FlowBee: An Interview with a SPEEDRUN CHEATER

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • This clip was pulled directly from my Twitch channel - so I can only apologise for the poor quality at the start. I also stream speedruns, except I don't cheat in mine. Watch me live: / fulham
    FlowBee is a known Minecraft Speedrun Cheater, and today I had the chance to interview Flowbee about his cheated Minecraft speedruns, asking why he cheated, how he cheated, and what he is going to do next, if he is going to carry on speedrunning Minecraft.
    I encourage you NOT to interact with him, even disliking his content still helps him out.
    TRANSCRIPT: docs.google.co... (THANK YOU TO PRISKILLET AND NEAL FOR THIS!)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 179

  • @LewisFulham
    @LewisFulham  3 роки тому +48

    The start of the video is scuffed, was pulled directly from my Twitch livestream. Sorry for that! Interview starts at 1:50
    Disclaimers were required, and I have permission to upload this.
    TRANSCRIPT IN THE DESCRIPTION!!!

  • @TH-cx2yx
    @TH-cx2yx 2 роки тому +44

    at first he claimed to only cheat one run. and said it was to impress a girl he had been talking to. (who was lesbian and in a relationship btw). he came up with a whole ass story of why he did it, which included that he was to embarrassed to admit he missed the food chest, and lied to her that it was because he didn't have enough eyes. he said that was the only cheated run but then got exposed for cheating all the others, so he then claims to have cheated all except 1, and then he got exposed for cheating that one too. and now he is coming up with a new story of "financial reasons". Why are you guys letting him play a victim here. He has lied numerous times, and came up with new stories every time he got caught out. He's a chronic cheater. he cheats because he wants to, and that's the end of it

    • @_wayward_494
      @_wayward_494 2 роки тому +14

      FINALLY. Someone says it for what it is. One sob story and suddenly everyone thinks it's alright. Forgive and forget but never let that bozo do any kind of speed running ever again

    • @lemonysucksatlife
      @lemonysucksatlife Рік тому +1

      TheWeeklyThing was full of shit and lied bro...
      You didn't watch this interview either did you?
      Why are drama frogs so confidently incorrect all of the time

    • @TH-cx2yx
      @TH-cx2yx Рік тому

      @@lemonysucksatlife i am confidently incorrect? The idiot has come back and claims to have a sub10 out of nowhere XD. he deadass came back and cheated instantly

    • @aleks_moldi
      @aleks_moldi Рік тому +2

      Yes he tried (at start) to get away with as much as possible? ofc he is gonna make a fake story as most cheaters do at start? that doesn't make him a chronic cheater lmao.
      Its like asking a criminal to confess for all the crimes they did? do you except them to answer you honestly?

  • @mrakz03
    @mrakz03 3 роки тому +193

    "speedrunners don't cheat to get good times. they cheat to get good times faster" -karl jobst

    • @squareheadhuman9684
      @squareheadhuman9684 2 роки тому

      OH MA GAEWWWWD SO INSPIRATIONAL OMGGGGGG

    • @ranjangaur29
      @ranjangaur29 2 роки тому

      I don’t understand. They don’t cheat to get a good amount of time, but they cheat to get it faster. Doesn’t that count as speed runners cheat to get good time? Also yes, I do know you didn’t make the quote.

    • @Abrody1477
      @Abrody1477 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@ranjangaur29 It comes down to the if your a good speedrunner they "could" get a certain time if you try it enough times so in their mind it's not cheating because they could do it but they just don't have the time to put into it so they cheat it because they desire it. They might have done it while not on camera but can't do it again while recording/streaming.

    • @ranjangaur29
      @ranjangaur29 2 роки тому

      @@Abrody1477 I know they want it but it still counts as speed runners cheat to get good time. I never wanted the point of the quote. It was just the feeling of how both of those sentences sounded the same.

    • @Abrody1477
      @Abrody1477 2 роки тому

      @@ranjangaur29 It comes from the defense people say of "They are a very good Speed runner why would they cheat?"

  • @karjalatakaisin
    @karjalatakaisin 3 роки тому +228

    People want him to commit suicide because he cheated in a speedrun, what a wonderful community we have

    • @DistrosProjects
      @DistrosProjects 3 роки тому +72

      Wtf. Cheating is bad but death threats are 1000000000% worse.

    • @Checco105
      @Checco105 3 роки тому +10

      @@DistrosProjects True

    • @kirumitojo6611
      @kirumitojo6611 3 роки тому +6

      This is very similar to the drem senario

    • @skflmgjok462
      @skflmgjok462 3 роки тому +25

      @@kirumitojo6611 its not, dream was dragging this for 6 months and even when he admitted he said its not mr its accident me do nothing wrong

    • @kirumitojo6611
      @kirumitojo6611 3 роки тому +9

      @@skflmgjok462 i wasn't talking about dream i was talking about drem/merd here's the details ua-cam.com/video/UU90gRSnM-oa/v-deo.html

  • @jqsm1neS
    @jqsm1neS 3 роки тому +133

    This just shows what a shitty circumstance does to a desperate person. It sucks that he cheated repeatedly in MCSR, but it sucks even more that he felt like it was his last resort. Good on you for giving him the means to speak, Lewis.

  • @codm_python767
    @codm_python767 2 роки тому +9

    Even if he cheated sending death threats is fucked up

  • @mythalieon7829
    @mythalieon7829 3 роки тому +26

    Damn it’s so good to see the other side of the story

  • @gianni135mc
    @gianni135mc 3 роки тому +37

    Great Interview

    • @LewisFulham
      @LewisFulham  3 роки тому +12

      Thanks Gianni ❤️

    • @ER-cd5qq
      @ER-cd5qq 2 роки тому +4

      @@LewisFulham Gianni these nuts??

  • @PineappleWappleMinecraftVids
    @PineappleWappleMinecraftVids 2 роки тому +5

    FlowBeee is actually a pretty smart cheater, considering how he livestreamed some of his runs to make it seem less suspicious and tried to do as much as he could to make his runs look like they were random seed. But in the end of the day, cheating isn't worth it, no matter how close you get to making it look legit, considering that people all the time don't get away with it.

  • @paradox1315
    @paradox1315 2 роки тому +8

    Note to everyone: don’t make up things for a girl/guy you like, you will get death threats, a lot of hate, and rejected is what I’ve learnt about our community today

  • @huzheng2009
    @huzheng2009 3 роки тому +115

    I don't agree with FlowBee's actions, but I think this shows why perspective and the whole story matters a lot.

  • @user-yw3ic8qc1h
    @user-yw3ic8qc1h 3 роки тому +42

    good toast
    on a serious note I feel kinda bad for the guy

  • @squareheadhuman9684
    @squareheadhuman9684 2 роки тому +2

    Bruh people rlly be sending death threats over a game holyyyyyyy

  • @TS-rb4vo
    @TS-rb4vo 3 роки тому +31

    I feel kinda bad for flowbee. He doesn't seem like a bad person

    • @liveinalift
      @liveinalift 3 роки тому +20

      @@jermi1181 cheating doesnt make a person bad

    • @kirumitojo6611
      @kirumitojo6611 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @TS-rb4vo
      @TS-rb4vo 2 роки тому +1

      @lolseagull what's wrong with that?

    • @SimF1e
      @SimF1e Рік тому

      @@lolseagullAnd?

  • @Ackira
    @Ackira 2 роки тому +1

    Idk why people are sending him death threats n shit like that , like bruh he tried to impress a girl by cheating in a block game… a lot of people here need a reality check

    • @N3wW0rld
      @N3wW0rld Рік тому +5

      > he tried to impress a girl by cheating in a block game
      lmfao sounds like he's the one that needs a reality check (and you as well lol since if you watched the video--which you obviously didn't--he says that his motivation for cheating was financial)

    • @decayedphoenix8865
      @decayedphoenix8865 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@N3wW0rldThat doesnt mean death threats

  • @rio_4500
    @rio_4500 2 роки тому +1

    bro should been like you were so down bad to try to get cheeks which were already taken

  • @JUMBO2
    @JUMBO2 3 роки тому +20

    I don't even follow Minecraft speed running, why is this still so interesting?

    • @aymaan9108
      @aymaan9108 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @chelz25
      @chelz25 3 роки тому +3

      I guess because of the times he managed to achieve before being caught

  • @Grimeaper
    @Grimeaper 3 роки тому +8

    Death threats is kinda the welcome to the internet thing now. Everyone gets them now I think. I a not even speaking for a famous person. I got them because I found a joke to be funny and others didn't it is quite adorable honestly.

    • @Grimeaper
      @Grimeaper 3 роки тому +1

      @Anon It is pretty serious honestly. One death is a lot of paper work we Grim reapers, Reapers, etc are not of the mortal realm of course but still imagining the paper work on my death, or if somehow anyone here (who are techincally immortal, really timeless) managed to die sends shivers down my spine. I still have paper work from one of the Juniors dropping a jar of Covid. I know my fault for being lazy and not doing it myself but I mean who wants to go half way across the realm to grab a jar of Covid on a day off. I didn't learn my lesson from the plague and will not learn my lesson from Covid. If anything those who make these dainty glass jars should learn their lesson.

    • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
      @some_shitposting_idiot3023 3 роки тому +2

      people threw a temper tantrum at me for making a cats are evil joke, after someone had a mental breakdown because they were super offended cause their cat recently died (something i would have literally no way whatsoever of knowing)

    • @lemonysucksatlife
      @lemonysucksatlife Рік тому

      Bro you have 45 subs meanwhile vids on flowbee got thousands of views
      Maybe...just maybe... YOUR SITUATION IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT??
      Like why does it matter how you dealt with death threats? This isn't about you and never will be

    • @Grimeaper
      @Grimeaper Рік тому

      @@lemonysucksatlife Do you think I have a channel for subs or some shit? I have 45 subs despite my channel is more like it and I dunno why. I get death threats all over the place. Death threats are not special they are a welcome to the internet these days.

  • @ashenwolf3846
    @ashenwolf3846 Рік тому +1

    What I want to know is where can I get that chibi anime girl animation. It's so adorable.

  • @kirumitojo6611
    @kirumitojo6611 3 роки тому +3

    People should watch this

  • @shadxw6281
    @shadxw6281 3 роки тому +27

    Really interesting to see his perspective. Compared to other cheater's responses such as dream, he seemed very mature about his response. I hope one day he clears his name

    • @TypeiZ
      @TypeiZ 3 роки тому +10

      except he lied multiple times until there was no way out. and all the stuff he doesnt want to comment on which is even worse than the cheating stuff.

    • @dotRianne
      @dotRianne 3 роки тому +15

      @@TypeiZ I'm not commenting in lies and misinformation because it doesn't matter what I say. Anything will just be painted as lies or people will just misrepresent my words again.
      It happened before, I won't let it happen again.

    • @TypeiZ
      @TypeiZ 3 роки тому +5

      @@dotRianne nice try to paint yourself as a victim :D do you really believe anybody will feel compassion? u are only a victim of yourself. as i said in a comment u deleted on your chanel: u are not a youtube-person. u cant deal with the internet. u deal even worse with women (toast). u cheat for money. fix your life and do something else. i wish the best for the real life person FlowBee, but the internet persona is dead for good reason.

    • @kirumitojo6611
      @kirumitojo6611 2 роки тому +2

      @@TypeiZ you don't really need to be that rude

    • @Angusburgerr
      @Angusburgerr 2 роки тому +3

      @@TypeiZ geez bro

  • @Star-6732
    @Star-6732 Рік тому

    Thank you, it was a good video because the fact that you where impartial even in front of someone you don't really like the actions.

  • @randombanana640
    @randombanana640 2 роки тому +1

    now his channel is gone...

  • @melizsaaa
    @melizsaaa 3 роки тому +21

    unfortunately I don't believe Flow's excuse to cheat. He lies all the time and is known for just wanting attention.

    • @purplejay8030
      @purplejay8030 3 роки тому +7

      I mean, yeah. He literally said that he cheated to grow his channel, aka for attention.

    • @aconnox
      @aconnox 3 роки тому +4

      ??? Not really, he could've never got exposed if he didn't send the mods the log files, and there was no reason to

    • @melizsaaa
      @melizsaaa 3 роки тому +1

      @@aconnox he sent the log files of a faked run. I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

    • @worstplayerxd5012
      @worstplayerxd5012 3 роки тому +2

      bruh are you stupid look at his channel he still has legit runs Lmaooo

    • @aconnox
      @aconnox 3 роки тому

      @@melizsaaa a mod asked for the log files on a run flowbee didn't submit, he could've said no but sent them

  • @chrisbreen1780
    @chrisbreen1780 Рік тому

    Hope he’s doing ok

  • @apolloisnotashirt
    @apolloisnotashirt 3 роки тому +26

    Just dont cheat lol

  • @jakejake5884
    @jakejake5884 2 роки тому +1

    So now he's lying about how he wanted to get his name out? Not what crystal would agree on, he did all of it because he was a lil simp

    • @lemonysucksatlife
      @lemonysucksatlife Рік тому +1

      Bro watched one TheWeeklyThing video skimmed through the comments and think he knows all the situation
      Go do literally anything with ur life and not spread missinformation and be toxic

    • @jakejake5884
      @jakejake5884 Рік тому

      @@lemonysucksatlife People are telling this guy to kill himself and your after me? And clearly if you can tell I'm doing everything in life that i want to do, You assumed i watched one vid of "Weekly" that's spreading misinformation bc i watched 2 lmao, you're not so different from me man, Oh and i don't know anything about what's going on with this situation, i just love jumping into things like this and firing it more up.... Again, you spreading misinformation' How abt you go do something better with your life kid and go cry to someone else' do something fun or exciting

    • @jakejake5884
      @jakejake5884 Рік тому

      @@lemonysucksatlife Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
      How I wonder what you are!
      Up above the world so high,
      Like a diamond in the sky.
      Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
      How I wonder what you are!
      ****
      When the blazing sun is gone,
      When he nothing shines upon,
      Then you show your little light,
      Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.
      Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
      How I wonder what you are!
      ****
      Then the traveller in the dark,
      Thanks you for your tiny spark,
      He could not see which way to go,
      If you did not twinkle so.
      Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
      How I wonder what you are!
      ****
      In the dark blue sky you keep,
      And often through my curtains peep,
      For you never shut your eye,
      Till the sun is in the sky.
      Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
      How I wonder what you are!
      ****
      As your bright and tiny spark,
      Lights the traveller in the dark,-
      Though I know not what you are,
      Twinkle, twinkle, little star.
      Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
      How I wonder what you are!
      Maybe that put the boring baby asleep :)

  • @actualdog2265
    @actualdog2265 3 роки тому +8

    Can someone recap this please? It’s 50 minutes and I have no time SadPag

    • @jailsongmc_01_68
      @jailsongmc_01_68 3 роки тому +1

      Watch it later

    • @jaellycookie
      @jaellycookie 3 роки тому +2

      Watch it in 2x speed! I did 😀

    • @cptswaggermuffins2887
      @cptswaggermuffins2887 3 роки тому

      Just put the video in a faster speed or save it to watch another time

    • @user-qg7el6kh8h
      @user-qg7el6kh8h 3 роки тому +1

      basically, he cheats since his life is shit and that’s basically everything

    • @lemonysucksatlife
      @lemonysucksatlife Рік тому +1

      @@user-qg7el6kh8h
      That's not what the person was asking about or what the interview was about
      Why is it so hard for people not be spead missinformation for no reason i genuinely don't get it...

  • @feelitwithnaman
    @feelitwithnaman 3 роки тому +4

    Who are here from the weekly thing?

  • @wicowan
    @wicowan 3 роки тому +8

    would love to see that guy get wr

    • @pipebombmailer
      @pipebombmailer 3 роки тому +1

      why

    • @wicowan
      @wicowan 3 роки тому +5

      @@pipebombmailer he actually has the skills I think and it would make the world just a little bit more fun

    • @worstplayerxd5012
      @worstplayerxd5012 3 роки тому

      @@wicowan yea

    • @TypeiZ
      @TypeiZ 3 роки тому +4

      he cant get WR anymore. he is banned for life from all leaderboards.

    • @jerrymiao5610
      @jerrymiao5610 3 роки тому

      @@wicowan debatable, but he can’t anymore

  • @mikekelly1771
    @mikekelly1771 3 роки тому +14

    The frustrating thing is flowbee is an amazing speedrunner. Flowbee is WR quality and I hope flowbee keeps speedrunning and sticks with it. You've owned your mistakes, push on through, and all the best for the future.

    • @LewisFulham
      @LewisFulham  3 роки тому +33

      Wholeheartedly disagree on him being WR quality. He is a good speedrunner, but nowhere near the levels of top runners like Feinberg, Reignex, ninjabrain, crookst or x7rowl

    • @dotRianne
      @dotRianne 3 роки тому +16

      imma have to agree with fulham here. Although I *could* somehow see it happening on an absolute fluke seed, I doubt it will ever happen.
      Especially runners like Crookst are 100x better than me, and will be able to turn 100x as many seeds in to WR-potential seeds.

    • @chelz25
      @chelz25 3 роки тому +6

      I mean there are over hundreds of runners that can wr with a god seed. I wouldn’t say he’s a consistent wr contender but I do agree that he’s much better than the average runner

  • @jackstoogood6559
    @jackstoogood6559 3 роки тому +18

    Flowbee should still speedrun

    • @zacoolest11
      @zacoolest11 3 роки тому +19

      I agree, his movement is actually unironically good (watched his SSG runs), sad that the mods won't probably accept any of his submitted runs anymore, cheated or not. What a way to waste potential speedrunning skills.

    • @jackstoogood6559
      @jackstoogood6559 3 роки тому +7

      @@zacoolest11 i think he would still get viewers from streaming and given time he would be trusted again

    • @feelitwithnaman
      @feelitwithnaman 3 роки тому +1

      @@jackstoogood6559 i kinda thing he lied

    • @yotamchaimmoshe8013
      @yotamchaimmoshe8013 3 роки тому +1

      @@feelitwithnaman idk maybe you have trust issues. I guess you shouldn't trust him too much but everything he said makes sense so I believe him, I can see why you wouldn't tho.

    • @feelitwithnaman
      @feelitwithnaman 3 роки тому

      @@yotamchaimmoshe8013 yea

  • @marcus2305
    @marcus2305 3 роки тому +14

    This kid can come back from this! This scandle got his name out in a big way, time to come back and make a positive out of it

    • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
      @some_shitposting_idiot3023 3 роки тому +9

      doubt anyone will trust him not to cheat again

    • @suola_
      @suola_ 3 роки тому +6

      Sometimes popularity isn't a good thing

    • @mixturedre6869
      @mixturedre6869 2 роки тому

      @@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Once a cheater always a cheater

  • @markp8581
    @markp8581 Рік тому +1

    How about everyone involved get out of mom's basement and get a job

  • @Kali_Domesticated
    @Kali_Domesticated 3 роки тому +1

    hmm interesting

  • @updatedotexe
    @updatedotexe 2 роки тому +1

    Im so happy he got exposed for that and deleted all his channels. Deserved it so hard.

    • @TH-cx2yx
      @TH-cx2yx Рік тому +5

      he hasnt deleted his channels lol. He just turned transgender, renamed himself riannetv and now faked a sub 10 lmfao

    • @updatedotexe
      @updatedotexe Рік тому +1

      @@TH-cx2yx wow, he is pathetic

  • @NiklasStrahammer
    @NiklasStrahammer 3 роки тому +7

    How is this interview 'impartial'? You only agree with FlowBee and seem to feel bad for him?

    • @dotRianne
      @dotRianne 3 роки тому +17

      he's not picking a side and not making an enemy of me during the interview. Thats what impartial is.
      Him saying "mhm" and "I can see that" "yeah that makes sense" etc isnt him choosing my side.
      Fulham's mind on me is very set, and this interview was handeled very professionally considering his stance on me outside of it.

    • @NiklasStrahammer
      @NiklasStrahammer 3 роки тому +5

      @@dotRianne I disagree. His whole tone feels almost apologetic and him saying you have the right to be in discord servers you're banned from is anything but impartial.

    • @dotRianne
      @dotRianne 3 роки тому +11

      @@NiklasStrahammer if you wanna see non-impartial, look at his latest MCSR news vod where he talked about me.
      That's non-impartial.
      Him agreeing with something doesnt make him non-impartial.

    • @NiklasStrahammer
      @NiklasStrahammer 3 роки тому +4

      @@dotRianne I'm talking about him ONLY agreeing.
      Also just watched the VOD and my respect for Fulham is now regained :)
      And my disrespect for you further fueled.

    • @Maximus-rm7jn
      @Maximus-rm7jn 3 роки тому +19

      there's a difference between being a yes-man(as you seem to think fulham was being) and having an open ear. the climate in which you are interviewed is a major factor in getting a fuller perspective, which you don't get by immediately being hostile or even just coldly objective. fulham made the right play by being a little softer when a good chunk of the community was rather unsavory in their expressions of displeasure.

  • @explosiongames11
    @explosiongames11 3 роки тому +1

    Imagine being down that catastrophic

  • @LandonEmma
    @LandonEmma 2 роки тому +1

    you can't be mean to a woman!

  • @DualityofLife
    @DualityofLife 3 роки тому +5

    There was so much hate for this guy and yes, I agree, his actions weren't good, but here you got all the reasons why he did it, he even agreed with his actions being wrong why can't we just don't care anymore and if he want's to comeback, I'll let him and still watch his streams if he doesn't fake runs anymore.

    • @worstplayerxd5012
      @worstplayerxd5012 3 роки тому +1

      he does'nt lol

    • @DualityofLife
      @DualityofLife 3 роки тому +2

      @@worstplayerxd5012 I know, but if he would want to, I'd still watch his streams lol

    • @N3wW0rld
      @N3wW0rld Рік тому

      The fact that you're not repulsed by a serial liar and deceiver--who kept lying repeatedly even after getting caught--says a lot about your own integrity and moral compass.

    • @decayedphoenix8865
      @decayedphoenix8865 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@N3wW0rldITS A FUCKING BLOCK GAME BRO

    • @N3wW0rld
      @N3wW0rld 11 місяців тому

      @@decayedphoenix8865 What is even your point? I feel like I'm talking to a 75 IQ person.

  • @jocurl4057
    @jocurl4057 3 роки тому

    Yoo

  • @ERENLEONHART
    @ERENLEONHART Рік тому

    Why everyone hating flowbee

  • @allyspeedruns
    @allyspeedruns 3 роки тому +5

    dude blocked me on twitter cause i called him "weird" lol

  • @jorswar-6362
    @jorswar-6362 3 роки тому +2

    Socially incapable of speaking to people? Dude get off your computer…

  • @polskudeutschnederlandsfra3915
    @polskudeutschnederlandsfra3915 2 роки тому +1

    This is not a real interview, i have never heard someone who is dutch speak english without a sort of dutch accent kind of thing, it is near impossible to hear, but when a dutch person speaks english it sounds different then english ppl speaking english... so, FAKE

    • @itsbecca
      @itsbecca 2 роки тому +2

      Is this a joke? He very clearly has an accent.

    • @Your_choise
      @Your_choise 2 роки тому +2

      @@itsbecca probably a joke

  • @kkkrhtkhkll
    @kkkrhtkhkll 3 роки тому

    great,great great!!!

  • @GWTNess
    @GWTNess 2 роки тому

    t0xic_flow

  • @ImCarpet
    @ImCarpet 2 роки тому +32

    I can understand the social anxiety issues, but it's not at all an excuse to not get a job. I don't doubt that in his head he really thinks he could never work in a place like that. When I was 17 my grandparents made me go to an interview at a local grocery store.. I have really bad social anxiety and if it wasn't for that initial push from my grandparents I wouldn't have even applied for that job. I ended up working there for 5 years. I got full time, I became the frozen and dairy manager, and talking to customers and helping them wasn't as bad as I made it out to be in my head. I feel bad for this dude I really do but he just needs someone to push him to get a real job and I think it will improve his confidence and make him happier.

    • @DualityofLife
      @DualityofLife 2 роки тому +1

      This comment is one day old and still got
      4 likes immediately…people still watch this video. I have really bad social anxiety as well and I can only confirm your comment.