Rathatrick: Did you know you can switch to melee mode when the arrow is still on the way? That way it will deal way more dmg. I discovered it in campaign to shoot down towers faster 11 I think this little trick in with that strat in the hands of a micro God can be strong.
Total damage output/minute is significantly higher with ranged form unless you are absolutely on top of a mass of enemy units. It also allows you to stay out of trouble easily. Pikes, TC, tower or castle fire, that kinda stuff. The best way to engage in a big fight is with a mixture of strong melee with ranged units behind. Not either melee or ranged.
I'm a month late to this video, but I love this new style...not sure if credit due to Tiramis or you direclty for trying something new, but the music and pacing make it a good viewer experience. Cheers to the red phosphoru Strat!
What do you think about doing the phosphoru with bulgarians? That way you would not need a castle for the unique unit but could do it with a krepost or do two kreposts?
Does the strategy work for regular CA? I think Huns, Magyars, Tatars, Japanese could do the same with their CA. They have mobility and high attack unlike Raw-th.
@@FatLittleButterfly I see. Maybe using the starting stone to stone wall your base can be an option? Or market despite costing 175 wood provides better value.
@@mubashirulmoula1798 You need market to click up to castle as fast as possible. Walling is bad, because you don't need to protect anything after you get the castle.
Watch tournaments eventually have to script gold spawns to be away from woodlines to prevent the castle from protecting your entire eco. That's the biggest issue with this build, going naked zero army has near zero penalty because even if you go archers to hit them (they'd quick wall wood/gold) the castle is up in a similar time window making the archer investment pointless. Be funny if nothing changes and the default is just both players going phosphru strat and cancelling each other out, due to a lack of controllable counters. A horrible map is basically the best counter against the strat.
F1Re's response was not the correct reaction. If he bought his way up to castle then did a mango/monk play it would have had significantly better results.
So how does the mirror strat match up? Is it who has better unique unit or better gold/wood map gen? If it becomes more prevalent I think it will be important to know
All in with UU. You don't need vils because you don't need food, that's why the castle goes on wood and gold. And it's not about bengalis, this strat works the same with a lot of civs.
Pick a civ with unique unit that spends gold and wood. Go fast castle, and then you focus all vills on wood and gold and pump out the unique unit. You will outproduce the enemy because you focus everything on only 2 resources.
Viper is wrong with his focus on Bengalis andvills, the strat would be even stronger if he didn't make so many vills in castle age. Notice how he doesn't have resources for bodkin because he keeps wasting food on making vills.
It's a bit of a compilation of the strat. I don't think I've seen the game against Lewis but I watched Hera's cast of the game against F1re and Viper's vid of the intro game when he was teal.
This will destroy the current meta so bad... Yesterday i played against this for the first time and its just so boring... I really hope there will be an easy counter to this soon, otherwise the ladder wont be any fun for a long time...
I like strategies that completly ignore the meta, it's nice having something different once in a while. Let's see if someone figures out a counter strategy. I wouldn't be surprised if Hera or Viper himself have some ideas... 🤔🙂
Hera said you basically have to scout their base to make sure it’s coming, then doing FC yourself and get monks. You could make extra TC and monk hop to defend, then win relic/eco game.
If you explore early, you can play very agressive on feudal age. Problem with F1re was he push when Viper had all for make castle. I guess you can block wood and gold with towers and delay for allow you up without lose.
If u try to call starcratf brood war players to play aoe2 u will see insane new builds for sure. New builds, counter plays, timeing attacks. Pls try to do some collaboration with some sc1 players. Win win situation.
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current meta: I lost three vills? that's fine. when you're under 30 pop
11 yes
tbf, it is with Bengalis in CA, so you are still +1 Vill ;)
Let's go Vipah! And Congrats on the kid!
Now that’s age of empires the way bill gates intended
Usually it's not until you're Viper's age that you struggle to find wood like Lewis does in G2.
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man i can't wait for this to be used in a high level tournament
The last game in this video (as Koreans) is a high level tournament. Hera covers that game in one of his latest vids.
Rathatrick: Did you know you can switch to melee mode when the arrow is still on the way? That way it will deal way more dmg.
I discovered it in campaign to shoot down towers faster 11
I think this little trick in with that strat in the hands of a micro God can be strong.
That was a while ago you did that right? I believe that was patched after release
@@coriakin532 hmm yes indeed, could be some weeks after dlc release
It's like what AlphaGo did to the Go chess
Viper, you are making me bust with this strat
Same here brosef
This will surely bust up the meta
Yo he just had a baby. You gotta wait for some time
@@hrishi_rao whose bust was it?😂
I appreciate the edit to speed the video up
So is the meta now everyone go all in on phosphoru and may the best man win?
The melee attack is so much higher I think that it should be the go to when fighting. Ranged is only better for certain situations
kt attack is higher than ca too, yet people play both units
@@dragovern 1 knight > 1 xbow
Total damage output/minute is significantly higher with ranged form unless you are absolutely on top of a mass of enemy units.
It also allows you to stay out of trouble easily. Pikes, TC, tower or castle fire, that kinda stuff.
The best way to engage in a big fight is with a mixture of strong melee with ranged units behind. Not either melee or ranged.
@@OytheGreat yeah I do switch between the two, but I tend to stay on the knight mode more often
still needed godlike micro to make it work.
I'm a month late to this video, but I love this new style...not sure if credit due to Tiramis or you direclty for trying something new, but the music and pacing make it a good viewer experience. Cheers to the red phosphoru Strat!
No food units, broken since 2002
Both extra vills on age up and the unique cavalry unit switching between ranged and melee attacks?
Must be AoE 2 Ayyubids
this strat showcases why the market is the best building in the game, it makes those fun weird stuff possible
GOAT The Viper ❤
You have become Phosphoru
Cheeser of Arabia
Great video! Congratulations for the baby snek!!!!!! :D
ultimate hoovering!
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What do you think about doing the phosphoru with bulgarians? That way you would not need a castle for the unique unit but could do it with a krepost or do two kreposts?
Konniks require food, leaving your base sprawling with silly farms and open to raids. The UU is to be fed on gold and wood only!
And now everyone will play like that? That’ll break the game
Nah this only works with people playing the current meta strategies
Does the strategy work for regular CA? I think Huns, Magyars, Tatars, Japanese could do the same with their CA. They have mobility and high attack unlike Raw-th.
you need the castle to protect the gold+wood income. So making wood+gold unit from the castle and snowball is the key to this strat
@@FatLittleButterfly I see. Maybe using the starting stone to stone wall your base can be an option? Or market despite costing 175 wood provides better value.
Phosphoru has all-in strats for many civs. Sicilians, Bengalis, Koreans, Portuguese, Hinudstanis, Malians, Romans ... even a tier list for that
@@mubashirulmoula1798 It will cost to much idl time
@@mubashirulmoula1798 You need market to click up to castle as fast as possible. Walling is bad, because you don't need to protect anything after you get the castle.
Shouldn't trushing the stone counter this?
Stone can be walled too easily to counter trush
Watch tournaments eventually have to script gold spawns to be away from woodlines to prevent the castle from protecting your entire eco. That's the biggest issue with this build, going naked zero army has near zero penalty because even if you go archers to hit them (they'd quick wall wood/gold) the castle is up in a similar time window making the archer investment pointless.
Be funny if nothing changes and the default is just both players going phosphru strat and cancelling each other out, due to a lack of controllable counters. A horrible map is basically the best counter against the strat.
F1Re's response was not the correct reaction. If he bought his way up to castle then did a mango/monk play it would have had significantly better results.
Hi viper. Congratulations on the lil snek
Did he upgrade hes scouts?
So how does the mirror strat match up? Is it who has better unique unit or better gold/wood map gen?
If it becomes more prevalent I think it will be important to know
What is the idea of this strat? Is it about the UU or the free vils? cuz Bengalies dont have great eco that i know of
All in with UU. You don't need vils because you don't need food, that's why the castle goes on wood and gold. And it's not about bengalis, this strat works the same with a lot of civs.
Pick a civ with unique unit that spends gold and wood. Go fast castle, and then you focus all vills on wood and gold and pump out the unique unit. You will outproduce the enemy because you focus everything on only 2 resources.
Viper is wrong with his focus on Bengalis andvills, the strat would be even stronger if he didn't make so many vills in castle age. Notice how he doesn't have resources for bodkin because he keeps wasting food on making vills.
rip Macro gameplay💀
Reupload? I'm sure i saw this on UA-cam.
It's a bit of a compilation of the strat. I don't think I've seen the game against Lewis but I watched Hera's cast of the game against F1re and Viper's vid of the intro game when he was teal.
@@philhull6606 Oh there was multiple matches? I guess I'll skip to that part of the video then.
Please play age of mythology retold
This will destroy the current meta so bad...
Yesterday i played against this for the first time and its just so boring... I really hope there will be an easy counter to this soon, otherwise the ladder wont be any fun for a long time...
I like strategies that completly ignore the meta, it's nice having something different once in a while. Let's see if someone figures out a counter strategy. I wouldn't be surprised if Hera or Viper himself have some ideas... 🤔🙂
Hera said you basically have to scout their base to make sure it’s coming, then doing FC yourself and get monks. You could make extra TC and monk hop to defend, then win relic/eco game.
If you explore early, you can play very agressive on feudal age. Problem with F1re was he push when Viper had all for make castle. I guess you can block wood and gold with towers and delay for allow you up without lose.
Raiding helps ^^
ELO?
time for market nerf
Just counter this by stonewalling at home
It is too quick, you would need to switch your eco to stone early and you might nlt have enough stone, unless you have a very small area to wall
Who else is planning to abuse this?
Why no one calls this Glass Cannon strat?
Cause the castle makes it hard to do damage against you. So it’s not really very glass like.
Because Phosphoru created it and it is beautiful that it got his name
Pls Vyiper Try it with Spanish!
I may be wrong, but I think conqs cost food, a key part of this strategy is that the UU cost wood and gold only
If u try to call starcratf brood war players to play aoe2 u will see insane new builds for sure. New builds, counter plays, timeing attacks. Pls try to do some collaboration with some sc1 players. Win win situation.
I start to do that a year ago...send to t90 but he didnt see... a knight that cost wood is super broken
I am 1.7k so i cant play perfectly as pros
Noooo why did you do this now they will nerf my beloved bengalis!!!!!!!
Bengalis? This strat works the same with more than half of the civs, bengalis aren't even the best...
Viper lost to me when using this strat, he didn’t show that video…
you show the video then
@@Pyroclasm1338 ok, I will try to get it from Viper, but not sure if he is willing to release it.
Yea show the video
@@claytonknowles25 #，video::”