know that Emma was very active in studying in highschool and had discipline. She also got into reading for fun. Maybe is ok to wish that she can learn more about fields that we see she has an interest in. I do feel she could become more sophisticated in her knowledge, because staying shallow just to be relatable is not cool. I think she could become better if she becomes more knowledgeful in a topic, like social relationships (Social Sciences) , a formal education will give her more confidence when she speaks and she can become wiser for herself and maybe, if she chooses for others. We should always try to become better not try to imitate a persona we created in the past for the like of others.
Having an education doesn't mean everyone who has a qualification is intelligent. Many are clapping seals who lack critical thinking skills. Many intelligent people don't go down the road of academia. I use to assume "educated" meant a super intelligent person, but most of the graduates I use to be friends with, were just smug, someone who just wants to make their entire identity about their piece of paper yet still cannot land the job with a lot of debt. Education is important, but be intelligent... not to project it.
I think the recent hate train directed towards her can be said due to the constant fear of falling behind among our generation. She initially started out and became popular by being a relatable and open person on the internet, she was really open about her struggles and hardships in the age where many influencers were portraying their lives as "perfect" and "aesthetic". That's why people felt a sort of relatability and kinship towards her. But now that she has become really successful as a gen z icon and now mainly focusing on her bussines and podcast where she talks about her struggles and philosophical topics really seems unappealing towards her audience, who now have grown up or became an adult facing different types of struggle in their day to day life. So seeing someone already successful talking about things really may not relatable to her audience
It is insane that people expect her to be relatable after several years of insane fame and money. That would change anyone and everyone, that goes double for child stars. 100% she is not relatable because she literally can’t relate to the adult world as a regular person, she has not ever had that experience. She had a normal childhood but her audience has aged with her but not with her content because they have all had to be adults in the real world and she literally never has. It is not her “fault” and it is kind of crazy for anyone to expect her to be that same person that she was in 2018.
i love emma, everyone’s different. if u don’t relate u don’t, i’m still only 17 but i’m also somewhat in her shoes. not everyone is interested in the same basic life goals everyone pushes u. we all hav different things to figure out, underrated or not
tbh I think it was just a slump in her podcast for a while - she went more personal and random again, and I find the most enjoyable. basically, she doesn't drop so many definitions anymore. I lowkey feel like it was just a mid season and it's all cool again. perhaps a busy schedule thing
why are people trying to roast Emma for not going to college when Adin Ross is out here not even having finished high school and being a menace to society? get your priorities straight people
I love emma’s podcast…it’s nth RENOWNED but she’s literally just a young adult talking? It’s very relatable cause she’s discussing and thinking about the same things I do. People just want to be miserable and hate on her for something
This just seems like a fan making a video to support this girl. Very biased
she is
I really appreciate the kindness and compassion you approach this topic with. She’s still young. And we learn continuously throughout our lives, changing. I agree that the “needs to go to college” argument sounds elitist and honestly quite old fashioned. No one has it all figured out, and Emma is trying to say that she does. There’s some really kind comments on here! I loved the point about just because she’s got a bit of hate on tiktok recently, it doesn’t mean she’s gonna change herself for that- we connect with different people at different times, and so I think there’s an audience for everyone/everything.
Eh, sounds like some people are jealous that Emma didn't need to go to college to be thoughtful and successful.
I adore Emma. Her videos really help me through depressing times. She's nostalgic, and fresh, and new,all at one time!❤❤❤
She seems more authentic and genuine now and that’s sad because you can clearly see how much pain she’s in. You can literally see the depression appear in her eyes in the past few years. I never liked her or her content but I’m realizing now that she actually is trying to be real and I respect that I feel bad for her getting all this hate and videos being made about her at such a young age when she’s trying to do her best. I wanna give her a hug.
Edit: also shout out a youtuber who encourages discussions even if people have differing opinions I love that.
If nobody hates you then you weren't real enough. That's the price you gotta pay for it and yes now she's finally being true to herself, and she has to learn to accept it
(as in no it's not a good thing that people hate on each other but if they do, you have to learn to not let it bother you)
People just have high expectations of her. I never watched or followed her but as I can see, she was kind of a role model to look up to, for most of her audience. She seemed like a safe place to escape to. Her audience caught up with her. Either she has to develop her philosophy and thinking skills or her audience. There is no other way. Important to know is that just going to college will not make you a better or smarter person. If you are willing to develop yourself, maybe but there is no guarantee. Just a bachelor will not show your intelligence 😅, this will never be a valid reason. Reading the same book at different ages will always be different, so the view towards people we looked up to. If they are so smart they could literally start to read and teach themselves deport thinking skills. Emma has a specific audience as targets and these are pre teens or teenagers, which is okay 👍
She's just jealous of emma's fame. Like stfu. The fact that I actually used to like zoe.
As Einstein said, you can’t judge a goldfish because it can’t climb a tree
I don’t think it matters that she dropped out or didn’t go to college. I don’t think she has to go to college. She can talk about whatever she wants on her podcast. However, being ‘bored’ is a privilege. I can’t blame people for not connecting with her content anymore because it’s true that she is out of touch. I honestly and personally can’t bare to listen to self-pitying ‘I’m so sad, I’m so bored’ videos. A lot of people don’t have time to wallow or be bored. From the lower class struggling to provide for themselves and their family, wars and famine in other countries, i cant empathise with sad girls in their mansions who really do nothing other than sell their coffee and attend met galas with the other sheltered celebs. Its not even a case of ‘rich person bad’, there are many people with high paying jobs who benefit the world like doctors but influencers and celebrities are merely pretentious. It’s true that she should try and keep herself busy but of course college isn’t the only option, but I don’t blame people for disliking her.
the media just always does this. first it’s “we love this celeb!” then its “idk why but i kinda hate this celeb” then its “idk why everyones hating on this celeb when they actually did nothing wrong, you guys are so mean!” and then everyone loves them again. the same thing happened with ed sheeran and debby ryan, and it’s already happened with emma once. the back and fourth just keeps going
I only saw her at events interview stars and she seemed so sweet...😅
Luckily I didn't look into her further...
off topic but i LOVE ur spiky bracelet, where’d you get it?
Everyone is just jealous because they think her life is better than theirs. I relate to her a lot since my life is quite easy at the moment.
I think Emma has become a great conversationalist. I think her met gala interviews (and hot ones too) are so fun and she makes people comfortable. I think that maybe if she switched to a different outlet- like if she was a late night talk show host? Like a new gen Z Jimmy Fallon? Or a cooking show? I think she has so much potential, but I think ALL podcasts can start to be an echo chamber after a while. It’s just like someone talking to themselves for an hour? I think her “relatability” has just gone out of style for now, which is unfortunate.
I love, how you started the video by saying that everyone knows Emma Chamberlain, but I heard her name for the first time in this video😂
I havent watched the video but i discovered her in 2024 and i didnt perceive her as a fallen but rather a risen lol how is a wise and humble mindset with millions of subscriber an unsucessful person
Striking to do a phd in philosophy, I like her podcast. I like her feeling like being a friend. If you want someone talking about philosophy, read a fucking Plato. End of discussion.
Hello from Texas ❤
Her instagram is all about red carpets, the Fashion week, designer clothes etc…It’s not what I’m interested in.
Plus I’m French, I live in Paris and it’s funny to see how she romanticizes France and Europe😬Anyway I miss old Emma…but I guess it’s not compatible with her new status anymore.
anyone just learning about her? only me? ok
Don’t celebrity worship no matter who it is.
im so glad u made a video about this
Let the girl do a podcast and stop profiting off people's downfall.
Yes I can’t help but to feel like this video is a hate piece! How do you have 2.8 million followers and make a video claiming the downfall of another UA-cam influencer. This video is irresponsible and mean.
I love Emma ❤
i watched emma around 5 years ago till maybe last year, and i've only listened to maybe 2 or 3 episodes of her podcast
it was never that serious, imo, everything that she has put out was always personal in a way that it's like she's thinking out loud and on the internet, processing her thoughts as she's filming, personally i've never taken what she said seriously like a source of information ykwim, it's more like an entertainment since it is her own thoughts on camera, like it's kind of hard to explain so i hope it makes sense
also, i've felt this since she stopped putting much "effort" in her videos, i.e. forcing the algorithm using thumbnails and loud titles, she's changed professionally to another tier of popularity, yes the met gala, vogue, fashion week, the new house, honestly i think popularity isn't the right word but the brain is not braining atm, example that i think is similar is with nailea devora but i think nai is a bit grounded but still closely in that category of popularity
i think the change is for the better, i'm glad that she's grown so much, like it's crazy how much relatability can do, and whatever she's gonna do with people putting out bullshit on her, i hope she's not taking it seriously as i didn't to her shit lol, do what you wanna do girl ong
This is just sad, why would you make an entire video about the 'downfall' of someone? Why did you feel the need to make this?
Why not? People have to analyze to learn. She is looking up answers to questions and allegations
Same
@@melione_ "allegations" lmao. It isn't that serious, emma her content is just generic teenage girl talk and besides she's not harming anyone so who cares?
i have never seen this girl in my life :0 am i out of touch or what
Tbh I don’t find anything wrong with Emma’s podcast… I think a lot of micro influencers or wanna be influencers are actually wishing for her downfall and trying to create a trend of her end.
You have such a pleasant rich speaking voice
Genz so toxic 😂
I can't believe I got here this early
Same XD
Favorite part when she said being able to code is useless. Coders run the world. Whole reason you have fame is because someone coded this website, also damn guess I didn’t learn how to be resourceful in trade school. I forgot Only bachelor degrees deserve respect.
Idk why she wouldn’t want to go to college and major in philosophy and psychology since she’s so interested in the topics . I think it would do wonders for her . I majored in both and it’s completely changed the way I think and understand the world. I don’t think she would regret it… but idk if she would be committed bc it is a big commitment
The irony that you’re all criticising Emma for trying to be a philosopher and then this hometown hog (never heard of her) does the exact same thing 😭😭😭