This kind of thing isn't "forgotten" at all! As a DJ who has a scraped-together cheap AF modular setup, I've encountered my fair share of extremely *strange* ancient DJ mixers that had features like "punch boxes" and "cut buttons." I personally find zero use to such features but it's interesting to see such things
I bought the Numark ttx back in 2003. And just barely learned you can change positions on the pitch. 17 years later I learn something new. I still have the ttx's stored away.
Man, love the DJ knowledge! Although I don’t use my TTXs as much as I used to, I don’t think I will ever get rid of them unless someone makes me a great offer. So many features on the TTXs that you just don’t see on other turntables. Start stop adjustment was one that wasn’t mentioned. Keep the videos coming!
12:38 Even to this day, Numark DJ controllers still sport pitch bend control buttons. On my NV2, I mapped those buttons to change the key via the Serato Pitch 'N Time DJ Plugin ;).
From what I remember, "intimidation" were the first brand to bring out kill switches, first as rack unit, then they released "the Don 2" and "blue" mixer with kill switches built in.
Wow, thank you for the trip down memory lane. Ive used the free floating turntable (blow up and springs on the table cutout). Also the “Transformer” buttons and the EQ kill switches. I have two to add a “BPM counter watch” where you would tap out the BPMs will paining. Also a rack mountable “BPM counter” upto 4 RCAs in/out that would go between the table and the mixer to give you an auto BPM reading for upto 4 devices.
Thanks watching the video! Regarding BPM counters. They still exist. They're just now built into the media player or mixer, not to mention it's built into the song analysis of the DJ software. I feel they have evolved and improved over time and we are still using them in a modern incarnation.
Sorry to correct you on one statement. Keylock for vinyl apears early on Stanton turntables (check STR8-100 or ST-100) and we played with this turntable in 2002, so I'm not sure about the release date. Numark is NOT the first DJ turntable to feature a keylock function.
The Gemini PDT6000 is a worthy collectors item in its own right. Much rarer than technics with unique spec that beats the tech's and many other modern decks. It also serves equally well as an audiophile deck as well as a dj deck. Do your research and If you can find one, buy it keep it love it, they are the golden eggs that Gemini laid for djs along with their much respected UMX mixer range.
I had the TTX and Tascam CD player. I miss them. I also had dual tape deck with pitch control but I can't remember the make and model. I think it was a Denon?
The pitch bend control was actually a great improvement on vinyl control when mixing techno records, push a bit or slow down a bit with those buttons makes the transition way smoother. A friend of mine had a T120C by Stanton and it was a really good turntable. At that time i was mixing on technics sl-1200's and found them really boring without this feature.
Not sure if it has already been said but you can pitch bend with the technic 1200’s. Using the 33/45 buttons. Holding the 33 and pushing the 45 would speed it up and holding the 45 and pushing the 33 would slow it down.
Unfortunately, that only allows one direction of bend. If you’re playing 33, you can only go up when using the 45 button and vice versa. But glad you mentioned it!
Very informative. Never even heard of some of these decks and I was DJing since the late 90s, albeit mostly a house dj but I was heavy into scratching.
bpm counters still exist. It's not a main feature of mixers, but usually mixers with beat FX will have them and display the bpm. Pioneer mixers still have these.
great video and trip down memory lane! did you consider any of the Intimidation mixers in your list ? The don, Don2 , blue and apex were pretty ground breaking in their time.
Was hoping to see the RedSound Infader with it's "trifader" module in your video. It gave you an independent crosfader for each low, mids and highs. Also had transform buttons that would reverse the position of all 3 faders, an effects loop with a two way paddle switch (on/momentary), and a switch to disable the trifader and allow traditional single crosfader mixing. The trifader was removable, and they originally intended to make other modules available with new features like a sampler or effects, etc. It was also one of the first digital mixers that I remember. Another cool device I didn't see in your video was the reverse mod chips that would install on the 1200 motherboard and enable reverse by double tapping the start button. These were a lot of fun paired with the trifader. You could have a reverse kick playing on one turntable with the mids and highs playing normally on the other record. Hitting the transform button would reverse it so the kick was forward, and mids/highs were backwards. If you had vocals on one track, you could leave the mids fader in the middle and keep vocals intelligible while swapping/alternating the direction of kicks and hats. Add a Kaoss Pad to the effects loop and you could really get creative.
Floaties (free floats) are still about nowadays they were phased out as other better solutions exist. Kill Switches - two friends had different mixers both with these on. Man I loved them, not sure why they got phased out.
I have that same NuMark as I watch this...I just brought it back out a few months ago after yrs of not using it nor spin'n! I never ready got into the KEYLOCK thang...I will NOW to see what is up with it! Lol...
The TTM1 was a little too late for its time (well at-least when I purchased a pair in 2007). If they came out in the mid-late 90s (along with the Mixwell CD-DJ1 - which was a pretty affordable CDJ), they would be deemed revolutionary. I converted to DVS 3 years later, but still had/have use for the TTM1 and CD-DJ1 by using time-coded CDs for the DVS.
me again...haha. another fascinating video, RIP Vestax!! hope to see them come back strong asap. I'm pretty sure phase is some other sort of radio waves not bluetooth, bluetooth's packet size and buffer size is what causes its latency issues
Vestax have been back for a while now, The original owner re started the company under the new name of STP Vestax, They can be found on facebook, So far they have released a beautiful new mixer called the phoenix and an amplifer, The mixer costs around 7 grand unfortunately .
@@ellicopter1 yeah I know. They are real high end audiophile gear now. I was meaning hope to see them doing more readily available consumer level gear. Their parting shot with the vci380 was and still is one of the best controllers out there.
I just wish the phase device was thiner so I could still twist the centre platter pin, it could be as wide as a credit card to house the electronics giving us access to the pin!
OMG I have the same green gemini mixer and just removed it from my studio desk, up the attic it goes. I had the full rack width version of that same green mixer.
Vestax pdx needed the pitch bend button if you wanted to mix of them because they had floating platters on them, if you thumb the platter on a 1210 liek you do if you beat mix you can feel the torque of the motor, on a floating platter which are good for cuts this doesn't happen the platter stops and provides no resistance thus the pitch bend was needed
I had one of those in 1995! We used to hook the line level input up to the TV and would get samples from watching the TV show Cops. Then we would save them up and slow them down or speed them up and play them over house records cI remember my best one was a cop I. Florida taking a guy in for drug possession “you are getting 3-5 for possession of the rock”
Very interesting video ... (promptly shared on our Deep & Tech House Group on FB ) (please don't include the background Rock Music... it's quite disturbingly annoying !)
could you please just look into the camera and prepare a bit better for ever shot?? thx so much! (or at least use sunglasses if you need a teleprompter)
Keep looking on eBay for a cheap one that says buy now and free returns in 30 days. Learn how to repair them they are easy to fix I wouldn't be surprise if they remove the tonearms just to use with phase but if mk2s are working get them around 300 to 500 bills. peace out.
The tascam cds controller sucked ass the wheels slipped a bit of you scratch or juggled so your clock marks would go off and for some reason if you burned a CD yourself when you played it back it would randomly stutter like the CD was scratched even though it wasn't and it would throw your mix out
What kind of turntables did you have? They were pretty stable on my 1200, but my PT 1000 might have been an issue cause the light outlet was in the way. I didn't have many issues scratching with it (and I don't really beat juggle nor backspin).
You guys are correct, I stand corrected. Phase is not Bluetooth.
but it is 2.4ghz right?
I miss my flashformer! I can't believe how much DJ technology has moved on since the mid 80's
This kind of thing isn't "forgotten" at all! As a DJ who has a scraped-together cheap AF modular setup, I've encountered my fair share of extremely *strange* ancient DJ mixers that had features like "punch boxes" and "cut buttons." I personally find zero use to such features but it's interesting to see such things
My Xone 32 has them. The thing is, there is NOTHING new out with them.
I bought the Numark ttx back in 2003. And just barely learned you can change positions on the pitch. 17 years later I learn something new. I still have the ttx's stored away.
those vestax turntables are so 90s , I love them
I still think the TTX-1 is my favorite turntable of all time, it was so ahead of the game at the time
epic list. what a trip back in time man. I remember most of these. had never seen that turntable guitar though... such cool tech that went away... 😭
Man, love the DJ knowledge! Although I don’t use my TTXs as much as I used to, I don’t think I will ever get rid of them unless someone makes me a great offer. So many features on the TTXs that you just don’t see on other turntables. Start stop adjustment was one that wasn’t mentioned. Keep the videos coming!
12:38 Even to this day, Numark DJ controllers still sport pitch bend control buttons. On my NV2, I mapped those buttons to change the key via the Serato Pitch 'N Time DJ Plugin ;).
From what I remember, "intimidation" were the first brand to bring out kill switches, first as rack unit, then they released "the Don 2" and "blue" mixer with kill switches built in.
The Blue was my first mixer. Only weird thing about it was it was mono!
My DDM4000 has kill switches. They are toggle buttons that light up when the kill is on.
That was super fun a well curated walk down memory lane.
Thanks for watching!
Wow, thank you for the trip down memory lane. Ive used the free floating turntable (blow up and springs on the table cutout). Also the “Transformer” buttons and the EQ kill switches. I have two to add a “BPM counter watch” where you would tap out the BPMs will paining. Also a rack mountable “BPM counter” upto 4 RCAs in/out that would go between the table and the mixer to give you an auto BPM reading for upto 4 devices.
Thanks watching the video! Regarding BPM counters. They still exist. They're just now built into the media player or mixer, not to mention it's built into the song analysis of the DJ software. I feel they have evolved and improved over time and we are still using them in a modern incarnation.
Sorry to correct you on one statement. Keylock for vinyl apears early on Stanton turntables (check STR8-100 or ST-100) and we played with this turntable in 2002, so I'm not sure about the release date. Numark is NOT the first DJ turntable to feature a keylock function.
I use punch buttons for scratching to prevent wearing out my crossfader took me ages to find a mixer with them on
Great Vid..
Took me back to the Real DJ era.
Very informative. . .
The Gemini PDT6000 is a worthy collectors item in its own right. Much rarer than technics with unique spec that beats the tech's and many other modern decks. It also serves equally well as an audiophile deck as well as a dj deck. Do your research and If you can find one, buy it keep it love it, they are the golden eggs that Gemini laid for djs along with their much respected UMX mixer range.
i miss those days as i started to dj in 00'
I had the TTX and Tascam CD player. I miss them. I also had dual tape deck with pitch control but I can't remember the make and model. I think it was a Denon?
Sir, Thanks for the commentary on that.
No problem, thanks for watching!
TTX was so ahead of its time .. I should have kept mine!
I forgot that I have the silver QFO still pretty new in the box! Sitting up in my closet!
The pitch bend control was actually a great improvement on vinyl control when mixing techno records, push a bit or slow down a bit with those buttons makes the transition way smoother. A friend of mine had a T120C by Stanton and it was a really good turntable. At that time i was mixing on technics sl-1200's and found them really boring without this feature.
Not sure if it has already been said but you can pitch bend with the technic 1200’s. Using the 33/45 buttons. Holding the 33 and pushing the 45 would speed it up and holding the 45 and pushing the 33 would slow it down.
Unfortunately, that only allows one direction of bend. If you’re playing 33, you can only go up when using the 45 button and vice versa. But glad you mentioned it!
Very informative. Never even heard of some of these decks and I was DJing since the late 90s, albeit mostly a house dj but I was heavy into scratching.
Gemini had a bpm machine in the 90's that hooked up in between the turntable and mixer...
bpm counters still exist. It's not a main feature of mixers, but usually mixers with beat FX will have them and display the bpm. Pioneer mixers still have these.
Funny how those of us forget about those mixers of the 90’s.
90s mixers were weird ngl
great video and trip down memory lane! did you consider any of the Intimidation mixers in your list ? The don, Don2 , blue and apex were pretty ground breaking in their time.
Great video, I never knew about those products! Thanks!!
You were right about the
things.I'm not a deejay just someone who enjoys
playing records.
Great video bro. I remember a lot of these. Trip down memory lane.
Was hoping to see the RedSound Infader with it's "trifader" module in your video. It gave you an independent crosfader for each low, mids and highs. Also had transform buttons that would reverse the position of all 3 faders, an effects loop with a two way paddle switch (on/momentary), and a switch to disable the trifader and allow traditional single crosfader mixing. The trifader was removable, and they originally intended to make other modules available with new features like a sampler or effects, etc. It was also one of the first digital mixers that I remember.
Another cool device I didn't see in your video was the reverse mod chips that would install on the 1200 motherboard and enable reverse by double tapping the start button. These were a lot of fun paired with the trifader. You could have a reverse kick playing on one turntable with the mids and highs playing normally on the other record. Hitting the transform button would reverse it so the kick was forward, and mids/highs were backwards. If you had vocals on one track, you could leave the mids fader in the middle and keep vocals intelligible while swapping/alternating the direction of kicks and hats. Add a Kaoss Pad to the effects loop and you could really get creative.
Light Fantastik I believe the DJM-2000 has frequency crossfaders but on the touch screen.
@@priyonjoni yeah, but it's not the same as a touchstrip. I like that they tried to evolve the concept though.
Before hamster switches were introduced, Do you remember the ITF and DMC battles, Certain DJs connected a hamster switch box on top of the mixer?
DJ AUDIO1 I remember the hamster boxes!
I have 4 of them still use them. Works great plug in a sampler and cdj. Than I can mix vinyl in either deck and mix to cdj or djs1000.
Floaties (free floats) are still about nowadays they were phased out as other better solutions exist. Kill
Switches - two friends had different mixers both with these on. Man I loved them, not sure why they got phased out.
Very informative respect from South Africa
Tooo right 💯💯💯💯💯✔️brilliant video
I have that same NuMark as I watch this...I just brought it back out a few months ago after yrs of not using it nor spin'n! I never ready got into the KEYLOCK thang...I will NOW to see what is up with it! Lol...
What's the background track?
The Vestax Controller 1 was a incredible piece of gear
Sad to see that good ideas get buried
Some things just have a time and place in history. But we always have to move forward.
I still cut wax on a Vestax pmc 06, original fader I shaved down and modified cuts better than most optical faders, too bad their not made anymore
The TTM1 was a little too late for its time (well at-least when I purchased a pair in 2007). If they came out in the mid-late 90s (along with the Mixwell CD-DJ1 - which was a pretty affordable CDJ), they would be deemed revolutionary. I converted to DVS 3 years later, but still had/have use for the TTM1 and CD-DJ1 by using time-coded CDs for the DVS.
me again...haha. another fascinating video, RIP Vestax!! hope to see them come back strong asap. I'm pretty sure phase is some other sort of radio waves not bluetooth, bluetooth's packet size and buffer size is what causes its latency issues
Vestax have been back for a while now, The original owner re started the company under the new name of STP Vestax, They can be found on facebook, So far they have released a beautiful new mixer called the phoenix and an amplifer, The mixer costs around 7 grand unfortunately .
@@ellicopter1 yeah I know. They are real high end audiophile gear now. I was meaning hope to see them doing more readily available consumer level gear. Their parting shot with the vci380 was and still is one of the best controllers out there.
I just wish the phase device was thiner so I could still twist the centre platter pin, it could be as wide as a credit card to house the electronics giving us access to the pin!
use software please
OMG I have the same green gemini mixer and just removed it from my studio desk, up the attic it goes. I had the full rack width version of that same green mixer.
Kill switches were pretty handy
What is the rad song in the background of this?!
" Bro I'am so glad you are doing the history here for us all to witness ..I'am so lucky held on to my Numark TT200 ..
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I had a pair of those too!
I picked up a second hand Vestax PCV-175 on eBay to use in my 'B' DJ setup
Are what about that tryangle you connected to your decks? Im sure it had 4 buttons to save samples 2 scrach with?
Great video.
Yes but I like things build like tanks and mixers built like instruments
What's about Techniques turntable that had a CD slot to play CDs as Vinyl?
It didn’t play vinyl.
@@priyonjoni well growing up, it looked like it. Lol
Man Vestax was a great with its products like Mixers and Turntable. I only wish that analog mixers would make a comeback how about you?
I'll put an innofader in one, Mines made in Japan
that was good
Does anyone remember the Vestax Samurai Series Mixers?
...those had awesome faders! And sick red color lol
Don't forget the Peavey Grabber!!
I need a refresher. What was that?
Im a turntablist and still haven't found a purpose for quatrz lock on dj turntables???
my purpose to make them sound like jet airplanes
Before the Rane 12, Numark had the X2
Before that, they had the CDX.
Pri yon Joni true but the X2 was way better the CDX
yeah but long term using , motor would burn
Vestax pdx needed the pitch bend button if you wanted to mix of them because they had floating platters on them, if you thumb the platter on a 1210 liek you do if you beat mix you can feel the torque of the motor, on a floating platter which are good for cuts this doesn't happen the platter stops and provides no resistance thus the pitch bend was needed
I have a gemini pdt 6000 and goes hard for scratching..
Dude. You totally forgot about voice/mic samplers from the 90's. Gemini had a couple of real good ones...
I had one of those in 1995! We used to hook the line level input up to the TV and would get samples from watching the TV show Cops. Then we would save them up and slow them down or speed them up and play them over house records cI remember my best one was a cop I. Florida taking a guy in for drug possession “you are getting 3-5 for possession of the rock”
Ima call you tha Dj Pastor lol ....🔥🔥🔥
dj foot fingerz lol
Who Invented the battle position?
Great question! May need to research this one.
It's easier when the pitch slide is side to side you just tap it for extra fine adjustments
True Dat
Yes like original mk2s
Very interesting video ... (promptly shared on our Deep & Tech House Group on FB )
(please don't include the background Rock Music... it's quite disturbingly annoying !)
what about turntable weights? on the record to keep it down and a stable tempo
And I think to stop needle jumping and rumble
8:16 aaand what turntables is that?
My Stanton ST150 s have keylock.. Useful up to 4% range when changing tempo but beyond that sound quality diminishes and artefacts will appear.
Flash also used the executioner mixer on the Chris Rock show on hbo in the 90s
Numark X2 Hybrid Turntables
And i still have my TTX.
Teleprompters work.
you are wrong. the RP 8000 can do they independet Keylock stuff it and it was released already when you published this video.
Would you sell that kil mixer executioner or etc I’d pay u good money plz respond
nope sorry, this was my first mixer. I'm actually having it refurbished and modified with an innofader so I can use it again.
Nice video, proper remember a lot of this stuff.
FYI worth changing you're background porno music
"You're" ?
great video , background music became un bearable , so couldnt finish the video , shame ,
Welp! 🤷🏽♂️
I like kill switches and punch buttons
Whats the name “Killar switch"
This goes to show how much Gemini was kicking ass.. then became a junk joke!
could you please just look into the camera and prepare a bit better for ever shot?? thx so much! (or at least use sunglasses if you need a teleprompter)
I had ttm1...with the 1700...
Yo man I cant find a technics 1200 for a price I can afford do you care for selling me one if yours?
I was thinking 200 euros tops.
Better off on a mk5 or better, better motor
Keep looking on eBay for a cheap one that says buy now and free returns in 30 days. Learn how to repair them they are easy to fix I wouldn't be surprise if they remove the tonearms just to use with phase but if mk2s are working get them around 300 to 500 bills. peace out.
Alesis Air fx
Guitars v. turntables.
I'm buying the phase
might as well
Hope that last a long time & you can use tons of slip mats with them I bet.
are'nt people still using the phase?
Yes, but that wasn’t phase that was mentioned in the video.
The tascam cds controller sucked ass the wheels slipped a bit of you scratch or juggled so your clock marks would go off and for some reason if you burned a CD yourself when you played it back it would randomly stutter like the CD was scratched even though it wasn't and it would throw your mix out
What kind of turntables did you have? They were pretty stable on my 1200, but my PT 1000 might have been an issue cause the light outlet was in the way. I didn't have many issues scratching with it (and I don't really beat juggle nor backspin).
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I want a scratchocaster so bad!!! Uuugghhh!!!
Use a technics and phase
I gues that sony and denon minidisc players are also in this list and obsolete due to minidisc end of life
Phase is not bluetooth
what ever it is I bet they feel like the reel to reel thang.
@@DJMillionRecords They're radio controlled (like remote control cars).
The early 90s porno style music playing in the background all through the video was just annoying.
The song is titled “Scrambled Cable Channel”