THE CHANGELING Episode 7 Breakdown, Theories & Details You Missed!

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  • @Edibleaccents
    @Edibleaccents 11 місяців тому +342

    I get the whole point of the episode was to reveal what happened to his father, but it was so drawn out and extra.

    • @Lavs1
      @Lavs1 11 місяців тому +20

      AGREED.

    • @Darkanent
      @Darkanent 11 місяців тому +28

      Could’ve been told in 10 minutes of the episodes and even that’s a lot.

    • @charlesmartin_thenegotiator
      @charlesmartin_thenegotiator 11 місяців тому +28

      I still don’t know happened

    • @youmadd7466
      @youmadd7466 11 місяців тому +15

      Everything went over my head.

    • @Edibleaccents
      @Edibleaccents 11 місяців тому +9

      @@youmadd7466 it was a dream. A stupid one at that

  • @yourstruly481
    @yourstruly481 11 місяців тому +19

    Just a half-baked theory: But I'm thinking the transgender woman that was found shoved under the bed was actually a disguised Brian, and everyone just assumed that it was a trick gone wrong. Remember his mother's "aha" moment when the hotel clerk, Lester, has to protect the prostitute from her john, and warns her that she will end up "shoved in a suitcase" if she isn't careful? Also, notice that the suitcase already had a wig, a sequined dress, and other feminine items inside. It was also stressed that no one cared enough to look for Brian once he was missing, meaning that even once they recovered the body, it would still go unclaimed. I think that is also why Apollo's mother's name appeared multiple times in the ledger. There was obviously the visit where she intends to end her life, and then there is the visit where she returns with Brian's body already in the suitcase and leaves it under the motel room bed.

    • @michelletroy4697
      @michelletroy4697 11 місяців тому +3

      I have to say he'd never fit in that suitcase lol

    • @orlandoromero22
      @orlandoromero22 2 місяці тому

      Did you see that suitcase in earlier episode getting dumped in river. Think ep six. But good theory 👌

    • @EsperUltima
      @EsperUltima 2 місяці тому

      ​@@orlandoromero22 the suitcase could possibly contain other things such as the recordings which she should be trying to get rid of...but yea, the episode left too much ambiguity.

    • @orlandoromero22
      @orlandoromero22 2 місяці тому

      @TARS20 I just finished watching the series in 2nights binged, Loved it. Was looking for folklore changelings movies& found that.I never heard of it but when said series I was all in. The acting of both actors the twists and it turns I was trying to figure it out I can't wait for the next season but that episode wàs lazy. It was so much time spent on the mother and a little hotel room but it was too much of fluff. Like they could have put more into it then drag it out with the mother scene what do you think if you reply I enjoy talking movies

  • @mattyboyb523
    @mattyboyb523 11 місяців тому +48

    Wonderful done but incredibly frustrating to watch at this stage of the story. In the end it’ll be incredibly important I’m sure but I was expecting an episode that would move the story forward much more. Really awesome video, short and sweet, this really clarified a few things for me

  • @Mads-vo3ic
    @Mads-vo3ic 11 місяців тому +16

    I thought she dressed him up as the woman mentioned at the start. They said a trans women was found under the duvet and their face was unrecognisable, and they said she had a glitter dress!

  • @Nik_Key
    @Nik_Key 11 місяців тому +51

    I had a feeling Brian wasn’t Apollo’s dad.

    • @Darkanent
      @Darkanent 11 місяців тому +35

      Makes sense on why he wasn’t lightskinned because I was asking sense episode 1. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @SAVINMEEKZ
      @SAVINMEEKZ 11 місяців тому +14

      @@Darkanent not every mixed kid comes out light especially when the mom is Black

    • @TheCloveart
      @TheCloveart 11 місяців тому +8

      @@SAVINMEEKZ They also don't look like Lakeith Stanfield, either.

    • @SAVINMEEKZ
      @SAVINMEEKZ 11 місяців тому

      @@TheCloveart they absolutely can. Cant blame you for your ignorance the media fetishize mixed children who are lighter.

    • @kristingallo2158
      @kristingallo2158 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@DarkanentTv shows have been epically failing at that lately. I get they're trying to be inclusive, but I wouldn't have even looked at how he doesn't "look" biracial because casting has been crap with that in almost everything.

  • @priscillao1064
    @priscillao1064 11 місяців тому +11

    I 100% think the boss is Apollo's dad. Not just because of appearance, but Apollo loves books and when the boss was trying to woo Lillian, he did it with books.

    • @Apryll.
      @Apryll. 11 місяців тому +1

      A love of books isnt genetic

    • @CHAOS1997
      @CHAOS1997 11 місяців тому

      Hahah
      TF
      Apollo is blacker than me
      Black as a moonless night
      Only way his ass was fathered by that blonde-haired,blue-eyed cop is through magic
      That was the dead giveaway

  • @Francis-Kanja
    @Francis-Kanja 11 місяців тому +5

    It appears that Elk Hotel is a central place for the Woods that Emma is looking for. Elk Hotel seems to be an Altar where the fairies feast on the dreams and longings ( tasty secrets ) of the living. Also, we see the principle of of the three - Emma’s 3 wishes and Lillian’s 3 traumatic day experiences of men dying in her arms. The trauma victims seem very attractive in terms of identity - they loose who they really are, like Brian. Dreams and longing together with desperate covenants seem to be a central theme for the fairies since the ocean scene in the first episode.

  • @BruddaEL
    @BruddaEL 11 місяців тому +10

    What if Brian did drown and kill Apollo (where was Apollo while Lillian is in the motel all bloody?) and Lillian makes some deal with that beast in the water by stuffing Apollos little body into the suitcase and throwing it in the water. What if grown Apollos is actually a changeling and that’s why he’s always calling himself a god because he was sent as a substitute (changeling) from that false god creature to replace Lillian’s real child that was killed. Idk just a thought.

    • @mikejones-wy5hv
      @mikejones-wy5hv 11 місяців тому +2

      There is nothing magical about Apollo, Emma or Lillian. you will understand the story more if you look at it like this Apollo, Emma and Lillian are Alice and New York where this story is taken place is Wonderland.

  • @Elliotohyeah
    @Elliotohyeah 11 місяців тому +6

    all i know is i want those donuts she was talking about

    • @CHAOS1997
      @CHAOS1997 11 місяців тому

      Mandazi
      They're delicious
      Pretty sure even a kid could make them (at least I did as a kid)
      But the boiling oil is dangerous

  • @SuperJa770
    @SuperJa770 11 місяців тому +9

    I think the comparison between the sick man in bed and younger Lillian making a plea with her older self are that in both scenes the older Lillian appeared before them both as a godlike figure or fairy maybe. She granted both their wishes from their point of view, and older Lillian was in per present timeline while she relived those moments, thus displaying her power. Also maybe the witch that Emma had visited by the lake, and been told by the local bartender not to let her touch you, was a future version of Emma. The witch has one blue eye, and at the end of episode 6 you can see Emmas eyes turn blue. And although Emmas hair and the witches hair are different by color, they are both noticeable features on both characters. Their hair is the first thing you see when you look at them because it stands out on them both.

    • @myajanell2504
      @myajanell2504 11 місяців тому +2

      I can kinda agree with the witch being the older version of Emma and another similarity is their laugh😳

    • @mite1981
      @mite1981 11 місяців тому +1

      I think the spirit of that witch is in Emma

  • @ms.colleen9646
    @ms.colleen9646 11 місяців тому +32

    I absolutely hated this episode. I love the series, but this episode was so self indulgent of the director. It felt like a badly written one-act play on off-off-off Broadway. The details of Lilian's past could have been such an interesting episode, as everything she did effects Apollo. But man, it was a hard watch.

    • @BigDavos
      @BigDavos 11 місяців тому +7

      When she starting singing I almost turned it off

    • @Tashhtalk
      @Tashhtalk 11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, doing wayyyy too much. It was so off brand for the show. I could tell the director was thinking “yeah we’re getting an award for this episode” after it was filmed.

  • @Tier1GearEDCReviews
    @Tier1GearEDCReviews 11 місяців тому +16

    This could have been done in a 10 minute sequence… It seems like they’re just trying to confuse you at this point considering it’s still pretty vague exactly what happened. If this don’t get fully explained in the next episode, then I might be officially turned off by the series. The first few episodes were amazing but this one, not so much.

  • @mermaid000pranu
    @mermaid000pranu 11 місяців тому +2

    Couldn't understand what was going on in the episode so had to come here.
    But i am still confused.

  • @cardboard2night
    @cardboard2night 11 місяців тому +11

    I don't get comments... I really liked this episode. The whole show is like this dreamlike state, which makes its logic feel flimsy, but yet it is still captivating.

  • @endor8witch
    @endor8witch 11 місяців тому +11

    the plot holes and confusing storyline is because the book was badly written. i was surprised this book got adapted cause it's largely panned by reviewers on youtube

  • @Mouiiyo
    @Mouiiyo 11 місяців тому +11

    Ty, i stopped watching this show because they can't stop adding mystery over mystery and it's purely shit at this point..

  • @StyleS_
    @StyleS_ 11 місяців тому

    I like how the sign said Gire when u put it together and it means losing it

  • @recons1938
    @recons1938 10 місяців тому

    Was so delighted to know she is Ugandan. Really a masterful piece.

  • @tenchfroast
    @tenchfroast 11 місяців тому

    These thumbs and the ones in jbuck studios look so alike. I had both videos recommended and thought for a second that it was the same channel 😂

  • @slbfiel8203
    @slbfiel8203 11 місяців тому

    I couldn't finish the episode. Only watched 15mins and came straight to this video.

  • @Murasakitsuyukusa
    @Murasakitsuyukusa 11 місяців тому +1

    Am I the only one who thought it was heavily implied that Lily Ann ate her ex-husband Brian "to become a real American"? I don't think her phrase about "eating a fat dog" was just a metaphor. And I doubt that an adult male would fit in that medium-sized suitcase of hers, maybe some parts of him. And there's a mistake at 1:55, it's baby Apollo not baby Brian.

  • @kathrynkoopman9793
    @kathrynkoopman9793 11 місяців тому +1

    So happy I listened to this explanation of the episode. I was completely lost.

  • @soreloser18
    @soreloser18 11 місяців тому +2

    I couldn't watch it like a long monolog. The story she was telling I couldn't follow, like reading a book above my grade level

  • @onewinter9411
    @onewinter9411 11 місяців тому

    I want to side with Lillian... I do... But I doubt her so much now and think that she could be gaslighting Brian Sr. and underestimating his mental health by messing with his mental state and having an affair with the boss.

  • @rootypoots
    @rootypoots 11 місяців тому

    Quick note: You used a photo of moose when talking about elk.

  • @KevinIsrael
    @KevinIsrael 11 місяців тому +1

    The use of the actors from other parts of this show to play new charters in this episode confused me, and seemed unnecessary. I assumed Dad Brian was secretly gay and died of AIDS - my wife thought the same.

  • @amynicole5884
    @amynicole5884 11 місяців тому +3

    I want to love this show but need to look up recaps after the last 4 episodes to see what they mean. It's getting old and annoying.

  • @drcj4973
    @drcj4973 11 місяців тому +1

    I thought she dressed the dad up in a that gold dress and stuffed him under the bed. That’s why he was never heard of again. And that’s why no one ever claimed the transvestite’s body. Brian had no family.

  • @nickatnite16
    @nickatnite16 11 місяців тому +4

    After watching 1st two episodes,i thought this was going to be a good series. It got progressively worse with each episode,this past episode being the culmination of its deterioration

  • @maniacmagee1493
    @maniacmagee1493 11 місяців тому +6

    It’s funny cause the dad had to know Brian wasn’t his. Ain’t no white in that baby. First flash of his insanity right there.

  • @katlovera
    @katlovera 11 місяців тому

    The third dead man is baby Apollo. Her father kills him and that's why she kills her husband. Surely later she made the deal to recover his dead son.

  • @Darr1071
    @Darr1071 11 місяців тому +1

    People complaining about how complex the episode was are funny! They want everything fed to them with a spoon. Don’t be those people with an attention span of an average TikTok consumer

    • @jujuakinlade
      @jujuakinlade 11 місяців тому +1

      Exactlyyyy! It’s insane it was a gem of an episode and allowed us an insight of the past via a dream. It was beautifully done

  • @jaygoodwin8833
    @jaygoodwin8833 11 місяців тому

    So is Apollos father Blackwood or Brian West???

    • @CHAOS1997
      @CHAOS1997 11 місяців тому +2

      Blackwood
      The boss
      The final scene shows Lillian and Blackwood had entered their name in the guest book of that hotel in 1977 (the year Apollo was conceived)
      Lillian was gaslighting her husband when he confronted her about the affair

    • @jaygoodwin8833
      @jaygoodwin8833 11 місяців тому +1

      @@CHAOS1997 That explains why Apollo is played by a fully black actor unlike Emma whose actor is biracial

  • @JukeboxWithJay
    @JukeboxWithJay 11 місяців тому

    Brian’s not dead he was revived like Kindergarten 🤯

  • @SevinaSevina-b4p
    @SevinaSevina-b4p 11 місяців тому +5

    I kind of feel bad for Brian ( the dad) because his "insanity" was brought on by the fact that the wife he adored never loved him, was lying for a while, cheated on him, and I'm sure he realised Apollo was not his son. The one thing he wanted was a chance at a happy family..... his world fell apart.

    • @Mads-vo3ic
      @Mads-vo3ic 11 місяців тому +2

      It was not Lillian’s fault that he was an abusive piece of shit. You cannot blame her for trying to kill his son? That’s ridic!!!

    • @laraertl7911
      @laraertl7911 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Mads-vo3ic I’ve seen a few people call him “a good man” and blaming Lillian for his breakdown. It’s scary how many people totally missed how hugely abusive he was from the start!

    • @CHAOS1997
      @CHAOS1997 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@laraertl7911
      Is a man being abusive supposed to justify tricking him into raising a child that isn't his?
      Or is a man being abusive supposed to make you leave him?
      Use your head kid
      Driving people insane by your actions does not mean your bear no responsibility in the consequences

    • @laraertl7911
      @laraertl7911 11 місяців тому +2

      @@CHAOS1997 I wasn’t justifying anything, or saying that Lilian isn’t also at fault for what she did, what she did was also wrong, it just bothers me to see so many people calling him “such a good man” and blaming Lilian for his insanity, dude was clearly already insane and scary abusive! It doesn’t excuse what she did at all, she should have ran right after that picnic!

  • @popcornplaya83ify
    @popcornplaya83ify 10 місяців тому

    This episode was so confusing so does that mean his father was not a mythical creature or was he a human I don't know... Then that one episode were he had a blue face and blowing out the blue smoke what was that about it doesn't make sense So lost on this🤦🏾‍♂️ series its a hit d miss for all i know if they do make a season two they better answer all these damn questions lol

  • @glizzymcguire4849
    @glizzymcguire4849 2 місяці тому

    Was the guy holding the sign and wearing the sea captain’s hat the sewer dwelling history buff from the last episode?

  • @natl1570
    @natl1570 11 місяців тому +1

    It was the longest episode of the series & the most boring. It dragged on way to long and confused me.

  • @islandgyal3730
    @islandgyal3730 11 місяців тому

    👍🏽

  • @ColoRADbro420
    @ColoRADbro420 11 місяців тому +1

    I didn’t like this episode.

  • @72ndHUMAN
    @72ndHUMAN 11 місяців тому

    Wack

  • @Romar-io
    @Romar-io 11 місяців тому

    To be honest this episode turned me off. It made me not want to watch anymore

  • @mattytroyer
    @mattytroyer 11 місяців тому

    This was such a waste of an episode.

  • @dremade3332
    @dremade3332 11 місяців тому

    The last two episodes sucked

  • @judson8441
    @judson8441 11 місяців тому +1

    I hated this and skipped most of it

  • @xSMOKExEMxALLx
    @xSMOKExEMxALLx 11 місяців тому +2

    Sorry the show is awful & I finally had to tap out this week! lol

    • @kadeyjames6193
      @kadeyjames6193 11 місяців тому +1

      You got one episode left... you might as well complete it and draw a line underneath 😅

    • @xSMOKExEMxALLx
      @xSMOKExEMxALLx 11 місяців тому

      I would but I couldn't even get through 15 mins of this ep. I don't care if they all die & no one finds the baby, I'm sorry.@@kadeyjames6193 😉🤟

  • @gvaletti
    @gvaletti 11 місяців тому

    I just noticed how BAD Adina Porter’s acting is in this series. She should not have a scene that long ever again.

  • @soundofmoosixsoundofmoosix7963
    @soundofmoosixsoundofmoosix7963 10 місяців тому

    I was so stoned during this episode I still have no idea what the hell i watched

  • @BFFwithCrystal
    @BFFwithCrystal 11 місяців тому +60

    This episode completely lost me or either it makes my brain hurt. I think it was put together eloquently but I constantly found myself lost trying to tie every little thing to the other episodes. But this is what I could gather: Brian was hella abusive, Is Brian really Apollo’s father? (I dont think so - Apollo is 100% black not bi-racial, now Emma on the other side is for sure bi-racial). So did Lillian get pregnant by her boss maybe before she and Brian got together, and thats the mistake? Does Brian THINK that Apollo is his or realizes that hes not and tries to drown him? Was Apollo really killed by Brian and Lillian made a deal w/ another world to exchange Apollo for a Changeling and indeed Apollo is a changeling?? Really Lost - but I love your review

    • @hulkmad27
      @hulkmad27 11 місяців тому +1

      how do you know Apollo is a hundred percent black? You can't know that, because some so-called bi-racial do not present as mixed or what you think mixed is. I look like Trevor Noah, but I'm not bi-racial, so what does that mean. I've seen biracials that look so called blacker than me, Jordan peele for instance, looks blacker than me and he is biracial. Most Americans, those of us form the slave trade are not 100 percent black at all, non of us even people that look really dark. You don't know who is a hundred percent anything unless you do a dna test, and i have so I know my make up, do you? Hell henry louis gates is bi racial with two so called black parents m, he has 47 percent European dna, you don't know who is a hundred percent anything by looking at them.

    • @brianthomason5022
      @brianthomason5022 11 місяців тому +4

      I don't think Apollo is a changeling because why would a fairy traded dead baby for a changeling they want a live baby because it's their favorite meal remember

    • @brianthomason5022
      @brianthomason5022 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@hulkmad27geez don't be racist

    • @BFFwithCrystal
      @BFFwithCrystal 11 місяців тому

      @@hulkmad27 are you ok? This is a review about a made up story from a show not a heritage lesson or dna representation documentary- calm down man. I see why your name is Hulk Mad damn!
      I said 100% as in being sure he was NOT Brian’s - you know what I’m not going to break down this or what I meant for you. That’s for a whole other subject, thread, and NON debate. Dude keep scrolling and respond else where
      Now back to the regular programming on breaking down this wonderful FAKE ASS fairytale show 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @BFFwithCrystal
      @BFFwithCrystal 11 місяців тому +1

      @@brianthomason5022 I need to start the whole series over and rewatch lol. Because everyone is talking about 🧚 fairies and trolls and all that and all I’ve heard mentioned was Changelings and Witches (which before this show I’d never even heard of a changeling)
      Ok so idk I guess I was thinking about how the mothers who make it to the island get there just for Cal to tell them that none of the mothers have found their REAL babies - so hell as a mom …. I’m sorry but if I knew my child was gone gone I would almost keep the changeling and try to raise it vs going through the trauma of killing a baby and still not getting my real baby back. Idk.
      But seriously I didnt even think about the fairies or whatever eating the babies - dang it my head hurts again. lol
      Thanks for the perspective- makes sense
      But wait then what the heck IS APOLLO ??

  • @Bigtwan123
    @Bigtwan123 11 місяців тому +39

    Man it was so drawn out so extra loved the actors in the cinematography but I was falling asleep 😂 hope next episode be clear

    • @Huios1000
      @Huios1000 11 місяців тому

      😂 same here

    • @funkay1
      @funkay1 11 місяців тому

      Totally agree, it was hard to concentrate

  • @L_B_M_LandDownUnder
    @L_B_M_LandDownUnder 11 місяців тому +19

    I felt like I was watching a different series during this episode and I miss the vibe from the first few episodes.

  • @tyizzle80
    @tyizzle80 11 місяців тому +50

    They could of did this episode un 15 minutes and dedicated the rest to either Apollo or Emma.

    • @mundumlai
      @mundumlai 11 місяців тому +1

      I know,I had to watch it in fast forward

    • @jujuakinlade
      @jujuakinlade 11 місяців тому

      But the backstory is just as important as what is about to happen next

    • @tyizzle80
      @tyizzle80 11 місяців тому

      they still could of did it in 15 minutes

    • @jujuakinlade
      @jujuakinlade 11 місяців тому

      @@tyizzle80I think the fact that there’s a season 2 there would need to be context that you’re obviously not supposed to know yet… isn’t that the point of a series

  • @zoemayne8918
    @zoemayne8918 11 місяців тому +11

    Does anyone else think the transgender person found in a sparkly dress might actually be Brian West. In the scene where Lillian was talking to the “devil” the narrator says the answer was in front of her the whole time and she went directly to the suitcase with the sparkly dress…

  • @rootypoots
    @rootypoots 11 місяців тому +22

    I like that this show takes big narrative gambles, but sometimes those gambles sure do make it a difficult watch. I loved episodes 4 and 5 most so far (and actually really loved episode 6, too) but this one was hard to decipher, and it’s hard to enjoy an episode that’s that cryptic. It felt like I was watching a latter-career Charlie Kaufman story, like Synecdoche NY, or I’m Thinking of Ending Things.
    Here’s hoping the finale returns to some of the more straightforward narrative style of past episodes.

    • @brianthomason5022
      @brianthomason5022 11 місяців тому

      I love 4 and 5 too .episode 6 focusing on Emma kind of sucked to me as well. Cuz it didn't really answer much for me but at least it did way more than this last episode..

    • @brianthomason5022
      @brianthomason5022 11 місяців тому

      Really sucks though that we only have one episode left and they had so much too cap up to the mysteries. I hope to God that this is a one-season series and all of the answers come in this next episode because if they slap us all in the face and leave us when a cliffhanger and we have to wait a year do anything else I'm going to be so disappointed in an Apple TV Plus

  • @nayb9773
    @nayb9773 11 місяців тому +62

    I noticed a few other things. When Lily originally signed her name in the hotel ledger, it wasn’t her real name. It didn’t say Lily Ann West. (Correct me if I’m wrong). It kinda looked like Cily Ann Lester. I believe the third male Lily killed is the TG with the donut in the gold dress that apparently didn’t have a name when found. Maybe Lily killed her and stole her identity before meeting Brian???? . Also, Anyone notice the flashback of lily and Brian having a picnic was on the exact island that Cal and the other women are currently on?? Brian even mentioned how they used to sneak the crazy patients to the Island using a secret route (same route Emma and Kim used when she flipped Emma off the boat? Or maybe the underground people that Emma met in the last episode?) Don’t think it’s an coincidence. Not to mention, Kim being shown in this episode having shown the same actions emma and their apparent mother had?? Mmmm Kim is like 13 years older than Emma. Maybe Kim is really Emma’s mom, not sister

    • @BL3SSed-Bliss
      @BL3SSed-Bliss 11 місяців тому +5

      Because of your comment, I returned to that ep and, at .25x speed, watched her write that name. It's hard to conclude certainly, but honestly, it just looks like a rounded L.
      However, revisiting that scene highlighted a detail I find curious and important: *_"Centuries_*_ of names in that book."_ 📖
      The Elk Hotel was *only in existence for 100 years.*

    • @KevinIsrael
      @KevinIsrael 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes! I thought the same thing when they said "centuries"@@BL3SSed-Bliss

  • @miissmarlene
    @miissmarlene 11 місяців тому +30

    Lilian made a deal with the monsters. That’s why they took baby Brian.

    • @mite1981
      @mite1981 11 місяців тому +4

      Exactly!

    • @mite1981
      @mite1981 11 місяців тому +5

      @@mathieubenoitmarcellussuch a profound interpretation, I think we filter with a victim mindset and this perspective gives a accountability mindset. So interesting

    • @CharliseMcCloud
      @CharliseMcCloud 11 місяців тому

      Yes that mirror scene is important

    • @abbestar3103
      @abbestar3103 11 місяців тому +4

      @@mathieubenoitmarcellus I don’t think Lillian is the monster and Brian was not a good man. (Good men don’t try to kill children) He was verbally abusive, we can see that during the picnic scene where he constantly reminds her she was a nobody with no family and if she went missing no one would know or care. Or how he told her if he couldn’t have her no one could. Additionally when he tried to kill Apollo him and Lillian were already broken up so there was no reason for him to even be at the house.

    • @CHAOS1997
      @CHAOS1997 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@abbestar3103
      Then she should've told Apollo that his daddy was the boss she was screwing,not his dad

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 11 місяців тому +11

    I thought the best part of this episode was the creature at the very end that you barely saw in the dark depths.

  • @ReinaBX
    @ReinaBX 11 місяців тому +11

    the affair bit is a major left turn from the novel and i havent fully digested if i liked it or not. otherwise, this episode (imo) was masterclass storytelling. Lilian's perspective. My goodness. Adina Porter did a phenomenal job in this episode as Lillian. Giver Ms. Porter her flowers!

    • @cionarouse6758
      @cionarouse6758 11 місяців тому

      I really felt intrigued by-not turned off by-this episode. It was so fascinating, and I’ve watched it three times. But my one complaint is that while the poetry of it feels powerful, the narrative storytelling feels like it bends imperfectly in too many directions. So I’m surprised by your calling it “masterful storytelling.” You’re the first comment I read to not express some frustration with how the story is being told. Do you think that reading the book and knowing where it’s going was helpful in your celebrating the storyline? Or do you feel like it mimics that part of the book well, and we’ll find our resolve as we continue reading (watching)?

  • @feet300
    @feet300 11 місяців тому +11

    Another point: they still haven’t addressed (at all) what the third wish was, exactly, but I’m guessing it’s the quest to become a wise woman herself? Which means seeing what others don’t, including the identity of the baby. Part of Brian’s attacks on Lily suggest if she steps out of line he could have her committed, and Apollo triggered Emma by suggesting she take “one of those pills” she has under wraps. So it seems like they’re going the direction of implying women are crazy (and taking their children away too soon) leads to actual madness that these men are responsible for?

    • @Apryll.
      @Apryll. 11 місяців тому

      it was a life of excitement, that was pretty obvious if you paid attention to the beginning

  • @koopstamc
    @koopstamc 11 місяців тому +5

    Filler episode 🙄

  • @joash3714
    @joash3714 11 місяців тому +2

    That Etta James cover and scene was so beautiful to look at. Anywho, im so confused now lol

  • @sevendayoptions6704
    @sevendayoptions6704 11 місяців тому +2

    This episode was sooo boring, couldn't finish it.

  • @Beyond_Overload
    @Beyond_Overload 11 місяців тому +7

    He didn’t die he somehow survived if you remember cal hit William in the head and he never died !

  • @fouchi3203
    @fouchi3203 11 місяців тому +8

    I enjoyed the show, then i watched this episode, then after 15-20min i was like fuck it i'm done with this fucking backstory that's so slow so i skipped forward a bit until i realised it was THE WHOLE FUCKING EPISODE, can't believe i just watched a filler episode in an actual show holy shit, who thought it would be a good a idea to spend a whole fucking hour on a backstory of a side character.
    This episode rating on imdb is 4~ and i swear it should be lower, i'm usually open minded to creative stuff, but i couldn't give a single fuck about the backstory, i wanted to hear about the troll, the creature, the witch, Apollo, Brian, anything related to the actual story i've been familiar to.
    Holy shit it was bad

  • @RooockKyy
    @RooockKyy 11 місяців тому +5

    the acting was incredible!! It moved me to tears!

  • @lilchopper100
    @lilchopper100 11 місяців тому +2

    Lots of time wasted to say Apollo isn’t that man’s son so he tried to kill him. It’s her boss’s son.

  • @kiwioutlaw
    @kiwioutlaw 11 місяців тому +7

    When she mentioned this was her first and only child, did she have another? It's weird how she said it. This show is so good.

    • @samgrimes7263
      @samgrimes7263 11 місяців тому +1

      I was wondering the same thing

  • @TheCloveart
    @TheCloveart 11 місяців тому +3

    This episode had way too much subtext. They overestimated the popularity of the book. I feel this would be easier to understand if we read the book first.

  • @StyleS_
    @StyleS_ 11 місяців тому +3

    I think Apollo might be half witch and half fairy and maybe the mom didn’t want Apollo seeing the dad is because he was a fairy because what in the world was that cartoon 😂 on the tv I was creeped out probably a stretch but I’m watching episode 7 now.

    • @614djmoney
      @614djmoney 11 місяців тому +1

      That cartoon is like movie or something I heard it’s real good but very trippy

  • @Trappsvmba
    @Trappsvmba 11 місяців тому +2

    Im done with this show. This is where I get off

  • @shannonelhartcounselor9582
    @shannonelhartcounselor9582 11 місяців тому +16

    I absolutely LOVED THIS EPISODE... for surprising reasons. I believe most of us are hiding deep deep emotional pain (shame, lack of worth, regret, anger, hopelessness, unforgiveness (for others but also self), a lack of belonging, etc), and this episode brought us deep deep into her psyche to really see how f*cked up some of her life, experiences, decisions, etc were. I was so sucked in. I could feeeeel her pain and so much empathy, too. I think all that 'pretending' we do, it leaves so much of that pain, even if it's 'only' a daily negative voice in your head, just sitting there.... in your subconscious, affecting your life in countless ways. It also hit me bc I am just barely making it through more than 3 years of deep depression and suicidal ideation (finally diagnosed with c-PTSD). Very grateful that I've found the right therapy and therapist, and I am working so hard to be well again, to finally love myself. But THIS EPISODE.... omg, it was so powerful for someone (myself) to feel this, see her perspective and the perspectives of others, to feeeeel their needs and brokenness, their fear, to bear witness... for some reason I felt more heard, less alone, like someone out in the world (the writer of this episode, perhaps?!) 'gets it'... they understand the darkness I've been trapped in for the past few years. And I know I'm not alone in that suffering... so many people in the world are hurting as I've been. This episode was terrifying, but I couldn't look away, and yet it gave me peace and hope. I was STUNNED afterward. Seriously just sat there soaking it in. Thank you for taking a leap to do something new. To not give us what we want or expect, but to give us what, perhaps, we need. Humanity needs such vulnerable honesty and compassion. We need to all heal 💞

    • @shannonelhartcounselor9582
      @shannonelhartcounselor9582 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm rewatching it LOL. Even at the start the narrator states, 'Lily Ann didn't need Apollo's forgiveness. She needed her own.'

  • @xczechr
    @xczechr 11 місяців тому +4

    This was a trippy episode for sure.

  • @jasonking971
    @jasonking971 11 місяців тому +3

    Was something in the water swimming after the suitcase that she threw in there? I havent seen any mention of it and i thought i saw something

    • @LaddRusso91
      @LaddRusso91 11 місяців тому +3

      There was

    • @jasonking971
      @jasonking971 11 місяців тому +2

      @@LaddRusso91 I thought so. I haven't seen any comments about it or any videos even mention it. Weird

  • @mrmoe110
    @mrmoe110 11 місяців тому +1

    You couldn’t PAY me to watch this episode again. There’s not one entertaining minute in the entire episode

  • @feet300
    @feet300 11 місяців тому +10

    I think the two names in the hotel ledger are meant to imply that Lillian *was* having an affair with her boss, and Brian catching her in the act was real - but she prefers not to remember it. Thus attempting to kill Apollo was retaliation for the affair.

    • @Francis-Kanja
      @Francis-Kanja 11 місяців тому

      Brian was using hot water to drown Apollo - hence the smoke on the floor. That is why the AIDS victim is in a bath. Apollo should have survived with massive burns at least, but he is perfectly fine as he grows up. Perhaps Apollo is the Changeling after all.

  • @SadPanda1978
    @SadPanda1978 11 місяців тому +4

    Good Easter eggs, but this episode could’ve been condensed tremendously. Decent series, but this one was really hard to get through.

  • @lunci1balunci55
    @lunci1balunci55 11 місяців тому +1

    horrible episode, it almost made me to quit watching that series

  • @christaylor4477
    @christaylor4477 11 місяців тому +1

    This whole show is drawn out with exit and is disappointing

  • @PlaymakersGaming007
    @PlaymakersGaming007 11 місяців тому +2

    What was the freaky thing in the water at the end of the episode ? Just wondering if anyone else caught that?

  • @brianthomason5022
    @brianthomason5022 11 місяців тому +1

    I hate it that this is the second to the last episode and they have completely wasted our time with crap we didn't need to see. They could have shown that she killed the man in 5 minutes and got back to the story about emma and the main character guy.. I didn't even like the episode that focus on Emma because it's so vague and doesn't give up any new information to this mystery how are they going to solve everything by 1 episode next Friday? Will they really stick it to/slapping the audience in the face and leave on a cliffhanger and then probably not even get renewed for a new season?. If we have to wait a whole year to understand more of what's going on I'm going to be so disappointed this should be a one-and-done series... . Is kindergarten a troll or not and did he interact with his mom in the past? I couldn't tell if that was him or not.. needless to say this last episode really annoyed and aggravated me.. slow paced with barely telling us anyting involved with the mystery. Other than the one reveal of her being a terrible cheater and murderer and horrible criminal that should be in prison.. . All the women in the show are batshit insane witches. Happy Halloween 👻

  • @beats995
    @beats995 11 місяців тому +2

    Just was sooo confused

  • @Welcome2Hopsville
    @Welcome2Hopsville 11 місяців тому +2

    They guy who was with Emma's sister is their father.

  • @Yeahmemike
    @Yeahmemike 11 місяців тому +11

    Worst episode yet! Tom Hanks got away with it in Castaway, but Adina Porter? Give me a break! 1.3K views and 87 Thumbs Up? Bring back the Thumbs Down view!!!

  • @dangerouskoala6611
    @dangerouskoala6611 11 місяців тому +2

    I read the book bc I couldn’t wait for answers and now watching the show I’m still confused

    • @ChoniMitchell
      @ChoniMitchell 11 місяців тому +4

      Well what happens in the book? Cause we only have one more episode and I don't know if I can handle another one like this

    • @Mads-vo3ic
      @Mads-vo3ic 11 місяців тому

      @@ChoniMitchell the next episode will make sense although it won’t be the finale. I’ve seen what the last episode is about and it’s nowhere near the end of the book!

  • @Qwerkycore
    @Qwerkycore 11 місяців тому +9

    I seriously thought the whole “if you have to eat a dog” thing was said twice because it meant that Lilian ATE him. 🙈 Lol Like literally cut him up, ate him, used the suitcase for his bones. 😭😂

    • @mite1981
      @mite1981 11 місяців тому +3

      Same hahah I pressed fast forward to avoid anything weird 😂

    • @kristingallo2158
      @kristingallo2158 11 місяців тому

      ​@@mite1981this entire show is weird. 😂

    • @mite1981
      @mite1981 11 місяців тому

      @@kristingallo2158 😅 like why are we even watching lol

    • @kristingallo2158
      @kristingallo2158 11 місяців тому

      @@mite1981 I'm actually laughing at you. But ok.

    • @AO-lq4zz
      @AO-lq4zz 11 місяців тому +3

      @@kristingallo2158you’re weird for that last comment 🤨

  • @kadeyjames6193
    @kadeyjames6193 11 місяців тому +1

    It reminded me of an episode from Room 104... literally came straight to this video after watching it in two parts (fell asleep in the first part) 😅

  • @pdfbrander
    @pdfbrander 11 місяців тому +1

    I found myself just losing interest in this episode. Came here to find out what happened. Did not finish the episode.

  • @Huios1000
    @Huios1000 11 місяців тому

    I enjoy the show but this episode was horrible. I wish they didn’t make it.

  • @MzShaybutta
    @MzShaybutta 11 місяців тому +4

    I loved this episode, it clearly was a filler episode, however it answered some questions for me. One, now i understand why Apollo kept having nightmares of smoke when it came to his father. He tried to drown him. Two: Brian is definitely not Apollo' s father which makes sense, because he doesnt look mixed whatsoever. Three: Lilian made a deal with whatever that thing is, as it took on the manifestation of her older self. She thought it was God, it may be a God, but not in the Christian sense, or it was the devil. Four: it took the baby as payment. Five: Emma is possessed with whatever entity the blue eyed lady is. I think she's the protagonist of whatever that river spirit/God is. The red string binded her until she was needed. Thats all i got.😅

  • @tonyareed5083
    @tonyareed5083 11 місяців тому

    Sooo... Lillian feels sad because she forfeited her DREAM LIFE of becoming a Lounge Singer? 🤣🤣🤣 Lord. This Episode made ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!

  • @ethelyolande
    @ethelyolande 4 місяці тому

    This episode really just doesn't make sense to me, cuz even though i undestood what was going on, what is saying just cleary distorts other mysteries we seemed to have already solved 😩😩😩

  • @mundumlai
    @mundumlai 11 місяців тому

    One of the most boring episode it didnt need a whole 40mins n above..i felt disappointed for watching it in fast forward knowing you'll do a breakdown

  • @luganojackson5977
    @luganojackson5977 5 місяців тому

    damn, this episode had me feeling like i was back in maths class...damn

  • @LakeTahoeGem
    @LakeTahoeGem 11 місяців тому

    It's fun guessing since you didn't read the book. I didn't either

  • @dylanmackinnon8381
    @dylanmackinnon8381 11 місяців тому

    What an infuriating filler episode

  • @mite1981
    @mite1981 11 місяців тому +12

    This episode was EPIC! I thought it was such a phenomenal art form, explains the curse in such a theatrical way. I couldn’t stop watching I might eve re watch it.

    • @chocalechevux804
      @chocalechevux804 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree, loved this episode

    • @CHAOS1997
      @CHAOS1997 11 місяців тому +1

      It was trash
      Filler episode

  • @mycollegeshirt
    @mycollegeshirt 11 місяців тому

    I thought it was slow, confusing, and a bit self-indulgent. At the same time oddly predictable. worst of all worlds. The acting and directing however were extremely well done. It felt like they were pulling a script out of the gutter, and they had to stall for time. The ending however I found very satisfying.

  • @Tashhtalk
    @Tashhtalk 11 місяців тому

    I’m upset that this is the longest episode and the biggest waste of time. The final episode is only 29 mins, not enough time to answer all the questions I have.

    • @jujuakinlade
      @jujuakinlade 11 місяців тому

      I think that’s what season 2 is for

  • @Schauk
    @Schauk 11 місяців тому

    You are fantastic! Thank you, it now makes way more sense to me...

  • @risingisis7813
    @risingisis7813 10 місяців тому

    This episode completely confused me. I think it should have been placed earlier in the season. I like the idea of Lily Ann's mistake was that Apollo was a changeling. We haven't seen an adult changeling in the series. This idea would change the entire premise about Emma's journey and her wishes. I'm so grateful for the episode breakdowns. Thank you.