Making A Traditional Wooden Koncovka (Slovak Wooden Flute)

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • I wanted to make a musical instrument, but maybe something a bit different - and the Koncovka definitely fits that description.

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  • @NichaelCramer
    @NichaelCramer 2 роки тому +3

    Important clarification: “Beeswax and Linseed Oil are both edible.” *NOT!*
    Or to be more specific pure natural *food-grade* Linseed Oil may be safe in this context; however it is typically not used for finishing because it can take basically forever to dry.
    OTOH “Boiled Linseed Oil” -which is more commonly used for finishing purposes- is filled with heavy metals to help it dry more quickly, and is definitely *not* safe to ingest. Moreover, because the drying agents can be absorbed through the skin, it is best to avoid direct contact with BLO at all.

  • @johngelle2590
    @johngelle2590 7 років тому +27

    Glad to see that english dude likes our traditional flute. But there is a system of measurements you need to follow. Also we don't use any type of glue. Never. Try to use double sided tape to stick sandpaper to that metal rode, will help to keep sandpaper on it. Wood needs to be cut in winter time and leave it at least 2 years to dry. Koncovka should be tuned up by cutting end of flute and using any type of tuner. I normally use guitar tuner app on my smart phone. :) Can I ask where about in uk you live?

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  7 років тому +3

      Thanks for the info. Yeah, I deviated quite a long way off 'traditional' really, in terms of the build. I did take the length measurement from a site about overblown flutes somewhere, but I forget what it was.
      I'm on the south coast of England - near Southampton

    • @johngelle2590
      @johngelle2590 7 років тому +6

      I visited Southampton once, nice part of England. I am living near Kettering...bit far from you. If you interesting of how to make "koncovka" or "fujara" a proper way, I could help you with translation if you need as all informations are in Slovak language. :)

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  7 років тому +2

      Thanks - I would like to make a Fujara sometime

    • @Hipyon
      @Hipyon 3 роки тому +1

      Confirmed all my own thoughts especially winter cutting dark of the moon in January i'm now looking for a local wood for the job🌈

  • @liamboyd555
    @liamboyd555 2 роки тому +1

    Getting mixed messages from camouflage shorts but matched socks and shirt that definitely stand out 😉
    Very interesting build to watch and educational! Thanks!

  • @CurriedBat
    @CurriedBat 6 років тому +7

    Good choice to take the bark off when it's still green. Harder to remove it once it's dried.

    • @tslnox
      @tslnox 5 років тому

      The downside is that the wood will crack more during drying out, as drying with bark slows down the drying process and so it makes the wood crack less.

  • @misacraft3714
    @misacraft3714 3 роки тому +7

    Traditional Romanian koncovka is called Tilinka and traditional Hungarian koncovka is called Tilinko. And traditional Scandinavian koncovka is called Seljefloyte...

    • @centralintelligenceagency6987
      @centralintelligenceagency6987 3 роки тому

      What?

    • @misacraft3714
      @misacraft3714 Рік тому +1

      @@centralintelligenceagency6987 Koncovka is not only Slovakia traditional flute. It is historically well known in many countries…..

  • @radovanbakos880
    @radovanbakos880 6 років тому +2

    Good job,
    wood types were chosen very traditionally.
    If I can suggest:
    1) wrong drills: This drilling looks very dangerous. You need traditional "nebožiec" type of drill. It is much safer and is naturally guided by the soft center core. You can then drill bit curvy wood as well.
    2) use two-hand knife to remove bark - again, it is safer and more effective
    3) no glue is needed
    4) you can impregnate flute from inside by submerging into parafine oil

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому

      Radovan Bakos agreed. Techniques were all wrong. I don't actually think I should have been working green wood either

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому

      Yeah - I guess that's my problem - where I only wanted to make one of these, drying the wood properly for years is just too long to wait. I'm happy enough with the way it turned out, despite the unorthodox build.

  • @AOKosmata
    @AOKosmata 6 років тому +13

    like the hat and how did you find out how to make that.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому +2

      Thank you. I found the instrument just while I was researching how to make whistles and simple flutes - I specifically wanted something that doesn't require manual dexterity to play (although there is still much skill to be mastered for this regardless).
      I used very unconventional methods to hollow out the stick here (and I wouldn't really recommend them to anyone due to safety concerns) - traditionally, the stick would be hollowed by a hand-driven reamer - looks like a traditional corkscrew, but bigger and longer.

    • @qwertasdef4371
      @qwertasdef4371 5 років тому

      Great!

    • @jansima8392
      @jansima8392 3 роки тому

      @@qwertasdef4371 Vrtak špiralovity je určite vhodnejši ale použivaju sa na to nebožiece & kovany vrtak dalej odporučam namasťiť parafinovym olejom z vnutra

  • @inexses23
    @inexses23 4 місяці тому

    I always have wanted to do this but can never find a branch long and straight enough.

  • @urchincreature
    @urchincreature 6 років тому +2

    Great video! Very informative. The way the mouthpiece is constructed seems similar to the way medieval European recorder mouthpieces might have been made.

  • @ringostingo5892
    @ringostingo5892 6 років тому +7

    Please, for the love of God... Give Evie a stick!

  • @davidbloem8122
    @davidbloem8122 4 роки тому +3

    Can you update on your skills these days?

  • @BASurvival
    @BASurvival 2 роки тому

    nice work. Normally i come to your channel for the foraging and the food challenges. Today i thought i would learn how to make a wooden flute , and who should appear on top of the search MR Atomic shrimp 👍

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers 8 років тому +1

    Used to make whistles from elder when I was a kid.

  • @joelb2297
    @joelb2297 7 років тому

    I never see anyone using a Dremel or Black-&-Decker rotary tool, -these are quite useful and the various drills and routers are small enough to do just about any kind of air or sound hole you could ever need...

  • @danieels4590
    @danieels4590 2 роки тому

    I am led to believe that the elder is poisonous, but if you guys are still alive then it cannot be that bad.

  • @stanleyjaxen8759
    @stanleyjaxen8759 4 роки тому

    thanks for sharing
    the drill mount is very awesome

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  4 роки тому

      Yeah, although looking back, not especially safe. Don't try this at home!

  • @EduardRitok
    @EduardRitok 7 років тому +1

    very nice, my friend..keep going ! .. I am glad you enjoy the cultural heritage of my country! :)

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  7 років тому +1

      I love it. I just wish I had more musical talent. I'm actually fascinated by the way that the tones available by playing this instrument have shaped and formed the folk music styles of the region.

    • @EduardRitok
      @EduardRitok 7 років тому +1

      I believe that if you keep trying, you will make every piece better :) I have a passion for making native american flutes and also indian transverse bansuri ... I began since the autumn 2016 ... I really love the mood and flexibility of those instruments and culture. ..but last months , my Slovak culture started calling me too , so I am making my first Fujara now :D .the principle of Fujara is very similar to Koncovka.. it is much bigger and it has 3 holes to add some more tones into the overall register ... also, ironically, you are the one of few who inspired me to make my first koncovka , and I am gonna make it right now :D

  • @sibeliusjohannes2660
    @sibeliusjohannes2660 5 років тому +3

    Gloves and rotating machines.... not a good idea. But great informative video!

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  5 років тому

      Yeah. Point taken, it could catch. Although more dangerous on setups with more torque than this little drill.

  • @maxbrumbergflutes
    @maxbrumbergflutes 6 років тому +2

    At 0:42 in this Video (ua-cam.com/video/5b1P-C8QrZE/v-deo.html) you can see me drilling with the proper drill . The one you are using might work but the inner surface is going to be horribly rough and sanding might make it smooth but is going to make bumps so the harmonics wont come nicely...

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому

      Your link didn't seem to work for me, but I think you mean this video: ua-cam.com/video/5b1P-C8QrZE/v-deo.html
      Much respect to your skills and proper tools - you're right of course, however, I had to work with what I have

    • @maxbrumbergflutes
      @maxbrumbergflutes 6 років тому +1

      AtomicShrimp Thank you and yes of course and you did a really good job!

  • @VWTurboDieselTDI1.5_90CP
    @VWTurboDieselTDI1.5_90CP 6 років тому +2

    If you drill some holes for the fingers like flute, but only 5*holes. It becomes a romanian instrumente called caval

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому

      Crembrulee 08 15 I'd like to try that but it seems like it might be hard to get the hole size and placement exactly right

    • @VWTurboDieselTDI1.5_90CP
      @VWTurboDieselTDI1.5_90CP 6 років тому

      +AtomicShrimp yeah, it's hard to do that. But I love that instrument

    • @teoflyfishing2004
      @teoflyfishing2004 6 років тому

      @@VWTurboDieselTDI1.5_90CP I am from Romania, and i bought a caval, i am in love with the sound of it. It is very hard to make one, but not imposibble. For the caval in key of A, you need an 75 cm long tube, with 18 mm inner diameter. I can give you further information if you want!

    • @adamrugaa6623
      @adamrugaa6623 4 роки тому

      @@teoflyfishing2004 Are you able to share more details? I'm also a big fan of caval's sound and would like to make one. Thanks in advance!

  • @neilfroggycrompton2466
    @neilfroggycrompton2466 8 років тому +2

    +atomic shrimp a spokeshave would have made stripping the bark really easy,im wondering if this flute could be made from bamboo? & the internal nodes would be easy to drill out if it was soaked in water,would bamboo make it sound different?.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  8 років тому +1

      Good tip, although the bark did come off really easily as the wood was still fresh. I'm sure bamboo would work for this - I've even seen people make them from PVC pipe.

    • @maxbrumbergflutes
      @maxbrumbergflutes 7 років тому +2

      the bamboo works if you take out the internal nodes completely, the internal bore needs to be very clean, any little disturbance makes that some of the harmonics might not come.

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn 6 років тому +1

    actually the center is called the pith.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому +2

      I know. I mention that at least twice in the video

  • @damaslpressath
    @damaslpressath 2 роки тому

    hello mister....hmmmm you put waxoil outside....but it doesnt help to get a better sound :) i would not take that green wood...it should be dry at least a year...if you find a dry branch...at least 60 to 70 cm for a good sound you can poke out the stuff inside with some metalsticks easyly...you will see that some branches thick like a finger also have thicker pipecavity (?)...enough for a instrument...and it should be thick enough outside to make a good whistle hole....and i would never take epoxy....brrrrr in some cases i repair some pieces with woodglue mixed with sawdust....

  • @agoogleuser3787
    @agoogleuser3787 Рік тому

    So this is where the annoying recorder originated

  • @bushcraftpopolsku4107
    @bushcraftpopolsku4107 7 років тому +2

    Slovak and Polish ;)

  • @pauloalima1740
    @pauloalima1740 2 роки тому

    dangerous this action, caution ⚠️ to work

  • @eyeeverything342
    @eyeeverything342 7 років тому +6

    ohh, you just drill holes? thats so boring........ i couldnt resist the pun

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  7 років тому +7

      You know what job is interesting though?
      Riveting.

  • @mozillafirefox9953
    @mozillafirefox9953 3 роки тому

    I'm from Slovakia :)

  • @robabnawaz
    @robabnawaz 4 роки тому

    Very well made mouthpiece, why don't u add some holes in order to be able to perform real melodies?

    • @Charley-rz3hl
      @Charley-rz3hl 4 роки тому +2

      Because that's not how the instrument works, it's not supposed to have any holes. You play the melodies with combinations of different air pressures and opening/closing the end hole. Also he had said in a comment that he was researching flutes and was trying to find a variant that didn't require the dexterity of a normal flute, which seems to be the main reason he chose the Koncovka.

    • @robabnawaz
      @robabnawaz 4 роки тому

      @@Charley-rz3hl ok, i understand

  • @etno2010
    @etno2010 8 років тому +5

    learn more...try slovak(Slovakia - not Slovenia ) videos...

  • @hubyaprirodamariosvrcek8751
    @hubyaprirodamariosvrcek8751 6 років тому +2

    im sorry but this is very bad HTM video...you used bad tools and wrong measures

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому

      Mário Svrček it's not a HTM video, that's why. This is just a video about how I made it. I'm not recommending or suggesting this is the right way.

    • @mobi_61
      @mobi_61 6 років тому

      For koncovka is better smaller drill. I use 14, 15, 16 mm diameter. But for informations is video good.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому

      Yes - I think the correct tool is called a reamer - which would leave a much smoother surface on the inside of the bore (and the sound of the instrument would probably be brighter as a result)

  • @nedeljkomircic1554
    @nedeljkomircic1554 2 роки тому

    Izvini,al to je ravno nuli,ja sa odgledao,al sam se razocarao,ako su lajkovi bitni,lajkovacu,,,,,,pogledaj ksko se to radi po BiH...pozz.

  • @lucalentini8746
    @lucalentini8746 4 роки тому

    That's so dangerous, there are many more smart ways to make the sound chamber.
    Don't follow that method!!!!!!!!!

  • @gabelove6690
    @gabelove6690 6 років тому

    How the fuck is that a flute

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  6 років тому +3

      How isn't it a flute?

    • @danieels4590
      @danieels4590 2 роки тому +2

      It is a vertical flute. The vertical flute isn't the only type of flute. Even the recorder flute is a flute.

  • @robb4044
    @robb4044 4 роки тому +1

    That's pretty neat, and impressive. The most impressive part to me is that you drilled from both ends and made the hole meet in the middle. I think I would have had them all cock-eyed, or came out the side. Good vid.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  4 роки тому +2

      The trick here is that Elder branches have a core of soft pith that acts as a pilot hole for the drill...

  • @mariansimkovic3996
    @mariansimkovic3996 6 років тому

    fujara.didge.sk/ficim-na-dreve.html

  • @saltroad3517
    @saltroad3517 3 роки тому

    well done mate. your fascination with it drove along nicely