You know Charles, I was up late tossing and turning last night thinking the same thing and let me just be the first to say that thank GOD somebody put those horrific thoughts I was having into words.
A Bloke called John Parnell was the whole reason that triple roadtrains exist in Australia. He worked with the department of transport and it actually worked. Then he used triple road trains to cart fuel to remote NT, SA and QLD with his business Parnell Transport. For those efforts he was inducted to Australian Transport Hall of Fame. And hes my Grand Dad.
I've seen quite a few four dog trains and once near Winton I saw two by five doggers, one behind the other. Never seen one since but I believe they are common round mining sites.
Actually it is widely recognised that Kurt Johansson who first pioneered road trains in the Northern Territory around Alice Springs. His truck "Big Bertha" is in the Road Transport Hall of Fame in Alice Spring and Noel Buntine iis another Pioneer who revolutionised the Road Train in the 1960's making it what it is today. My Father worked for Mr Buntine and they were mates and he treated us like family as he treated all his drivers. "In 1983, with the Australian Road Research Board, Melbourne, considerable research work was undertaken with Parnell equipment to provide information on which the requirements of operation of triple roadtrains were developed. With Dr. Peter Sweatman and others from ARRB assisting, the first triple roadtrain running from Pt. Augusta to the SA/NT border commenced operations under strict supervision." Quote taken from the Road Transport Hall of Fame. Triple road trains were already in use in NT at the time and the . I remember my fist ride in a Tanami Cattle truck with my Uncle Bruce "Pissy" Pepperill about 1983 and Road Trains were every where. Sherwins, Buntines (later to become Road Trains Australia or RTA), Co-Ord where all running trains across the NT from Mt Isa Qld to Derby WA and Clan Contracting (Derby WA) and Gulf Transport (Jim Cooper is a legendary pioneer of the Road Train industry, he later bought RTA forming GulfRTA) from 60's and 70's. In the 1979 the Federal and SA Government undertook to seal the Stuart highway completing it in 1987, just in time for the Bicentennial Celebrations'. Massive road building project required massive amounts of machines and fuel. And there wasn't just one camp. There were road work camps North of the SA/NT Border, The Alice to SA Border Section was being sealed at the same time. Your Grand Dad would have nailed it with the contract to cart fuel to the road work crews! How ever in the late 70's and early 80's there were several cases of Fuel Tankers catching fire or rolling over about 30km South of Alice Springs on the old dirt Stuart Highway. My Father caught one incident on his brand new Super 8 movie camera in the very early 80's or maybe '79 that was used in a court case in Alice Springs where a car cut of and dusted a Road Train carrying fuel causing it to crash and catch fire. The entire train burned. If your Grand Dad is still alive, ask him about that one. It might have been one of his trucks.
@@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell Ok thanks for the correction! I couldnt help myself from laughing someone being called pissy. I never thought someone could be called that. And yes John Parnell is still alive and I enjoy his company. Hes an idol to me and I'll ask him about it.
@@Hayden_TGM He was called Pissy because he was a big piss head. Always drunk, got sacked from Sherwin Transport a few times for being piss wrecked but Peter Sherwin would always re-employ him hahahaha. John Parnell was probably, just guessing, a huge contributor to how safe fuel tankers are today.
@@Hayden_TGM Tell him Richard Kay is also bright and Healthy in Darwin was talking with him just the other day! Spent many an hour chatting about outback trucking, I am an Indentured Tradesman Diesel mechanic. who did my Apprenticeship in the late 70s in Darwin, if he knew pissy he knows Richard Kay.
Ex Aussie truckie here. You've hit the points pretty well mate. I've driven both conventional and cab overs from the centre of Sydney to the remote centre of West Oz and I can say that while my personal preference is for conventional style I wouldn't be without a cab over while in a city. It makes things so much easier to be able to have that much smaller turning radius and the extra 2 to 3 MTRS we can pull forward. The only thing I will add is most of the guys running long haul and road trains would kill for some of the American setups that have things like a small kitchen or toilet/shower because there are a lot of lonely stretches with nowhere to stop and rest properly.
Must be the pits being 150km from the next place with a shower and shitter when you have only 30 mins wheel-time left, and the owner can't be arsed paying for AFM certification because 'BFM is just fine... and cheaper.'
American here! We were in a conventional truck and all we had was a mini fridge and a microwave. The problem with the shower/toilet setups is that they add weight and length- utterly impractical if you have to be anywhere near a city. I don’t know what your DOT equivalent is like but ours will absolutely slam you on weight. Funny thing is that we were never more than about 2 hours from a gas station (usually with showers) so that kind of a setup would be way more practical for a trip to Alice Springs or wherever than it would be anywhere in the US!
@@Axqu7227 they also add cost. Only trucks I've seen with that kind of setup were show-grade trucks. Not necessarily purely for show, but they had that kind of money poured into them.
As a Western Australian, I had no clue that the rest of the world didn’t have the same variety in trucks as us. I knew we were special for our road trains but I assumed the rest of the trucking world would look fairly similar.
Probably because rural australia has literally nothing in it, while rural america and canada still have paved roads and communities every couple dozen kilometers/miles. That means people will complain, and police will pull you over. Road trains don't have many external factors to worry about
It is a bigger safety concern in America since almost all roads have a specific lane width. In Australia it seems you have hundreds of miles of open land with hardly any traffic and wider roads but over here in America there will always be some traffic and the risks involved in having a trailer train of that length means the whole train can shift many feet to the left or right due to bumps, wind, and unlevel roads. The longest trailer you can tow with a pickup truck (Ford F350 and the like) is 53 feet long. The longest trailer train you can have is a triple which maxes out at 105 feet long and they are exclusive to semi trucks. This is the highest maximum length I know of, there are almost certainly different laws on this depending on the state. Had to research if it was possible to tow a 24 foot enclosed trailer while towing a camper behind that at one point. The laws have too much legalese talk to them but from what I understood it is also possible to tow multiple trailers behind a pickup as long as the towed items when attached to each other do not exceed 53 feet total.
I've seen small road trains in the US. Two small trailers instead of the typical long one. But we get cabovers and bonneteds. Not too many japanese semis though
In the USA it's mostly bonneted trucks. Cabovers are mostly a leftover and not being sold here at all to my understanding, while In my opinion being superior for many tasks
As an American trucker, I knew about the road trains but I had no idea how versatile the truck market is in Australia. Hats off to the road warriors down under!
@@alpharaptor7510 They are making those old trucks easier to live and work in all the time. Back when I was young in the 1950's, those poor old drivers looked like they were beat to death by the time they were sixty. I retired at seventy, and was in far better shape than those okd guys a generation before. The truck itself as well as available services have made the job far easier. It still remains a high stress and often difficult occupation.
And, until the liberal government killed it, we had a local car industry making Utes which were great for hauling without the unpleasant verticality of american trucks.
@@superchroma Actually it was GM recording Subsidiaries and Assistance Loans as Income then sending the cash to the US, they then said the market was Unsustainable and Unprofitable, further Holden was preventing the growth of US Brands around the Pacific rim, Indian Ocean and such, so they shut down GMH so GM's American brands could take over. the closure of GMH was going to force up Parts Manufacturing costs so Ford followed, Toyota held on as long as they could but they had to go as well.
I rode my Motorbike across Australia and back, and passing the big Road Trains is scary. The roads are only single-lane, so all passing is done on the 'wrong' side of the road. Plus the roads are fairly narrow and soft-shouldered. The trucks are not just long (and so take time to overtake), but are so big they produce massive air currents and eddies, which buffets a motorbike wildly. Good times. Oh, and around the outback mining towns like Kalgoorlie, there are road trains with four(!) trailers that only drive between the mines and the railway freight stations. Those things are crazy as they "worm" down the road, sometimes across both lanes!
Crazy! Only ever seen a similarly lengthy roadtrain like that down the road past coober pedy while 4x4 touring a couple years ago, the sheer intimidating massiveness of those things is hard to put into words hey
I bet that was a thrill on two wheels! I am a retired USA trucker, and yet have enjoyed biking my whole life. I have always said, "Share the road". But less people go out of their way to be considerate to another driver. So sad!
This is one of the many reasons why I have been calling for an Australian Truck Simulator, very good video mate. Fun fact: my Grandfather’s brother used to run a trucking business out of Margaret river back in the 70’s-90’s period and he ran 5 K100’s from Kenworth. But he had to sell up in the mid 90’s as his age was catching up to him. His final truck, a K100C No.1 painted in a black livery with Red-Orange-Yellow arrows on it’s side was sold to My grandfather and was named “The uncle Ken” in his honour. It still sees the road to this day, and as far as I’m aware, the only one from Uncle Ken’s trucking fleet still running in its original livery
Australian truck Sim might have a settlement problem though, with an unusual solution that may elevate the late game. You have a lot of empty space for vast mines, cattle runs and forestry areas. They need to be developed in order to create logistic demand. If the player can invest in the industry, and then have drivers servicing logistical supply chains, you get more sensible routes (instead of everyone running Turkey/Scotland or Finland/Portugal routes), and you make money have meaning beyond the phase of $100K a week. All this isn't easy, but it would be amazing if it were possible.
I'd want to see Truck Simulator New Zealand actually. Not only would you still get the vast selection of trucks just like in Australia, but you'd also get a vast selection of terrain as well!
Fun fact about outback roads! When you're near towns they're two lanes, when you're not near towns they become one lane with a wide shoulder on either side. So every now and again you'll have a road train coming at you at 100k's, they definitely have right of way. If you think that's scary, wait until you see the words "wide load" coming at you at 100k's. You get off the road AND off the shoulder and hope it won't get you.
@@redhammer9910 ahahaha what a bastard! Glad you survived your ordeal. I think the scariest one we came across was one carrying a massive bulldozer from the mines. The blade on the bulldozer stuck out from either side of the trailer and all you saw was a shiny steel blade fly past the window :S
Rural NSW here (Riverina exact), and it's not uncommon seeing B-Doubs hauling grains or a truck running pair of livestock trailers or fuel tankers, or a flatbed hauling a tractor from a farm with the "Wide Load" warning, mixed with hatches, sedans, utes, 4-ton rigids and SUV's along the A20/Sturt Highway or on the winding 2-lane blacktop between towns. Sometimes even encounter roadwork teams prepping for jobs to start, during job, or after a job is done.
I lived in Alice Springs for 40 years. Triples are everywhere there. Then they added the extra 1/2 trailer to the triple. They drive through town as its the only way from Darwin to Adelaide. I learnt as a young kid to respect trucks.
Yep. Did you ever drive on them when there was no speed limit? It was fucking horrifying. They would be flying (normal trucks back then), and you’d be flying in the opposite direction. Good adrenaline rush though. That was when I first learnt to drive (speed limits added shortly afterwards). We had a ford that would do a little over 120mph (tuned engine from my brother who was training to be a mechanic). It was great driving that absolute unit at that speed
Australia needs to ban overall length and only focus on trailer length. Too many companies cutting driver space and comfort for the sake of 2-4 extra pallets on a trailer
Fun fact: The vast majority of Australians have never seen a roadtrain in real life, because most of them live within a 100 kms of the ocean on the east coast. Australia is roughly the same size as mainland USA. Edit: Judging by the comments, a lot of Australians don’t know the difference between a roadtrain and a B-Double. A B-Double is NOT a roadtrain! Not surprising considering Australia is one of the most urbanised nations on earth, and as I said, the vast majority live within a 100 kms of the coast in the south-eastern part of the country.
One funny thing about road trains is that with each trailer any variance in the direction of travel is amplified. This means that with any slight wiggle from the prime mover, the first trailer will be pretty quiet, but the last one looks like it's dancing. It's a strange thing to overtake!
@@AnarchistMetalhead The whip comes from the chassis flex in the prime mover mostly. Or cheap, poorly built trailer/dolly. Longer and stiffer prime mover chassis as well as longer drawbars on the dolly help immensely.
If they make an Aussie truck simulator i hope they encourage via gameplay the drivers to slow down a little and indicate when it's safe to overtake whenever there's vehicles behind them as that's what the legends in the cabs do all the time. They know they got a big rig and they know people get a little nervous overtaking so they do everything they can to make it easier.
@@lakesnake2005 I hear a similar saying, a Big Truck changes gears, a Large Car changes lanes! Hmm does an 800 horse Cat, 18 speed and 3.36 gears on tall rubber mean my fld 120 is a large car? Lol
The big fleets are almost exclusively euro brands these days, cab style doesn't necessarily factor into the corporate beancounter decision at all, they are focused on fuel efficiency, green points and safety features on their spreadsheet. Owner operators and small fleets tend to like an American truck and add extra chrome and pinstripe paintwork.
The K200 clawed back a lot of market share once it was shown to be competitive alongside the European trucks for efficiency. I know a couple of companies that cancelled Volvo orders in favour of them.
As an Australian with a Dad who is a truck driver… this was a surprising find in my recommendations. Although I am not much of a gear head I appreciate and understand the importance of truckies in regards to logistics. I live in Tasmania so it’s semi-rural and a smaller place meaning that my dad can get home by the end of the day which is a unique part of the circumstances in Tassie, but like… he wakes up at 3 am, I don’t envy that at least. 😅 I find it amusing how my parents work stories contrast with my mum’s role where she needs to bullshit around toxic coworkers… while my dad and his coworkers don’t take shit and swear like troopers. I can’t help but grin when my dad uses all the profanity in the book to describe a bad driver slowing down massively after overtaking him, or some operator or manager doing certain things. Another great thing is when ever something gets written off, sometimes they give it to my dad. About a month ago he got given three boxes full of various AAA and AA batteries. As someone who’s hobby is video games… very appreciated ngl. I won’t have to buy batteries for years. Lol
The Aussies have a very practical way of doing everything, if it works, they use it. If it doesn't work, they're not interested. Bullshit's not tolerated, unless it's amusing bullshit, then they're all for it!
Australia has also had much looser emission regulations than Europe or the US especially in the outback euro 2 was good enough untill 2006 you could buy a brand new mechanically injected diesel with no EGR in 2006 and pre 1995 there were absolutely ZERO diesel emissions standards. Unfortunately you often see many newer, cleaner more efficient trucks in the Outback and old smelly trucks in around cities doing port to distribution center runs but you can still see plenty of REALLY old 2 stroke road trains driven by owner operators. As those old motors are easy to legally mod and and easy to fix when you're half way between Dingo piss creek and bum fuck nowhere with the nearest town being 1000 kilometers away.
Mate, you're not wrong. I was talking to a bloke that had an injector fail outside Ceduna. Trucks computer said "no". He said a mechanic had to come from Melbourne to fix the thing! For those outside Oz thats about 1500kms (950 miles). With an old truck, he could keep going on 7!
@@SpatialGuy77 It would not be impossible that it was a BS story. This was a few years ago, and computer controlled diesels weren't exactly thick on the ground. Yes, there are diesel mechanics everywhere (on every farm, for one) but it's a bit different in a modern engine than putting a new injector in a mechanically injected diesel. Without the right software (sometimes dealer only), you've got Buckleys.
1:22 - in russian, colloquial name of bow bars for vehicles is "кенгурятник" ("kengur'atnik", as a reference to the word "кенгуру", that means "kangaroo"). Finally i understand, why it was called like that...) They was quite popular over here in 90-00's
In Australia, we call them kangaroo bars, or roo bars. Kangaroos are really stupid and have no understanding of how roads work. I've been on remote highways where there is a dead kangaroo at least every 100 meters, for many, many kilometers.
@@tbone2646 Might be regional.... They're bullbars here in northern NSW. To me, a roo bar is the softer, lighter type often used on family size sedans, 8 seater vans and some smaller SUVs.
That's a really cool video. Here in Brazil we also have our own road trains, we call it "Rodotrem", that is the abbreviation of "rodovia" (highway) and "trem" (train). Almost all goods are transported by trucks, except for iron ore and the soy produced in the Midwest, so trucks are really important for us and truckers have a lot of respect from the people (but they still earn such a small portion of what they represent. The most commons trucks for road trains here are Scania, Mercedez and Volvo, and the interiors and the engines are praticaly the same. Some rodotrens can carry up to 91 tons, and it's impossible to not see them in rural areas such the São Paulo Interior. In 2018 occured a strike by the truckers and the internal economy almost collapsed, some things were 5 times the prices the used to cost 2 weeks ago, you can search it by typing "2018 truck drivers strike".
This just popped up on my recomends, and now I'm fascinated that australia actually has a different type of truck to specific jobs, while in Brazil every truck it's the semi-truck cabin thing
@@MrCrazypb That's cool. Here in Germany you simply it simply doesn't make sense to operate a bonneted Truck because Europe overall simply lacks the space.The only companies operating these kind of Trucks merely use them as an eyecatcher.
@@fidel_manuwa1827 that makes sense considering most truck routes are fairly short in Europe compared to Brazil or Australia. The longer routes and lack of infrastructure require us to use both types depending on the job. We even have Road Trains here but they are mostly seen in highly agricultural areas where it is more economical to overload a single truck between short routes (say from harvest to mills)
01:43 the truck on the right is from a firm called Intake transport, they're literally based 10minutes away from me! - I used to load steel trailers (what he's got on the back) at the docks that they would sometimes run loads out of! Small world!
Watching this at 11 PM after cramming for a test. I have little to no interest in trucks, but I’d be dammed if I didn’t say this video is educational, interesting and really well edited! Im saving this channel and looking through more of your vids later!!
@@WillBilly. Australian fleet tech here, we have a mixed fleet of k200s, k909s, Volvo, Daimler etc All our kenworths are X15 with 18 speed ultra shift road ranger setups. As much as older guys complain, we have never had any internal transmission faults, only clutches. These things are great for scooting around with the shorter wheel base, however the ride quality compared to the euro cabs is shite, the drivers seat is air ride and that's about it, the cab just sits on big round cased bushes. Main advantage to the k200s are shorter wheel base and cost, they are allegedly* significantly cheaper than buying a comparable performance euro cab over. Vs the K909s with longer wheel base, air ride cab etc, for pulling long distance trains, drivers prefer either the 909s or the euro trucks. Hence we are apparently cutting back on the k200s and acquiring some more k909s and Volvo's I think.
@@jordanbrolsma2724 I find it odd why American truck manufacturers all use the same blueprints for trucks in general, and they barely change from generation to generation. Cabovers don't have air suspension for the cab itself, that's why the ride quality is absolute shit. And they're not ergonomical whatsoever cuz they put the steps behind the front wheel. It doesn't improve handling and it's a hazard for the driver to make it that way since the risk for slipping and falling is greatly increased.
@@cruize55 what? why would I?! pff, no?... ..ugh.. fuck it, I'm breaking radio silence COMMAND THEY ARE ONTO US, THE HUMANS FIGURED OUT THE INFILTRATION, GET ME OUTTA HERE
We have short road trains in the US, occasionally you see them on the interstate. They don't usually pull more than two full sized trailers, but very rarely you may see three. It used to be more common, but with our nearly 140,000 miles of freight rail and the extreme reliability of diesel-electric locomotives, we have no need for the longer road trains like you may see in the Outback.
Another fun fact - In Australia length is always the limiting factor on different routes. In aus length is measured from the from of the Bullbar to the back of the trailer. Sometimes having a bonneted truck can put you over length. That's why the Cabover Kenworths are so popular
I remember in 1991 seeing a huge green and yellow Tipple Framed Superliner. She had a 800 HP V8, and was at a dealership in NJ waiting got the ship to take her down under to work as a Road Train for a mining operation there. Quite the Work Unit!
Cab overs are definitely taking over in Australia. 20+ years ago there would have been more conventional styled trucks, now there’s more cab overs getting around. It’s pretty normal to see a b-double with a cab over. Even road trains are going cab over. The Asian trucks are usually only ridged trucks or maybe a smaller single trailer. You don’t see many Asian trucks hauling huge trailers.
Cabovers offer superior driver comfort, visability, manovability and versatility. Look at Volvo Australia's XXL cab. Designed, tested and manufactured in Australia for our unique extreme conditions. 👍👍🇭🇲
@@HrHaakon I'm waiting to see who will release the first 1000hp engine in a commercial vehicle. Both Volvo and Scania produce 2000hp + industrial engines but these monsters are not a commercially viable option due to size.👍👍🇭🇲
Asian trucks focus more on efficiency and cost effectiveness. The largest Australian Isuzu engine is only 540hp out of a 15.7L 6 cylinder 6WG1. They often run at max GVM, which is 54 tonnes for the larger models. They aren't made to drive up and down mountain ranges fully loaded or do cross country trips, they were made by a small island nation for inter-city commerce. Asian trucks dominate the market of small to medium trucks, as there are models that can be driven on a car licence, and they're cheap and efficient for light and medium rigid trucks. They're also like Lego, in that they are fully customisable from cab, engine, gearbox, driveline, axles, body type and GVM. american and European trucks are only any good for B-doubles or bigger.
@@CantBeFucked69420 Not necessarily accurate. Take note of the increasing numbers of Volvo, Scania and MAN vehicles in heavy rigid configurations that have infinite modification options. Volvo are growing the light rigid market with UD.👍👍🇭🇲
Fairly comprehensive explanation. The only thing I’d really differ on is the forward crash bars. Many would call them “Roo bars”. Especially in Australia, as the kangaroo is fairly common in the Outback.
Used to drive a 4900 Western Star as cattle train, water cart and machinery float, going through the bush always offered something different and was never dull
As an Australian who lives in the central of Queensland I game agree that conventional trucks are seen a lot here and are used pretty frequently in the central part of australia
this channel has sparked my interest in trucking for some reason. for the past week ive been on wiki pages for different trucks and trucking cultrues, never thought it would come to this.
@@Sixtixx Depends on what you like. If you like American trucking, then get American Truck Simulator. But if u like European trucking which I do, they get the Europe Truck Simulator. It is best with a wheel if U have one
If you're interested in the industry you can get yourself in almost any part of it right now from how understaffed it is, be it driver, dispatcher, mechanic, salesman at the dealership, gate guard at the drop yard, there's a lot of desk jobs even, for every driver and mechanic out there there's usually 1 person behind a desk helping them out
🤣🤣🤣😂 I did it from 1991 to 2018. Drove my first truck in the US Army and have driven in 3 countries. If you count my Army experience I have over 30 years trucking. After having a heart attack, bypass surgery, being put on insulin after surgery the Government I can't drive anymore. Since being retired 2022 has been my best year.
not really it is going downhill due to new regulations and companies pushing drivers to their boundaries and crap pay. i am an australian and a truckie. we have lots of imported drivers( immigrant ) that can only go forward and dont know how to reverse a semi.
@@biteme0973 We are seeing that here in the States also. And they are getting a CDL without knowledge of the equipment and the rules. Some even cannot speak or read English. Unfortunately many newer drivers do not possess backing or maneuvering skills when they start. All of this is making it interesting here. Also made it easy for me to retire when I hit my seventieth birthday. It is getting crazier on our roads all the time here.
@@ronfullerton3162 sounds like I'm on for a treat. Learning and training to get my CDL currently through a company and a school. Were learning loads about backing and they're making us practice it every day for hours.
I remember traveling across Australia a couple of times as a 9-11 year old. From Perth TO Sydney, Perth TO Melbourne. Was great staying at different truck stops and seeing the small towns and some beautiful natural sights (Mountains, Australian Bite etc). Was all done in a Mack truck, once as what you'd say is a road train. Good vid mate, just brought back some memories from 20+ years ago.
I absolutely loved this video! The editing and pacing are great, and you have a nice, soothing narrator voice. I like that trucking in Australia is hybrid of American and European ways of doing things. Bless the drivers who drive those big rigs to the outbacks.
I just drove from North Queensland to Victoria via the Barcaldine-Bourke-Echuca way. I saw a lot of these. They are easy to overtake because it is so flat and the roads are straight as well as being deserted.
The big issue we have is that we abandoned diversification of other modes of transport in favour of road trains, leaving them as the sole monopoly on transport, which a couple years ago nearly brought the country to crisis as a result when drivers started getting sick en masse. Not advocating for total removal but having a couple of options in transit is far smarter than going all in on one option that is increasingly getting more and more expensive to operate as time goes on. My Dad’s been a Truckie my entire life and the industry seems to constantly be in a state of crisis.
I saw only a dozen australian cabovers in the US, and they are exclusively owned by very rich drivers who literally have the job just for fun, no clue how they got them into the US
I seen a newer cab over in Ohio/WV once, and I was so confused. But I was amazed by the cab over. It took me a while to assume that it was imported from Australia.
I believe what folks are seeing on US roads are the Freightliner Argosy. The last cabover Freightliner built in the US for over-the-road use. Still available new as a “Glider Kit” which is about an 80% complete truck.
It's very rare to see a euro trucks but I've seen 2 Scanias and a few Man trucks in the USA and there's a Foden that drives regularly on i49 in Louisiana
Here in Aus both my parents are truckies. Mum drives a mack with a bonnet and dad drives a Mercedes cabin over. Its always funny to see my 5' tall mum clamber down the side of her mack.
Lady drivers are getting more common here in the States also. Some are very good drivers! Plus many of them look better to me than their male counterparts.
Yeah exactly Like the episode of the Simpson's Marge goes to a rural pub. Like full ocker gets asked Well do ya wanna beer (Its a pub of course It's a drink or sort of get f%$$d go to a milk bar if you want a soft drink) Marge is like coffee He's like (probably an American brand of beer) Bee- beer
Very disappointed that the old International ACCO cabover didn't get a guernsey in this video! Australian built trucks from 1949 all the way through to the 2000s, they were a mainstay of trucking in this country - and are still common on the road. I've just bought an ACCO 2250D 6x4 running an International DT466 engine with a 10 meter tray to haul my earthmoving equipment.
Scania and Volvo did have bonetted models in Australia in the 80s. American actor Stacey Keach was driving a very modern Mercedes Benz V-series semi trailer through the Nullabor in 1981's Road Games.
As an American trucker, we have both cab overs and bonneted trucks here in the USA. You see bonneted trucks makin fling Hal’s of 6,000 miles across great expanses of wilderness, and cab overs doing lots of deliveries in the cities. Most of America is rural with great distances in between cities, so bonneted trucks are more common
Just discovered & binged your great videos yesterday. Was pleasantly surprised to see you had just posted a video about my own country 🇦🇺. Love your stuff!
As an Aussie I was a little shocked to find out over the last few years how narrow some overseas markets are in the truck choices available. Always taken our truck choices for granted.
I am a Commercial Truck & Transport Technician, so I may be able to provide some insight. Cab over trucks are very difficult to service, requiring the cab to be lifted by a built in jack on the side of the tractor (truck). A fairly simple repair on a conventional tractor (Cascadia, 57X or 49X, International) such as a radiator replacement, serpentine belt, or front crank re-seal become exponentially tougher on a cab over. Limited space for an overhead crane and tech means more parts have to be disassembled, moreover, cab-overs can be dangerous (and often require secondary props to prevent a cab falling). The benefits of a cab-over is strictly for the operator, with better turning radius and visibility as you stated. A company must seriously consider this fact, and come to a harmonious solution for their fleet. In North America, day cabs have taken over the industry -although they lack amenities for long haul routes. Over all, I tend to prefer conventional tractors and so do most drivers due to the space.
Sure Australia is a paradise for truck lovers like me, so much variety of brands and configurations. Nice to see American looking trucks pulling "European looking trailers" and vice versa. The only problem of course is the harsh environment.
*"Nice to see American looking trucks pulling "European looking trailers" and vice versa"* Well, trailers in Australia has different requirements. Just like Europe, all trailers in Australia require amber turn signals and reverse lights. Most American trailer come with red turn signals and no reverse lights at all.
2:32 - "Jumping over to the coast" "proceeds to display a highlighted area that includes sections AT LEAST 400km from any ocean"... did you forget how big Australia was, m8? O.o
Spent a few days on deployment in Mungindi and stayed at a hotel that once held the Guinness book of world records record for longest land train. From the pictures it looked like it went on for a kilometer!
Hgv mechanic here, I'd say as far as comfort goes the cab over is absolutely the most comfortable to drive, air suspension with the cab then also airsprung with an airsprung seat inside that, with adjustable dampers usually, are a beautifully smooth drive, there's three layers of air suspension between you and the road and they're sublime. Largely overkill really in most places but in the outback I can imagine they'd save you some spinal compression here and there. That's to drive though, a conventional truck, what I'd call a cab back style (because the cab is backward of the engine) are often far more comfortable to live in because of the extra space, the crazy kitchen setups and living spaces you see in those things are insane. Cab back to live in but a cab over to drive is for sure my preference
Part of what makes cab-overs so popular here is our laws, trucks have a maximum length in cities measured from the front of the prime mover to the back of the trailer so a cab-over lets you pull a longer trailer with more cargo.
So the same reason why they were so common here in the states until it was deregulated. You still see them, but if it's a cabover combination vehicle, it was most likely made in the 70's or early 80's.
I absolutely agree with freedom of choice. As a driver and mechanic I find Cab overs are the same or more comfortable, the quality of the seat is the biggest factor, and Cab overs are way better to work on.
did everyone miss this in the description haha "Why does everything in Australian society end in -ie or -o. Does it have anything to do with Australia's history as a penal colony for the criminal class? I'm just asking questions. I say this because my uncle owns a trucking business down under and also he's a homosexual."
They're much easier to live in that's for sure. I spend a month or more in my truck at a time and it even gets a little small at times, couldn't imagine living in a cabover long term. Yikes
I don't think the engine size question/power is really why cab overs aren't used for road trains, since the most powerful Euro truck has nearly 200hp over the most powerful US truck. Same for the comfort, cabovers tend to be more comfortable and luxurious than conventional bonneted ones. What you said about fires and ease of repair is very true though, I am sure that's why more old-school trucks are preferred there.
Yeah the Mack's are essentially like the life blood and the Euros are like the fancy jewellery on the bloke when he needs to looks good for the local .. I guess Or maybe I'm comparing trucks to the wrong apples
Conventional cabs have air ride mounts too, plus a longer wheelbase to smooth out the feel of bumpy roads. A cabover is really only a better choice if you need the extra maneuverability.
I'm an Aussie and my mum goes mental for trucks, like proper excited, I think it's cause she got to drive one outback as a kid (monitored of course) she likes the "road trains" though before this I've never fucking heard that, we genuinely just call them "big fuck of truck"s
Bolivia and I think many south American countries also "give" you the "freedom" to choose which truck style you prefer. Cab over or with a bonnet. Also brands vary, from UD, to Scania, to freightliner, to Volvo (European, American and Brazilian) to even some Chinese brands. You can purchase whichever style you prefer and use it.
Seems odd to hear someone mention Peterbilt for brands within Australia rather than Freightliner and or Western Star. Peterbilts do exist here but aren't sold here and are far far less common. Outside of Kenworth, Western Star and Freightliner are the American brands I see the most, with models such as the Argosy and 4800/4900 being the most common models for Freightliner and Western Star.
The one thing I do hear from truckies is that they won’t even do interstate driving unless they are in a Standard Cab Style Truck for the reason that if involved in a Headon Collision it is safer than a Cabover Style
It's so weird to see an industry I'm heavily involved with talked about. Many great companies, and some not so great, shown in these pictures. It's nice to see the interest is there.
It seems pretty obvious to me which style is better. Short city haulers are better suited with cab-overs due to FOV, turning, and brake radius. Long distance haulers are better suited with "bonneted" cabs due to larger cab room and ease of engine access. If your on a several day trip, your going to want a cab you can stretch your legs in at the end of the day, rest, watch TV, etc. If your truck breaks down, your going to want to be able to refuge in it _and_ be able to check the engine, especially in the scorching sun. It can be the difference between getting towed, or just being sent a maintenance truck to repair something. Especially if you dont need to keep getting out and tipping the cab to inspect it. If your in the city, thats all kind of pointless, since most hauls wont be more than 8 hours. And the benefits of a bonneted truck arent that helpful in the denser cities and are overengineered for the city needs.
1:47 I am not so sure about that. The most powerful trucks in production at the moment are both cabovers, with the Scania 770S (770hp) and the Volvo FH16 (750hp)
You are correct. Here in New Zealand the most powerful long nose truck is a Mack MP10 at 685hp which of course is just a Volvo engine (D16) Cummins do a 615hp and Detroit a 560hp.
This just unclogged something in my brain. For the longest time I assumed Iveco was a japanese manufacturer getting them mixed up with Isuzu, when I do know by hearth that Isuzu is a different brand. Good to know that the Italians actually have a real heavy goods vehicle manufacturer rather then just Fiat being thier peak of utility vehicles.
Iveco occupies the former International truck manufacturing plant in Dandenong, Melbourne. I used to deliver Road Ranger gearboxes and clutches to there.
Iveco Trakker is very popular and effective as off-road truck for quarries and construction sites in Italy, mewnwhile Iveco S-way/Stralis for long haul is not much used compared to volvo or Scania
@@davidbest7859 LOL Drivers have always kidded about truck names. The first one I heard was aimed at the American brand GMC that use to make heavy duty trucks. I was told it stood for "General Mess of Crap"! The International Trucks were referred to as "Binders" while they were still a part of the International Harvester ag-equipment company. That was because the foundation of the company was from the McCormick binder, the predecessor of the combine. Drove both makes, and they were solid trucks. But still called them the same as every other driver did back then.
The point of a cabover being unable to fit a large engine is wrong. The fact is that the trucks with the biggest and strongest engines built today are almost exclusively cabovers. Scania has a 770 hp, Volvo a 750 hp and MAN a 640 hp just to state a few. Volvo also has a presence in the conventional market, but bring at most 500 hp like their competing conventional truck manufacturers.
Fun fact about trucking, at least in SA/WA: The largest of our birds of prey, the Wedge Tailed-Eagle, has entirely become a scavenger as a result of roadkills on the Nullarbor highway between Victoria and Western Australia. Other parts of the country they actively take kills. Along that road, they never need to.
Bloody menace, too. If you go round a bend at 110 and there's a wedgie in the middle of the road stuffing its face, they can't get out of the way in time. The generally make it up to about windshield height before impact.
So… Everybody just assumes these huge American/Australian trucks will just monster the European cabovers, when in fact no bonneted truck has ever been sold stock with much over 600hp - compared to Volvo which has been selling trucks with 750hp for over 10 years…
@@archygrey9093 So no trucks ever haul oversize loads..? Did you even watch this video lol.. If you’ve ever tried hauling 50.000kg up a hill you will appreciate why a lot of truckers are swearing by the FH16 750 and now the Scania R770.
I came here to learn why Australia has some cool ass trucks...and I learned nothing of importance, nothing joyful...and am now somehow irritated. I guess it worked.
I was weirdly having a similar conversation with a French sommelier, he was saying he prefers wineries here because we happily drink wines from all over the world. In places like France and Italy you only drink your country's wines
Even as an Australian I didn’t know that our trucks were so good, and that other countries don’t have as many trucks or things like ours. This was very interesting to watch
American impression of a COE trucks are stuck in the 80's while the world have moved on. All they normally seen on the road are conventionals and any cab over trucks are either old and outdated or chromed out show truck.
Right many manufacturers even offer electronically activated hydraulics for the cab tilting so all you have to do is press a button if it's too much work to pump the hydraulics manually. Can't get much easier than that
Lol, you think Cabovers in the US don't have hydraulic lift? A standard hood is still quicker and easier to get up. Once a cabover is up they do have an access advantage for doing repairs, you also have to deal with any of your belongings flying all over the place when you lift the cab, not a huge deal but can be quite annoying.
I am dutch, and I only have seen an american or australian truck ones. we only have trucks with engines bellow you. if we see a truck with the engine in front of you it is really cool. also the blind spot of the 'dutch' trucks is way bigger. but with new mirror's you can't place on australian trucks the blind spot is less. I think it is opinion indeed. both has its pro's and cons
Yup Like the pull down menu at the RTA Or marine roads... whatever they call it now (bloody he'll why change) I drive truck Menu pulls down Faaaark this is worse than pulling the pants down an ostrich So to speak (On account of how many ruffles the poor bird has)
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You know Charles, I was up late tossing and turning last night thinking the same thing and let me just be the first to say that thank GOD somebody put those horrific thoughts I was having into words.
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A Bloke called John Parnell was the whole reason that triple roadtrains exist in Australia. He worked with the department of transport and it actually worked. Then he used triple road trains to cart fuel to remote NT, SA and QLD with his business Parnell Transport. For those efforts he was inducted to Australian Transport Hall of Fame. And hes my Grand Dad.
I've seen quite a few four dog trains and once near Winton I saw two by five doggers, one behind the other. Never seen one since but I believe they are common round mining sites.
Actually it is widely recognised that Kurt Johansson who first pioneered road trains in the Northern Territory around Alice Springs. His truck "Big Bertha" is in the Road Transport Hall of Fame in Alice Spring and Noel Buntine iis another Pioneer who revolutionised the Road Train in the 1960's making it what it is today. My Father worked for Mr Buntine and they were mates and he treated us like family as he treated all his drivers.
"In 1983, with the Australian Road Research Board, Melbourne, considerable research work was undertaken with Parnell equipment to provide information on which the requirements of operation of triple roadtrains were developed. With Dr. Peter Sweatman and others from ARRB assisting, the first triple roadtrain running from Pt. Augusta to the SA/NT border commenced operations under strict supervision." Quote taken from the Road Transport Hall of Fame.
Triple road trains were already in use in NT at the time and the . I remember my fist ride in a Tanami Cattle truck with my Uncle Bruce "Pissy" Pepperill about 1983 and Road Trains were every where. Sherwins, Buntines (later to become Road Trains Australia or RTA), Co-Ord where all running trains across the NT from Mt Isa Qld to Derby WA and Clan Contracting (Derby WA) and Gulf Transport (Jim Cooper is a legendary pioneer of the Road Train industry, he later bought RTA forming GulfRTA) from 60's and 70's.
In the 1979 the Federal and SA Government undertook to seal the Stuart highway completing it in 1987, just in time for the Bicentennial Celebrations'. Massive road building project required massive amounts of machines and fuel. And there wasn't just one camp. There were road work camps North of the SA/NT Border, The Alice to SA Border Section was being sealed at the same time.
Your Grand Dad would have nailed it with the contract to cart fuel to the road work crews!
How ever in the late 70's and early 80's there were several cases of Fuel Tankers catching fire or rolling over about 30km South of Alice Springs on the old dirt Stuart Highway. My Father caught one incident on his brand new Super 8 movie camera in the very early 80's or maybe '79 that was used in a court case in Alice Springs where a car cut of and dusted a Road Train carrying fuel causing it to crash and catch fire. The entire train burned. If your Grand Dad is still alive, ask him about that one. It might have been one of his trucks.
@@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell Ok thanks for the correction! I couldnt help myself from laughing someone being called pissy. I never thought someone could be called that. And yes John Parnell is still alive and I enjoy his company. Hes an idol to me and I'll ask him about it.
@@Hayden_TGM He was called Pissy because he was a big piss head. Always drunk, got sacked from Sherwin Transport a few times for being piss wrecked but Peter Sherwin would always re-employ him hahahaha. John Parnell was probably, just guessing, a huge contributor to how safe fuel tankers are today.
@@Hayden_TGM Tell him Richard Kay is also bright and Healthy in Darwin was talking with him just the other day! Spent many an hour chatting about outback trucking, I am an Indentured Tradesman Diesel mechanic. who did my Apprenticeship in the late 70s in Darwin, if he knew pissy he knows Richard Kay.
this was great and informative and now i want Australian truck simulator.
Someone’s been working on one for a while i think.
If that exists, you can pick American, European and Japanese trucks there.
yeah it’s called truck world australia or something
I wanna do that! I am Victorian.
I think there is a mod for that in ATS and ETS2
Ex Aussie truckie here. You've hit the points pretty well mate. I've driven both conventional and cab overs from the centre of Sydney to the remote centre of West Oz and I can say that while my personal preference is for conventional style I wouldn't be without a cab over while in a city. It makes things so much easier to be able to have that much smaller turning radius and the extra 2 to 3 MTRS we can pull forward. The only thing I will add is most of the guys running long haul and road trains would kill for some of the American setups that have things like a small kitchen or toilet/shower because there are a lot of lonely stretches with nowhere to stop and rest properly.
Must be the pits being 150km from the next place with a shower and shitter when you have only 30 mins wheel-time left, and the owner can't be arsed paying for AFM certification because 'BFM is just fine... and cheaper.'
American here! We were in a conventional truck and all we had was a mini fridge and a microwave. The problem with the shower/toilet setups is that they add weight and length- utterly impractical if you have to be anywhere near a city. I don’t know what your DOT equivalent is like but ours will absolutely slam you on weight. Funny thing is that we were never more than about 2 hours from a gas station (usually with showers) so that kind of a setup would be way more practical for a trip to Alice Springs or wherever than it would be anywhere in the US!
@@Axqu7227 they also add cost. Only trucks I've seen with that kind of setup were show-grade trucks. Not necessarily purely for show, but they had that kind of money poured into them.
I'm american trucker looking to drive in australia. comment if you can help me
I'm now imagining a road train where the "caboose" is a camper trailer. 😂
As a Western Australian, I had no clue that the rest of the world didn’t have the same variety in trucks as us. I knew we were special for our road trains but I assumed the rest of the trucking world would look fairly similar.
Probably because rural australia has literally nothing in it, while rural america and canada still have paved roads and communities every couple dozen kilometers/miles. That means people will complain, and police will pull you over. Road trains don't have many external factors to worry about
It is a bigger safety concern in America since almost all roads have a specific lane width. In Australia it seems you have hundreds of miles of open land with hardly any traffic and wider roads but over here in America there will always be some traffic and the risks involved in having a trailer train of that length means the whole train can shift many feet to the left or right due to bumps, wind, and unlevel roads. The longest trailer you can tow with a pickup truck (Ford F350 and the like) is 53 feet long. The longest trailer train you can have is a triple which maxes out at 105 feet long and they are exclusive to semi trucks. This is the highest maximum length I know of, there are almost certainly different laws on this depending on the state.
Had to research if it was possible to tow a 24 foot enclosed trailer while towing a camper behind that at one point. The laws have too much legalese talk to them but from what I understood it is also possible to tow multiple trailers behind a pickup as long as the towed items when attached to each other do not exceed 53 feet total.
I've seen small road trains in the US. Two small trailers instead of the typical long one. But we get cabovers and bonneteds. Not too many japanese semis though
In the USA it's mostly bonneted trucks. Cabovers are mostly a leftover and not being sold here at all to my understanding, while In my opinion being superior for many tasks
In England everything 18th metres long class as road train 😂🚂.
As an American trucker, I knew about the road trains but I had no idea how versatile the truck market is in Australia. Hats off to the road warriors down under!
My dream is to be a truck driver like my dad
He has been driving since he was 18. This year he will be 60 and still driving
@@alpharaptor7510 They are making those old trucks easier to live and work in all the time. Back when I was young in the 1950's, those poor old drivers looked like they were beat to death by the time they were sixty. I retired at seventy, and was in far better shape than those okd guys a generation before. The truck itself as well as available services have made the job far easier. It still remains a high stress and often difficult occupation.
And, until the liberal government killed it, we had a local car industry making Utes which were great for hauling without the unpleasant verticality of american trucks.
@@superchroma Actually it was GM recording Subsidiaries and Assistance Loans as Income then sending the cash to the US, they then said the market was Unsustainable and Unprofitable, further Holden was preventing the growth of US Brands around the Pacific rim, Indian Ocean and such, so they shut down GMH so GM's American brands could take over.
the closure of GMH was going to force up Parts Manufacturing costs so Ford followed, Toyota held on as long as they could but they had to go as well.
@@superchroma anime profile pic. Your opinion is invalid.
I rode my Motorbike across Australia and back, and passing the big Road Trains is scary. The roads are only single-lane, so all passing is done on the 'wrong' side of the road. Plus the roads are fairly narrow and soft-shouldered. The trucks are not just long (and so take time to overtake), but are so big they produce massive air currents and eddies, which buffets a motorbike wildly. Good times.
Oh, and around the outback mining towns like Kalgoorlie, there are road trains with four(!) trailers that only drive between the mines and the railway freight stations. Those things are crazy as they "worm" down the road, sometimes across both lanes!
Crazy!
Only ever seen a similarly lengthy roadtrain like that down the road past coober pedy while 4x4 touring a couple years ago, the sheer intimidating massiveness of those things is hard to put into words hey
I live in kal I see quads daly
I bet that was a thrill on two wheels! I am a retired USA trucker, and yet have enjoyed biking my whole life. I have always said, "Share the road". But less people go out of their way to be considerate to another driver. So sad!
Sounds like every road in the UK near enough
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This is one of the many reasons why I have been calling for an Australian Truck Simulator, very good video mate.
Fun fact: my Grandfather’s brother used to run a trucking business out of Margaret river back in the 70’s-90’s period and he ran 5 K100’s from Kenworth. But he had to sell up in the mid 90’s as his age was catching up to him. His final truck, a K100C No.1 painted in a black livery with Red-Orange-Yellow arrows on it’s side was sold to My grandfather and was named “The uncle Ken” in his honour. It still sees the road to this day, and as far as I’m aware, the only one from Uncle Ken’s trucking fleet still running in its original livery
Australian truck Sim might have a settlement problem though, with an unusual solution that may elevate the late game.
You have a lot of empty space for vast mines, cattle runs and forestry areas. They need to be developed in order to create logistic demand.
If the player can invest in the industry, and then have drivers servicing logistical supply chains, you get more sensible routes (instead of everyone running Turkey/Scotland or Finland/Portugal routes), and you make money have meaning beyond the phase of $100K a week.
All this isn't easy, but it would be amazing if it were possible.
Truck world Australia is upcoming, popped up randomly for me on steam the other day
I'd want to see Truck Simulator New Zealand actually. Not only would you still get the vast selection of trucks just like in Australia, but you'd also get a vast selection of terrain as well!
Australian Truck Simulator would be a lot of sand, mostly.
@@dallasfrost1996 I never knew I wanted this but now I do
Fun fact about outback roads! When you're near towns they're two lanes, when you're not near towns they become one lane with a wide shoulder on either side. So every now and again you'll have a road train coming at you at 100k's, they definitely have right of way. If you think that's scary, wait until you see the words "wide load" coming at you at 100k's. You get off the road AND off the shoulder and hope it won't get you.
@@redhammer9910 ahahaha what a bastard! Glad you survived your ordeal. I think the scariest one we came across was one carrying a massive bulldozer from the mines. The blade on the bulldozer stuck out from either side of the trailer and all you saw was a shiny steel blade fly past the window :S
Rural NSW here (Riverina exact), and it's not uncommon seeing B-Doubs hauling grains or a truck running pair of livestock trailers or fuel tankers, or a flatbed hauling a tractor from a farm with the "Wide Load" warning, mixed with hatches, sedans, utes, 4-ton rigids and SUV's along the A20/Sturt Highway or on the winding 2-lane blacktop between towns. Sometimes even encounter roadwork teams prepping for jobs to start, during job, or after a job is done.
I lived in Alice Springs for 40 years. Triples are everywhere there. Then they added the extra 1/2 trailer to the triple. They drive through town as its the only way from Darwin to Adelaide. I learnt as a young kid to respect trucks.
I lived in the western suburbs seen plenty of wide loads coming me going well over a 100k's
Yep. Did you ever drive on them when there was no speed limit? It was fucking horrifying. They would be flying (normal trucks back then), and you’d be flying in the opposite direction. Good adrenaline rush though. That was when I first learnt to drive (speed limits added shortly afterwards). We had a ford that would do a little over 120mph (tuned engine from my brother who was training to be a mechanic). It was great driving that absolute unit at that speed
Australia needs to ban overall length and only focus on trailer length. Too many companies cutting driver space and comfort for the sake of 2-4 extra pallets on a trailer
same with europe i guess then
Hey! 2-4 extra pallets is 10 extra dollars per load, how as a capitalist am I to feed my family for the sake of your comfort??
@@nakoda1610 no. Europe is fine. We don’t have this problem.
@@digiornopizzadelivery8062 yeah but it’s incredibly dangerous
@@Corrupted_FakeFaces yea. yea we do have this problem
Fun fact: The vast majority of Australians have never seen a roadtrain in real life, because most of them live within a 100 kms of the ocean on the east coast. Australia is roughly the same size as mainland USA.
Edit: Judging by the comments, a lot of Australians don’t know the difference between a roadtrain and a B-Double. A B-Double is NOT a roadtrain! Not surprising considering Australia is one of the most urbanised nations on earth, and as I said, the vast majority live within a 100 kms of the coast in the south-eastern part of the country.
double road trains in Melbourne metro ,ceva b triple used to run Geelong Broadmeadows daily .
That will change. We now have road trains in Victoria
@@JohnCacic Are doubles not classed as 'long vehicle'? I always thought road trains were 3 or more carriages.
@@htejjke2228 b doubles are not road trains.
@@rawnature8148 But A-doubles are.
One funny thing about road trains is that with each trailer any variance in the direction of travel is amplified. This means that with any slight wiggle from the prime mover, the first trailer will be pretty quiet, but the last one looks like it's dancing. It's a strange thing to overtake!
Worse with a cab over.
Can get pretty interesting to drive too, especially when you pass another road train and your trailers are empty!
Saw that 1st hand on the Stewart Hwy north of Alice Springs following a triple trailer. 3rd only was all over the place .the 2nd was dead straight
so in theory you"d want more rolling resistance on the wheels of the further back trailers, so they stay straight under tension?
@@AnarchistMetalhead The whip comes from the chassis flex in the prime mover mostly. Or cheap, poorly built trailer/dolly. Longer and stiffer prime mover chassis as well as longer drawbars on the dolly help immensely.
If they make an Aussie truck simulator i hope they encourage via gameplay the drivers to slow down a little and indicate when it's safe to overtake whenever there's vehicles behind them as that's what the legends in the cabs do all the time. They know they got a big rig and they know people get a little nervous overtaking so they do everything they can to make it easier.
this video feels longer than it is, in a good way. incredibly information dense.
Right on
It felt like a 15 minute video wtf
i think our perception is getting warped from tiktok and short speed clip forms of information blasting our brains have gotten use to. God help us.
If he knew his stuff and showed Aussie trucks it would have been better! FFS 🤦🏻♂️
Here I am wanting to see more trucks and lorries and thinking the video is way too short
Aussies: bonneted truck. Americans: Large Car.
Hats off to those road trains though, that's crazy stuff.
A Big Truck goes as fast as it can....a Large Car goes just as fast as it wants to.
So slower…
bro semi trucks to americans are medium-sized cars
@@lakesnake2005 I hear a similar saying, a Big Truck changes gears, a Large Car changes lanes!
Hmm does an 800 horse Cat, 18 speed and 3.36 gears on tall rubber mean my fld 120 is a large car? Lol
@@rickcorey5908 are those 18 gears in multiple groups, or just one stick?
The big fleets are almost exclusively euro brands these days, cab style doesn't necessarily factor into the corporate beancounter decision at all, they are focused on fuel efficiency, green points and safety features on their spreadsheet.
Owner operators and small fleets tend to like an American truck and add extra chrome and pinstripe paintwork.
The American style trucks are always better suited to long haul. Plus conventional trucks are sexy. As far a a truck can be anyway
American trucks have better fuel efficiency in general due to their better aerodynamics.
The K200 clawed back a lot of market share once it was shown to be competitive alongside the European trucks for efficiency. I know a couple of companies that cancelled Volvo orders in favour of them.
@@Anon.G More bull 💩! Don’t comment if you’re not 100% sure. Fool.
Not sure what you are saying Joel, American trucks are more fuel efficient
As an Australian with a Dad who is a truck driver… this was a surprising find in my recommendations. Although I am not much of a gear head I appreciate and understand the importance of truckies in regards to logistics. I live in Tasmania so it’s semi-rural and a smaller place meaning that my dad can get home by the end of the day which is a unique part of the circumstances in Tassie, but like… he wakes up at 3 am, I don’t envy that at least. 😅
I find it amusing how my parents work stories contrast with my mum’s role where she needs to bullshit around toxic coworkers… while my dad and his coworkers don’t take shit and swear like troopers. I can’t help but grin when my dad uses all the profanity in the book to describe a bad driver slowing down massively after overtaking him, or some operator or manager doing certain things.
Another great thing is when ever something gets written off, sometimes they give it to my dad. About a month ago he got given three boxes full of various AAA and AA batteries. As someone who’s hobby is video games… very appreciated ngl. I won’t have to buy batteries for years. Lol
The Aussies have a very practical way of doing everything, if it works, they use it. If it doesn't work, they're not interested. Bullshit's not tolerated, unless it's amusing bullshit, then they're all for it!
As an Australian I will go out of my way for amusing bullshit any day of the week.
@@OTSomewhere Australian from Victoria here, couldn't agree more
The government is the exception.
@@satya.anandakrishnan Unfortunately, Nobody get to choose weather or not their government is full of shit, they just are.
@@theafro I mean, we live in a representative democracy. That’s kinda the point of choosing members who aren’t full of $hit.
Australia has also had much looser emission regulations than Europe or the US especially in the outback euro 2 was good enough untill 2006 you could buy a brand new mechanically injected diesel with no EGR in 2006 and pre 1995 there were absolutely ZERO diesel emissions standards. Unfortunately you often see many newer, cleaner more efficient trucks in the Outback and old smelly trucks in around cities doing port to distribution center runs but you can still see plenty of REALLY old 2 stroke road trains driven by owner operators. As those old motors are easy to legally mod and and easy to fix when you're half way between Dingo piss creek and bum fuck nowhere with the nearest town being 1000 kilometers away.
Mate, you're not wrong. I was talking to a bloke that had an injector fail outside Ceduna. Trucks computer said "no". He said a mechanic had to come from Melbourne to fix the thing! For those outside Oz thats about 1500kms (950 miles). With an old truck, he could keep going on 7!
@@cme2cau Yeah I heard there are no truck mechanics in Adelaide or any of SA for that matter! Nice story John FFS 🤦🏻♂️
@@SpatialGuy77 It would not be impossible that it was a BS story. This was a few years ago, and computer controlled diesels weren't exactly thick on the ground. Yes, there are diesel mechanics everywhere (on every farm, for one) but it's a bit different in a modern engine than putting a new injector in a mechanically injected diesel. Without the right software (sometimes dealer only), you've got Buckleys.
@@cme2cau OK. So no computers in Adelaide then, my mistake.
'halfway between dingo piss creek and bum fuck nowhere'
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1:22 - in russian, colloquial name of bow bars for vehicles is "кенгурятник" ("kengur'atnik", as a reference to the word "кенгуру", that means "kangaroo").
Finally i understand, why it was called like that...) They was quite popular over here in 90-00's
In Australia, we call them kangaroo bars, or roo bars. Kangaroos are really stupid and have no understanding of how roads work. I've been on remote highways where there is a dead kangaroo at least every 100 meters, for many, many kilometers.
@@Starfireaw11 In Sweden we call them "Älgstaket" which translates to "Moose Fence".
Yep, just Roo Bar in Australia
@@tbone2646
Might be regional.... They're bullbars here in northern NSW.
To me, a roo bar is the softer, lighter type often used on family size sedans, 8 seater vans and some smaller SUVs.
@@harmless2142 moose fence is the best name i have ever read 😂
That's a really cool video. Here in Brazil we also have our own road trains, we call it "Rodotrem", that is the abbreviation of "rodovia" (highway) and "trem" (train).
Almost all goods are transported by trucks, except for iron ore and the soy produced in the Midwest, so trucks are really important for us and truckers have a lot of respect from the people (but they still earn such a small portion of what they represent.
The most commons trucks for road trains here are Scania, Mercedez and Volvo, and the interiors and the engines are praticaly the same. Some rodotrens can carry up to 91 tons, and it's impossible to not see them in rural areas such the São Paulo Interior.
In 2018 occured a strike by the truckers and the internal economy almost collapsed, some things were 5 times the prices the used to cost 2 weeks ago, you can search it by typing "2018 truck drivers strike".
This just popped up on my recomends, and now I'm fascinated that australia actually has a different type of truck to specific jobs, while in Brazil every truck it's the semi-truck cabin thing
It's definitely not, Brazil has all sorts of different trucks being used to haul shit around.
Exactly, we have both cabovers and front engined trucks. Cabovers are mostly seen near urban areas and front engined in the country side
@@MrCrazypb That's cool. Here in Germany you simply it simply doesn't make sense to operate a bonneted Truck because Europe overall simply lacks the space.The only companies operating these kind of Trucks merely use them as an eyecatcher.
@@fidel_manuwa1827 that makes sense considering most truck routes are fairly short in Europe compared to Brazil or Australia. The longer routes and lack of infrastructure require us to use both types depending on the job. We even have Road Trains here but they are mostly seen in highly agricultural areas where it is more economical to overload a single truck between short routes (say from harvest to mills)
Brazil has all sorts.
Even older long nose scania's i wouldn't be suprised if they got bedfords and leylands...
01:43 the truck on the right is from a firm called Intake transport, they're literally based 10minutes away from me! - I used to load steel trailers (what he's got on the back) at the docks that they would sometimes run loads out of!
Small world!
Watching this at 11 PM after cramming for a test. I have little to no interest in trucks, but I’d be dammed if I didn’t say this video is educational, interesting and really well edited! Im saving this channel and looking through more of your vids later!!
Yeah i love how there's all sorts of trucks in Australia. The Kenworth k200 cabover is rlly cool!!
likewise, It makes watching truck spotting videos pretty interesting since it's never the same thing after the other
I would love too be able to drive a k200 in the states
@@WillBilly. Australian fleet tech here, we have a mixed fleet of k200s, k909s, Volvo, Daimler etc
All our kenworths are X15 with 18 speed ultra shift road ranger setups. As much as older guys complain, we have never had any internal transmission faults, only clutches.
These things are great for scooting around with the shorter wheel base, however the ride quality compared to the euro cabs is shite, the drivers seat is air ride and that's about it, the cab just sits on big round cased bushes.
Main advantage to the k200s are shorter wheel base and cost, they are allegedly* significantly cheaper than buying a comparable performance euro cab over.
Vs the K909s with longer wheel base, air ride cab etc, for pulling long distance trains, drivers prefer either the 909s or the euro trucks. Hence we are apparently cutting back on the k200s and acquiring some more k909s and Volvo's I think.
It's a pretty rough truck
@@jordanbrolsma2724 I find it odd why American truck manufacturers all use the same blueprints for trucks in general, and they barely change from generation to generation. Cabovers don't have air suspension for the cab itself, that's why the ride quality is absolute shit. And they're not ergonomical whatsoever cuz they put the steps behind the front wheel. It doesn't improve handling and it's a hazard for the driver to make it that way since the risk for slipping and falling is greatly increased.
A Volturnian Lobster is explaning to me Australian Trucking.
I'm neither an Australian nor a trucker, and hell, I'm enjoying it anyway.
@@cruize55 what? why would I?! pff, no?...
..ugh.. fuck it, I'm breaking radio silence
COMMAND THEY ARE ONTO US, THE HUMANS FIGURED OUT THE INFILTRATION, GET ME OUTTA HERE
I’m a kiwi who thinks he’s Australian and I do drive trucks and I enjoyed it too
Such a great philosophy from this guy
We have short road trains in the US, occasionally you see them on the interstate. They don't usually pull more than two full sized trailers, but very rarely you may see three. It used to be more common, but with our nearly 140,000 miles of freight rail and the extreme reliability of diesel-electric locomotives, we have no need for the longer road trains like you may see in the Outback.
You dont have roadtrains they are called B doubles
@@aussiedrone1511 that and their infrastructure is better than ours
I'm a truck driver; I see triples frequently, but usually only West of the Mississippi.
Yup. True. Triples aren't legal in all states. No US states allow more than 3.
A double or a triple is not a road train, son
Another fun fact - In Australia length is always the limiting factor on different routes.
In aus length is measured from the from of the Bullbar to the back of the trailer.
Sometimes having a bonneted truck can put you over length.
That's why the Cabover Kenworths are so popular
I remember in 1991 seeing a huge green and yellow Tipple Framed Superliner. She had a 800 HP V8, and was at a dealership in NJ waiting got the ship to take her down under to work as a Road Train for a mining operation there.
Quite the Work Unit!
Cab overs are definitely taking over in Australia.
20+ years ago there would have been more conventional styled trucks, now there’s more cab overs getting around.
It’s pretty normal to see a b-double with a cab over. Even road trains are going cab over.
The Asian trucks are usually only ridged trucks or maybe a smaller single trailer. You don’t see many Asian trucks hauling huge trailers.
Cabovers offer superior driver comfort, visability, manovability and versatility. Look at Volvo Australia's XXL cab. Designed, tested and manufactured in Australia for our unique extreme conditions. 👍👍🇭🇲
Well I mean, Scania and Volvo's insane horsepower wars might be slightly to blame here.
@@HrHaakon I'm waiting to see who will release the first 1000hp engine in a commercial vehicle. Both Volvo and Scania produce 2000hp + industrial engines but these monsters are not a commercially viable option due to size.👍👍🇭🇲
Asian trucks focus more on efficiency and cost effectiveness. The largest Australian Isuzu engine is only 540hp out of a 15.7L 6 cylinder 6WG1. They often run at max GVM, which is 54 tonnes for the larger models. They aren't made to drive up and down mountain ranges fully loaded or do cross country trips, they were made by a small island nation for inter-city commerce. Asian trucks dominate the market of small to medium trucks, as there are models that can be driven on a car licence, and they're cheap and efficient for light and medium rigid trucks. They're also like Lego, in that they are fully customisable from cab, engine, gearbox, driveline, axles, body type and GVM. american and European trucks are only any good for B-doubles or bigger.
@@CantBeFucked69420 Not necessarily accurate. Take note of the increasing numbers of Volvo, Scania and MAN vehicles in heavy rigid configurations that have infinite modification options. Volvo are growing the light rigid market with UD.👍👍🇭🇲
Fairly comprehensive explanation. The only thing I’d really differ on is the forward crash bars. Many would call them “Roo bars”. Especially in Australia, as the kangaroo is fairly common in the Outback.
bull bars mate roo bars go on you mums corolla
Also called Bull bars
As a aussie truckie myself I approve this video
Your approval isn't needed for this video to exist though
@@RileyWhitts virgin?
Used to drive a 4900 Western Star as cattle train, water cart and machinery float, going through the bush always offered something different and was never dull
As an Australian who lives in the central of Queensland I game agree that conventional trucks are seen a lot here and are used pretty frequently in the central part of australia
Mate how do you know so much about the Aussie trucking industry? You absolutely nailed it. Legend.
Missed the part about there being a huge amount of older American trucks still on the road. Aus is a US truck enthusiasts dream
this channel has sparked my interest in trucking for some reason. for the past week ive been on wiki pages for different trucks and trucking cultrues, never thought it would come to this.
Yeah me too, since I'm also playing ETS2 recently that leads me into this trucking world
@@spidergoblin. for me, ive never touched a trucking simulator but now im considering getting one. which one do you recommend?
@@Sixtixx Depends on what you like. If you like American trucking, then get American Truck Simulator.
But if u like European trucking which I do, they get the Europe Truck Simulator. It is best with a wheel if U have one
If you're interested in the industry you can get yourself in almost any part of it right now from how understaffed it is, be it driver, dispatcher, mechanic, salesman at the dealership, gate guard at the drop yard, there's a lot of desk jobs even, for every driver and mechanic out there there's usually 1 person behind a desk helping them out
🤣🤣🤣😂 I did it from 1991 to 2018. Drove my first truck in the US Army and have driven in 3 countries. If you count my Army experience I have over 30 years trucking. After having a heart attack, bypass surgery, being put on insulin after surgery the Government I can't drive anymore. Since being retired 2022 has been my best year.
The Australian trucking industry as a whole is just so much cooler than the rest of the world
Yeah it is lol
I’ve seen it
not really it is going downhill due to new regulations and companies pushing drivers to their boundaries and crap pay. i am an australian and a truckie. we have lots of imported drivers( immigrant ) that can only go forward and dont know how to reverse a semi.
@@biteme0973 People don't respect truckers who can maneuver their vehicle backwards into tight spots. They do love their groceries though
@@biteme0973 We are seeing that here in the States also. And they are getting a CDL without knowledge of the equipment and the rules. Some even cannot speak or read English. Unfortunately many newer drivers do not possess backing or maneuvering skills when they start. All of this is making it interesting here. Also made it easy for me to retire when I hit my seventieth birthday. It is getting crazier on our roads all the time here.
@@ronfullerton3162 sounds like I'm on for a treat. Learning and training to get my CDL currently through a company and a school. Were learning loads about backing and they're making us practice it every day for hours.
As an Aussie, I am surprisingly very proud to see this 🤣🤣
I remember traveling across Australia a couple of times as a 9-11 year old. From Perth TO Sydney, Perth TO Melbourne. Was great staying at different truck stops and seeing the small towns and some beautiful natural sights (Mountains, Australian Bite etc). Was all done in a Mack truck, once as what you'd say is a road train. Good vid mate, just brought back some memories from 20+ years ago.
All this roads look so cool!
I wish Australian people were real 🤌🏽
Lol
Shhhhhhh
I wish I was real as well.
True mate. I reckon I'm unreal.
When things are too good to be true....
I absolutely loved this video! The editing and pacing are great, and you have a nice, soothing narrator voice.
I like that trucking in Australia is hybrid of American and European ways of doing things. Bless the drivers who drive those big rigs to the outbacks.
I just drove from North Queensland to Victoria via the Barcaldine-Bourke-Echuca way. I saw a lot of these. They are easy to overtake because it is so flat and the roads are straight as well as being deserted.
The big issue we have is that we abandoned diversification of other modes of transport in favour of road trains, leaving them as the sole monopoly on transport, which a couple years ago nearly brought the country to crisis as a result when drivers started getting sick en masse.
Not advocating for total removal but having a couple of options in transit is far smarter than going all in on one option that is increasingly getting more and more expensive to operate as time goes on.
My Dad’s been a Truckie my entire life and the industry seems to constantly be in a state of crisis.
I saw only a dozen australian cabovers in the US, and they are exclusively owned by very rich drivers who literally have the job just for fun, no clue how they got them into the US
I seen a newer cab over in Ohio/WV once, and I was so confused. But I was amazed by the cab over. It took me a while to assume that it was imported from Australia.
@@DraxTrac I seen them in newark
I seen European cab overs in the US, they were all Scanias. And even one Scania was driving with European trailer and license plates.
I believe what folks are seeing on US roads are the Freightliner Argosy. The last cabover Freightliner built in the US for over-the-road use. Still available new as a “Glider Kit” which is about an 80% complete truck.
It's very rare to see a euro trucks but I've
seen 2 Scanias and a few Man trucks in the USA and there's a Foden that drives regularly on i49 in Louisiana
Here in Aus both my parents are truckies. Mum drives a mack with a bonnet and dad drives a Mercedes cabin over. Its always funny to see my 5' tall mum clamber down the side of her mack.
Lady drivers are getting more common here in the States also. Some are very good drivers! Plus many of them look better to me than their male counterparts.
😅🤣
Australia's extensive list of trucks is the reason we classify pickup trucks as utes to make everything a little easier.
Yeah exactly
Like the episode of the Simpson's
Marge goes to a rural pub. Like full ocker gets asked
Well do ya wanna beer
(Its a pub of course It's a drink or sort of get f%$$d go to a milk bar if you want a soft drink)
Marge is like coffee
He's like (probably an American brand of beer)
Bee- beer
Very disappointed that the old International ACCO cabover didn't get a guernsey in this video! Australian built trucks from 1949 all the way through to the 2000s, they were a mainstay of trucking in this country - and are still common on the road. I've just bought an ACCO 2250D 6x4 running an International DT466 engine with a 10 meter tray to haul my earthmoving equipment.
I am arguing in the comments about which cab design is better
Oh no you're not...
Let's go!
Cab under style is the best as the engine shades from the sun.
Scania and Volvo did have bonetted models in Australia in the 80s.
American actor Stacey Keach was driving a very modern Mercedes Benz V-series semi trailer through the Nullabor in 1981's Road Games.
My dad used to own a 1980s V8 bonetted Scania in the 90s
@@alpharaptor7510 I love the sound of the six cylinder Scania cab overs from that era, but the V8 your described is a powerhouse.
not much was cooler than seeing a road train as a kid and pumping your arm in the air for the driver to hit the horn 😂
As an American trucker, we have both cab overs and bonneted trucks here in the USA. You see bonneted trucks makin fling Hal’s of 6,000 miles across great expanses of wilderness, and cab overs doing lots of deliveries in the cities. Most of America is rural with great distances in between cities, so bonneted trucks are more common
Well, they're both usefull
I think we have different ideas of what 'Great distances between cities' is
@@devo3243 3,000 mile drives are common
Just discovered & binged your great videos yesterday. Was pleasantly surprised to see you had just posted a video about my own country 🇦🇺. Love your stuff!
hello yukon
hello "STAROBEX"
As an Aussie I was a little shocked to find out over the last few years how narrow some overseas markets are in the truck choices available. Always taken our truck choices for granted.
I am a Commercial Truck & Transport Technician, so I may be able to provide some insight. Cab over trucks are very difficult to service, requiring the cab to be lifted by a built in jack on the side of the tractor (truck). A fairly simple repair on a conventional tractor (Cascadia, 57X or 49X, International) such as a radiator replacement, serpentine belt, or front crank re-seal become exponentially tougher on a cab over. Limited space for an overhead crane and tech means more parts have to be disassembled, moreover, cab-overs can be dangerous (and often require secondary props to prevent a cab falling). The benefits of a cab-over is strictly for the operator, with better turning radius and visibility as you stated. A company must seriously consider this fact, and come to a harmonious solution for their fleet. In North America, day cabs have taken over the industry -although they lack amenities for long haul routes. Over all, I tend to prefer conventional tractors and so do most drivers due to the space.
Sure Australia is a paradise for truck lovers like me, so much variety of brands and configurations.
Nice to see American looking trucks pulling "European looking trailers" and vice versa.
The only problem of course is the harsh environment.
*"Nice to see American looking trucks pulling "European looking trailers" and vice versa"*
Well, trailers in Australia has different requirements. Just like Europe, all trailers in Australia require amber turn signals and reverse lights.
Most American trailer come with red turn signals and no reverse lights at all.
@@automation7295 Also america really don't like curtainsiders.
Meanwhile here in europe we LOVE them to the point it's impossible not to see one.
The fridge van trailers are thicker than European or American trailers
@@automation7295 The fridge van trailers are thicker than European or American trailers
Love being an Australian 😀
Ausie ausie ausie
@@lachlanarbuckle8539 OI OI OI
@@Str8UpL4zy that’s the one
Great country, despotic govt
the country would be a lot better off without the people running it
2:32 - "Jumping over to the coast" "proceeds to display a highlighted area that includes sections AT LEAST 400km from any ocean"... did you forget how big Australia was, m8? O.o
0:37 Literally looks like Optimus !
When i went to Perth, Australia back in 2018, i saw so many types of Trucks, with a lotta diversity of American, European & Japanese manufacturers.
Spent a few days on deployment in Mungindi and stayed at a hotel that once held the Guinness book of world records record for longest land train. From the pictures it looked like it went on for a kilometer!
And apparently only moved a meter or so.
@@jimzeleny7213 I can imagine after a solid gust of wind or a flood pushing it along lol!
Hgv mechanic here, I'd say as far as comfort goes the cab over is absolutely the most comfortable to drive, air suspension with the cab then also airsprung with an airsprung seat inside that, with adjustable dampers usually, are a beautifully smooth drive, there's three layers of air suspension between you and the road and they're sublime. Largely overkill really in most places but in the outback I can imagine they'd save you some spinal compression here and there. That's to drive though, a conventional truck, what I'd call a cab back style (because the cab is backward of the engine) are often far more comfortable to live in because of the extra space, the crazy kitchen setups and living spaces you see in those things are insane. Cab back to live in but a cab over to drive is for sure my preference
Part of what makes cab-overs so popular here is our laws, trucks have a maximum length in cities measured from the front of the prime mover to the back of the trailer so a cab-over lets you pull a longer trailer with more cargo.
So the same reason why they were so common here in the states until it was deregulated. You still see them, but if it's a cabover combination vehicle, it was most likely made in the 70's or early 80's.
I absolutely agree with freedom of choice. As a driver and mechanic I find Cab overs are the same or more comfortable, the quality of the seat is the biggest factor, and Cab overs are way better to work on.
did everyone miss this in the description haha
"Why does everything in Australian society end in -ie or -o. Does it have anything to do with Australia's history as a penal colony for the criminal class? I'm just asking questions. I say this because my uncle owns a trucking business down under and also he's a homosexual."
I think the conventional cab looks cool asf compared to the ones we see here in europe
They're much easier to live in that's for sure. I spend a month or more in my truck at a time and it even gets a little small at times, couldn't imagine living in a cabover long term. Yikes
I don't think the engine size question/power is really why cab overs aren't used for road trains, since the most powerful Euro truck has nearly 200hp over the most powerful US truck. Same for the comfort, cabovers tend to be more comfortable and luxurious than conventional bonneted ones. What you said about fires and ease of repair is very true though, I am sure that's why more old-school trucks are preferred there.
Yeah the Mack's are essentially like the life blood and the Euros are like the fancy jewellery on the bloke when he needs to looks good for the local .. I guess
Or maybe I'm comparing trucks to the wrong apples
The first time I ever saw a “Road Train” was when I went on holiday to the Australia Outback
Conventional cabs have air ride mounts too, plus a longer wheelbase to smooth out the feel of bumpy roads. A cabover is really only a better choice if you need the extra maneuverability.
Now I want an "Ausie Truck Simulator" from SCS
Truck world Australia is in development but currently there isn't much footage of the game
MA rating for language ;)
We all do
I'm an Aussie and my mum goes mental for trucks, like proper excited, I think it's cause she got to drive one outback as a kid (monitored of course) she likes the "road trains" though before this I've never fucking heard that, we genuinely just call them "big fuck of truck"s
For sure you’re an up and coming UA-camr, can’t wait to see more quality bite sized videos like this
Bolivia and I think many south American countries also "give" you the "freedom" to choose which truck style you prefer. Cab over or with a bonnet. Also brands vary, from UD, to Scania, to freightliner, to Volvo (European, American and Brazilian) to even some Chinese brands. You can purchase whichever style you prefer and use it.
Seems odd to hear someone mention Peterbilt for brands within Australia rather than Freightliner and or Western Star. Peterbilts do exist here but aren't sold here and are far far less common.
Outside of Kenworth, Western Star and Freightliner are the American brands I see the most, with models such as the Argosy and 4800/4900 being the most common models for Freightliner and Western Star.
Kenworth is king here in Australia
Kenworths parent company paccar might be American, but Australian kenworths are design and built in Australia
Lol
The one thing I do hear from truckies is that they won’t even do interstate driving unless they are in a Standard Cab Style Truck for the reason that if involved in a Headon Collision it is safer than a Cabover Style
As an Australian, Brother you aced the jargon. You know what you're talking about.
Strewth Ken oath matey bingo. Ripper of a kent
When you open the hood of a proper roadtrain you see yellow
proper truck**
Omg this is crazy I was watching your Europe Trucks video and I was thinking he should do one on Australia
Mate I live here in Australia, trucks come across the bigger roads pretty commonly.
the guy who runs this channel still hasnt lost that passion for trucks since he was a toddler
Why are you not popular why..
give it some time
@@jaumegenaro7673 2 years
@@mrn8032 2 days more
It's so weird to see an industry I'm heavily involved with talked about. Many great companies, and some not so great, shown in these pictures. It's nice to see the interest is there.
Thanks for calling it a bonnet and not a hood!
It seems pretty obvious to me which style is better.
Short city haulers are better suited with cab-overs due to FOV, turning, and brake radius.
Long distance haulers are better suited with "bonneted" cabs due to larger cab room and ease of engine access.
If your on a several day trip, your going to want a cab you can stretch your legs in at the end of the day, rest, watch TV, etc.
If your truck breaks down, your going to want to be able to refuge in it _and_ be able to check the engine, especially in the scorching sun. It can be the difference between getting towed, or just being sent a maintenance truck to repair something. Especially if you dont need to keep getting out and tipping the cab to inspect it.
If your in the city, thats all kind of pointless, since most hauls wont be more than 8 hours. And the benefits of a bonneted truck arent that helpful in the denser cities and are overengineered for the city needs.
1:47 I am not so sure about that. The most powerful trucks in production at the moment are both cabovers, with the Scania 770S (770hp) and the Volvo FH16 (750hp)
You are correct. Here in New Zealand the most powerful long nose truck is a Mack MP10 at 685hp which of course is just a Volvo engine (D16) Cummins do a 615hp and Detroit a 560hp.
its always brought up. how do these content creators not know this yet?
The new k220 is mad but I like the k200 better
With its electronic dash? Lol that thing will be a bitch to maintain in the Outback.
The US should adpot this style of trucking too. Euro cabovers for intercity runs and conventional cabs for cross country long haul runs.
THIS
Oh hey someone’s talking about where I’m from.
This just unclogged something in my brain. For the longest time I assumed Iveco was a japanese manufacturer getting them mixed up with Isuzu, when I do know by hearth that Isuzu is a different brand.
Good to know that the Italians actually have a real heavy goods vehicle manufacturer rather then just Fiat being thier peak of utility vehicles.
Iveco occupies the former International truck manufacturing plant in Dandenong, Melbourne. I used to deliver Road Ranger gearboxes and clutches to there.
Iveco Trakker is very popular and effective as off-road truck for quarries and construction sites in Italy, mewnwhile Iveco S-way/Stralis for long haul is not much used compared to volvo or Scania
The former manager of Iveco Australia once told me that the name stands for "It Vibrates, Everything Comes Off"
@@davidbest7859 LOL Drivers have always kidded about truck names. The first one I heard was aimed at the American brand GMC that use to make heavy duty trucks. I was told it stood for "General Mess of Crap"! The International Trucks were referred to as "Binders" while they were still a part of the International Harvester ag-equipment company. That was because the foundation of the company was from the McCormick binder, the predecessor of the combine. Drove both makes, and they were solid trucks. But still called them the same as every other driver did back then.
The point of a cabover being unable to fit a large engine is wrong. The fact is that the trucks with the biggest and strongest engines built today are almost exclusively cabovers. Scania has a 770 hp, Volvo a 750 hp and MAN a 640 hp just to state a few. Volvo also has a presence in the conventional market, but bring at most 500 hp like their competing conventional truck manufacturers.
Damn. Making me want to watch Mad Max again. Toecutter’s demise to what looks like a Road Train… satisfying ending to a great movie.
Fun fact about trucking, at least in SA/WA: The largest of our birds of prey, the Wedge Tailed-Eagle, has entirely become a scavenger as a result of roadkills on the Nullarbor highway between Victoria and Western Australia. Other parts of the country they actively take kills. Along that road, they never need to.
Bloody menace, too. If you go round a bend at 110 and there's a wedgie in the middle of the road stuffing its face, they can't get out of the way in time. The generally make it up to about windshield height before impact.
So… Everybody just assumes these huge American/Australian trucks will just monster the European cabovers, when in fact no bonneted truck has ever been sold stock with much over 600hp - compared to Volvo which has been selling trucks with 750hp for over 10 years…
They don't go much above 600hp because they simply don't need to for the amount they can legally carry
Volvo makes bonneted trucks though.. lol
@@chickenfishhybrid44 Yeah, forgot about those heinous things.. They may make them, but again, not with 750hp they don’t
@@archygrey9093 So no trucks ever haul oversize loads..? Did you even watch this video lol.. If you’ve ever tried hauling 50.000kg up a hill you will appreciate why a lot of truckers are swearing by the FH16 750 and now the Scania R770.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 Not sold with the big cabover engines.
I feel there are way too many videos on the internet that bait there audience into arguing in the comments section to generate views.
I came here to learn why Australia has some cool ass trucks...and I learned nothing of importance, nothing joyful...and am now somehow irritated. I guess it worked.
I was weirdly having a similar conversation with a French sommelier, he was saying he prefers wineries here because we happily drink wines from all over the world. In places like France and Italy you only drink your country's wines
Even as an Australian I didn’t know that our trucks were so good, and that other countries don’t have as many trucks or things like ours. This was very interesting to watch
How is tilting a cab more laborious? Modern cabovers have hidraulic cab lifters..
American impression of a COE trucks are stuck in the 80's while the world have moved on. All they normally seen on the road are conventionals and any cab over trucks are either old and outdated or chromed out show truck.
Right many manufacturers even offer electronically activated hydraulics for the cab tilting so all you have to do is press a button if it's too much work to pump the hydraulics manually. Can't get much easier than that
Lol, you think Cabovers in the US don't have hydraulic lift? A standard hood is still quicker and easier to get up. Once a cabover is up they do have an access advantage for doing repairs, you also have to deal with any of your belongings flying all over the place when you lift the cab, not a huge deal but can be quite annoying.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 yeah better put all your stuff on the floor if you don't want to add a new windshield to whatever repair is already being done
I am dutch, and I only have seen an american or australian truck ones. we only have trucks with engines bellow you. if we see a truck with the engine in front of you it is really cool. also the blind spot of the 'dutch' trucks is way bigger. but with new mirror's you can't place on australian trucks the blind spot is less. I think it is opinion indeed. both has its pro's and cons
Its awesome how diverse the truck market is in Aus compared to other countries
Yup
Like the pull down menu at the RTA Or marine roads... whatever they call it now (bloody he'll why change)
I drive truck
Menu pulls down
Faaaark this is worse than pulling the pants down an ostrich
So to speak
(On account of how many ruffles the poor bird has)
Me: How do they stop?
Vid: They have bull bars.
Me: Got it.
HULK SMASH