Very good and very bad. If this fails again the tending than they threw a pick away for nothing which will set the Sens back. Nevertheless, this may finally work hopefully.
I'm all in favour of improving our goaltending but we've tried this with Murray, Talbot and now Ullmark? So say we trade for and sign Ullmark - how do we know we'll be substantially better? Don't mean to be a poopy pants but I feel like the Sens are so weak on D that Ullmark will also be put out to slaughter like the goalies that came before him. Love the channel! Great breakdown
@@AnjunaDreams agree. Maybe we should give our current tenders a chance as sometimes the next year they get better. It can take awhile for a player to adjust to a new team. We have a bigger problem with defence and scoring with the 3rd and 4th line. We should try and improve in those areas.
Another benefit from having Linus is he's a good man so he won't be involved in any off-ice issues AND he hates warm weather so he won't be tempted to leave for warmer pastures.
Seems like it's gonna happen, but Garrioch said the Sens are also linked to Gibson, who I'm a big fan of. So tbh I'd be happy with either one, but Ullmark seems like the likely option. As long as we don't give up too much and get him under extension I have no problem with it.
Agreed completely, as long as he’s signed. Detroit and Vegas also has interest in Ullmark so we shall see… makes sense Staios is doing his due diligence.
Agree with all your points. Just get this one done, no matter what. Mine is not a statement of desperation fueled by emotion, it's just common sense. I went to Boston in February and watched him play against the Kings(DJ was behind the bench, Talbot was the backup, go figure). He was fantastic. The game could have been his, but Brant Clarke bolted out of the box unchecked and, in OT, got one past Ullmark for his first NHL goal. It happens. The rest of the game, he was in position the entire time. You covered all the points very well. You posted the stats that needed to be posted. You brought up the metrics...this really is a no brainer. But you also brought up a good point, the B's are under a little bit of pressure, so Staios can perhaps wait them out for a slightly better exchange. Doesn't hurt to try. I will feel really good about next year if we can finalize this. GSG!
Glad you enjoyed Adam! And agreed, Ullmark is an absolute beast and isn’t your typical goalie. He’s easily top ten in the league and would bring us to playoff contenders instantly. Again thank you for watching and GSG!!
@@hotpandoraplayzgamez2604 You know what's funny? I was just tossing around the thought...albeit, a ridiculous thought, but still...what if the Cats get blown out tomorrow night, Bill Zito loses his dong and starts tossing everything around the skybox, then decides to ship Tank and Matthew off to the Sens for prospects? Could you imagine? I could. But that's all it is, imagination, but....would.
as a Bruins fan, Ullmark is generally a solid goalie. I def believe the Bruins team defense contributes to his great stats...he's also had some nightmare playoff games
This is one of the most informative videos you’ve made. I’m starting to lean to the trade. I was never against it. I just thought that it would never happen.
Ullmark would be a nice upgrade, but I have concerns 1. I hope we don't have to overpay 2. I hope they have an extension in place 3. We need a way to move one of our current goalies without giving up a lot of assets 4. Most importantly, we need to play better team D, or else, even the best goalie in the world won't make that big of a difference
Curiously, flipping Chychrun is on the table, according to several sources. Yet, the Bruins aren't trying to figure out how to sign/extend him for the reported $7M-$8M that the Hockey News claims he should be looking for. So, it makes a rather one-sided presentation. I do not believe the Bruins should move Ullmark unless they are overwhelmed. He could easily have a better season that Swayman. Of course, #1 picks get thrown around a lot before the playoff push. That's how the Bruins lost their #25 (in the 1st) for the Bertuzzi rental that the Sens now hold. Maybe that pick could produce a decent NHLer in a few years...oh, boy! So, I'd be holding fast if I were the Bruins. He'll have great stats, again, before teams start throwing their assets around whilst they make a run.
Hello from Halifax N.S. Hello fellow Canadian ;) I would agree 100% with your key points. I've read and heard what you have. Only thing I read different was.. Bs don't want Forsberg on the return because they want to play young Goalie Bussi as backup. I heard it's the term for Ully that's holding it up. But who knows. I am a Bruins fan, so to get Chychrun would be great. It would help both teams. And even though I'm a Bs fan, I like the Sens, don't mind the Oilers and Vancouver as my favorite Canadian teams. So I'd like to see the Sens do well. Just not the Leafs, fak them 🤣🤣 But thanks for the vid.
Ullmark would definitely improve the Sens chances of making the playoffs for the next 5-6 years. The price will be a premium though, if you want a player of this caliber, especially now that Detroit and Vegas and possibly a couple other teams have started talking with the Bruins about Ullmark.
We could, but frankly two seconds are worth more than the late first… plus it’s been said that the elite talent drops off quite a bit after 15 or so, so you’d be getting roughly the same prospects either way to be honest… first just sounds better for selling purposes if that makes sense haha.
It's sounds like Bruins are looking to fleece the Sens. At this point I'd rather just stick with what we have and be patient. We've been fleeced too much the last few years.
Honestly, that's too bad. I would anticipate excellence in hockey from Canadian teams and I believe they do, as well. Yeah, that's a different fix. Ya can fix the accounting records, but if your systems are bad- why bother?
If Sens move Chicky then a top 4 RD better be coming back, can’t make our defence even worse and expect any goalie to be good in Ottawa. We’ve done this for years now…FIX THE DEFENCE
If we look at advanced stats it reveals that korpi, sogaard, and forsy gave up a combined 34 more goals than they should've this season. Ppl think Jacques didnt make a drastic difference but that's bc the goaltending was pretty much unplayable. Had we just had average goaltending we probs make the playoffs.
@@SENSTALK Finally! Honestly thought we’d get a better return but I’m just happy it’s someone that can play in the top four on the right side. Unbelievable taken this many years to simply address that🤦♂️
Bruins fan here...Ullmark and Swayman r the best tandem in NHL and id love it if Bruins could keep both him and Swayman cuz theyre great together but its really not feasible to have 2 goalies both making 5+ million a year on ur cap so sadly ones guna have to move on and that guy is guna be Ullmark!? It sucks but its part of the sport!? Whoever gets Ullmark tho is probably guna have to pay up for him!? Ullmark should command a trade equal to or better than what calgary got for markstrom!? If Calgary can get a 1st round pick and a good D man then Bruins should be able to get the same kinda value or better for ullmark cuz ullmark clearly had been much better than markstrom has been!? So they should get a better haul than calgary did with markstrom!!? The Bruins dont need to trade ullmark right away tho but i for see a trade happening b4 draft most likely!? A 1st round pick and chychrun and maybe something else could be ok!? Bruins do need a left shit D man so chychrun would be good!? Ideally id love to see Bruins bring in Elias Lindholm, thatd take care of their biggest need...a #1 center!? Necas would fill their need for a top 6 scoring winger, and chychrun would fill their need for a left shot D man!? Plus chychrun is pretty good offensively tor a D mam which bruins could use!? Bruins really need some more backend scoring and i wish theyd shoot more often from out high and look for more tips and stuff!? To me it just seems like they dont do it near as much as other teams and other teams have lots of success with it!?
If the 5y, $35m ($7 per) extension rumour is true, that’s $11m per year on goalies (including Korpi’s $4). That’s ridiculous. Would probably put us top 5 in the league for how much money is spent on goalies. But our goaltending would still be middle of the pack. 👎 Chychrun and the 25th overall is pretty steep for a 30yo goalie that would come with a brutal contract. Markstrom is arguably a better goalie, or let’s even say equal to Ullmark. But he landed a future first and a random throw in. I understand there’s an extension involved which can change trade value. But it’s still a lot for Ullmark IMO. But alas, Ottawa is in a desperate position, and other teams will take advantage of us. Staios has little leverage.
@@SENSTALK Still putting in the effort to reply to messages from 9 days ago. I know it’s been busy for you this time of year. You’re the best, Brandon. Love your dedication to both your work as a UA-camr, and to your fans. 💪😎
...and he'll be looking for his big payday (ie $7M+), so it's another rental. But OTT wants to make sure their end is able to extend (at quite a good deal). So, what? The Bruins take on Chychrun at Lohrei's expense for a year? Is this all just to get a #25 overall pick?
@@ayashin19 On the stats, I get it. And he's a better than average player who wants a big payday. Do the Bruins want to put that much (eg $7M) into that lot? Would they be better off with Ullmark at $5M or Chychrun @ $7M+? Consider that they'd make the playoffs every year with Swayman and Ullmark, whilst be better at some times than others.
@@SENSTALK what's your take on Chabby being dealt? rumours have been quiet, but it seems to be coming back here and there. All too say that all of those players weren't pick by this management, so theirs no ties to any of them.
I usually agree with all the stuff you say here but not today. Craig Anderson is HIGHLY overrated here in Ottawa. In his 10 seasons with the Sens, they ended their annual playoff birth with average goaltending. Remember 1 run to the playoffs (Hamburglar run) was achieved despite his under average play of the first half of the season. Sens made it to the 3rd round because Chris Neil saved them in 2017…not Anderson. Anderson let in 1 of the softest goals in Sens history in double OT to clinch a SC chance in 2017. Absolutely overrated but something I’ve noticed with this city…especially Sens fans is that we celebrate mediocrity, it’s disgusting and if you don’t believe me, check that Ring of Honour, check DJ Smirh, check with Dorion. Extensions after extensions for mediocrity to basement seasons. If Ullmark comes to Ottawa, he will be the best since Ray Emery and if not him, Hasek (oh my groin), and if not him Lalime. I say Lalime.
Look at Craig Anderson between 2011-2015… dude in 2014 was probably the most underrated tendy and would’ve gotten vezina votes if he stayed healthy… Andy also is top 3 in many USA all time goalie stats…he’s definitely the best goalie in our history. Lalime is a close second though no doubt. And Hasek technically is the best but he was only here for a year. Regardless, thanks for checking out the video my friend! GSG.
@@SENSTALK exactly…would’ve, could’ve, maybe should’ve but didn’t. Just like he never led us to a SC run. Just like he was the goaltender for all those non playoff birth seasons. The best he did was for hot in 2017 to his deepest playoff run only to let in the softest goal in a SC birth situation…he choked because he’s a joke.
I agree with some aspects considering his struggles past the 2017 season did contribute to this team's downfall but he was getting up there in age by then which is to be expected anyways. When he had to show up he did and we're thankful for his services in 2012-2017.
How do we feel about a potential deal, Sens army?
Scared like always🤣
Very good and very bad. If this fails again the tending than they threw a pick away for nothing which will set the Sens back. Nevertheless, this may finally work hopefully.
I'm all in favour of improving our goaltending but we've tried this with Murray, Talbot and now Ullmark? So say we trade for and sign Ullmark - how do we know we'll be substantially better? Don't mean to be a poopy pants but I feel like the Sens are so weak on D that Ullmark will also be put out to slaughter like the goalies that came before him.
Love the channel! Great breakdown
@@AnjunaDreams agree. Maybe we should give our current tenders a chance as sometimes the next year they get better. It can take awhile for a player to adjust to a new team. We have a bigger problem with defence and scoring with the 3rd and 4th line. We should try and improve in those areas.
@@matthewgregory8218, they’ve had numerous chances to make their picks work. As long as they keep Brady, I wouldn’t give up on them.
Ullmark is a absolute stud your lucky if your the team to get him
Best breakdown of this that I’ve seen in the internet, on either side. Well done Sir.
Thank you my friend, I appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed!
Another benefit from having Linus is he's a good man so he won't be involved in any off-ice issues AND he hates warm weather so he won't be tempted to leave for warmer pastures.
Seems like it's gonna happen, but Garrioch said the Sens are also linked to Gibson, who I'm a big fan of. So tbh I'd be happy with either one, but Ullmark seems like the likely option. As long as we don't give up too much and get him under extension I have no problem with it.
Agreed completely, as long as he’s signed. Detroit and Vegas also has interest in Ullmark so we shall see… makes sense Staios is doing his due diligence.
Ha Ha Ha, Sens aren't linked to Gibson, As all Canadian teams are on his no trade list.
Agree with all your points. Just get this one done, no matter what. Mine is not a statement of desperation fueled by emotion, it's just common sense. I went to Boston in February and watched him play against the Kings(DJ was behind the bench, Talbot was the backup, go figure). He was fantastic. The game could have been his, but Brant Clarke bolted out of the box unchecked and, in OT, got one past Ullmark for his first NHL goal. It happens. The rest of the game, he was in position the entire time.
You covered all the points very well. You posted the stats that needed to be posted. You brought up the metrics...this really is a no brainer. But you also brought up a good point, the B's are under a little bit of pressure, so Staios can perhaps wait them out for a slightly better exchange. Doesn't hurt to try. I will feel really good about next year if we can finalize this. GSG!
Glad you enjoyed Adam! And agreed, Ullmark is an absolute beast and isn’t your typical goalie. He’s easily top ten in the league and would bring us to playoff contenders instantly.
Again thank you for watching and GSG!!
Do you think they could pull off a rip-off trade like the tarasenjo trade?
@@hotpandoraplayzgamez2604 You know what's funny? I was just tossing around the thought...albeit, a ridiculous thought, but still...what if the Cats get blown out tomorrow night, Bill Zito loses his dong and starts tossing everything around the skybox, then decides to ship Tank and Matthew off to the Sens for prospects?
Could you imagine? I could. But that's all it is, imagination, but....would.
@@adamtaylor31 that would be nuts
A savior in goal is a bit thick. They need team defense. Part of that is a capable goal keeper. Love the show!
Thanks for tuning in Scott, GSG!
as a Bruins fan, Ullmark is generally a solid goalie. I def believe the Bruins team defense contributes to his great stats...he's also had some nightmare playoff games
I mean as a Sens fan just getting to the playoffs would be grear
Ottawa goes through a lot of goalies, why is that?
We suck and have a subpar defense strategy leaving the goalies out to dry
I mean Mitchell said it haha 😭
This is one of the most informative videos you’ve made. I’m starting to lean to the trade. I was never against it. I just thought that it would never happen.
Glad you enjoyed! :) thanks for watching !
Ullmark would be a nice upgrade, but I have concerns
1. I hope we don't have to overpay
2. I hope they have an extension in place
3. We need a way to move one of our current goalies without giving up a lot of assets
4. Most importantly, we need to play better team D, or else, even the best goalie in the world won't make that big of a difference
Curiously, flipping Chychrun is on the table, according to several sources. Yet, the Bruins aren't trying to figure out how to sign/extend him for the reported $7M-$8M that the Hockey News claims he should be looking for. So, it makes a rather one-sided presentation. I do not believe the Bruins should move Ullmark unless they are overwhelmed. He could easily have a better season that Swayman. Of course, #1 picks get thrown around a lot before the playoff push. That's how the Bruins lost their #25 (in the 1st) for the Bertuzzi rental that the Sens now hold. Maybe that pick could produce a decent NHLer in a few years...oh, boy! So, I'd be holding fast if I were the Bruins. He'll have great stats, again, before teams start throwing their assets around whilst they make a run.
Hello from Halifax N.S. Hello fellow Canadian ;)
I would agree 100% with your key points. I've read and heard what you have. Only thing I read different was.. Bs don't want Forsberg on the return because they want to play young Goalie Bussi as backup. I heard it's the term for Ully that's holding it up. But who knows. I am a Bruins fan, so to get Chychrun would be great. It would help both teams. And even though I'm a Bs fan, I like the Sens, don't mind the Oilers and Vancouver as my favorite Canadian teams. So I'd like to see the Sens do well. Just not the Leafs, fak them 🤣🤣 But thanks for the vid.
Hello from Ottawa Ontario! Thanks for tuning in! Fuck the leafs indeed and GSG!
Would love a goalie Jersey this guy might do it
Ullmark would definitely improve the Sens chances of making the playoffs for the next 5-6 years. The price will be a premium though, if you want a player of this caliber, especially now that Detroit and Vegas and possibly a couple other teams have started talking with the Bruins about Ullmark.
We got him during a holiday sale I suppose then haha
Should Ottawa spend a first in such a deep draft? Can't we give our 2 seconds instead? That 39th overall will be similar to a late 1st in most years
We could, but frankly two seconds are worth more than the late first… plus it’s been said that the elite talent drops off quite a bit after 15 or so, so you’d be getting roughly the same prospects either way to be honest… first just sounds better for selling purposes if that makes sense haha.
It's sounds like Bruins are looking to fleece the Sens. At this point I'd rather just stick with what we have and be patient. We've been fleeced too much the last few years.
We fleeced them!
Swayman was not “equally” impressive. He won the job because he played better. Ullmark is very good. Swayman can be great.
Both are great imo
It doesn’t seem to matter what goalie we get. Once they get here they suck. Hopefully things change.
Honestly, that's too bad. I would anticipate excellence in hockey from Canadian teams and I believe they do, as well. Yeah, that's a different fix. Ya can fix the accounting records, but if your systems are bad- why bother?
If Sens move Chicky then a top 4 RD better be coming back, can’t make our defence even worse and expect any goalie to be good in Ottawa. We’ve done this for years now…FIX THE DEFENCE
If we look at advanced stats it reveals that korpi, sogaard, and forsy gave up a combined 34 more goals than they should've this season. Ppl think Jacques didnt make a drastic difference but that's bc the goaltending was pretty much unplayable. Had we just had average goaltending we probs make the playoffs.
That’s what we got :)
@@SENSTALK Finally! Honestly thought we’d get a better return but I’m just happy it’s someone that can play in the top four on the right side. Unbelievable taken this many years to simply address that🤦♂️
Bruins fan here...Ullmark and Swayman r the best tandem in NHL and id love it if Bruins could keep both him and Swayman cuz theyre great together but its really not feasible to have 2 goalies both making 5+ million a year on ur cap so sadly ones guna have to move on and that guy is guna be Ullmark!? It sucks but its part of the sport!? Whoever gets Ullmark tho is probably guna have to pay up for him!? Ullmark should command a trade equal to or better than what calgary got for markstrom!? If Calgary can get a 1st round pick and a good D man then Bruins should be able to get the same kinda value or better for ullmark cuz ullmark clearly had been much better than markstrom has been!? So they should get a better haul than calgary did with markstrom!!? The Bruins dont need to trade ullmark right away tho but i for see a trade happening b4 draft most likely!? A 1st round pick and chychrun and maybe something else could be ok!? Bruins do need a left shit D man so chychrun would be good!? Ideally id love to see Bruins bring in Elias Lindholm, thatd take care of their biggest need...a #1 center!? Necas would fill their need for a top 6 scoring winger, and chychrun would fill their need for a left shot D man!? Plus chychrun is pretty good offensively tor a D mam which bruins could use!? Bruins really need some more backend scoring and i wish theyd shoot more often from out high and look for more tips and stuff!? To me it just seems like they dont do it near as much as other teams and other teams have lots of success with it!?
Ullmark @ $5M for 7 years has some thinking...is it better to keep him, instead? Note: already some stories about that out there...
How do you feel about the fleece job by Staios?
If the 5y, $35m ($7 per) extension rumour is true, that’s $11m per year on goalies (including Korpi’s $4). That’s ridiculous. Would probably put us top 5 in the league for how much money is spent on goalies. But our goaltending would still be middle of the pack. 👎
Chychrun and the 25th overall is pretty steep for a 30yo goalie that would come with a brutal contract. Markstrom is arguably a better goalie, or let’s even say equal to Ullmark. But he landed a future first and a random throw in. I understand there’s an extension involved which can change trade value. But it’s still a lot for Ullmark IMO. But alas, Ottawa is in a desperate position, and other teams will take advantage of us. Staios has little leverage.
The Bruins had the same problem(s) on defense a few years back as they were carrying Mike Reilly's $2.66M for a while as he was playing in Providence.
Got him for way less !
@@SENSTALK Still putting in the effort to reply to messages from 9 days ago. I know it’s been busy for you this time of year. You’re the best, Brandon. Love your dedication to both your work as a UA-camr, and to your fans. 💪😎
Boston doesnt want chychrun. He is garbage in his own zone. With a mighty minus 30 on the season. No thanks
...and he'll be looking for his big payday (ie $7M+), so it's another rental. But OTT wants to make sure their end is able to extend (at quite a good deal). So, what? The Bruins take on Chychrun at Lohrei's expense for a year? Is this all just to get a #25 overall pick?
Chyc would be sick on boston though anybody is a minus 30 in ottawa
1 down year doesn't make a player garbage. What a shit take
@@ayashin19 On the stats, I get it. And he's a better than average player who wants a big payday. Do the Bruins want to put that much (eg $7M) into that lot? Would they be better off with Ullmark at $5M or Chychrun @ $7M+? Consider that they'd make the playoffs every year with Swayman and Ullmark, whilst be better at some times than others.
Hopefully Ullmark works here. Go Oilers and go senators keep the cup in Canada.
Sens gotta bring it home next year if Edmonton doesn’t !
Go Florida
bring in ulmark
will be happy if it happens, but how many times have we seen a rumour come to nothing...
Whats going on with the flyers too?
Chychrun I believe is involved somewhat in both…all I know is he’s definitely gonna be dealt soon.
@@SENSTALK what's your take on Chabby being dealt? rumours have been quiet, but it seems to be coming back here and there. All too say that all of those players weren't pick by this management, so theirs no ties to any of them.
@@crashthenetcommunityit won’t happen. Sens made that decision a while ago. 8mil is too much to trade.
I usually agree with all the stuff you say here but not today. Craig Anderson is HIGHLY overrated here in Ottawa. In his 10 seasons with the Sens, they ended their annual playoff birth with average goaltending. Remember 1 run to the playoffs (Hamburglar run) was achieved despite his under average play of the first half of the season. Sens made it to the 3rd round because Chris Neil saved them in 2017…not Anderson. Anderson let in 1 of the softest goals in Sens history in double OT to clinch a SC chance in 2017. Absolutely overrated but something I’ve noticed with this city…especially Sens fans is that we celebrate mediocrity, it’s disgusting and if you don’t believe me, check that Ring of Honour, check DJ Smirh, check with Dorion. Extensions after extensions for mediocrity to basement seasons. If Ullmark comes to Ottawa, he will be the best since Ray Emery and if not him, Hasek (oh my groin), and if not him Lalime. I say Lalime.
Look at Craig Anderson between 2011-2015… dude in 2014 was probably the most underrated tendy and would’ve gotten vezina votes if he stayed healthy… Andy also is top 3 in many USA all time goalie stats…he’s definitely the best goalie in our history. Lalime is a close second though no doubt. And Hasek technically is the best but he was only here for a year.
Regardless, thanks for checking out the video my friend! GSG.
@@SENSTALK exactly…would’ve, could’ve, maybe should’ve but didn’t. Just like he never led us to a SC run. Just like he was the goaltender for all those non playoff birth seasons. The best he did was for hot in 2017 to his deepest playoff run only to let in the softest goal in a SC birth situation…he choked because he’s a joke.
I agree with some aspects considering his struggles past the 2017 season did contribute to this team's downfall but he was getting up there in age by then which is to be expected anyways. When he had to show up he did and we're thankful for his services in 2012-2017.
My prediction is Stevie Y and the Red Wings pull the rug out from under us on this one. Last minute disappointment incoming
Thank goodness that didn’t happen
Lifelong Bruins fan. I’ve heard rumors that the deal does not include Ulmark. The deal is Swayman for both of Ottawas 1st round picks.
Interesting...if you're not kidding. Ullmark for 7 years @ $5M is a much better deal than Swayman for $8M+.
@@SomeOne-uy4kjand that's why the Sens suck
Lmao wtf who said that. As a Bruins fan i follow all of our rumors and NOT A SINGLE PERSON has said that we are moving Sway
Your delusional if u think boston traded swaymsn
How did this work out?