I agree. I thought this film was stupid but some people like it. I noticed Rich Eisen brings it up and forgot he is in the movie. Anyone in the NFL in this film says nice things about it. LOL As for the draft trading this is the NFL and during the draft all these NFL Teams act like Teenager's playing in a local Fantasy Football League making wild trades. NFL Teams covet First Rd Draft Picks. Trading your 6th pick for 3 2's is dumb and trading 3 first rd picks for the 6th pick is dumber. Both the Jags and Seattle GM would be fired. Look at all the heat the Falcon's front office is taking for signing Kirk Cousins to an over priced FA contract and taking Penix at #8 right now. These trades in the film were manipulated so as to create drama and in the end make Costner's character look brilliant. I doubt the XFL would make these kind of trades. I compare the dumb College Basketball film Blue Chips as comparison. I live in Indiana where Blue Chips was filmed. Nick Nolte basically is trying to play Bobby Knight. What's amusing is when Blue Chips came out in 1994 the local media was all about promoting the film. After it came out no one was willing to admit it was stupid.
@tBagley43 Jacksonville had already traded the #6 pick so that point is irrelevant. Seattle didn't call because Jax didn't need a QB so they thought they would just get Callahan at #7 without needing to trade. I hate to defend this movie because it is kind of corny. But there is a reason he traded up to #1, why we was able to get #6 from Jax, and why Seattle took the trade to #6 to get their franchise QB.
Here's three reasons I never bought the $100 in playbook scenario: 1) They act like these college players don't talk to each other. How many years would they try this trick before it's common knowledge? One group text ruins the whole thing. 2) I assume they don't really put the $100 on the last page. If it's an actual playbook, it's a binder with hundreds of plays. Even if a player looks at the binder for two minutes, they're going to look at the first few pages and then flip to the end of the book. The $100 should be tucked in between the halfway point and 3/4. 3) If you're a top 10 prospect, and you're sent 5 to 10 playbooks by different teams you're not going to read 10 playbooks cover to cover. Why? That's what training camp with your teammates/coaches is for. Yes, I've put more thought into this playbook than the writers did in all the trade scenarios at the end of the movie.
You want a general understanding of scheme and how to break down defenses. A playbook is just white noise and learning every play... is kinda dumb for a team you likely won't play for.
You guys don’t watch sports often? You didn’t play sports growing up? In general, it seems like everyone in this thread doesn’t understand sports, business or assessing and choosing the correct candidate for an enterprises needs?
Is it a dumb movie? Yes. Do I still really enjoy it and watch it every year on draft day? Also yes. Weird how the movie starts with Seattle having the 1st pick considering they’re 1 of only 3 teams who’ve never picked 1st overall. Although the most hilarious aspect of this move is the implication that Dallas recently won a SB.
It's incredibly amusing as a seahawks fan to see them have the no 1 overall pick in 2014, when in reality 2013 was the year they utterly skullfucked the Broncos in the Superbowl.
The funniest thing about this movie is how the Seahawks have the first overall pick. This is funny because the Seahawks literally won the Super Bowl the season before the movie came out.
The thing that frustrated me most about this movie is they completely gave up on realism with that last seahawks/browns trade just to get a cheap happy ending, and they assumed the audience was too stupid to realize no team would agree to those terms.
@TNTITAN fair point about Walker, that was ridiculous by the Vikings. but modern era of the draft I can't think of a single example where a team gave up all those 1sts, plus a player, just to move up from 7 to 6. If it had been from 3 to 1 then yes that has happened before, but to jump a single space after pick 5, in exchange for that compensation has literally never once happened.
Lets not forget that in REAL LIFE, the Browns traded 3 first and 2 seconds for Deshaun Watson from the Texans. Then those same Texans facing the choice between CJ Stroud and Will Anderson made the trades on draft night to get both 2023 offensive and defensive rookies of the year
1. That happened a DECADE after this dumpster fire of a film. 2. The Texans trade was at least logical for one team; you can’t say the same for ANY team in this trainwreck.
Even the Jaguars trade before that didn't make a lot of sense. Just this year the Texans got two second rounders for a pick in the 20s and we're supposed a buy that the 6th pick is worth just one more?
@@bigbearkat2010that trade was bad imo too. No team will give up 3 seconds for pick 6 although do suggest looking at the Julio Jones draft trade. Browns traded 6th overall pick for 27th overall pick, 2nd rounder that year 4ths this and next and a future 1st round pick. Same trade except for 27th being a late 1st and an extra 1st vs a 2nd. Keep in mind this was considered a lot at the time
@@MustacheDLuffy it was considered a lot at the time because it was. I personally have a hard believing any GM would willingly give up a top 10 pick without at least a 1st being in the equation.
@@bigbearkat2010I’m not saying the movie was realistic but the whole point was the Jaguars GM was a novice who the Browns believed was out of his depth so they believed they could force him to panic while he was on the clock and make a bad trade. Yeah it was far fetched and it wouldn’t happen in real life but in the movie they did the best they could to up the drama by showing the Jaguars GM panicking that drafting BC would be career destroying because he had missed something that everyone else knew. A movie about the Browns trading up to No.1 to pick the best QB then they draft him wouldn’t have made for much drama.
They also spend the whole movie acting like 2 future firsts to move from 7 to 1 is some unbelievable fleecing and not just par for the course. This movie is kind of terrible but I love it and it’s a draft day tradition for me.
I don't doubt for a second that the movie based Molina on Dan Snyder. This movie came out before Dan Snyder's more horrendous antics really came to light, but from a pure football standpoint, Molina is 100% Dan Snyder. "Make a splash", "Win now", "I'm gonna fire you if you don't do what I say." Is the movie itself greatly exaggerated? Absolutely. Do I still really enjoy it because I'm an NFL junkie? Absolutely.
To make it feel realistic, they had to end the movie before the season starts. We all know, if it goes on past that, Cleveland finishes 9-7, get knocked out of the wild card of the playoffs. Then the following season, they'd go 5-11, follow that with a 4-12 season, then Costner is fired.
This movie was so bad it was good😂 The ending took me out, the things the GM did made me feel like the writers had very limited knowledge on how an NFL front office is was ran.
It's a bad sports movie in that it isn't really a sports movie; make Tom Cruise a music agent instead and the movie works just as well. But it's a great sports movie because Rod Tidwell is a fucking iconic movie athlete.
If they just made this movie about NBA draft day, it would've been a bigger hit, and all trades would seem great because literally any random sh!t happens in the NBA.
The GM and the owner having conflicting views on how to improve the team? This is the most accurate movie to describe the browns front office before 2020
Lifelong Seahawks fan from Seattle currently living in Cleveland. If John Schneider gave up 3 first round draft picks (from the BROWNS no less...) for Justin Herbert or Daniel Jones (two QBs drafted #6 overall), I'd be FURIOUS with him. I'd be in blue and green war paint camped outside his house with a bullhorn at 3AM getting arrested for disturbing the peace.
what was even more dumb was all these paid scouts didn't notice that every time Vontae and Bo were on the field together, Bo got happy feet, but he played fine when Vontae was out. The fact that Vontae was the one to point that out is nuts lmao. The most basic commentators would've caught that.
Great video! You missed one of the biggest flaws (that nobody else has picked up on either lol). It's about Vontae Mack. And this story is wild. Indulge me a bit: So Vontae Mack is the one who classifies himself as a "lighting fast middle linebacker who can murder the gaps in the 3-4." Sonny makes a comment "got Reggie Wilson's number down at Purdue?" It seems like a simple jab, but it's more. We don't really see Vontae's tape until after the phone call where he tells Sonny to watch what happens after Vontae sacks Bo. The Browns watch the tape of all Vontae's sacks. And here's the issue. If you watch the tape, Vontae Mack is always shown as an edge rusher. Dennis Leary even says Vontae "has a wicked first step I'll give him that." Something that's typically said about Edge rushers, not off ball LB's. So, what is so damn funny about all of this you ask? Failed Cardinals GM, who held his job way too long at a whopping 10 years. The same man who drafted Andy Isabella ahead of DK Metcalf and Scary Terry, the same man who ignored his franchise QB he just drafted, and took Isaiah Simmons ahead of Tristan Wirfs or Ceedee Lamb, is on record saying Draft Day is "the most accurate movie ever made." In 2015, Steve Keim drafted Temple Edge Rusher, Hassan Reddick in the first round. His first three years, they had him playing off ball LB because he did it once in the Senior Bowl. The 2015 draft was April 30th, 2015. Draft Day was released April 7, 2014. Steve Keim got his draft strategy from a shitty Kevin Costner movie, and is now charging parents of HS football players $5000 to evaluate their kid's tape 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 What a 🤡
Theres a video of former Chargers GM Tom Telesco reviewing this movie, and he said tue birthday party thing would actually be a big deal. Though his biggest complaint, which he made like 8 times, was how empty the whiteboards were.
The Seahawks reasoning for the trade was because of salary cap issues. By making the 2nd trade, they got Callahan at a 7 million dollar cheaper contract and the GM saves face. Not saying the trade was smart. Just providing their reason in the movie which isn’t mentioned in the video
Which is even dumber honestly. How badly is this team mismanaged that they can't spare cap space for their generational draft pick that's going to make next to nothing salary wise for the next several seasons?
Nice try, Mr. Straw Man It may be, ‘just a movie’, but said movie is someone’s job to accurately portray and/or create; and that person failed.. In almost any other job, if you fail to competently perform your duties; you’d get fired. Whereas, most movie directors and writers, just get to simply cut their losses, without significant repercussions; more often than not. So, holding crappy or inaccurate movies accountable, is the least we should do.
Lmao so Seattle, a team with the first overall pick, which most likely their pick, which means they're basically dogshit, have no cap space for a first overall pick? The GM should be fired before the movie takes place
I know it's been 10 years but I ought to apologize to my dad for making him pay for us to this stupid ass film in theaters. I keep forgetting about its existence
If there’s draft day2 Bryant Drew re-injure 1st game into the season, Ray cannot shake his off the field problem, Mack is a bust and Bo overcome his mental weakness after seeing therapist and become ROY. Sunny fxxk up all the picks their get back from the Seahawks.
Sorry about your 21st. Long ago, I wrestled Div1 and my 21st birthday was mid-season. We could not drink or even eat, really. So we played poker and I lost $40 that I had to borrow. I miss those guys every day.
@@AndaiMB true, I didn’t mean hate in anyway btw lol I was just stating the fact that I always see movies that I enjoyed on UA-cam videos ranting about why they aren’t good
The most unrealistic part of the movie is that in the last scene, all the Browns fans are happy with the two picks and they start chanting “Super Bowl, Super Bowl” and it’s supposed to be this emotional moment
Main character who we are supposed to believe is a genius panics hard, gets made a fool of by his peers/competitors, and makes a mess for his team. His co-workers call him out for his stupidity and he tells them to shut up and trust him to do his job. Main character somehow totally redeems himself because his peer unexpectedly panics even harder to draft a QB they are not crazy about. Draft haul is sketchy as regards turning team into immediate contender, largely dependent on whether the QB they already have can drastically improve performance in coming season. I expect main character got fired at season's end.
Yeah Sonny as a character is really confusing. In real life the GMs that pay 3 first rounders like this are ridiculed hard and at best are labeled as the biggest black marks of their careers if they're not seen as an outright joke but this movie wants us to believe he's playing 4D chess. Then again he wouldn't be a Costner protagonist without other characters talking about how awesome he is like he's in a Steven Seagal movie.
Costner redeemed himself because his counter parts were dumber. In the end the Browns owner is happy. But in reality he went back home and thought is THIS the kind of man I want being GM of my team? Costner traded up to the first pick to draft a Linebacker/pass rusher IMAO. Only reason teams trade up in the NFL is for a QB. Yet Costner character is made out to be brilliant at the end. LOL
You can’t pull a Scott Fitterer followed by a Ryan pace and expect to not get fired. Those 2 drafted Bryce young and Mitchell Trubisky and have both since been fired. He didn’t because as you’ve mentioned his GM peers panic even harder than he panics
@@MustacheDLuffy At least with Fitterer and Pace their trade ups were on the premise they'd be getting the much needed QB of the future so they got a few months or even a couple years before people felt comfortable laughing at them. Costner got a defensive player he didn't even need to trade up for in the first place, without Seattle blinking, he'd probably be evaluated for the psych ward.
@@bigbearkat2010 he gave up significant capital like Fitterer did and then pulls a Ryan pace by not letting anybody know who he was going to draft which Ryan pace did not letting anybody know he wanted Trubisky I don’t know how you double down on stupid moves and even keep your job after the season
I remember this movie being pitched as the browns actually having a good draft, but it seems like massive incompetence by the GM and they do nothing to show us that any of this actually worked out.
I imagine the pitch is like whatever sports fantasy Costner wants to play out, it's a go. A perfect game in baseball...For Love of the Game. Play in the US Open? Tin Cup. Be an NFL GM. Draft Day. Sure why not.
Don't forget when Sonny is spinning 6 for 7, he mentions to SEA that they get the QB Messiah for $7M less. And SEA is like, huh? Like they didn't know that already, they treat it as new info, that it solves their salary cap problem. IT'S ALREADY SOLVED AT 7!!!! They actually pay more to move up to 6. I like watching this movie every once in awhile because it is "dumb" fun. But its logic is just baffling.
Kirk Cousins is practically a Boy Scout, he isn’t one to cause a scene. Also, I don’t think Falcons management directly went to him and said what Sonny had said
@@AndaiMB They've guaranteed him 100 million before he's even had training camp with them, until this latest draft, I assumed Kirk would be the last guy they'd want to deliberately piss off.
The first 2 minutes & 20 seconds of the video is actually incredibly lore accurate to the NFL. For example, about 85-90% of NFL owners are at least 75 years old. They have much more immediate interests in "winning now" or making as much profit as possible. That means, making stupid trades for three of a team's 1st round picks, to only move up a couple spots, really happens. The rest? Not so much.
I think originally they were gonna make Bo Callahan a clear bust, but no NFL team, in a work of fiction, didn’t want them to draft a clear bust. So they instead made it that “he could have a been a bust” instead of a clear bust.
I love that Costner has to ask his people what the name of the Jax GM is. Also, another GM(Houston I think) calls Costner to get a scouting report on Mack. Its like bro, did you not scout him yourself? Also, Mack complains about possibly falling out of the top 10 or whatever because he needs money to take care of his nephews. Dude thats still millions of dollars.
I think the script writer thought if Mike Ditka could swap 1st round picks with Washington and add a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round pick plus a 1st rounder and 3rd rounder the next year for Ricky Williams, then any ridiculous scenario is possible. I blame Ditka and the 1999 Saints for this movie.
I thought this was a narrative documentary movie, seems authentic to me imagine giving somebody a 230 million guaranteed contract for five year to a player who only played 15 games
My take is always this - positional value is a real thing. QB is far and away the most important position on the team, just look at the fact that despite being one of the worst-run and cheapest organisations, with poor coaching and a terrible defence, the Bengals are still in with a shot at the playoffs (this may age poorly), why? Because they have a top 4 QB. Cleveland doesn't have a franchise QB otherwise they wouldn't be considering drafting Callahan. They give up the opportunity to get one, twice, for a linebacker, a running back (now one of the least valuable positions in the league) and a kick returner, while giving up three years of second round picks. As they likely could have got Mack with their original pick, effectively they traded three second round picks for a running back and a kick returner - that's the sort of idiocy that gets GMs fired. As for the Seahawks, if Callahan ends up being a top 5 or even top 10 QB, then 3 firsts is fine and Cleveland looks stupid, if he's a bust then everyone is getting fired anyway, regardless of what they traded. Plus if they were really keen on him they could have traded up with any of the teams above them the moment Cleveland took Mack and the Jags, as foolish as they were, would surely have called the Seahawks and asked if they wanted to move up as Cleveland was trying to.
Here's the best part: watch the tape. Vontae calls himself "a lighting quick middle LB who can murder the gaps in the 3-4." But the tape shows him rushing from the Edge every rep. So Sonny took an Edge rusher to play off ball LB at #1 overall. Funny thing is, Steve Keim has said Draft Day is the most accurate movie ever made. Movie came out April 7, 2014. On April 30th, 2015, Steve Keim, at #15 overall, took Hassan Reddick, Temple Edge Rusher who played off ball one game at the Senior Bowl. Arizona proceeded to play Hassan at off ball for 3 failed years before Vance Joseph came in and moved him back to Edge. Hassan then exploded his final year, but was so over the organization, he walked.
The dumbest thing about this movie is how Sonny doesn’t at any time let any of his staff know what his strategy is or what he is trying to accomplish with his ridiculous moves.
I love how they try to yadda yadda away the second trade with Seattle. Somehow the details of the first trade weren't public knowledge, so Seahawks fans didn't know that Seattle had all of Cleveland's future picks in the first place.
It'd be a short movie if it went according to facts. Not even the Raiders would do what the protagonist did in this film. Maybe Al Davis, after all he left Oakland, only to move back.
From a storytelling perspective, they really should've stressed that they needed a punt returner. Or established David Putney in some way. Either make him the best returner in the league or present him as someone Sonny was interested in before.
I’ve always found it strange how the film writers chose the Broncos to get the first overall pick in this movie, despite being one of three teams to never have the 1st pick.
Say whatever you want but they not only did a vibe based retelling of the Browns acquiring Johnny Football, they also predicted their stupid and entirely useless acquisition of DeShaun Watson which happened half a decade after the movie came out. Seems pretty good to me.
I still love this movie because of the actors In this movie. I understand the trade thing was dumb like you ain't getting yo picks back when you trade them but I still loved this movie.
The most ridiculous thing about the Seattle trade is that they needed a QB, had the # 1 pick, had what appeared to be a generational QB ready to draft, and they still traded the pick to Cleveland. That’s a fireable offence. Can you imagine the Colts trading away from drafting Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck? The entire city would be ready to burn down the stadium. As for trading back all of Cleveland’s picks plus the punt returner, for a guy who you could have just taken at # 1, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The Seattle GM is officially the worst in the league.
They didnt expect that quaterback to fall like that, now they have a actual shot at getting him and the quaterback they needed they had to re do the deal
thinking about all the seahawks terrible asset management, not only do they get the picks just to give them up for a guy they were willing to pass on anyway, they ALSO give up a punt returner for... reasons? so instead of drafting Bo at 1, they draft him at 7 and give away an obviously good punt returner if the browns wanted the guy this bad.
Love the movie and while I feel in your sarcasm you misrepresent a few things.... for example, winning and losing is always a thing, but more importantly the owner wanted to make a splash. I've no doubt that similar scenarios have played out in the NFL where an owner steps in with a specific demand, I suspect it's actually fairly common. The biggest criticism seems to be the terms of the 2 trades and I agree, the trade with the seahawks especially is insane... the first trade was with a new GM if I recall correctly and it's not that crazy to think a new GM could drop the ball that badly, still in both cases yes, not realistic at all but then again this is a movie and much like a WWE match, we all suspend disbelief for the entertainment value. While I think if you are watching the movie for a documentary on draft day you will be disappointed, if you watch it for it's entertainment value and some interesting interactions between Owner/GM, GM/coach, GM/player and the general excitement that surrounds the draft every year, well you might just find you enjoy it.
I knew this movie wasn’t realistic when Roger Goodell came out for the draft and he wasn’t booed by the fans
Ayyye props for the Hester mention. One of my faves
I knew it wasn’t realistic when a bunch of 1st rounders were begging to go to Cleveland
The movie slaps, you knew it was gonna e fraudulent when they made Cleveland the protagonist
The owner being a win now idiot was pretty on brand though
As a Cleveland browns fan I can agree
Propaganda at its finest. Cleveland to follow would be a shit show
It’s pretty common Cleveland is in the low end of the draft. Especially when this movie was made
I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS😭😭😭😭
The browns were willing to give up significant capital for the first pick and didn’t interview the #1 QB?? 😭
A very Browns thing to do.
The most realistic thing in the movie.
They had to kake it very realistic. Its a browns thing to do
I mean that does sound like the Browns
See the present team for their quarterback. Three #1 for semi-star.
The important thing to remember is that thanks to all those trades, Cleveland would go 0-16. They had Superman and Black Panther and could not win.
Hahahah
I can’t believe nobody had a problem w him fucking the financial manager seems like a bad thing
Definitely not the most professional work environment
@@AndaiMB it is Cleveland after all
Did they know though? I had always gotten the impression they were seeing each other in secret.
@@AndaiMBThe movie director not just a browns fanboy with a power fantasy but a sexual fantasy too? Damn lmao
@@MustacheDLuffyGeorge Kokkinnis took inspiration from this movie
I still can’t believe they traded 3 seconds for pick 6 then flipped that pick for 3 firsts
I agree. I thought this film was stupid but some people like it. I noticed Rich Eisen brings it up and forgot he is in the movie. Anyone in the NFL in this film says nice things about it. LOL As for the draft trading this is the NFL and during the draft all these NFL Teams act like Teenager's playing in a local Fantasy Football League making wild trades. NFL Teams covet First Rd Draft Picks. Trading your 6th pick for 3 2's is dumb and trading 3 first rd picks for the 6th pick is dumber. Both the Jags and Seattle GM would be fired. Look at all the heat the Falcon's front office is taking for signing Kirk Cousins to an over priced FA contract and taking Penix at #8 right now. These trades in the film were manipulated so as to create drama and in the end make Costner's character look brilliant. I doubt the XFL would make these kind of trades. I compare the dumb College Basketball film Blue Chips as comparison. I live in Indiana where Blue Chips was filmed. Nick Nolte basically is trying to play Bobby Knight. What's amusing is when Blue Chips came out in 1994 the local media was all about promoting the film. After it came out no one was willing to admit it was stupid.
@@TJIRISH44the acting was really was good but that’s it
right? like couldn't seattle just make a better deal with jacksonville directly?
@tBagley43 Jacksonville had already traded the #6 pick so that point is irrelevant. Seattle didn't call because Jax didn't need a QB so they thought they would just get Callahan at #7 without needing to trade. I hate to defend this movie because it is kind of corny. But there is a reason he traded up to #1, why we was able to get #6 from Jax, and why Seattle took the trade to #6 to get their franchise QB.
@@tomjr6779 What they gave up and what they got doesn't make a lot of sense.
I like how he asks, “What do we need?” Like he doesn’t know his own team lol
forgot p diddy was in this movie lmao
I think we’d all like to forget
ain’t no party like a diddy party
I'm here right after his video release 😮
Diddy loves playing with the Browns
With Diddy as Callahan's agent, I think we all know why nobody attended his 21st Birthday Party
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Here's three reasons I never bought the $100 in playbook scenario:
1) They act like these college players don't talk to each other. How many years would they try this trick before it's common knowledge? One group text ruins the whole thing.
2) I assume they don't really put the $100 on the last page. If it's an actual playbook, it's a binder with hundreds of plays. Even if a player looks at the binder for two minutes, they're going to look at the first few pages and then flip to the end of the book. The $100 should be tucked in between the halfway point and 3/4.
3) If you're a top 10 prospect, and you're sent 5 to 10 playbooks by different teams you're not going to read 10 playbooks cover to cover. Why? That's what training camp with your teammates/coaches is for.
Yes, I've put more thought into this playbook than the writers did in all the trade scenarios at the end of the movie.
You should’ve been in the writer’s room
You want a general understanding of scheme and how to break down defenses. A playbook is just white noise and learning every play... is kinda dumb for a team you likely won't play for.
@@jdramirez77 Not to mention the team leaves themselves extremely vulnerable to getting their playbook stolen
Writers didn’t make that up, teams have done similar things in the past.
Search Jamarcus Russell of the Raiders
You guys don’t watch sports often? You didn’t play sports growing up?
In general, it seems like everyone in this thread doesn’t understand sports, business or assessing and choosing the correct candidate for an enterprises needs?
Is it a dumb movie? Yes. Do I still really enjoy it and watch it every year on draft day? Also yes. Weird how the movie starts with Seattle having the 1st pick considering they’re 1 of only 3 teams who’ve never picked 1st overall. Although the most hilarious aspect of this move is the implication that Dallas recently won a SB.
Same. Since it came out, I watch it either the day before or day of the NFL draft.
It's incredibly amusing as a seahawks fan to see them have the no 1 overall pick in 2014, when in reality 2013 was the year they utterly skullfucked the Broncos in the Superbowl.
Cowboys doing anything resemblimg competence is really the most unrealistic part
I like to imagine the ring was one of the 90s Cowboys super bowls. Denis Leary is old enough to have been in his late 30 during the Emmet Smith era 😂
Very unrealistic but fun.
Seems like the script could’ve been used another draft
*bah dum tiss*
@@zachhoepfer521 I could’ve also said that the real draft day was when they wrote this script in 24 hours
The funniest thing about this movie is how the Seahawks have the first overall pick. This is funny because the Seahawks literally won the Super Bowl the season before the movie came out.
Most unrealistic thing in the movie? Seahawks having the #1 pick.
Seahawks have NEVER had pick #1 in their 50 year existence. Never.
This movie was so fucking absurd
Kirk Cousins just became real-life Brian Drew
The thing that frustrated me most about this movie is they completely gave up on realism with that last seahawks/browns trade just to get a cheap happy ending, and they assumed the audience was too stupid to realize no team would agree to those terms.
I willing to be ok with it, because stupid trades have happened before. Dallas-Viking trade for Walker was unrealistic but actually did occur.
@TNTITAN fair point about Walker, that was ridiculous by the Vikings. but modern era of the draft I can't think of a single example where a team gave up all those 1sts, plus a player, just to move up from 7 to 6. If it had been from 3 to 1 then yes that has happened before, but to jump a single space after pick 5, in exchange for that compensation has literally never once happened.
Crazy things do happen. Like the Saints and Ricky Williams deal
Ok, couch GM. Enlighten us!!!!!
@v4v819 enlighten you about what exactly?
Ironically the guy from money ball now runs the Browns in real life
I didn’t know that that’s interesting
@@cowboyschad5x778 Jonah Hill's character does, not Brad Pitt's
That explains a lot.
Brad Pitt runs the Browns?
@@v4v819 Jonah Hill does
Lets not forget that in REAL LIFE, the Browns traded 3 first and 2 seconds for Deshaun Watson from the Texans. Then those same Texans facing the choice between CJ Stroud and Will Anderson made the trades on draft night to get both
2023 offensive and defensive rookies of the year
1. That happened a DECADE after this dumpster fire of a film.
2. The Texans trade was at least logical for one team; you can’t say the same for ANY team in this trainwreck.
I liked the movie until that final trade. The producers did so much to make this movie appear realistic and then shat the bed at the last second.
Honestly if it weren’t for that final trade there probably wouldn’t be a video about this movie on my channel
Even the Jaguars trade before that didn't make a lot of sense. Just this year the Texans got two second rounders for a pick in the 20s and we're supposed a buy that the 6th pick is worth just one more?
@@bigbearkat2010that trade was bad imo too. No team will give up 3 seconds for pick 6 although do suggest looking at the Julio Jones draft trade.
Browns traded 6th overall pick for 27th overall pick, 2nd rounder that year 4ths this and next and a future 1st round pick. Same trade except for 27th being a late 1st and an extra 1st vs a 2nd. Keep in mind this was considered a lot at the time
@@MustacheDLuffy it was considered a lot at the time because it was. I personally have a hard believing any GM would willingly give up a top 10 pick without at least a 1st being in the equation.
@@bigbearkat2010I’m not saying the movie was realistic but the whole point was the Jaguars GM was a novice who the Browns believed was out of his depth so they believed they could force him to panic while he was on the clock and make a bad trade. Yeah it was far fetched and it wouldn’t happen in real life but in the movie they did the best they could to up the drama by showing the Jaguars GM panicking that drafting BC would be career destroying because he had missed something that everyone else knew. A movie about the Browns trading up to No.1 to pick the best QB then they draft him wouldn’t have made for much drama.
They also spend the whole movie acting like 2 future firsts to move from 7 to 1 is some unbelievable fleecing and not just par for the course.
This movie is kind of terrible but I love it and it’s a draft day tradition for me.
Isn’t that literally what the Panthers and Bears just did last year?
@@anthonystrangio panthers basically paid more than that. A future first+ 2 future seconds +dj Moore.
and the browns FO keeps saying "yOu GaVe Up 3 FiRsTs" no.. you gave up 2, you swapped one, and traded your next 2.
I don't doubt for a second that the movie based Molina on Dan Snyder. This movie came out before Dan Snyder's more horrendous antics really came to light, but from a pure football standpoint, Molina is 100% Dan Snyder. "Make a splash", "Win now", "I'm gonna fire you if you don't do what I say."
Is the movie itself greatly exaggerated? Absolutely. Do I still really enjoy it because I'm an NFL junkie? Absolutely.
To make it feel realistic, they had to end the movie before the season starts. We all know, if it goes on past that, Cleveland finishes 9-7, get knocked out of the wild card of the playoffs. Then the following season, they'd go 5-11, follow that with a 4-12 season, then Costner is fired.
Ah… the Romeo Crennel era aka ERROR.
3 rds fir the 6th overall pick that gm would be fired within minutes
People always say this movie isnt realistic like the actual Browns didn't draft trent richardson two years earlier
This movie was so bad it was good😂 The ending took me out, the things the GM did made me feel like the writers had very limited knowledge on how an NFL front office is was ran.
I always loved how on the morning of the draft, holding pick 7, Cleveland only had TWO players on their draft board.
Jerry maguire is a good fictional sports movie
It's a bad sports movie in that it isn't really a sports movie; make Tom Cruise a music agent instead and the movie works just as well.
But it's a great sports movie because Rod Tidwell is a fucking iconic movie athlete.
If they just made this movie about NBA draft day, it would've been a bigger hit, and all trades would seem great because literally any random sh!t happens in the NBA.
Needs a scene where a homeless drifter convinces the Browns on whom to draft
The GM and the owner having conflicting views on how to improve the team? This is the most accurate movie to describe the browns front office before 2020
Lifelong Seahawks fan from Seattle currently living in Cleveland. If John Schneider gave up 3 first round draft picks (from the BROWNS no less...) for Justin Herbert or Daniel Jones (two QBs drafted #6 overall), I'd be FURIOUS with him. I'd be in blue and green war paint camped outside his house with a bullhorn at 3AM getting arrested for disturbing the peace.
what was even more dumb was all these paid scouts didn't notice that every time Vontae and Bo were on the field together, Bo got happy feet, but he played fine when Vontae was out. The fact that Vontae was the one to point that out is nuts lmao. The most basic commentators would've caught that.
How did the browns owner get from radio City music hall in NYC back to Berea in less than 40 minutes?
Great video! You missed one of the biggest flaws (that nobody else has picked up on either lol). It's about Vontae Mack. And this story is wild. Indulge me a bit:
So Vontae Mack is the one who classifies himself as a "lighting fast middle linebacker who can murder the gaps in the 3-4." Sonny makes a comment "got Reggie Wilson's number down at Purdue?" It seems like a simple jab, but it's more. We don't really see Vontae's tape until after the phone call where he tells Sonny to watch what happens after Vontae sacks Bo. The Browns watch the tape of all Vontae's sacks. And here's the issue. If you watch the tape, Vontae Mack is always shown as an edge rusher. Dennis Leary even says Vontae "has a wicked first step I'll give him that." Something that's typically said about Edge rushers, not off ball LB's. So, what is so damn funny about all of this you ask?
Failed Cardinals GM, who held his job way too long at a whopping 10 years. The same man who drafted Andy Isabella ahead of DK Metcalf and Scary Terry, the same man who ignored his franchise QB he just drafted, and took Isaiah Simmons ahead of Tristan Wirfs or Ceedee Lamb, is on record saying Draft Day is "the most accurate movie ever made."
In 2015, Steve Keim drafted Temple Edge Rusher, Hassan Reddick in the first round. His first three years, they had him playing off ball LB because he did it once in the Senior Bowl.
The 2015 draft was April 30th, 2015.
Draft Day was released April 7, 2014.
Steve Keim got his draft strategy from a shitty Kevin Costner movie, and is now charging parents of HS football players $5000 to evaluate their kid's tape 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 What a 🤡
I usually don’t respond to comments to older videos, but this is actually insane if true holy shit lmao
@AndaiMB Everything I said is true. Keim didn't actually get his draft strategy that way lol. But you can fact check everything and it'll check out.
True story.
Theres a video of former Chargers GM Tom Telesco reviewing this movie, and he said tue birthday party thing would actually be a big deal. Though his biggest complaint, which he made like 8 times, was how empty the whiteboards were.
It's a silly ass movie but every year I watch it before the draft just cause
It’s basically the draft’s own Christmas movie if that makes sense lmao
@@AndaiMB that's it exactly
Jennifer Garner was the expert capologist 😂😂😂😂
The Seahawks reasoning for the trade was because of salary cap issues. By making the 2nd trade, they got Callahan at a 7 million dollar cheaper contract and the GM saves face. Not saying the trade was smart. Just providing their reason in the movie which isn’t mentioned in the video
Which is even dumber honestly. How badly is this team mismanaged that they can't spare cap space for their generational draft pick that's going to make next to nothing salary wise for the next several seasons?
@@bigbearkat2010 yea…at the end of the day, it is just a movie lol.
Nice try, Mr. Straw Man
It may be, ‘just a movie’, but said movie is someone’s job to accurately portray and/or create; and that person failed..
In almost any other job, if you fail to competently perform your duties; you’d get fired.
Whereas, most movie directors and writers, just get to simply cut their losses, without significant repercussions; more often than not.
So, holding crappy or inaccurate movies accountable, is the least we should do.
but couldn't they just make a better trade with jacksonville directly?
Lmao so Seattle, a team with the first overall pick, which most likely their pick, which means they're basically dogshit, have no cap space for a first overall pick? The GM should be fired before the movie takes place
I know it's been 10 years but I ought to apologize to my dad for making him pay for us to this stupid ass film in theaters. I keep forgetting about its existence
I audibly gasped at the diddy cameo, I legitimately forgot about that part 😂
If there’s draft day2
Bryant Drew re-injure 1st game into the season, Ray cannot shake his off the field problem, Mack is a bust and Bo overcome his mental weakness after seeing therapist and become ROY.
Sunny fxxk up all the picks their get back from the Seahawks.
Spending the 7th overall pick on Arian Foster 8 years after he retired is wild though.
Draft day is awesome . The fact that it inspires content like this to get made and all of us to engage is proof of that
Sorry about your 21st. Long ago, I wrestled Div1 and my 21st birthday was mid-season. We could not drink or even eat, really. So we played poker and I lost $40 that I had to borrow. I miss those guys every day.
I feel like there is a video hating on every movie ever made , wether it is actually good or bad
It is the internet after all. We all have an opinion on something
@@AndaiMB true, I didn’t mean hate in anyway btw lol I was just stating the fact that I always see movies that I enjoyed on UA-cam videos ranting about why they aren’t good
@@baconcurtain5089 don’t worry I didn’t interpret it as hate lmao
The most unrealistic thing about this movie is that the Cleveland Browns make a good decision for their organization.
Seeing Clark and Johnathan Kent argue like that brings a tear to my eye😢
What could Diddy possibly be doing in this movie bro 😭😭😭
"oh F not this guy" showing Diddy 😂 AndaiMB knew about Diddy 6 months ago
The most unrealistic part of the movie is that in the last scene, all the Browns fans are happy with the two picks and they start chanting “Super Bowl, Super Bowl” and it’s supposed to be this emotional moment
I started laughing when I heard that
Fun fact: the seahawks, ravens, and broncos (suprisingly) have never had a first overall pick ever
Main character who we are supposed to believe is a genius panics hard, gets made a fool of by his peers/competitors, and makes a mess for his team.
His co-workers call him out for his stupidity and he tells them to shut up and trust him to do his job.
Main character somehow totally redeems himself because his peer unexpectedly panics even harder to draft a QB they are not crazy about.
Draft haul is sketchy as regards turning team into immediate contender, largely dependent on whether the QB they already have can drastically improve performance in coming season.
I expect main character got fired at season's end.
Yeah Sonny as a character is really confusing. In real life the GMs that pay 3 first rounders like this are ridiculed hard and at best are labeled as the biggest black marks of their careers if they're not seen as an outright joke but this movie wants us to believe he's playing 4D chess. Then again he wouldn't be a Costner protagonist without other characters talking about how awesome he is like he's in a Steven Seagal movie.
Costner redeemed himself because his counter parts were dumber. In the end the Browns owner is happy. But in reality he went back home and thought is THIS the kind of man I want being GM of my team? Costner traded up to the first pick to draft a Linebacker/pass rusher IMAO. Only reason teams trade up in the NFL is for a QB. Yet Costner character is made out to be brilliant at the end. LOL
You can’t pull a Scott Fitterer followed by a Ryan pace and expect to not get fired. Those 2 drafted Bryce young and Mitchell Trubisky and have both since been fired.
He didn’t because as you’ve mentioned his GM peers panic even harder than he panics
@@MustacheDLuffy At least with Fitterer and Pace their trade ups were on the premise they'd be getting the much needed QB of the future so they got a few months or even a couple years before people felt comfortable laughing at them. Costner got a defensive player he didn't even need to trade up for in the first place, without Seattle blinking, he'd probably be evaluated for the psych ward.
@@bigbearkat2010 he gave up significant capital like Fitterer did and then pulls a Ryan pace by not letting anybody know who he was going to draft which Ryan pace did not letting anybody know he wanted Trubisky
I don’t know how you double down on stupid moves and even keep your job after the season
I remember this movie being pitched as the browns actually having a good draft, but it seems like massive incompetence by the GM and they do nothing to show us that any of this actually worked out.
I imagine the pitch is like whatever sports fantasy Costner wants to play out, it's a go. A perfect game in baseball...For Love of the Game. Play in the US Open? Tin Cup. Be an NFL GM. Draft Day. Sure why not.
Players in the locker room pre draft? Thats way over achieving for off season OTA’s.
Don't forget when Sonny is spinning 6 for 7, he mentions to SEA that they get the QB Messiah for $7M less. And SEA is like, huh? Like they didn't know that already, they treat it as new info, that it solves their salary cap problem. IT'S ALREADY SOLVED AT 7!!!! They actually pay more to move up to 6.
I like watching this movie every once in awhile because it is "dumb" fun. But its logic is just baffling.
Tbf, Tim Dwight was part of the Vick/Tomlinson trade and he was a punt returner.
I thought the problem was that he had read the playbook, and took the hundred, but lied about taking it.
4:14 not true. Kirk Cousins didn't tweet negatively about Atlanta management when they drafted Penix
Kirk Cousins is practically a Boy Scout, he isn’t one to cause a scene. Also, I don’t think Falcons management directly went to him and said what Sonny had said
@@AndaiMB They've guaranteed him 100 million before he's even had training camp with them, until this latest draft, I assumed Kirk would be the last guy they'd want to deliberately piss off.
The first 2 minutes & 20 seconds of the video is actually incredibly lore accurate to the NFL. For example, about 85-90% of NFL owners are at least 75 years old. They have much more immediate interests in "winning now" or making as much profit as possible. That means, making stupid trades for three of a team's 1st round picks, to only move up a couple spots, really happens.
The rest? Not so much.
I think originally they were gonna make Bo Callahan a clear bust, but no NFL team, in a work of fiction, didn’t want them to draft a clear bust. So they instead made it that “he could have a been a bust” instead of a clear bust.
I love that Costner has to ask his people what the name of the Jax GM is. Also, another GM(Houston I think) calls Costner to get a scouting report on Mack. Its like bro, did you not scout him yourself?
Also, Mack complains about possibly falling out of the top 10 or whatever because he needs money to take care of his nephews. Dude thats still millions of dollars.
I think the script writer thought if Mike Ditka could swap 1st round picks with Washington and add a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round pick plus a 1st rounder and 3rd rounder the next year for Ricky Williams, then any ridiculous scenario is possible. I blame Ditka and the 1999 Saints for this movie.
I thought this was a narrative documentary movie, seems authentic to me imagine giving somebody a 230 million guaranteed contract for five year to a player who only played 15 games
If you get the #1 draft, but you can't afford the #1 paycheck what do you do?
My take is always this - positional value is a real thing. QB is far and away the most important position on the team, just look at the fact that despite being one of the worst-run and cheapest organisations, with poor coaching and a terrible defence, the Bengals are still in with a shot at the playoffs (this may age poorly), why? Because they have a top 4 QB.
Cleveland doesn't have a franchise QB otherwise they wouldn't be considering drafting Callahan. They give up the opportunity to get one, twice, for a linebacker, a running back (now one of the least valuable positions in the league) and a kick returner, while giving up three years of second round picks. As they likely could have got Mack with their original pick, effectively they traded three second round picks for a running back and a kick returner - that's the sort of idiocy that gets GMs fired.
As for the Seahawks, if Callahan ends up being a top 5 or even top 10 QB, then 3 firsts is fine and Cleveland looks stupid, if he's a bust then everyone is getting fired anyway, regardless of what they traded. Plus if they were really keen on him they could have traded up with any of the teams above them the moment Cleveland took Mack and the Jags, as foolish as they were, would surely have called the Seahawks and asked if they wanted to move up as Cleveland was trying to.
It helps to think it take place in an alternate universe where everybody is insane
A line backer at first overall like it’s the 60s
Just wait till you learn about the 2022 NFL draft
Happens a lot still actually ever heard of Edge rushers? lol
@@slimjim4299gonna be one of the worst drafts ever ong
Here's the best part: watch the tape. Vontae calls himself "a lighting quick middle LB who can murder the gaps in the 3-4." But the tape shows him rushing from the Edge every rep. So Sonny took an Edge rusher to play off ball LB at #1 overall.
Funny thing is, Steve Keim has said Draft Day is the most accurate movie ever made. Movie came out April 7, 2014. On April 30th, 2015, Steve Keim, at #15 overall, took Hassan Reddick, Temple Edge Rusher who played off ball one game at the Senior Bowl. Arizona proceeded to play Hassan at off ball for 3 failed years before Vance Joseph came in and moved him back to Edge. Hassan then exploded his final year, but was so over the organization, he walked.
The dumbest thing about this movie is how Sonny doesn’t at any time let any of his staff know what his strategy is or what he is trying to accomplish with his ridiculous moves.
I love how they try to yadda yadda away the second trade with Seattle. Somehow the details of the first trade weren't public knowledge, so Seahawks fans didn't know that Seattle had all of Cleveland's future picks in the first place.
Love when i discover a new channel... Great work brother. Hilarious, concise and entertaining ✊🏽
What’s even funnier is early on it said “the Browns have been to the playoffs twice since 1999.” 3:49, Brian Drew plays the playoff card 😂😂😂
It'd be a short movie if it went according to facts. Not even the Raiders would do what the protagonist did in this film. Maybe Al Davis, after all he left Oakland, only to move back.
From a storytelling perspective, they really should've stressed that they needed a punt returner. Or established David Putney in some way. Either make him the best returner in the league or present him as someone Sonny was interested in before.
Duffy sightings are forever gonna be hilarious
So when is your movie coming out? Can't wait to watch it.
Trading up to draft a LB 1st overall is the most unrealistic aspect of this movie 😂
I’ve always found it strange how the film writers chose the Broncos to get the first overall pick in this movie, despite being one of three teams to never have the 1st pick.
I knew the movie was stupid and unrealistic when they depicted players excited and eager to play for Cleveland.
As a Browns fan I feel so much worse about this movie knowing Diddy is in it
Say whatever you want but they not only did a vibe based retelling of the Browns acquiring Johnny Football, they also predicted their stupid and entirely useless acquisition of DeShaun Watson which happened half a decade after the movie came out. Seems pretty good to me.
your channel is awesome & you are actually pretty chill, subed & hopefully one day I'll say been here since 1K. keep up the good work & HF👍
I still love this movie because of the actors In this movie. I understand the trade thing was dumb like you ain't getting yo picks back when you trade them but I still loved this movie.
Only thing worse than Draft Day is this video where you rehash the whole movie and state several inaccuracies
As someone who could never get a trade through in Madden this movie exercised some demons
I will absolutely not stand for draft day hate. good shit tho bro keep grinding
@5:50 I am pretty sure the coaches could muster up a few hundred dollars to tape to the playbooks regardless of the owner's frugality.
Always good to be ban*ing the hell out of a woman in your office, good lord is this movie made 10 years ago lol
Whose alternate identity is this channel? Skyes? Or MysticUmbreon. Bro sounds like both of them
The most ridiculous thing about the Seattle trade is that they needed a QB, had the # 1 pick, had what appeared to be a generational QB ready to draft, and they still traded the pick to Cleveland. That’s a fireable offence.
Can you imagine the Colts trading away from drafting Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck? The entire city would be ready to burn down the stadium.
As for trading back all of Cleveland’s picks plus the punt returner, for a guy who you could have just taken at # 1, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
The Seattle GM is officially the worst in the league.
They didnt expect that quaterback to fall like that, now they have a actual shot at getting him and the quaterback they needed they had to re do the deal
3 first round picks to move up 1 spot is insane
thinking about all the seahawks terrible asset management, not only do they get the picks just to give them up for a guy they were willing to pass on anyway, they ALSO give up a punt returner for... reasons? so instead of drafting Bo at 1, they draft him at 7 and give away an obviously good punt returner if the browns wanted the guy this bad.
Adding the punt returner was fucking hilarious and really shows how much whoever wrote this has zero clue how the nfl works.
Didn’t this come out the year after the hawks won the SB? And they have the first pick…
It's both great yet awful at the same time, if that makes sense.
Love the movie and while I feel in your sarcasm you misrepresent a few things.... for example, winning and losing is always a thing, but more importantly the owner wanted to make a splash. I've no doubt that similar scenarios have played out in the NFL where an owner steps in with a specific demand, I suspect it's actually fairly common. The biggest criticism seems to be the terms of the 2 trades and I agree, the trade with the seahawks especially is insane... the first trade was with a new GM if I recall correctly and it's not that crazy to think a new GM could drop the ball that badly, still in both cases yes, not realistic at all but then again this is a movie and much like a WWE match, we all suspend disbelief for the entertainment value. While I think if you are watching the movie for a documentary on draft day you will be disappointed, if you watch it for it's entertainment value and some interesting interactions between Owner/GM, GM/coach, GM/player and the general excitement that surrounds the draft every year, well you might just find you enjoy it.
And yet, I will watch this every year on draft day. As is tradition.
With the hopeful, happy ending I always imagine the Browns absolutely shitting the bed the next season and the GM getting fired and laugh my ass off
6:18 IS THAT DIDDY??? 😭😭😭