I’ve thought about this since I was a little kid. We were supposed to view God as a loving father but to me he just seemed violent and tyrannical, I used to be so scared.
There is no argument there. I've said the same forever. Over 100 God supported wars in bible. In ancient times, God has killed 2.5 million. Satan, 10. Who is the violent, blood thirsty guy here. It ain't Satan. Frankly, I feel sorry for Satan. He ain't as bad as they make him out to be. In fact, he is pretty decent. 😂😂
ya'll killing it! My family has been trapped in this cult since the 1950s so I really appreciate how difficult it is to do what you're doing.. It shows that you have family still inside, because you both approach this with respect and consideration while being brutally truthful.
My favorite part of the Bible is where it says God is slow to anger, merciful, and forgiving...yet God made two grizzly bears fatally maul 42 kids, tearing them to pieces, because they called an old man bald headed....42 kids eaten by two bears, for name calling.
On Point you two! Who wouldn't 'Oppose' this? The indiscriminate death toll, Child sacrifices (Abraham and Issacs), Incest, Gang Grape. And the rabbit hole goes down even further with more research.
I’ve ALWAYS thought something was off ever since I heard about the story of Job. Like all of his family was taken away, what ‘loving’ God would do all that just to teach a lesson?!?
But did you read the end of the story everything he lost was restored to him, and it wasn’t even about Job. It was a battle between God and Satan Satan was trying to trick God into cursing Job.
It's quite possible that Satan is pretending to be GOD. Maybe the Bible has been twisted, no?After all he is the ruler of this world and not GOD according to the Bible. 😱😱😱 It doesn't add up.
I have a friend whose ex husband told their kids when he dropped them back off at home after a meeting (thankfully he is no longer to take them to the meetings or assemblies anymore), but the last time, he actually told his kids before they get out his car to go in the house.. “tell your mom the black horse is coming for her..”😨😳 why JWs think it’s ok to lowkey use Bible verses to threaten people? The 6 sisters who are my bullies have done that to me too. And also a couple of elders. But j JWs don’t think of themselves as making threats to anyone… which makes it worse..
You two are truly growing, I love how much you are innerstanding it.. love to hear from you… I was hurt about this untruth organization to..🤦🏾♀️ so sad, I disassociated myself for about 6 months , before i spoke my truths I found in the Bible, they did not like that at all. Called for a meeting, I felt like a criminal. Who holds judicial meetings?? Judges! you are not my judge, Jah knew before I ever even admitted to you, husband and I moved on 2 yrs later, “ no you’re a liar Jehovah hates liars?? I told you what happened, you didn’t tell me what happened.. smh 🤦🏾♀️ thank you for showing me, the 6 brothers in judicial office, that night in JW court,, exactly why I had disassociated myself over 6 months ago…. Y’all keep telling these truths, so many are still stuck, in that fake loyalty..
Great video. I was born into the JWs. I knew by age 12 that I was an atheist. I literally was an atheist being raised a JW. I always wondered why they picked the most horrible character in the Bible to idolize. I was growing up in a violent home so I automatically couldn't relate to the Jehovah character. I even asked an elder if god was dead because he wasnt doing anything anymore. Lol They just thought I was being rebellious and so didn't provide me any answes. Thing with JWs is they do not know how to deal with people who have no god beliefs. They assume since I was indoctrinated since birth and as a 12 year old I was programmed already. JWs failed to prove to me the Jehovah character existed so I never developed beliefs in gods so then obviously didn't accept their doctrines. I was waiting to age out. I feel lucky that I never feared Armageddon. I talked to disfellowshipped people. It was my parent's religion not mine. I cringe when I say I am an exJW because I was never one. Just had the unfortunate circumstance of being born to JW parents. Pioneer mother and Ministerial servant big brother. Thought they were really weird not asking for proof too.
i have noticed more than a few ex jws becoming atheists but according to how the watchtower teaches them it seems reasonable to expect. interesting show today
Hi, great topic! The Bible is taken from the Sumerian tablets which speak of gods, it's men who made it one god. It's about the Annunaki - Enil and his brother Enki. Enil was made into the god of Christianity and Enki was made to be satan. Check out the history of this knowledge it is a lot at first to understand. I'm curious what will be your thoughts on it if you research it. ✌️🏼
It seems there are many gods in ancient civilizations that show this duality. In Egypt it’s the same and other African civilizations. To us it makes complete sense and we look at “God” more as a perfect balance like yin and yang. There were ancient texts before the Bible that many Christians never even care to look at.
If we were watching a movie and had to guess which villain was worse I think we unanimously would pick the less violent one and the one with millions less in body count. Somehow people can't read a book and do the same. Makes no sense.
I am now a Buddhist-ish atheist, mainly because of the problem of evil and atrocities in the Bible, but I don’t think Satan is worth celebrating either. As far as I understand it, his ethics boil down to “Do as thou wilt,” as Alistair Crowley put it: A very disturbed ideology which empowers psychopaths and psychopathic tendencies. If everything is permissible, that includes all manner of evil. I think there was a reason Jesus rejected Satan’s 3 temptations in the NT. The “will to power”, wealth, prominence and self-satisfaction above all else generally leads to devastation. Power must be balanced with a “will to love” as MLK Jr wrote.
Beautiful grass, plants, trees, hills, mountains. And destructive volcanoes. And in space, beautiful stars, planets, galaxies. And destructive black holes. God has a dual nature of order and chaos.
I still remember the red live forever book where Job and his wife holding NEW child and smiling looking Up😅I wonder why did I pushed aside such drawings😅
Great message! I’ve always told my husband I think the god of the Bible is so evil. It’s just a book….this isn’t The God that I know. He thinks I’m crazy but make it make sense…nobody can
In theology school we wrestled with these topic constantly. Do we worship God or the Bible? Is the Bible what God said, or what Israel said God said? However, I believe one can both be a believer and at the same time question the biblical text! DOPE CONVERSATION! ❤❤❤
No! Because Jehovah doesn't directly handle things and issues like he did when we lived under the MOSAIC LAW . He's GIVING ALL the chance , time and opportunity to repent and come correct with their situation before He steps in and does it for them. And we definitely don't want that. But you already know that.
This is on point because there are some tough stories in the bible even with Jeptha daughter who suffer due to her dad etc I always question how the devil lived longer then all the servants on earth and is still allowed to roam the earth staying only on the earth his punishment is bad but not has bad has humans who are imperfect.
The Bible is probably encoded. Not meant to be taken literally. These characters are yes some believe that the God of the Bible is a false god or one of the two gods that created us. It may also represent the struggle within us and us reaching enlightment to return to god or our higher self.
💞Hi Awaken Truths. I love your channel❣️. It seems to me this is very interesting & insightful. The people that claim to follow the bible never do unless there is $ involved. Most of it is full of violence & stories that keep being rewritten & changed to "suit" their "culty" behavior. I think it's intelligent & modern to have an open mind. See yall guy 🚘👑& 💋🌹doll on the next one, ✌️peace, love, MISS JANINE🌴🧸 💅
I’m a ex JW and you guys are RIGHT! There are things in the Bible that as human that might seem like unexplainable violent acts. The problem is you think because God doesn’t think like you and I that He isn’t the True God. You believe there’s no way a loving God would do the things like with Job have the Devil test him in such manners and I agree I can’t explain that. That’s something that maybe the Creator will explain in the later future. However the box that you put yourself in is you say God is all things, He’s omnipresent, etc. If that’s the case why is your omnipresent god letting all of this wickedness happen like kids dying everyday, wars, starvation? We might not like and understand things that the Biblical God does, as many of His servants didn’t but remained faithful, at least He does provide us with a solution accept or not with resurrection hope and paradise. I see that you have an Egyptian Ankh on your neck, please tell us why the Egyptian gods are not stopping the madness that pervades society and what is their solution? I believe that you guys soon will be Atheist, I could be wrong but the critique that you give the God of the Bible if you’re fair you will give your god the same thing. In other words it seems like your god is collaborating with the Devil but not explaining anything.
The ankh is simply the symbol for life itself. We do not link it to a specific God. The way in which we believe in God is literally all things and everything. Harmony. We believe trials and tribulations are brought along to test us. God is the highest level of consciousness not a made up completely good entity the way Christian’s like to portray it. The God of the Bible allowed “the devil” to get under his skin so bad that he destroyed the innocent humans multiple times. Just food for thought
@@AwakenTruths But you never answered my question brother. The god you believe in why is he letting all of this turmoil we live each and everyday happen and not do anything?
Imagine tho’ a human father behaving like God; remaining distant, not intervening, allowing untold misery and suffering, and causing his offspring to question his very existence. That would be the ultimate Dead Beat Dad !!
I'm friends with Steph and I loved her video! I have to say once I stopped going to meetings but still believed in Jehovah God I decided to reread the Bible cover to cover without the JW narrative as my guide... And that's what made me Agnostic! When I re-read the story of David and Bathsheba, and realized that the way God punished David for having Bathsheba's husband killed in battle was to allow their baby to suffer for a week and then die, so an innocent baby was tortured to hurt a man, what was God's reasoning to make Bathsheba go through that!?!?! She lost her husband, had to marry her husband's murderer and then watch her baby suffer and die!?!? And God is just and loving!?!? Yeah, ummm, I'm good, I'm not getting involved with THAT kind of LOVE... Great video you two!
Agree! Something was wrong with the so-called “All Scriptures are Beneficial” too😅If God had written SOME are beneficial I might had still be a believer😅
It seems like you're more angry at God than at David for getting another man's wife pregnant and trying to cover up the pregnancy by having the woman's husband killed in the line of battle. Jehovah could've put David to death for what he did, but he spared David but had to teach him a lesson by taking his baby away.
@@CoolBreeze250 first, I'm not angry at someone who doesn't exist. Second, if he did exist, that is just an absurd way of teaching a lesson by putting a poor wife and mother through all that unnecessarily. There are so many other ways David could have been taught 'a lesson'. Like, take away Bathsheba and his child from him and let them go live a pleasant life and him not be able to bother with them for the rest of their lives? Wouldn't that have tortured him more? To know they exist and that he couldn't have them in his life? And they, in the meantime wouldn't be harmed? And isn't this supposed God all powerful that he could make that all happen? Yeah, sincerely, lol, none of it makes ANY sort of sense. Old MEN very obviously wrote this book a LONG time ago and had no regard for women or children.
Imagine in NT too, I wonder how couldn’t a God prevent Herod’s plan KNOWING in ADVANCE under 2 ages boys will be killed if His Son is born😢And this year JW convention drama of it which showed Joseph’s dream and Herod’s and his soldiers horrific scene made me confident my question ain’t wrong to ask!
love the book of Job!!! The character Satan is far smarter than the character of God. He basically shows the lengths God will go to just to make a point not realizing halfway though he is just showing his true narcissistic qualities because he is blinded by his unquenchable thirst for worship and praise.
Good day Beautiful people We always speak about the tree of knowledge of good & bad , Gen 3: 22-24 the tree of life, God expelling Adam & Eve, from the garden of Eden, God saying, now in order Adam & Eve doesn’t reach their hands out & take from The Tree of Life & Live Forever, God placing flaming blades of swords that was turning continuously, to prevent Adam & Eve from eating allowing them to live forever
Thank you! I have not read that. But I’d like to know what lead you to that conclusion. Galatians 5:13 and Joshua 24:15 both speak on free will and neither one is showing that it is from Satan. Do you believe people shouldn’t have had free will?
@AwakenTruths genesis 3:4 The snake tells eva, "When you eat the fruit, your eyes will be open, knowing the good and the bad. Maybe im wrong, but jehova whants slaves, no rational people. Sorry for my English.
GOD could give a Damn about Your Feelings to be Honest with U U gone do what GOD says No Matter what Jesus Prays to GOD .. Moses Prays to GOD .. GOD Prays to None -
yahweh aka jehovah is one of the fallen angel sons of EL ELYON. he was one of many angels on probation cast out from heaven. he got a portion of the earth he was in charge of but he beat up by jacob and lost his place. Jacob is the new replacement angel in his place. like prison the angels get a break or free time so yahweh comes around every so many years and flex his muscles . Baal is the devil not satan.
Christianity is not in the Bible and the Bible is not about Christianity. It’s an Israelite book for Israelites only. It’s a book of Laws statues and commandments. Also you have no free will Jeremiah 10:23
As a former JW myself who has been born again by the true God and calling of Jesus, I have to say that I once enjoyed you all’s videos and found a community in my trauma/pain on removing myself from the cult. However, I do pray for you all to continue to find the clarity needed to remove the spirit of confusion that the devil still has on your minds. I went from JW, to agnostic/new age, and now see the lord as my savior and Jesus with final authority (separating my beliefs from JW for clarity). Following the new age culture left me depressed, hopeless, and worse off than before. You are only opening more portals for you to be used by the devil. He is a master manipulator. I encourage you all to try the FREEDOM in the word of God. Please do not forget that the devil makes himself an angel of light. God bless you all!
In your mind you are absolutely correct in what you just said…. But other people have their own thoughts and opinions… and we are just as correct in our thoughts and opinions, go figure
.y thing us if you are all powerful. Why create something that will go against you? How do you present death to your creation that doesn't even know anything about death.
It is important to study independently and seek out knowledgeable Bible teachers who delve deeper into the historical context of the verses rather than proof texting. IMO free will/choices is apart of life and our society. Individuals have the freedom to commit theft, however, if they are caught to jail they go. Our choices are what determine the life we create for ourselves. I do think God rewards us for making good choices, but we still endure suffering like everyone else because we live in a broken world. Our ultimate reward is heaven. God didn't guarantee a flawless life, but assured us of His constant presence, He is there good or bad. I like this channel and acknowledge that the majority of JWs have no interest in religion after they leave the org. I find it deeply saddening. Not all churches and bible teachers are equal. When I saw the clip from stefwokup, I thought she is repeating information from someone else's research, as it is a book authored by a man and contains his own thoughts and explanations. From the clip, I noticed the author is proof texting scriptures. People can make the Bible say exactly what they want when it’s misinterpreted. I also think people confuse good with just. God is good but He is more of a just God. We will not understand with these human minds the complexities of why God did what He did and I am ok with that because I choose to have faith and trust in Him. I believe He knows better than me.Those nations and generations were dammed because they continued to go against God and followed their man made doctrines. God never intended us to experience evil that’s why Adam and Eve did not know about it. I think God was always hoping even though He knew we would choose wrong that Eve would not have eaten that fruit. It’s like a parent, you always hope your child will make wise choices even though you know them and know they will not and even when they don’t you are still there to love them through it all.
Lol i was asking my parents and the elders all these questions at like 8 years old and nobody ever had a good answer. Y'all shoild cover the book of Philemon. He was a slave who escaped and the whole short book is about forcing him to go back to his master after he escaped. God took away Job's family in a bet with Satan, why? Why did god let the israelites violate then chop up a woman and distribute her severed parts all over the kingdoms? Why did god allow/tell the israelites to take young women and virgins from the lands they conquered and kill the male babies? Why did Jesus say slaves should obey their earthly masters?
God offers us a relationship and does not require religion. This is why Jesus came to the Earth to redeem us. We are loved by God automatically if we seek a relationship with Him and express Faith. Revelation 6-19 refers to the Tribulation period (70th week of Daniel, Jacob's Trouble, Day of the Lord, etc.), which has not happened yet, and therefore 0 of the 144,000 have been sealed to date. Teaching otherwise is called Preterism and requires serious mental gymnastics. The simple truth is that just as Jesus fulfilled the spring festivals during the first century (Passover/Unleavened Bread/First Fruits/Pentecost), he will fulfill the fall festivals at the second coming. The major fall festivals are Yom Teruah (Rosh Hoshana / Feast of Trumpets - a harvest festival) occurring over two days (Tishrei 1&2) and Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement, picturing Messiah returning to the Mount of Olives) on Tishrei 10 . The seven days in between reference Daniel's final prophetic week which Jesus describes in Matthew 24 - the worst period of human history - directly before Messiah returns to Earth as conquering King (Messiah ben David). Sukkot (Festival of Booths) references the Millennium. The purpose of the Tribulation is to bring decedents of Abraham to saving faith in Jesus although they are not part of the Bride of Christ and to judge a Christ rejecting world. This is pictured in the Old Testament as Joseph with his gentile bride living in a palace while his brothers were outside enduring famine for...seven years. The first resurrection is 'the harpazo' spoken of in 1 Thes 4:17 (AKA: the 'Rapture' of the Church) and the second occurs, according to Revelation, after the millennium. Everything you need to know for obtaining salvation, and understanding the situation of natural Jews, is described in Romans chapters 9-11. God wants a relationship with his creation, not religion. Romans 10: 9, 10: "if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved." (KJV) Jesus tells us in Revelation 3:10-12 that we can be spared the wrath to come upon the whole Earth: Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.
I guess we’ll have to mess around and find out! I’d rather be on the Lord’s side! He has all power! The devil can only do what he is allowed to do! So, I’ll tell the devil Not today satan, and by the way he is a liar!!
@@leogolive I am not about to act like I know. I was just as startled to read some passages as anyone else! So, much we don’t know, such as why do we have to die, or why bad things happen to good people, or why some bad people live longer or win the lottery I am not a theologian. When we pray we need to ask the Holy Spirit to guide us. So many unbelievers today, and we need a savior now more than ever. But, I do know that he loves us, he’s allowed us to get up this morning. But, the minute something goes wrong who will we call on. Then you’ll feel you have no favor, because one you are an unbeliever. Many times in the Bible bad people were used by God. Sounds like some are judging him.
Don’t misunderstand. None of it is true. Satan, Jehovah and Jesus are not real. But if we look at the characters in the book, you see that God is actually the evil one
People who don't know God or don't have a proper understanding of the Bible may view God as a genocidal maniac. As the Creator of the universe, Jehovah God has the right to set the standards between right and wrong. The Bible says "the wages sin pays is death." (Romans 6:23) In Noah's day, the earth had become filled with violence, so God had to wipe out most of mankind with the Flood. (Genesis 6:13) If you were living back in Noah's day and were affected by violence and wicked people, you'd want God to act on your behalf. As far as Sodom and Gomorrah were concerned, the men were committing homosexual acts, so God had to wipe them out too. Having free will does not mean being free from the negative consequences of our poor choices. (Galatians 6:7, 8) For instance, we have the free will to drink alcohol in excess and have illicit sex with as many people as we can, but we'll reap the negative consequences of health problems and contracting STDs. Adam and Eve already knew the difference between good and bad because God already told them. God told Adam that he'd die if he ate from the tree of knowledge. (Genesis 2:16, 17) He and Eve didn't know good and bad like God knew good and bad, but they knew what would happen if they ate from the tree in the middle of the garden. Finally, God allowed Satan to test Job because Satan suggested that people served God for selfish reasons. (Job 2:4) This is why Jehovah's servants maintain their integrity to him and respond to Satan's taunts.--Proverbs 27:11.
Noah never preached and warned the people that God supposedly destroyed. Lot committed incest with both his daughters after he offered them to “evil sodomites” David committed murder to cover his sin. And 60,000 babies are born everyday. And according to the witnesses Jehovah is gonna wipe them out.
Think about it who invented the first weapon of mass destruction'not Adam or eve they had no knowledge of how to invent such a weapon but the only two humans on earth saw a evil killing weapon 😅😅yes the sword that was moving like a food processor back an forth guarding the gate that they both exit out of Eden yes the God of love had made the first killing weapon so he knows whot is good,an bad😊all they had to do in time copy the flaming sword,and also they may of not seen fire before until God invented the flaming sword sounds weird 😅😅😊
Please don't attack me for saying this, but you guys sound like Jehovah Witnesses. I know this is your platform, and you can express your views and beliefs however you like. But please don't let your awaking with the Jehovah Witnesses cloudy your whole perception of the Bible. A lot of the Bible does not make sense. But we were never meant to take every word as fact. The core of the Bible is LOVE. That's all. Here is a book that, when studied properly, is only telling you to love your neighbor as you love yourself. What's so wrong with that. Even if it's not true, what harm is there in giving hope to people. Life is hard enough. Let people hope for something better. What is the point of doubting a God that may or may not exist? What's the harm in believing there is something better? That there is a purpose to this thing we call life. When the Witnesses tried to recruit me, they came with all theses conspiracy theories and things in the bible that did not make sense. Just because WE don't understand something, it doesn't mean it's not true. Continue to study before casting doubt on something that doesn't make sense to you. I truly enjoy you guys! I watch everytime you guys post. But this gave me Jehovah witness vibes 😟
We are not stopping anybody from believing or hoping in whatever it is they want to hope and believe. But we have curious minds and if we believe something warrants further investigation we are going to do that. We are two humans speaking on OUR experience and OUR journey. If someone’s belief system can be threatened by questions then maybe they should ask themselves why. And you’re correct it’s our platform where we enjoy talking about the uncomfortable topics. It’s all about connection that each individual has to their source whether you derive that from the bible, nature, Quran, tanakh, rig Veda, stars idrc it makes little to no difference to me. But be secure in whatever you believe. And think did this vibe come from a place of emotional trigger or rational thought. Thank you for your support and commentary✨
I’ve thought about this since I was a little kid. We were supposed to view God as a loving father but to me he just seemed violent and tyrannical, I used to be so scared.
Kids are free thinkers too. Until we get indoctrinated and molded into society’s way of thinking
Isaiah 8:10.
@@AwakenTruthsIsaiah 8:10.
There is no argument there. I've said the same forever. Over 100 God supported wars in bible. In ancient times, God has killed 2.5 million. Satan, 10. Who is the violent, blood thirsty guy here. It ain't Satan. Frankly, I feel sorry for Satan. He ain't as bad as they make him out to be. In fact, he is pretty decent. 😂😂
@vusimngomezulu2500 How is Hon. Julius Malema these days? He is my favourite politician of all time. He be fearless. Do you like him also?
🤯 people think you crazy when you start questioning the creator like that , but all the questions are legit .
ya'll killing it! My family has been trapped in this cult since the 1950s so I really appreciate how difficult it is to do what you're doing.. It shows that you have family still inside, because you both approach this with respect and consideration while being brutally truthful.
Absolutely. We are allowed to express our observations and not completely undermine those still within it
My favorite part of the Bible is where it says God is slow to anger, merciful, and forgiving...yet God made two grizzly bears fatally maul 42 kids, tearing them to pieces, because they called an old man bald headed....42 kids eaten by two bears, for name calling.
On Point you two! Who wouldn't 'Oppose' this? The indiscriminate death toll, Child sacrifices (Abraham and Issacs), Incest, Gang Grape. And the rabbit hole goes down even further with more research.
I’ve ALWAYS thought something was off ever since I heard about the story of Job. Like all of his family was taken away, what ‘loving’ God would do all that just to teach a lesson?!?
But did you read the end of the story everything he lost was restored to him, and it wasn’t even about Job. It was a battle between God and Satan Satan was trying to trick God into cursing Job.
Thank you for the shout out. Loved this video. You make so many good points. Lots of things to contemplate.
It's quite possible that Satan is pretending to be GOD. Maybe the Bible has been twisted, no?After all he is the ruler of this world and not GOD according to the Bible. 😱😱😱
It doesn't add up.
I had the EXACT same thought.
The logic holds: wouldn't Satan be the "God" of the world that he rules?
I have a friend whose ex husband told their kids when he dropped them back off at home after a meeting (thankfully he is no longer to take them to the meetings or assemblies anymore), but the last time, he actually told his kids before they get out his car to go in the house.. “tell your mom the black horse is coming for her..”😨😳 why JWs think it’s ok to lowkey use Bible verses to threaten people? The 6 sisters who are my bullies have done that to me too. And also a couple of elders. But j
JWs don’t think of themselves as making threats to anyone… which makes it worse..
They lack awareness in their actions and character. Those are terrible things to say
Thanks for discussing many of the things I questioned when I was a JW. I agree that it is not free will when to chose it has such severe consequences.
You two are truly growing, I love how much you are innerstanding it.. love to hear from you…
I was hurt about this untruth organization to..🤦🏾♀️ so sad, I disassociated myself for about 6 months , before i spoke my truths I found in the Bible, they did not like that at all.
Called for a meeting, I felt like a criminal. Who holds judicial meetings??
Judges! you are not my judge, Jah knew before I ever even admitted to you, husband and I moved on 2 yrs later, “ no you’re a liar Jehovah hates liars??
I told you what happened, you didn’t tell me what happened.. smh 🤦🏾♀️
thank you for showing me, the 6 brothers in judicial office, that night in JW court,, exactly why I had disassociated myself over 6 months ago….
Y’all keep telling these truths, so many are still stuck, in that fake loyalty..
Yes so true. Thank you for sharing. We love having you here
One of the most disturbing things I came across was that God killed Ezekiel's wife just to make a point. Ezekiel 24:15 16
Exactly it’s sick
I've often thought that God is mean because of many things the Bible says he has done. Also because he allows such evil to continue to this very day
Great video. I was born into the JWs. I knew by age 12 that I was an atheist. I literally was an atheist being raised a JW. I always wondered why they picked the most horrible character in the Bible to idolize. I was growing up in a violent home so I automatically couldn't relate to the Jehovah character. I even asked an elder if god was dead because he wasnt doing anything anymore. Lol They just thought I was being rebellious and so didn't provide me any answes. Thing with JWs is they do not know how to deal with people who have no god beliefs. They assume since I was indoctrinated since birth and as a 12 year old I was programmed already. JWs failed to prove to me the Jehovah character existed so I never developed beliefs in gods so then obviously didn't accept their doctrines. I was waiting to age out. I feel lucky that I never feared Armageddon. I talked to disfellowshipped people. It was my parent's religion not mine. I cringe when I say I am an exJW because I was never one. Just had the unfortunate circumstance of being born to JW parents. Pioneer mother and Ministerial servant big brother. Thought they were really weird not asking for proof too.
Thanks for sharing, it’s amazing even a child actually can think critically😊
One more thing isn't it funny JW can not gamble but Jehovah is making a bet with Satan doing it with Job?
@@journeyofitall very good 👍
These are the question we need answers to!
i have noticed more than a few ex jws becoming atheists but according to how the watchtower teaches them it seems reasonable to expect. interesting show today
Wow, I was just thinking about this and this video pops up.
It’s a very interesting topic. We are looking to further dissect it
Hi, great topic! The Bible is taken from the Sumerian tablets which speak of gods, it's men who made it one god. It's about the Annunaki - Enil and his brother Enki. Enil was made into the god of Christianity and Enki was made to be satan. Check out the history of this knowledge it is a lot at first to understand. I'm curious what will be your thoughts on it if you research it. ✌️🏼
all the angels were cast out on a probation duty. yahweh is the son of EL ELYON.
It seems there are many gods in ancient civilizations that show this duality. In Egypt it’s the same and other African civilizations. To us it makes complete sense and we look at “God” more as a perfect balance like yin and yang. There were ancient texts before the Bible that many Christians never even care to look at.
If we were watching a movie and had to guess which villain was worse I think we unanimously would pick the less violent one and the one with millions less in body count. Somehow people can't read a book and do the same. Makes no sense.
I am now a Buddhist-ish atheist, mainly because of the problem of evil and atrocities in the Bible, but I don’t think Satan is worth celebrating either. As far as I understand it, his ethics boil down to “Do as thou wilt,” as Alistair Crowley put it: A very disturbed ideology which empowers psychopaths and psychopathic tendencies. If everything is permissible, that includes all manner of evil.
I think there was a reason Jesus rejected Satan’s 3 temptations in the NT. The “will to power”, wealth, prominence and self-satisfaction above all else generally leads to devastation. Power must be balanced with a “will to love” as MLK Jr wrote.
We’re loving this perspective of it. I’ve met many Buddhist atheist Ms and they are all very rational. It’s always a pleasure conversing with them
Why would there be prostitutes during Solomon's reign when that's supposed to prefigure the Thousand Year reign
Good point
@@AwakenTruthsBecause men have to have sex…even the undesirable ones
Beautiful grass, plants, trees, hills, mountains. And destructive volcanoes. And in space, beautiful stars, planets, galaxies. And destructive black holes. God has a dual nature of order and chaos.
exactly
One ex JDub expressed it best as “the dark side of creation” - Anonimouse
Well said.
I like Steph Woke Up.. she’s the real deal..😊
She’s dope isn’t she!
19:02 I asked my mom this once at the meeting and she pinched me lol. I never got the answer.
😂😂😂
JW moms are notorious for pinching the shit outta their kids!🤣
Sounds about right 🤣
Thank you for exploring these topics from such an exceptional place of respect.
Thank you for noticing 😊
The way Satan is genuinely the misunderstood antihero of the bible 😶🌫️
It really seems that way. Seeing how we never heard his side of the story in this book
all hail Satan!
Was it loving on Gods part to kill Jobs family? I’m wondering how Job really felt about losing his family….
We wonder the same
I still remember the red live forever book where Job and his wife holding NEW child and smiling looking Up😅I wonder why did I pushed aside such drawings😅
Great message! I’ve always told my husband I think the god of the Bible is so evil. It’s just a book….this isn’t The God that I know. He thinks I’m crazy but make it make sense…nobody can
In theology school we wrestled with these topic constantly. Do we worship God or the Bible? Is the Bible what God said, or what Israel said God said? However, I believe one can both be a believer and at the same time question the biblical text! DOPE CONVERSATION! ❤❤❤
Love this perspective thank you
When I read Drunk with B, I realized while indoctrinated I actually didn’t know those horrific scriptures😅why did I ever thought it’s a Holy book😅
Thanks It Was Make's One Think
All facts
No! Because Jehovah doesn't directly handle things and issues like he did when we lived under the MOSAIC LAW . He's GIVING ALL the chance , time and opportunity to repent and come correct with their situation before He steps in and does it for them. And we definitely don't want that. But you already know that.
This is on point because there are some tough stories in the bible even with Jeptha daughter who suffer due to her dad etc I always question how the devil lived longer then all the servants on earth and is still allowed to roam the earth staying only on the earth his punishment is bad but not has bad has humans who are imperfect.
The Bible is probably encoded. Not meant to be taken literally. These characters are yes some believe that the God of the Bible is a false god or one of the two gods that created us. It may also represent the struggle within us and us reaching enlightment to return to god or our higher self.
Stef is my buddy (same area). Her channel is growing too.
Oh nice!! And yes we enjoy her content
💞Hi Awaken Truths. I love your channel❣️. It seems to me this is very interesting & insightful. The people that claim to follow the bible never do unless there is $ involved. Most of it is full of violence & stories that keep being rewritten & changed to "suit" their "culty" behavior. I think it's intelligent & modern to have an open mind. See yall guy 🚘👑& 💋🌹doll on the next one, ✌️peace, love, MISS JANINE🌴🧸 💅
So true! It’s a book of horror stories that are glorified and overlooked
Back at it again with another banger🎉!
I’m a ex JW and you guys are RIGHT! There are things in the Bible that as human that might seem like unexplainable violent acts. The problem is you think because God doesn’t think like you and I that He isn’t the True God. You believe there’s no way a loving God would do the things like with Job have the Devil test him in such manners and I agree I can’t explain that. That’s something that maybe the Creator will explain in the later future. However the box that you put yourself in is you say God is all things, He’s omnipresent, etc. If that’s the case why is your omnipresent god letting all of this wickedness happen like kids dying everyday, wars, starvation? We might not like and understand things that the Biblical God does, as many of His servants didn’t but remained faithful, at least He does provide us with a solution accept or not with resurrection hope and paradise. I see that you have an Egyptian Ankh on your neck, please tell us why the Egyptian gods are not stopping the madness that pervades society and what is their solution? I believe that you guys soon will be Atheist, I could be wrong but the critique that you give the God of the Bible if you’re fair you will give your god the same thing. In other words it seems like your god is collaborating with the Devil but not explaining anything.
The ankh is simply the symbol for life itself. We do not link it to a specific God. The way in which we believe in God is literally all things and everything. Harmony. We believe trials and tribulations are brought along to test us. God is the highest level of consciousness not a made up completely good entity the way Christian’s like to portray it. The God of the Bible allowed “the devil” to get under his skin so bad that he destroyed the innocent humans multiple times. Just food for thought
@@AwakenTruths But you never answered my question brother. The god you believe in why is he letting all of this turmoil we live each and everyday happen and not do anything?
Imagine tho’ a human father behaving like God; remaining distant, not intervening, allowing untold misery and suffering, and causing his offspring to question his very existence. That would be the ultimate Dead Beat Dad !!
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1 Are you a Atheist?
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1 Also if he’s a “deadbeat dad” when was the last time that you missed a meal, lacked air or sunshine?
I love this channel, but I'll catch you next time.
We understand. Not every video will appeal to everyone. We will continue to make disclaimers for ones like these 😊
I watched stephs and now this!
Love so much!
I'm friends with Steph and I loved her video! I have to say once I stopped going to meetings but still believed in Jehovah God I decided to reread the Bible cover to cover without the JW narrative as my guide... And that's what made me Agnostic! When I re-read the story of David and Bathsheba, and realized that the way God punished David for having Bathsheba's husband killed in battle was to allow their baby to suffer for a week and then die, so an innocent baby was tortured to hurt a man, what was God's reasoning to make Bathsheba go through that!?!?! She lost her husband, had to marry her husband's murderer and then watch her baby suffer and die!?!? And God is just and loving!?!? Yeah, ummm, I'm good, I'm not getting involved with THAT kind of LOVE... Great video you two!
Agree! Something was wrong with the so-called “All Scriptures are Beneficial” too😅If God had written SOME are beneficial I might had still be a believer😅
It seems like you're more angry at God than at David for getting another man's wife pregnant and trying to cover up the pregnancy by having the woman's husband killed in the line of battle. Jehovah could've put David to death for what he did, but he spared David but had to teach him a lesson by taking his baby away.
@@CoolBreeze250How can A God killing babies be okay😮for a lesson 😮
@@CoolBreeze250 first, I'm not angry at someone who doesn't exist. Second, if he did exist, that is just an absurd way of teaching a lesson by putting a poor wife and mother through all that unnecessarily. There are so many other ways David could have been taught 'a lesson'. Like, take away Bathsheba and his child from him and let them go live a pleasant life and him not be able to bother with them for the rest of their lives? Wouldn't that have tortured him more? To know they exist and that he couldn't have them in his life? And they, in the meantime wouldn't be harmed? And isn't this supposed God all powerful that he could make that all happen? Yeah, sincerely, lol, none of it makes ANY sort of sense. Old MEN very obviously wrote this book a LONG time ago and had no regard for women or children.
@@lh1673 😉
Imagine in NT too, I wonder how couldn’t a God prevent Herod’s plan KNOWING in ADVANCE under 2 ages boys will be killed if His Son is born😢And this year JW convention drama of it which showed Joseph’s dream and Herod’s and his soldiers horrific scene made me confident my question ain’t wrong to ask!
@AwakenTruths You all should read the book of Enoch, and it would answer a lot of your questions.
Very interested! Where did you find it?
So, True the Bible has alot of wrong in it.
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This & That Too aka GOD
love the book of Job!!! The character Satan is far smarter than the character of God. He basically shows the lengths God will go to just to make a point not realizing halfway though he is just showing his true narcissistic qualities because he is blinded by his unquenchable thirst for worship and praise.
On a side note, I see they removed the January 2015 broadcast from the website. Anyone have any ideas why???
Good day Beautiful people
We always speak about the tree of knowledge of good & bad
, Gen 3: 22-24 the tree of life, God expelling Adam & Eve, from the garden of Eden, God saying, now in order Adam & Eve doesn’t reach their hands out & take from The Tree of Life & Live Forever, God placing flaming blades of swords that was turning continuously, to prevent Adam & Eve from eating allowing them to live forever
oohh tea. comments may be interesting on this one
About to ruffle some feathers 😬
I’m afraid to post it publicly on my FB😳
The number of people God, I’m sorry “Jehovah” unalived in the Bible is the whole current population of my city, Chicago..🤨😨
Wild!
Hi guys. Love your videos.
The snake gave us the free will no jehova. It's important to read the bible to understand what really said.
Thank you! I have not read that. But I’d like to know what lead you to that conclusion. Galatians 5:13 and Joshua 24:15 both speak on free will and neither one is showing that it is from Satan. Do you believe people shouldn’t have had free will?
@AwakenTruths genesis 3:4 The snake tells eva, "When you eat the fruit, your eyes will be open, knowing the good and the bad. Maybe im wrong, but jehova whants slaves, no rational people.
Sorry for my English.
The devil made me do it the first time the second time I did it on my own
GOD could give a Damn about Your Feelings to be Honest with U U gone do what GOD says No Matter what
Jesus Prays to GOD .. Moses Prays to GOD .. GOD Prays to None -
No JW depicts him as being all good..not the Bible
Isaiah 45:7..Most Doctrines teaches against the Bible
True story!
I think reading bible show how cruel the world is
yahweh aka jehovah is one of the fallen angel sons of EL ELYON. he was one of many angels on probation cast out from heaven. he got a portion of the earth he was in charge of but he beat up by jacob and lost his place. Jacob is the new replacement angel in his place. like prison the angels get a break or free time so yahweh comes around every so many years and flex his muscles . Baal is the devil not satan.
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What if the Devil is our Father? 🤔 If we were made in Gods image? We hate and envy others. 🫣
Woah that’s a good thought! Also i hope you were able to check the second live where they read your speech 😊 thank you so much for sharing
@@AwakenTruths yes I did! Thanks for your participation and your speeches as well 😁
Christianity is not in the Bible and the Bible is not about Christianity. It’s an Israelite book for Israelites only. It’s a book of Laws statues and commandments. Also you have no free will Jeremiah 10:23
As a former JW myself who has been born again by the true God and calling of Jesus, I have to say that I once enjoyed you all’s videos and found a community in my trauma/pain on removing myself from the cult. However, I do pray for you all to continue to find the clarity needed to remove the spirit of confusion that the devil still has on your minds. I went from JW, to agnostic/new age, and now see the lord as my savior and Jesus with final authority (separating my beliefs from JW for clarity). Following the new age culture left me depressed, hopeless, and worse off than before. You are only opening more portals for you to be used by the devil. He is a master manipulator. I encourage you all to try the FREEDOM in the word of God. Please do not forget that the devil makes himself an angel of light. God bless you all!
In your mind you are absolutely correct in what you just said…. But other people have their own thoughts and opinions… and we are just as correct in our thoughts and opinions, go figure
.y thing us if you are all powerful. Why create something that will go against you? How do you present death to your creation that doesn't even know anything about death.
It is important to study independently and seek out knowledgeable Bible teachers who delve deeper into the historical context of the verses rather than proof texting. IMO free will/choices is apart of life and our society. Individuals have the freedom to commit theft, however, if they are caught to jail they go. Our choices are what determine the life we create for ourselves. I do think God rewards us for making good choices, but we still endure suffering like everyone else because we live in a broken world. Our ultimate reward is heaven. God didn't guarantee a flawless life, but assured us of His constant presence, He is there good or bad. I like this channel and acknowledge that the majority of JWs have no interest in religion after they leave the org. I find it deeply saddening. Not all churches and bible teachers are equal.
When I saw the clip from stefwokup, I thought she is repeating information from someone else's research, as it is a book authored by a man and contains his own thoughts and explanations. From the clip, I noticed the author is proof texting scriptures. People can make the Bible say exactly what they want when it’s misinterpreted. I also think people confuse good with just. God is good but He is more of a just God. We will not understand with these human minds the complexities of why God did what He did and I am ok with that because I choose to have faith and trust in Him. I believe He knows better than me.Those nations and generations were dammed because they continued to go against God and followed their man made doctrines. God never intended us to experience evil that’s why Adam and Eve did not know about it. I think God was always hoping even though He knew we would choose wrong that Eve would not have eaten that fruit. It’s like a parent, you always hope your child will make wise choices even though you know them and know they will not and even when they don’t you are still there to love them through it all.
Well said 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾
Lol i was asking my parents and the elders all these questions at like 8 years old and nobody ever had a good answer. Y'all shoild cover the book of Philemon. He was a slave who escaped and the whole short book is about forcing him to go back to his master after he escaped. God took away Job's family in a bet with Satan, why? Why did god let the israelites violate then chop up a woman and distribute her severed parts all over the kingdoms? Why did god allow/tell the israelites to take young women and virgins from the lands they conquered and kill the male babies? Why did Jesus say slaves should obey their earthly masters?
We will check that out! Thanks for the suggestion
God offers us a relationship and does not require religion. This is why Jesus came to the Earth to redeem us. We are loved by God automatically if we seek a relationship with Him and express Faith.
Revelation 6-19 refers to the Tribulation period (70th week of Daniel, Jacob's Trouble, Day of the Lord, etc.), which has not happened yet, and therefore 0 of the 144,000 have been sealed to date. Teaching otherwise is called Preterism and requires serious mental gymnastics. The simple truth is that just as Jesus fulfilled the spring festivals during the first century (Passover/Unleavened Bread/First Fruits/Pentecost), he will fulfill the fall festivals at the second coming.
The major fall festivals are Yom Teruah (Rosh Hoshana / Feast of Trumpets - a harvest festival) occurring over two days (Tishrei 1&2) and Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement, picturing Messiah returning to the Mount of Olives) on Tishrei 10 . The seven days in between reference Daniel's final prophetic week which Jesus describes in Matthew 24 - the worst period of human history - directly before Messiah returns to Earth as conquering King (Messiah ben David). Sukkot (Festival of Booths) references the Millennium.
The purpose of the Tribulation is to bring decedents of Abraham to saving faith in Jesus although they are not part of the Bride of Christ and to judge a Christ rejecting world. This is pictured in the Old Testament as Joseph with his gentile bride living in a palace while his brothers were outside enduring famine for...seven years. The first resurrection is 'the harpazo' spoken of in 1 Thes 4:17 (AKA: the 'Rapture' of the Church) and the second occurs, according to Revelation, after the millennium. Everything you need to know for obtaining salvation, and understanding the situation of natural Jews, is described in Romans chapters 9-11. God wants a relationship with his creation, not religion.
Romans 10: 9, 10: "if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved." (KJV)
Jesus tells us in Revelation 3:10-12 that we can be spared the wrath to come upon the whole Earth:
Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.
I guess we’ll have to mess around and find out! I’d rather be on the Lord’s side! He has all power! The devil can only do what he is allowed to do! So, I’ll tell the devil Not today satan, and by the way he is a liar!!
Why does the Lord allow Satan to do those things then?
@@leogolive I am not about to act like I know. I was just as startled to read some passages as anyone else! So, much we don’t know, such as why do we have to die, or why bad things happen to good people, or why some bad people live longer or win the lottery I am not a theologian. When we pray we need to ask the Holy Spirit to guide us. So many unbelievers today, and we need a savior now more than ever. But, I do know that he loves us, he’s allowed us to get up this morning. But, the minute something goes wrong who will we call on. Then you’ll feel you have no favor, because one you are an unbeliever. Many times in the Bible bad people were used by God. Sounds like some are judging him.
@@dorisdixon7929I don’t hardly know what to believe anymore…btw I’m a Dixon too!
Don’t misunderstand. None of it is true. Satan, Jehovah and Jesus are not real. But if we look at the characters in the book, you see that God is actually the evil one
Got through this video and i still believe that YHWH is the truth! You should try reading 2 Peter 3:16 though since you know so much about scripture
Read it… still don’t believe it 🤣🤣🤣
@@AwakenTruths just because you refuse the truth doesn’t mean it stops being true😱
People who don't know God or don't have a proper understanding of the Bible may view God as a genocidal maniac. As the Creator of the universe, Jehovah God has the right to set the standards between right and wrong. The Bible says "the wages sin pays is death." (Romans 6:23) In Noah's day, the earth had become filled with violence, so God had to wipe out most of mankind with the Flood. (Genesis 6:13) If you were living back in Noah's day and were affected by violence and wicked people, you'd want God to act on your behalf. As far as Sodom and Gomorrah were concerned, the men were committing homosexual acts, so God had to wipe them out too.
Having free will does not mean being free from the negative consequences of our poor choices. (Galatians 6:7, 8) For instance, we have the free will to drink alcohol in excess and have illicit sex with as many people as we can, but we'll reap the negative consequences of health problems and contracting STDs. Adam and Eve already knew the difference between good and bad because God already told them. God told Adam that he'd die if he ate from the tree of knowledge. (Genesis 2:16, 17) He and Eve didn't know good and bad like God knew good and bad, but they knew what would happen if they ate from the tree in the middle of the garden. Finally, God allowed Satan to test Job because Satan suggested that people served God for selfish reasons. (Job 2:4) This is why Jehovah's servants maintain their integrity to him and respond to Satan's taunts.--Proverbs 27:11.
Noah never preached and warned the people that God supposedly destroyed. Lot committed incest with both his daughters after he offered them to “evil sodomites” David committed murder to cover his sin. And 60,000 babies are born everyday. And according to the witnesses Jehovah is gonna wipe them out.
Think about it who invented the first weapon of mass destruction'not Adam or eve they had no knowledge of how to invent such a weapon but
the only two humans on earth saw a evil killing weapon 😅😅yes the sword that was moving like a food processor back an forth guarding the gate that they both exit out of Eden yes the God of love had made the first killing weapon so he knows whot is good,an bad😊all they had to do in time copy the flaming sword,and also they may of not seen fire before until God invented the flaming sword sounds weird 😅😅😊
Please don't attack me for saying this, but you guys sound like Jehovah Witnesses. I know this is your platform, and you can express your views and beliefs however you like. But please don't let your awaking with the Jehovah Witnesses cloudy your whole perception of the Bible. A lot of the Bible does not make sense. But we were never meant to take every word as fact. The core of the Bible is LOVE. That's all. Here is a book that, when studied properly, is only telling you to love your neighbor as you love yourself. What's so wrong with that. Even if it's not true, what harm is there in giving hope to people. Life is hard enough. Let people hope for something better. What is the point of doubting a God that may or may not exist? What's the harm in believing there is something better? That there is a purpose to this thing we call life.
When the Witnesses tried to recruit me, they came with all theses conspiracy theories and things in the bible that did not make sense. Just because WE don't understand something, it doesn't mean it's not true. Continue to study before casting doubt on something that doesn't make sense to you. I truly enjoy you guys! I watch everytime you guys post. But this gave me Jehovah witness vibes 😟
We are not stopping anybody from believing or hoping in whatever it is they want to hope and believe. But we have curious minds and if we believe something warrants further investigation we are going to do that. We are two humans speaking on OUR experience and OUR journey. If someone’s belief system can be threatened by questions then maybe they should ask themselves why. And you’re correct it’s our platform where we enjoy talking about the uncomfortable topics. It’s all about connection that each individual has to their source whether you derive that from the bible, nature, Quran, tanakh, rig Veda, stars idrc it makes little to no difference to me. But be secure in whatever you believe. And think did this vibe come from a place of emotional trigger or rational thought. Thank you for your support and commentary✨