Many years ago I had great respect for the police. But sadly times have changed and so has the police. It is completely obvious that if you speak out about a certain religion the odds are you will be sent to prison even if what you are saying is truthful and yet we see no arrest are made if the shoe is on the other foot. Its the same in China. Russia, and North Korea and now we are part of that regime. Its seems we are in for some very dangerous and dark times ahead.
@@georgedk1296 I’ll take that as a compliment. I served in London from 1987 to 2017….@sitrocket is right…. It all started going wrong imo when they brought in police crime commissioners and they became political tools. As a young PC I would arrest anyone who was doing wrong, didn’t matter what they looked like. No one ever called me ‘Pig’ to my face. Anyone who dared “touch the cloth” were immediately arrested for assault on Police.
what is your opinion on public auditors keeping the police transparent and accountable.?. the response from officers is very telling in sorting the wheat from the chaff in regards to incompetence and failure to follow the police code of conduct .
Yea, the row of gardens that backed onto ours and our neighbours were police houses, didn't really think about it, was just normal growing up and the parents talking to them at the bottom of the garden, (dad nervously sometimes lol)
Yes I do, but the sell off of local police resources started under the Thatcher government. Unfortunately we have had bad and rotten leadership since Jack Straw and Blunkett. Poor decision making and the lack of Policing independence from Government. As for the current leadership it's awful!
I lived in a village in North Herts as a kid. There was a village policeman. He had a normal house but had an annex with a counter and leaflets etc. He made his presence felt round the village which was welcome. He was a popular guy and gave a sense of security. Now I do not trust the police. One is lucky to get an incidence report, and I say that very much on experience.
During the short unrest in liverpool after an islamist murdered 3 innocent little girls i watched the police on the cities streets with batons and shields doing everything they could to look pathetic...i swear to god...the citizens were falling about laughing at these idiots...people were filming them in fits of hysterics.....it truly was straight out of the 'benny hill show'... what a gang of out of touch zrseholes 😂🤣😂🤣
SIMPLE, THEY ARE DELIBERATELY POLITICISED. DOESN'T THIS SMACK OF HISTORIS EXTREMIST FORCES LIKE GESTAPO, AND STASI. WHERE ARE THE POLICE ORGANISATIONS, THAT SPEAKS FOR THEIR BENEFIT AND PROTECTION ? LOST THEIR POWER'S ?
I watched a video from Birmingham where a 60+ year old man was being arrested because he had voiced displeasure at a pro-Palestine protest being staged on Remembrance day, he said he was not even aware he had been heard by anyone, he had said this was 'pissing people off' because it clashed with the spirit of the day. I was gob smacked to see this, four or five officers were tut-tutting this chap, and they led him off in handcuffs to a police van. This is not what British people expect a police man to do. This was neither justified or even fair - and they wonder why people criticize them
As Peter Hitchens has said, we need a totally new proper police force that actually polices crime, to be introduced alongside the current police service to eventually replace it. I've seen a lot of police since the Southport stabber protests but they are there to make sure the 'far right' behaves not to stop crime.
all over europe and the e.u. the far right is gaining ground,watch france and germany in the next few weeks big trouble brewing its time brits realised that only the far right will put you and your children first last and always in your own country,nobody else will least of all the anti british anti white anti christian anti european liblabcon uniparty.
Just a reminder that the first officer on the scene in Southport refused to go in until 'back up arrived'. He just stood outside whilst it was all happening, with his s--b proof vest and nightstick. The Merseyside police chief then had the audacity to go on national TV and praise the heroism of her force...
My sister and I got caught scrumping apples by the orchad owner when we were kids. We had to sit and wait for a policeman to arrive where-upon he give us a good ticking off, We were terrified! I doubt it is no coincidence that this kind of community policing ended when mass immigration began.
I found a wallet outside my house. I took it to my local Police Station but they were closed for lunch. I went back at 2pm and the front door was still locked. So I phoned. I was told to go to another station 14 miles away. I could see several cops through the window. So gestured to them. Eventually a female officer opened the front desk. Reluctantly. I explained the situation. "And what are we supposed to do about it?" she said. Maybe try to trace the owner from one of the Bank Cards with her name on it, said I. There are only 8 people with that name in our local phone book. I could have phoned each of them quicker myself.
We now find ourselves in a position where police stations no longer take in Lost Property (valuables), but the finder can't hold on to them even for a short period while they attempt to trace the owner as this amounts to Stealing By Finding.
I used to work in a police station cash office. They’re supposed to accept the wallet , take your own name and contact details, and if the owner of the wallet doesn’t come forward in 6 months, the wallet and any cash therein belong to you.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-treeExactly. I found a purse years ago it had about £4.00 in it. Took it to police station had to wait for 3 months . I went back as told to and it hadn't been claimed so they gave it to me. Those days are certainly gone.
Seem to remember a similar prick back in 1934 had a private army and culminated in "night of the Long knives". Sooner or later all dictators cull the opposition
They don't even make the effort to do the detecting. My debit card was stolen, used to buy from a large retailer. I called the retailer and they gave me the delivery address. I gave the address to the police and even offered to drive an officer to the address if they were short on transport. Not interested in the slightest in the address, or the offer. Similar thing with a stolen laptop, which I traced as using a landline number. Again police not interested in the specifics in the slightest. And both these happened a good ten years ago, and ten years apart. This apathy is not a new thing, it's been there a long, long time. It's just right in your face now.
I sent the police clear, daytime video and photos, including close ups of faces, of 2 men who were jacking cars up and stealing the catalytic converters. Not even a "thank you" from them, and no follow up. The local paper ran a story a few days later about how the police are "baffled" by a spate of catalytic converter thefts in the area, and appealed to the public for any information. The mind boggles. As far as I know, the men were never traced.
I phoned the police last year when the local Boots was being ram raided by a second generation fellow. I rang 999. "Is this an emergency?" "Well the Boots is being robbed at the moment" "Transferring you now " (2 mins later) "Thank you for calling... The Police... your call is important to us... Your call has been placed in a queue... and will be answered by the next available operator... (light orchestral music)"
@@twistedsister2568 same here. Cars outside,police inside but no access for the paying public. No police presence in our Suffolk town of 30,000+ I have zero confidence in the application of the traditional unbiased rule of law in this country . Very sad for a 71 year old law abiding citizen.
I saw a policeman in Birmingham with his mate in the middle of summer, he was about 4ft 3ins with his shirt hanging out, his hand's and neck covered in tattoo's up to his beard, he was over weight and looked like a Telytubbie. Most inspiring.
The security guard in my local Sainsbury's is better dressed than the local police and probably better at his job. They all look short, over weight, bearded, tattooed and scruffy. The average road man would beat them hands down either in a 100 yard dash or 4 round in the ring😂
Yet my son in law, ex Army Marksman, 6ft 1 inch tall, powerfully built and athletic, level headed and very intelligent and no criminal record got rejected when he tried to join a few years ago?
They're recruited from universities now, where they've spent 3yrs being totally indoctrinated by the woke agenda. Then there's the inclusivity policy......
Everything has changed for the worst... My Father used to carry a 303 Rifle on the train to Air cadet drill practice regularly ...no one batted an eye.. Scouts had Sheath knives, Boys had caterpults . Knock down ginger was played and We let of bangers and fired our cap guns at each other ...Society became intolerant ..Feminism crept in .Political correctness and Woke crept in . Immigrants came....and now the Police don't know who in Society they serve any more.....its a Police State of total confusion.
Not to mention the justice system which can be very lenient for certain crimes , and very severe for what some people might think should carry a mild judicial response , the recent so called riots where a person who shout unpleasant words is sent to prison for nearly three years and subsequently hangs himself , while serial criminals if caught are treated lightly .
cowardly and defeatist british men who have allowed that situation to arise and thrive are now, along with their women and children,suffering the consequences of their cowardice and defeatism,
Do we have anything fit for purpose? Nothing works as well as it did 60 years ago, police, NHS, postal service, army, navy, RAF, civil service, MoD, parliament, steel making, industries of all kinds, you name it, Rolls Royce aeroengines being one of the few exceptions.
@@JamesSmith-qs4hx Sure, I hear they want to bring in blasphemy laws to stop criticism of Judaism. oh wait, that's the religion of peace, my bad. Let's all blame the jews though. The global warming of the hard of thinking.
They'd be quite happy to claim it out loud. They believe it deters genocide as genocide is the logical top of the pyramid with hate speech at the bottom.
Good morning Simon. Yes, I am old enough to remember police patrolling on foot. And we East London kids may have been a bit cheeky but we respected them. And they also used to come to our school and talk to us about various safety matters.
Did they take thier uniforms off and invite you round back for fisty cufffs . ? having a square go toe to toe with a 15 year old and getting humiliated was an odd way to try and earn respect in my book .
40 years ago there was a huge bar fight in the Venue nightclub in Liverpool. I distinctly remember a jack ( plainclothes ) running like cheetah after one of the perps, he caught him
I'm 64 years old and still remember the name of our local Bobby we even new where he lived because there were police Houses at the top of our street and he wouldn't think twice giving us a clip round the ear when needed. How times have changed.
Gosh, I'd completely forgotten about the police houses on the council estate where I was brought up. It was a clean, crime-free council estate too (the largest in Europe at the time), where the virtually 100 per cent white population lived in harmony, save for the occasional fist-fight between teenagers.
used to live in Harold Hill where a 17 year old girl was stabbed to death 5 years ago some time after the local police station became a supermarket. I now live near Portsmouth. The Cowplain station closed about 20 years ago and is now private housing. Petersfield police station is now a museum. I have fond memories of PC george Dixon standing under his blue lamp every Saturday evening. I must be old.
While visiting Shenzhen and using the metro to get around it became apparent there was always a policeman present walking up and down the carriages. As no crime was being committed I can only assume the point of him being there (saw many and it was always a he) was to deter crime
I live in Prague, and see bobbies on the beat every single day. You are never more than a 10 minute walk from a local police station here, and the local bobbies are familiar faces. There are also regular patrol cars constantly driving around the neighbourhood, day and night. Perhaps this explains why crime here in Prague is far less than in the UK. A few years ago, in fact, a burglar broken into my basement and stole some tools. I called the police, and they were around within less than 5 minutes, and stayed for at least an hour. They returned twice more to follow up on the crime. I was impressed with their professionalism.
@@shabbos-goy9407 you mean "diversity"? Yeah, the handouts to scroungers and illegals here are very low, unlike the UK. So, that might explain why not many "diverse" folks want to live here.
I grew up in the 1950's and I remember Bobbies. Well dressed, very smart, collar, tie, neatly pressed trousers and a tall hat with a silver bobble on top. One used to ride his bike down our street every couple of days, he'd stop and talk to us kids sometimes and tell us not to play "Queenio Coco" (anybody remember that) and football in the middle of the road but he was OK with hopscotch on the pavement. He was a nice, friendly man, we liked him and it made us feel important that he stopped and spent time to chat with us. I wonder if today's kids ever interact with a police officer?
I had a policeman like that who lived at the end of our street with his wife and two children. A Mr Rapley. He and his wife put in so much extra effort running one of the local Cub Packs of which I was a member.
I’ve mentioned on here before why the police is in the state it is - and it all tracks back to Blair in 1997 I joined the Met in 1991 after service in the Army and the 20 weeks training at Hendon was excellent and run by experienced and respected officers with a minimum of ten years service. During the 2 years probation continuation training was relentless and one could be removed at any time. Older well seasoned officers led the way at police stations and the whole affair was presided over by Sergeants with a wealth of experience and knowledge - discipline was in evidence at every level and the job was a vocation The individual officer was all knowing, smart, fit and patrolled alone on foot most of the time There were always visible officers in most streets We paraded on average 15 people per shift and everyone of those officers went out on patrol and actively sought criminals The was no political leaning - well ok most of us leant to the right I’ll grant you but there was no bullying of the public, and we genuinely cared about victims of crime and hated thieves and burglars We stopped and searched the usual suspects for weapons and street robbery and were unswerving in that pursuit Was it perfect? No of course not Was there less crime and fear of crime? Bloody right because the local scrotes who committed the majority of crime knew they’d get dealt with robustly and they were afraid of getting caught Forget “respect” for the old bill - it never existed- but FEAR now that’s worth having It’s all gone The recruiting process is broken and if you’re a fit, sharp white heterosexual male you need not apply
Total agreement. Your service almost mirrored mine but with a different force. However, the robustness was the same with the same level of experience. No longer applies now, and yes, all thanks to Blair but the rot continued after him as well. Now it is just politics.
Everything with you people tracks back to Blair.....Thatcher will always be worse....It was actually after the labour government in 2008 when huge police cuts happened.
Did your Station Sergeant have the 3 chevrons and the crown as the senior Sergeant, i saw it in a tv documentary and apparently it was done in the Met but gone now?
Dancing the Macarana in public and covering police cars in Rainbow colours hardly inspires public confidence. Recruitment standards seem to have deteriorated and too many woke individuals have become officers.
Society has changed so much as to discipline that there is far to much criminality to properly police. It is like the wild West in many towns and areas of cities. The breakdown of morals, the family unit, where dad ensured discipline to errant children and sc hoo l life rules were adhered to as failure resulted in an unpleasant result. Until this is restored and very unlikely, nothing will change. So many factors causing this breakdown but no one collector it. I remember when this countries way of life was admired around the world. Now the target is to turn it into a basket case as seen in parts of the world from whence so many come to live here. Tis the new normal and just so disappointing that THEY have allowed it to happen. Good luck all
The police operate more like the ambulance service now, in that they react to crime having been committed, (or not, as the case may be), rather than being almost omnipresent in order to prevent it/dissuade those who would otherwise commit it. Now, it would seem they're not even that interested in wanting to respond to a crime in that the criminal in question would either never be found or if they were, have clever lawyers to have them almost immediately exonerated or if they were charged, have the courts be so lenient in their prosecution that it seems a waste of time going to the trouble of arresting them to begin with, thus there being no deterrent at all to having committed such crimes.
Not surprised, the Fire Service act like social services now, and many Ambulance services became Trusts (lol what a misused word) to make money but had to call for civilian volunteer drivers.
Anarcho Tyranny: Remove the presence of ordinary law enforcement, making them only conspicuous by their absence and then replace this with paramilitary style policing with an overrepresented presence. Also, criminals will not be pursued, but ordinary citizens. In addition to this, ideas will be policed, instead of actions.
I grew up when there were still beat policemen on the streets. They were well known in their part of the town and highly visible. They knew who all the potential villains were and kept an eye out for them. Local constables were always approachable and were respected for the sense of security they provided. We badly need them back on the streets.
Do keep up. There was recently a demand to have the statue of Robert Peel in Manchester removed, by 'eminent' historian(?) Ana Lucia Araujo on the grounds that 'Him big raycist!! man!'
thanks for the heads up. I see she dabbles in Yorùbá religious culture ,"Exploring notions of history, collective memory, cultural memory, public memory, official memory, and public history, Slavery in the Age of Memory: " ..............utter load of tripe furnished by a robin stroker .
Only yesterday I witnessed two female police officers (they used to be called policewomen) "patrolling" the streets in my town, all they were doing was giggling amongst themselves like two silly schoolgirls, there was no communication or even acknowledgment with the general public, they weren't solving crime and certainly weren't preventing it! They resembled any young females out shopping.
Similar thing with two male/female officers I saw ambling through our local shopping centre: It was hard to believe they were the police - their whole slovenly demeanour and sneering expressions was that of yobboes swaggering around a council estate.
@@KevinGuy-j5i no it was because to get into the force you needed to be super fit and pass a grueling fitness course, how do I know my son is a police officer
@Mary-lx3zs You do not and have never had to be super fit to get into the Police. The reason is obvious. Only a small amount of the civilian population are "super fit" if you extrapilate this every Police applicant who was not in this civilian super fit bracket would be rejected and hardly any applicants would be accepted. Another obvious question is why would any Police force want only super fit Officers ? its pointless.
Very true. As a fit young feral youth in the 70s, I was often chased down by the odd copper that would amazingly turn the corner when I was up to some petty misdemeanour. I was a very fast runner but always remember a one chubby copper keeping pace with me and grabbing me 😮 One things for sure, they gained our respect even if we didn’t like them. Now all I see are small scruffy gang members, don’t even get me going about the little girls in their make up & false eyelashes. What a country 🤷
The police station in Walsall was very large building . It's been a pile of rubble for about five years. And the one in Aldridge has notice saying not open to the public. So no cops about to do anything about crime.
I was born in South London in the early 50's. My parents taught me to respect the Police. At that time the Police looked 'clean cut' and well dressed--trustworthy? -I would never of questioned them. I found some valuables in a park and my father made me take them to the local Police station. This is duly did. They were not claimed and I returned to collect them after the given probate time. The Police were pleased I had acted this way. Nowadays? Looks like a total mess in the UK.
I just had the opportunity to watch the very first episode of The Bill. The episode contained the morning briefing for the police on the beat. The briefing was all about actual crimes, burglaries and the like. It caused me to wonder what an equivalent briefing would consist of in 2024. Something like: There's a pernitious hurty word writer on X at the moment, we need to track him down so we can record a non-crime hate incident. Oh, and there were a few burglaries, car thefts and muggings last night but don't worry about them, too hard to solve and the prisons are full anyway.
Yes because that’s all they do. Imagine when your loved one wraps themselves around a tree. Just remember when you get that 3am visit to say they’re gone, you think all they deal with is hurty words.
The old adage of 'prevention is better than the cure' applies to so many things. Policing, health, welfare and immigration and plenty of other applications. It is such a disappointment that politicians, the police and the NHS management do not take this fully on board.
I myself have lost much of the respect for the government and officials, I reported a suspicious object near a bus stop, while on a walk, after a long conversation with 101 I waited nearby for over 20 mins and no police in sight. Still haven't seen or heard anything.
Someone I know works for criminal lawyers. She and her colleagues laugh about the Police, who they come into contact with. Apparently they, the Police, have lots of sordid affairs with eachother and looking good is the first line of duty. (Slick hairstyles, false eyelashes etc;) It is very important to look good in the combats, apparently.
unfortunately they have fallen for the american cop show mantra of , "if you are not one of us you are nobody", but their tiny and ever dwindling numbers could be wiped out in a day by a determined and organised resistance force.
You're possibly mistaking that seemingly defunct organization founded by Robert Peel to the one we have today based on a cross between the one founded by Lenin in Russia in 1917 and Hermann Goring in Germany in 1933 and a local neighborly community scheme . The modern service that seems to have replaced Peel's model appears less concerned with what we might deem criminal activity than using intimidatory tactics to quell political or ideological dissent seen as opposing state policy and threatening the cohesion of the society as they wish to reconstruct it. Our modern uk police seem to have now been updated to model itself on Lenin and Goring's Cheka and Gestapo respectively but presently at least incorporating a reassuring touch of a community initiative whereby they turn up at people's door with an aura of intimidating menace laced with cordiality and do not tell the resident the reason for their visit. Presently though, the latterday state servants are tempering the obvious psychological distress of the unexpected visit by instead of the heavy handed tactics of their 20th century European predecessors are a bit more civil by handing out an "invitation" to have an informal chat with them at a later date at their local establishment built under the Peel model with the purpose of serving the community first and not being the private security dept of an incumbent government.
I live in a seaside town on the south coast.. I watched roughly 16 youths break into a building that used to be a flat foots hive.. I rang the Blobbies to let them know that their building was about to be torched 🔦🚔🔥 spent 20 minutes talking to a woman as I watched the ransacking of the building.. 16 youths like a plague of locusts.. I was just concerned with a fire starting in the building.. 2 hours later a police car arrived.. 🙄 there you have it.. you have to report a crime 2 hours before it happens ..🚨
I was in Fort Worth Texas earlier in the year. A police officer one evening, Stetson, gun and a massive mastache similar to Simons, patrolled the bars. Mingling at the bar area, chatting and even mopping the bar and clearing glasses for a few minutes then to the next area down the road. Perfect community policing!
I grew up in a largish village in the south of Kent. We had a police-station, a police house, and throughout the day there was a bobby on duty in the village square. We trusted, respected, and feared the police. Quite a combination that.
The police of yesterday you talked about are a happy memory for me and agree with all you said. My view of modern policing is very different; they are now a government 'army' to keep the people (us) inline. The only crimes that appears to interest them is ones that criticizes the establishment or ruling party.
If you want to see what policing was like in the Paddington I grew up in, watch "The Blue Lamp" filmed in 1949 and still occasionally shown on BBC. Dixon of Dock Green was the TV sequel. The streets of The Blue Lamp are very familiar to me, I watched them making the film. Those were the good old days when we were still a great nation and not the laughing stock of the world which we are today.
All the ex coppers I have met are appalled by what the police have become . Once they decided academia had priority over logik and common sense they have become ineffective and next to useless .
I like my policeman who use to walk the beat around my area. He knew us. He knew who needed to keep an eye on. You respected them. You knew they where there to protect you Now dats your scared to open the door in case someone has taken offence of a word or sentence
True ......... I did myself a cooked dinner (spuds , runner beans , carrots , sprouts and turkey) just over an hour ago , 04:30 . I love being divorced and retired . 👍🏴
I had a copper in my house a couple of years ago and he was talking to my step daughter about incidents involving another girl in the neighborhood. The girl's Mum had phoned them and complained about harassment against her daughter. While speaking to the Mother she showed the officer text messages between my step Daughter and her daughter which actually incriminated her own daughter for the harassment in the first place but the officer still felt the need to come and talk to my step daughter. While speaking to my step daughter the officer was told how she had witnessed the other girl throwing stones at someone's property and climbing the church roof and vandalizing it by ripping tiles and lead off, the officer then proceeded to school my daughter on slander and how she could be done for it saying such things and totally ignored the misuse of telecommunications act that was committed by the other girl by the bullying and threatening texts she had been sending my step daughter. Is it any wonder why we don't trust the police when they get civil and criminal matters confused and even when they have seen damning evidence of a crime they ignore it then go after the victim of the harassment and bullying and try and blame them further when all they did was warn the girls Mother of what her daughter was up to, something that her Mum had asked for my step daughter to do anyway.
The ruling class rarely come into contact with scummy types. And when they do they make all sorts of excuses for them. Before rushing back to their leafy suburb.
Didn't Peter Hitchens say something similar on a tv show ? The Police don't stop crime, only get involved afterwards, which is really too late even if they catch the villain.
Couple of weeks ago in my city centre, one of the many druggys who infest the local square colapsed. (Drug overdoze) With in 5 minutes two Police Vans and a Police car was in attendance, plus 3 Amubulances! 2 years ago a lady freind of mine who is a civil servant, fell and badly broke her ankle. An ambulance was called. She was told it would be at least 3 hours before one came. She lay there in the freezing cold for 30 minutes before a passing motorist carried her screaming in agony into his car then drove her to the Hospital. This is Anarcho-Tyranny!
Although the typical British 'Bobby' was never the brightest of individuals, they were known and respected all over the World, these days they distrusted and despised and rightfully so, they're not our friends!
not yet proven, the police and our armed forces have a question or two to answer, 1 / will you protect and defend your family friends and community or 2 / will you protect and defend the political and establishment class and their foreign friends?, it would be a bit of a worry if all these dover boat people were recruited into our police and armed forces wouldn't it brits after all as most are muslims they would have no problem shooting infidels would they?.
As kids, we were blessed to have a 'village bobby'. Always engaged with us. Always 'popping in for a cuppa' with the elderly and the generational families that lived there. We used to love pulling his leg. But, having been caught on 'mischief night' several times over the years, we also knew where the demarcation lines were drawn and not to step over them, because there were always consequences for our actions; Either a clip round the ear or the option of him taking us to our parents and telling them what we'd been up to. I always took the clip round the ear..
I'm we'll over 50 and grew up in the 70s and 80s and remember as kid going into town as a teenager and would se police walking their beat on a Saturday. There would never be any trouble other than the odd shoplifting which the police were nearby to deal with and generally put the fear of God into the culprits. I've recently visited Prague, Budapest and Krakow and these cities very much remind me of this with smartly dressed officers patrolling both as a deterent and there also to help the public. To be honest, both me and my wife have never seen any criminal activity in major cities outside of the UK, but on a recent trip to the theatre in London, two separate incidents we witnessed while walking to the theatre prompting us to change our plans of finding somewhere to eat after the show and eating in our hotels restaurant.
Recruit activists as Police officers & roll out the welcome mat for the world's miscreants.... It's only going to end one way. & that's not going to be to the benefit of the natives
I remember from an old movie Carry on Constable, when the Sergeant said "Show your appointments" they showed whistle and chain, warrant card, truncheon, and the old striped Watchband they used to wear on duty. Today Policing is not funny, but it is tragic that they have deteriorated to this level.
I was a Met Special Constable 2007-2014 and saw recruitment standards drop considerably for certain demographics! Some recruits that came through made me wonder wether there had been any vetting or interviews at all, let alone passing any selection tests!
What I noticed while living in London was that the Met only policed the public airing their grievances. The citizens of London were pretty much on their own for all other forms of actual criminal activity; and while the police might not come around to your home after a robbery, you can be sure they'd pay you a visit if you criticised them for it on Twitter.
The first statutory police force were the High Constables of Edinburgh, who were created by the Scottish parliament in 1611 to "guard their streets and to commit to ward all person found on the streets after the said hour", and In 1800 an Act of Parliament enabled Glasgow to establish the City of Glasgow Police. These were the first Police Forces in the United Kingdom quite a bit before Robert Peel's Force.
The problem is we are paying for loads of services through our taxes and community charge, but most services no longer work so when you need services, you don,t get them
I grew up and spent most of my adult life being entirely pro-police. It's got to the point now when if some police officers are viciously assaulted in Manchester Airport I just think "Oh well, never mind, move on...".
They are the state paramilitary force, by design. Look at their "uniforms"; they are more like military fatigues one would see in a video game. They no longer serve or protect the public without prejudice. The police service doesn't exist anymore.
In 2014, the college advised police forces to record all 'non-crime hate incidents' - incidents that are perceived to be motivated by hostility but are not criminal offences. The then Head of the police college was openly gay....allegedly.
Heard a true Wartime (WW11) story set in Wales - around midnight towards the end if the war a Policeman who knew the are around his town was told to "seek out" some German escaped prisoners. By good fortune he came across them in the darkness, about five I think, he blew his whistle and told them to raise their hands and march in front of him down the road back to the town and, eventually to the Police station. Oncce inside, with lights on they were mortified to find he had no gun or rifle!!! In those days as in England up until the late 1960's the Authority of the Police was feared! Experienced living in a small market town in the then Royal County of Berkshire a population of no more than three and a half thousand that swelled considerably on Market Day each month when all sorts of "dodgy deals" happened but with the "common wisdom" of the local Police Force there were many arrests!!! Living opposite the local Police station that served as the Magistrates Courts - the same villains were seen every Thursday following Market Day!!!
Addressing Public Safety Concerns As London’s population swelled from approximately one million in 1800 to over two million by 1850, crime rates surged. The old systems of policing could not cope with this increase. Peel recognized that a professional police force was essential for maintaining public order and safety. He believed that a centralized, organized police force would be more effective than the fragmented system that existed prior to his reforms.... Conclusion from the statement above is considering the London population is now 10m the police force has failed for whatever reason.. Tony cuenca
I havent a clue where my local police station is. There were three within a few miles when I moved here is 2005 and now they have all been built over. Havent seen a police person on foot for years. They all seem to be in high vis jackets holding back protestors in other parts of the country.
By Design, the left control the justice system, Starmer was head of the CPS. Thats what Karl Marx said. `Create chaos´ to destroy society so the left can bring in a new order, that doesnt include us. So wake up.
I was a copper for 30 years, mostly on the streets. I saw the way things were going and, while I could have stayed on, I decided to take the money and run. Luckily, I was able to get another job straight away as a university lecturer (I have a PhD in analytical linguistics).
It’s a joke, the police station in the village where I grew up is now a dental practice. It was in the heart of the village within walking distance of 6 or 7 seven public houses, now they have a phone box in a car park to go to.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”
― Alexander Solschenizyn🤔
_"You must understand"_
Both the Tories & Labour must be communist then, cos this has been happening since Blair.
Just like ours you mean
Keir bum boy Starmer read it to thought it was a good idea.
Many years ago I had great respect for the police. But sadly times have changed and so has the police. It is completely obvious that if you speak out about a certain religion the odds are you will be sent to prison even if what you are saying is truthful and yet we see no arrest are made if the shoe is on the other foot. Its the same in China. Russia, and North Korea and now we are part of that regime. Its seems we are in for some very dangerous and dark times ahead.
I was a bobby 85 to 2015 and i hated the last five years... changed beyond recognition and lack of discretion and public contact was outrageous
All the decent ones have left leaving only the shite behind
Wow; respect to you❤
@@georgedk1296 I’ll take that as a compliment. I served in London from 1987 to 2017….@sitrocket is right…. It all started going wrong imo when they brought in police crime commissioners and they became political tools. As a young PC I would arrest anyone who was doing wrong, didn’t matter what they looked like. No one ever called me ‘Pig’ to my face. Anyone who dared “touch the cloth” were immediately arrested for assault on Police.
what is your opinion on public auditors keeping the police transparent and accountable.?. the response from officers is very telling in sorting the wheat from the chaff in regards to incompetence and failure to follow the police code of conduct .
Are you still working to protect society?
Remember when there were police houses in villages and small towns?
Another example of how the police were present and embedded in their communities.
Yep, with a pale blue door; and we knew his name and he knew all of ours... what an appalling change for the worse.
Yea, the row of gardens that backed onto ours and our neighbours were police houses, didn't really think about it, was just normal growing up and the parents talking to them at the bottom of the garden, (dad nervously sometimes lol)
Yes I do, but the sell off of local police resources started under the Thatcher government. Unfortunately we have had bad and rotten leadership since Jack Straw and Blunkett. Poor decision making and the lack of Policing independence from Government. As for the current leadership it's awful!
And in the parks
I lived in a village in North Herts as a kid. There was a village policeman. He had a normal house but had an annex with a counter and leaflets etc. He made his presence felt round the village which was welcome. He was a popular guy and gave a sense of security. Now I do not trust the police. One is lucky to get an incidence report, and I say that very much on experience.
The uniformed section of Anti-Fa
The supression of free speech by police IS in fact Facsism. So is their support of the Isl@mo-
F@csists.
Anti-fair 🤣
Your bang on form today Ron. Yep witnessed that with my own eyes back in 2003.
That's why College and University types get the job , been through the lefty education.
Who thinks of these anti groups and who funds their activities?
All roads lead to Telll Avvveeev, and the nation wreckers!!!
Their heavy handedness during lockdown turned me against them.
Unfortunately, people have short memories and forget the part 'they' played in that
Sadly yes,they were official thugs of the Government.
Official thugs of the government.
Bully boys...@@RonP1.2
Quite so
Not only lost the public's confidence. They are despised and ridiculed in equal measure.
the jab judas's
I READ THAT WELL OVER A THOUSAND HAD QUIT THE FORCE SINCE WE WERE VISITED BY YOU KNOW WHO. IS ANYONE KEEPING COUNT ?
Globally now.
During the short unrest in liverpool after an islamist murdered 3 innocent little girls i watched the police on the cities streets with batons and shields doing everything they could to look pathetic...i swear to god...the citizens were falling about laughing at these idiots...people were filming them in fits of hysterics.....it truly was straight out of the 'benny hill show'... what a gang of out of touch zrseholes 😂🤣😂🤣
They serve the occupation and minority rule just fine though.
street judas's
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Great isn’t it 💪🏾 😂
SIMPLE, THEY ARE DELIBERATELY POLITICISED. DOESN'T THIS SMACK OF HISTORIS EXTREMIST FORCES LIKE GESTAPO, AND STASI. WHERE ARE THE POLICE ORGANISATIONS, THAT SPEAKS FOR THEIR BENEFIT AND PROTECTION ? LOST THEIR POWER'S ?
By occupation you mean invaders 😮 ?
If you want the police to come quick go and stand outside a legal immigrants hotel with a camera within 2 minutes they will be there quite amazing
You need to get out a bit more
@@KevinGuy-j5isounds like you are the one that needs to get out a bit more.
Yes you're absolutely right
@@KevinGuy-j5i you obviously don't.
@@KevinGuy-j5i I think "morris8398" does get out a bit - he sees what's going on with these hotels, housing illegals....
I watched a video from Birmingham where a 60+ year old man was being arrested because he had voiced displeasure at a pro-Palestine protest being staged on Remembrance day, he said he was not even aware he had been heard by anyone, he had said this was 'pissing people off' because it clashed with the spirit of the day. I was gob smacked to see this, four or five officers were tut-tutting this chap, and they led him off in handcuffs to a police van. This is not what British people expect a police man to do. This was neither justified or even fair - and they wonder why people criticize them
The U.K. is communist now
Get with the project FFS
You watched a video of a paid agitator pretending to be on the Palestinian side. Your lies have been exposed globally
As Peter Hitchens has said, we need a totally new proper police force that actually polices crime, to be introduced alongside the current police service to eventually replace it. I've seen a lot of police since the Southport stabber protests but they are there to make sure the 'far right' behaves not to stop crime.
We need education reforms first. Today's police are a product of modern schooling. Obey but not think.
Another step towards a " police state " Thank you Stasi .
all over europe and the e.u. the far right is gaining ground,watch france and germany in the next few weeks big trouble brewing its time brits realised that only the far right will put you and your children first last and always in your own country,nobody else will least of all the anti british anti white anti christian anti european liblabcon uniparty.
Just a reminder that the first officer on the scene in Southport refused to go in until 'back up arrived'. He just stood outside whilst it was all happening, with his s--b proof vest and nightstick. The Merseyside police chief then had the audacity to go on national TV and praise the heroism of her force...
@@14Anon2"Her!" force is another problem methinks!!!🤔🧐🤨🙄
My sister and I got caught scrumping apples by the orchad owner when we were kids. We had to sit and wait for a policeman to arrive where-upon he give us a good ticking off, We were terrified! I doubt it is no coincidence that this kind of community policing ended when mass immigration began.
I remember 'scrumping'!
My dad was caught by his policeman dad scrumping and dragged to the farmhouse to apologise 😂
I found a wallet outside my house. I took it to my local Police Station but they were closed for lunch. I went back at 2pm and the front door was still locked. So I phoned. I was told to go to another station 14 miles away.
I could see several cops through the window. So gestured to them.
Eventually a female officer opened the front desk. Reluctantly.
I explained the situation. "And what are we supposed to do about it?" she said.
Maybe try to trace the owner from one of the Bank Cards with her name on it, said I. There are only 8 people with that name in our local phone book.
I could have phoned each of them quicker myself.
I think this eloquently sums it up nicely
We now find ourselves in a position where police stations no longer take in Lost Property (valuables), but the finder can't hold on to them even for a short period while they attempt to trace the owner as this amounts to Stealing By Finding.
I used to work in a police station cash office. They’re supposed to accept the wallet , take your own name and contact details, and if the owner of the wallet doesn’t come forward in 6 months, the wallet and any cash therein belong to you.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-treeThey didn't ask my name or phone number.
The wallet had £200 in it.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-treeExactly. I found a purse years ago it had about £4.00 in it. Took it to police station had to wait for 3 months . I went back as told to and it hadn't been claimed so they gave it to me. Those days are certainly gone.
They don’t serve the people,they’re just starmers private army
They have been a branch of government since Thatcher's day
Seem to remember a similar prick back in 1934 had a private army and culminated in "night of the Long knives". Sooner or later all dictators cull the opposition
They don't even make the effort to do the detecting. My debit card was stolen, used to buy from a large retailer. I called the retailer and they gave me the delivery address. I gave the address to the police and even offered to drive an officer to the address if they were short on transport. Not interested in the slightest in the address, or the offer. Similar thing with a stolen laptop, which I traced as using a landline number. Again police not interested in the specifics in the slightest. And both these happened a good ten years ago, and ten years apart. This apathy is not a new thing, it's been there a long, long time. It's just right in your face now.
Yeah Crime figures are down, because they simply don't investigate many.
I sent the police clear, daytime video and photos, including close ups of faces, of 2 men who were jacking cars up and stealing the catalytic converters. Not even a "thank you" from them, and no follow up. The local paper ran a story a few days later about how the police are "baffled" by a spate of catalytic converter thefts in the area, and appealed to the public for any information. The mind boggles. As far as I know, the men were never traced.
Problem is also that even petty crooks and illegal immigrants have zero fear nor respect for the piss poor excuse for a police "service"
The informers work with them for blind eyes in return.
Last week I saw several police vans edge round 2 cyclists riding erratically without lights at 10pm. They had zero fear of being stopped.
Illegal immigrants are helped and rewarded in breaking the law to get here so of course they won't have any respect for our laws or police.
I phoned the police last year when the local Boots was being ram raided by a second generation fellow. I rang 999.
"Is this an emergency?"
"Well the Boots is being robbed at the moment"
"Transferring you now " (2 mins later) "Thank you for calling... The Police... your call is important to us... Your call has been placed in a queue... and will be answered by the next available operator... (light orchestral music)"
That was a positive response these days
We have no local police station but the one in town has its doors locked. You ring the doorbell and no one answers.
@@twistedsister2568we have telephones that enable you to talk to people without face to face contact being necessary where I live
@@twistedsister2568 same here. Cars outside,police inside but no access for the paying public. No police presence in our Suffolk town of 30,000+
I have zero confidence in the application of the traditional unbiased rule of law in this country . Very sad for a 71 year old law abiding citizen.
You should have said someone was tweeting at the wheel 🤭👍🏴
I saw a policeman in Birmingham with his mate in the middle of summer, he was about 4ft 3ins with his shirt hanging out, his hand's and neck covered in tattoo's up to his beard, he was over weight and looked like a Telytubbie. Most inspiring.
The security guard in my local Sainsbury's is better dressed than the local police and probably better at his job. They all look short, over weight, bearded, tattooed and scruffy. The average road man would beat them hands down either in a 100 yard dash or 4 round in the ring😂
Yet my son in law, ex Army Marksman, 6ft 1 inch tall, powerfully built and athletic, level headed and very intelligent and no criminal record got rejected when he tried to join a few years ago?
They're recruited from universities now, where they've spent 3yrs being totally indoctrinated by the woke agenda. Then there's the inclusivity policy......
That's because, standards have became offensive .
@@Occident. Its the left.
Illegal doesn't mean anything unless there's a fine at the end of it.
The arrivals are testing the boundaries and not finding any.
We never voted for this Stasi...
We've been voting for the Uniparty for decades. Same thing
There's an awful lot we didn't vote for. It is very depressing.
But we got it anyway, thanks to Blair.
Everything has changed for the worst... My Father used to carry a 303 Rifle on the train to Air cadet drill practice regularly ...no one batted an eye.. Scouts had Sheath knives, Boys had caterpults . Knock down ginger was played and We let of bangers and fired our cap guns at each other ...Society became intolerant ..Feminism crept in .Political correctness and Woke crept in . Immigrants came....and now the Police don't know who in Society they serve any more.....its a Police State of total confusion.
Don't forget to mention that terrible online Internet thingy
100% accurate what a shit hole we have become due to third world enrichment
Massive overpopulation came. Society lost cohesion. Blair was the start of it.
and cowardice and defeatism infected british men.
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Not to mention the justice system which can be very lenient for certain crimes , and very severe for what some people might think should carry a mild judicial response , the recent so called riots where a person who shout unpleasant words is sent to prison for nearly three years and subsequently hangs himself , while serial criminals if caught are treated lightly .
@@davemoore1101
Just what I was thinking.
We in Britain no longer have a Police Force that is fit for purpose
cowardly and defeatist british men who have allowed that situation to arise and thrive are now, along with their women and children,suffering the consequences of their cowardice and defeatism,
we never did
It was ok in the 1960s and 70s. @@GreggFellows
Do we have anything fit for purpose? Nothing works as well as it did 60 years ago, police, NHS, postal service, army, navy, RAF, civil service, MoD, parliament, steel making, industries of all kinds, you name it, Rolls Royce aeroengines being one of the few exceptions.
As a retired Met Police PC I agree entirely with you and despair at what The Police Force I was once proud to serve in has become 😢
do you miss fitting people up?
@@GreggFellows That all had to stop when leroy and abdool came along...🤣
I suspect senior police officers would claim that monitoring speech deters crime. Perhaps not out loud.
oiiiiiii veyyyyyy
@@JamesSmith-qs4hx Sure, I hear they want to bring in blasphemy laws to stop criticism of Judaism. oh wait, that's the religion of peace, my bad. Let's all blame the jews though. The global warming of the hard of thinking.
They'd be quite happy to claim it out loud. They believe it deters genocide as genocide is the logical top of the pyramid with hate speech at the bottom.
Excellent Simon exactly right and sensible.
By their own founding principles todays police force is an abject failure .
They should never have got rid of the 6ft rule.
Good morning Simon. Yes, I am old enough to remember police patrolling on foot. And we East London kids may have been a bit cheeky but we respected them. And they also used to come to our school and talk to us about various safety matters.
Did they take thier uniforms off and invite you round back for fisty cufffs . ? having a square go toe to toe with a 15 year old and getting humiliated was an odd way to try and earn respect in my book .
@@EvenBigger-Brother No, never had that experience.
I remember a time when the copper could run .......... Personal experience . 🏴
40 years ago there was a huge bar fight in the Venue nightclub in Liverpool. I distinctly remember a jack ( plainclothes ) running like cheetah after one of the perps, he caught him
@@jazztheglass6139 Proper copper ....... Old school.. 👍🏴
They still *can* run - away from the invaders!
They still do .
They run in the opposite direction when certain communities kick off .
@isfbuster6733 Or run to Greggs . 🏴
I'm 64 years old and still remember the name of our local Bobby we even new where he lived because there were police Houses at the top of our street and he wouldn't think twice giving us a clip round the ear when needed. How times have changed.
That's right, things have changed. Police officers are now no longer allowed to assault children. Thank goodness
Gosh, I'd completely forgotten about the police houses on the council estate where I was brought up. It was a clean, crime-free council estate too (the largest in Europe at the time), where the virtually 100 per cent white population lived in harmony, save for the occasional fist-fight between teenagers.
@@philipadams5386Glasgow Council estates were 100% but it wasn't crime free it was crime ridden;)))
@@SMITHSONIAN33 Ah, but we were all soft Southerners.
2024: Police solved no burglaries in years but at least they can dance the Macarena 🤦
And hand Muslim privilege to scores of criminals , giving them amnesty from their crimes ( Manchester airport/ summer riots )
used to live in Harold Hill where a 17 year old girl was stabbed to death 5 years ago some time after the local police station became a supermarket. I now live near Portsmouth. The Cowplain station closed about 20 years ago and is now private housing. Petersfield police station is now a museum. I have fond memories of PC george Dixon standing under his blue lamp every Saturday evening. I must be old.
@@brianriley5383 remember old George very well as well as Z cars on mersey side driving the zephyr
Yes join the club. If only the local policeman still lived in the police house in the community.
While visiting Shenzhen and using the metro to get around it became apparent there was always a policeman present walking up and down the carriages. As no crime was being committed I can only assume the point of him being there (saw many and it was always a he) was to deter crime
Indeed. Visible Presence alone is a highly effective deterrent.
I live in Prague, and see bobbies on the beat every single day. You are never more than a 10 minute walk from a local police station here, and the local bobbies are familiar faces. There are also regular patrol cars constantly driving around the neighbourhood, day and night. Perhaps this explains why crime here in Prague is far less than in the UK. A few years ago, in fact, a burglar broken into my basement and stole some tools. I called the police, and they were around within less than 5 minutes, and stayed for at least an hour. They returned twice more to follow up on the crime. I was impressed with their professionalism.
I saw virtually no enrichment in Prague
We can but dream of that here.
@@shabbos-goy9407 you mean "diversity"? Yeah, the handouts to scroungers and illegals here are very low, unlike the UK. So, that might explain why not many "diverse" folks want to live here.
@@jamestower4473 you could fight for it.
@@AnthonyLauder Spot on.
I grew up in the 1950's and I remember Bobbies. Well dressed, very smart, collar, tie, neatly pressed trousers and a tall hat with a silver bobble on top. One used to ride his bike down our street every couple of days, he'd stop and talk to us kids sometimes and tell us not to play "Queenio Coco" (anybody remember that) and football in the middle of the road but he was OK with hopscotch on the pavement. He was a nice, friendly man, we liked him and it made us feel important that he stopped and spent time to chat with us. I wonder if today's kids ever interact with a police officer?
They will if they are on social media or sending sexual images to their friends.
I had a policeman like that who lived at the end of our street with his wife and two children. A Mr Rapley. He and his wife put in so much extra effort running one of the local Cub Packs of which I was a member.
you'll be lucky if you see a copper walking. or in a car. today. what a world.
I’ve mentioned on here before why the police is in the state it is - and it all tracks back to Blair in 1997
I joined the Met in 1991 after service in the Army and the 20 weeks training at Hendon was excellent and run by experienced and respected officers with a minimum of ten years service.
During the 2 years probation continuation training was relentless and one could be removed at any time.
Older well seasoned officers led the way at police stations and the whole affair was presided over by Sergeants with a wealth of experience and knowledge - discipline was in evidence at every level and the job was a vocation
The individual officer was all knowing, smart, fit and patrolled alone on foot most of the time
There were always visible officers in most streets
We paraded on average 15 people per shift and everyone of those officers went out on patrol and actively sought criminals
The was no political leaning - well ok most of us leant to the right I’ll grant you but there was no bullying of the public, and we genuinely cared about victims of crime and hated thieves and burglars
We stopped and searched the usual suspects for weapons and street robbery and were unswerving in that pursuit
Was it perfect?
No of course not
Was there less crime and fear of crime? Bloody right because the local scrotes who committed the majority of crime knew they’d get dealt with robustly and they were afraid of getting caught
Forget “respect” for the old bill - it never existed- but FEAR now that’s worth having
It’s all gone
The recruiting process is broken and if you’re a fit, sharp white heterosexual male you need not apply
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Indeed, they're excluding the very people they need. Recipe for disaster.
Total agreement. Your service almost mirrored mine but with a different force. However, the robustness was the same with the same level of experience. No longer applies now, and yes, all thanks to Blair but the rot continued after him as well. Now it is just politics.
Everything with you people tracks back to Blair.....Thatcher will always be worse....It was actually after the labour government in 2008 when huge police cuts happened.
Did your Station Sergeant have the 3 chevrons and the crown as the senior Sergeant, i saw it in a tv documentary and apparently it was done in the Met but gone now?
Robert Peel would turn in his grave
Dancing the Macarana in public and covering police cars in Rainbow colours hardly inspires public confidence. Recruitment standards seem to have deteriorated and too many woke individuals have become officers.
Society has changed so much as to discipline that there is far to much criminality to properly police. It is like the wild West in many towns and areas of cities. The breakdown of morals, the family unit, where dad ensured discipline to errant children and
sc hoo l life rules were adhered to as failure resulted in an unpleasant result. Until this is restored and very unlikely, nothing will change. So many factors causing this breakdown but no one collector it. I remember when this countries way of life was admired around the world. Now the target is to turn it into a basket case as seen in parts of the world from whence so many come to live here. Tis the new normal and just so disappointing that THEY have allowed it to happen. Good luck all
The police operate more like the ambulance service now, in that they react to crime having been committed, (or not, as the case may be), rather than being almost omnipresent in order to prevent it/dissuade those who would otherwise commit it. Now, it would seem they're not even that interested in wanting to respond to a crime in that the criminal in question would either never be found or if they were, have clever lawyers to have them almost immediately exonerated or if they were charged, have the courts be so lenient in their prosecution that it seems a waste of time going to the trouble of arresting them to begin with, thus there being no deterrent at all to having committed such crimes.
Not surprised, the Fire Service act like social services now, and many Ambulance services became Trusts (lol what a misused word) to make money but had to call for civilian volunteer drivers.
Anarcho Tyranny: Remove the presence of ordinary law enforcement, making them only conspicuous by their absence and then replace this with paramilitary style policing with an overrepresented presence. Also, criminals will not be pursued, but ordinary citizens. In addition to this, ideas will be policed, instead of actions.
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I grew up when there were still beat policemen on the streets. They were well known in their part of the town and highly visible. They knew who all the potential villains were and kept an eye out for them. Local constables were always approachable and were respected for the sense of security they provided. We badly need them back on the streets.
They are hopeless now. I wouldn’t be surprised if security firms stated offering a service to particular residents.
it's coming soon as the UK balkanizes a new south Africa
@@brianbadonde8700And then we'll have to go full-Orania.
Do keep up. There was recently a demand to have the statue of Robert Peel in Manchester removed, by 'eminent' historian(?) Ana Lucia Araujo on the grounds that 'Him big raycist!! man!'
thanks for the heads up. I see she dabbles in Yorùbá religious culture ,"Exploring notions of history, collective memory, cultural memory, public memory, official memory, and public history, Slavery in the Age of Memory: " ..............utter load of tripe furnished by a robin stroker .
Another grifter who makes her living sowing division
They're un-Peeling!
Clever!
Only yesterday I witnessed two female police officers (they used to be called policewomen) "patrolling" the streets in my town, all they were doing was giggling amongst themselves like two silly schoolgirls, there was no communication or even acknowledgment with the general public, they weren't solving crime and certainly weren't preventing it! They resembled any young females out shopping.
Similar thing with two male/female officers I saw ambling through our local shopping centre: It was hard to believe they were the police - their whole slovenly demeanour and sneering expressions was that of yobboes swaggering around a council estate.
The Oompah lumpahs are mostly useless. The Manchester airport incident proved that.
When I was a youngster a long time ago I never once saw a tubby policeman.
That's because there was no obesity present in the population year ago
@@KevinGuy-j5i no it was because to get into the force you needed to be super fit and pass a grueling fitness course, how do I know my son is a police officer
@KevinGuy-j5their all in mc Donalds or stopping off at greggs..😂i
@Kurt_Steiner You would not know because there is no requirement for half of Police Officers to wear a uniform
@Mary-lx3zs You do not and have never had to be super fit to get into the Police. The reason is obvious. Only a small amount of the civilian population are "super fit" if you extrapilate this every Police applicant who was not in this civilian super fit bracket would be rejected and hardly any applicants would be accepted. Another obvious question is why would any Police force want only super fit Officers ? its pointless.
Very true. As a fit young feral youth in the 70s, I was often chased down by the odd copper that would amazingly turn the corner when I was up to some petty misdemeanour. I was a very fast runner but always remember a one chubby copper keeping pace with me and grabbing me 😮 One things for sure, they gained our respect even if we didn’t like them. Now all I see are small scruffy gang members, don’t even get me going about the little girls in their make up & false eyelashes. What a country 🤷
I saw 2 policewomen patroling my area during covid, this was in case anyone was exercising their dog outside their area.
Around our way they staked out local parks to threaten children.
Someone had to make sure people weren't enjoying the outdoors for more than their allotted time per day
@@aaronbeat1136 Everyone should've ignored the lockdown. Shame more didn't.
The police station in Walsall was very large building .
It's been a pile of rubble for about five years. And the one in Aldridge has notice saying not open to the public.
So no cops about to do anything about crime.
I was born in South London in the early 50's. My parents taught me to respect the Police. At that time the Police looked 'clean cut' and well dressed--trustworthy? -I would never of questioned them. I found some valuables in a park and my father made me take them to the local Police station. This is duly did. They were not claimed and I returned to collect them after the given probate time. The Police were pleased I had acted this way. Nowadays? Looks like a total mess in the UK.
I just had the opportunity to watch the very first episode of The Bill. The episode contained the morning briefing for the police on the beat. The briefing was all about actual crimes, burglaries and the like. It caused me to wonder what an equivalent briefing would consist of in 2024. Something like: There's a pernitious hurty word writer on X at the moment, we need to track him down so we can record a non-crime hate incident. Oh, and there were a few burglaries, car thefts and muggings last night but don't worry about them, too hard to solve and the prisons are full anyway.
Yes because that’s all they do. Imagine when your loved one wraps themselves around a tree. Just remember when you get that 3am visit to say they’re gone, you think all they deal with is hurty words.
The old adage of 'prevention is better than the cure' applies to so many things. Policing, health, welfare and immigration and plenty of other applications. It is such a disappointment that politicians, the police and the NHS management do not take this fully on board.
I myself have lost much of the respect for the government and officials, I reported a suspicious object near a bus stop, while on a walk, after a long conversation with 101 I waited nearby for over 20 mins and no police in sight.
Still haven't seen or heard anything.
We need a new judiciary and CPS that are not complicit with corruption
Indeed, I would include the civil service also.
@pointblankracer6274 absolutely!
face facts the liblabcon = the uniparty and they dont work for us.
Someone I know works for criminal lawyers. She and her colleagues laugh about the Police, who they come into contact with. Apparently they, the Police, have lots of sordid affairs with eachother and looking good is the first line of duty. (Slick hairstyles, false eyelashes etc;) It is very important to look good in the combats, apparently.
unfortunately they have fallen for the american cop show mantra of , "if you are not one of us you are nobody", but their tiny and ever dwindling numbers could be wiped out in a day by a determined and organised resistance force.
Ah the dear old village bobby! Once a respected international symbol of Great Britain, instantly recognisable, now reduced to nothing. 😢
You're possibly mistaking that seemingly defunct organization founded by Robert Peel to the one we have today based on a cross between the one founded by Lenin in Russia in 1917 and Hermann Goring in Germany in 1933 and a local neighborly community scheme . The modern service that seems to have replaced Peel's model appears less concerned with what we might deem criminal activity than using intimidatory tactics to quell political or ideological dissent seen as opposing state policy and threatening the cohesion of the society as they wish to reconstruct it.
Our modern uk police seem to have now been updated to model itself on Lenin and Goring's Cheka and Gestapo respectively but presently at least incorporating a reassuring touch of a community initiative whereby they turn up at people's door with an aura of intimidating menace laced with cordiality and do not tell the resident the reason for their visit. Presently though, the latterday state servants are tempering the obvious psychological distress of the unexpected visit by instead of the heavy handed tactics of their 20th century European predecessors are a bit more civil by handing out an "invitation" to have an informal chat with them at a later date at their local establishment built under the Peel model with the purpose of serving the community first and not being the private security dept of an incumbent government.
Totally agree, well said.
I live in a seaside town on the south coast.. I watched roughly 16 youths break into a building that used to be a flat foots hive.. I rang the Blobbies to let them know that their building was about to be torched 🔦🚔🔥 spent 20 minutes talking to a woman as I watched the ransacking of the building.. 16 youths like a plague of locusts.. I was just concerned with a fire starting in the building.. 2 hours later a police car arrived.. 🙄 there you have it.. you have to report a crime 2 hours before it happens ..🚨
You have to make an appointment with a GP in my area, before you become sick enough to need one. I work in the NHS nothing surprises me any more.
I was in Fort Worth Texas earlier in the year. A police officer one evening, Stetson, gun and a massive mastache similar to Simons, patrolled the bars. Mingling at the bar area, chatting and even mopping the bar and clearing glasses for a few minutes then to the next area down the road. Perfect community policing!
My English heritage 2nd generation relatives live in Ohio, one of them is a Sheriff, he does the same
I grew up in a largish village in the south of Kent. We had a police-station, a police house, and throughout the day there was a bobby on duty in the village square. We trusted, respected, and feared the police. Quite a combination that.
Its Simple Simon. Your videos are so good and informative that I have to watch them every day and look forward to them. Many Many Thanks
The police of yesterday you talked about are a happy memory for me and agree with all you said.
My view of modern policing is very different; they are now a government 'army' to keep the people (us) inline.
The only crimes that appears to interest them is ones that criticizes the establishment or ruling party.
If you want to see what policing was like in the Paddington I grew up in, watch "The Blue Lamp" filmed in 1949 and still occasionally shown on BBC. Dixon of Dock Green was the TV sequel. The streets of The Blue Lamp are very familiar to me, I watched them making the film. Those were the good old days when we were still a great nation and not the laughing stock of the world which we are today.
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All the ex coppers I have met are appalled by what the police have become .
Once they decided academia had priority over logik and common sense they have become ineffective and next to useless .
fast tracked university types and 4 foot tall lesbians have made brits despise them all.
All going to plan.
Ooooi Veeeeey!!!.
Anarcho-Tyranny.
I like my policeman who use to walk the beat around my area. He knew us. He knew who needed to keep an eye on. You respected them. You knew they where there to protect you Now dats your scared to open the door in case someone has taken offence of a word or sentence
Us oldies don’t sleep in. Good morning
It's not morning where I am, it's almost 11pm.
Us shift workers too.
True ......... I did myself a cooked dinner (spuds , runner beans , carrots , sprouts and turkey) just over an hour ago , 04:30 . I love being divorced and retired . 👍🏴
@@johnbowkett80Are you being serious John ?
@@KevinGuy-j5i Yes ..... Of couese I am . I often eat at that time . Sometimes earlier . Time is just a construct . 👍🏴
"We all want Law and Order.......
Just,... not TOO much Law and Order."
"Ah, Mr Chisholm, what a pleasure it is to see you again....."
Arthur Daley
I had a copper in my house a couple of years ago and he was talking to my step daughter about incidents involving another girl in the neighborhood.
The girl's Mum had phoned them and complained about harassment against her daughter.
While speaking to the Mother she showed the officer text messages between my step Daughter and her daughter which actually incriminated her own daughter for the harassment in the first place but the officer still felt the need to come and talk to my step daughter.
While speaking to my step daughter the officer was told how she had witnessed the other girl throwing stones at someone's property and climbing the church roof and vandalizing it by ripping tiles and lead off, the officer then proceeded to school my daughter on slander and how she could be done for it saying such things and totally ignored the misuse of telecommunications act that was committed by the other girl by the bullying and threatening texts she had been sending my step daughter.
Is it any wonder why we don't trust the police when they get civil and criminal matters confused and even when they have seen damning evidence of a crime they ignore it then go after the victim of the harassment and bullying and try and blame them further when all they did was warn the girls Mother of what her daughter was up to, something that her Mum had asked for my step daughter to do anyway.
The ruling class rarely come into contact with scummy types. And when they do they make all sorts of excuses for them. Before rushing back to their leafy suburb.
Didn't Peter Hitchens say something similar on a tv show ? The Police don't stop crime, only get involved afterwards, which is really too late even if they catch the villain.
"No Minister ever stood,or could stand,against public opinion " Sir Robert Peel.
I regret that they now look like paramilitary and are therefore unapproachable.
Couple of weeks ago in my city centre, one of the many druggys who infest the local square colapsed. (Drug overdoze) With in 5 minutes two Police Vans and a Police car was in attendance, plus 3 Amubulances! 2 years ago a lady freind of mine who is a civil servant, fell and badly broke her ankle. An ambulance was called. She was told it would be at least 3 hours before one came. She lay there in the freezing cold for 30 minutes before a passing motorist carried her screaming in agony into his car then drove her to the Hospital. This is Anarcho-Tyranny!
it wouldn't happen if our menfolk weren't such cowards and defeatists.
Although the typical British 'Bobby' was never the brightest of individuals, they were known and respected all over the World, these days they distrusted and despised and rightfully so, they're not our friends!
not yet proven, the police and our armed forces have a question or two to answer,
1 / will you protect and defend your family friends and community or
2 / will you protect and defend the political and establishment class and their foreign friends?,
it would be a bit of a worry if all these dover boat people were recruited into our police and armed forces wouldn't it brits after all as most are muslims they would have no problem shooting infidels would they?.
Now the Stasi lurk round every computer.
Yeah don't say hurty words for god sake. They will kick your door in in the morning.
Blimey - both barrels before 6am 👏
Eye contact will get you arrested.
As kids, we were blessed to have a 'village bobby'. Always engaged with us. Always 'popping in for a cuppa' with the elderly and the generational families that lived there. We used to love pulling his leg. But, having been caught on 'mischief night' several times over the years, we also knew where the demarcation lines were drawn and not to step over them, because there were always consequences for our actions; Either a clip round the ear or the option of him taking us to our parents and telling them what we'd been up to. I always took the clip round the ear..
I'm we'll over 50 and grew up in the 70s and 80s and remember as kid going into town as a teenager and would se police walking their beat on a Saturday. There would never be any trouble other than the odd shoplifting which the police were nearby to deal with and generally put the fear of God into the culprits. I've recently visited Prague, Budapest and Krakow and these cities very much remind me of this with smartly dressed officers patrolling both as a deterent and there also to help the public. To be honest, both me and my wife have never seen any criminal activity in major cities outside of the UK, but on a recent trip to the theatre in London, two separate incidents we witnessed while walking to the theatre prompting us to change our plans of finding somewhere to eat after the show and eating in our hotels restaurant.
Recruit activists as Police officers & roll out the welcome mat for the world's miscreants.... It's only going to end one way.
& that's not going to be to the benefit of the natives
I remember from an old movie Carry on Constable, when the Sergeant said "Show your appointments" they showed whistle and chain, warrant card, truncheon, and the old striped Watchband they used to wear on duty.
Today Policing is not funny, but it is tragic that they have deteriorated to this level.
I was a Met Special Constable 2007-2014 and saw recruitment standards drop considerably for certain demographics! Some recruits that came through made me wonder wether there had been any vetting or interviews at all, let alone passing any selection tests!
What I noticed while living in London was that the Met only policed the public airing their grievances. The citizens of London were pretty much on their own for all other forms of actual criminal activity; and while the police might not come around to your home after a robbery, you can be sure they'd pay you a visit if you criticised them for it on Twitter.
Ah….but filming an industrial estate warrants immediate attendance 😝
They’d rather deal with easy stuff than actual crime
The first statutory police force were the High Constables of Edinburgh, who were created by the Scottish parliament in 1611 to "guard their streets and to commit to ward all person found on the streets after the said hour", and In 1800 an Act of Parliament enabled Glasgow to establish the City of Glasgow Police. These were the first Police Forces in the United Kingdom quite a bit before Robert Peel's Force.
The problem is we are paying for loads of services through our taxes and community charge, but most services no longer work so when you need services, you don,t get them
It's not only the police force that's changed, it's the criminals that have changed far more. Non English ones mostly
they like sitting in their stations and cars
Tic Tok, YT, making some bets online, texting.... and getting paid for it
I grew up and spent most of my adult life being entirely pro-police. It's got to the point now when if some police officers are viciously assaulted in Manchester Airport I just think "Oh well, never mind, move on...".
They are the state paramilitary force, by design. Look at their "uniforms"; they are more like military fatigues one would see in a video game. They no longer serve or protect the public without prejudice. The police service doesn't exist anymore.
In 2014, the college advised police forces to record all 'non-crime hate incidents' - incidents that are perceived to be motivated by hostility but are not criminal offences.
The then Head of the police college was openly gay....allegedly.
Heard a true Wartime (WW11) story set in Wales - around midnight towards the end if the war a Policeman who knew the are around his town was told to "seek out" some German escaped prisoners. By good fortune he came across them in the darkness, about five I think, he blew his whistle and told them to raise their hands and march in front of him down the road back to the town and, eventually to the Police station. Oncce inside, with lights on they were mortified to find he had no gun or rifle!!! In those days as in England up until the late 1960's the Authority of the Police was feared! Experienced living in a small market town in the then Royal County of Berkshire a population of no more than three and a half thousand that swelled considerably on Market Day each month when all sorts of "dodgy deals" happened but with the "common wisdom" of the local Police Force there were many arrests!!! Living opposite the local Police station that served as the Magistrates Courts - the same villains were seen every Thursday following Market Day!!!
Policing crime on behalf of the individual, gets in the way of protecting the interests of the State.
Addressing Public Safety Concerns
As London’s population swelled from approximately one million in 1800 to over two million by 1850, crime rates surged. The old systems of policing could not cope with this increase. Peel recognized that a professional police force was essential for maintaining public order and safety. He believed that a centralized, organized police force would be more effective than the fragmented system that existed prior to his reforms.... Conclusion from the statement above is considering the London population is now 10m the police force has failed for whatever reason.. Tony cuenca
I think the police are disillusioned with the police.
I havent a clue where my local police station is. There were three within a few miles when I moved here is 2005 and now they have all been built over. Havent seen a police person on foot for years. They all seem to be in high vis jackets holding back protestors in other parts of the country.
Some of the blame also has to fall with the judicial system, lean sentencing, comfortable jails and hopeless CPS.
By Design, the left control the justice system, Starmer was head of the CPS. Thats what Karl Marx said. `Create chaos´ to destroy society so the left can bring in a new order, that doesnt include us. So wake up.
I was a copper for 30 years, mostly on the streets. I saw the way things were going and, while I could have stayed on, I decided to take the money and run. Luckily, I was able to get another job straight away as a university lecturer (I have a PhD in analytical linguistics).
It’s a joke, the police station in the village where I grew up is now a dental practice. It was in the heart of the village within walking distance of 6 or 7 seven public houses, now they have a phone box in a car park to go to.