I think it's brave to call a record by Berliner Philharmoniker "horrible". I checked the score, because 0:09 sounded alright to me an I have to say: It has to be C# major and not minor, BUT IT IS C# MAJOR on the recording! What you might hear as an minor chord is the change from E-Major to C#-Major from first to second phrase. So please check first and comment afterwards.
That is how it is supposed to be played at 0:09. My high school orchestra is playing this right now. My directors thought it sounded funny as well but that is exactly how it is supposed to be.
0:35 why so fast the /32 as they were /64 ?? not good. instead of written /32 (and so Toscanini) Karajan and other conductors add a /32 pause, then 4 notes as /64. doing so, what the amelioraments to Verdi score? What Verdi wrote ( /32 ) was not enough good? then I agree that at 0:09 the chord sounds strange, i.e. I never heard this chord here, with all other conductors. Also Karajan is wrong because he allows the third trombone to play E instead of the written E# (ok at 0:22 ) Micha Davis is right!
+Zander Grier No, look better at the score: I have to hear c#-e# (!)-g# !!! imslp.org/wiki/Nabucco_%28Verdi,_Giuseppe%29 or are all the scores (and other conductors) wrong? E# the V in the modus F# MINOR, i.e. che VII grade of the scale is diesis. And imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/0/0e/IMSLP311738-PMLP51151-1064-Verdi-Nabucco-Ouverture-Score.pdf anyway I will write to Prof. Franco Cesarini.
Hi all, conductor here working this very tune. The chord at :09 is indeed out of tune. It happens, doesn’t make them any worse a set of musicians. But, it was out of tune by a long way.
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I think it's brave to call a record by Berliner Philharmoniker "horrible".
I checked the score, because 0:09 sounded alright to me an I have to say: It has to be C# major and not minor, BUT IT IS C# MAJOR on the recording!
What you might hear as an minor chord is the change from E-Major to C#-Major from first to second phrase.
So please check first and comment afterwards.
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That is how it is supposed to be played at 0:09. My high school orchestra is playing this right now. My directors thought it sounded funny as well but that is exactly how it is supposed to be.
?? Look at the score on imslp.org (original edition), it is E sharp! (and makes sense harmonically), I think it is just a Trombone accident
It was an error. A fine recording, but still an error.
0:35 why so fast the /32 as they were /64 ?? not good. instead of written /32 (and so Toscanini) Karajan and other conductors add a /32 pause, then 4 notes as /64. doing so, what the amelioraments to Verdi score? What Verdi wrote ( /32 ) was not enough good?
then I agree that at 0:09 the chord sounds strange, i.e. I never heard this chord here, with all other conductors. Also Karajan is wrong because he allows the third trombone to play E instead of the written E# (ok at 0:22 ) Micha Davis is right!
+Andrea Dobetti Absolutely right. Those few things ruined it, in my opinion... also the second part is way too fast.
+fbx78 actually it's not. I have seen one of the original scorings for this piece and it's astonishingly fast.
+Andrea Dobetti It's actually supposed to be a recessive minor chord, the E is correct. it is C# minor chord.
+Zander Grier No, look better at the score: I have to hear c#-e# (!)-g# !!!
imslp.org/wiki/Nabucco_%28Verdi,_Giuseppe%29
or are all the scores (and other conductors) wrong? E# the V in the modus F# MINOR, i.e. che VII grade of the scale is diesis. And imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/0/0e/IMSLP311738-PMLP51151-1064-Verdi-Nabucco-Ouverture-Score.pdf anyway I will write to Prof. Franco Cesarini.
+Zander Grier Andante is Andate in Verdi.
Hi all, conductor here working this very tune. The chord at :09 is indeed out of tune. It happens, doesn’t make them any worse a set of musicians.
But, it was out of tune by a long way.
Doesn't sound right
horrible start in the low brass.the chord in 0.09 should be a C# major not minor!!!why didn't they fix it in the recording?