How is it even possible to be 4 episodes into a show and for there to be no longterm conflict? Just so we're clear, conflict doesn't necessarily have to be a literal conflict (ie "the world is in danger, again"). It can be a personal conflict, ie learning to accept a new phase of life. But any chance of them even doing that is already gone considering she already found her balance between Jenn/She Hulk in literally the first episode.
@@EsEN101 Maybe the Simpsons, but the Office absolutely had longterm conflicts, both literal conflicts (ie DM going bankrupt) and personal conflicts among characters (ie Jim and Pam's relationship). She Hulk had NONE of that.
Great video, I’m always looking forward to more of your work. Haven’t seen the show yet and don’t really have any interest since the other Disney plus shows haven’t really been to my liking.
She Hulk has been incredibly frustrating. She Hulk could have had a very easy comic related reason why Bruce struggled with his control of the Hulk. Linking the trauma of his childhood creating an alter ego being the antithesis of what Bruce normally was. Adding further context to his soul searching pre end game.
I'm a fan of this show and your content, so I was a bit bummed to see the title of this video. But, I watched it and I can definitely see where you are coming from. I thought She Hulk, the show, provided an interesting motivation for our protagonist to turn into She Hulk (the legal system punishing her for saving the jury - that was interesting) and I figured the blatant mysoginy was a reflection of the reality of what women have to deal with today. Yes, it is overt and yes it could be handled with more subtletly but it happens to this day to women every day in this way, shape, and form. That being said, I never considered the fact the show doesn't trust the audience enough to "show" instead of "telling." I'd be curious to know what feminists, female-centered shows/movies you think tackle the themes She Hulk tries to do in a better way? Are there examples of other stories that do it better? This video is the most convincing one I've seen at laying out the show's flaws but the majority of the criticism I've seen online just seems to boil down to the sexist comments the show highlights (like, "why cant it be Hulk's show" "this is too woke" or "twerking = bad"). Are there examples of other stories out there that approach this conversation better? I thought the show did a better job than Cpt. Marvel.
I think The Boys is a perfect example of how to deal with these issues in a funny yet grounded way. They also repeatedly show Marvel how to create strong female characters without pandering. Tbf it's hard to comment on these nuanced issues in a PG sitcom format. But it's not like She-Hulk is doing anything new. It's all been done a million times before, which is why it turns me off so much. It would be one thing if this show took any risks at all, but saying "sexism bad" in 2022 is not enough of a novel take imo
The Boys is a great example I didn't even consider. And you're right about the format and the message/timing of it all. Appreciate the response. I'll continue watching and hoping for something better. Now I just hope Wakanda Forever escapes this Phase 4 curse.
Even though this show's main focus isn't just feminisim, I feel like Bojack Horseman has had some pretty amazing episodes that tackle the subject especially with the MeToo movement in Hollywood
Everything woman doesn't like at the moment is considered sexist. Same applies to racism. - Whatever black people don't like at the moment is racist. It's funny that the show complains about sexism and at the same time objectifies women with the idiotic twerking scene.
As someone who is black that statement is "special" as they call it now a days, it all comes down to a choice on rather or not someone chooses to feel offended, I don't believe a white person should feel like he/she owes a black person anything now a days, if we're going to move forward we need to stop living in the past
"She-Hulk isn't bad because it's woke. It's bad because it uses values as a crutch", tbh imho, that's what woke is (MentisWave has good videos on this). People aren't so good at defining what woke is, but I think what people are intending to mean is excessive focus on identity or identity politics. And what you're describing is exactly the kinds of issues woke can cause for a show. Good video though.
art and entertainment are subjective... this just boils down to your not liking the show... which the only one who cares about this is you... and all that matters is a lot of us do like the show....
I've heard that from some friends. At this point its whether or not I'm interested tbh. There's a slot of God stuff to watch and this phase of the MCU is losing me
Nice work, mate! Just finished doing the voice recording for my episode 4 wokedown. It's not top of the wokes anymore, but it's one of the wokest out there!
How is it even possible to be 4 episodes into a show and for there to be no longterm conflict?
Just so we're clear, conflict doesn't necessarily have to be a literal conflict (ie "the world is in danger, again"). It can be a personal conflict, ie learning to accept a new phase of life. But any chance of them even doing that is already gone considering she already found her balance between Jenn/She Hulk in literally the first episode.
There are so many episodic shows like that. That doesn’t necessarily make it bad. Look at the office, Simpsons, friends, etc.
@@EsEN101 Maybe the Simpsons, but the Office absolutely had longterm conflicts, both literal conflicts (ie DM going bankrupt) and personal conflicts among characters (ie Jim and Pam's relationship).
She Hulk had NONE of that.
In my opinion Shang Chi was the only decent film in phase 4.
No Way Home too ofc
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this is by far the best review of this show ive seen, excited to see how your Chanel grows.
every disney+ show feels like it retcons stuff for no reason and introduces stuff to not do anything with it
What did you think of Moon Knight? I thought that one was pretty good, quite possibly the best thing about Phase 4 except maybe No Way Home.
I liked Loki better. Moon Knight was fine but it feels like "good" or phase 4 would have been among the worst of the first 3 phases
You forgot how they made Wong a pure Joker.
Great video, I’m always looking forward to more of your work. Haven’t seen the show yet and don’t really have any interest since the other Disney plus shows haven’t really been to my liking.
She Hulk has been incredibly frustrating. She Hulk could have had a very easy comic related reason why Bruce struggled with his control of the Hulk. Linking the trauma of his childhood creating an alter ego being the antithesis of what Bruce normally was. Adding further context to his soul searching pre end game.
Are you planning to do a video on house of the dragon?
Probably, but I'm behind on it atm. Been a busy summer for me
I'm a fan of this show and your content, so I was a bit bummed to see the title of this video. But, I watched it and I can definitely see where you are coming from. I thought She Hulk, the show, provided an interesting motivation for our protagonist to turn into She Hulk (the legal system punishing her for saving the jury - that was interesting) and I figured the blatant mysoginy was a reflection of the reality of what women have to deal with today. Yes, it is overt and yes it could be handled with more subtletly but it happens to this day to women every day in this way, shape, and form. That being said, I never considered the fact the show doesn't trust the audience enough to "show" instead of "telling." I'd be curious to know what feminists, female-centered shows/movies you think tackle the themes She Hulk tries to do in a better way? Are there examples of other stories that do it better? This video is the most convincing one I've seen at laying out the show's flaws but the majority of the criticism I've seen online just seems to boil down to the sexist comments the show highlights (like, "why cant it be Hulk's show" "this is too woke" or "twerking = bad"). Are there examples of other stories out there that approach this conversation better? I thought the show did a better job than Cpt. Marvel.
I think The Boys is a perfect example of how to deal with these issues in a funny yet grounded way. They also repeatedly show Marvel how to create strong female characters without pandering.
Tbf it's hard to comment on these nuanced issues in a PG sitcom format. But it's not like She-Hulk is doing anything new. It's all been done a million times before, which is why it turns me off so much. It would be one thing if this show took any risks at all, but saying "sexism bad" in 2022 is not enough of a novel take imo
The Boys is a great example I didn't even consider. And you're right about the format and the message/timing of it all. Appreciate the response. I'll continue watching and hoping for something better.
Now I just hope Wakanda Forever escapes this Phase 4 curse.
Even though this show's main focus isn't just feminisim, I feel like Bojack Horseman has had some pretty amazing episodes that tackle the subject especially with the MeToo movement in Hollywood
The Invisible Man was a great movie about a woman surviving an abusive relationship.
This show is crap tho.
This show is so bad but ironically it’s more tolerable then any other mcu show besides moon knight but the newest episode made ghost rider canon
Hawkeye was all about him saving her.
Everything woman doesn't like at the moment is considered sexist. Same applies to racism. - Whatever black people don't like at the moment is racist. It's funny that the show complains about sexism and at the same time objectifies women with the idiotic twerking scene.
As someone who is black that statement is "special" as they call it now a days, it all comes down to a choice on rather or not someone chooses to feel offended, I don't believe a white person should feel like he/she owes a black person anything now a days, if we're going to move forward we need to stop living in the past
"She-Hulk isn't bad because it's woke. It's bad because it uses values as a crutch", tbh imho, that's what woke is (MentisWave has good videos on this). People aren't so good at defining what woke is, but I think what people are intending to mean is excessive focus on identity or identity politics. And what you're describing is exactly the kinds of issues woke can cause for a show. Good video though.
I highly recommend Fleabag . Its like shehulk . But good and actually funny
art and entertainment are subjective... this just boils down to your not liking the show... which the only one who cares about this is you... and all that matters is a lot of us do like the show....
Great video! She Hulk is the dream toxic, lazy feminist show making fun of men while degrading women. It was not supposed to make money.
I haven’t seen either ms marvel or she hulk and really only watched Loki but I would rather watch she hulk than ms marvel
Good video.
I love the show. It's good dumb fun
Ms Marvel is way better then she-hulk. give it a shot!
I've heard that from some friends. At this point its whether or not I'm interested tbh. There's a slot of God stuff to watch and this phase of the MCU is losing me
Marvel is finished
No, at least not just yet
I've never watched a movie/series so bad like She-Hulk which btw doesn't have a real logical ending!! WTF!!
Nice work, mate! Just finished doing the voice recording for my episode 4 wokedown. It's not top of the wokes anymore, but it's one of the wokest out there!
How original…
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad
Bruh this is the best disney plus series
Hahaha, oh your serious? In that case 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad