Agree and thought the same thing. It reminds me of a badass fighter that doesn’t need to do anything ( like yell boast etc. Just calmly take care of business. The scariest type. Kinda like Cauliflower ears . Don’t mess with and provoke😂
So many of us that are restricted by square range rules seldom, if ever, test our reaction times and hand speeds with live fire. We are slow because our minds and bodies have never been taught how fast they can really be. Your break downs in this video give a methodology for each individual to measure and improve this area of our defensive shooting skills in dry and live fire practice. You and John compliment each other well in your training styles. Thank you both.
My range has tons of rules that forbid many of the things you need to practice. I don't use the range that much (low on ammo). At home, I do draw and dry-fire practice with a laser setup. It actually helps my speed and aim.
I prefer using high quality, all metal frame/slide/mags, green gas powered, airsoft clones. I have a Sig p226 and HK p30 that have the same feel and similar weight as the real things with reciprocating slides that provide enough recoil impulse to flip the muzzle. They have good accuracy, velocity, and cardboard hole punching power out to 15+ yards. I like them better than the lazer systems I have used. During 2020, dry fire and air soft were 90% of my practice. (I have built indoor and outdoor airsoft/bb/pellet ranges.)These days, I do about 1/3rd live fire, 1/3rd dry fire, and 1/3rd airsoft and I get in 500 to 1,000 rep's total per month.
@@XRinger I'm lucky, my range allows draw, rapid fire and has programable target carriers (AC in the bays as well). Because the drills are broken up with draw and fire, I use a LOT less ammo. Still have a big stash, but can easily limit myself to 25 rounds of center fire and another 50 of rim and have a full session.
I see from some of the comments that the point of the video was missed completely.... What a wonderful world the internet has become. 🙄 Thank you for an informative video with info on how to break down the time segments of a draw and focus in on which areas need to be improved.
Central Washington University did a study involving video game players and no video game players reaction times (male and female). A male who plays video games had a mean reaction time that was 55.15 milliseconds faster than that of a male who didn't play video games. Male to female difference was minor at about 2 to 3 milliseconds. I wanted to look into this because I remember watching some experiments a while back that showed the difference between someone who plays video games infrequently, frequently, and in a professional capacity which presented significant difference there as well (some of which might be genetics but part of it was definitely do to age and level of practice in terms of the task as they had a former pro compete against a current pro). I find interesting that there might actually be a benefit to playing games that test your brains ability to react, and I wonder if there would be a difference between someone who only trains shooting, and someone who plays video games and shoots. It would be difficult to test as it would require two people of about equal skill level... Just something that crossed my mind as he was explaining reaction times.
Starting with your hand on the gun gives the advantage to aiwb, since your hand is naturally closer to 3:00 at rest. And 0.1 seconds matters far less than all the other factors you mention. Awareness, clearing the cover garment, are you able to get a good grip on the gun.
At 8:20- this is exactly why I haven't switched to appendix. "I occasionally compete" - ok- so where does joe civilian get his training/pressure testing? Competition. This is the same reason why I don't compete with a full size hand cannon... I use the sub that I pack. Don't care how far back I'm placing- I'm improving my real life conceal carry.
You had a lotta muscular tension in your arm waiting for the beep on strong side draws would bet that accounts for the time delta - like when you try to muscle a heavy clean or snatch and that muscular tension prevents you from being able to make the catch, does that analogy make sense? GREAT point on how a quick efficient neuromuscular pathway grooved in feels slow; when I broke the 1.1sec barrier for 1st rd hits it felt like a mad scramble racing to still make sure it was sub 1.5 sec std & started heeling my shots.....of course as the designated demo guy while attending a restricted class, and the instructor was saying I was coming off the sights so I cranked a medulla shot off even faster then realized where the technical error was. IME the competition stuff carries over very significantly (ignoring the gamesmanship) having repeated Jeff Gonzales’ experiment on running a HR monitor in a couple competitions and finding the competition stress pushed it higher than as recorded during several subsequent engagements (application - physiological stress acclimation, like hot seat is for the mind) and see Travis Hailey’s work applying sports perf science. Had been wanting one of these dry fire training devices just ordered.....think an app using video and analyzing the biomechanics & speed of motion like some of us use in the gym would be an awesome thing that would probly cover a lot of the gap your working on. Great stuff keep up the good work!
Edited to add: In flight safety/training measurement watched a presentation where the speaker said paraphrasing ‘To improve performance you have to be able to measure it.” He flew the Space Shuttle a couple times.
The observed tension in the strong side draw is probably a side effect of the difficult position of the arm during the draw. The reason gamers use a drop offset holster is to avoid the impaired position of the arm with a high holster. Great points in your assessment. Thank you for watching!
Brian, you mentioned that the MantisX may not be the best tool for measuring that reaction time. I just got the Mantis Laser Academy, it's perfect to test this very thing. I've been working on draw to first shot - I'm still working on acquiring the dot in my draw - but the laser academy is extremely helpful for that.
Maybe I did not say this clearly, but I was referring to hand on the gun only. My Mantis will not allow me to touch the gun first and hold, but it will track the metric of gripping from the hands off postilion during holster draw analysis which is the only tool that does that well. Thanks for watching!
@@brianhill9639 Thanks for the clarification. I need to work with that more- there’s a lot of data in the X10 draw analysis but I hadn’t parsed it all out yet.
@@brianhill9639 You too! I've decided I'm going to pull out an old phone, load the Laser Academy on one phone, the X10 on another, and use them in concert. The X10 can help me with draw analysis, and the laser academy can record accuracy. I think the melding of the data should REALLY help. I just spent some time today reviewing the X10 draw data. The graphical presentation took me a moment. I think the best way to visualilze it, is to imaging the graph from the view just behind the shooter looking at the target. You can see the gun rise from the holster, travel a bit left (for a right-handed shooter), slow as it comes on target, then a slight wobble if adjusting the aim. It made no sense until I took that view, and now it all makes excellent sense.
@@brianhill9639 By the way, since this is a public post: for anyone reading, I encourage you to work with Brian and Shelley at The Complete Combatant. I've had classes from both; they're amazing instructors. Also, they'll be at the Active Self Protection National Conference in Manhattan, KS this September 24th-27th, 2021. I promise that I don't work for any of them, but I have benefitted HUGELY from instruction from them on several occasions. I've already signed up for Manhattan. Highly, Highly recommended!
I would like to add, when clearing a cover garment, it takes me longer on strong side versus the quicker clearing for appendix. I was taught use strong side hand to clear the garment, trap with support side and free your strong side hand, then draw with strong side hand. There is an extra movement when clearing strong side garments versus appendix garment.
Great video that confirms that appendix carry is NOT vastly faster than strong side carry. I am so tired of hearing about appendix carry and how vastly better than strong side. About the times. That is also affected by size and weight of the gun, any safeties being disengaged etc.
Hi, I have been shooting guns most of my life but always just for fun, nothing that really develops a high skill level. I was finally able to get a gun for conceal carry, and I have been doing lots of dry fire practice at home and am planning both more time at the range and taking a class. I am a decent shot normally, but I have never tried being quick. I do live in a constitutional carry state. I won't carry until I am more comfortable, but I am wondering if you recommend not carrying at all until I am under that 2.0 draw to first shot time?
Great question! I think it is important to know what is possible and probable by exploring through practice, then our personal protection decisions will be based on our capabilities. That you are asking this question is a great indicator of a conscientious armed citizen. A good draw can be learned with a minimal investment in time (2-3 times a week for 5 minutes) during dry practice. Thanks for watching!
One advantage with strong side it you can turn so the threat can't see you put your hand on your firearm and you can protect your firearm from grappling
@@ASPextra Scenario, you perceive me as a threat, but I walk up to you. If you put your hand on your firearm, I grab your hand with both of mine and push down with ALL my weight. It will pivot the gun jam the barrel into your stomach. I pull back as hard as I can and if the gun goes off, ouch. If not, I then push up with my legs and slam the top of my head into your face. If you draw on me before I grapple, that’s assault, especially if I am unarmed. Try it in a disarm exercise. It's amazingly effective.
As a life long martial artist my visual processing speed was well developed compared to my auditory speed which I had not practiced. Now as I shooter I am slightly quicker with audible signals than visual, but it was a difficult process much like flexing a unused muscle. Thanks for watching!
@@brianhill9639 I come from the same background with 37 years in the martial arts I was surprised at my finding. I will reach out though because there is an element with me that I’d prefer discuss privately but Shelley is very aware of.
Excellent presentation. I imagine the strong side hip fire would be extremely fast for some and extremely effective (when practiced) at close distances. AIWB for me and I will try this drill to get a baseline and improve, THANK YOU :D
Thanks, Brian. Excellent tips. I live in Walton Co. Any outdoor ranges you recommend or know of near me? I'm not finding much for some reason thru web searching.
If you're a normal person that sometimes walks or sits down, appendix is extremely uncomfortable. 1/10 of a second difference is more a competition factor not a real life scenario concern.
It's not too bad, if you find a small light weigh pistol that you can shoot. Right now, the BG380 works for me. In these days of hard-to-find ammo, the Ruger LCP .22LR (11 rounds) might be okay for people who don't live mob controlled areas.
Excellent observation. Reaction time & defeating the garment should be the same. 1/10 of a second is negligible. So don’t be pressured by all the hype on appendix carry and do what’s best for you.
AIWB can be comfortable if equipped properly. Plus, there is way more than 1/10 of a second time savings when strapped in the seat of your car. Have you tried drawing your firearm from a driving position, with your seatbelt fastened?
@@gb93669 Doesn't seem like the position I like to use with strong-side carry, is even possible when driving my little car with small tight bucket seats. The seatbelt clip-in-fastener hardware is pressing directly on the Kydex, pushing the rig into my hip bone. Now I only use AIWB. The only problem I see with the sitting-in-car draw, is when your long shirt-tail is under the seatbelt! When I get in the car, (I quickly hit the door locks, and start it up). As I fasten the seatbelt, I make sure that my cover-garment or winter coat is not going to be a problem.
I just did some testing. I'm old, weak, slow and have RA in my hands. The results of using my weak left hand were awful. So, if I ever have to go into combat, I'm going to move the belt clip on my ambidextrous* holster, so a little back-up pistol is located for left-handed draw. *(DeSantis Gunhide Slim-Tuk)
Appendix will be faster and easier, but neither will be something you can do fast, and will probably require transtion to a firing grip (like placing pistol between knees and then getting firing grip).... that being said the chance of you being injured in your dominant arm/hand before needing to draw your pistol is so low i wouldnt bother training for it.
I understand the point of the drill, I've got an envelope budgeting for a Mantis so I can make myself feel bad. ;) I believe that any trained person will be faster AIWB than they are strongside IWB. That said, as far as carry for self-defense goes, "clearing the cover garment" is where the rubber meets the road, speed-wise. AIWB requires either an untucked shirt, or a tuckable holster, which requires either both hands being empty at the start of the draw, or the slight additional time and reflex to empty the support hand under stress, which, as we see from the ASP videos, is not a natural act but must be trained, or, if the support hand is somehow unavailable due to being used defensively, or to hold something which cannot be dropped, a two-step strong-hand-only clear and then go back for the gun, which might still be fouled. Strong side, with it's slightly longer draw time, and other marginal drawbacks, requires only an open cover garment and the gun can be accessed with only the strong hand in a single sweeping motion regardless of what is going on with the weak hand. Considering an untucked shirt is not socially appropriate in all climes and places, I think, as all the instructors John works with almost certainly do, a lot more up front time needs to be spent looking at a student's actual context before training them in the "optimum gunfighter" carry method.
I think you're assuming a lot here, Matthew. Most who carry strong side do so under a closed front cover garment. Also, you have to clear the hand to defeat cover on strong side too.
@@bindingcurve Context is all. I don't live where it gets to 90 degrees. A light overshirt open over a tee is what I wear when it gets (locally) hot, or on vacay anyway.
Very Educational content which is explained simply for everyone to understand. This kind of breakdown will actually help self defenders protect their families and theirselves better. 👍💪
No! I did wear to two different holsters, and the difference was only a .10th of a second. I am not sure how you arrived at this statement. Thanks for watching!
Question, your hand gestures are not natural. Constantly bringing your fingertips and your phones together to form an upside down triangle it’s not something that comes natural. It is however something that one can mimic from so many others. Is it some kind of a cultic signal or just you don’t know what to do with your hands and you see it from other people.I’ve asked those questions many times and I’ve yet to find somebody with the courage to answer it honestly
This app will rat out what guns you have and how trained you are with those guns to the government. All your shooting data is held in the cloud. Meaning if the authority's come to your house and they see you train a lot with your guns, they might come at you to aggressively seeing you as a threat because you train. Don't help them oppress you. There's are other ways to train without showing off your abilities and doesn't use ammo. Look it up.
I had an idea for an Alexa Skill that could use an Alexa device to monitor my practice with it's super sensitive microphones. Then display the time stats on a cellphone or a FireStick TV display. But, now I'm reconsidering. Since I know Amazon is likely sell my shooting speed data to the Regime thugs, or allow Russian hackers to steal it! ;)
You have to balance that potential against the measurable training benefits which tend to aggregate positively as you can get beneficial feedback both solo and being trained by someone else. Stay safe out there.
@@ASPextra As we now are finding out the tinfoil hat IS a real thing, anything you are doing with a phone CAN AND WILL BE monitored by others without your knowledge or permission. It's just a fact of life now and a VERY real consideration.
@@ASPextra It's theater brought on by institutional inbreeding. Why not shout "I quit" ? Maybe throw your hat in the air as well? You sure aren't scanning anything ready to fire. Maybe looks good on a range to the novice.
Solid. I like this dude. Easy going and humble.
Agreed. Remember our departed military today.🎖️
Agree and thought the same thing. It reminds me of a badass fighter that doesn’t need to do anything ( like yell boast etc. Just calmly take care of business. The scariest type. Kinda like Cauliflower ears . Don’t mess with and provoke😂
He doesn’t add the fluff john does
So many of us that are restricted by square range rules seldom, if ever, test our reaction times and hand speeds with live fire. We are slow because our minds and bodies have never been taught how fast they can really be. Your break downs in this video give a methodology for each individual to measure and improve this area of our defensive shooting skills in dry and live fire practice. You and John compliment each other well in your training styles. Thank you both.
My range has tons of rules that forbid many of the things you need to practice. I don't use the range that much (low on ammo). At home, I do draw and dry-fire practice with a laser setup. It actually helps my speed and aim.
I prefer using high quality, all metal frame/slide/mags, green gas powered, airsoft clones. I have a Sig p226 and HK p30 that have the same feel and similar weight as the real things with reciprocating slides that provide enough recoil impulse to flip the muzzle. They have good accuracy, velocity, and cardboard hole punching power out to 15+ yards. I like them better than the lazer systems I have used. During 2020, dry fire and air soft were 90% of my practice. (I have built indoor and outdoor airsoft/bb/pellet ranges.)These days, I do about 1/3rd live fire, 1/3rd dry fire, and 1/3rd airsoft and I get in 500 to 1,000 rep's total per month.
@@XRinger I'm lucky, my range allows draw, rapid fire and has programable target carriers (AC in the bays as well). Because the drills are broken up with draw and fire, I use a LOT less ammo. Still have a big stash, but can easily limit myself to 25 rounds of center fire and another 50 of rim and have a full session.
I see from some of the comments that the point of the video was missed completely....
What a wonderful world the internet has become. 🙄
Thank you for an informative video with info on how to break down the time segments of a draw and focus in on which areas need to be improved.
I know, right!?! Thank you for watching the whole video!
Central Washington University did a study involving video game players and no video game players reaction times (male and female). A male who plays video games had a mean reaction time that was 55.15 milliseconds faster than that of a male who didn't play video games. Male to female difference was minor at about 2 to 3 milliseconds. I wanted to look into this because I remember watching some experiments a while back that showed the difference between someone who plays video games infrequently, frequently, and in a professional capacity which presented significant difference there as well (some of which might be genetics but part of it was definitely do to age and level of practice in terms of the task as they had a former pro compete against a current pro). I find interesting that there might actually be a benefit to playing games that test your brains ability to react, and I wonder if there would be a difference between someone who only trains shooting, and someone who plays video games and shoots. It would be difficult to test as it would require two people of about equal skill level...
Just something that crossed my mind as he was explaining reaction times.
F1 teams have games designed to track and improve response times.
Starting with your hand on the gun gives the advantage to aiwb, since your hand is naturally closer to 3:00 at rest.
And 0.1 seconds matters far less than all the other factors you mention. Awareness, clearing the cover garment, are you able to get a good grip on the gun.
I really love this video, and i its very easy to follow and i love the instructors humbleness!
enjoyed the video.
At 8:20- this is exactly why I haven't switched to appendix. "I occasionally compete" - ok- so where does joe civilian get his training/pressure testing? Competition. This is the same reason why I don't compete with a full size hand cannon... I use the sub that I pack. Don't care how far back I'm placing- I'm improving my real life conceal carry.
I used to do the same. I hope to resume soon.
It took me a while to get to this video, but I’m glad I saved it and watched. Great content. Thanks!
Really appreciate this comparison. Thank you
Great info! Thanks for taking the time to produce content over the holiday!
You are welcome!
You had a lotta muscular tension in your arm waiting for the beep on strong side draws would bet that accounts for the time delta - like when you try to muscle a heavy clean or snatch and that muscular tension prevents you from being able to make the catch, does that analogy make sense? GREAT point on how a quick efficient neuromuscular pathway grooved in feels slow; when I broke the 1.1sec barrier for 1st rd hits it felt like a mad scramble racing to still make sure it was sub 1.5 sec std & started heeling my shots.....of course as the designated demo guy while attending a restricted class, and the instructor was saying I was coming off the sights so I cranked a medulla shot off even faster then realized where the technical error was.
IME the competition stuff carries over very significantly (ignoring the gamesmanship) having repeated Jeff Gonzales’ experiment on running a HR monitor in a couple competitions and finding the competition stress pushed it higher than as recorded during several subsequent engagements (application - physiological stress acclimation, like hot seat is for the mind) and see Travis Hailey’s work applying sports perf science. Had been wanting one of these dry fire training devices just ordered.....think an app using video and analyzing the biomechanics & speed of motion like some of us use in the gym would be an awesome thing that would probly cover a lot of the gap your working on.
Great stuff keep up the good work!
Edited to add: In flight safety/training measurement watched a presentation where the speaker said paraphrasing ‘To improve performance you have to be able to measure it.” He flew the Space Shuttle a couple times.
The observed tension in the strong side draw is probably a side effect of the difficult position of the arm during the draw. The reason gamers use a drop offset holster is to avoid the impaired position of the arm with a high holster. Great points in your assessment. Thank you for watching!
Interesting topic and comparisons.
Brian, you mentioned that the MantisX may not be the best tool for measuring that reaction time. I just got the Mantis Laser Academy, it's perfect to test this very thing. I've been working on draw to first shot - I'm still working on acquiring the dot in my draw - but the laser academy is extremely helpful for that.
Maybe I did not say this clearly, but I was referring to hand on the gun only. My Mantis will not allow me to touch the gun first and hold, but it will track the metric of gripping from the hands off postilion during holster draw analysis which is the only tool that does that well. Thanks for watching!
@@brianhill9639 Thanks for the clarification. I need to work with that more- there’s a lot of data in the X10 draw analysis but I hadn’t parsed it all out yet.
Good to hear from you, my friend!
@@brianhill9639 You too! I've decided I'm going to pull out an old phone, load the Laser Academy on one phone, the X10 on another, and use them in concert. The X10 can help me with draw analysis, and the laser academy can record accuracy. I think the melding of the data should REALLY help. I just spent some time today reviewing the X10 draw data. The graphical presentation took me a moment. I think the best way to visualilze it, is to imaging the graph from the view just behind the shooter looking at the target. You can see the gun rise from the holster, travel a bit left (for a right-handed shooter), slow as it comes on target, then a slight wobble if adjusting the aim. It made no sense until I took that view, and now it all makes excellent sense.
@@brianhill9639 By the way, since this is a public post: for anyone reading, I encourage you to work with Brian and Shelley at The Complete Combatant. I've had classes from both; they're amazing instructors. Also, they'll be at the Active Self Protection National Conference in Manhattan, KS this September 24th-27th, 2021. I promise that I don't work for any of them, but I have benefitted HUGELY from instruction from them on several occasions. I've already signed up for Manhattan. Highly, Highly recommended!
AIWB RDS master race checking in
I switched from IWB behind hip to AIWB. Defeating my own muscle memory has been hard. IRL my hand goes to my hip. It just does
Very enlightening. A must share
Hurray! Finally some strong side content! Now all we need is some discussion of concealment to first shot from IWB and I'll be a happy panda.
Next week!
Great info Brian! Thank you for this!
Another amazing video.
I look forward to these videos every week, Brian. Thank you for your thoughtful, logical breakdown of concepts and top-quality instruction!
Great information Brian, thank you! 👍
Have a safe and Happy Memorial Day! 😃👊❤️🇺🇸
Randy
Awesome B.H.
On this Memorial Day, thank you, Sailor.
I would like to add, when clearing a cover garment, it takes me longer on strong side versus the quicker clearing for appendix. I was taught use strong side hand to clear the garment, trap with support side and free your strong side hand, then draw with strong side hand. There is an extra movement when clearing strong side garments versus appendix garment.
Great video that confirms that appendix carry is NOT vastly faster than strong side carry. I am so tired of hearing about appendix carry and how vastly better than strong side.
About the times. That is also affected by size and weight of the gun, any safeties being disengaged etc.
Wet all need to understand to be careful
Hi, I have been shooting guns most of my life but always just for fun, nothing that really develops a high skill level. I was finally able to get a gun for conceal carry, and I have been doing lots of dry fire practice at home and am planning both more time at the range and taking a class. I am a decent shot normally, but I have never tried being quick. I do live in a constitutional carry state. I won't carry until I am more comfortable, but I am wondering if you recommend not carrying at all until I am under that 2.0 draw to first shot time?
Great question! I think it is important to know what is possible and probable by exploring through practice, then our personal protection decisions will be based on our capabilities. That you are asking this question is a great indicator of a conscientious armed citizen. A good draw can be learned with a minimal investment in time (2-3 times a week for 5 minutes) during dry practice. Thanks for watching!
@9:24 “I just don’t wanna know.”
“That which can be measured can be managed and improved.”
-Peter Drucker
One advantage with strong side it you can turn so the threat can't see you put your hand on your firearm and you can protect your firearm from grappling
I really don't think the last part is true, frankly. In actual grappling a strong side gun is MUCH harder to protect than an AIWB gun.
@@ASPextra Scenario, you perceive me as a threat, but I walk up to you. If you put your hand on your firearm, I grab your hand with both of mine and push down with ALL my weight. It will pivot the gun jam the barrel into your stomach. I pull back as hard as I can and if the gun goes off, ouch. If not, I then push up with my legs and slam the top of my head into your face. If you draw on me before I grapple, that’s assault, especially if I am unarmed. Try it in a disarm exercise. It's amazingly effective.
Watching the times on my Mantis, I changed from SS to AIWB within 3 days.
Interesting I did a auditory vs. visual comparison once and visual was faster. Maybe something to talk about
As a life long martial artist my visual processing speed was well developed compared to my auditory speed which I had not practiced. Now as I shooter I am slightly quicker with audible signals than visual, but it was a difficult process much like flexing a unused muscle. Thanks for watching!
@@brianhill9639 I come from the same background with 37 years in the martial arts I was surprised at my finding. I will reach out though because there is an element with me that I’d prefer discuss privately but Shelley is very aware of.
Excellent presentation. I imagine the strong side hip fire would be extremely fast for some and extremely effective (when practiced) at close distances. AIWB for me and I will try this drill to get a baseline and improve, THANK YOU :D
So, you need a light bearing holster to use the Mantis?
If you mount it to the rail on the dust cover. You can get a mount to put it on the magazine so you can use your regular holster.
I have a feeling I think I know where the topic of this video came from...;-)
Data on a hot topic. Neither strong nor appendix is better. One is just faster.
Thanks, Brian. Excellent tips. I live in Walton Co. Any outdoor ranges you recommend or know of near me? I'm not finding much for some reason thru web searching.
Sorry, I do not know of any. There is a true shortage of outdoor ranges in Ga, hence the reason I built my own range. Thank you for watching!
@@brianhill9639 glad you are able to do that. Do you offer memberships at your range?
If you're a normal person that sometimes walks or sits down, appendix is extremely uncomfortable. 1/10 of a second difference is more a competition factor not a real life scenario concern.
It's not too bad, if you find a small light weigh pistol that you can shoot. Right now, the BG380 works for me. In these days of hard-to-find ammo, the Ruger LCP .22LR (11 rounds) might be okay for people who don't live mob controlled areas.
Excellent observation. Reaction time & defeating the garment should be the same. 1/10 of a second is negligible. So don’t be pressured by all the hype on appendix carry and do what’s best for you.
With a good belt and holster AIWB is not uncomfortable at all. We've shown that repeatedly on the channel.
AIWB can be comfortable if equipped properly. Plus, there is way more than 1/10 of a second time savings when strapped in the seat of your car. Have you tried drawing your firearm from a driving position, with your seatbelt fastened?
@@gb93669 Doesn't seem like the position I like to use with strong-side carry, is even possible when driving my little car with small tight bucket seats. The seatbelt clip-in-fastener hardware is pressing directly on the Kydex, pushing the rig into my hip bone. Now I only use AIWB. The only problem I see with the sitting-in-car draw, is when your long shirt-tail is under the seatbelt!
When I get in the car, (I quickly hit the door locks, and start it up). As I fasten the seatbelt, I make sure that my cover-garment or winter coat is not going to be a problem.
If you needed to draw with your weak hand, which is faster? Appendix or side?
I just did some testing. I'm old, weak, slow and have RA in my hands. The results of using my weak left hand were awful.
So, if I ever have to go into combat, I'm going to move the belt clip on my ambidextrous* holster, so a little back-up pistol is located for left-handed draw. *(DeSantis Gunhide Slim-Tuk)
Never seen a private citizen gunfight involving a support hand draw.
Appendix will be faster and easier, but neither will be something you can do fast, and will probably require transtion to a firing grip (like placing pistol between knees and then getting firing grip).... that being said the chance of you being injured in your dominant arm/hand before needing to draw your pistol is so low i wouldnt bother training for it.
Strong side is good if you half to carry kids on your other hip.
I think AIWB can do exactly the same thing.
@@ASPextra one benefit i see to strong side in that situation is comfort. The kids leg is not digging into the gun. Gun is not digging into you.
I suppose, but I don't think that's much of a thing to be honest. Carry however you'd like, of course. :)
I understand the point of the drill, I've got an envelope budgeting for a Mantis so I can make myself feel bad. ;) I believe that any trained person will be faster AIWB than they are strongside IWB. That said, as far as carry for self-defense goes, "clearing the cover garment" is where the rubber meets the road, speed-wise.
AIWB requires either an untucked shirt, or a tuckable holster, which requires either both hands being empty at the start of the draw, or the slight additional time and reflex to empty the support hand under stress, which, as we see from the ASP videos, is not a natural act but must be trained, or, if the support hand is somehow unavailable due to being used defensively, or to hold something which cannot be dropped, a two-step strong-hand-only clear and then go back for the gun, which might still be fouled.
Strong side, with it's slightly longer draw time, and other marginal drawbacks, requires only an open cover garment and the gun can be accessed with only the strong hand in a single sweeping motion regardless of what is going on with the weak hand.
Considering an untucked shirt is not socially appropriate in all climes and places, I think, as all the instructors John works with almost certainly do, a lot more up front time needs to be spent looking at a student's actual context before training them in the "optimum gunfighter" carry method.
I think you're assuming a lot here, Matthew. Most who carry strong side do so under a closed front cover garment. Also, you have to clear the hand to defeat cover on strong side too.
@@ASPextra I carry open front? And the clearing is done by the strong hand on the way to the gun. At least as I was trained.
@@carebear8762 In 90 degree weather?
@@bindingcurve Context is all. I don't live where it gets to 90 degrees. A light overshirt open over a tee is what I wear when it gets (locally) hot, or on vacay anyway.
Takes a quarter second to clear the cover garment either strong side or AIWB, one handed or two.
Very Educational content which is explained simply for everyone to understand. This kind of breakdown will actually help self defenders protect their families and theirselves better. 👍💪
It's a trap.....
So I guess every police department in the country should move their line officers to appendix carry, eh?
No! I did wear to two different holsters, and the difference was only a .10th of a second. I am not sure how you arrived at this statement. Thanks for watching!
Question, your hand gestures are not natural. Constantly bringing your fingertips and your phones together to form an upside down triangle it’s not something that comes natural. It is however something that one can mimic from so many others. Is it some kind of a cultic signal or just you don’t know what to do with your hands and you see it from other people.I’ve asked those questions many times and I’ve yet to find somebody with the courage to answer it honestly
I disagree that his hand gestures are not natural. They 100% are natural for an accomplished jiu jitsu coach like Brian.
Should be more realistic hand in pockets or one hand holding cup your gun conceal under shirt then see your time.
Most people don't stand hands in pockets much, honestly, and the chance of being completely surprised like that are pretty minimal.
Let us see where the hits on target please..without that their is no prove.
Brian is an incredible shooter and is simply showing mechanics here.
He addressed that earlier in the video. That wasn't the focus of it.
I suspect he'll put it all together in a future one. Stay tuned and be safe.
This app will rat out what guns you have and how trained you are with those guns to the government. All your shooting data is held in the cloud. Meaning if the authority's come to your house and they see you train a lot with your guns, they might come at you to aggressively seeing you as a threat because you train. Don't help them oppress you. There's are other ways to train without showing off your abilities and doesn't use ammo. Look it up.
Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
I had an idea for an Alexa Skill that could use an Alexa device to monitor my practice with it's super sensitive microphones. Then display the time stats on a cellphone or a FireStick TV display. But, now I'm reconsidering. Since I know Amazon is likely sell my shooting speed data to the Regime thugs, or allow Russian hackers to steal it! ;)
You have to balance that potential against the measurable training benefits which tend to aggregate positively as you can get beneficial feedback both solo and being trained by someone else.
Stay safe out there.
@@ASPextra As we now are finding out the tinfoil hat IS a real thing, anything you are doing with a phone CAN AND WILL BE monitored by others without your knowledge or permission. It's just a fact of life now and a VERY real consideration.
Destroys credibility when he pulls the gun back to his chest after firing.... lol
How so?
@@ASPextra It's theater brought on by institutional inbreeding. Why not shout "I quit" ? Maybe throw your hat in the air as well? You sure aren't scanning anything ready to fire. Maybe looks good on a range to the novice.
You're ignoring what he is teaching here. Have you seen Brian actually shoot? I guarantee you he can outshoot you.
@@ASPextra Sure, whatever sells ad's and gets clicks.
Well sport, let's see your FBI qual on video. I will wait.
You should start with hands neutral and clear tee shirt for more realistic numbers
He was just measuring a specific portion of the draw (hand speed proxy) for this video and aggregating the effects from there.