Really like it when Tim shares his knowledge with us! I do like that you have chosen specializations and join together to care for your land, your forest, your animals, your families and that you're sharing this with us. Thanks for another great video!
Stihl all the way baby.... +hard knocks forge... no offense bru, but your brother being born early, still doesnt out compete you being dropped as an infant... LOL... Stihl all the way!!!!
I took the same courses here in Canada 22 years ago except the arborist or tree climbing part. I've always been Husqvarna all the way, chainsaws, mowers, clearing saws etc love my Husqis
I have had the 2007 model entry-level Husqvarna 142e for about, well, 10 years now. I've had to replace the muffler ($12 generic), the fuel line ($2), and when the bar wore out I replaced it with a plain old generic Oregon 16" bar (generic S56 chains fit perfectly). It leaks a little oil, but otherwise it runs like an absolute champ and has been 100% reliable. I store it outside (but out of rain), and I even ran it with no muffler for a season because I was too lazy to get a new one. It must have 200 hours on it and it's showing no signs of quitting. As long as I pour out the fuel and run it dry before storing it starts on the first or second starting pull every time. I've never used a Stihl, and I'm sure they're great, but when this one dies I'll be sticking with "Husky" for sure. If my tools can stand up to the horrible way I care for them, they earn my loyalty.
In my limited experience of using chainsaws and talking to other users, a lot of the choice stems from what you done your certification on. I used Stihl for my training and that is my goto saw. A very informative video and good to see Tim actually smiled once!!!
I'm always impressed by your (and your brother's) English -- especially vocabulary, even idioms and slang. I could never speak a second language so well.
The only big advancement in chainsaws has been fuel efficiency and less bar oil usage for environmental concern. I’ve owned Stihl saws since the early ’90’s and have all my fathers 1960-1980 Homelite and Stihl saws. My favorite saw remains to be the Stihl 200T. I also own a 201T. I think that’s the last saw made in Germany. All others are assembled elsewhere. I own an 880 Magnum and it doesn’t cut better/faster then a 261 for a lot less money. In fact, my fathers old Homelite’s seem have double the torque then any new magnum, but use a ton of fuel and spit oil all over the place. In terms of safety, I guess the chain quick stop would be the most significant safety advancement... but that’s a manual operated feature.
I am a Jonsered fan and i have 4 of them all the way up to the 2188-90cc, but when it comes to a top handle-saw i go for Echo. I think they have the best ergonomics. Love your videos. All the best from Norway and Stay safe.
Ha Ha, which chainsaw is best is as we say in the UK opening a can of worms:-) When I worked for other people and used the saws they supplied I used Husqvarna and Stihl, MS201, MS200, MS881 and 540TX, 576XP etc, I never had a problem with any of them. As I'm now self employed and use my own saws I choose Echo, 2 reasons really, 1. I have my late fathers 1975 Echo CS-701 which still works and 2. Echo were offering a 2 year warranty for commercial /professional use (5 years for domestic/homeowner) Echo as you may know are a Japanese company who built their first saw in 1967, like Husqvarna/Jonsered the parent company Kioritz also make the virtually identical but different colour Shindiawa saws. Echo don't have as large a range as Stihl or Husqvarna, some of them are a little less powerful or a little heavier than some Stihl or Husqvarna, some are a little lighter, some a little more powerful, nothing really significant. I also use bars by Sugi-Hara, another Japanese company and one which actually supplies the bars for most of the Echo range, with that I use mainly Oregon chains. The ones I have are the CS-450 (45cc) CS-501 (50cc), CS-8002 (80cc) and CS-360TES which is a top handle saw. If I was buying another it would be the CS-620 (60cc). The CS-8002 is a pretty old design and is quite heavy and less powerful than Husqvarna or Stihl more recent 80cc saws. Many people get very defensive about their choice of saw, in my view the best saw is the one that always starts easily, has a sharp chain and that you're happy with :-)
Thanks, yeah don't get me wrong, regardless of which saws someone chooses I want them to be as enthusiastic about them as I am about my choices. Just as long as they don't get caught in the trap of needing to validate their own choice by demeaning the choices of others, that's schoolyard mentality. Be careful out there :-)
Thanks, not much on my channel, when I'm working I rarely have time to video stuff and I don't consider myself as good enough to advise others, they're are plenty of highly accomplished treeworkers on UA-cam, Reg Coates is one I hold in high regard.
I know what you mean about idiots not knowing how to work or look after there saws, wrong fuel mix , or no mix at all, biggest problems . They should buy these cheap Chinese things instead if they want a hobby saw, but hey everyone want to be seen with the best, ha ha take care. Charlie T.
I should add... I think the Swedes excel in Forestry. I don’t know why, but there seems to be a lot of great new technology in accessories and clothing to support the industry. On a slightly separate note, I own a bunch of Gransfors Bruk axes and they’re the nicest I have ever swang. I am a customer of there’s for life!
I've got an old 1984 jonny 820, and a Stihl 025. Had a 394xp and 372xp. All great saws, though the 372 was probably my favorite, I like the setup I have now. The 820 is a beast, but heavy. The 025 goes with me in the pickup everywhere. Great videos guys. Always nice to see family working together graciously.
Thank you for putting these videos up, they are very useful for a newbie like me. My wife and family are Finnish, and I think all started using chainsaws by the age of, oh about 3, but it's all new to me ;)
Stihl vs Husqvarna has to be biggest debate. I have heard support and opponents of both. Generally where I live they are both known to be good saws, But the Husky is reputed to be more finicky to keep running well, as I've seen demonstrated with with a couple of different models. -Real accurate and unbiased comparison is rare. I would like to know more actual mechanical differences. Thank you.
Tim must be the most humble person on all of UA-cam. I think hes great and I really appreciate that he shares his knowledge and experience with us. Please share this comment with him! For me I like Husqvarna and Dolmar saws the best. Stihl is nice but I have trouble buying parts online for them at times. Thanks for the video.
Appreciate the pronunciation guidance. Who would have thought "john-sir- ed" is actually pronounced "u-en-sidea". Can't wait to show my "street cred" or should I say" forest cred" when I next visit my local shop. As for the two orange machines, I have both but prefer the Stihl as it starts easier which for most infrequent users is an important factor. No fun struggling to start the damn thing. Because Huskies are now sold in "big Box Stores" in the US, some say the quality has gone down for those models. Stihls are sold in independent stores that are typically very well run.
Moorhuhn in the background. Brilliant. Also: Try out the Stihl Chains. In my Experience they keep their sharpness much better than the ones from Oregon. They really are worth the extra money. Just make sure you buy the 1,5mm version for your Husqvarnas and the Oregon bars.
Hope that's a 200t in the back! My most used saw at the moment is a ms362, nice collection Tim. I enjoy seeing the various PPE you have aswell, maybe include that in the next video? Great job you two keep it up.
I choose Stihl because we have a good local dealer. I think both are great saws. I have had one of my Stihls for 22 years, even ran it over with a tractor which buried it in the mud, but it still works fine, just got a new 362c with 18” bar, for hard woods this a great saw, lighter than my older 341which I still use for felling, the 362 I use for firewooding as its lighter. What I have noticed between the two makes is Husqvarna does probably make better anti kick chain, they invented the special guard link. Also they supply a superior felling bar which is made of cast rather than my Stihl steel bar which has welds and is in a state of rust. So who makes the better saw? I think it’s like a choice between Toyota and Volkswagen. But Husqvarna have some better accessories and while Stihl make excellent chain, Husqvarna has the better anti kick chain.
Video right on time. I just got a brand new MS 261 today and I can tell that it rolls even on sticky pine wood. Keep on these nice informative videos gays.
The angled handle is supposed to be a safety feature. With kickback a straight handle tends to aim the bar at your face. The angled handle pushes the bar away from your face.
Speaking of old chainsaws... my dad has an old Echo (idk if you guys have them in Sweden but if not, they’re solid machines. Used to be tanks). It’s gotta be an 87 or older cuz that’s the last year of that saw and it doesn’t have a chain brake on it. Just a hand guard. It’s a monster though. Like I said, can’t be newer than 1987 and it rips through everything.
Hi, wondering if you would consider doing a few videos on axes. You could cover off lots of topics including safety, how-to and maintenance and maybe even a tour of a local quality Swedish axe maker. I have a Wetterlings and would love to learn more about using it better. Great videos by the way! Steve from Canada
Between the Husky and the Stihl I think they are very similar on quality, what my determining factor has always been is the quality of the local chainsaw shop, if you have a good shop and they sell Husky, buy a Husky. You can add Tanaka to the list of good saws, their parent company is Hitachi. Cheers!
Y'all make a great team! But please let your brother talk more when about chainsaw stuff! :) ... but I must say your interview questions are very good and thorough... usually just the things I want to ask.
Great video! The first motorbike I almost bought was a Husq, good memories. Say, love the kid's turkey drawing in the background! Heartwarming to see all kids are the same, it's only adults who act differently! Do you have turkeys there? Your videos make me want to go there! Keep up the great work!
I live in logging country Washington state.Seems to me the perspective between the two brands mirrors each other.Both great saws personal preference between the two.
i need adsvise on bar size. i have 3 saws. 044 025 and 026, the 044 has 24" the 025 has 16" what size should i get for 026?should i get standard 16 or go 18-20 so i have one in the middle?? thanks guys
Where I live no self respecting lumberjack would use a Husquavarna, which is purchased at a big box store. Stihl is the only choice, from a authorized dealer. So, I appreciate your comparison of the two saws. I'd also like to hear some discussion on different types of chains meaning the rounded safety chain and the more aggressive square cut tooth.
It's a local thing. Guys around here think Chevy trucks are best and Ford is a poor second choice and Dodge only when you don't have the money for a Chevy. It's interesting to see how those preferences change in different areas.
Around Ohio Stihl is only sold by servicing dealers so getting parts is a non issue. Husqy on the other hand is sold by Home Depot so if I were to use it professionally, I think I would use a Stihl so if there is a problem down-time would likely be less. I have only owned one and it was a Stihl. I sold it after 15 years because I did not need it any longer.Since I don't climb I take care of my trees with a 19' pruning saw and very sharp pruner. If I need more than that, I call an arborist.
Hi great video, I am involved in chainsaw training. I find Husqvarna saws are well designed, handle well and rev like a Ferrari, Stihl saws are well made and have the comfort and grunt of a Bently. Husqvarna make good, small limbing saws and Stihl make good large felling saws. Oregon make good commercial grade chains, bars and sprockets that are durable and affordable. On the flipside I have also read that Echo saws are nearly indestructable! Looking forward to future videos.
I wish I was strong enough to handle one of these bad boy saws but I'm a lady and can't even lift one much less use one! Well my age is a factor too! But I still enjoy learning about them. So thank you for sharing this video and I look forward to your next video!
heres 3 places in the world where things like chainsaws are very well made Europe, America, and japan theres a reason products from those 3 regions are known for being long lasting and reliable.
+Ben the 460 is more of their "homeowner" line 560xp is more of their "commercial" line I do believe that the 555 is somewhere in between the 2 lines hope that helps
Hello to you both,I have a question that seems no one can answer regarding chains and sharpening them. Most of my chains call for a side plate angle of 80 degrees. After the first usage and the next sharpening I create a top plate angle of 90 degrees for the simplicity of being able to consistently, and accurately file at that angle. After about three fillings the 90 is established on the cutter. My question is: after I, RE-PROFILE, the angle is the chain going to cut optimally? Or should I always try to keep the 80 degree angle on the side plate as was originally placed on the cutter? Thanks for the video. You two guys are doing a great job ! Thanks
Have you seen our video on sharpening the chain? I think it might give you the answer. It is important to keep the angle that the gauge and chain show you.
Good afternoon Gentlemen (Simeon and Tim in case you were wondering ;-)). Thank you for the video, very timely! I just took delivery today of a 390XP with 20" bar, Oregon chains. I have only run it up, feels nice, torquey and spins up quick. It's mostly for my LogoSol mill, but I have some big eucalyptus waiting for it tomorrow! Looking forward to the other videos, thank you guys. Tim
Nice Video. But I think i noticed a little mistake: As far as I know Stihl and Oregon are not completely exchangeable when it comes to chain and bar because Stihl has a 1.6mm grove and Oregon uses the 1.3mm or 1.5mm grove.
Swedish Homestead It may depend on the chain size and/or the country but this is what I experience in my daily life on the job. P.S. greetings to your brother from a lumberjack and arborist from Germany
Carbide chains cost a fortune compared to a conventional chain, don't cut as efficiently in normal conditions, and are a lot more difficult to sharpen. They are advantageous in extremely dirty and/or abrasive conditions that would quickly dull a conventional chain. There are several styles of cutters that are used on chains. Generally, the faster the chain's capability to cut, the more sensitive it is to dirt. For somewhat less than absolutely "pristine" conditions, a style of cutter called "semi-chisel" will hold its edge longer than a square-chisel or round-chisel chain will. Stihl uses totally different terminology to describe their styles of cutters used.
my 044 is perfect, very little use. i plan to keep for ever.my question is how does it compare to the new versions? id guess mine is 2002/? how do i tell the year?and is there any significant power/weight difference from 044 to the newest version?? thank you so much
Well Done guys! Very proud of you! Keep up the good work! And thanks for educating mind mind English about proper pronunciation of the saw names! Well Done.
Please talk about consumer grade versus "professional grade" and the availability of parts or rebuilding service. Rumor has it that many saws must be discarded if they fail (broken Piston or rod etc.). fine to limit this discussion to Stihl and Husqvarna. It is a big investment and ability to have long life is important. Thanks!
The difference between the two,at least in Danmark is that the parts for Stihl and all the tools in Stihl brand can be bought only on dealers.They are expensive for the average guy but not for professionals ,To prevent wrong people from doing service on the tools.While Husqvarna even sells parts on Internet.Other Than that as Tim said, they are both great saws.Stihl more robust tough.
Building loghouses i love using husqvarna also with there bar because its narrow and twists much better. Also prefer the husqvarna's slim design. My all time favourite for reliability has been the husqvarna 359 but now im giving a chance to the 560 xp also. So far i like it but it has to earn my trust in reliability. In what i do i use more oil also so the saws last better.
Havent got a chance to try it. Seems compact tho. Many ppl who do the same job use stihl and say its great running with superbike oil. But i need a fast release top to clear out chips. The bar seems a bit wider than husqys not sure tho. In what i do the narrow the bar the better. I have run Jonsered saws and seen them used and had bad luck with them. Tried a older stihl that had too big of a case and felt it had no rpms.
me to but used friends husky was very impressed, think if ever bought new would go husky found stihl to be bad starters not just saws brushcutters ect .
that is interesting, I have never even used a husky, so actually a good point to give it a try. But somehow I find that they look so plastic. So will see ;-)
i would try one if you get the chance , i have been out of the logging game for about 30 years and allways used stihl at the time. still got the old 056av not running now . anyway friend asked me to give him a hand with a little job and he had just bought a new husky i thought wot a really good saw to use .know wot your saying about bit plasticky but did not feel flimsy in use try give one a go best of luck r. ps some one else took a shine to it got stolen out of mates van !
thanks yes will make an effort to give it a try. Although all my chains and extras that i have all do fit to Stihl, Really not sure if i want to start and mix. But certainly will give it a try. I was planning to either get the 362 or the 461, but after I tried the husky. Shame to hear that your friend's husky was stolen. Happened to me as well with some tools, it is very frustrating. All the best and take care from Sweden. Cheers, John
not sure which on friend had was not a great big one perhaps 18inc bar , bit of a sod it got pinched like your tools , stay safe john kind regards richard [uk].
I have owned stihl saws my whole life. I guess you find a brand your comfortable with and stick with it unless your using your saws to earn a living. I know a lot of tree service company's around my area that use both brands. Always seemed to me the stihls had more low end power and the huskys ran faster and were more nimble. Im not a pro, just my observation. Looking forward to the next in the series.
I was up at the stock room the other day and my buddy was talking about his chainsaw. I asked him what kind it was and he said he couldn't remember, it was a Stihl or Husky but it wasn't running anyway. "So it's a Stihl" I said, much laughter all around. I dunno though, I've had both and have a Husky now and it's doing better than my Stihl used to but I'm practicing very careful fuel hygiene now too. So...
Ha! The manufacturers are always leapfrogging each other, and their own models...keeps going. I wonder if there comes a point when they have made the best they can, because the differences they add or subtract are so minute, and not worth it to change tooling and production. I have a small Husqvarna 235 for limbing, and an Echo CS-490 for the medium to smaller trees on property. They have served me well..easy enough to get parts and do my own maintenance. Thank you for this video and the series
which one is easier to get parts for? I have most of my experience being with the Stihl brand and you can order parts off Amazon or wherever pretty easy
stihl my favorite only because it's reliable . husky or Husqvarna good but little bit more complicated . also parts for stihl are readily available and cheep sweet.
Can't wait to see the model reviews. I've been looking at chainsaws to use with an Alaskan Mill. I watched the guy next door drop a 150ft redwood in rounds without ropes, and landed them on a slope all within a 15x12ft area more or less. Was amazing. He also ripped the stump with a 20" bar. He was using a Makita saw (which bought out Dolmar) so I started looking at them. They are coming out with a 4stroke MM4 soon. I'm wondering if 4 stroke saws might revolutionize the industry like they did with dirt bikes. I was thinking of getting a 60cc saw with a 36" Oregon Bar and ripping chain for the mill. What are your thoughts on that? Keep up the good work, loving your vids.
I, too, have been looking at the chainsaw mills. Most users that I have seen recommend at least about 80cc at the absolute mimimum. I think 36" bar is just too much for only 60cc.
I've been watching different people using the chain saw for ripping lumber and was wondering if it takes a different chain or is it sharpened differently?
Its funny how names of companies overseas are changed to suit the languages of the U.S. and Canada. Ive known the true pronunciation of the products for awhile thank you for pointing out that they originated in Sweden and the real way to say the word. I use all Swedish axes whenever possible very good and sharp products. I do like that you guys use saws and bar sizes that are relevant to the job being performed. over here we have people that are cutting a 16in tree with a 24" bar. people believe bigger is better but it makes you more tired.
I prefer Stihl. For me Stihl is more reliable and is alot simpler to work on than the Husqvarnas, power wise to me they feel about the same but I also like how the Stihl feels. Im also one of the few people who actually like the weird Stihl twisty flippy cap thingy ma do-hickys.
A Canadian, by the name of Mike Acres, has a website dedicated to the collecting of chain saws. He has an immense data base. www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/673d78ec01557aea88256b00005457e6/d8d083a8d741e3db88256c9b00780d89?OpenDocument
AmyJohnson was that all that gleamed from this video? These young men were born in Germany. I would rather trust their milk language than your kindergarten teacher. This kind of comments are to sad for words. Take a pill and calm down.
Really like it when Tim shares his knowledge with us! I do like that you have chosen specializations and join together to care for your land, your forest, your animals, your families and that you're sharing this with us.
Thanks for another great video!
Husqy all the way for me, from Kansas USA. My brother likes stihl but he was born early so he's a little special.
Haha. That's funny
LOL !
Stihl all the way baby.... +hard knocks forge... no offense bru, but your brother being born early, still doesnt out compete you being dropped as an infant... LOL... Stihl all the way!!!!
LOL!!! 😁😁😁😂😂
Hard Knocks Forge No man Stihls just better
I took the same courses here in Canada 22 years ago except the arborist or tree climbing part. I've always been Husqvarna all the way, chainsaws, mowers, clearing saws etc love my Husqis
I have had the 2007 model entry-level Husqvarna 142e for about, well, 10 years now. I've had to replace the muffler ($12 generic), the fuel line ($2), and when the bar wore out I replaced it with a plain old generic Oregon 16" bar (generic S56 chains fit perfectly). It leaks a little oil, but otherwise it runs like an absolute champ and has been 100% reliable. I store it outside (but out of rain), and I even ran it with no muffler for a season because I was too lazy to get a new one. It must have 200 hours on it and it's showing no signs of quitting. As long as I pour out the fuel and run it dry before storing it starts on the first or second starting pull every time.
I've never used a Stihl, and I'm sure they're great, but when this one dies I'll be sticking with "Husky" for sure. If my tools can stand up to the horrible way I care for them, they earn my loyalty.
In my limited experience of using chainsaws and talking to other users, a lot of the choice stems from what you done your certification on. I used Stihl for my training and that is my goto saw. A very informative video and good to see Tim actually smiled once!!!
I'm always impressed by your (and your brother's) English -- especially vocabulary, even idioms and slang. I could never speak a second language so well.
I really find these videos to be helpful and informative. I personally wouldn't change them. Excellent work
The only big advancement in chainsaws has been fuel efficiency and less bar oil usage for environmental concern. I’ve owned Stihl saws since the early ’90’s and have all my fathers 1960-1980 Homelite and Stihl saws. My favorite saw remains to be the Stihl 200T. I also own a 201T. I think that’s the last saw made in Germany. All others are assembled elsewhere. I own an 880 Magnum and it doesn’t cut better/faster then a 261 for a lot less money. In fact, my fathers old Homelite’s seem have double the torque then any new magnum, but use a ton of fuel and spit oil all over the place. In terms of safety, I guess the chain quick stop would be the most significant safety advancement... but that’s a manual operated feature.
I am a Jonsered fan and i have 4 of them all the way up to the 2188-90cc, but when it comes to a top handle-saw i go for Echo. I think they have the best ergonomics.
Love your videos.
All the best from Norway and Stay safe.
Interesting. Thanks.
I graduated to a slasher delimer many years ago. Lugging a saw is too hard on old joints. lol good video Simeon. Praise God you are blessed of God.
Thanks.
Ha Ha, which chainsaw is best is as we say in the UK opening a can of worms:-)
When I worked for other people and used the saws they supplied I used Husqvarna and Stihl, MS201, MS200, MS881 and 540TX, 576XP etc, I never had a problem with any of them. As I'm now self employed and use my own saws I choose Echo, 2 reasons really, 1. I have my late fathers 1975 Echo CS-701 which still works and 2. Echo were offering a 2 year warranty for commercial /professional use (5 years for domestic/homeowner)
Echo as you may know are a Japanese company who built their first saw in 1967, like Husqvarna/Jonsered the parent company Kioritz also make the virtually identical but different colour Shindiawa saws. Echo don't have as large a range as Stihl or Husqvarna, some of them are a little less powerful or a little heavier than some Stihl or Husqvarna, some are a little lighter, some a little more powerful, nothing really significant. I also use bars by Sugi-Hara, another Japanese company and one which actually supplies the bars for most of the Echo range, with that I use mainly Oregon chains. The ones I have are the CS-450 (45cc) CS-501 (50cc), CS-8002 (80cc) and CS-360TES which is a top handle saw. If I was buying another it would be the CS-620 (60cc). The CS-8002 is a pretty old design and is quite heavy and less powerful than Husqvarna or Stihl more recent 80cc saws.
Many people get very defensive about their choice of saw, in my view the best saw is the one that always starts easily, has a sharp chain and that you're happy with :-)
Thanks, yeah don't get me wrong, regardless of which saws someone chooses I want them to be as enthusiastic about them as I am about my choices. Just as long as they don't get caught in the trap of needing to validate their own choice by demeaning the choices of others, that's schoolyard mentality.
Be careful out there :-)
Thanks, not much on my channel, when I'm working I rarely have time to video stuff and I don't consider myself as good enough to advise others, they're are plenty of highly accomplished treeworkers on UA-cam, Reg Coates is one I hold in high regard.
Hej. Verkligen roligt att se era videos! Har skälv en gård och får mycket inspiration från att följa er.
Kul!
Am I the only one who can't stop looking at the turkey drawling?
I know what you mean about idiots not knowing how to work or look after there saws, wrong fuel mix , or no mix at all, biggest problems . They should buy these cheap Chinese things instead if they want a hobby saw, but hey everyone want to be seen with the best, ha ha take care. Charlie T.
elizabeth taylor did you click on the wrong comment?
@@rowanfernsler9725 My thoughts exactly 😄
I am fixated on the turkey. Maybe because I’m watching this in the run up to a Christmas.
I should add... I think the Swedes excel in Forestry. I don’t know why, but there seems to be a lot of great new technology in accessories and clothing to support the industry.
On a slightly separate note, I own a bunch of Gransfors Bruk axes and they’re the nicest I have ever swang. I am a customer of there’s for life!
Nice.
Husqvarna 550XP 560XP 562XP are the best. Good performance!
I've got an old 1984 jonny 820, and a Stihl 025. Had a 394xp and 372xp. All great saws, though the 372 was probably my favorite, I like the setup I have now. The 820 is a beast, but heavy. The 025 goes with me in the pickup everywhere.
Great videos guys. Always nice to see family working together graciously.
My favorite is a Husq 288XP... good saw! I also have a Husq 3120XP for milling, an old Stihl 031AV for limbing, a few Craftsman saws.
Great videos Simeon. Don't let these critics with no life get you down. I love your videos and think they're entertaining and informative.
Thank you for putting these videos up, they are very useful for a newbie like me. My wife and family are Finnish, and I think all started using chainsaws by the age of, oh about 3, but it's all new to me ;)
Stihl vs Husqvarna has to be biggest debate. I have heard support and opponents of both. Generally where I live they are both known to be good saws, But the Husky is reputed to be more finicky to keep running well, as I've seen demonstrated with with a couple of different models. -Real accurate and unbiased comparison is rare. I would like to know more actual mechanical differences. Thank you.
Tim must be the most humble person on all of UA-cam. I think hes great and I really appreciate that he shares his knowledge and experience with us. Please share this comment with him! For me I like Husqvarna and Dolmar saws the best. Stihl is nice but I have trouble buying parts online for them at times. Thanks for the video.
I will let him know.
Thanks for sharing this information. Thanks to your brother for giving his advice too. God bless and keep you all always safe.
For now I'm working with Jonsered 2260 and it's perfect.
Nice.
Appreciate the pronunciation guidance. Who would have thought "john-sir- ed" is actually pronounced "u-en-sidea". Can't wait to show my "street cred" or should I say" forest cred" when I next visit my local shop. As for the two orange machines, I have both but prefer the Stihl as it starts easier which for most infrequent users is an important factor. No fun struggling to start the damn thing. Because Huskies are now sold in "big Box Stores" in the US, some say the quality has gone down for those models. Stihls are sold in independent stores that are typically very well run.
They should do a video on how to pronounce Jonsered.
Thank you for teaching us how to say them correctly!
Moorhuhn in the background. Brilliant. Also: Try out the Stihl Chains. In my Experience they keep their sharpness much better than the ones from Oregon. They really are worth the extra money. Just make sure you buy the 1,5mm version for your Husqvarnas and the Oregon bars.
Hope that's a 200t in the back! My most used saw at the moment is a ms362, nice collection Tim. I enjoy seeing the various PPE you have aswell, maybe include that in the next video? Great job you two keep it up.
I choose Stihl because we have a good local dealer. I think both are great saws. I have had one of my Stihls for 22 years, even ran it over with a tractor which buried it in the mud, but it still works fine, just got a new 362c with 18” bar, for hard woods this a great saw, lighter than my older 341which I still use for felling, the 362 I use for firewooding as its lighter.
What I have noticed between the two makes is Husqvarna does probably make better anti kick chain, they invented the special guard link. Also they supply a superior felling bar which is made of cast rather than my Stihl steel bar which has welds and is in a state of rust.
So who makes the better saw? I think it’s like a choice between Toyota and Volkswagen. But Husqvarna have some better accessories and while Stihl make excellent chain, Husqvarna has the better anti kick chain.
I appreciate your time
William
I have several of both and my preference is for stihl, my husky and dolmars are very close second and echo is pretty good as well
Video right on time. I just got a brand new MS 261 today and I can tell that it rolls even on sticky pine wood. Keep on these nice informative videos gays.
love your chainsaw videos .
The angled handle is supposed to be a safety feature. With kickback a straight handle tends to aim the bar at your face. The angled handle pushes the bar away from your face.
Interesting
Speaking of old chainsaws... my dad has an old Echo (idk if you guys have them in Sweden but if not, they’re solid machines. Used to be tanks). It’s gotta be an 87 or older cuz that’s the last year of that saw and it doesn’t have a chain brake on it. Just a hand guard. It’s a monster though. Like I said, can’t be newer than 1987 and it rips through everything.
Gotta love these info vids with you two. This was great. Can't wait till the next one👍
Hi, wondering if you would consider doing a few videos on axes. You could cover off lots of topics including safety, how-to and maintenance and maybe even a tour of a local quality Swedish axe maker. I have a Wetterlings and would love to learn more about using it better. Great videos by the way! Steve from Canada
Between the Husky and the Stihl I think they are very similar on quality, what my determining factor has always been is the quality of the local chainsaw shop, if you have a good shop and they sell Husky, buy a Husky.
You can add Tanaka to the list of good saws, their parent company is Hitachi.
Cheers!
Y'all make a great team! But please let your brother talk more when about chainsaw stuff! :)
... but I must say your interview questions are very good and thorough... usually just the things I want to ask.
Great video! The first motorbike I almost bought was a Husq, good memories. Say, love the kid's turkey drawing in the background! Heartwarming to see all kids are the same, it's only adults who act differently! Do you have turkeys there? Your videos make me want to go there! Keep up the great work!
Thanks. We raise turkeys during summer time. Check out our video on the Thanksgiving Turkey.
I live in logging country Washington state.Seems to me the perspective between the two brands mirrors each other.Both great saws personal preference between the two.
Yes. Agree.
Alpine VIC Aussie checking in. Husky 440E and 372xp ftw!
i need adsvise on bar size. i have 3 saws. 044 025 and 026, the 044 has 24" the 025 has 16" what size should i get for 026?should i get standard 16 or go 18-20 so i have one in the middle?? thanks guys
Where I live no self respecting lumberjack would use a Husquavarna, which is purchased at a big box store. Stihl is the only choice, from a authorized dealer. So, I appreciate your comparison of the two saws. I'd also like to hear some discussion on different types of chains meaning the rounded safety chain and the more aggressive square cut tooth.
I will hear with Tim about the chains.
It's a local thing. Guys around here think Chevy trucks are best and Ford is a poor second choice and Dodge only when you don't have the money for a Chevy. It's interesting to see how those preferences change in different areas.
and the Swiss foresters I come across mainly sling Husqvarnas, like you mentioned below;
"it's interesting to see how..."
Around Ohio Stihl is only sold by servicing dealers so getting parts is a non issue. Husqy on the other hand is sold by Home Depot so if I were to use it professionally, I think I would use a Stihl so if there is a problem down-time would likely be less. I have only owned one and it was a Stihl. I sold it after 15 years because I did not need it any longer.Since I don't climb I take care of my trees with a 19' pruning saw and very sharp pruner. If I need more than that, I call an arborist.
Nice video! I ended third in SM i skog for youth in 2001 so Tim is in good company. :)
I bought a Stihl because they use 2 compression rings on all their saws. Husqvarna only uses one except on their professional models.
Very good point.
Hi great video, I am involved in chainsaw training. I find Husqvarna saws are well designed, handle well and rev like a Ferrari, Stihl saws are well made and have the comfort and grunt of a Bently. Husqvarna make good, small limbing saws and Stihl make good large felling saws.
Oregon make good commercial grade chains, bars and sprockets that are durable and affordable. On the flipside I have also read that Echo saws are nearly indestructable!
Looking forward to future videos.
Callum Crawford But the climbing saws from Stihl are way better than the ones from Husky
I wish I was strong enough to handle one of these bad boy saws but I'm a lady and can't even lift one much less use one! Well my age is a factor too! But I still enjoy learning about them. So thank you for sharing this video and I look forward to your next video!
Cool video. Very interesting to watch chainsaw talk from a country different than mine. Great job guys.
heres 3 places in the world where things like chainsaws are very well made Europe, America, and japan theres a reason products from those 3 regions are known for being long lasting and reliable.
i like the drawing of the chicken on the wall.
I love the drawing on the door! Lol
Beat me to it!😭
I am looking for a 60CC currently, I am partial to Husqvarna
555 and 560xp then both great saws!
Ben Poliquin Dolmar/Makita 6400. Lighter than others in same class, = in quality or better and plenty of power. Also upgradable to 80cc.
Alvar Lipp is that the same as the 460 rancher?
+Ben the 460 is more of their "homeowner" line
560xp is more of their "commercial" line
I do believe that the 555 is somewhere in between the 2 lines
hope that helps
I am sold on Stihl, have had mine for 30 years. Still runs like a top!
Hello to you both,I have a question that seems no one can answer regarding chains and sharpening them.
Most of my chains call for a side plate angle of 80 degrees. After the first usage and the next sharpening I create a top plate angle of 90 degrees for the simplicity of being able to consistently, and accurately file at that angle. After about three fillings the 90 is established on the cutter.
My question is: after I, RE-PROFILE, the angle is the chain going to cut optimally? Or should I always try to keep the 80 degree angle on the side plate as was originally placed on the cutter?
Thanks for the video. You two guys are doing a great job !
Thanks
Have you seen our video on sharpening the chain? I think it might give you the answer. It is important to keep the angle that the gauge and chain show you.
i may prefer stihl for myself, but i think that husqvarna is good as it
Good afternoon Gentlemen (Simeon and Tim in case you were wondering ;-)). Thank you for the video, very timely! I just took delivery today of a 390XP with 20" bar, Oregon chains. I have only run it up, feels nice, torquey and spins up quick. It's mostly for my LogoSol mill, but I have some big eucalyptus waiting for it tomorrow! Looking forward to the other videos, thank you guys. Tim
Awesome. Hope it will work well.
Nice Video.
But I think i noticed a little mistake:
As far as I know Stihl and Oregon are not completely exchangeable when it comes to chain and bar because Stihl has a 1.6mm grove and Oregon uses the 1.3mm or 1.5mm grove.
Ok. Would have to see with Tim about that.
Swedish Homestead
It may depend on the chain size and/or the country but this is what I experience in my daily life on the job.
P.S. greetings to your brother from a lumberjack and arborist from Germany
show how you care for your chains and bars. what to do when you damage a chain. why you don't use carbide chains.
Carbide chains cost a fortune compared to a conventional chain, don't cut as efficiently in normal conditions, and are a lot more difficult to sharpen. They are advantageous in extremely dirty and/or abrasive conditions that would quickly dull a conventional chain. There are several styles of cutters that are used on chains. Generally, the faster the chain's capability to cut, the more sensitive it is to dirt. For somewhat less than absolutely "pristine" conditions, a style of cutter called "semi-chisel" will hold its edge longer than a square-chisel or round-chisel chain will. Stihl uses totally different terminology to describe their styles of cutters used.
Even from Sweden I hear you both pronouncing Oregon correctly....way to go Alex :-)
Hehe. yes. it is not Ore-gone. ;)
Swedish Homestead Proper way to say it is "Ory-gun". Google it... :-)
I think his wife is from Oregon, so he learned that fast...lol
my 044 is perfect, very little use. i plan to keep for ever.my question is how does it compare to the new versions? id guess mine is 2002/? how do i tell the year?and is there any significant power/weight difference from 044 to the newest version?? thank you so much
Stihl would be my preferred choice because I mostly work with them and because there are dealers close to me ready to give awesome customer service.
Well Done guys! Very proud of you! Keep up the good work! And thanks for educating mind mind English about proper pronunciation of the saw names! Well Done.
As always, interesting and helpful.
Please talk about consumer grade versus "professional grade" and the availability of parts or rebuilding service. Rumor has it that many saws must be discarded if they fail (broken Piston or rod etc.). fine to limit this discussion to Stihl and Husqvarna. It is a big investment and ability to have long life is important. Thanks!
The difference between the two,at least in Danmark is that the parts for Stihl and all the tools in Stihl brand can be bought only on dealers.They are expensive for the average guy but not for professionals ,To prevent wrong people from doing service on the tools.While Husqvarna even sells parts on Internet.Other Than that as Tim said, they are both great saws.Stihl more robust tough.
Building loghouses i love using husqvarna also with there bar because its narrow and twists much better. Also prefer the husqvarna's slim design. My all time favourite for reliability has been the husqvarna 359 but now im giving a chance to the 560 xp also. So far i like it but it has to earn my trust in reliability. In what i do i use more oil also so the saws last better.
Isn't it funny how each model needs to earn ones trust! Awesome.
Alvar Lipp what do you think about the Stihl MS 261 C-M 2016 Model?
Havent got a chance to try it. Seems compact tho. Many ppl who do the same job use stihl and say its great running with superbike oil. But i need a fast release top to clear out chips. The bar seems a bit wider than husqys not sure tho. In what i do the narrow the bar the better. I have run Jonsered saws and seen them used and had bad luck with them. Tried a older stihl that had too big of a case and felt it had no rpms.
ah very timely guys, just looking to get a new one. To date have only worked with Stihl.
me to but used friends husky was very impressed, think if ever bought new would go husky found stihl to be bad starters not just saws brushcutters ect .
that is interesting, I have never even used a husky, so actually a good point to give it a try. But somehow I find that they look so plastic. So will see ;-)
i would try one if you get the chance , i have been out of the logging game for about 30 years and allways used stihl at the time. still got the old 056av not running now . anyway friend asked me to give him a hand with a little job and he had just bought a new husky i thought wot a really good saw to use .know wot your saying about bit plasticky but did not feel flimsy in use try give one a go best of luck r. ps some one else took a shine to it got stolen out of mates van !
thanks yes will make an effort to give it a try. Although all my chains and extras that i have all do fit to Stihl, Really not sure if i want to start and mix. But certainly will give it a try. I was planning to either get the 362 or the 461, but after I tried the husky.
Shame to hear that your friend's husky was stolen. Happened to me as well with some tools, it is very frustrating. All the best and take care from Sweden. Cheers, John
not sure which on friend had was not a great big one perhaps 18inc bar , bit of a sod it got pinched like your tools , stay safe john kind regards richard [uk].
I have owned stihl saws my whole life. I guess you find a brand your comfortable with and stick with it unless your using your saws to earn a living. I know a lot of tree service company's around my area that use both brands. Always seemed to me the stihls had more low end power and the huskys ran faster and were more nimble. Im not a pro, just my observation. Looking forward to the next in the series.
Thanks. Interesting.
Both you guys are good but more Tim and logging please!
Please can you show up close that line on the saw you were talking about(The line that helps youto aim where the tree will fall? Thanks.
I was up at the stock room the other day and my buddy was talking about his chainsaw. I asked him what kind it was and he said he couldn't remember, it was a Stihl or Husky but it wasn't running anyway. "So it's a Stihl" I said, much laughter all around. I dunno though, I've had both and have a Husky now and it's doing better than my Stihl used to but I'm practicing very careful fuel hygiene now too. So...
Ha! The manufacturers are always leapfrogging each other, and their own models...keeps going. I wonder if there comes a point when they have made the best they can, because the differences they add or subtract are so minute, and not worth it to change tooling and production. I have a small Husqvarna 235 for limbing, and an Echo CS-490 for the medium to smaller trees on property. They have served me well..easy enough to get parts and do my own maintenance. Thank you for this video and the series
Great video. I am wondering if you might do a video on how you clean and maintain your saws?
I like Husky and Stihl. The other one...whut?
I have had Jonsered ,Husqvarna,and stihl. all good saws
Agree.
Dolmar and Solo were bought by Makita , I think solo are no longer made but used to be good saws, use Stihls myself , good tough saws.
which one is easier to get parts for? I have most of my experience being with the Stihl brand and you can order parts off Amazon or wherever pretty easy
your channel is my favorit, you are doing a great job.
Thanks.
Jonsereds used to be the #1 saw in the world, back in the late 70's. That changed a long time ago, unfortunately.
You might care to explain the benefits of a rim sprocket
Made in Germany Stihl and Dolmar is the Best
stihl my favorite only because it's reliable . husky or Husqvarna good but little bit more complicated . also parts for stihl are readily available and cheep sweet.
also vibration from 044 to new version
That's one CUTE TURKEY!!!
Good presentation (as usual). Hey I learned the proper way to pronounce "Husqvarna".... Look forward to your other videos in this series.
Can you do a video on changing the chain sprocket, and fuel pump on the Stihl VS Husqvarna?
Dolmar for boss mode.
Husqy for high tech.
Amazing chainsaw video! ;-)
Thanks.
Can't wait to see the model reviews. I've been looking at chainsaws to use with an Alaskan Mill. I watched the guy next door drop a 150ft redwood in rounds without ropes, and landed them on a slope all within a 15x12ft area more or less. Was amazing. He also ripped the stump with a 20" bar. He was using a Makita saw (which bought out Dolmar) so I started looking at them. They are coming out with a 4stroke MM4 soon. I'm wondering if 4 stroke saws might revolutionize the industry like they did with dirt bikes. I was thinking of getting a 60cc saw with a 36" Oregon Bar and ripping chain for the mill. What are your thoughts on that? Keep up the good work, loving your vids.
I, too, have been looking at the chainsaw mills. Most users that I have seen recommend at least about 80cc at the absolute mimimum. I think 36" bar is just too much for only 60cc.
Yea was wondering bout that. I thought it might be okay for ripping smaller logs like 2ft or just a bit bigger.
I've been watching different people using the chain saw for ripping lumber and was wondering if it takes a different chain or is it sharpened differently?
HWhit9000 The chain is different. The main difference is the angle of the top plate, 30 deg for crosscut chain and 5 to 10 deg for ripping chain.
Tim 😍
I like my 288XP very loud, powerful, and fast.
Its funny how names of companies overseas are changed to suit the languages of the U.S. and Canada. Ive known the true pronunciation of the products for awhile thank you for pointing out that they originated in Sweden and the real way to say the word. I use all Swedish axes whenever possible very good and sharp products. I do like that you guys use saws and bar sizes that are relevant to the job being performed. over here we have people that are cutting a 16in tree with a 24" bar. people believe bigger is better but it makes you more tired.
I am glad the chainsaw market has good competition. We don't want chainsaws to go all John Deere on us.
I prefer Stihl. For me Stihl is more reliable and is alot simpler to work on than the Husqvarnas, power wise to me they feel about the same but I also like how the Stihl feels. Im also one of the few people who actually like the weird Stihl twisty flippy cap thingy ma do-hickys.
Are there left handed chain saws?
Many years ago there were some left-handed saws, with the bar mounted on the left hand side of the crankcase.
A Canadian, by the name of Mike Acres, has a website dedicated to the collecting of chain saws. He has an immense data base. www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/673d78ec01557aea88256b00005457e6/d8d083a8d741e3db88256c9b00780d89?OpenDocument
Is he the one always working when your talking about the video. Haha
Seriously really enjoy your videos
I enjoyed this! My husband works for the largest Stihl dealer in our area and my kindergarten level German tells me it is not pronounced still!
Haha. Yep. He is right. ;)
Amy Johnson critic critic critic who really cares you know what he meant
Amy Johnson I took German for 5 years and it's pronounced....shteel.
AmyJohnson was that all that gleamed from this video? These young men were born in Germany. I would rather trust their milk language than your kindergarten teacher. This kind of comments are to sad for words. Take a pill and calm down.
wait, i´m from germany and he pronounced stihl perfect, at least at 10:19 min :D
how strong is kick back. I have never seen it happen. if you're have a strong grip and hold on your saw is that enough to stop it?