Nice Review, thank you for that. What I want to mention is, that the Grayl is not just more expensive because you get more for your money. The Bachgold Filter is filtering biological threats and that's it. Grayl is doing this a bit better, because the filter is a bit finer. But also, and that is the great plus for the Grayl, it filters also chemical threats like salts or heavy metal. If you go deep into the wild, you probably won't need such a filter, but if you live (like me) in a country in which pretty much every square meter is in use for agriculture or part of a settlement, then you might need some extra precaution. In these kind of scenario, the Grayl is the better option,at least in my opinion.
I have 3 Grayls in different backpacks and some straws in "haversacks" and I love that stuff! And yes, the Grayl has membrane filter (for pathogens like bacteria, virus and protozoa) and a CARBON filter (that's for chemicals, bad taste etc) Although a couple of my filtering straws are just membrane filters, it might be an issue with people that is not so knowledgeable about the matter and might get poisoned because of assuming that the basic filter is"ok" for any condition.
@@1I2am3Dani4 The difference is that Grayl uses a special kind of charcoal filter that is ion charged. To keep it really simple the charcoal filter absorbs bacteria and viruses, as well as chemicals. Normal charcoal will only remove taste and some types of chemicals while the Grayl specifically removes most chemicals. A good example of how well this works is fluoride, since fluoride dissolves totally in water and is very hard to remove. Most filters, even ones with multiple charcoal stages, won't effect the fluoride content of the water - the Grayl will to an extent. The Grayl isn't rated for fluoride but there were a few tests floating around showing it took out 33-50% of the fluoride in test samples meaning that it's removing even heavily dissolved chemicals from the water. Usually just effecting fluoride requires some serious purification setups so the fact it can do anything is pretty boggling. Tl;Dr a lot of filters have charcoal stages but grayl uses a special formula or something that makes theirs head and shoulders above the rest which is also why the filters don't last very long compared to other brands. They're made for exceptionally bad water you would never drink with most other filters. It's specifically why they market it as a purifier and not a filter.
Great review, I to like you shy'd away from the grayl because of price and usage. This is awesome, I will be ordering one. Thanks again, great to see you back.
Great to see you back creating content. I've used the Grayl since 2020 on backpack trips as my primary filter system. Overall it's been awesome, except for the filter life. I'm in the Oregon Cascades, mostly clear water sources, yet the filters don't last all that long and do NOT store well over the off-season. I've been hoping to see other viable options in this style of filter system. Thanks for the demo!
Perfect timing. Got my YT back up on this phone and you drop a review. Been waiting for an alternative for the other . Definitely have my attention. It may even make the other adjust their prices to a better point . Glad you and the family are doing well. Have a great afternoon brother
Good to see you out in the sticks again good sir! I shall have a look and see the availability here in the UK. Could be a good Crimbo present to myself 😉👍🏼
Hey Jess, thanks for the review. I was considering a Grayl and haven't pulled the trigger yet. Now I have a better less expensive option! didn't know about this one. Really appreciate it. Thank you. 👍
I purchased my grail a few years back when they first showed up, It is and was expensive at the time but I have definitely got my money worth out of it and I'm only on my second filter. I can see them redesigning the filter as the actual bottle itself is solid. If I was in the market right now it would be hard to pick a grail over this. Thanks Jess.
saw amazon review about the GRAYL. there was so many problems with it. where it failed on a trip of some people vacations. and that was a big no on my part. ill be taking a look into this one. swedes are always making nice stuff.
Looks pretty darn good and the price can't be beat considering the gallons of water it can process. The price of the replacement filter is also attractive. The Grayl is way over priced as are the replacement filiters. I carry a Nalgene bottle on a carabiner and a Katadyn Vario in my pack when I am hiking or hunting. I lucked out and picked it up while it was on sale for $60...they are now over $100. The ceramic disc runs about $20. I have used the Grayl and find when filtering high silicate water, which most of our streams are, you almost have to stand on it after one or two fills. I see Nalgene now makes a filter bottle as well but the water has to be sucked throuvh the filter which I find to be difficult and unfulfilling when you can just chug some H20. Good review.
I use the Grayl all time, it’s great. The GRAYL is better filter. It filters much more than the BachGold. Thats why BachGold filters more water it’s not a fine purifier filter like GRAYL is. Yes GRAYL is expensive, but it works damn good. I take it all over the world. Use it from airports, hotel faucets, to on trail streams.
Love the KLMK! I use the Sawyer Squeeze kit as I fill up a pair of USGI quart canteens but this looks more convenient, particularly if you're on the go. Keep up it good work!
I came for the review of the bottle now I'm wondering where you got your outfit from? I'm curious where you got your outfit from mate, great video though on the water filter I'm going to have to look at getting one for myself
Thanks my friend. It’s an FSB suit from Russian Cold Camo. I got it before all the Ukraine stuff started. Unfortunately, the sanctions have put RCC out of business. They were a small family owned business in the US.
👍👍👍 Hi Jess .. thats a good one. Thanks for giving us out here another option. I have always thought the Grayl to be somewhat overpriced, considering the amount of water per filter unit. Swiss? Odds are that the quality will be there. Living here, I can vouch from own experience, that the Swiss tend to take workmanship and quality seriously. Pre-filtering .. a good habit to get into, irrespective of the perceived quality of the water source. Rinsing out a filter cloth is worth the effort if it can extend filter cycles. Thanks for sharing .. take care .. Tommy
Really cool stuff for survival Jess.. I've never used one like this and I'm wondering if it can make the dark peaty swamp water I usually drink crystal clear🤔
Just received one and spare filter. Question is have you tried or can you put drink flavors or electrolytes directly into the water in the container. Hope that makes sence. Thanks. Great review. 👍
no, it is not! The Bachgold is just a "membrane filter", good enough for bacteria, protozoa and viruses! The Grayl has a membrane and charcoal filter, wich makes it suitable for bacteria, protozoa and viruses AND CHEMICALS, POISONS, HEAVY METALS, POLLUTANTS etc. If you live in an area which is "pristine" the Bachgold might be ok... If you treck in an area where there is minning, industrial agriculture with lots of fertilizers, pesticides etc...then the Grayl is your only safe option!
Greetings Jess- Ive been putting off buying a Grayl because of the cost, but it looks like this one should work just fine and Im going to look into it. Good review and glad to hear you and yours are doing good and working on the homestead. I was wondering where you got that shirt at? Well, you guys be safe up there and keep them videos going when you can.
Hey Mike! Thank you! The shirt/suit is the FSB suit from Russian Cold Camo. Great for hot weather. It is like an an athletic type material, similar to basketball shorts with the holes in it for ventilation. Have a good one!
GRAYL is a better filter, in that it filters more, such as chemicals. But hopefully GRAYL will lower the price of their replacement filters in response, IMO they have milked it on the price point long enough, by now economies of scale should have kicked in and the price come down.
Thanks for the review ... being Swiss I tried to buy one immediately. But Amazon Germany claim they don't have any ( that usually just means they are not allowed to sell into Switzerland ) and the company's own website also only sells into Germany. Frustrating! The Grayl Filter seems to be a good product, but the cost per liter filtered is very high when compared to other products. That has stopped me from buying one. I've been using the Catadyn BeFree and HydroBlu Versa Flow water filters, but they are about spent, after about 5 years of usage, and need to be replaced.
I don’t think it does. It is rated for bacteria and organic matter. Those little Sawyer filters are good. Don’t let them freeze, run clean water back through them periodically after use, and they last a long time.
Wow, that is interesting. Haven’t heard anything from them about it, but Brita water filters were just banned as well. Water is life. Make sure you have something. I like Sawyer.
@@EnduranceRoom Yeah, Sawyer rocks, and the beFree for some use. I got a grayl but considering it's low total usage per cartridge, I'm saving it for my emergency kit or more questionable water. Fortunately, I live near Yellowstone so the contaminants are very much more likely to be the back country types of natural source. No mine runoff, no real agriculture and certainly no chemical plants. I also got an interesting piece of gear you might want to check out..... a way to tell when your water is safe via pasteurization rather then boiling. Interesting to read up on. Sunflair WAPI water pasteurization indicators. Killing all the bugs with lower heat for a longer time so less fuel than boiling. Even some good sunshine can work. Thanks for the great videos!
@@markdaddario1941 Honestly, the primary concern is what is being sprayed above. It doesn’t matter if we are in back country mountains, it is everywhere. Boiling isn’t sufficient anymore other than emergency. Distilling is probably one of the best solutions available.
This filter is not equal to the Grayl since it does not take out viruses (and likely other contaminants). Thus the filter life difference. Choose the one that meets your needs, but don’t assume they are the same.
@@EnduranceRoom Are you unaware of the differences between a filter and a purifier?Also Grayl have an English website with published results bachgold have no English website or any published results.Grayl even have a 1 way valve which can take mixes. Bachgold is not even in same league
It depends on usage and care. Needs to be dried out after using it, prior to storage. If you use it regularly, maybe once a year. If you are only using it here and there, and store it properly, it should last a long time.
Thanks for watching. Check out the filter here: a.co/d/anUA6d7
Hi ,thanks for another excellent video . Could you post a link to the shirt,trousers and hat you're wearing please ?
Much appreciated sir...
@@davidjacobs828 Thank you! It is the FSB suit and boonie hat from www.russiancoldcamo.com
@@EnduranceRoomexcept one is a purifier and one is a filter. Grayl does viruses
Nice Review, thank you for that. What I want to mention is, that the Grayl is not just more expensive because you get more for your money. The Bachgold Filter is filtering biological threats and that's it. Grayl is doing this a bit better, because the filter is a bit finer. But also, and that is the great plus for the Grayl, it filters also chemical threats like salts or heavy metal. If you go deep into the wild, you probably won't need such a filter, but if you live (like me) in a country in which pretty much every square meter is in use for agriculture or part of a settlement, then you might need some extra precaution. In these kind of scenario, the Grayl is the better option,at least in my opinion.
Thank you. Definitely important points to consider, especially these days.
I have 3 Grayls in different backpacks and some straws in "haversacks" and I love that stuff!
And yes, the Grayl has membrane filter (for pathogens like bacteria, virus and protozoa) and a CARBON filter (that's for chemicals, bad taste etc)
Although a couple of my filtering straws are just membrane filters, it might be an issue with people that is not so knowledgeable about the matter and might get poisoned because of assuming that the basic filter is"ok" for any condition.
Nothing about it is nice. He didn't even show the water after filtration. I bet he didn't even drink it, as there's montage at every step.
@@GAUROCH2 Doesn't the Bachgold also feature a carbon filter stage?
@@1I2am3Dani4 The difference is that Grayl uses a special kind of charcoal filter that is ion charged. To keep it really simple the charcoal filter absorbs bacteria and viruses, as well as chemicals. Normal charcoal will only remove taste and some types of chemicals while the Grayl specifically removes most chemicals. A good example of how well this works is fluoride, since fluoride dissolves totally in water and is very hard to remove. Most filters, even ones with multiple charcoal stages, won't effect the fluoride content of the water - the Grayl will to an extent. The Grayl isn't rated for fluoride but there were a few tests floating around showing it took out 33-50% of the fluoride in test samples meaning that it's removing even heavily dissolved chemicals from the water. Usually just effecting fluoride requires some serious purification setups so the fact it can do anything is pretty boggling.
Tl;Dr a lot of filters have charcoal stages but grayl uses a special formula or something that makes theirs head and shoulders above the rest which is also why the filters don't last very long compared to other brands. They're made for exceptionally bad water you would never drink with most other filters. It's specifically why they market it as a purifier and not a filter.
Great review, I to like you shy'd away from the grayl because of price and usage. This is awesome, I will be ordering one. Thanks again, great to see you back.
Great to see you back creating content. I've used the Grayl since 2020 on backpack trips as my primary filter system. Overall it's been awesome, except for the filter life. I'm in the Oregon Cascades, mostly clear water sources, yet the filters don't last all that long and do NOT store well over the off-season. I've been hoping to see other viable options in this style of filter system. Thanks for the demo!
Thanks Jim. Appreciate the feedback, too. 🤝
Thanks Jess for the amazing review on the Bachgold Water Filter..! ❤🖖
Excellent review, Jess. Thanks for sharing. Nice seeing you back as well. Best Regards.
As of writing this comment, Amazon has these water filters for $47. A great time to scoop one up! Great review man!
Right now they are $29 on Amazon
Thanks for the review. I'll Definitely look into this as the Grayl was out of my Price range.
Always look forward to your videos. Awesome setting
Glad to hear all is well. TAKE CARE..
Thank you 🤝
Perfect timing. Got my YT back up on this phone and you drop a review. Been waiting for an alternative for the other . Definitely have my attention. It may even make the other adjust their prices to a better point . Glad you and the family are doing well. Have a great afternoon brother
Thanks brother. Appreciate it. It is nice to be back at it. Have a good one! 🤝
It is awesome to see your videos again
it seems to be a real alternative to the grayl! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 THX
Glad you are doing well!! We missed you!
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing. I never bought the grays because of the price. So I bough this one 👍
Buying one today, and thank you!!!
Good to see you out in the sticks again good sir!
I shall have a look and see the availability here in the UK. Could be a good Crimbo present to myself 😉👍🏼
That is a very sweet sounding water filter Brother !
Hey Jess, thanks for the review. I was considering a Grayl and haven't pulled the trigger yet. Now I have a better less expensive option! didn't know about this one. Really appreciate it. Thank you. 👍
Thanks Jeff! Have a good one! 🤝
Great review mate. Good to see you again. Cheers.
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Good to see you again brother. Dig the camo 👌
I purchased my grail a few years back when they first showed up, It is and was expensive at the time but I have definitely got my money worth out of it and I'm only on my second filter. I can see them redesigning the filter as the actual bottle itself is solid. If I was in the market right now it would be hard to pick a grail over this. Thanks Jess.
Thanks Will. Appreciate the feedback. Cheers
saw amazon review about the GRAYL. there was so many problems with it. where it failed on a trip of some people vacations. and that was a big no on my part. ill be taking a look into this one. swedes are always making nice stuff.
Nice alternative to the grayl. Thank!
Looks good jesse..and chip to can bet that..nice look out jesse
This is exactly what I needed, thank you!!
Glad it helped!
Looks pretty darn good and the price can't be beat considering the gallons of water it can process. The price of the replacement filter is also attractive. The Grayl is way over priced as are the replacement filiters. I carry a Nalgene bottle on a carabiner and a Katadyn Vario in my pack when I am hiking or hunting. I lucked out and picked it up while it was on sale for $60...they are now over $100. The ceramic disc runs about $20. I have used the Grayl and find when filtering high silicate water, which most of our streams are, you almost have to stand on it after one or two fills. I see Nalgene now makes a filter bottle as well but the water has to be sucked throuvh the filter which I find to be difficult and unfulfilling when you can just chug some H20. Good review.
Thanks for info and feedback. Appreciate it. Clean water is key, but the slow filtration of some systems is definitely a bit off putting.
I use the Grayl all time, it’s great. The GRAYL is better filter. It filters much more than the BachGold. Thats why BachGold filters more water it’s not a fine purifier filter like GRAYL is. Yes GRAYL is expensive, but it works damn good. I take it all over the world. Use it from airports, hotel faucets, to on trail streams.
Thanks for this, I have a Grayl and wanted a second but can't afford it. This looks to be a more affordable option.
Love the KLMK! I use the Sawyer Squeeze kit as I fill up a pair of USGI quart canteens but this looks more convenient, particularly if you're on the go. Keep up it good work!
Cool find, thanks for the review
Awesome review. Just bought it. Thanks!
I got mine for $25. I believe it has been clearanced. It's not on Amazon anymore shortly after I bought mine.
Added to my cart 😂 thanks again brotha!!✌️💚✊️🔥
Just binged watched your videos pretty cool.just subscribed too your channel looking forward to lots more
Welcome aboard! 🤝
I love mine, but I'm having a hell of a time getting the sleeve out when I need to fill it. I know it needs to be snug, but wow
@@tracyrenfro8619 Yes, it is definitely snug. Try rotating the sleeve. It seems to work better than pulling straight.
@EnduranceRoom That does make it easier. I guess I'll be building my hand strength some more 💪
Great review! Glad all is well, family first dude.
Cheers
Thanks brother. 100% 🤝
I came for the review of the bottle now I'm wondering where you got your outfit from? I'm curious where you got your outfit from mate, great video though on the water filter I'm going to have to look at getting one for myself
Thanks my friend. It’s an FSB suit from Russian Cold Camo. I got it before all the Ukraine stuff started. Unfortunately, the sanctions have put RCC out of business. They were a small family owned business in the US.
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Hi Jess .. thats a good one. Thanks for giving us out here another option.
I have always thought the Grayl to be somewhat overpriced, considering the amount of water per filter unit.
Swiss? Odds are that the quality will be there. Living here, I can vouch from own experience, that the Swiss tend to take workmanship and quality seriously.
Pre-filtering .. a good habit to get into, irrespective of the perceived quality of the water source. Rinsing out a filter cloth is worth the effort if it can extend filter cycles.
Thanks for sharing .. take care .. Tommy
Thanks Tommy! Appreciate it my friend. Have a good one 🤝
@@EnduranceRoom 👍
Really cool stuff for survival Jess.. I've never used one like this and I'm wondering if it can make the dark peaty swamp water I usually drink crystal clear🤔
Thanks Alex! It cleans up my water nicely. It is brown/green here, with a lot on tannins from the pines. Smooth and clear after filtering.
@@EnduranceRoom Thank You Jess👍🏻
That definitely looks like a viable alternative to a Grayl.
Thanks Jess. Definitely seems like more bang for your buck.
Nate
Just received one and spare filter. Question is have you tried or can you put drink flavors or electrolytes directly into the water in the container. Hope that makes sence. Thanks. Great review. 👍
Also probably would not have purchased if they made it know it's made in china. They lead you to believe it's made in the Switzerland 🇨🇭 . Bummer.
THANKS GOOD JOB
Cool filter, way better than the Grayl
no, it is not!
The Bachgold is just a "membrane filter", good enough for bacteria, protozoa and viruses!
The Grayl has a membrane and charcoal filter, wich makes it suitable for bacteria, protozoa and viruses AND CHEMICALS, POISONS, HEAVY METALS, POLLUTANTS etc.
If you live in an area which is "pristine" the Bachgold might be ok...
If you treck in an area where there is minning, industrial agriculture with lots of fertilizers, pesticides etc...then the Grayl is your only safe option!
Greetings Jess- Ive been putting off buying a Grayl because of the cost, but it looks like this one should work just fine and Im going to look into it. Good review and glad to hear you and yours are doing good and working on the homestead. I was wondering where you got that shirt at? Well, you guys be safe up there and keep them videos going when you can.
Hey Mike! Thank you! The shirt/suit is the FSB suit from Russian Cold Camo. Great for hot weather. It is like an an athletic type material, similar to basketball shorts with the holes in it for ventilation. Have a good one!
@@EnduranceRoom Thanks- yeah- looks like it breaths pretty good-
GRAYL is a better filter, in that it filters more, such as chemicals. But hopefully GRAYL will lower the price of their replacement filters in response, IMO they have milked it on the price point long enough, by now economies of scale should have kicked in and the price come down.
Thanks for the review ... being Swiss I tried to buy one immediately.
But Amazon Germany claim they don't have any ( that usually just means they are not allowed to sell into Switzerland ) and the company's own website also only sells into Germany.
Frustrating!
The Grayl Filter seems to be a good product, but the cost per liter filtered is very high when compared to other products. That has stopped me from buying one.
I've been using the Catadyn BeFree and HydroBlu Versa Flow water filters, but they are about spent, after about 5 years of usage, and need to be replaced.
Thanks Alexander. I am not sure what is up with the shipping. Definitely sounds frustrating. 5 years out of the catadyne is great though.
No info on amazon or the web on what this actually filters out unlike grayl which is easy to find.
Never thought the grayl was a good option for price and amount it filters is a HARD NO!! I'll check this out for sure✌️💚✊️🔥
Heck, yeah, I just bought one-off Amazon and it comes with 2 extra filters, and it's still cheaper than the grahyl
How has it worked, ordered one and it should be here today!
Serious question does the bachgold filter viruses and chemicals like the grayl?
I don’t think it does. It is rated for bacteria and organic matter. Those little Sawyer filters are good. Don’t let them freeze, run clean water back through them periodically after use, and they last a long time.
For some reason it's no longer available on Amazon. Any idea why?
Wow, that is interesting. Haven’t heard anything from them about it, but Brita water filters were just banned as well. Water is life. Make sure you have something. I like Sawyer.
@@EnduranceRoom Yeah, Sawyer rocks, and the beFree for some use. I got a grayl but considering it's low total usage per cartridge, I'm saving it for my emergency kit or more questionable water. Fortunately, I live near Yellowstone so the contaminants are very much more likely to be the back country types of natural source. No mine runoff, no real agriculture and certainly no chemical plants. I also got an interesting piece of gear you might want to check out..... a way to tell when your water is safe via pasteurization rather then boiling. Interesting to read up on. Sunflair WAPI water pasteurization indicators. Killing all the bugs with lower heat for a longer time so less fuel than boiling. Even some good sunshine can work. Thanks for the great videos!
@@markdaddario1941 Honestly, the primary concern is what is being sprayed above. It doesn’t matter if we are in back country mountains, it is everywhere. Boiling isn’t sufficient anymore other than emergency. Distilling is probably one of the best solutions available.
Are the filters as good as the Grayl? I cannot find any information on them. Thanks
It has a different filtration that is not as fine as the grayl. It is rated only for biological contaminates, not chemical.
Cool, thanks. Could you screw a Grayl filter one into one of these?@@EnduranceRoom
@@andrewvillavicencio8496 I don’t know if that would work or not. That would be cool.
Agreed. I know from personal experience that the Aquarain and Big Berkey gravity water filters are interchangeable. Maybe these? Hmmm@@EnduranceRoom
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This filter is not equal to the Grayl since it does not take out viruses (and likely other contaminants). Thus the filter life difference. Choose the one that meets your needs, but don’t assume they are the same.
Where are their experiments? Where is their data? Just because they say it does something, don’t assume it to be true.
Does it remove viruses?
@@johnmbrown6627 I don’t think so... But FWiW, I don’t think the Grayl does either. They’re just making money off claiming that it does.
@@EnduranceRoom Luckily we don't have a lot of those is this country . is the new filter available here yet?
@@johnmbrown6627 I don’t know. I haven’t been in touch with them in awhile.
Can't really compare the 2. One is just a filter the other is a purifier
You pay for what you get
@@chefgav1 They’re really not that different. But hey, use what you like.
@@EnduranceRoom Are you unaware of the differences between a filter and a purifier?Also Grayl have an English website with published results bachgold have no English website or any published results.Grayl even have a 1 way valve which can take mixes. Bachgold is not even in same league
@@chefgav1 I am aware people say all kinds of things to make money. Enjoy your grayl.
Drawbacks for both, how do you keep track of fills and know when to change filter?
It depends on usage and care. Needs to be dried out after using it, prior to storage. If you use it regularly, maybe once a year. If you are only using it here and there, and store it properly, it should last a long time.
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