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I love the ongoing joke: Any Other Floor Guardian: “I apologize Ainz-sama I have failed.” Demiurge: “Which plays right into Lord Ainz’ plans!” Other Floor Guardians: “It does!?” Ainz, thinking: “Plans? What plans? This is the first I’ve heard of any plans!”
Anytime him and Demiurge are talking I feel that this fits it very well. Ainz has simple plans, everyone around him, "No his plans are so complex and ingenious that we could never hope to match it." And this extends to people outside of just those of Nazarick, everyone assumes he is an all powerful and omnipotent being. Meanwhile Ainz "I've no idea what's going on or why, I'm just gonna downplay it and try to look badass. Even though I never made any of these plans."
@@rikukunリク IT might be because of how it might spark the cancel culture against the anime if they show it. Im hoping they talk more or show a glimpse of each farm next season. But that might be another 2-3 years of wait....
@@zaqwesd4725 Same, its sad that most of the substitles for the last season kinda ruined the story and it might be a bit confusing for a lot of people when the movie comes out.
Just for some context..when Demiurges tell Ainz about the "sheeps" he meant "Humans". Yeah...Demiurges is skinning living humans and healing them again so they can have a infinite amount of scrolls for Nazarick, he tought that Ainz catched his "Sheep" joke since the supreme one have a unfathomable intelect and understood what he meant without the need of explain. Human skin can actually be used to produce scrolls that match Tier 2 Spells.
@@camperty9010 I'm kinda hoping that a number of missed things, like Demiurge's happy farm will be covered and have a flashback of when the Overlord Movie for the Holy Kingdom Arc comes out. Even if they decide to go through it a bit quickly.
Fun fact: Victim actually just speaks gibberish, yet people can just understand him somehow. In the LN, translators just had Victim speaking in reversed memes. Like in his introduction, it read: "Uoy tresed dna dnuora nur annog reven ,nwod uoy tel annog reven ,pu uoy evig annog reven" [How do you do, I am Victim.]
Just to add some spice to the scene. In the LN Cocytus was LITERALLY shiting himself when talking to Ainz. He was so scared that his defeat was such a disgrace to the name of Ainz Ooal Gown that he wouldnt mind taking his life right there, his only fear was that he would die as a Failure.
Hi friends, I'm glad you're reacting to this, one of my favorite episodes. As always, I will try to clarify some things about what happens, based on information from the light novel. In this chapter we are introduced to Victim, one of the 2 guardians that we still did not know. Physically speaking he is the weakest guardian of all, however, upon death he unleashes an unknown power that once stopped an invasion of 1,500 players when Ygdrassil was a game. Surely this happened in conjunction with other forces, but so far, the eighth floor that Victim defends is considered the most powerful barrier in the Great Tomb of Nazarick. In Nazarick there are two types of NPCs, custom ones and "automatic" ones. The first type need money from Ygdrassill to revive upon death, while the automatic ones simply respawn after a while and are naturally much weaker than the custom ones. Ainz reveals to us that, except for the lich he created, all the dead that Cocytus received as his army were actually these automatic NPCs, so losing them does not represent a real loss, because from the beginning they were cannon fodder. Now let's talk a little about Demiurge. His creator, Ulbert, was a player who loved to play the Villain Role. Of course, wasn’t serious and he was only doing it because they were in a Video Game and no one would really get hurt in the real world. He simply enjoyed the more "romantic" aspects of villainy. In that sense he designed Demiurge to be a kind of "evil mastermind" in his role as NPC. But the problem is that he has now become a real being. Demiurge is a being with karma (-500), which means “Extremely Evil”. While characters like Aura or Mare (-100) see living beings outside of Nazarick as unimportant entities, almost stones in the road, Demiurge enjoys the suffering of others (when it is not the inhabitants of Nazarick). And although he is absolutely loyal to Ainz, Demiurge will always try to do as much damage as possible to the people outside, without going outside of his mission parameters. So, when he talks about "Two-Legged Sheep" he is not really referring to an animal, but to human beings that he has captured in the Holy Oak Kingdom and keeps them in his workshop on the Abelion Hills. Demiurge is assigned the mission of finding a way to produce magical scrolls and for that he is skinning people to obtain the necessary material. The scrolls that Cocytus and Entoma used in the previous chapter were made from this human skin. Naturally, since Demiurge thinks of Ainz as a true god, he assumes that Aijnz already knows everything he is doing. That's why he makes a joke of calling those poor people "Abelion Sheep" and assumes that Ainz understands... ¡But Ainz doesn't know anything! He actually believes that Demiurge has captured a rare breed of bipedal sheep. Something similar happens during his conversation with Cocytus. He tells to Ainz about "the courage of warriors" that he found among the lizardmen. But Ainz has no idea what he's talking about, because in his world he was just a simple office worker and doesn't understand things like warrior honor. However, all the NPCs believe that Ainz's every gesture is part of a greater grand conspiracy and they rationalize everything he does or says so that it seems like part of their plan for world domination. Now, it must be made clear that Ainz really planned for Cocytus to learn from this fight with the lizardmen... but everything else was purely coincidental. I also want to clarify something that many viewers missed: When Ainz decides not to "rule the lizardmen by fear", he is referring to what will happen AFTER he conquers them. But first they have to make them submit to their authority and the best way to do that is by making a display of power. The stone giant who throws a huge boulder into the center of the lake is the last floor guardian of Nazarick, Gargantua. Unlike the other Guardians, he is not a custom NPC but a Golem that the Ainz Own Goal guild earned during an event and needs to be turned on for it to work. But despite this they have him taking care of the lake on the 4th floor. The spell that Ainz uses to freeze the lake is Super Tier Magic Creation, which modifies the terrain itself. The real reason Ainz used it was to test his range and also to confirm that there were no players hiding around, because in the game everyone always attacked the one trying to cast super tier magic first. I take this opportunity to clarify that the luminous invocation circle for Super Tier Magic is the same regardless of the spell that is going to be used, because it is not something exclusive to Ainz, but in theory any player who exceeds level 71 can use it, although some of they demand that the player sacrifice some of their levels. (something Ainz doesn't want to do for any reason because he doesn't know how to get them back in the new world, so he's very selective with them). Super Level Magic always takes a long time to cast and the player can't defend himself, so his party should protect him at that time because any enemy attack will interrupt the cast. Hence, it serves as bait for Ainz to attract a potential player to attack him. It may not be understood in some parts of the West where Christian influence generally calls for leaders to be as humble as possible, but in general for many Eastern cultures (including Japan) a truly powerful ruler has a duty to flaunt a lot and display his power in an exaggerated way or it will not be taken seriously, to the point of pretending to be a true living deity. That's why AInz resorts to using his elite Nazarick army as a ladder, and boy does it work. Finally, he would have to mention Demiurge's ability, Command Mantra. It is a passive ability that empowers his voice and allows him to command any being below level 40. It could be said to be an extremely effective ability for hijacking lower status entities. Well that's all my friend. Sorry for the delay, but things happened to me. I hope that with this podium you have clarified some doubts about the chapter. See you two.
when it was still in the game of YGGDRASIL, aniz guild fought a guild war which human guilds joined together to fight Aniz guild. the enemies suceeded to break through to eighth floor. When the viticm died and exploded, it was so powerful that it wiped out the entire enemy guild
@@piotrbrys8008 Ye its like 100% centainty that they are level 100 cus its easy to level in the game and there is a system where they can go back to level 1 and level up again while gaining some bonuses. Plus most of the top players are pay to win so even if most players are level 100, the real factor that makes a difference is the items and bonus stats they have.
@@throndaxlostsoul4969 Aka the time put in the game PLUS the ressources... Just like his Guild that had both the #1 pvp player and few overlaping roles, the guild was small but optimized to accomodate the roles within. Overlord has so much potential for a more serious story and by that I mean less fanservice and more Lord of the Rings type serious. OG starwars... I've read all of the available volumes 2 and more without considering the new one that got translated... I would love to ask the reasons for making "momonga incompetent" While the story clearly requires competence in his shoes and might be openly interpreted as "plot armor"
@@gotskilsudont2149 Well, they didn't actually make him incompetent, but i understand it can be seen that way when they've stripped the show of a VAST MAJORITY of Ainz inner monolouges and thoughts on a wide range of matters. This is what happens when a story this intricate and detailed only gets 12-13 episodes per season.. This also builds into the fanservice issue as it feels like its alot more of it due to time constraints then it actually was in the novels.
@@gotskilsudont2149 Yes, i see what you mean. But the LN is mostly world building and the anime didn't or cannot do it full justice as things were rushed over to have atleast 1 or 2 fight scene in a season. Momonga was a guild leader cus he didn't take sides when making decisions, instead he analyses things and tries to make the best decision. So he is not the main powerhouse of the guild and he's build is not fully optimised for direct combat. Plus his cautious nature is what kinda prevents a full on attack mode. Momonga's main role in a guild war/pvp was strategising so he's not really used to planning for other things like managing a city. The anime kinda played it off as a joke but when a "red someone" (kinda spoilery for the reactors) protected a town, Ainz truly suspected that he would appear in that area since he's been trying to get in contact with him to see the red guys potential as Momon and that city was close to where the red guy operates.
Victim the floating fetus is the lowest level floor guardian and upon its death applies multiple and heavy defuffs against enemies. Pretty cool we got to see more floor guardians.
Another thing that Victim does is activate the "Wish" component of his skill when he dies. It revives all the guardians other than him and sends the intruders back to the entrance, THEN the buffs and debuffs are applied.
@@throndaxlostsoul4969 A lesson learned, really. Back in YGDRASSIL days, the Tomb and the Guild was nearly overrun by a force of 1500 raiding PCs. The fact that they survived that raid is a testament to Momonga’s tactical mindset.
Sense of Justice dictates whether a character from yggdrasil is good or evil. The scale is -500 to 500 There are 3 characters we know of in the tomb of nazarick who aren't evil, those are Cocytus (SOJ = 50), Yuri Alpha (SOJ = 150), and Sebas (SOJ = 300). Ainz has -500 for reference
YOU GUYS: Discussion video is linked in the description. But here it is again anyway. ua-cam.com/video/kUJNexZY8Aw/v-deo.html
ALSO: We're on Overlord Season 3 Episode 9. You can catch up with us here: www.patreon.com/brothersyeo
I love the ongoing joke:
Any Other Floor Guardian: “I apologize Ainz-sama I have failed.”
Demiurge: “Which plays right into Lord Ainz’ plans!”
Other Floor Guardians: “It does!?”
Ainz, thinking: “Plans? What plans? This is the first I’ve heard of any plans!”
Welll you see, Ainz-sama has planned 10000 years ahead of time
@@throndaxlostsoul4969 Not yet brother, not yet.
Anytime him and Demiurge are talking I feel that this fits it very well. Ainz has simple plans, everyone around him, "No his plans are so complex and ingenious that we could never hope to match it." And this extends to people outside of just those of Nazarick, everyone assumes he is an all powerful and omnipotent being. Meanwhile Ainz "I've no idea what's going on or why, I'm just gonna downplay it and try to look badass. Even though I never made any of these plans."
Demiurge's happy farm
I wonder why they don't mention it to much in the anime
@@rikukunリク IT might be because of how it might spark the cancel culture against the anime if they show it. Im hoping they talk more or show a glimpse of each farm next season. But that might be another 2-3 years of wait....
@@throndaxlostsoul4969 i hope they show more cuz they really cut many important stuff
@@rikukunリク cant wait for Holy Kingdom movie
@@zaqwesd4725 Same, its sad that most of the substitles for the last season kinda ruined the story and it might be a bit confusing for a lot of people when the movie comes out.
Just for some context..when Demiurges tell Ainz about the "sheeps" he meant "Humans". Yeah...Demiurges is skinning living humans and healing them again so they can have a infinite amount of scrolls for Nazarick, he tought that Ainz catched his "Sheep" joke since the supreme one have a unfathomable intelect and understood what he meant without the need of explain. Human skin can actually be used to produce scrolls that match Tier 2 Spells.
Lots of stuff mentioned in the light novels were skipped and I'm kinda bummed about it.
@@camperty9010 I'm kinda hoping that a number of missed things, like Demiurge's happy farm will be covered and have a flashback of when the Overlord Movie for the Holy Kingdom Arc comes out. Even if they decide to go through it a bit quickly.
@@darkrite9000 The movie that is upcoming is apparently rated 17+ so all things point to them not holding back for that one.
11:13 Fun fact, when Shalltear claps and those cloud-mouth monsters disappear, she didn't un-summon them, she literally *killed* them
Fun fact:
Victim actually just speaks gibberish, yet people can just understand him somehow.
In the LN, translators just had Victim speaking in reversed memes.
Like in his introduction, it read:
"Uoy tresed dna dnuora nur annog reven ,nwod uoy tel annog reven ,pu uoy evig annog reven" [How do you do, I am Victim.]
Victim speaks enochian, the language of angels
Damn I fell for it
Just to add some spice to the scene. In the LN Cocytus was LITERALLY shiting himself when talking to Ainz. He was so scared that his defeat was such a disgrace to the name of Ainz Ooal Gown that he wouldnt mind taking his life right there, his only fear was that he would die as a Failure.
Hi friends, I'm glad you're reacting to this, one of my favorite episodes. As always, I will try to clarify some things about what happens, based on information from the light novel.
In this chapter we are introduced to Victim, one of the 2 guardians that we still did not know. Physically speaking he is the weakest guardian of all, however, upon death he unleashes an unknown power that once stopped an invasion of 1,500 players when Ygdrassil was a game. Surely this happened in conjunction with other forces, but so far, the eighth floor that Victim defends is considered the most powerful barrier in the Great Tomb of Nazarick.
In Nazarick there are two types of NPCs, custom ones and "automatic" ones. The first type need money from Ygdrassill to revive upon death, while the automatic ones simply respawn after a while and are naturally much weaker than the custom ones. Ainz reveals to us that, except for the lich he created, all the dead that Cocytus received as his army were actually these automatic NPCs, so losing them does not represent a real loss, because from the beginning they were cannon fodder.
Now let's talk a little about Demiurge. His creator, Ulbert, was a player who loved to play the Villain Role. Of course, wasn’t serious and he was only doing it because they were in a Video Game and no one would really get hurt in the real world. He simply enjoyed the more "romantic" aspects of villainy. In that sense he designed Demiurge to be a kind of "evil mastermind" in his role as NPC.
But the problem is that he has now become a real being.
Demiurge is a being with karma (-500), which means “Extremely Evil”. While characters like Aura or Mare (-100) see living beings outside of Nazarick as unimportant entities, almost stones in the road, Demiurge enjoys the suffering of others (when it is not the inhabitants of Nazarick). And although he is absolutely loyal to Ainz, Demiurge will always try to do as much damage as possible to the people outside, without going outside of his mission parameters.
So, when he talks about "Two-Legged Sheep" he is not really referring to an animal, but to human beings that he has captured in the Holy Oak Kingdom and keeps them in his workshop on the Abelion Hills. Demiurge is assigned the mission of finding a way to produce magical scrolls and for that he is skinning people to obtain the necessary material. The scrolls that Cocytus and Entoma used in the previous chapter were made from this human skin.
Naturally, since Demiurge thinks of Ainz as a true god, he assumes that Aijnz already knows everything he is doing. That's why he makes a joke of calling those poor people "Abelion Sheep" and assumes that Ainz understands... ¡But Ainz doesn't know anything! He actually believes that Demiurge has captured a rare breed of bipedal sheep.
Something similar happens during his conversation with Cocytus. He tells to Ainz about "the courage of warriors" that he found among the lizardmen. But Ainz has no idea what he's talking about, because in his world he was just a simple office worker and doesn't understand things like warrior honor. However, all the NPCs believe that Ainz's every gesture is part of a greater grand conspiracy and they rationalize everything he does or says so that it seems like part of their plan for world domination.
Now, it must be made clear that Ainz really planned for Cocytus to learn from this fight with the lizardmen... but everything else was purely coincidental. I also want to clarify something that many viewers missed: When Ainz decides not to "rule the lizardmen by fear", he is referring to what will happen AFTER he conquers them. But first they have to make them submit to their authority and the best way to do that is by making a display of power.
The stone giant who throws a huge boulder into the center of the lake is the last floor guardian of Nazarick, Gargantua. Unlike the other Guardians, he is not a custom NPC but a Golem that the Ainz Own Goal guild earned during an event and needs to be turned on for it to work. But despite this they have him taking care of the lake on the 4th floor.
The spell that Ainz uses to freeze the lake is Super Tier Magic Creation, which modifies the terrain itself. The real reason Ainz used it was to test his range and also to confirm that there were no players hiding around, because in the game everyone always attacked the one trying to cast super tier magic first. I take this opportunity to clarify that the luminous invocation circle for Super Tier Magic is the same regardless of the spell that is going to be used, because it is not something exclusive to Ainz, but in theory any player who exceeds level 71 can use it, although some of they demand that the player sacrifice some of their levels. (something Ainz doesn't want to do for any reason because he doesn't know how to get them back in the new world, so he's very selective with them).
Super Level Magic always takes a long time to cast and the player can't defend himself, so his party should protect him at that time because any enemy attack will interrupt the cast. Hence, it serves as bait for Ainz to attract a potential player to attack him.
It may not be understood in some parts of the West where Christian influence generally calls for leaders to be as humble as possible, but in general for many Eastern cultures (including Japan) a truly powerful ruler has a duty to flaunt a lot and display his power in an exaggerated way or it will not be taken seriously, to the point of pretending to be a true living deity. That's why AInz resorts to using his elite Nazarick army as a ladder, and boy does it work.
Finally, he would have to mention Demiurge's ability, Command Mantra. It is a passive ability that empowers his voice and allows him to command any being below level 40. It could be said to be an extremely effective ability for hijacking lower status entities.
Well that's all my friend. Sorry for the delay, but things happened to me. I hope that with this podium you have clarified some doubts about the chapter.
See you two.
when it was still in the game of YGGDRASIL, aniz guild fought a guild war which human guilds joined together to fight Aniz guild. the enemies suceeded to break through to eighth floor. When the viticm died and exploded, it was so powerful that it wiped out the entire enemy guild
And we can assume all the enemy guilds were at least lvl 100, which is much stronger than anything in the new world
@@piotrbrys8008 Ye its like 100% centainty that they are level 100 cus its easy to level in the game and there is a system where they can go back to level 1 and level up again while gaining some bonuses. Plus most of the top players are pay to win so even if most players are level 100, the real factor that makes a difference is the items and bonus stats they have.
@@throndaxlostsoul4969 Aka the time put in the game PLUS the ressources... Just like his Guild that had both the #1 pvp player and few overlaping roles, the guild was small but optimized to accomodate the roles within. Overlord has so much potential for a more serious story and by that I mean less fanservice and more Lord of the Rings type serious. OG starwars... I've read all of the available volumes 2 and more without considering the new one that got translated... I would love to ask the reasons for making "momonga incompetent" While the story clearly requires competence in his shoes and might be openly interpreted as "plot armor"
@@gotskilsudont2149 Well, they didn't actually make him incompetent, but i understand it can be seen that way when they've stripped the show of a VAST MAJORITY of Ainz inner monolouges and thoughts on a wide range of matters.
This is what happens when a story this intricate and detailed only gets 12-13 episodes per season..
This also builds into the fanservice issue as it feels like its alot more of it due to time constraints then it actually was in the novels.
@@gotskilsudont2149 Yes, i see what you mean. But the LN is mostly world building and the anime didn't or cannot do it full justice as things were rushed over to have atleast 1 or 2 fight scene in a season.
Momonga was a guild leader cus he didn't take sides when making decisions, instead he analyses things and tries to make the best decision. So he is not the main powerhouse of the guild and he's build is not fully optimised for direct combat. Plus his cautious nature is what kinda prevents a full on attack mode.
Momonga's main role in a guild war/pvp was strategising so he's not really used to planning for other things like managing a city. The anime kinda played it off as a joke but when a "red someone" (kinda spoilery for the reactors) protected a town, Ainz truly suspected that he would appear in that area since he's been trying to get in contact with him to see the red guys potential as Momon and that city was close to where the red guy operates.
Victim the floating fetus is the lowest level floor guardian and upon its death applies multiple and heavy defuffs against enemies. Pretty cool we got to see more floor guardians.
Another thing that Victim does is activate the "Wish" component of his skill when he dies.
It revives all the guardians other than him and sends the intruders back to the entrance, THEN the buffs and debuffs are applied.
@@kerespup Actually a pretty broken defense system if you ask me
@@throndaxlostsoul4969 A lesson learned, really.
Back in YGDRASSIL days, the Tomb and the Guild was nearly overrun by a force of 1500 raiding PCs.
The fact that they survived that raid is a testament to Momonga’s tactical mindset.
@@kerespup oh wow really? That's op!
@@kerespup where was this said?
I love how Shasuryu instantly tried to surrender lmao.
Show me a more badass entrance than Ainz and fail miserably.
9:02 Imagine using what is considered to be an unbelievably powerful spell just to create a cold breeze.
The scream at the end tho 😂
when ainz decides to flex on someone he goes hard with it and all the guardians in tow :P
Victim is, other then being the lowest level guardian, also an angel
this is a rare flex and I love everything about it
umm.. those "Abelion sheeps" are actually humans..
and they are being harvested for their skins which Demiurge use to make low level spell scrolls
Sense of Justice dictates whether a character from yggdrasil is good or evil. The scale is -500 to 500
There are 3 characters we know of in the tomb of nazarick who aren't evil, those are Cocytus (SOJ = 50), Yuri Alpha (SOJ = 150), and Sebas (SOJ = 300). Ainz has -500 for reference
Gentlemen, we've officially reached peak rizzard at the end of this episode
Ainz got some rizz
@Enmu Sama' 🙏 gomen
Next Ep is for the best chair
No, they are straight up humans, or sheep or demihumans
my man calling humans a sheep.
first i thought demiurge will be the traitor among the guardians but now, yup! he's the coolest and the most brutal character in overlord.
You guys gotta finish this anime for suree
Ye and they should watch the upcoming movie when its released
lovin the reactions
i love overklord
Oh she's all over him
hey , you guys at it ?
maruyama described this arc as the gretast naked war. EVERYONE is naked here. yet another jab at shonen anime
also, sheeeeeeeeep. get it?
Noice
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