The ⁽ᵘˢᵉˡᵉˢˢ⁾ history of Shield Attack Speed - Darksouls Trilogy
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- And to think someone might of waited 4+ years for this video. So let's finally cover what determines shield attack speed and it's tiers for ALL the mainline soul games. Things are gonna get MILD.
𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲 𝗖𝗼𝗱𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗿𝘀
0:33- The deepest lore
1:43- How we shall test / clarifying the question
2:13- DARK SOULS 1 DATA START
4:40- Dark Souls 1 Greatshield Speeds
5:49- DARK SOULS 3 DATA START?
6:55- Dark Souls 3 Greatshield Speeds
7:25- DARK SOULS 2 DATA START
9:27- Dark Souls 2 Greatshield Speeds
10:07- Do heavy/alternate attacks follow these rules?
10:15- Why are you such a problem child dark souls 2?
11:30- DS2 The mystery of the shield attack speed solved
12:15- The FINAL RECAP of all shield speeds
𝗢𝗵, 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗮𝗿 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗺𝘆 𝗣𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗼𝗻 𝗜 𝗴𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘀
/ limitbreakers
𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗽𝘀 𝗜 𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗹𝗲 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗥𝗜𝗣 𝗣𝗦𝟰, 𝗽𝗹𝘇 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝘀𝘂𝗲
KWIATINIO- • Bloodborne - Loch Shield
xHolmesWalkthroughsx7- • Bloodborne: Wooden Shi...
*WTF THIS IS SOMEWAT USEFUL DATA!!!!!!*
*I DEMAND MY PATREON MONEY BACK!*
that fuq
wHeRe iS tHE mIRaclE bUIld oLD mAAAAN?!?!?!?!?!
Where is it?
No, we NEED to know more about shield attack speed
You mean we need a wepone attackspeeed video? About the swords and so just in case they different? Wow men you are smarter then I thought! Can we applause to him for this great idea?
Samuel Billman he already did it a long time ago.
More importantly he promised one particular blood borne video a couple years back hmmmm :-
There’s only 2 shields in bloodborne and their only purpose is to tell you that there are no shields in bloodborne
"Shields are for cowards, and blocking is just going to stagger you."
OtakuUnitedStudio Tbf the dlc is actually pretty good for fighting arcane
@@LeemVonNelly yeah, the only arcane counter
in the dlc that has an arcane weapon as a reward for completing it
Ehh the lock shield is alright when battling the blue bean bags that is the Living Failures. Sometimes they get lucky with their shots. Other than that, it’s pretty useless
Bloodborne base game: Here's a shield
The Shield: Fuck you
Banjo got added to Smash before Limit could add a viable miracle build to DS3.
What are you talking about? Miracle builds are definitely viable. I made it a point to run through the game with every type if character and my favorites were the pure castors. Miracle only, Spell only, and Pyromancy only are not only viable, but pretty busted in some cases.
@@alastor8091 Then why hasn't Old Man shown us yet??
I mean
Gnaw is pretty good
Dorhy's Gnawing is really strong, too
Dorhys gnawing plus raw Dragonslayer axe with lightning buff. There ya go.
Update: Steve got added before oldman gave us the cursed miracle build
(We won’t be getting it and so be it but haha big funny)
Other Soultuber: omG tHerE is a NEw FrOm SoFT GaMe.
Limit Breaker: How fast are shields x3?
:)
Huh. A new game, that is not part of a series they’ve already had established... Hahaha, fuck you From, I want Armored Souls or Armored Cores die twice or whatever, why has god abandoned us?
Dark souls and armored core fans will now share the pain
Armored Core boiz will just play Daemon X Machina since it's basically just armored core with metal music
Tristan M I want all of the recent ones made by the crew that went to make more mechs, including that one stealth (Left Behind I think?) and the other ones, but am broke. :(
Honorable hunter, whhhat ahhh bout blood dorn.
Taking a break from the E3 coverage eh?
Limit Breakers I saw you remove my heart on that miracle build comment
Limit Breakers you’re breathtaking
Pretty much
Hope you're doing well!
This year has been both amazing, awful, but ultimately dominated by "What the fuck they're making that?" shout out to dark crystal, Blair witch, and panzer dragoon (last one is both wtf and amazing).
Hidetaka Miyazaki, c. 2010: "Oh, wow, I hope this game will be really fun for people for a long time!"
Dark Souls Fanbase, c. 2019:
2023:
Just imagine this guy working on his real life job...
Man you are amazing!
whats his real life job?
@@ungoliver Male stripper
@@Prophet_of_gecko_jesus0001 i am intrigued
@@ungoliver i see...
@@Prophet_of_gecko_jesus0001 wasn’t he 17 in 2019 though?
wHeRe Is ThAt OlD mAn, MiRaClE bUiLd?
WhEre iS ThE Old MiRacLe , bUiLd mAn?
whEre is thE oLd buILD, mAn mirAcLe?
5:13 "There isn't any shields between these two weights."
Greatshield of Artorias weighs 16 units. Right between those weights.
You disappoint me with your lack of DS1 knowledge. How am I supposed to trust your useless data now?
Obviously the video needs to be redone and the shields retested just to make sure there are no other errors. I look forward to DS shields part 3.
This
Her name was Anastasia and she was the BEST because you didn't have to sit through a loading screen to level up at her.
I think you mean fair lady, and she's the best because she doesn't spam you with dialogue and will happily help you save Solaire.
@@theapexsurvivor9538 Fair Lady and Anastacia are similar but one isn't killed by Lautrec. 😆
@@minespatch and one never complains about you completing her quest.
I can already guess which of the new pokemon versions you are gonna pick, huh.
Sword right the legendary is a darksouls boss
Finally someone saw Sif !!!
@@uninconnu5844 Who didn't?
That game is gonna suck so bad. I almost want to buy it just to see how bad it is
You all missed the joke he’s getting shield!
I remember Great Shields from DS1, they were a thing of Terror.
Invaders would block pathways at Archer's Pass in Anor Londo, or Hosts would use Dried Fingers within the Painted World and camp the bridge spawn.
Don't underestimate The Wall™!
There's a reason career invaders had a shotel on their side in case of shit like that happened
Eagle shield is my waifu. That baby carried me in ds1. Havel's did nicely in ds2 if the gyrm shield can't protect in some instances.
Adjucator worked nicely in demon's.
9:58 that 4th wall break edit was genius. Also, the information was clear and easy to understand (even though this guide is a little useless). You've earned a sub.
it being useless is kinda the point tho^^ its even in the title
I checked the time as soon as the break happened, it was trippy
You know, one thing that's disappointing is you never get to hit them with the shield edge-on. Black knights have a move where they do it, but players can't.
oh the jab move?
don't black knights also use their swords as longswords, rather than as greatswords? I want that too.
That would have made an awesome weapon art.
@@Jormyyy would've been cool to have a shield or 2 that are full on weapons like some Captain America or Shield Hero type stuff.
@@alastor8091 The Giant Door Shield from Dark Souls III says hi.
"besides, no one played best souls game any way"
Looks at my PS3 with Demon's Soul in living room.
*Cries in Maiden in Black*
Eh, King's field represents!!
Me: "I'm going to be so productive today"
2 hours later
Me: "oh boy, shield data!"
DS2 shields also had the ability to block when you attacked. I used to do PvP with the Sanctum shield and nobody could ever figure out what to do against spamming R1 (it would often block the attack AND hit them), man that was a fun time
Not just DS2 ones. I cleaned Demon's Souls focusing on the spiked shield (except the dragons of course) mostly because of defending while attacking.
The fact that you can keep my interest during a 13 minute video about something I don't remotely care about and will never factor into a play through says a lot about your talent. Well done, as always.
Did you notice I love your videos? It's true. Just a useless comment for some useless data.
*begins to bash you about the video we just saw, but gives up
Not that useless when you're doing a shield run or using a shield in main hand for utility. For certain shield it takes more time to begin charging with the R2 for heavier shields than with lighter shields, which can make the difference between pushing some fool off a cliff and having them dodge out of the way. Also a big difference with getting The Bed Of Chaos's branches out of your way, and you being incinerated.
Also this data can be used while picking shields for pve. It's important to know that all shields seem to have a small frame where they simultaneously block attacks while attacking (haven't tried great shields yet for this.) This means lighter shields can attack and defend you from pve enemies with faster attacks, despite their lower AR.
I can't say this is true for Two or Three, just for One.
12+5=17 i have used my big brain powers to deduce that limit is 17
You forgot that time is convoluted
Kuisma Haapala time for some jolly cooperation.
He's just older than I am!
Her name is Anastacia of Astora, Limit. Get on my level.
JK lub u bb
Reading this here isn't googling it so I guess I win too.
i actually knew this xd
DS2: Composition; the shield dif is. Leather and wood are faster. Stone and metal are slower. unless they're little.
I noticed that the fast shields of DS1 seemed to be small metal, wooden or leather, with the slower ones being large metal shields. Kind of a nice touch.
Don't listen to them Dark Souls 2. I will always love you
I will always love you Mr. Watson
I lava u, dark souls twooooo
I'm sorry I had to dislike this comment
@@lowellfulmer2425 Casul
@@lowellfulmer2425 Casul
Imagine making a dark souls video in 2019.
I kid of course, I do love you.
memes? nah i prefer to laugh it up over my daily dose of useless data delivery
"daily"
That overlay great shield was actually a pretty cool design.
respect
The shield that does the most damage was in DS2. 880 a hit (fully upgraded, quality build). It was also able to cast Sorcery. Not to mention attacking blocks other attacks... Have fun.
Oh, and Poison Ladle is very useful.
I like how the DS2 greatshields could be used with a leaping attack with crazy tracking.
Quality in uselessness , amazing 10/10 video a masterpiece
I haven't even finished the video yet but how dare you assume I don't remember Anastacia.
Ikr 🙄
Ds2 might have something to do with what the shield is made from in game.
The fast ones looked more like wooden and leather ones. The medium ones metal
DS2 was just shape. Round means fast. Pointed means slow. And the superslow greatshields are more or less all big rectangles.
u're a genius -n
@@Ochiwing So that means that DS2 actually modeled the aerodynamics for each sheid. Man, that game was truly ahead of its time.
What about the dual shields? Powerstancing Reeve and Orma's Greatshields?
yeah I was waiting for that, especially now that we know the door shield in 3 used their model during alpha testing.
I wonder when you'l run out of content to make on the souls serie. Until then, keep up the good work, your videos are always amazing.
He won't truly run out of content, by that time he will have become a torch hollow and will do data on what being that is like.
One of the best channels on UA-cam by far, great video always look foreword to them.
Your editing is what makes these videos so good. Keep it up.
Ahh another ⁽ᵘˢᵉˡᵉˢˢ⁾ data video.
*I've been looking forward to this.*
I literally used the heater shield the entire game. Estoc, chainset, and the Heater shield were all I needed
Thank you for making the video for the best pvp weapon type in dark souls games.
Imma be straight up-
The FFIX bgm makes this vid so much more enjoyable. Thank you for that.
Limit Breaker shows once again his great musical taste !
Bloodborne shield analysis please
Nvm good thing I watched till the end
I know I'm late but is nobody talking about the quiet angry video game nerd theme song at the beginning?
Did you ever use the jumping forward attack in dark souls 1 on the tower shields? It will pancake the enemy immediately if you land it, doing a guaranteed knockdown. It's hilarious in PVP.
There was some data that was released when remasted came out which tied weapon attack speed directly to weight. No body noticed but basically the dagger became slightly better than the bandit knife despite outdamaging it because it was faster. It actually has a higher dps than the bandit knife. The painting gardian sword,the zwihander and the mail breaker is the same.
>2:00
I get that it's fun to meme Miracle builds, but I have one on DS3 that can 1-shot with only 2 items, and 2 rings. It's really not that hard to make.
Y'know what? For the meme, I'll do it for you.
Step 1. 50 FTH
Step 2. Ring Of The Suns first born
Step 3. Morne's ring
Step 4. Sage Ring+2
Step 5. Lothric War Banner
Step 6. Rose Of Ariandel
GG, you now have the access to 1-shotting anyone in the arena/white phantoms, recommended miracles:
Sunlight Spear, Lightning Storm/Stake (Storm is more damage, but costs more spell slots, I use Stake personally for better stat management, but they both roll catch like beasts.) and projected heal, projected heal is for when you cast Rose of Ariandel since it drains some HP, but it's immediately healed after casting projected heal at your feet
I *HEAVILY* recommend the Canvas Talisman for the poise casting, and damage, but the Saint's Talisman will guarantee more 1-shots due to damage output, but has a worse Weapon Art for poising through hits, you can also go 60 FTH to make up for the Canvas Talisman's lesser spell buff here, and it'll work wonders. You're welcome, and happy 1-shots with Sunlight Spear, make anyone who dares trade with you instantly die.
Also don't forget, infuse your Lothric War Banner with Lighting, it'll make it chip damage shields, and actually do damage. (pro tip you can remove the Rose Of Ariandel from your hand and keep the effect, you can't do that with the Lothric War Banner, so it's better to use the war banner like a weapon in this case with your Talisman on your off-hand. It should also go without saying but actually use the Weapon arts on the Lothric War banner, and the Rose Of Ariandel. That's where your damage comes from. No RTSR necessary. The 2 other rings you choose are up to you, but if you want to pad out some defenses, Ring Of Life+3 or favor and protection+3 help a lot.)
Miracles ahead, therefore nice work skeleton
Not trying to poke holes on your build or miracle builds in general, I have a blast playing them both on PVE and arena PVP;
But, when playing PVP in the arena, if you start buffing too much (especially weapon arts with lengthy animations like Rose and War Banner), people just tend to rush at you to attack, and I don't even blame them lol
Most people are polite the first time you fight them, but once they get one-shotted, they'll just rush at you on rematches. I get that the damage buff is just a nice plus, but 80% of the time you won't be one-shotting people because you won't be able to get both your buffs off.
@@MatNightmare Except the fact I've been running this build and it only happened once, I also won that interaction despite not being able to get my buffs off. And 80% of the time I'm literally one-shotting nerds who try to trade with a sunlight spear. I hate to burst *your* bubble, but what game are you playing? In the events it doesn't one shot, it'll 2-shot, and trading twice, or even 1 trade with a roll catch will end the fight. Miracle builds are good, people are just bad. That and on top of the fact that it doesn't even NEED to 1-shot to be good, seriously the game gives you enough tools (roll catching with storm/stake) long range attacks (sunlight spear) among other annoying tools like Lightning Bow, what more do you need?
@@AkiraSatou Jeez, okay, getting kinda overly defensive there for no reason, but I didn't mean the build is bad or unfeasible at all. I was merely sharing my experience playing a buff-heavy build. From what I've seen, most people just don't have the patience to wait for you to buff. That's all I meant.
@@MatNightmare Except I'm not being defensive, I'm telling you my experiences with the build I just gave to everyone. And since your reality, and mine directly clash, it seems like I'm being defensive. However I'll be taking my side of the argument here since I played first hand with mine the way I did and didn't have many issues, however you played with yours how you did, and you found issues. I'm willing to wager you didn't make the build right, or you can't perform up to par of what someone who PVPs does usually, and I mean that in the nicest, non "u suck at video game lol" way possible, it's entirely up for debate if you genuinely messed the build up, or you're just bad at PVP. Either or I can safely say I haven't had an issue at all, and I assume people who copy by build 1:1 for invasions, duels, or Arena should find the same success as I did, as long as they are just as apt players as I am. Same applies to anyone who uses an INT build, or hex build. It's not like you have to work any harder using my Miracle build, and in fact I suggest you don't even need to try at all lmao, just trade a Sunlight spear when you can, and abuse the roll catch of Storm/Stake and GG.
You're Edits are on a other level then other gamer youtubers❤
Mad respect to everyone still playing ds3 in 2019 🤜🏼🤛🏻
Mad respect to everyone still playing ds2 in 2019 as well 🤜🏼🤛🏻
0:35 Excuse me! Sir! You magnificent bastard! How dare you start on such a stupendous note and energize me with passion!
Bruh I really watched this knowing well that I don't even use shield...
That shield overlay example was pretty cool.
You can't hide from the truth Limit.
The Emerald Herald is Best Girl, and nothing you do can change that.
10/10 video though, thanks for the data. It seems to have aged quite well.
Personally, I prefer a girl with wax over her eyes.
@@MusicVersa The Maiden in Black is a contender for Best GIrl, but until a Demon's Souls remaster comes I'm afraid that Emerald Herald still wins out.
It'll come one day.
Right?
@@RecurringExtra Demon's Souls Remake PS5 launch title.
"I can't call myself a Dark Souls youtuber unless I pretend that Dark Souls 2 doesn't exist" - Limit Breakers 11 Jun 2019
Ive watched this channel for half a week now and it is this one quote the reason why I am subscribing forever.
*feeble cursed one* I wasn't expecting that😂
I heard that Lindblum theme in the background there! Wonderful choice of song my dude!
+1 Like for the FF9 music
Best Final Fantasy
Fight Me!
EwW yOu lIkE fF In gEnEraL
Challenge accepted ! FF6 best one, but FF9 comes 2nd for me, so no hard feelings ;)
@@fiatlux7997 That's a respectable FF. If nostalgia didn't influence my opinion on FF9 (or 5 for that matter) then 6 would be my fave since it's the best FF of the 2D era by far!
And also 6 has the best normal battle theme and victory fanfare in the series hands down!
@@9000And1Fails The nostalgia we feel towards video games is the best part of it if you ask me. I've played FF6 since I was 4, so this game will forever remain special in my heart. Let us just thank Square for the gorgeous games they developed for us to enjoy even today :)
@@fiatlux7997 Yeah that's why Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all time. The music alone gives me an immense feeling of nostalgia, not to mention the visuals and the story are great!
Thank you for including all 3 games!
Don't worry guys! There will be a miracle build video in aboooout..
The same amount of time that passes between the events of Dark Souls 1 and 3!
kappa
TEN THOUSAND YEEEEARS
will give you such a crick in the neck
@@PunkZombie1300 You've never had a friend like me!
Made ya look!
In the time it takes for the Universe to be created and fade into nothingness, Brahman will age as if a day.
In the time it takes for Brahman to be born and to grow old and die, Vishnu will age as if a day.
In the time it takes for Vishnu to be born and to grow old and die, Shiva will age as if a day.
In the time it takes for Shiva to be born and to grow old and die, Limit STILL won't have a Miracle Build video.
I didn’t think the DS1 icons were that crusty, but now that I see the bone wheel, I can’t unsee the crust.
I liked dark souls 2.
Fite me
Your my absolute favorite content creator on this platform. You put so much effort into shit I'll never find useful especially since I only played dark souls 1 back when it first came out.
What about demon's souls?
Edit: Ah shit, he got me!
I remember that old shield video. Actually immediately thought about it when I saw the notification!
Man, this is pretty ＵＳＥＬＥＳＳ
Yo, that clip blending at 9:40 was actually super smooth.
I’m so glad they gave shields different attack speeds rather than fixing the Bed of Chaos
Because those two gameplay elemets are even related?
jazzmaster909 Obviously
I love the FFIX music you stuck in 4:43.
Quickest of all recaps:
DS1 = logically diversified
DS2 = random
DS3 = all the same
This applies to shield attack speed too :^)
Ds1:Democracy
Ds2:anarchy
Ds3:Comunism
It's just a joke
I cannot explain why these videos captivate me.
*Still waiting for them to remaster Demon Souls*
Something something demon's souls remake on ps5...
That AVGN intro at 0:34. Your videos are full of Easter eggs
5:10 What about the Greatshield of Artorias or Black Iron Shield? Both weigh 16 units. There's also the Stone Greatshield, but that one should probably be slow.
12:48 This sounds like a streaming opportunity to get that sweet Twitch cash.
I love the subtle editing you do in your videos like sounds effects.
oLd mAN wE nEed tHAt mIrAclE bUiLd tO fiGhT tHe SpOok OvErlOAd
Man you are just one of my fav channels!
BUT SERIOUSLY, WHERE IS THAT MIRACLE BUIILD!?
Glad I came back to watch this a year later. I was interesting on using the Shield on right hand for experiments.
*Unpopular opinion* ds3 is my least favorite of the series (including bloodborne and demon souls)
mine too
It's about on par with Demon's Souls for me because Demon's Souls are the souls mechanics at their most basic, clunky, and unrefined. In Dark Souls 3 all the mechanics are taken past their best point in my opinion to the point that they are both too simple in some areas such as upgrading being reduced to only weapons and then changed unnecessarily in others such as going back to a Mana bar when spells per Attunement seemed much more balanced especially having something like tears of denial capable of being cast multiple times per life.
@@mattp3736 Eh, balance shmalance. Never met anyone I couldn't kill regardless of build.
@@SeraphimxSins I don't think anyone is talking about pvp seeing how from an overall quality perspective it is mostly negligible in any review capacity outside of how the covenant systems add to the experience. Instead I'm talking about how the mana bar made pve a joke if you play a spellcasting class whereas attunement required you to play conservatively or run out of spells to face whatever was ahead of you.
Eh maybe not the worst... Bloodborne exists
Absolutely no shield variety 0/10
I'm actually kinda serious. I really do hate that game because of the things that make it not a souls game
ie. Basically no shields, no flask, uninteresting main character role (which is to say 0 story motivation to progress), no bonfires, no rolling, a hub that made no sense, bland characters (as proof, name one character trait of one character that isn't shared with at least 4 others), and a number of other traits that didnt appeal to me but it seems many did like.
5:45 You made me pause the video and gaze intensely into the wall for 3 minutes until I remembered
Only my boy ymfah shows Best Souls 2 proper respect. Yeah, Soul Memory sucks and ADP is wack but everything else is great.
Agree
Inferno plus and otzdarva too
@@krakkentrace6095 True
I love these data videos so much, even more when it's actually you narrating it
Incorrect. DkS 1 fire keeper dies and gives me the best light chest in all souls and thus is the *BEST* fire keeper.
Matthew Coyle And she gives you twenty estus from firelink shrine without needing to go search for that rite of kindling.
That’s pretty neat too.
At least it’s nice of her.
YES!!! Maybe 4 hours ago I was just wishing for a new video from you
What about Demon's souls! (sad face)
Oh...he actually brought it up. but then he ignored it :/
you making the miracle build video would be a miracle itself
Dark souls 2 is the best one
Thanks for making this video, I have been wondering this since ds3 came out!
It wouldn't be Dark Souls 2 unless it was weirdly different for no apparent reason
FEEBLE CURSED ONE! You spelled better incorrectly.
Ender Pin He spelled shittier correctly though.
Yeah why did they do that shit whit dark souls 2?
Really liked the overlay on the ds2 heavy shield comparison
I disagree that Dark Souls 3 recycles Dark Souls 1's themes. Not exactly. It builds on them, gets to their logical conclusions. Personally I think it handles the themes just the way a sequel should. It adds on to the original ideas, takes them to new places, and recontextualizes them.
thank you this is not useless i have been trying to make a pure shield build and this helped so thank you
Thank you, Limit, for wasting your time compiling useless information.
This is somewhat useful for my darksouls shield only playthrough
Ah, I see. This useless shield data took four years, and so Old Man will make his viable miracle build video in approximately 2096!
Also, the DS1 Firekeeper's name is Anastacia! No google needed! I got my DS1 Lore DOWN!
Thank you, now I can finally make my _Dark Souls 2 attack speed shield-only build._
Did you consider the block values of the shields in the slow and fast categories for Dark Souls 2? There might be a pattern there.
Love you limit break. Never change.
1:35 what's the fashion souls? I know its a Winged Knight Helmet but what else?
My Answer is after a bit of testing
Black Hand Armor for upper body
Lapps Armor for legs and arms
Im sure of it now after rewatching this useless data
@@kingsquester136 Thank you bunches. Might use this on my next play through!
@@Molotovyeen No Problem it looks pretty Nice hope you have fun with it
much easier to watch these vids with someone actually narrating instead of the generated voiceover, despite the latter's charm