The Minimum Wage Debate Explained

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  • @caracrabtree715
    @caracrabtree715 3 роки тому +1608

    I hate when they use the argument that low wage earners are teens and retirees. God forbid any of these people have to ever start their life over at a middle age. Also not all 16, 18, 20 or 22 year olds have someone to lean on and have to support themselves

    • @sheriffaboubakar9720
      @sheriffaboubakar9720 3 роки тому +118

      Exactly, I'm 18 and in my area you have to be making at the very least 15 an hour just to afford a decent apartment in my area (that costs about 800). Jobs here barely pay fucking 12 an hour. I live in Cleveland, OH.

    • @rje024
      @rje024 3 роки тому +109

      @@sheriffaboubakar9720 see there lies the problem.
      You think you deserve a decent apartment. The audacity.
      Now, back to work peasant!

    • @sheriffaboubakar9720
      @sheriffaboubakar9720 3 роки тому +101

      @@rje024 Ah yes, the luxury of affording a place to stay that isn't a fucking crack motel while working full time. (I work for $12 an hour btw not min. wage and I still can't afford an apartment)

    • @rje024
      @rje024 3 роки тому +45

      @@sheriffaboubakar9720, I was being facetious...
      us pleeps should be satisfied with any job we're lucky to be afforded and grateful of our overloads allowing us to work for them in the greatest country ever to exist

    • @sheriffaboubakar9720
      @sheriffaboubakar9720 3 роки тому +65

      @@rje024 fuck being satisfied paying 90% of your income to just surviving.

  • @christianvennemann9008
    @christianvennemann9008 3 роки тому +5871

    If only the working class had the same amount of solidarity as the ruling class. Then we'd be unstoppable.
    EDIT: Some of y'all really are proving my point.

    • @christianvennemann9008
      @christianvennemann9008 3 роки тому +227

      @@arknewman Yup. And it's a real shame.

    • @berndb3141
      @berndb3141 3 роки тому +247

      Exactly. Other developed countrys have better social security for their people because citizens played ball with the politicans, aplied pressure. You rareley get something out of curtesey from them.

    • @tracyleighbasham
      @tracyleighbasham 3 роки тому +12

      🖤

    • @johndanes2294
      @johndanes2294 3 роки тому +163

      @@arknewman To be fair there are issues that are not directly related to labor issues but are just as paramount. Clearly social injustices such as racism and ethnic divisions are as much a hinder to the working class as capitalism is.

    • @Andrew-qi1bw
      @Andrew-qi1bw 3 роки тому +91

      Just like the Russian revolution needed unity between workers and peasants political change now needs unity between the workers in the country and the city, the coast and the heartland, the Majority and minorities.

  • @amihurst2657
    @amihurst2657 3 роки тому +2317

    Congratulations on 1 million subscribers, you truly deserve it.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +418

      Thank you!

    • @thepatbackexperience4573
      @thepatbackexperience4573 3 роки тому +77

      Holy moly I didn't even notice he had so many subs, I'm happy for his rapid channel growth.

    • @amihurst2657
      @amihurst2657 3 роки тому +9

      @@thepatbackexperience4573 me too :)

    • @PremierCCGuyMMXVI
      @PremierCCGuyMMXVI 3 роки тому +23

      @@SecondThought no, thank you

    • @nashestylez
      @nashestylez 3 роки тому +21

      @@SecondThought No, we thank YOU. You are educating so many people and you are making a real impact, This is a noble cause, keep it up :)

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 3 роки тому +364

    One thing not mentioned here is that just as Ford knew 100 years ago, if you pay your employees more, they will spend more money on your products and other goods and services which in turn increase the amount others can spend on your vehicles massively increasing the velocity of money from the previous hoarding.

    • @ivorybarca7943
      @ivorybarca7943 3 роки тому +1

      @We say no to pay to win Source?

    • @gaspersb
      @gaspersb 2 роки тому

      And Ford was kind of a bastard too. It's not like he was a great person or anything. He was in it for Numero Uno.

    • @sweetestcyanide
      @sweetestcyanide 2 роки тому +15

      lol yep. my job pays me jack shit, so whenever my boss isn’t there i make myself a thing or two lmao

    • @nirvanic3610
      @nirvanic3610 2 роки тому +2

      @@sweetestcyanide thief

    • @monsterglacier
      @monsterglacier 2 роки тому +15

      @@nirvanic3610 oh no im sure you've wounded them greatly, bud. they surely had no idea they were stealing...

  • @gaiusjuliuspleaser
    @gaiusjuliuspleaser 3 роки тому +845

    The fact there is even such a thing as a mandatory living wage means that employers basically went "we''d pay you even less if we could." and somehow millions of us went "ah okay, makes sense."

    • @inquisitorkryptman7893
      @inquisitorkryptman7893 3 роки тому +2

      If it does't make sense just get out so many people with common sense could replace you

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 3 роки тому +1

      it doesn't mean that at all. you're making things up. sometimes politicians fix problems that don't exist

    • @mr.p215
      @mr.p215 3 роки тому +7

      @@inquisitorkryptman7893 *without

    • @office-oholics4182
      @office-oholics4182 3 роки тому +18

      @Elias Håkansson Simple concept-regulations
      .What conservatives do not understand is that------
      As a society we have decided that people won't starve to death-die of lack of medical treatment or of living out of doors....SORT OF. If the employer does not pay/benefits the employee enough then the taxpayer ends up providing these 'things'.
      As of now tax cuts rule the day-and the debt is out of control-just like both conservatives and liberals like.

    • @ammarhasan8466
      @ammarhasan8466 3 роки тому +9

      @Elias Håkansson well there is. What you have described in your verbose comment is the equilibrium achieved by supply-demand curves to decide for the price of services. What you missed out is that living wage is the sum of all expenses that come after living on bare minimum standards of living. It's not an arbitrary number, it's simply maths involving the function: addition.

  • @andrewlikestrains4138
    @andrewlikestrains4138 3 роки тому +2374

    I just want to mention that a lot of minimum wage workers aren’t actually students, they’re adults with children.
    EDIT: STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! I don’t know why you all say that we shouldn’t raise the minimum wage just because they’re all teenagers but then when someone points out they’re mostly people with kids you all just move the goalpost and say “it’s their fault though!” Just admit that you don’t think workers deserve to paid a living wage on only one job and go. And I hope next time you order fast food the staff spit in your drink, because why should they treat you with respect if you don’t treat them with respect?

    • @privateryan912
      @privateryan912 3 роки тому +34

      Mandatory abortions!

    • @mace1633
      @mace1633 3 роки тому +217

      @@privateryan912 wtf

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 3 роки тому +48

      Yes, they did something very wrong in their lives then.

    • @thefrank446
      @thefrank446 3 роки тому +47

      Ah, so the rest of us should pay for peoples bad decisions, kinda like health care.

    • @thefrank446
      @thefrank446 3 роки тому +50

      @sadman sad No. Take personal responsibility for yourself.

  • @Sugarman96
    @Sugarman96 3 роки тому +4971

    The fact that "should employers pay their employees a living wage?" is even a debated question is absolutely baffling to me.

    • @rickvandam3238
      @rickvandam3238 3 роки тому +590

      It's called America
      In UK they debated what was the minimum living space

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +890

      Yep, it’s madness

    • @rsync9490
      @rsync9490 3 роки тому +80

      Only in Murica.

    • @ericb.4313
      @ericb.4313 3 роки тому +215

      It seems like pretty common sense, give your workers enough to eat and not worry about money with and they'll be more productive than they normally are. The man who said that (albeit super paraphrased): Adam Smith.

    • @LiveType
      @LiveType 3 роки тому +63

      This is basically end game optimizations of capitalism. It's inevitable if there isn't some sort of regulatory force. Also doesn't help when "labor" boils down to a line item on a balance sheet.

  • @beesquestionmark
    @beesquestionmark 3 роки тому +650

    “Most minimum wage workers are young people” uhhh yeah you mean the people you expect to pay upwards of $100k for education? They deserve $7.25 an hour to pay that off? Yeah, ok.

    • @tMtFtU
      @tMtFtU 3 роки тому +65

      I swear dude. Politics are so "pick and choose" when debating serious problems. It's like no one wants to see the bigger picture

    • @xilencered7788
      @xilencered7788 3 роки тому +7

      @@draconusspiritus1037 dont get loans for a 100k degree. You can learn to weld for cheap and make more than you would with a 100k conflict resolution degree. Stop buying stupid trash. No iphone, no nice cars, nothing superficial, and you will get ahead.

    • @xilencered7788
      @xilencered7788 3 роки тому +2

      @@draconusspiritus1037 dont need them, I find my own education and work on my own skills. My business revenue is doubling this last quarter so my profits will be triple and allow me to open a third location. Self Taught. But I have been eyeing that google data analyst certificate. It sounds like something that could fetch me a nice salary while I work on my business, and apply it there too.

    • @Dan-Martin
      @Dan-Martin 3 роки тому +16

      @@xilencered7788 Sounds cringe

    • @EyeonthePrize247
      @EyeonthePrize247 3 роки тому +48

      @@xilencered7788 LMFAO. There are only so many trade jobs available. A college degree is necessary to shoe into most industries and sectors in today’s economy. Regardless if people earning such low wages were “not buying stupid ish” as you put it, there’s not exactly money leftover from our paychecks for it anyways.
      Working my full time day job and part time food service job, I have enough for my rent, car loan, student loan, phone, WiFi, insurance, gas, electric, health insurance and food. I am able to afford putting a tiny amount into my retirement because otherwise I can’t save a dime. Those are not exactly unnecessary expenses… they are the basics. I am thankful that I am able to cover those expenses, however, that is not the case for a lot of people. Moreover, legitimately all of my money is spoken for. I don’t have any money to save for a mortgage down payment, let alone for leisure or “luxury goods.” I’ve busted my ass for years now, gotten promotions where I could.
      We’re not lazy, we’re not entitled. People should not have to kill themselves to afford a life they can barely live and enjoy.

  • @Kaiyats
    @Kaiyats 3 роки тому +1963

    We used to be called unskilled workers we are now “essential workers”

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +196

      When you risk your life for $10 an hour, you're essential.
      When you don't, it's a starter job.

    • @TypeOneg
      @TypeOneg 3 роки тому +10

      @@grmpEqweer wildcat strikes

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +4

      @@TypeOneg
      👍😁

    • @Kaiyats
      @Kaiyats 3 роки тому +47

      @Romantic Warrior1 this is true we should create a workers party to demand more

    • @selfishcapitalist3523
      @selfishcapitalist3523 3 роки тому +7

      No, you're not essential. A Mexican Pablo can do your job at the fraction of your wage. Capitalists are the essential workers.

  • @guilhermecarvalho2026
    @guilhermecarvalho2026 3 роки тому +847

    the 'pull yourself up from your bootstraps' mentality is a very funny thing, 'cuz, you know, you cannot do that. The first uses of this sentence were actually about how that is impossible and ridiculous.

    • @cdub1059
      @cdub1059 3 роки тому +3

      What about the debate that minimum wage shouldn't exist at all? countries like China have been able to attract essential manufacturing due to low labor costs and benefited as a country over all. Their low level workers certainly don't earn a "living wage", but low wage is better than no wage and therefore less social instability (riots... etc.); basically, the lost job opportunities go to other Nations.
      Perhaps reality is just more cruel than we all would like to think? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I just genuinely want to know.

    • @who2807
      @who2807 3 роки тому +66

      @@cdub1059 Why are you copy and pasting the same paragraph

    • @yotubeification
      @yotubeification 3 роки тому +88

      @@cdub1059 but it doesn't benefit the whole country of China. It benefits both American Elites and the Chinese governmen, but rarely the people. American businesses make so much money off near slave-like chinese labour they don't mind having to give portions to the chinese elites who run the government there.
      The fact they have to put anti-suicide nets around the factorie's upper floors says a lot.

    • @Fafnd
      @Fafnd 3 роки тому +44

      @@cdub1059 that's not a debate and the West already tried that in the 19th century. It lead to unions, trust busting, violence from the capitalist class against workers, and revolutions. Also using China as your example is super ironic considering they became a COMMUNIST country in the early 20th century. Now their authoritarian capitalists who have a literally captive labor pool who they have been exploiting since the 80's and you want to emulate them. Honestly go somewhere else grifter your not welcome here.

    • @Dachusblot
      @Dachusblot 3 роки тому +46

      @@cdub1059 The South was prosperous back when we had slavery. Does that mean slavery is okay? Just because something is profitable doesn't mean it's healthy, just or acceptable. The world is indeed a cruel place, but our response to that shouldn't be to give up and resign ourselves to misery; it should be to try to _make it better._

  • @DjangoRaisuli
    @DjangoRaisuli 3 роки тому +799

    "Divide and conquer" is still a depressingly effective tool.

    • @NishanthRajiwtbawlb
      @NishanthRajiwtbawlb 3 роки тому +34

      I think people are realising, and that is the first step to class solifarity

    • @DjangoRaisuli
      @DjangoRaisuli 3 роки тому +28

      ​@@NishanthRajiwtbawlb One can only hope.
      The problem I see that no ruling party wants to minimize the big business influence in government, because they would be hurting their own possible futures in those companies.
      I think we would need more idealists in politics and less career politicians.

    • @garr_inc
      @garr_inc 3 роки тому +12

      @@DjangoRaisuli
      The issue there is actually surviving with your ideals in these parties. If you are the only moral person in the political party you would likely be bended or discarded.

    • @DjangoRaisuli
      @DjangoRaisuli 3 роки тому +19

      @@garr_inc Which loops back to reducing lobbying and getting money out of politics.

    • @inkoalawetrust
      @inkoalawetrust 3 роки тому +1

      It has always and will always be an effective tool for as long as more than two humans are alive.

  • @_annoyed4692
    @_annoyed4692 Рік тому +201

    If flipping burgers is a "low skilled" job for "students" and doesn't need to be paid living wages I'm sure the people understand that McDonalds is closed during school hours.

    • @davidt8087
      @davidt8087 Рік тому

      11:52.. "Americans are so greedy, selfish, and individualistic that whenever someone of a "lower class"/pay grade comes within even 1 cent of earning the same they do, they flip out and fight against it even though by doing so they destroy their own cause and prove themselves to be willing and happy slaves with no freedom to their enslavers". I embellished it a little but this is SPOT ON and ive been making similar comments in every video. Even now some loser will make excuses for it because they KNOW that they are exactpy the type who want to see themselves making more money than the rest, because their greed makes them delusional to the point that they think they'll make it at the very top even though that Will NEVER HAPPEN STATISTICALLY. Some people are insecure losers they'd rather have NOTHING and be abused with everyone and falsely believe they will "make it" and get to.be exploiters one day, then live equally wjth everyone that they constantly feel like they "compete" with. Sad insecure losers they are

    • @nonelast4152
      @nonelast4152 Рік тому +30

      NOOOOO YOU CANT USE LOGIC :(((((

    • @cassady7169
      @cassady7169 Рік тому +4

      It is a low skill job that anyone can do, which is why the pay is so low. You putting it in quotations doesn’t change that fact.

    • @energeticstunts993
      @energeticstunts993 Рік тому +27

      @@cassady7169 low skill job doesn't mean less stressful. I work as a waiter, I'm a student and therefore can rely on my parents but what about students that can't? what if you just want a gym membership, maybe travel a bit as a student but your parents don't earn enough to support you so you lose out on many opportunities simply because a 200 billion dollar company refuses to pay you a livable wage. The disrespect towards service workers is disgusting

    • @cassady7169
      @cassady7169 Рік тому +2

      @@energeticstunts993 No, they are in fact more stressful and labor intensive than higher skilled jobs. However, anyone can learn them quickly. I worked in restaurants for years, first as a busser then as a waiter, and trained multiple people to do those jobs. Other than the menu and POS system which can take some time to learn, most people picked up the job in one shift. This is why the pay is so low for these jobs, everyone who does them is almost instantly replaceable. Thankfully, waiters make tips and can earn well above any minimum wage job.

  • @akaviral5476
    @akaviral5476 3 роки тому +461

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    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +61

      Glad to hear it!

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      @chickrepelant 3 роки тому +6

      S A M E ! !

    • @thatweirdguy2821
      @thatweirdguy2821 3 роки тому +2

      same

    • @FletchforFreedom
      @FletchforFreedom 3 роки тому

      And what do you do with the fact that essentially every claim made on this channel is completely wrong?

    • @soledieairvideos5974
      @soledieairvideos5974 3 роки тому +2

      @@FletchforFreedom have you thought that maybe you aren't really thinking when you watch the videos and instead you go straight to the comments? Because if you even listen with the slightest interest you realize that this all makes sense on the basis of peer common sense.

  • @joshuaneff2283
    @joshuaneff2283 3 роки тому +743

    It’s all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps.
    Martin Luther King Jr

    • @ejensen
      @ejensen 3 роки тому +87

      There is a special kind of sadism in telling people that what they need to do to be successful is to break the laws of physics... I mean unironically telling people that they are expected to do the impossible, and implying that that expectation is entirely reasonable truly is next level.

    • @LiveType
      @LiveType 3 роки тому +14

      @@ejensen I don't remember where I heard this but there was the statement: "An individual can lift themselves out of poverty, but to lift an entire population is all but impossible". This I feel is true or else you wouldn't hear stories about it.
      The US is showing signs of internal collapse which is really bad. If in the next few years emigration increases then the US has officially peaked.

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 3 роки тому +36

      "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps." is classic survivership bias.

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit 3 роки тому +7

      Even Henry Ford paid his workers pretty well, apparently enough that could pull themselves and their families up simply by having a job.

    • @austinhernandez2716
      @austinhernandez2716 3 роки тому +16

      @@Marzsala I'm staying in America, but I will be devoting my entire life to fighting hard to making a change.

  • @grege5074
    @grege5074 3 роки тому +753

    "the minimum wage, lowest amount legally possible...they'd like to pay me less, legally they can't!"
    -David Cross

    • @cdub1059
      @cdub1059 3 роки тому +7

      What about the debate that minimum wage shouldn't exist at all? countries like China have been able to attract essential manufacturing due to low labor costs and benefited as a country over all. Their low level workers certainly don't earn a "living wage", but low wage is better than no wage and therefore less social instability (riots... etc.); basically, the lost job opportunities go to other Nations.
      Perhaps reality is just more cruel than we all would like to think? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I just genuinely want to know.

    • @somkeshav4143
      @somkeshav4143 3 роки тому +40

      @@cdub1059 Pretty sure sweatshop labor in China is a much worse situation to be in than where the US is right now.

    • @zacheryeckard3051
      @zacheryeckard3051 3 роки тому +53

      @@cdub1059 China exploiting their workers isn't an argument for no minimum wage. Have you seen conditions in China? Their workers ARE exploited.
      If we didn't buy their goods, they wouldn't be able to exploit the workers. The US is effectively allowing and enforcing that garbage.

    • @dany8822
      @dany8822 3 роки тому +30

      @@cdub1059 There are so many stories of worker suicides at chinese manufacturing plants-think of the “suicide nets” at Foxconn in Shenzhen. I’m sorry, but I’d rather say that they deserve better just as US and all workers deserve a better life than that. It’s called solidarity for a reason.

    • @kennyv1854
      @kennyv1854 3 роки тому +5

      Actually they can, and all they have to do is label it as tipped labor, at least in the US.

  • @daborinkid7279
    @daborinkid7279 3 роки тому +787

    "hOusIng PriCes wiLl riSe" they will rise regardless of the minimum wage rising

    • @afa304
      @afa304 3 роки тому +21

      I love how people say this and then ignore that the most expensive cities in the US have the highest minimum wages. Singapore and Sweden don't have minimum wages and people make more money than we do here.
      Did you know the minimum wage was created to prevent minorities from getting jobs? Weird ya'll support it

    • @daborinkid7279
      @daborinkid7279 3 роки тому +88

      @@afa304 they have the highest minimum wages to cope with the housing prices, more people in a city= higher prices

    • @bighotchip4231
      @bighotchip4231 3 роки тому +9

      @@daborinkid7279 Then how does Singapore survive. They do not have a minimum wage yet their workers are some of the most compensated in the world. They do not have any government involvement in healthcare yet it is one of the cheapest and high quality healthcare systems in the world.

    • @errorcringyname4044
      @errorcringyname4044 3 роки тому +2

      Not everywhere, but a minimum wage will raise prices massivly

    • @bighotchip4231
      @bighotchip4231 3 роки тому

      @@errorcringyname4044 I can attest to this working in a fast food restaurant. My state plans to raise the minimum wage over the next 5 years to $15/hour. To compensate, we are raising prices, quite substantially, along with every other business affected by the new law.

  • @Pre-Omniscient
    @Pre-Omniscient 3 роки тому +505

    "If the minimum wage increased then the price of everything would go up"
    Newsflash! The price of everything is going up anyway. Nothing is priced for people making minimum wage.

    • @rickyricardo69
      @rickyricardo69 3 роки тому +11

      bc we are already 22 trillion in debt and the democrats keep spending money we dont have which is paid for by the tax payers who dont put their money in tax havens aka the middle class. these new wage laws student loan forgiveness and other federal spending will destroy the economy

    • @Sugarman96
      @Sugarman96 3 роки тому +99

      @@rickyricardo69 Then maybe the US government should stop spending so much money on the military if it can't afford to actually help its own citizens.

    • @rickyricardo69
      @rickyricardo69 3 роки тому +4

      @@Sugarman96 i agree

    • @tiger_lord305
      @tiger_lord305 3 роки тому +64

      @@rickyricardo69 Republicans passed a $4.5 trillion dollar corporate bailout. Republicans don’t like spending money when it comes to helping people and Dems don’t do nearly enough.

    • @emilychb6621
      @emilychb6621 3 роки тому +61

      @@rickyricardo69 uhm? Wasn't the last 4 years a Republican presidency? Might want to check who added Trillions to national debt. Increasing it by over 30%(!).
      Like how does that argument even make sense? It's republicans who add to national debt by cutting the taxes for the rich and rich business.

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    @user-pr6gn2un8z 3 роки тому +263

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      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +60

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    • @oomar4597
      @oomar4597 3 роки тому +9

      @@SecondThought YOOOOOO

    • @CaptainNeckbeard
      @CaptainNeckbeard 3 роки тому

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  • @mary9983
    @mary9983 3 роки тому +309

    Why is it ok to not pay "beginner jobs" a living wage? Its demeans kids and people in those jobs, as if they're not human enough to live. It's psychotic.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 3 роки тому +22

      Because many people believe some jobs have value and others do not. A ceo makes $100 million and it's ok. But a waiter making $100k is too much.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 3 роки тому +4

      @Ishaan Singh if it was cheaper it would've been done already.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 3 роки тому +5

      @Ishaan Singh not what i mean, i mean have nothing but self checkouts. and they're doing that not because workers are too expensive, because machines don't need full time hours, overtime, healthcare or paid time off. they're making the same amount of money with less workers and paying the workers picking up the slack exactly the same.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 3 роки тому +1

      @tjuyftutjyfudt we can redistribute and redefine the value we give to any job.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 3 роки тому

      @tjuyftutjyfudt okay...

  • @nickgov66
    @nickgov66 3 роки тому +126

    One thing not mentioned, the US minimum wage includes overtime and tips, in the UK this is illegal, which is why you do not get waiting staff chasing customers down the street demanding tips. The employers should pay their employees a living wage, they should not have to rely on metaphorical scraps from the customers table, after all no one tips bus drivers or shop assistants.

    • @iamcosma7065
      @iamcosma7065 3 роки тому +5

      I would love to see your reaction when you tell servers they have to go from making hundreds of dollars in cash each night, to making a "living wage" of $15 dollars an hour which is taxed.

    • @nickgov66
      @nickgov66 3 роки тому +21

      @@iamcosma7065 It works everywhere else in the world 🌎.

    • @jgdooley2003
      @jgdooley2003 3 роки тому +21

      @@iamcosma7065 They don't make 100's of dollars in cash every night. Most customers will only tip the bare minimum they can get away with if at all. What happens if the chef is in bad form and the food is substandard? Who takes the hit for the inevitable drop in satisfaction and tips received???
      THer might have been a time in the past with a strongly paid middle class that tips were adequate to bolster compensation but with almost every american worker now on starvation wages I doubt if tipping is as generous as it once was.

    • @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
      @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 2 роки тому

      I’ve never heard of a waiter doing that. And it depends on the state. I work a minimum wage job where I get tipped and the tips are counted separately.

    • @ccs4959
      @ccs4959 Рік тому

      The law is actually that tipped workers may work at $2.13 an hour. If their total doesn’t meet minimum wage (I work 8 hours, and only make $4.50 an hour including tips, instead of federal/state minimum) then the employer is expected to pay the difference. This is shitty business practice, and many employers will pay minimum wage regardless, and your tips are counted separate. If they’re not, they’re a shit business owner and that business will bust in no time. People were keen to push this as a reason for outrage over here, without actually reading the law w/ examples.

  • @n.d.1011
    @n.d.1011 3 роки тому +241

    To add to the “price increase” debate, the average good price in New Zealand is 3.76% more (Including rent) than when compared to the United States, but the minimum wage is TWICE as high.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 3 роки тому +8

      i'm not sure you can draw a ratio like that

    • @joaquinjr2570
      @joaquinjr2570 3 роки тому +12

      Well why would you bring up Nee Zealand which is a island all the way across the world. How about looking at states or provinces in canda for a more accurate description. Minimum wage has moved to +3 dollars in NJ over the past like 4 years and everything is relatively the same price tbh

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace 3 роки тому +22

      @@007kingifrit i think that's part of the point
      The minimum wage isn't the reason things cost an amount

    • @Sentient_Blob
      @Sentient_Blob 3 роки тому +4

      I’m pretty sure the isolated nature of New Zealand would increase prices even further due to transport, so a 40 percent price increase would be a large overestimate in regards to how much minimum wage effects prices

    • @n.d.1011
      @n.d.1011 3 роки тому +4

      @@Sentient_Blob I averaged out all of these to get 42.88%, you can double check the math, but it's within margin of error.

  • @totallynotme6720
    @totallynotme6720 3 роки тому +1573

    me: You don't have paid parental leave, which is unlike any other developed nation?
    American workers: yes.
    me: you can and do go homeless because your child has cancer and you can't afford treatment?
    American workers: yes.
    me: your productivity has risen over 60% but wages only rose 11%?
    American workers: yes.
    me: maybe we should unionize and collectively bargain for basic rights.
    American workers: NOOOOOO COMMIEEEEE!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
    :/
    Jokes aside, the American people have been convinced through decades of propaganda that the US is the best. American exceptionalism and McCarthyism have convinced generations that the abhorrent worker's rights are not just acceptable, but exceptional. Its videos like this that are offering not radicalization, but the truth of the classes. Keep up the good work.

    • @teehee4096
      @teehee4096 3 роки тому +30

      @trey darling itd be 24 today

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 3 роки тому +16

      American workers should unionize and ua-cam.com/video/1ZjCftwyQWg/v-deo.html

    • @themadman5615
      @themadman5615 3 роки тому +24

      As an American I have to say this is true for most of us, but some do crawl out of the mud to see the stars ahead
      Edit: Got dang autocorrect screwing me off like the government

    • @i17-q4h
      @i17-q4h 3 роки тому +45

      I know that americans are probably sick of us europeans starting our sentences with "we in Europe..."😂 but i have to say that im in shock that minimum wage hasnt rise from 2009😮 even Croatia, one of poorest EU countries, rises minimum vage every year, in last 4 years its 100 euros more than before that. Which is not a small amount for our living costs

    • @cdub1059
      @cdub1059 3 роки тому +6

      What about the debate that minimum wage shouldn't exist at all? countries like China have been able to attract essential manufacturing due to low labor costs and benefited as a country over all. Their low level workers certainly don't earn a "living wage", but low wage is better than no wage and therefore less social instability (riots... etc.); basically, the lost job opportunities go to other Nations.
      Perhaps reality is just more cruel than we all would like to think? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I just genuinely want to know.

  • @Cokk9ine
    @Cokk9ine 3 роки тому +844

    These videos are so high quality I can’t believe we get to watch this for free

    • @ralphsosera3698
      @ralphsosera3698 3 роки тому +14

      Ask yourself first, how does youtube manage to stay in business? And second, why do youtubers work hard on making sure you comment, like and subscribe. Why does the number of subscribers matter?

    • @wilkinscoffee4228
      @wilkinscoffee4228 3 роки тому +20

      @@ralphsosera3698 likes and subs = success in youtube terms which means sponsors will pay more and your content is recommended more.

    • @silverbackwamahiu535
      @silverbackwamahiu535 3 роки тому +1

      True

    • @appleicatpromax7069
      @appleicatpromax7069 3 роки тому

      Barely

    • @sakmadik69420
      @sakmadik69420 3 роки тому +4

      Hmm i mean...You still have to pay indirectly for internet costs and watching ads.

  • @TomRivieremusic
    @TomRivieremusic 3 роки тому +827

    "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." --Voltaire

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 3 роки тому +77

      As I once saw a meme say
      Children with leukemia

    • @owah
      @owah 3 роки тому +25

      terminally ill children?

    • @paulsiegel4439
      @paulsiegel4439 3 роки тому +8

      right now that is the radical left who shouts anyone down that does not agree with them.

    • @Luckanio
      @Luckanio 3 роки тому +45

      @@awhahoo "It's time to rise up against children with leukemia!"

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 3 роки тому +2

      @@Luckanio Yes!

  • @winters1942
    @winters1942 3 роки тому +328

    Every time someone goes "Well the price will increase if we raise the minimum wage." I go "Then go ask for a pay cut that way the price will go down."

    • @makarov718
      @makarov718 3 роки тому +21

      i like that, im going to start using that

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +2

      Theyre nkt gonna self sacrifice xd

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +5

      And yes raising the minimum wage that fast will cause extreme price rises

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +3

      Although if the businesses stop being oligopolies then were fine still worried about tiny businesses

    • @winters1942
      @winters1942 3 роки тому +12

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw Of course they not going to self sacrifice. Yet I do agree that raising the minimum wage will cause prices to increase, but we have already seen prices increase without a wage increase. The problem is as you said how to deal with the problem without hurting small/tiny businesses. One way, which is being used, is to base the wage off how many employees a company has. However as we have seen from the Covid Relief bill for businesses, some larger/split up companies where claiming money meant for others.
      If history has taught us anything, I can see us going through another Industrial revolution era of workers vs businesses. Like how what happen with the 1892 Homestead strike.

  • @nuclearsimian3281
    @nuclearsimian3281 3 роки тому +977

    Paraphrasing John Steinbeck, Ronald Wright said it well: “Socialism
    never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an
    exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrased millionaires”

    • @jacob_massengale
      @jacob_massengale 3 роки тому +24

      Damn

    • @chillcapybaracitrus
      @chillcapybaracitrus 3 роки тому +13

      Depending wether you are right or left wing, this quote can have drasticallly different meanings.

    • @kidsmipad8324
      @kidsmipad8324 3 роки тому +8

      It's kinda true since most of the support for socialism in America that I've seen are from melenials that aren't in poverty

    • @mediterraneanmint89
      @mediterraneanmint89 3 роки тому +33

      Believe it or not, we used to have socialists. We still do, but they’re pushed to the fringes and not taken seriously. We can’t do propaganda like the capitalists can. It’s hard to sell people on socialism when we’ve been taught all our lives that capitalism is the best thing this world has ever seen and will ever see. It’s truly sad to see the lack of class consciousness as the working class is being exploited more and more as time goes on. We are working more hours for the same money. Housing costs, healthcare, education prices are all increasing. It seems the old folk who made it through don’t realize things are actually getting harder, and they don’t want to make it easier for young people. We’ve come to see the insane amount of work we do as a way of life. Like if someone works 50 hours a week, we rarely say “that is ridiculous, nobody should have to do that.” Instead we say “good on him, hes a hard working American.” It is certainly that belief that if you just work hard enough, salvation is around the corner. Few people ever see it

    • @44remingtonmagnum53
      @44remingtonmagnum53 3 роки тому +4

      @@mediterraneanmint89 Yknow the reason capitalist propaganda works is really because other nations that tried have failed miserably and you can't rewrite history saying that China or Cambodia or the USSR became the most prosperous nation in the world because of socialism. So, while i don't like capitalism, it's impossible for socialism to succeed it. Best you can have is the Nordic model but don't frame it as socialism or they will use the same argument

  • @Runie549
    @Runie549 3 роки тому +797

    "Starter jobs" is an absolute bullcrap term anyways. Without starter jobs, no one's going to make your burger, take orders, stock the shelves, clean the crappers, server your dinner, drive you when you don't have access to a car, build said car, deliver you that fancy new item you ordered online, and I could keep going. Regardless of all other considerations, these are essential jobs, and they, and indeed ALL jobs, deserve to be paid living wages.

    • @baconknightproductions8297
      @baconknightproductions8297 3 роки тому +56

      "Starter Jobs" imply that these jobs aren't necessary, but that term is used for anything but. The term "Essential Worker" and "Starter Jobs" are typically used together.

    • @shaereub4450
      @shaereub4450 3 роки тому +18

      You get enough to survive. Want to live? Make more. Get a second source of income or add value that builds the company (which is different than just doing your job for 30 years).

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 3 роки тому +74

      @@shaereub4450 go look to any graph comparing minimum wage to productivity over the years to see how BS that "add value to the company" line is and then stop bootlicking.

    • @aidancollins1591
      @aidancollins1591 3 роки тому +59

      @@shaereub4450 No, they do not, their wages must be subsidized by social programs. A system where one needs to "hustle" in order to live is a bad system.

    • @theharmelodynetwork
      @theharmelodynetwork 3 роки тому +5

      @@dynamicworlds1 yes but productivity increases are usually due to technological gains. its not that the person making 7 bucks an hour is working harder than they did in the 1960's, its that they have technology now that wasn't available then.

  • @Ahdtsjjjtdyhjryik
    @Ahdtsjjjtdyhjryik 3 роки тому +365

    lol "The strange American delusion that one day you'll be rich"

    • @LukeMcGuireoides
      @LukeMcGuireoides 3 роки тому +49

      A sucker is born every minute

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb 3 роки тому +6

      There are many ways you can get rich through the internet or by becoming a highly-paid actor if you do not want to be stuck with a 9-to-5 job. Just search for these UA-cam videos and learn how to make money online that you can convert into real money. That is what I am doing.

    • @dominusnoobus1589
      @dominusnoobus1589 3 роки тому +3

      Not entirely true because there are high demand jobs that are promising to make you good honest money and even more as you work hard and gain experience. Like in the trades center

    • @dominusnoobus1589
      @dominusnoobus1589 3 роки тому +4

      Like how my dad says it. There are many opportunities in this country, its just that people born here don't take advantage of it

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb 3 роки тому +4

      @@dominusnoobus1589 Of course! The internet gives you plenty of new ways to make money independently and legally, and there are many UA-cam videos by people who have shared their experience with that.

  • @thatsmallcessna8300
    @thatsmallcessna8300 3 роки тому +61

    The U.S. spends so much on defense, I think they forgot they needed a country to defend.

    • @gabrielbarbosa7882
      @gabrielbarbosa7882 3 роки тому +1

      I mean, "defense" is the term they use when INVADING other places. It doesn't serve the country, it serves corporate interests.

  • @KodiaxeMusic
    @KodiaxeMusic 3 роки тому +249

    6:18 Imagine selling out the entire working class for $0.27 cents. Mr. Krabs only sold SpongeBob's soul for $0.62.

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb 3 роки тому +9

      Scary stuff, am I right? At least then in Born Again Krabs, Squidward got Mr. Krabs to realize 62 cents was not worth giving Spongebob away, even if he could have gotten more.

    • @Brindlebrother
      @Brindlebrother 2 роки тому +2

      You think he could have gotten more?

  • @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
    @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 3 роки тому +513

    What makes this so egregious is that western countries have more than enough money to raise the minimum wage, but they choose not to whilst the price of food, clothing, and bills rise.

    • @Bertuzz84
      @Bertuzz84 3 роки тому +30

      Where i live, it is simply adjusted for inflation every year.

    • @cakeisyummy5755
      @cakeisyummy5755 3 роки тому +12

      @@Bertuzz84 That happens in France and Australia, i think.

    • @MattyIceBJJ
      @MattyIceBJJ 3 роки тому +7

      You remember a dollar menu at fast food places? I remember McDonald's, Wendy's, etc having a dollar menu. Each item was exactly 1 dollar. The only fast food place now with an actual dollar menu is Taco Bell. McDonald's only has 2 Mcchickens for $2 now, nothing else on the menu is a dollar.
      Wendy's went from having a Dollar Menu to having a Value Menu, which everything is like 2 dollars for a little sandwich. I miss the days of dollar menu.

    • @leehooper7063
      @leehooper7063 3 роки тому +10

      Not true second taught Explained that even in countries that are much poorer they treat them better as a employee the only country who doesn't is the US not. the west Europe, not west society its a USA problem sadly.

    • @hinkich1
      @hinkich1 3 роки тому +15

      i live in a big city in france, and i could pay rent (2 rooms) and other expenses only by working part time ( 28 hrs/week) with minimum wage

  • @unixtreme
    @unixtreme 3 роки тому +532

    Being a teacher should be a high paying job. In many countries it is.

    • @rackets7991
      @rackets7991 3 роки тому +25

      LMAO..Teachers are the reason we have so many ignorant and unemployable graduates.. The average graduate is a functional illiterate without the skills to qualify for a job.. Math is a foreign language to them.. Charter schools produce educated students at half the cost.. Religious schools have been doing the same for decades..Look in the mirror to see your problem..You need to see some Dr. Thomas Sowell interviews.

    • @haruhidaso
      @haruhidaso 3 роки тому +100

      @@rackets7991 maybe because the teacher do not get payed fair amount so skillful and intelligent adult don’t want to become one. Ever thought about that?

    • @dailyrant4068
      @dailyrant4068 3 роки тому +10

      @@haruhidaso Or maybe Americans have a lot of issues culturally that a lot of them think it's good to be stupid. I'm not even talking about classes of people or anything but across the entire spectrum you see far more stupid people than elsewhere. You have dumb rich people everywhere too.

    • @thatcrazyguy834
      @thatcrazyguy834 3 роки тому +4

      Good teachers are paid well because they work hard and are effective private school teachers

    • @haruhidaso
      @haruhidaso 3 роки тому +33

      @@thatcrazyguy834 And that’s why there’s a huge disparity in education level between rich and poor community. Is it poor kids’ fault that the only education they can get is laughable public education?

  • @marshallhenderson2382
    @marshallhenderson2382 3 роки тому +140

    Just because I'm a student doesn't mean I want to live with my parents lol.

    • @glowanastole
      @glowanastole 3 роки тому +23

      Yeah, this argument is so backwards, one could conclude that a large chunk of people shouldn't be paid a living wage because they can all live with their parents, regardless of age or student status

    • @leonardu6094
      @leonardu6094 3 роки тому +9

      "Just because I'm broke doesn't mean i shouldn't be able to buy a mansion"

    • @britishcodfish1472
      @britishcodfish1472 3 роки тому +20

      @@leonardu6094 ...wat?

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 3 роки тому +6

      @@leonardu6094 Guess what Leonard? there is a vast gulf between $7.25 per hour, and $1000 per hour, or whatever $figure it takes, to buy a mansion. Perhaps you should attempt to think before commenting.

    • @leonardu6094
      @leonardu6094 3 роки тому +8

      @@Dennzer1 Imagine going to your boss and demanding he pay you higher just because you don't want to live with mom and dad. As if that's his problem not yours.

  • @paulisconi2264
    @paulisconi2264 3 роки тому +349

    Requiring corporations to have 50% of their board elected by labor would be cool

    • @jackbrown3985
      @jackbrown3985 3 роки тому +61

      Forget 50% democratize the whole thing!

    • @acutechicken5798
      @acutechicken5798 3 роки тому +37

      That would be cool, but it would mean we would have a 50% market socialist economy, when we should have a 100% socialist economy of some sort.

    • @nolanross6572
      @nolanross6572 3 роки тому +10

      That's a good start!

    • @_tsu_
      @_tsu_ 3 роки тому +3

      thats pretty dumb ngl

    • @Aditya-sn4sr
      @Aditya-sn4sr 3 роки тому +33

      Worker Coops and workplace democracy is the way forward in a post-capitalist society

  • @dearyvettetn4489
    @dearyvettetn4489 3 роки тому +273

    I witnessed a Twitter war where an older woman was b!tching at “lazy students” for taking out education loans because SHE was able to work her way through school...in the fricken 70’s. These are the votes that young people need to show up over and over again and counter. Despite this woman’s “education” she still believed that higher education and wages have kept pace. What rock had she been living under?

    • @theoldfinalchapters8319
      @theoldfinalchapters8319 3 роки тому +32

      "Hey, yeah, it'd be great if these students could just work at a summer job that doesn't require any specialized skills and be able to afford college."

    • @srpenguinbr
      @srpenguinbr 3 роки тому +11

      heck, even Brazil updates the minimum wage according to inflation. Today it's 200 dollars a month, I think they kinda lied in the inflation numbers. I was also 200 dollars in 2007 but only because our currency is broken. It was almost 350 in January 2012.

    • @AzetheReal
      @AzetheReal 3 роки тому +5

      Well to be fair, all information learned in school can be learned at home by reading a book, watching UA-cam, and the jobs acquired by getting a few hundred dollar certification online.

    • @lordbunbury
      @lordbunbury 3 роки тому +19

      In 1979, it took a student working at minimum wage ($2.90 per hour) 385.5 hours to pay off one year of the average college tuition.
      If a student worked a full-time job (40 hours a week) for an entire summer, he or she would have worked 480 hours.
      Each year, the average student spends 1,020 hours studying and in class.
      The average full-time American employee works 2,000 hours a year.
      Today, it takes 2,229 hours working at the federal minimum wage ($7.25 per hour) to pay off one year of the average college tuition.
      To be both enrolled in school full-time and work enough at $7.25 per hour to pay off one year of the average college tuition would take a student 3,249 hours.
      The average American is awake for 6,278 hours each year.
      It would take 7,049 hours to work off one-year’s tuition at Columbia at $7.25 per hour. There are 8,760 hours in a year.

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 3 роки тому +9

      People like that are just as bigoted as white people who assume that the interracial wealth gap is due to laziness.

  • @winstonalf
    @winstonalf 3 роки тому +238

    The system was not designed to benefit you and me.

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 роки тому +20

      It's a club, and you ain't in it.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +2

      No it was xd read the basic premise of how ideally capitalism was meant to work

    • @maibaolinh1253
      @maibaolinh1253 3 роки тому +3

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw It was meant to work with child labour, overtime workers and zero pay, just like their primitive form. Or should I say its true nature?

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому

      @@maibaolinh1253 my goodness it was not designed for that by definition capitalism is designed to work automatically most efficiently and with the least effort by the government for the best results

    • @maibaolinh1253
      @maibaolinh1253 3 роки тому +3

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw Yeah yeah, with the child labour, overworked, underpaid workers. See, maximum efficiency, minimum government intervention for the best result is the wealth of the employers. How novel!

  • @TurtleChad1
    @TurtleChad1 3 роки тому +1242

    An awesome turtle has certified this video with a Turtle Badge of Approval.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +386

      Thank u mr turtle, very cool

    • @haroldinho9930
      @haroldinho9930 3 роки тому +40

      How many other videos got the turtle badge of approval?

    • @haroldinho9930
      @haroldinho9930 3 роки тому +40

      @@SecondThought Congratulations on 1million subscribers

    • @comradepolarbear6920
      @comradepolarbear6920 3 роки тому +4

      You were on that optimus video

    • @ZERO_O7X
      @ZERO_O7X 3 роки тому +7

      @@haroldinho9930 he's popular among several lefty channels but I see him on Hasanabis videos the most.

  • @dirtycommie2877
    @dirtycommie2877 3 роки тому +283

    "Temporarily embarrassed millionaires" is the reason there will never be an incentive to increase the minimum wage to a living wage.

    • @brigandboy1425
      @brigandboy1425 3 роки тому +3

      Sure. It's "the" reason. Not destroying small businesses, disrupting local economies, increasing corruption, increasing unemployment... none of those things. Just the other one.

    • @dirtycommie2877
      @dirtycommie2877 3 роки тому +46

      ​@@brigandboy1425 You just described the U.S. as it currently is. But go off.

    • @rackets7991
      @rackets7991 3 роки тому +4

      There is no such thing as a living wage..Wages are paid based on training, experience and the market..Want high pay, get a skill needed.. You dont get paid based on how much it costs you to live..Or how you want to live...Business go bust every day. people risking life savings to improve their life.. You want it given to you...Arent you SPECIAL..

    • @mongopoe5099
      @mongopoe5099 3 роки тому +35

      @@rackets7991 there is such thing as a living wage. You are ignoring history

    • @patricksaxon3983
      @patricksaxon3983 3 роки тому +1

      It is not their fault that you are poor, what are you doing to help them make more money?

  • @Andre-Vids
    @Andre-Vids 3 роки тому +170

    In a country which renamed "Personnel Departments" to "Human Resources", is this any wonder? To the US, workers are equipment, not humans.

    • @cdub1059
      @cdub1059 3 роки тому +2

      What about the debate that minimum wage shouldn't exist at all? countries like China have been able to attract essential manufacturing due to low labor costs and benefited as a country over all. Their low level workers certainly don't earn a "living wage", but low wage is better than no wage and therefore less social instability (riots... etc.); basically, the lost job opportunities go to other Nations.
      Perhaps reality is just more cruel than we all would like to think? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I just genuinely want to know.

    • @maryakage5197
      @maryakage5197 3 роки тому +26

      @@cdub1059 China is not known to be very humane. It should not be an example. That's like saying Nazi Germany should be the template for how Jewish people are treated. It's ludicrous.

    • @paxmeier915
      @paxmeier915 3 роки тому +14

      @@cdub1059 also if you aren't earning a "living wage", then you cant really, well, live.

    • @AndrewManook
      @AndrewManook 3 роки тому +2

      @@cdub1059 China has minimum wage, stop spreading misinformation.

    • @AndrewManook
      @AndrewManook 3 роки тому +3

      @@maryakage5197 What's ludicrous is you swallowing right wing propaganda like it's fact.

  • @vincegonzalez2171
    @vincegonzalez2171 3 роки тому +338

    Second Thought is a savage! "Oh, you're worried that increasing the minimum wage will cause small businesses to go under? Well, then maybe those businesses shouldn't be operating anyway."

    • @darkylord2545
      @darkylord2545 3 роки тому +13

      my only problem is this makes it hard to start a business, which it all ready is considering how expensive one can be. It seems like this would make it a lot easier for monoplis to form. Cause I mean whos going to be able to start a new Walmart if your starting out with 100k, while walmart who started before the wage and standard was raised makes 100k a day. Best bet they would buy your company out from you like what disney does

    • @hinkich1
      @hinkich1 3 роки тому +32

      @@darkylord2545 how are businesses starting in France or in Australia ??

    • @jonanice
      @jonanice 3 роки тому +45

      @@darkylord2545 did u not listen to the full statement.. You have to count wages into your basic necessities, if you can’t pay people, you need to have a business a living wage, then yeah- that’s that. Otherwise the alternative is exploitation & that’s should not be okay

    • @danielkirpichnikov2007
      @danielkirpichnikov2007 3 роки тому +3

      i saw someone want a money to pay for court that allow to open his business because by the law other companies are disagree with that so by that reason he can't operate.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +3

      I think small businesses can be maintained if we increase the minimum wage slowly

  • @TheJazzMan333
    @TheJazzMan333 3 роки тому +201

    "27 cents is apparently the difference between respecting your workers and considering them stupid, morally deficient, low-skill workers" That. That's the key line.

    • @andrewbaker4652
      @andrewbaker4652 3 роки тому +3

      Somehow I don't think the difference is really 27 cents. The customer may only pay that much more but I am pretty sure the owners have to make decently less profit too in order to give all those benefits to the workers. I'm not saying that is a bad thing but something tells me that 27 cents is not the whole story.

    • @gbombmr6125
      @gbombmr6125 3 роки тому +24

      @@andrewbaker4652 “oh no instead of making 5 billion this year we only made the meager 4.9 billion this year!”

    • @MrAapasuo
      @MrAapasuo 3 роки тому +8

      @@andrewbaker4652
      Consider that its not 27 cents for one customer but all.
      27 cents for thousands of customers racks up pretty quickly

    • @spikefivefivefive
      @spikefivefivefive 3 роки тому

      It's the same logic that promotes illegal immigration.
      If we enforced the law, and paid legal workers a living wage, the cost of fruits and vegetables would go up.
      They would.
      About 6%

    • @JastwatchingYT
      @JastwatchingYT 3 роки тому +2

      @@MrAapasuo How many burgers would you buy that 27 cents racks up too quickly for an individual?
      This is not a clap back this is an actual question.

  • @frostbite3820
    @frostbite3820 3 роки тому +86

    I was always pretty good at history in school and I always thought it would be completely useless...then I grew up and started paying attention to politics and realized being good at history makes for an informed voter.

    • @Frodo1000000
      @Frodo1000000 3 роки тому +2

      Props for a proactive and solutions-oriented attitude.

  • @tomimated1638
    @tomimated1638 3 роки тому +169

    I’m a minor so I get a much lower wage than my peers at Mcdonalds, however I am still paid much better than the American minimum wage.(Australia).

    • @Kaiyats
      @Kaiyats 3 роки тому +17

      I am from the U.K. and McDonalds was my first part time job I remember I was being paid £5.50 an hour at 16 and I would work 5 hour shifts the work was tiring and boring eventually they cut my shifts down to one a week and I remember seeing my payment for my hard work and see the managers counting stacks upon stacks of cash which is only the cash the store makes no idea how much they make on card and I was so sad that we were the ones working our asses off and I only got £30 for the entire day I ended up not showing up for work.

    • @OneNidim
      @OneNidim 3 роки тому +5

      I live in America and work at a local food chain. I too get payed better than the minimum wage because I actually put effort in. The arguments put forth by this video is bullshit. If people beg for living wages but still don’t put effort into your job or don’t make the company enough money to keep you, then you will get fired. I work hard to do as much as possible. I don’t sit in my phone in the corner like I’ve seen in so many others. Companies loose so much money in labor costs due to ignorant employees. That’s why the don’t get paid as much. Everyone has a skill that they can put towards a different job that can lead to a better career. Additionally, before you can raise minimum wage, you have to fix the economy to lower inflation rates. Raising minimum wage can’t be the only answer. It’s the only thing we’ve ever done

    • @tranquility6789
      @tranquility6789 3 роки тому

      LUCKY

    • @SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite
      @SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite 3 роки тому

      @@OneNidim Thank you so much for that.
      I too work at a restaurant and the people in the kitchen get paid close to if not twice minimum wage, because it’s necessary to have and keep good workers.
      Raising the minimum wage that much federally would wipe out so many easily automated jobs because the increase makes it cheaper to automate.
      The rest of the workers getting a raise are picking up the work for people laid off

    • @x47-r1b
      @x47-r1b 3 роки тому +23

      @@OneNidim I see you have been fully and successfully indoctrinated , your corporate overlords must be soo happy to know they have a sheep they ll be able to sheer ad vitam eternam have fun believing in the American nightmare , you might change your opinion when you reach 60 and realize you are still flipping burgers for 7.25$ an hour.

  • @bellers5086
    @bellers5086 3 роки тому +44

    This video's incredible. You came from every angle with nothing but the hard stats and evidence.
    before i kinda thought $15 minimum wage was good, but now I'm 100% advocating for it, if not even a higher wage.
    Subscribed, well done.

    • @jimziemer474
      @jimziemer474 2 роки тому +1

      Minimum wage will always be minimum wage. That’s not how you get ahead. You will change the numbers but the value will remain the same. The market will correct itself.

    • @zigoter2185
      @zigoter2185 2 роки тому

      999999999999$ minimum wage

    • @gowildcats1730
      @gowildcats1730 2 роки тому +1

      I disagree that this video is "incredible" because it's so one-sided. At the beginning it indicates it will explore "both sides" of the issue." It then proceeds with an argument for raising the minumum wage; and never even attempts to take a different viewpoint seriously.

    • @log6070
      @log6070 Рік тому +2

      @@gowildcats1730 wdym it explains the opposing view point and then explains why it’s wrong

  • @nils8394
    @nils8394 3 роки тому +193

    It's almost as if american workers were proud of their exploitation.

    • @JastwatchingYT
      @JastwatchingYT 3 роки тому +19

      @@rothtiberiuscain7589 I visit right winged news every once in a while and the comment section makes me worried.

    • @joey9511
      @joey9511 3 роки тому +4

      Making minimum wage in america today puts you in the top 20% of all wage earner in the world

    • @dediguise0018
      @dediguise0018 3 роки тому +16

      @@joey9511 that kind of comparison is absolutely ridiculous. Compare to other countries with a similar GDP per capita. I'll wait.

    • @dediguise0018
      @dediguise0018 3 роки тому

      They are. Lots of Ayn rand and McCarthyism in the American mentality.

    • @joey9511
      @joey9511 3 роки тому +4

      @@dediguise0018 yes lets compare someone working for min wage in USA to the children working in sweat shops in china.
      Oh or did you want to compare the usa to some small Scandinavian country 1/100 the size of US that has more oil/ natural resources (wealth) per citizen then any other country in the world?

  • @Juuk-D
    @Juuk-D 3 роки тому +546

    Imagine living in the richest first world country and having to work two jobs to come by... Legal slavery..

    • @samlaude2944
      @samlaude2944 3 роки тому +58

      The richest country in the history of the world doesn’t have to be a first world country. 😶 By many metrics we are well behind most first world countries.

    • @anitazoon8368
      @anitazoon8368 3 роки тому +4

      It didn’t used to be this way my mother never worked do you research as to who made it this way

    • @jettonjets1557
      @jettonjets1557 3 роки тому +12

      less than 4% of Americans have two jobs

    • @jettonjets1557
      @jettonjets1557 3 роки тому +2

      @@samlaude2944 The US is still a first world country and is ahead of other first world countries in many metrics

    • @JM-mh1pp
      @JM-mh1pp 3 роки тому +48

      @@jettonjets1557 Oh I agree, child mortality, amount of prisoners, school shooting victims...

  • @honeydewuwu2055
    @honeydewuwu2055 3 роки тому +369

    "Teachers would be paid less than minimum wage workers"
    Than set an automatic standard pay for teachers instead of exploitative contracts or merit pay. Start paying teachers for the what they're truly worth--a lot. It's supposed to be a higher end job

    • @TimeBomb014X
      @TimeBomb014X 3 роки тому +9

      Considering teachers are peddling some far out ideas in their classes, I'd say they ain't worth spit

    • @ELITEHAMSTER123
      @ELITEHAMSTER123 3 роки тому +6

      @@TimeBomb014X agreed. Evident in the fact homeschoolers wildly outperform students taught by public and private school teachers.

    • @honeydewuwu2055
      @honeydewuwu2055 3 роки тому +61

      @@TimeBomb014X you can't dismiss the necessary living qualities of teachers based on your personal experience, nobody's means of living should diminished based on an implicit bias they have of teachers.
      The problem is that there is a massive teacher shortage on credential teachers across the country, due to the high work standards, with unlivaable wages and awful contracts. So chances are, your experience with teachers was probably uncredentionialed ones and was a direct result of the teacher shortage. Pay teachers what they fucking deserve, plain and simple.

    • @honeydewuwu2055
      @honeydewuwu2055 3 роки тому +36

      @@ELITEHAMSTER123 home schooling is inaccessible to the average working class americans and only benefits high income students

    • @TimeBomb014X
      @TimeBomb014X 3 роки тому +4

      @@honeydewuwu2055 except for teachers, if you aren't teaching your students math and instead pushing your personal ideology on them than I don't think they deserve a pay raise

  • @kayleebrown2900
    @kayleebrown2900 3 роки тому +41

    Its so frustrating that your videos never get recommend to me. You’re one of my top channels

    • @Funnyso869
      @Funnyso869 3 роки тому

      We'll think about it most of the time the his videos are demonetized which means UA-cam cannot make any money so why would yotube recommend you a video that they cannot profit from not agreeing with it just telling you the reason

    • @ARandomSpace
      @ARandomSpace 3 роки тому

      Strange. I always get his videos recommended.

    • @Funnyso869
      @Funnyso869 3 роки тому

      @@ARandomSpace I'm of course talking about recommending him to new people and maybe it's because you watch so many of his videos

  • @somecat2993
    @somecat2993 3 роки тому +215

    holy shit...I feel like I was just woken up.

    • @DarkMustard1337
      @DarkMustard1337 3 роки тому +12

      Seriously?...thats good...This has been my hot button issue for a while..working in retail and food service, got sick...still have debt 4 years later and working full time doesnt help fast enough especially when car repairs and other shit pop up..

    • @abbyc7815
      @abbyc7815 3 роки тому +9

      Great!! But also know that one point in this video was incorrect: most minimum wage workers in the USA are NOT students, but adults.
      "Among workers who would benefit from a minimum wage increase to $15 in 2024, the average age is 35 years old. Most low-wage workers are not very young primarily because so few teenagers work at all to begin with.[15] For a minimum wage increase to $15 by 2024, about 91 percent of the workers receiving wage increases would be age 20 or older, and 68 percent would be at least the age of 25. The typical worker in a family who will benefit from this minimum wage increase is actually the family breadwinner, earning on average about 52 percent of their family’s total income."
      www.epi.org/publication/minimum-wage-testimony-feb-2019/

    • @citizenterra3589
      @citizenterra3589 3 роки тому +4

      Welcome to the movement.

    • @thistime757
      @thistime757 3 роки тому +1

      @@DarkMustard1337 I would appreciate your opinion on my playlist, thanks +1

    • @Dani0x1B
      @Dani0x1B 3 роки тому +3

      @@abbyc7815 "student" and "adult" can be true at the same time

  • @SciFactsYT118
    @SciFactsYT118 3 роки тому +499

    Random fact: Cheetahs can't roar, instead, they make a sound very similar to the house cat.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +175

      It is known

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb 3 роки тому +18

      Nya

    • @BrokenAbyss
      @BrokenAbyss 3 роки тому +4

      @@SecondThought my comment keeps getting deleted! Wth, I highly doubt you’d delete my comment, since we agree. This is why the left shouldn’t cheer on censorship. This is out of hand. I also create content and I’ve been experiencing the worst censorship over the last couple weeks, like worse than before.

    • @BrokenAbyss
      @BrokenAbyss 3 роки тому +7

      @@SecondThought I’m so livid, my freaking head is hot. I hate censorship as much as I hate nazis calling anything left of them commies.

    • @recruit8921
      @recruit8921 3 роки тому +24

      @@BrokenAbyss youtube is probably deleting your comments because of "spam" this happened to me because I kept on commenting nice in videos.

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 3 роки тому +322

    And when we say stuff like this politicians funded by corporations will call us crazy radical socialists for asking for livable wages

    • @mm2f419
      @mm2f419 3 роки тому +10

      yes, because you dont get economics and that is why you ask for minimum wage.

    • @SevastianNandez
      @SevastianNandez 3 роки тому +24

      Or trump supporters think America is turning into soviet russia lmfao

    • @mm2f419
      @mm2f419 3 роки тому +9

      @@SevastianNandez well, the left advocates for socialism... it is not even what Trump supporters think, it is what the left itself says.

    • @JS-mc3ik
      @JS-mc3ik 3 роки тому +11

      Sorry buddy but minimum wage doesn’t solve poverty it just increases unemployment and inflation, if it were really that simple then maybe every country in africa implement 15 usd min wage
      This isnt that hard, its called supply and demand, basic economics

    • @nonelast4152
      @nonelast4152 3 роки тому +23

      @@JS-mc3ik difference is, almost every country in africa is a third world country. America has the capability to raise the wages. African countries don't. Simple common sense, basic logic :)

  • @par.boe619
    @par.boe619 3 роки тому +204

    Mad respect to second thought. He could have just cruised along as an educational UA-camr but instead decided to fight for what he believes in, even if it means visits from the DHS. It’s gotta be so much more fulfilling anyways. I cannot wait to see how his politics grow and evolve, and hopefully he will start to collab with some dope left wing podcasters/ youtubers. He should link up with some organizing groups and such. I do wish I could do more to help the cause...but I’m stuck working a 9-5 to keep the bills paid for now. (Not complaining, I was lucky enough to get a decent job out of college, something that’s become a dream to many of my generation).

    • @loualbino5536
      @loualbino5536 3 роки тому +1

      In America we have many options for success. All this minimum wage nonsense is for the low lives who refuse to get their act together.

    • @krabbykrabby8818
      @krabbykrabby8818 3 роки тому +32

      @@loualbino5536 You didn't watch the video huh?

    • @zachanikwano
      @zachanikwano 3 роки тому +15

      @@loualbino5536
      Other countries that are far more successful than us in terms of overall happiness, health, well being, and in job security, stability, + benefits proves you wrong.
      You should always look at where you’re country has been corrupted, fallen short, or fails in order to improve - especially when other countries see success where the “best country ever” sees only suffering and failure.

    • @kingpest13
      @kingpest13 3 роки тому +7

      @@loualbino5536 are you even in America? You should rewatch the video, this channel does not misstate facts. The statistics you hear are true

    • @wanderingpika2099
      @wanderingpika2099 3 роки тому

      @@kingpest13 i see you stand for the argument in the video, but did you know where i can see the argument against it? While i not an American, i would love to see both sides to understand more and compare that to my country here

  • @cephalonbob15
    @cephalonbob15 3 роки тому +79

    When McDonald in Danemark pays 22$/h
    Me: *moving intensifies*

    • @Jonathan-yl8sl
      @Jonathan-yl8sl 3 роки тому +13

      Take a page out of rich people’s book. They move to other countries to pay lower taxes. We move to Denmark for better wages.......wait but isn’t moving internationally expensive?

    • @ScudForEver
      @ScudForEver 3 роки тому +3

      @To The Horror hello non existant public health/university system in the US.

    • @yama123numbercauseytdemand4
      @yama123numbercauseytdemand4 3 роки тому +5

      @To The Horror and? Even after 60% in taxes of a 22$/h job one would effectively make 8,8$/h. To remind thee, the US' minimum wage is 7,25$/h ... without taxes.
      Or in other words: In Denmark even after paying high taxes a Maccas worker earns more then one in the US would, if the US worker had to pay no taxes at all, which he does.
      And that is not even considering all the benefits Danes get from those high taxes. (for example, multiple social security nets, insurrance, proper and fast medical/health care, working public transport, the list goes on).
      If I lived in the US I would work my butt of to reach one singular goal: Leave the country.
      Fortunately I never lived there so I don't have to, instead I can work to better myself and get to visit my great neighbor country of Denmark once or twice a year.
      Edit: orthography. English isn't my mother tongue.

    • @jakobhjrne7243
      @jakobhjrne7243 3 роки тому +1

      @Mirae Soo What are you talking about? Dutch?

    • @jakobhjrne7243
      @jakobhjrne7243 3 роки тому +2

      @@yama123numbercauseytdemand4 A worker at McDonalds doesn't pay 60% in taxes in Denmark. You have to be really wealthy to pay that much xD

  • @aran4241
    @aran4241 3 роки тому +81

    Man I felt that can't even afford a 1 bed apartment bit, I always make a point to mention that there are people out there that work multiple jobs and are still barely able to make it by but I keep getting brushed off as a pessimist by those who are too ignorant to do they're own research... It's also frankly disgusting how much money got poured into the defense budget this year knowing the fact so many people were and still are suffering because our country decided to throw them to the wolves..

    • @cfltheman
      @cfltheman 3 роки тому +8

      Especially when there are homeless veterans.

    • @aran4241
      @aran4241 3 роки тому +8

      Oh yeah, that honestly appalls me the most how little help the people who serve so we don't have to get when they come back home, while I might not agree with the direction of the millitary it just hurts me to see they get thrown to the wayside after all the sacrifices they made

    • @NHope-md8ds
      @NHope-md8ds 3 роки тому +2

      I talk about these types of situations all the time!
      Anytime I hear about things like Musk sending the car into space I can't help but be like, "NOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING HUNGRY TONIGHT, AND HE'S SENDING A F****** CAR INTO SPACE?!"
      or
      "DON'T YOU TELL ME THEY BOUGHT THAT UGLY-ASS RING FOR $12,000,000! DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THERE RENT IN THIS COUNTRY?!?!"
      Pretty sure my husband gets tired of my ranting and raving, but it does not seem justifiable to have so few that have so much, and so many that can't even get by.
      That is not the "American way"; we are supposed to take care of our brothers and sisters and be a beacon of light and triumph over struggles.
      And yet here we are.
      Shame on all of us.

    • @shareefpeoples5317
      @shareefpeoples5317 3 роки тому +1

      @@NHope-md8ds I share many of your complaints. My gf wants to move here from Denmark. I fuss about the fundemental issue of the American thought process around minimum wage and universal healthcare

    • @NHope-md8ds
      @NHope-md8ds 3 роки тому

      @@shareefpeoples5317 Don't get me wrong, I truly do love this country and I am so grateful to be here. I don't think I'd ever leave to go somewhere else.
      However, the love I have for my homeland is not separate from my belief that we can be so, SO much better than we are right now. There are many things we need to fix, many things need to be eliminated, many things need to be implemented. It will happen, but it will take a lot of time and hard work.

  • @Pyrrhic.
    @Pyrrhic. 3 роки тому +63

    Taxes: I don't want to pay, it will destroy jobs
    Minimum wage: Don't make me pay my workers more, it will destroy jobs
    Recession: I need a bailout because I have no money even after tax cuts and paying low wages to my employees.

    • @lencodm2754
      @lencodm2754 3 роки тому

      리주민 bs socialism if for everyone

    • @lencodm2754
      @lencodm2754 3 роки тому +1

      리주민 that’s why all socialism countries do better than the us

    • @lencodm2754
      @lencodm2754 3 роки тому +1

      kettle r uhm do u mix up communism and socialism ? LMAO

    • @lencodm2754
      @lencodm2754 3 роки тому

      kettle r na education be like

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 3 роки тому +2

      @@lencodm2754 It's a joke.

  • @jasonports8517
    @jasonports8517 3 роки тому +78

    More people are waking up to the systems crookedness, especially with WSB right now.

    • @LukeMcGuireoides
      @LukeMcGuireoides 3 роки тому

      WSB?

    • @unlimited8410
      @unlimited8410 3 роки тому

      @@LukeMcGuireoides Wall Street Bets, How Hedge Funds can basically dictate how they want the stock market to be forcefully. So much for 'free' market.

  • @jalene150
    @jalene150 3 роки тому +85

    22/hr and six weeks of vacation sounds so nice right now. I haven’t had a whole week off in a few years now. Ngl I’m burning out

    • @ayuanabradford3206
      @ayuanabradford3206 3 роки тому +4

      You should have went to Denmark then thinking usa was the American dream

    • @jalene150
      @jalene150 3 роки тому +16

      @@ayuanabradford3206 I was born and raised in America. Can’t just leave to a country I have zero ties to

    • @KombatW0mbat
      @KombatW0mbat 3 роки тому +9

      @@ayuanabradford3206 it’s not that simple

    • @Bertuzz84
      @Bertuzz84 3 роки тому +8

      Where i live it's normal for a lot of jobs to have a 2/3 week paid summer vacation. Many businesses actually have the 2 week minimum vacation because they will be shut down during those two weeks. On top of that we have another 3 weeks of paid vacation. It may seem costly for businesses, but having sane not burnt out people actually makes for a more productive society. Simply pushing people to work more hours is not very beneficial for creativity.

    • @seybertooth9282
      @seybertooth9282 3 роки тому +4

      @@jalene150 You're right, it's not as simple as moving abroad. But you can try to change America. I feel for you, by the way. As a European, it's heartbreaking to hear stories like yours. Nobody should go years without a week off.

  • @toontrooper4103
    @toontrooper4103 3 роки тому +144

    I am DEFINITELY using this when my brother complains about the minimum wage raising housing prices. It's been raised. No justifiable reason to treat people as disposable garbage.
    Edit: y'all I'll look more into it later

    • @risingjudah3064
      @risingjudah3064 3 роки тому +9

      It's absolutely crazy! How they expect a human being to make it off of $7.25 an hour in 2021 ! 🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @destroyraiden
      @destroyraiden 3 роки тому +1

      the argument would still apply the land lords knowing the potential of their leasee will just raise the rent even more to consume it.

    • @moosesandmeese969
      @moosesandmeese969 3 роки тому +1

      Housing prices have gone up because demand for it has risen sharply. That's simply it.

    • @moosesandmeese969
      @moosesandmeese969 3 роки тому +1

      @@destroyraiden this same argument can be used against growing the economy in any way

    • @AzetheReal
      @AzetheReal 3 роки тому

      @@risingjudah3064 Unlike me. Most people have at least 2 people at working age. Two jobs at $7.25/hour is $15. Both get a job and a half that’s $22.50/hour for 12 of work each, 5 days a week. Completely doable. Liked? No, but it’s a very livable wage.
      If the wage goes up it quadruples to over $90/hour with the same intensity of work and once people realize and start doing that the business owners and property owners will be increasing the prices to “meet the market”.
      It’s better left at a gradual climb.

  • @loganmyers1489
    @loganmyers1489 3 роки тому +92

    The fact that people go more ballistic over the idea of minimum wage workers earning an extra few dollars an hour than higher-ups getting multimillion dollar bonuses each year for doing little more is pretty sad.

    • @dalton9493
      @dalton9493 3 роки тому

      That extra few dollars makes everything else go up we will still be in the same shitty situation because the dollar is collapsing. Thinks to the “federal” reserve changing our currency backed by gold to a credit system where money is printed out like a monopoly game. The world is much more complicated now and giving people a few extra bucks isn’t going to help anything.

    • @zackbarkley7593
      @zackbarkley7593 3 роки тому +10

      @@dalton9493 I don't think so and its a lie the 1% tell...inflation through currency devaluation occurs more by speculation, monopolization, and pricegouging than in giving a fair share of resources back to the public via higher wages, free higher education, med4all, free public transit, cheap good quality public housing like they do in Switzerland, and a better social safety net. 300 people can be fed by one farmer...property is mostly overspeculated upon dirt. Public transit is a tiny fraction of the cost of personal vehicles, and most medicines cost pennies to make and their discovery is via open source publicly funded research. Youre being had by the 1% austerity nonsense to cruelly keep u so poor and desparate that they can control and exploit u even more. These things pay 4 themselves and do not create inflation because they create more value and meaningful work over time. Taxes are not even needed. We could literally print money for such ( instead of just doing that for wallstreet and war profiteers). The rebuilding of Germany after ww2 and FDR rescuing capitalist elites destruction of our economy...showed that QE for the public good actually creates wealth. Via austerity, the rich only parasitize legacy wealth already there in zero sum game where they steal it and u must lose it...resulting in real inflation for the 99%. Its a conn played by the rich to pretend to be fiscally responsible but really its pennywise poundfoolish..it only benefits them in the short term...we all lose (including the rich) in the long term if they destabilize society and destroy an educated, empowered, and ethical working class which is the only collateral that gives their fiat paper money any meaning in the first place.

    • @jedahn
      @jedahn 3 роки тому +1

      @@dalton9493 so essentially, business is the government, the government is a distraction, and we're in a slow return to 1700s England which is what the founding father strove to escape. Makes sense to me. Corporations are super humans anyways, so they're re basically nobles and share holders bishops or something.

    • @ДаниилРабинович-б9п
      @ДаниилРабинович-б9п 3 роки тому +2

      Raising minimum wage will only kill small businesses. Universal basic income is the only way i see that can work.

    • @zackbarkley7593
      @zackbarkley7593 3 роки тому

      @@ДаниилРабинович-б9п u might be right if the big picture isn't stopping the upward transfer of wealth and just a bandaid which the rich just pour acid on then and use for their political advantage. Minimum wages should be automatically tied to inflation and also to the maximum wage of a companys CEO. Destruction of small biz and monopolization leads to price gouging and could render ineffective a wage increase as well. Effective strategies would be to couple wage inceases with med4all so small biz don't need to buy insurance and reduced taxes on small businesses. Businesses which are monopolies or effectuvely rackets via corrupt regulations should be forcibly be broken up rather than fined for antitrust and other crimes which they invariably commit. Wages can and should be increased. We should be asking for a 400% increase than a 10-20% increase in wages if wages followed the increased productive output since the 1970s. Reparations for that stolen wealth in the last 50 years should also be considered. To prevent the kinds of shenigans of the rich causing inflation, wage increases need also to be coupled with other measures to prevent inflation and the rich using various financial tricks to sabotage. The fact they are whining about a measley few dollars increase with all the wealth they have stolen from workers means they've long ago decided to go for the jugular and show no reason or mercy. The working classes can learn to fight fire with fire. Proclaiming defeat or helplessness is not a way we can win this war which must be won if our country is going to survive as an economic power and leader.

  • @o4_
    @o4_ 3 роки тому +86

    "Teachers would be paid less than minimum wage workers."
    Whoever said that needs to learn what the word 'minimum' means.

    • @BritishRepublicsn
      @BritishRepublicsn 3 роки тому +1

      Lmao

    • @Cant_stop_thinking
      @Cant_stop_thinking Рік тому +7

      Exactly. That should tell you how underpaid teachers are!
      Educators should be better compensated for the difficult and critically important work they do!

  • @Silverheart1956
    @Silverheart1956 3 роки тому +145

    “If you can’t pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business” That is a

    • @_Booker_DeWitt
      @_Booker_DeWitt 3 роки тому +17

      @@seuri678 better to have unemployment payments than be a wage slave

    • @jenisesaus9489
      @jenisesaus9489 3 роки тому +6

      why should they pay inexperienced idiots a liveing wage if they aren't educated and motivated to making more of themselves and don't hend me that shit about most minimum wage workers are single parent(mothers) that's their own fucking fault for not keeping their legs closed until they could handle a family!

    • @usmanyounas5181
      @usmanyounas5181 3 роки тому +25

      @@jenisesaus9489 Stfu. Yeah why should we give people money so they can survive. You prefer for that money to being to your sugar daddy CEO's bank account

    • @Silverheart1956
      @Silverheart1956 3 роки тому

      Wonder why the rest of my post disappeared ?

    • @aimanraza
      @aimanraza 3 роки тому

      @@usmanyounas5181 Couldn't have said it better myself!

  • @sdnoorr
    @sdnoorr 3 роки тому +703

    “If you can’t pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business” HAHAHAH truuu

    • @userunknown1578
      @userunknown1578 3 роки тому +36

      That is a great argument for why only large corporations should exist... It's also how raising the minimum wage to $15 is going to be weaponized to wipe out all the competition to large corporations.

    • @tl6359
      @tl6359 3 роки тому +37

      @@userunknown1578 it isnt going to be weaponized, it has already been weaponized, like the time Amazon lobbied government to raise minimum wages to crush competition and then people complain when they find out that Amazon and Walmart are monopolies. And the funny part is that they get their supplies from China and not their own home country

    • @userunknown1578
      @userunknown1578 3 роки тому +12

      @@tl6359 You are very correct. It already has been weaponized.

    • @Tanspartan1
      @Tanspartan1 3 роки тому +19

      @Han Boetes I can't afford to buy from a local place when I can only afford the cheapest products, they force you to have to buy from the megacorporations.

    • @patrickhenry4874
      @patrickhenry4874 3 роки тому

      Yesss so people just stop working there and the buisness goes bankrupt and government never needed to get involved just as capitalism was intended lol

  • @BolanleJenny
    @BolanleJenny 3 роки тому +29

    This is one reason I am so glad that I left the US before I was working age. I don't want work till I'm just above exhausted to put food on the table. The fact that people don't want this for each other makes me sad.

    • @somebodysbody4361
      @somebodysbody4361 3 роки тому +2

      The people do want this for each other. The federal reserve does not. Inflation is a hidden tax and the money goes to the central banking system. Inflation is fees and interest for borrowing money(I.e. debt) from the federal reserve.

    • @longbeach225
      @longbeach225 3 роки тому +4

      @M Ghibelline Corporations control the Government unfortunately lot of cabinet members are former lobbyists.

    • @NHope-md8ds
      @NHope-md8ds 3 роки тому +1

      @@longbeach225 Or future lobbyists making sure their next job prospects are favorable.

    • @baconknightproductions8297
      @baconknightproductions8297 3 роки тому +1

      It's not minimum wage workers making this argument, it's older people with well paying jobs that just sees these workers as whiners that just don't want to work as hard. That and wealthy people that want to preserve their wealth arbitrarily.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 2 роки тому

      @@baconknightproductions8297 that's disgusting.

  • @matthew4511
    @matthew4511 3 роки тому +17

    "If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage, you should not be in business"
    This. Why should it be on us, the consumers to subsidize living wages in unsustainable industries when the employers are financially and morally responsible for doing so? If a country failed to govern its citizens, it would be their right to leave or rule themselves just as well. Supporting a business or industry that fails to financially support it's employees is socially irresponsible, and employers that fail to do so should not be in business

  • @hithere5553
    @hithere5553 3 роки тому +42

    For my time as an “essential worker” I received a one time $300 check. But hey that’s almost 2 week’s worth of pay...

    • @frankpoposojo
      @frankpoposojo 3 роки тому +13

      its funny you say that as i myself an "essential worker", and all ive gotten from the jobs ive worked so far. Is a foot up my ass. and im being told to work more and get a higher paying job during a fucking pandemic!!!
      edit: i actually did get a higher paying job, which pays slighter than my old ones

    • @JohnFKennedy420
      @JohnFKennedy420 3 роки тому

      @@louvendran7273 yea I agree, That is definitely not a full time wage. I worked 15-20 hrs a week at minimum wage and received $333 for 2 weeks pay after tax. I get tips as a delivery driver though so I couldn’t care less what my wage is 😂

    • @hithere5553
      @hithere5553 3 роки тому

      @@JohnFKennedy420 I did say almost. I typically make ≈$340 over 2 weeks

  • @daniellingenfelter7886
    @daniellingenfelter7886 3 роки тому +98

    This country desperately needs a major political party focused on fighting for worker's rights.

    • @zoewheelwright2325
      @zoewheelwright2325 3 роки тому +14

      A labour movement

    • @Fabric_Hater
      @Fabric_Hater 3 роки тому +1

      No.

    • @thereisnosanctuary6184
      @thereisnosanctuary6184 3 роки тому

      Which country?

    • @Fabric_Hater
      @Fabric_Hater 3 роки тому +2

      @@fuckyourstupidfuckinghandle aoc? Shes the one who lifted her self up from her boot straps. Went from a bartender to a congressperson.

    • @frankwu3466
      @frankwu3466 3 роки тому +2

      So, how about the Communist Party of America?

  • @nolanross6572
    @nolanross6572 3 роки тому +33

    I’m here pretty early, keep up the good work second thought!

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +15

      Thanks, I’ll do my best!

    • @pedroocm
      @pedroocm 3 роки тому +1

      wtf, the original comment was posted 57 min ago, while the reply was posted 58 min ago. Second Thought is faster than time

    • @nolanross6572
      @nolanross6572 3 роки тому +1

      @@pedroocm that’s just how good he is

  • @bradleybruvva3021
    @bradleybruvva3021 3 роки тому +16

    Man, I was so pissed when I was working at Whole Foods for a few years, helped open the 2 stores, and gave all my weekends while I was a student. My boss told me I was “the heart of the team” during my first review which was a couple years late and my first raise was a little more than 80 cents. I knew almost every department in that time but I was making about .80 more than their minimum wage new worker. I helped open multiple stores, I knew almost everything about whole foods but they didn’t want to pay a real living wage. Felt like a punch in the gut, I didn’t work there much longer. The only options where I live are grocery, fast food, and other low-paying corporations. I’ve been trying to focus on college again because I don’t want to work for anybody where I live.

  • @blazingfuryoffire1
    @blazingfuryoffire1 3 роки тому +73

    One big factor not addressed on terms of keeping the minimum wage: outsourcing.

    • @stalemateib3600
      @stalemateib3600 3 роки тому +20

      Automation comes into play here too. Increases in minimum wages will, if placed high enough, incentivize businesses to cut out the humans wherever possible. This is sort of a positive side effect, if those workers can find decent-paying work elsewhere. But still something worth considering.

    • @blazingfuryoffire1
      @blazingfuryoffire1 3 роки тому +7

      @@stalemateib3600 Issue then becomes "what should we do with idiots?"
      As technology continues to advance, those without the ability to handle a computer past the web browser are going have issues finding a job.

    • @112428
      @112428 3 роки тому

      @@TrueMakaveli50 Most of the pain coal miners are feeling its self inflicted, so I have zero sympathy for them. Mining is mostly mechanized now, so most miners could easily get jobs in other industries doing other types of mining or machinery repair like wind turbines with minimal training. But they refuse to move to where the jobs are, and bitch and moan instead when the government already has numerous programs to help them move and retrain them.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 3 роки тому +1

      The thing is, minimum wage hasn't been increased since 2009, but that hasn't stopped jobs from being outsourced. We still lose about 300,000 jobs per year to outsourcing even with poverty wages. AND the jobs that are being outsourced by and large aren't the jobs you'd think of when it comes to this. They can't outsource the job of the night janitor at your local supermarket because they can't relocate your supermarket elsewhere, for example. So there's every reason to make sure those jobs we do keep are valued, and that we don't allow wealthy corporations to pass along the expenses of their employees to us through the food stamp and housing assistance programs.

    • @hemanownsyou
      @hemanownsyou 3 роки тому

      @@stalemateib3600 Except, they are already outsourcing their work and using automation while still paying poverty wages, so that is nothing but a pathetic excuse.

  • @arre314
    @arre314 3 роки тому +240

    Honestly, it seems Reagan shows up in every economic problem today.

    • @edwardroh89
      @edwardroh89 3 роки тому +61

      He definitely was the start of the downfall. and yet we have some older folks in America still holding on to the Reaganism principles when it has so obviously clearly failed America

    • @biouyb5828
      @biouyb5828 3 роки тому +14

      If you are to be happy that one person is dead... it would be him.
      Okay, there are for sure others I would put first but you get the point.

    • @joesmith4965
      @joesmith4965 3 роки тому +1

      Because he was immensely based

    • @zerologic7912
      @zerologic7912 3 роки тому +31

      @@joesmith4965 if by "based" you mean he wanted the poor to die then sure

    • @AcryllixGD
      @AcryllixGD 3 роки тому +3

      @@zerologic7912 he did not want the poor to die. You don’t get his principles, the economy was booming under him and a whole lot more jobs were created.

  • @aussieboy4090
    @aussieboy4090 3 роки тому +135

    America is literally fighting over giving people the minimal wage.

    • @baconknightproductions8297
      @baconknightproductions8297 3 роки тому +6

      America is a perfect country
      The minimum wages in America is 7 and a half dollars
      7 and a half dollars is the perfect minimum wage

    • @GTAVictor9128
      @GTAVictor9128 3 роки тому +28

      @@baconknightproductions8297
      I'm gonna assume that this is a sarcastic joke.

    • @timestamptimmy2046
      @timestamptimmy2046 3 роки тому +2

      We are not fighting over minimal wage we have that.We are fighting for a Living Wage theres a difference aussie boy

    • @coincollectorchase
      @coincollectorchase 3 роки тому +2

      The wage being minimum is the issue being required to work maximum for it.
      Why would I want to work maximum for mnimum while other's work minimum for maximum? Because it's my job?! Not anymore. Almost Every job offers a MINIMUM wage, not a maximum wage, but expects you to work maximum for their minimum wage. The EQUATION to Prosper is fucked up because the Gov, and some people need to have 185,000,000,000 dollars in fheir accounts so they can laugh at people who work hard af for fucking 8 dollars and hour.
      Go sell cars, you will have to work twelve hours per day, six days per week, and the salary you Earn per month for WORKING is paid BACK to your employer when you sell enough cars for the month before you can make any Comission from any cars for the month and if you keep failing to sell enough cars per month, you get fired and If that sounded logically reasonable to you, you're a sheep to an employer who owns you. I stated factual greed that only cares about me so long as I make i rain green for them but not me.
      If I was able to be wealthy, I would share wih peope I don't even know, know why? Becuse I doubt most people wouldn't even share with family and I would want to be better than that and share with anyone I meet.
      I could Never enjoy myself like infront of other's that are just trying to survive, I would feel way too guilty and would Love to share.
      Should of been me who won the 1b powerball, I would travel and give 10k to every person I came across, sometimes more. I would save 50mill to myself and with the rest of the 740million I would hand out 10k-×××k at a time.
      I'd be that runescape player but in real life 'Oh hi there Here have 10 mill and have a wonderful day!'

    • @zackbarkley7593
      @zackbarkley7593 3 роки тому +4

      The overton window has fallen off the cliff and shattered. A heated argument between Louis Quartorze n Marie Antoinette over whether the peasant deserve 7 or 15 crumbs from her cake table. Robespierre with his guillotine lies in the shadows.

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides 3 роки тому +10

    Every worker, everyone, should see this video. Phenomenal content

  • @effaygigioty3164
    @effaygigioty3164 3 роки тому +34

    This man Second Thought is an F-ing SAINT! The video gets a HUGE like from me!

    • @rackets7991
      @rackets7991 3 роки тому

      Because you have little intelligence and no experience.. You should move to Venezuela or Cuba and stay for several months..Or try looking at some youtube videos by Dr. Thomas Sowell. They will blow your mind..You were indoctrinated and not educated.. Feel sorry for you. Your mind has been stolen for political purposes.

    • @kamenemanuilov2108
      @kamenemanuilov2108 3 роки тому +3

      @@rackets7991 'Venezuela' gottem

    • @office-oholics4182
      @office-oholics4182 3 роки тому +4

      @@rackets7991 Or Europe/Iceland/Canada-
      Cuba/Venezuela is under sanctions from the US-the story is complicated and you are being lazy.

  • @lyriclover0
    @lyriclover0 3 роки тому +37

    *Me laughing maniacally when the apartment searching sites inform me rent should only be ~30% of my paycheck*

    • @TypeOneg
      @TypeOneg 3 роки тому +3

      That would be $425/mo.
      A basic studio costs well over 950$ where I live.
      I have to live with my mom.

    • @membear
      @membear 3 роки тому +6

      and the minimum wage at $7.25 is about $1160 a month. Good lucky finding a place for $348 a month. You can't even rent a room in someone's house for that little.

    • @Kaiyats
      @Kaiyats 3 роки тому

      Often it’s down to the landlords have a mortgage on the place they need to pay both the mortgage and make a little on The top

    • @lyriclover0
      @lyriclover0 3 роки тому +1

      @@TypeOneg yea, i split a small house 3 ways and its still $500- utilities Not included.... Get no thanks for teaching the children to read 🙄

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому

      U.S. average for a 1-bedroom: $1000 or so a month.

  • @manius1222
    @manius1222 3 роки тому +69

    Quick everyone, watch it before it is age-restricted again! ;)

    • @santaclaus5165
      @santaclaus5165 3 роки тому +1

      Lmao why will your mommy and daddy not let you watch it then 💀

    • @MrOzzification
      @MrOzzification 3 роки тому +10

      @@santaclaus5165 yes daddy CIA and mommy youtube sometimes feel these videos have too much truth for the masses

    • @manius1222
      @manius1222 3 роки тому +3

      @@santaclaus5165 Yes. Mommy EU said that websites need better age validation and now Daddy UA-cam wants my credit card number or my passport.
      I say no to Mommys and Daddys stupid rules.

    • @tablo1394
      @tablo1394 3 роки тому

      this video stole half of its footage from a Vox video on the min wage. thats why it will be taken down.

    • @santaclaus5165
      @santaclaus5165 3 роки тому

      @@MrOzzification it’s a video on minimum wage chill out

  • @ashchbkv6965
    @ashchbkv6965 3 роки тому +218

    This channel is truly for the working class unlike "America Uncovered"

    • @CarnageExecutioner
      @CarnageExecutioner 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah, don't give your ad money to them or china uncensored. They're both owned by a dangerous cult (falun gong).

    • @ashchbkv6965
      @ashchbkv6965 3 роки тому +16

      @@CarnageExecutioner There's nothing wrong with Falun Gong and the CCP is a dictatorship, China Uncensored only use those things to attack China because like every conservative loser they hate other country being competitive economically. I think the CCP is wrong because what they do is wrong, China Uncensored attack China because China is a competitor economically and it hurts their nationalist feelings.

    • @Trey.444
      @Trey.444 3 роки тому +6

      This is the greatest Real life channel ever honestly. Ive always felt this way but i had no one who would agree with me. I feel normal now.

    • @bighotchip4231
      @bighotchip4231 3 роки тому +2

      This channel is more like a psychedelic drug for the working class: promoting a illusory Utopian world that has no basis in reality.

    • @Trey.444
      @Trey.444 3 роки тому +15

      @@bighotchip4231 its exposing the illusion we live in ..and forces you to question everything you was taught. Working hard with no benefits Doesnt make productive it makes u a idiotic slave wasting ya life

  • @shinbakihanma2749
    @shinbakihanma2749 3 роки тому +83

    This channel should be renamed "Basic Common Sense"

    • @guzel2812
      @guzel2812 3 роки тому +10

      @David Lightman what

    • @ungabunga3183
      @ungabunga3183 3 роки тому +9

      @David Lightman Ah yes, moving with $5 in the bank. The rest of the garbage you said does not apply to reality either. Feed lies your whole miserable life.

    • @AndrewManook
      @AndrewManook 3 роки тому +5

      @David Lightman That must be why southern states are absolute shitholes comparable to the third world, don't see much growth there.

    • @tweakernation
      @tweakernation 3 роки тому

      @David Lightman So how does someone learn a marketable skill if a job doesn't pay enough to cover rent, groceries, transport, and utilities even when working full time which itself would prohibit you too since the employer won't work with your schedule of going to school to get that skill?

    • @ungabunga3183
      @ungabunga3183 3 роки тому

      @David Lightman Your source: Trust me bro my propaganda would not lie to me

  • @anthonytom-duyquang3558
    @anthonytom-duyquang3558 3 роки тому +11

    "The struggle isn't you versus your fellow workers, but all workers versus the obscenely wealthy owner class who refused to allow America to become the country they claimed it is, a country that works for all of Americans, not just those at the very top."
    Beautifully put.

  • @debated8358
    @debated8358 3 роки тому +51

    Put the politicians on minimum wage and we will see just how fast they change their positions.

    • @garret1930
      @garret1930 3 роки тому +9

      Sounds good in theory, but that would likely just serve to further increase the amount of corruption in your government.

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 3 роки тому +2

      @@garret1930 Have a mandatory system where all millionaires, Billionaires and politicians MUST live an entire year off Minimum wage, until it is increased and tied to inflation :)

    • @seanhoare7639
      @seanhoare7639 3 роки тому +6

      Here in the UK we had a number of Conservative MP's who claimed it was not difficult to live on Unemployment Benefit.. So they tried for 1 week all of them failed abysmally (one spent the entire benefit on the first day) but not one changed their opinion..

    • @monchete9934
      @monchete9934 3 роки тому

      This is pretty much Boss Undercover, but for politicians. And that show is horseshit

    • @sirjgn4868
      @sirjgn4868 3 роки тому

      @@seanhoare7639 Well, that's because they always have their own much more cushy lives to go back to so why bother?

  • @ti2218
    @ti2218 3 роки тому +22

    This is definitely one of the most informative, clear, concise, eye-opening and REAL videos I have ever seen. The only competitors to that title are your other videos. For real, I really enjoy your content, I've learned so much.

    • @zigoter2185
      @zigoter2185 2 роки тому

      Funny. He strawmanned a bunch of points, without even mentioning how raise in wage kills employment. Just like every price floor creates surplus every minimum wage creates unemployment

  • @jericosmo7006
    @jericosmo7006 3 роки тому +8

    This is important work, thank you for continuing to provide these videos. America will not get any better unless we have an accurate view of just how bad things are. We need to do better.

  • @MichaelSheaAudio
    @MichaelSheaAudio 3 роки тому +16

    I was told a while ago that when people have more money they spend more money. Businesses that struggle today, may flourish tomorrow because the people who want to support them now have the money to do so. The circulation of money is what keeps the economy going. When all of that money funnels to the top and stops there, the country suffers, and we're seeing that right now.

    • @cdub1059
      @cdub1059 3 роки тому

      What about the debate that minimum wage shouldn't exist at all? countries like China have been able to attract essential manufacturing due to low labor costs and benefited as a country over all. Their low level workers certainly don't earn a "living wage", but low wage is better than no wage and therefore less social instability (riots... etc.); basically, the lost job opportunities go to other Nations.
      Perhaps reality is just more cruel than we all would like to think? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I just genuinely want to know.

    • @MichaelSheaAudio
      @MichaelSheaAudio 3 роки тому

      @@cdub1059 Luckily I knew someone first hand who lived that. My dad did business in China for a number of years. While he was there, he met a Chinese woman who slept on the floor of a one bedroom apartment with 8 or so other women. No minimum wage was addressed in the video, you either sucked it up and did the job or you quit and you die of starvation. It comes down to humanity. It's inhumane to make people work for slave wages. Some countries like China really don't give a fuck about that kind of stuff. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @zenspeed404
      @zenspeed404 3 роки тому +2

      ​@@cdub1059 Because it is practiced does not mean that it is morally just. That's like saying I won't kill my parents for money, so a person who wants them dead will just go to someone else willing to do so. Does that mean I should cave in and kill my parents because I really need the money?
      People can make money, but it should be done in an ethical manner. When a person cannot even be paid a living wage, then they literally exist to do nothing but work - that makes them little better than a slave or draft animal. In a democratic system, all humans in all classes should rise and aspire to better things, not just the rich.

  • @OrashiTV
    @OrashiTV 3 роки тому +45

    People being more upset with “burger flippers” wanting to be paid livable wages than the billionaires who exploit the working class is very telling. . .

    • @misterbanshee7992
      @misterbanshee7992 3 роки тому +3

      Your not supposed to make a life long career of minimum wage 😂

    • @tyler2401
      @tyler2401 3 роки тому +10

      @@misterbanshee7992 if you lived in the real world you would realize some people have no choice. No matter the job people should be paid a livable wage.

    • @inwalters
      @inwalters 3 роки тому +2

      @@misterbanshee7992 Well then vote to double taxes being paid to schools, so education can be improved.

    • @KieraHennessey
      @KieraHennessey 3 роки тому +5

      @@misterbanshee7992 I paid thousands of dollars to go to cosmetology school, and I am now I’m a hairstylist getting paid minimum wage, which is $7.25 where I live. Now I do get some commission, but even when I’m busy my entire shift with no breaks, and I include my commission and tips, I still only make about $12 an hour. The issue of minimum wage affects more people than you realize.

    • @misterbanshee7992
      @misterbanshee7992 3 роки тому

      @@inwalters I did not learn anything important in grade school 😂

  • @agizowat2545
    @agizowat2545 Рік тому +2

    I've just been deprograming and watching these videos all day. Thanks for the knowledge and information!

  • @shuvari7707
    @shuvari7707 3 роки тому +10

    Congrats on one million subs Second Thought! I hope your content continues to flourish and influence American politics especially during the new Biden administration.

  • @annguy5563
    @annguy5563 3 роки тому +15

    I never seen a controversial channel growth this quick, keep up your great works👍🏼

  • @CreepyOrangeGuy
    @CreepyOrangeGuy 3 роки тому +5

    Denmark doesn't even have a mandated minimum wage per se.
    We just have ridiculously strong unions. Minimum wages (because there are different floors depending on industry; the lowest of the low being 124-ish dkk ~$20) are decided by a three way meeting between the employers' union, the government, and the employee unions.

    • @sch4891
      @sch4891 3 роки тому

      that's really cool. I like watching anthropology docs and I learned very quickly that there are an infinite amount of ways of organizing the world. More than one way of solving a problem. the system just needs to be organized by the people for the people. as long as no one is being exploited and democracy is strong then i'm all for it

  • @Linkous12
    @Linkous12 3 роки тому +11

    I had an argument with my dad (he's in his late 60s) a couple of days ago about this topic. Being a pretty hardcore conservative he argued against a $15 minimum wage. He said, "A minimum wage worker shouldn't be able to afford a $400K house". Shows you just how disconnected with reality some people are.

    • @FlansyLinny
      @FlansyLinny 3 роки тому +5

      A minimum wage worker can’t even afford a room in someone’s house lmao

    • @Alex1891
      @Alex1891 Рік тому

      Has he died yet?

    • @Linkous12
      @Linkous12 Рік тому +1

      @@Alex1891 No, but he's trying his darnest.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 5 місяців тому

      His real opposition to a living wage is moral: he thinks poor people don't deserve to make that much money

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 5 місяців тому

      My replies keep getting deleted​@@Linkous12

  • @yustinauong4426
    @yustinauong4426 3 роки тому +26

    this man is pumping out videos and i'm totally here for it

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +12

      Hope you enjoy them all!

    • @yustinauong4426
      @yustinauong4426 3 роки тому +8

      @@SecondThought dude you're amazing lmao can't believe you responded, i've learned so much about politics and myself from your channel. keep being great bro!

  • @radha94
    @radha94 3 роки тому +27

    Why colleges is so expensive?? Could you please make a video about it

    • @mattstewart2750
      @mattstewart2750 3 роки тому +17

      To keep you in debt and enslaved at work to pay for it. Next question.....

    • @cdub1059
      @cdub1059 3 роки тому +1

      There are actually a lot of cheap colleges... more like why would you go to an expensive college to get a non-STEM related degree?

    • @christiana5453
      @christiana5453 3 роки тому +1

      @@cdub1059 Education shouldn't be a privelige but a right, the only thing that should disqualify any other student from going to a school is their grades and merit, not their monetary value.

    • @stevenvinyl549
      @stevenvinyl549 3 роки тому

      @@cdub1059 Please state what cheap means.

    • @baconsir1159
      @baconsir1159 3 роки тому

      Ah, that’s actually because the government guaranteed loans for banks when they were loaning to children going to college. Because the students could afford it regardless, there was no reason universities wouldn’t just increase the price to be paid more. They then kept these students interested in attending by pitching a sort if luxury experience. Huge stadiums, pools and luxury food, huge events, etc. Things to sucker in kids who think that’s important. Then they used these ‘upgrades’ to justify even HIGHER costs, which drove up student expectations etc. Pretty fucked

  • @pakxenon
    @pakxenon 3 роки тому +4

    My friend who "studied economics (under Thomas Sowell)" puts forth some arguments that I need help addressing.
    1. Any kind of minimum wage pushes out low skilled workers from getting hired due to their market value being below the minimum. He claims that this disproportionately affects people of colour and poor immigrants. Thus effectively their "minimum wage is zero".
    2. Any sort of stimulus ("printing money") to the economy will increase long-term inflation thus devaluing disproportionally poor/middle-class/working people's assets and investments like their savings and real estate. "Future generations will pay for it" sort of deal. His only solution is to artificially set federal interest rates to near or at zero to stimulate borrowing and lending so the economy can grow without increasing monetary supply.
    3. Raising taxes on corporations, they will "pass the cost to the consumer". Which I know is bullshit but I don't know enough to counter this argument.
    I love your video series, but if I attempt to share it with my "conservative" friend he'll just ignore all the ideology parts (the left just wants free stuff from the government, playing the victim in a dog eat dog world) and claim that you don't know how the economy works.

    • @MrSamulai
      @MrSamulai 3 роки тому +2

      1. That's not a problem with the minimum wage, that's a problem with shitty economy that doesn't provide enough jobs. You know what might fix that? Average Joe spending more money thanks to his improved salary.
      2. Actually true. Trouble is, they still do it, so what do you have to lose?
      3. This would only work if the competing corporations secretly agreed on their prices, eliminating the competition and forcing the customers to cough up. There's a word for that. Here in the civilized world, it's usually accompanied by words "government crackdown on ___".

  • @joshlithuania508
    @joshlithuania508 3 роки тому +5

    Added my like + comment to contribute to the algorithm for you. Great work.

  • @weopdurdegenes6598
    @weopdurdegenes6598 3 роки тому +25

    You have failed to mention that the Scandinavian countries have no legal minimum wage and instead rely on unions to negotiate their wages. Other than that, good video.

    • @ronsmith7739
      @ronsmith7739 3 роки тому

      They have little or zero immigration either!!!!!! And Sweden does have a minimum wage .

    • @weopdurdegenes6598
      @weopdurdegenes6598 3 роки тому

      @@ronsmith7739 source on minimum wage?

    • @issacmaw3344
      @issacmaw3344 3 роки тому

      @@weopdurdegenes6598 Technically it doesn't have a minimum wage but they use collective bargaining agreements between different sectors of business and the Union that sector of workers represents. It's not an individual Supermarket company that negotiates but all the supermarkets sit down with the Union at the same time to work out what the minimum wage will be. It also is written into law that all workers have 25 paid vacation days.

    • @arturopriora7224
      @arturopriora7224 3 роки тому +2

      This video has some dumb points, like the one on housing. The fact that in the last years housing prices have risen without a rising minimum wage does not mean that there is no correlation, it could easily mean that other factors impact housing prices

    • @usmanyounas5181
      @usmanyounas5181 3 роки тому

      @@arturopriora7224 I think hes saying that its know even harder to afford housing now on minimum wage

  • @TheGroovyJones
    @TheGroovyJones 3 роки тому +36

    Business needs customers with money to spend. If food and shelter takes away all their dollars, they can't be your customer.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 3 роки тому +7

      Yup. But the problem is landlords and other similar capitalists have learned something that the medical industry has known for years. People will pay just about any amount for the things they require most desperately. So they're trying to take the biggest piece of that pie they can get away with, and screw anyone else.

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb 3 роки тому +2

      @@anthonydelfino6171 That will not benefit capitalists in the longer term. Having fun screwing over anyone else will eventually be less profitable for them when less people can pay them what they want. Capitalism should no longer go _unchecked._ Joker taught me how society can collapse from class struggle when the poor and the rich have no empathy for each other.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 3 роки тому +2

      @@adampkalb spoiler alert, the rich have never had empathy for the poor. You can see that as a trend going all the way back to the ancient world. And your view of the capitalist class is flawed as shareholders of any industry demand the maximum return for the minimum investment. They will charge whatever they can get away with, even if that amount is hurting the consumer in the long run. The landlord, in this case, doesn't have to care that you're struggling to buy groceries, because you still have to have a place to live. The medical industry doesn't care if the bills you're stuck with bankrupt you if you had to pay it in order to not die. They don't have to care about a consumer not being able to afford products from another industry if they can squeeze the maximum out of you for what they are selling.

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb 3 роки тому +2

      @@anthonydelfino6171 I knew the rich never had empathy for the poor since the industrial revolution. I was just establishing a way for us together to make them suffer consequences for having no empathy. My point is that some consumers are smart enough to not pay the maximum price that those industries want, and could rebel together against them when the poor buyers outnumber the rich sellers.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 3 роки тому +3

      @@adampkalb the poor don't have that power when it comes to the industries we're talking about here. Are you going to boycott your insulin? Maybe shop around for the best ER price when you fall and break a limb? And similarly, when you have rents tied to what others are charging are you going to convince tens of thousands of households to all move out of their apartments in protest until rents drop? The free market doesn't work when it comes to setting prices for goods and services people need to fill basic human survival needs.

  • @iseewhatyoudonethere
    @iseewhatyoudonethere 3 роки тому +72

    Welcome to Second Thought, the channel where everyone slowly realises they should live in Denmark

    • @NHope-md8ds
      @NHope-md8ds 3 роки тому +18

      Or Norway, or Sweden, or Finland.
      All have significantly higher wages, better (and free!) education, very strong social safety net programs, longer life expectancy, and they rank higher on the global "happiness" index.
      Only issue is all that cold weather...

    • @jamesblames
      @jamesblames 3 роки тому +7

      *Realize we should establish socialism

    • @jamesblames
      @jamesblames 3 роки тому +4

      @@ANDROLOMA Market Socialism? Maybe, but I'm more into Communism. Market Socialists are still comrades in arms, though.

    • @MannIchFindKeinName
      @MannIchFindKeinName 3 роки тому +3

      ​@@ANDROLOMA One way, atleast its proposed right now, to hinder tyranny to grow from socialist/communist movements, is to actually empower the working class right away, instead of doing it over a strong state.
      Basically its about bringing democracy to places where there is none. If a "boss" has to ask his workers about wage changes, paying off investors or acquiring those new contracts, there will be significantly less chances for him to straight out oppress workers. Mondragon is an example of a worker co-op, still comes from times where people tried exactly that way of reaching communism.
      In other countrys they did it by enforcing communism with a strong state, which inevitably led to dictatorships.
      There were other countries trying things, but the US "democracized" them, before we got any usefull data but "people really like living wages and public social security"

    • @zjolasi2219
      @zjolasi2219 3 роки тому

      Hi I am European, I earned 21 000€ last year (2020), 17 000€ after taxes. That is shit of a wage right? I drive 8 years old BMW, I own a house, I own a flat that I am renting out.

  • @rain2gaming384
    @rain2gaming384 3 роки тому +3

    Subscribed. Very informative and challenges the ideals that have been ingrained in the US for years

  • @hopelltt
    @hopelltt 3 роки тому +65

    We “spend all this money on the military” because all that money isn’t going to the military. It’s going into various people’s oversea accounts. Think about it- who audits military spending? The government. Exactly.

    • @28ebdh3udnav
      @28ebdh3udnav 3 роки тому +3

      Every year, the federap budget is about 1.3 Trillion. 600 billion is for the military. Where is most of it going to?

    • @JohnFKennedy420
      @JohnFKennedy420 3 роки тому +1

      What is your point? Whether all of the 600 billion budgeted for the military goes to the military, or whether it goes to “oversea accounts”, what difference does it make? And I believe the word you were looking for is OFFSHORE accounts. “Oversea accounts” isn’t a thing, never has been.

    • @murrayshevlin2405
      @murrayshevlin2405 3 роки тому

      @@28ebdh3udnav You know were going to have to cut social security to quit funding the military and put it to education. America is a bigger country so worse education and Finland is small so they have better education and incarceration.

    • @JS-mc3ik
      @JS-mc3ik 3 роки тому

      Facts, cut military and dumb communist spending

    • @God-hr9tm
      @God-hr9tm 3 роки тому

      @@28ebdh3udnav *Isreal Gender studies lol.*

  • @HowdyItLovll
    @HowdyItLovll 3 роки тому +15

    The argument I always hear is " You're paid what you're worth/ what value you bring"

    • @FlansyLinny
      @FlansyLinny 3 роки тому +12

      Worst argument. CNAs and EMTs bring a lot of value but get paid very low. Both require training/schooling too.

    • @veryangryduckpl2122
      @veryangryduckpl2122 3 роки тому +4

      Anwser: So you get negative dollars?

    • @d00der41
      @d00der41 2 роки тому

      They gotta suck off those hedge fund cronyists. Man, they bring us SOOO much value🙄

  • @ShionWinkler
    @ShionWinkler 3 роки тому +6

    "We work
    To earn the right to work
    To earn the right to work
    To earn the right to work
    To earn the right to work
    To earn the right to give
    Ourselves the right to buy
    Ourselves the right to live
    To earn the right to die" ~The Stupendium.
    One of the best description of the American worker condition.

  • @cornslav6255
    @cornslav6255 3 роки тому +20

    I'm a cashier, I make minimum wage (8.80) plus a dollar, while other stores in the area are paying $11 and are raising it to $14, I dont even know what bonus they get

    • @cornslav6255
      @cornslav6255 3 роки тому +1

      @BorisH i am still making the same amount although I'm going to ask for a promotion to make 9:50

    • @cornslav6255
      @cornslav6255 3 роки тому +1

      @BorisH im doing alright I manage i don't live alone so it helps