Enclave Traverse Acadia LLT 3.6L V6 BRUTAL Engine Destruction. I Heard You Guys Like Carnage!

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • www.Importapart.com OR Importapartsales@gmail.com.
    Welcome to the channel where we teardown engines, try to figure out why they failed, and see what can be salvaged. At this point, I have over 80 videos of teardowns with various engines and various failures! Here are a some of my favorites:
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    Today's subject is a 3.6L direct injected V6 from a Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, GMC Acadia, or Saturn Outlook. This engine is the predecessor of the 3.6L LFX which is found in the Camaro, CTS, Terrain, G8, Caprice, and LOTS of other GM products.
    Unfortunately I have no backstory as this was a customers old engine returned to one of the salvage yards I do business with. As you can quickly see, this engine suffered a violent and catastrophic failure. Could this have been avoided? were there signs and symptoms before the point of no return?
    As always, I love all the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
    Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric

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  • @wglnaeclipse8715
    @wglnaeclipse8715 2 роки тому +184

    Great vid as always. First time I've ever seen anyone "cam the crack caps loose" -- proof one can never be too old to learn something new.

    • @jrhutchison89
      @jrhutchison89 2 роки тому +6

      Beat me to it lolol. Came to make same comment lolol.

    • @saltycreole2673
      @saltycreole2673 2 роки тому +7

      Ya' knew something learn every day! Come on man!
      -Joe Biden

    • @sergeantpeppers8858
      @sergeantpeppers8858 2 роки тому +1

      I was coming for this quote.

    • @darrylhaynes9208
      @darrylhaynes9208 2 роки тому +6

      @@saltycreole2673 great guy that epstein. Only criminals take the 5th.
      Tfg

    • @Viperman200221
      @Viperman200221 2 роки тому +1

      I had to replay it back to make sure that is what he said, LOL!

  • @IBEDAVE87
    @IBEDAVE87 2 роки тому +36

    The timing issues were ✨mostly✨ sorted out on these after MY2013 with updated guides and tensioners. The reluctor wheel slipping are quite commonplace with the LLT and LFX RPO's. HPFP & cam follower failure is another issue. I have personally seen a fair amount of valve spring breaks to call it something to look out for - though I don't exactly recall why they fail.
    Great teardown as always, and day 69,420 of wanting to buy a four piece Piston McNugget.

    • @EasyAchiever65
      @EasyAchiever65 Рік тому +9

      I had one that run for 300k km honestly reasonably reliably, LY7 too. It did do the timing chains at 280k km (original chains! - good oil changes though, every 7k km/4k miles), and also had a random valve/lifter issue. Pulled the valve cover off to see a single rocker arm lying in the head.
      Put it back on, car did another 40k km before I got rid of it.

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 Рік тому

      It's kinda funny to think, this shit pile masquerading as an engine is actually part of why GM "changes their warranty and service bulletins"

    • @paulspomer16
      @paulspomer16 8 місяців тому +5

      This engine is very picky about its oil and maintenance. It is not tolerant to neglect. You must change the oil every 5k miles or less and must always keep the oil level at the top of you want them to last. If you maintain them perfectly in this way, you won’t have timing chain issues and the engine will easily go over 250k miles.

  • @huzudra
    @huzudra 2 роки тому +38

    Oh, a tip for you if you ever see this comment. An old run-flat tire makes an excellent engine holder for engines with deeper sumps or ones without pallets. They're really stiff so they hold the engine up pretty well but also the rubber is pretty grippy on the engine and on the ground or work surface so they don't slide around as much. Have you considered using ratchet straps to hold the engine pallets down to your work platform?

    • @plageran
      @plageran 2 роки тому

      he does.... sometimes.....

  • @seanwatford2964
    @seanwatford2964 2 роки тому +159

    “Next, we are going to cam the crack caps loose” Haha, I actually laughed out loud when you said that. I get my words mixed up all the time as well, I feel your pain.

    • @c.markdavis2143
      @c.markdavis2143 2 роки тому +5

      Me also, at first I thought it was an accident….. nah, meant to do that!

    • @TOGC
      @TOGC 2 роки тому +10

      I love it. Ever since he made this very freudian slip back in a previous episode (I think it was a few ago), I guess he decided to make it a running joke

    • @demonknight7965
      @demonknight7965 2 роки тому +2

      I thought he said cram craps lol

    • @danielgallagher2805
      @danielgallagher2805 2 роки тому +2

      I had to rewind that a couple times after I heard it. Thought I was having a stroke 🤣

    • @ronjon4010
      @ronjon4010 2 роки тому +1

      HaHa ! I thought I heard that too. But I'm 71 and can't trust my hearing so good anymore. Now I see the comments I realize I did hear that one. LOL

  • @johnoldonekanole602
    @johnoldonekanole602 2 роки тому +5

    Dude you have way to much fun . I am 74 and seriously amazed at how complicated todays ICE have become . Just my opinion but should not be this way . I had a 225 slant 6 back in the 70s and it was fun to take apart and work on . I can not see the fun in working on the new engines . Be safe and thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge .

  • @nickbrooks3253
    @nickbrooks3253 2 роки тому +22

    I've seen these break valve springs before. Not very common but it does happen. The few I've seen with broken springs came in with a ticking noise and an intermittent misfire on the cylinder with the broken spring. Seen one totally blow up the way yours did but I'm not sure if there was misfires and noise before it blew up that the customer didn't notice. Timing chains were a major issue on the early 3.6. They would stretch and set timing codes usually P0008 and P0017. Sometimes you would get a rattling noise from behind the timing cover as well. If ignored it would eventually jump time and bend valves. This was not helped at all by the oil life monitor in the early Traverses (and other vehicles on that platform) that would allow close to 20000 km between oil changes on conventional oil. If customers followed it and never checked the oil level the engine would sludge up and start burning oil and then you'd end up with stretched chains or spun rod bearings. There eventually was a recall on those vehicles to reprogram the olm so it wouldn't allow such long oil change intervals. Another common problem with these was the timing cover leaking oil at the joint where the right cylinder head meets the block. Not usually a major leak but annoying. If you own a 3.6 (or the 3.0 V6 which is 99% the same) make sure to change the oil regularly and use only full synthetic oil and check the level once in a while. If you need to do the timing chains only use OEM parts I've seen a lot of issues with aftermarket ones failing again under a year after being installed. The later 3.6s are a lot more reliable than the earlier ones. Don't really see any timing chain issues on the 2012+ LFX engines unless they were neglected to absolute hell.

    • @kaidem1749
      @kaidem1749 Рік тому

      Know of any causes of misfires on a llt 3.6 all cylinders but 4, miafire goes away when on throttle on there at idle

    • @Titanic19127
      @Titanic19127 Рік тому

      I’m looking into getting a 2011-2014 CTS coupe. 60-100k miles. Would I have to worry about a catastrophic failure like this shown in the video?? Or timing chain issues. With all my cars I’ve owned I get them changed at 3k miles.

    • @paulspomer16
      @paulspomer16 8 місяців тому +1

      You’re exactly correct. The 2012 and later models of this engine has the timing chain issues mostly fixed. But this engine is still very picky about it’s oil and maintenance and it is not tolerant to neglect. If you maintain it perfectly, always changing the oil every 5k miles or less, and always keeping the oil level at the top, they will easily go over 250k miles reliably.

  • @southerncross3638
    @southerncross3638 Рік тому +4

    The Achilles heel in these motors is prolonged oil changes, I have a 2005 Caddy srx with one I change the oil every 2000 miles (oils cheap] plus add a bottle of Rislone, also shoot a couple of shots of throttle body cleaner down the pcv, never let it go more than half a quart low on oil. 250.000 miles runs like a top.

  • @TheMadTube
    @TheMadTube 2 роки тому +4

    From 2:24-3:12 was a faithful reenactment to when I eat dairy. Even the dialogue is accurate. Kudos.

    • @TheCRTman
      @TheCRTman 7 місяців тому +1

      I'm deaddddddddddddddddddddddd

    • @thereve
      @thereve 2 місяці тому

      Bro… Lol 😅

  • @russellvoth5161
    @russellvoth5161 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for doing the GM 3.6 engine, major damage in the palace really hard to believe the amount. I have 3.6 that had its timing chain replaced with only 124000km, looks like poorly heat-treated steel as the oil was regularly changed at 5000km for it whole life. Since having this issue with the chains, I haven't and won't purchase any GM with this 3.6 as they have some issues that GM isn't addressing. I was a GM guy from my youth but have moved on, again thanks for doing this 3.6 very informative about the possible damage.

  • @daveh2612
    @daveh2612 2 роки тому +10

    I’m actually surprised this wasn’t the first damn engine you did for this channel. Every junkyard everywhere is littered with failed GM 3.6 engines.

  • @stevem268
    @stevem268 2 роки тому +2

    it amazes me how far car engines have come in the last 30 years. back in the day a chevy impala would have had a massive pushrod v8. now it's a dohc, 4 valves per cyclinder, direct injection v6.

  • @TwentytenS4B8
    @TwentytenS4B8 2 роки тому +9

    That's exactly what happened. Valve spring broke and it swallowed a valve. That thing had to sound like skeletons screwing on a tin roof. For your next teardown, I'd like to see an Audi 3.0T.

    • @christopherjones512
      @christopherjones512 2 роки тому

      GM POOR MANUFACTURING

    • @YungEagle3k
      @YungEagle3k 2 роки тому +1

      The audi 3.0s are pretty good engines

    • @TwentytenS4B8
      @TwentytenS4B8 2 роки тому +1

      @@YungEagle3k Yup, I own one with 210,000 miles and counting.

    • @appleimacdude
      @appleimacdude 2 роки тому

      How often do you hear skeletons screwing on a tin roof?

  • @peterhoworth2688
    @peterhoworth2688 6 місяців тому

    I love your videos I’m from Australia I pulled apart one of these today and it had deleted the rockers and bent a few valves never had an oil change in its life the amount of gunk was overwhelming iv watched nearly all off your videos love what you do you have given me the inspiration to pull apart engines just to see what has gone wrong

  • @bigbubba5289
    @bigbubba5289 Рік тому +5

    From the LFX modified engine to newer these engines seem to have far fewer problems. GM made several changes including modifying the timing chain system and they also changed the oil replacement algorithm. I have a highly modified 3.6 LFX with stock forged crank, aftermarket forged rods, pistons, camshafts, and aftermarket valve train parts. There are several companies selling supercharger kits for these engines but I have learned from experience that the stock hypereutectic pistons will NOT live long under boost.

    • @jumpjumps197
      @jumpjumps197 Рік тому +1

      I have the 3.6 LGX. Is that a newer improved version of the the LFX?

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 Рік тому +1

      @@jumpjumps197 Yes

  • @glennshumaker2019
    @glennshumaker2019 2 роки тому +2

    Eric I enjoyed the 3.6 teardown, I have been waiting for a teardown of the 3.6. I have a 2012 Traverse LT with the 3.6 engine. I have all the bad reports on the timing chain and a few other things that others dont even know not just the engine although I have read other reports. This one has 173.000 + on it and still runs fairly good(needs a fuel pressure regulator) right now,I use it to do Lyft it's kind of small for a 4900 pound vehicle,your teardown has.shown the architecture of the engine. I keep the maintenance up though, working on the engine is another story, had to replace the water pump very difficult. Enjoyed the information learned in the viedo mine is a little different like lntigrated exhaust manifold, but I think the design of the basic engine is the same.I enjoy all your videos.One 1 more thing I was a diesel mechanic for 26 years, Cummins Mack, Catapiller, Detroit Diesel. It is kind of funny, guys go to school to work on diesel, but when they get in the real world it's a different story, every thing is greasy, dirty you name it, not many are clean, grease is a give me. I enjoy all of your teardowns videos.

    • @glennshumaker2019
      @glennshumaker2019 2 роки тому

      One more thing, the computer limits vehicle speed to 108 mph....LOL

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 7 місяців тому

      GM fixed all the bugs on these....some guy stated by 2013... maybe it was 2012... Can't complain about making it to 173,000 and still running good..after the corrections they are known to get to 200K and beyond...

  • @Human-yd7mb
    @Human-yd7mb 2 роки тому +9

    Love these videos , it like seeing an autopsy done on a blown engine

  • @michaelschmidt1402
    @michaelschmidt1402 2 роки тому +5

    GM Tech here, I think this is a RWD variant of engine due to the design of the timing cover. From memory the FWD design has a lip built into it for the engine mount. Funny enough we have almost the exact same failure in our shop right now in a Colorado, hole in the block, dropped valve, broken spring. We suspect the engine was towed while not in neutral or overspeed somehow. These engines are gold for us, timing covers almost always leak at 40-60k miles. Timing chains almost always stretched at 60-100k miles. If ignored they typically turn into to timing correlation codes but rough running but not mechanical failure. I think a lot of these get tossed once they through timing codes since you need to drop the engine out of the time just to remove the timing cover.

    • @peterhoma6385
      @peterhoma6385 2 роки тому

      Tacomas 3.5L timing chain is like 3X bigger than the Colorados and is a 6 bolt main very robust motor

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 роки тому

      RANDOMNATION
      2 hours ago
      Engine was revved to the nines, computer starting trying to limit the rpm, causing the engine to shutter and the trigger wheel spun free. Variable Valve Timing didn't know what to do and jammed the valve timing to full retard. That's a no-no at high rpm. Valve meets piston BOOM ! 💥

    • @retro_88yota
      @retro_88yota 2 роки тому

      the spin on filter tells me is a transverse mounted engine so acadia/traverse or possibly impala engine.

  • @SvdSinner
    @SvdSinner 2 роки тому +5

    Awesome timing! I spent today working on getting a bad 3.6L out of a Cadillac CTS, and am planning on doing a tear-down to see why it was running like garbage. (My guess is a bad bearing somewhere generating a bunch of friction.) One thing of note: This is definitely NOT an LLT. The LLT (which I'm working on) is direct-injected and has fuel rails and injectors between the heads which this engine definitely does not have. I'm guessing it is an LY6, but I could be wrong.

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  2 роки тому +7

      It’s an LLT, missing the injectors and rails. You can see the additional cam lobe for driving the HPFP.
      An LY6 is an iron 6.0 gen4, 07-14 2500/3500 truck or van engine.
      Hope the rest of that job goes smooth!

    • @aboodmki3
      @aboodmki3 2 роки тому +3

      The MPI version of the GMHFV6 is called LY7 not LY6

    • @SvdSinner
      @SvdSinner 2 роки тому

      @@I_Do_Cars The sponge thing between the heads on my LLT has a big bulge on top above the fuel pressure sensor. Admittedly, my LLT is RWD and has several differences with its transverse mounted breatheren.

    • @SvdSinner
      @SvdSinner 2 роки тому +1

      @@I_Do_Cars Flipping through the service manual, the other two variants are the LP1 and the LY7.

    • @adamtparker6515
      @adamtparker6515 Рік тому

      Simple slip of a chain cog cause all this or a PCM that told the motor 'I quit!'? Buick LaCrosses labeled these babies as 'Variable Valve Timing' instead of LLT, Alloytech, etc. Buick was smart as it told buyers 'do not select this motor'

  • @notbobthebuilder3109
    @notbobthebuilder3109 2 роки тому +4

    The sledgehammer part made me laugh so hard. Thanks for the great content as always 😂

  • @edrannou3914
    @edrannou3914 2 роки тому +7

    I'm 68 years old. Never saw a valve cover with a toupee before.

  • @mholdner
    @mholdner 2 роки тому +2

    "You need those in the right spot, otherwise it doesn't work" - words to live by as far as engine assembly goes.

  • @reidthompson8979
    @reidthompson8979 2 роки тому +3

    I’d like to put in my vote to see a Honda B20 teardown! Found in the ‘97-‘01 CR-V, the ‘97-‘98 having the 126hp B20B4 and the ‘99-‘01 having the 147hp B20Z2. I just replaced the heat gasket on my ‘99 5 speed manual CR-V, and I want to see more!!

    • @hdrenginedevelopment7507
      @hdrenginedevelopment7507 2 роки тому +1

      Those tend to burn exhaust valves if the lash isn't checked regularly, as the exhaust valves are prone to receding into the head, so may be easy to find a core. The manual says "adjust if noisy" as the service interval, but they are more akin to small children...some noise=good, no noise=bad.

  • @chuckcts-v3460
    @chuckcts-v3460 Рік тому

    Had a new 2011 Cadillac CTS, all wheel drive. Changed the oil every 5-6000 miles, used Mobil 1. Sold it just over 80,000 miles, only thing was replaced the water pump. I agree with other comments, do not pay attention to the oi life monitor, on any car. Varnish on inside of the this engine shows poor maintenance. I think people do not use a good synthetic oil because of price, after they buy these 3.6 powered cars used. Also, feel that is what causes the issues with valve springs on AFM V8's in Suburbans and Escalades. Going to put Range devices on my daughters 2018, Subruban and Escalade, 6.2 to deactivate the AFM/V4 cycle. One daughter had 2012 Suburban 5.3 with 125,000 miles, did 5-6000 oil changes, used Mobil, never had any issues with valve springs AFM. But it did use oil, at least 1 qt between oil changes sometimes 2 qts.

  • @Tutankhamun1333
    @Tutankhamun1333 2 роки тому +3

    My Australian commodore from late 2004 has this exact same engine that has nearly 218k Kilometers/ 135458 Miles and it runs extremely well for its age.

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 Рік тому

      Not the exact same engine. Yours would be an LE0 or LY7. This engine he pulled down was a direct injected LLT - Holden called them the SIDI = Spark Ignition Direct Injection. And they didn't come out in Australia until around 2009

  • @stlchevy95
    @stlchevy95 2 роки тому +1

    those slow mo replays of things going wrong cracks me up

  • @tormentfromhell73
    @tormentfromhell73 2 роки тому +1

    Just saw GM 3.6 and immediately clicked on it, I've been waiting for one of these videos as I own a lacrosse with this engine. Have owned it since 2016 and the engine is the only part I haven't had issues with lol.

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 7 місяців тому

      By 2016 everything was corrected on these engines and they'll easily go over 200K .....

    • @tormentfromhell73
      @tormentfromhell73 7 місяців тому

      ​​​@@barrya.6212mine is a 2011. I bought it in 2016. It has 114k at the moment and the engine is the only thing that hasn't broken, save for a water pump 4 years ago. No biggie. The emergency brake motor plus module, was $1,800 alone. Plus a flex plate because there was a chewed spot that happened to line up with my starter one day and wouldn't engage to start. If i had known, i could've just put in neutral and rolled forward until the bad spot was past the starter. But had it towed and $2,400 later.... New flexplate. Rear brake noise that ended in me replacing rotors, calipers, hoses. The noise was still there. It was 100% rotor noise and wouldn't go away until both rear wheel bearings were replaced. Both bearings were good. We think the surface was out of round and that caused the intermittent rotor noise, even though new rotors were on. I think someone passed away in this car and haunts it. If i stop my engine to get gas, it does very weird things. Then it's 100% perfect until i get gas again. So i leave it running and no issues. One time the ignition lock cylinder got stuck in start mode after getting gas. It's NEVER done that before or since. When you let the key go it should pop back and it didn't. Weird thing to happen just from getting gas. Sometimes it won't start, or makes a weird noise when starting. I start this car at least 20 times a week and it has never happened until i stop to get gas. And it's consistent. Every time i stop for fuel it's something messed up that has nothing to do with gas.

  • @StrategyJoe
    @StrategyJoe 2 роки тому +2

    I bought an Enclave with this engine. It shutoff at a red light and never turned on after 90 miles and 3 days. The dealer could not repair it. I was so glad the transaction was cancelled.

  • @ToddAdams1234
    @ToddAdams1234 2 роки тому +1

    Always but ALWAYS, take the LOWER bolts-nuts off FIRST! It MAY save you some grief-bodily harm if you don’t. Please do what I’m telling you. I don’t want you to get hurt. I only say this because I like/love your UA-cam channel! I learned that trick VERY long ago from my father and it’s been very helpful for saving me from some true grief/pain and healing.

    • @chrisstromberg6527
      @chrisstromberg6527 Рік тому +1

      Can you elaborate on which lower bolts nuts you are talking about?

  • @HumbleMechanic
    @HumbleMechanic 2 роки тому +1

    You are killing it dude! KEEP IT UP!!!

  • @caseymuzio7609
    @caseymuzio7609 2 роки тому +6

    You should cut out a window in the safety tote and cover it with screen door material so you can see life flash before your eyes

  • @razghost2
    @razghost2 2 роки тому +1

    Eric in last video: I'm not calling my guys messy
    Also Eric - sends chain guides flying all over the shop

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine the incridible racket noise that engine made before locking up - driver ignored a h#ll of a lot of noise before it locked up. And what a great engine to run long enough to get the jacked up

  • @machinesofgod
    @machinesofgod 2 роки тому +2

    Another t-shirt merchandise idea... Saturday Night Carnage 😅

  • @huntersieling8011
    @huntersieling8011 2 роки тому +5

    I guarantee you Eric has the best bolt bin you'll ever see.

    • @SixSixtiSix
      @SixSixtiSix 2 роки тому +2

      Don't joke about having the best bolt. That's why Women hate mechanics. All mechanics do is screw, nut, and bolt.

  • @robinlefthandbull5260
    @robinlefthandbull5260 Рік тому +1

    I had bought a police interceptor 3.6L impala with 336,000 miles on it and it still ran smoothly

  • @PinkFloydFreak55
    @PinkFloydFreak55 2 роки тому +2

    Ahhhhhh I have one of these in my Impala.... wish me luck

  • @joeblow5037
    @joeblow5037 2 роки тому +3

    I have the predecessor, the 4.2 straight six in my Trailblazer
    20+ years, 241K, and still going strong

    • @rossbrumby1957
      @rossbrumby1957 2 роки тому

      Holden's red motor was a scaled down variation of the chev inline six. They were known to seperate the headland off pistons for no good reason and burned exhaust valves so often we called them "fuel rods". When overheated, the fibre timing gear on the cam would disintergrate- as would the one on the bottom of the distributor. Oh, and they'd throw harmonic balancers every now and then.

    • @michaelgrear1979
      @michaelgrear1979 2 роки тому +1

      My trailblazer has a 190 thousand miles and still going strong my 2015 Buick lacrosse with the 3.6 motor got a 135k on it and it's still going strong but i change that oil every 3 thousand miles

  • @JadXtreme
    @JadXtreme 2 роки тому +2

    Been wanting to see this one for a while. Thanks!

  • @jamesmcdonald2680
    @jamesmcdonald2680 2 роки тому +5

    When your spark plug sounds like a duck call...

    • @henryD9363
      @henryD9363 2 роки тому +1

      I thought it was artificial fart sounds

  • @captgraybush2890
    @captgraybush2890 2 роки тому +1

    The issue with these engines is the timing chains and guides. Its almost as bad as the short lived 4.2ltr in line six. If I remember right, the gm tech manual calls for chain and guide inspection and replacement at 75,000.😬 It's around 3k to have the chains and guides changed. And you are supposed to change the heads and cam phasers. But when we got one in the shop with the change engine code (cam, crank, correlation). We just quoted the customer for a j.y.e engine. Or showed the the price on a Jasper remmanned unit. Those motors are trash and gm puts them in everything.

    • @adamtparker6515
      @adamtparker6515 Рік тому

      Up until about 10yrs ago the old addage 'timing chains are forever' went by the wayside. With really no 'discernible' power/mileage improvement over the 3800 (increase in the 3.6 HP is around 6000 rpm which is risky for any FWD cruiser/non racing model) heck why not go for 6V per cylinder😅. BTW in 'well controlled and cruise set in non speed limited areas (rare) in triple digits RPM barely above 3500.

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 2 роки тому +4

    I had a 3.6 in my Cadillac CTS and it blew up. Valve spring broke and dropped a valve into a cylinder, and that was that.
    SAME FAILURE AS YOU FIND IN THIS ENGINE IN THIS VIDEO. And here I was thinking that it was a one in a billion failure. I guess it's a lot more common than I thought!

    • @aboodmki3
      @aboodmki3 2 роки тому

      What caused the valve spring to be broken?

    • @Turboy65
      @Turboy65 2 роки тому +1

      @@aboodmki3 I'm going to speculate a manufacturing defect. Improperly heat treated steel, stress, metal fatigue, maybe the wrong alloy, something I'll never be able to prove.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 роки тому

      @@aboodmki3 - poor material AND over-revving. Considering the carnage that occurred, I'd say this happened in the middle of a burnout.

    • @Turboy65
      @Turboy65 2 роки тому

      @@johncoops6897 In my case, it happened at about 1200 to 1500 RPM in drive, doing maybe 30 MPH.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 роки тому

      @@Turboy65 - yeah, but the spring could have broken earlier. Some others said that there was misfiring or fault codes from the cylinder beforehand.

  • @jeffrugee9161
    @jeffrugee9161 22 дні тому

    You're always so excited about timing chains, called a few of them exquisite! What's the deal? I like chains as much as the next guy but you LOVE chains. What do you do with them?

  • @xsichi
    @xsichi Рік тому +1

    Maybe we could see a L67 engine Or a L36 Pretty much any 3800 it was one of the best gm v6s thanks love the show keep up great work

  • @shanehurenkamp50
    @shanehurenkamp50 2 роки тому +2

    We used to build these GM 3.6L HFV6 in Australia when Holden was building cars still in Australia. These engines have been nothing but trouble from the beginning. Early versions had timing chain issues which was later fixed with different chains. These engines were fitted to out locally built Commodores. They are a horrible engine and if the oil isn't changed regularly with 5 - 30W they gum up the small oil gallerys and shit themselves. The previous V6 which was the Buick 3.8L V6 they called the Ecotec V6 was so much more reliable.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 роки тому

      I've always thought that the late models were a derivative of the old Mang 3.8's. My last company-cars were a VP then a VS. When I went back there a few years later I took a BF XR6, as it was a much nicer car than the Commodores (no V8's at my employment level).

  • @BlckSnShyn
    @BlckSnShyn 2 місяці тому

    The last cylinder took that spark plug to pound town!

  • @johnperkins7179
    @johnperkins7179 2 роки тому +1

    I for one look forward to the dipstick battle.

  • @rossbrumby1957
    @rossbrumby1957 2 роки тому

    I'd say the piston seperated, snapping valve heads off, then the valve spring got in the way of the rocker and cam, breaking the valve spring. I've seen loads of dropped valves from bad collets or broken springs that absolutely minced the inside of the head and top of the piston but never dismembered the piston or broke a conrod. I have seen plenty of gm pistons detatch the top of the piston, doing varying amounts of damage ranging from needing a fresh hone and new piston, to block, crank and head write-offs all in one. When I say gm, i specifically mean Holden red motor inline 6 (Australia) which is a scaled down version of the chev inline 6 of the 70s. Holden sixes were so known for burning exhaust valves we called them "fuel rods".

  • @flyguy437
    @flyguy437 2 роки тому

    As always, my favorite part is when your high Micky Mouse voice says, "ooooooh," or "owwww." You have great humor!

  • @willgallatin2802
    @willgallatin2802 2 роки тому +1

    My bet is dropped the valve leaving a stop light. Yea there was some malice in the palace, but not enough to be drag racing most likely.

  • @troyrosenbaugh9935
    @troyrosenbaugh9935 2 роки тому +1

    I bet that was a horrendous boom when it went. Awesome, for us!!!

  • @LolPepperGate
    @LolPepperGate 2 роки тому

    I hella laughed out loud at -cut scene in- AHHH AHHH AHHHYYYYHHH AHHH with the BFH sledge 🤣🤣😂😂😂 lmfao.
    Another great video Eric. Thanks.

  • @MusikMan8675309
    @MusikMan8675309 2 роки тому +1

    Favorite part of my Saturday!

  • @HDHeritageSoftail
    @HDHeritageSoftail 2 роки тому +1

    21:56 Trigger wheel on this engines known to slip by itself, even with no extra force applyed. Its holding by just a press-fit, no pins or anything . That happpend with mine.

  • @dweezy26
    @dweezy26 11 місяців тому

    Ha, I did the exact same thing with the last timing cover bolt. I thought, "Is that important?"

  • @veil67
    @veil67 2 роки тому +1

    am very proud of this dip stick ! a little challenge doesn’t hurt 😂

  • @Duken4evr29
    @Duken4evr29 2 роки тому

    The hammer the vice grips maneuver to remove the dipstick. Always a favorite.

  • @franciscandie8570
    @franciscandie8570 2 роки тому

    If you're bad this year, Santa is gonna leave you a dipstick tube!

  • @jrhalabamacustoms5673
    @jrhalabamacustoms5673 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, you got the limited edition singing spark plug version of this motor!

  • @johnmac4769
    @johnmac4769 2 роки тому +1

    Had a failure on my CTS 3.6. It was not the timing chain but a broken valve spring. It dropped a valve and it made a hole in the side of the engine. We were doing 70mph on the interstate. There was no warnings. Milage was 51k.

  • @jaredbawden6707
    @jaredbawden6707 2 роки тому

    I've become a regular viewer of late, this is easily the most entertaining and interesting installment I've seen thus far. One thing though, as funny as the plastic tub "safety shield" is, perhaps a proper face shield would be a good investment? They're a lot cheaper than a new eye.

  • @Chippy569
    @Chippy569 2 роки тому +5

    I'm not a GM tech, but my used car department was selling those Acadias as fast as they could, and I gotta say.... F%#^ doing oil changes on these things. Worst filter location in the history of filter locations. Not sad at all to see this one gone boom.

    • @abpsd73
      @abpsd73 2 роки тому +1

      A buddy of mine is doing timing chains on an Acadia right now. I know what you mean about the filter location, especially when some 200lb gorilla installed it and you're struggling to remove it.

    • @PlayinWithMahWii
      @PlayinWithMahWii 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah real pain in the ass filter location. Angled downwards and slightly sideways too. Can't just spin it on facing straight towards the block. Was definitely one of my least favorite oil changes when I was a quick lube tech. Burned myself plenty of times before I got the touch.

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham 2 роки тому

      Subaru oil filter is literally inches away from the scorching hot exhaust, call it the Ring of Fire

    • @Chippy569
      @Chippy569 2 роки тому +1

      @@Cynsham see now I am a subaru tech, and the EJ filter doesn't even kind of bug me. (Though I suppose I do have tools tailored specifically to dealing with it.)

  • @jasonstender3102
    @jasonstender3102 2 роки тому

    10:11 you said cam the crack caps lmao. Had to replay it a few times to make sure I wasn't going more delusional than I already am.

  • @stephengreen3566
    @stephengreen3566 2 роки тому +1

    "Cam the crack caps loose"! I love it.

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 2 роки тому +3

    So now I know how GM CYLINDER deactivation works exactly. I would imagine with a vee four, fuel economy is greatly improved. All i can think when i saw this engine come apart was GNR LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HELL.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 роки тому

      Hang on... is it still called a V4 when there is 3 on one side and 1 on the other? Is there any imbalance problems after the deactivation?

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 роки тому +1

      @@johncoops6897 Maybe the counter balance shaft and weights will smooth out any rough spots...let us pray 🙏

  • @raybates3119
    @raybates3119 2 роки тому +1

    They should build entire engines from wrist pins! 😂

  • @ChrisLincolnHomes
    @ChrisLincolnHomes Рік тому +1

    I'm at 163K miles on my 3.0V6 and I'm hoping it doesn't end up like that one. I've done fairly regular oil changes since new with Mobil 1, Amsoil and Pennzoil Platinum. If it can get me through July I'll be happy.

    • @shawnsokol3546
      @shawnsokol3546 11 місяців тому +1

      163 K is pretty good., all the comments are guys that dont take care of their cars like you do and blame the car .

    • @ChrisLincolnHomes
      @ChrisLincolnHomes 11 місяців тому

      @@shawnsokol3546 171k mow

  • @mikenite69
    @mikenite69 2 роки тому +1

    I wait for the Saturday uploads im addicted.

  • @drewmurray2583
    @drewmurray2583 2 роки тому

    You heard correct! I nibble on piston mcnuggets while having beers with my friends.

  • @dannylewandowski2822
    @dannylewandowski2822 Рік тому

    Love when the spark plugs make a groaning noise when they don’t wanna come out. Like a lazy animal.

  • @Melanie16040
    @Melanie16040 2 роки тому

    That Plug... My eyes widened, my jaw dropped open... I said some, not family friendly words... Holy Hell...

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 роки тому

      In Australia we would say that it was _"As tight as a Nun's nasty"_ 😂😂
      ...
      Although, to be fair,. the poor thing was peened over inside the head like a bridge rivet.

  • @hilltonia133
    @hilltonia133 2 роки тому +1

    Changing the oil filter on these in a Traverse, Acadia, Enclave or Outlook in the middle of summer gives me PTSD. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 роки тому +2

      I just unscrew them from the top and oil drips down everywhere.

    • @DZARB
      @DZARB 2 роки тому

      Ring of Fire.

    • @stevenkerwin4041
      @stevenkerwin4041 2 роки тому

      Just thread on already!

  • @logicalguy488
    @logicalguy488 2 роки тому

    100% positive the down fall of this engine was just poor maintenance. Just amazing that in this day and age people still think their engines will run forever if you just change the oil every now and then because the oil manufacturers advertise their oil lasts a whole year or 25K miles or some BS like that.

  • @danielocarey9392
    @danielocarey9392 2 місяці тому

    What happens? The rear valve cover gasket needs to be replaced. There is a new design. The old one makes the engine not breathe right, and it consumes way too much oil. Then the engine starts stretching the chains as they run dry and hot. Other things begin to happen then.

  • @09corvettezr1
    @09corvettezr1 2 роки тому +2

    definitely a front wheel drive variant as the torque converter is from a 6T70/75

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, those are such good transmissions too 😂

  • @peacefrog0521
    @peacefrog0521 2 роки тому

    The sounds at 15:16 should be made into ringtones, would be fun to hear that sound when a text message comes in 😄

  • @hellkitty1014
    @hellkitty1014 2 роки тому +1

    LLT is NOT the LFX. That 3.6(2013-current) is pretty solid. But any "high-feature" owner, get out of it while you can!

  • @oldgadget1
    @oldgadget1 2 роки тому

    yeah, this is carnage of epic proportions.. We need more of these

  • @Dis-Emboweled
    @Dis-Emboweled 2 роки тому

    I geuss we could try... Clever editing! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 2 роки тому

    Use a bigass pipe wrench on the crank snout.
    The jaws tighten more as pressure is applied, and the jaws are sharpened & hardened to dig into steel…pipes.

  • @adey88splace
    @adey88splace 2 роки тому +1

    The Dreaded Dipstick Battle. Once again.

  • @cd9225
    @cd9225 2 роки тому +2

    it's the legendary 3.6 chevy motor!

    • @andrewcolsen
      @andrewcolsen 2 роки тому

      It’s in more than Chevrolet. Many other GM products came with these.

    • @cd9225
      @cd9225 2 роки тому

      @@andrewcolsen I was being sarcastic. I worked at a car lot washing cars and they had people bringing these back left and right. Anything with 3.6 for us was timing chain all day long.

  • @matthewmurphy8981
    @matthewmurphy8981 2 роки тому +2

    I hope your family is doing well - thanks for the effort to keep things going while you are spending really important time! +1 KL engine request (if you can find one that is dead for a decent reason...).

  • @notme8121
    @notme8121 2 роки тому +1

    That motor seemed like an absolutely perfect well maintained low mileage motor until the catastrophic event occurred. It's hard to tell what happened first.

  • @IuriSantos
    @IuriSantos 2 роки тому

    ROFL that third spark plug.

  • @TiborRoussou
    @TiborRoussou 2 роки тому

    19:53, it's not sauce, it's gravy!

  • @Lurch556
    @Lurch556 2 роки тому

    Watched the video with my 8 year old daughter. When she saw that piston #5 was gone, she said "it grew legs and walked away saying "I don't want this job anymore"".

  • @jaymichaels5187
    @jaymichaels5187 2 роки тому

    That engine looks better made than I expected.

  • @semurray1921
    @semurray1921 2 роки тому +2

    I just got rid of a impala with 175k. It was Great engine for me.

    • @DZARB
      @DZARB 2 роки тому +1

      Maintain it, drive like a human, and in a car designed for the weight to power I believe it. The problems exacerbate in the Acadia/Envlave/Traverse due to the motor being underpowered for those behemoths.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 роки тому +1

      3.6l Impalas are solid cars. Engine is peppy.

  • @pjmarkert1
    @pjmarkert1 2 роки тому +1

    Cam the crack caps loose, LOL

  • @greasee.monkey7224
    @greasee.monkey7224 2 роки тому

    My favorite line in the whole teardown, gonna "cam the crack caps loose". 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @--Zook--
    @--Zook-- 2 роки тому

    there is a dude somewhere who cant believe he sold this engine. He will now buy and try to sell more of them thinking there is a market for them. he will not be able to sell them like he thought and his kids will go hungry.

  • @maxneale6334
    @maxneale6334 2 роки тому +1

    dunno if i missed something but where did that mangled rod bearing come from? there were none missing from the rods i don’t think?

  • @jacobnaegele8470
    @jacobnaegele8470 2 роки тому

    That sparky plug was perfectly happy where it waslol

  • @icyhotmike
    @icyhotmike Рік тому

    My neighbor got a new traverse and I couldn't believe how loud the engine is.

  • @jeremylandphier692
    @jeremylandphier692 2 роки тому +2

    My mechanic is replacing one of these twice a week ! At least ! Direct injection sucks !

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 2 роки тому

      DI is GREAT when used right. Problem is General Mistake doesn't know how to use it properly.

  • @leviathan68w78
    @leviathan68w78 2 роки тому +2

    It does no good for GM to put together such a strong bottom end with four bolt mains and frictions coated pistons. Fancy bearings and all that when they cheap out on the timing chain and valve train.

  • @charlescarter6146
    @charlescarter6146 5 місяців тому

    I wonder what was it like when that thing came loose ? You know noises, smells and what ever.

  • @paulstan9828
    @paulstan9828 2 роки тому

    Wow no more pork and beans for that plug. That sounds like a scene out of the movie Blazing Saddles.

  • @haatch999
    @haatch999 2 роки тому

    10:15 "cam the crack caps"
    lol in some neighbourhoods mabye

  • @uptownsamcv
    @uptownsamcv 2 роки тому

    that stripped rear spark plug sounds familiar, I wonder if it came off a white 2011 traverse lol