High Temp Engineering Filament That's Easy To Print! (Fiberon PPS-CF)
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In this video we dive into Polymaker's Fiberon PPS-CF10 a high performance engineering filament that I've wanted to test out for some time. We go over the material and its specs, whats required to print with it, and I share my experience using this filament.
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Nice video. Very interesting material.
@@MyTechFun thanks man 🙌. Definitely a unique one.
Looking forward to see you test this one as well :)
It’s wild to me that we are now printing PPS. This is a material I’ve used for injection molded engineering parts where low CTE is needed.
Same xD
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy?
I saw this at a trade show a while back and the thing that really intrigued me which you also noted in the vid is the sound it makes when struck. It's cool stuff, so long as you don't need that part yesterday fast.
Still might be comparable turnaround time to getting the part milled (ignoring the strength difference), depending on the complexity. I'm really intrigued by its mechanical properties
@@PatrikTheDev I used to think that having a CNC would bridge the gap between FDM and resin prints, and while I'm glad I picked one up, there's a rather drastic catch to making CNC parts in that you can't or have to program around overhangs. It took me a minute to get to grips with that where you completely overlook it with printers. I'm all for alternative materials that can wear a lot of hats, though as per usual, it's a lot cheaper to iterate in PLA. 👍
Wow, that impact sound!
The Fiberon line is so wild to me... please test them all and compare :)
All of them??? Haha. I’ll see what I can do. I really want to build a tensile/impact strength tester.
5:30 - I loved hearing that Polymaker is supplying OrcaSlicer profiles. I wish more filament manufacturers did that.
Yeah, that sound really surprised me, and was awesome
Thanks for all the hard work!
I hope it helps out others 😊🙌
Functional part dream material.
Love these material videos
@@Jagjagula I really enjoy them as well 😊
Good stuff! Will definitely purchase a roll once I finish my DoomCube
Exciting filament! Now to finish my upgrades! Lol
How would this compare to PET-CF?
When dropped, it sounds like metal😲
What about fumes?
Sorry, if I missed it. But all other filaments for high temp need a carbon filter or a air vented room.
What about this filament ?
This is a really good point and while the tds/product page had no mention of it from what I recall it definitely recommended. The Plus 4 has a carbon filter and I also run a hepa in my studio. Even for more standard filaments it’s never a bad idea but for higher temp things like this I’d say it’s even more important.
I will have to get a roll of this and check it out. It seems like my K2 Plus, as well, checks all of the required boxes.
The filament is very brittle and brakes inside the feed tube near the extruder when it goes to the corner to start printing, I'm trying to figure out how to feed it directly from the top from a dry box so the filament wont brake
@@edgardeluna6572hit the accelerator and your filament won’t brake 😂
i got also PPS CF from Polymaker and i Print Daily at 30mm³/s at 310c Flow without problems on my Trident with a Rapido 1 UHF
How strange, I may have to play around with it a bit more. I used a fair bit on there first flow test and didn’t want to just burn through it all.
Try printing a bell with it.
PPS always sounds like glass, even without any fiber. I have worked on many injection molding projects with PPS, where it is often processed with 30-40% glass fibers. It is well known for being highly abrasive and causing rapid tool wear.
Can you do a video on the best klipper board currently? Maybe the best for a basic cartesian and corexy printer?
@@jacksoni349 that’s a tough one since best will depend on specific requirements for the build. Cost, size, needed peripherals, voltages etc really makes a lot of it a case by case.
You should use the same material with 40% glass filling. It sounds like a metal or glass part ^^
Do you know who carries it??
@@ModBotArmy You can´t it as a filament, this goes back to by first comment. ALl the manufaturers use CF filling because it looks cool.
We use this material with 40% glass filling, that´s why I mentioned it.
Wow if I can get a Roll I wonder if it can handle my Weed Eater Shindawa T25 isolator and other Bits like my 1978 Honda G400 to put a Adapter 28 or 30mm Round or Flat slide carb
Good day : )
Happy Sunday!
@@ModBotArmy you got me scared... It's Saturday
So it is Lmao shows you my state of mind 🤣
I enjoyed the exploration on that, I was wondering if it would print at higher flow and it certainly doesn't 😆
I was really surprised at the extreme drop off lol. I’ve never seen it shift so quickly like that. Slow and steady definitely won the race for me with this material.
@@ModBotArmy It would be nice if you could test higher flow rate in real parts. To me it looked that extrusion started to be bad as soon as the print was few millimeters high and was wondering if it could be unstable because of the vase mode or if the zero fan could cause it.
any testing done on the filametn and whether the annealing is actually required as on the product page it says it need annealing
@@8bits955 check out Scott’s video. He anneals and runs tests on it 👍
@@ModBotArmy i will defo check that out thank you
Pps keeps killing my Q1 pro hot-ends, guess I need to upgrade.
You need to post heat cure to get the full properties, otherwise the layer adhesion isn't going to be great.
Wonder how the heat chamber would have effected the volumetric flow prints
Would have been interesting to test. My hunch is it wouldn’t have been substantial but that’s a hunch at best.
I'm curious to know how will Prusa MK4S or Core one will handle such filament at 290c nozzle temp
Will this newly printed PPS-CF FilamATrix withstand a 350C hotend ?
(if it does, will reprint mine, and switch to a hi temp Revo ; Stealthburner fanboy...)
That’s a great question. I want to say yes since it won’t actually be making contact with the hotend at that temp but I’d still have some (slight) concerns about the fan shroud long term. It could be fine I just don’t want to say definitively.
Compatible with Beer.
The price though...have you seen the price of this stuff? Here in the UK it's £100 per kilo.
What's it look like sanded?
Don´t sand filled materials, don´t even print filled material if you can. Remember Asbetos ?
printing with hot benzene... what could go wrong?
Maybe 330 was too cold for faster printing? I wonder if something like 350 would let you push at least 10mm³.
That said it looks like the best engineering filament out there. Ok, we need a high temp hotend but no warping sounds amazing.
The only real drawback I see is the price. $100/kg is steep
I bought the material because at the Diagramm on the bottom of the data sheet it says that it’s not moisture sensitive…
@@JDjonny99 I would think they are referring to once printed.
I think annealing it also helps with decreasing moisture absorbtion
@@ModBotArmy thanks for the response. But on the sheet is PA6 and PA12 compounds listed as dry and wet state. After printing PA is not moisture sensitive, right?
@ "...After printing PA is not moisture sensitive, right?..." Depends on what you mean by that. PA is highly hygroscopic. Usually you need to condition the printed parts because they are far too brittle right out of the machine, just like one would do after injection molding. The material reaches it´s end characteristics after it has absorbed moisture.
We really need to work on your sponsor placement immediately following “without further ado”. It really seems like you don’t know what that phrase means 😂
I really wish they would finally go away from the cool factor of the CF filling to a better suited glass filling and make the material cheaper.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen much testing on glass vs cf of the same material. From what I remember glass filled on the nylon I remember had higher impact strength but lower tensile. I’m sure that’s not a blanket statement and might very depending on a multitude of other factors.
@@ModBotArmy "...It’s been a while since I’ve seen much testing on glass vs cf of the same material...." there isn´t much to see, it the same principle, it makes no difference.
"... From what I remember glass filled on the nylon I remember had higher impact strength but lower tensile...." That´s mostly nonsense. I believe you have seen differences but those were most likely minute probably within tolerance range.
There are 3 reasons why you use fillings in a thermoplastic.
1. Heat resistance
2. Low warpage
3. Stiffness
As you can see, I didn´t mention strength, because fillings especially in FDM 3D prints affect strength negative.
The Z bonding decreases while no other value increases due to the very short nature of the filling.
Same think with injection molded parts.
Now there are longer fibers available for injection molded parts and of course there are continues fibers but those are not used in 3D printing.
How are you going to anneal it? The E2 only goes to 110 and they recommend 125 to anneal.
have you tried Bambu PPA-CF filament yet?
@@TheFishTankChannel I just took a look at it and it’s not one I’ve tested. If there’s enough interest I can reach out and see if they have interest in supplying a roll for testing.
IS 320C' enough (Kobra s1) @@ModBotArmy
$150/kg, ill stick to ABS-GF.
Polymaker provides OrcaSlicer profiles for the Bambu… lol that already isn’t aging well. Fing Bambu commies….