When I first saw this my mind said that there's no way a J 2-10-4 based locomotive would loose to a Potomac 4-8-4. The Potomac has now increased a couple notches in my list of good trains.
We agree with some comments that the J1 in Trainz SEEMS a little bit underpowered even though we already fine-tuned the J1, but there are some parameters in the config file we didn't change due to lack of data (Just as many other 3D steam engines created by different parties) That's why we always welcome people who are really good at computer scripting + railroading history to provide a very accurate config file for any steam engine of Trainz. : )
@@Jones3DModelingClub figuring out some of the basics has been a bit challenging but i might see about learning a little bit about computer code/script to see if i can get some better results! in response to another comment of yours i have recently been working not using the autofireman and running locos from the interior. the results have not let me down in my effort.
I had an email conversation with Steve Lerro (the creator of both trains) & he admitted it took him a while to fully understand how to properly create train scripts. The J1 is one of his early models before he knew how to do it, the Potomac is more recent & it shows how his products have come on.
@@jamesthompson215 Agree. We totally understand that it is not an easy thing to create train scripts especially when many data can't be found easily on the web or in the book, so we don't mind if some model borrows other trains scripts. It took us almost one year to gather every single data available for the PRR T1 and S1 from various sources, including railroading expert from Trains Magazine forum, books and back issues of various railroad magazine. Therefore, we didn't expect a 3D model created by an independent 3D artist is 100% accurate, which is actually impossible, let alone the limitation of any simulator available to the general public. : )
The Western Maryland Potomac was the most modern engineered, and one of the most powerful, and one of the largest 4-8-4s ever made. They could easily produce over 4,500 DBHP at 50 mph without even running hard. It is speculated because of their end-of-steam era engineering, and their huge boilers, their maximum DBHP was well over 5,000 and may they have been capable of nearly 5,500 HP at the drawbar when pushed to their maximum. They were a true Superpower (high horsepower at speed) design, built specifically for fast freight work. They had huge boilers, probably the largest you could fit on a 4-8-4. The PRR J1, based off the C&O 2-10-4 had even larger boilers, but they could not use all the steam their huge boilers could produce. They were the basis for the Duplex Q2 design. By utilizing 4 smaller cylinders, the Q2 was able to effectively use all the steam the boiler could produce and turn that into massive mechanical power.
We shared the same thought as yours. It seems that the auto fireman function doesn't work very well on the J1 so we have to turn it off to keep the boiler pressure above 200psi manually.
i have trainz 12 bought from ebay and i have trainz 12 bought from steam can someone give me a detailed tutorial on how to install engines or other assets for trainz 12
Ask this on the trainz forums. I'm sure many of the veterans there could help you out. I started with tane so I don't know how it works on older versions but they will
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When I first saw this my mind said that there's no way a J 2-10-4 based locomotive would loose to a Potomac 4-8-4. The Potomac has now increased a couple notches in my list of good trains.
We agree with some comments that the J1 in Trainz SEEMS a little bit underpowered even though we already fine-tuned the J1, but there are some parameters in the config file we didn't change due to lack of data (Just as many other 3D steam engines created by different parties) That's why we always welcome people who are really good at computer scripting + railroading history to provide a very accurate config file for any steam engine of Trainz. : )
@@Jones3DModelingClub figuring out some of the basics has been a bit challenging but i might see about learning a little bit about computer code/script to see if i can get some better results! in response to another comment of yours i have recently been working not using the autofireman and running locos from the interior. the results have not let me down in my effort.
I had an email conversation with Steve Lerro (the creator of both trains) & he admitted it took him a while to fully understand how to properly create train scripts. The J1 is one of his early models before he knew how to do it, the Potomac is more recent & it shows how his products have come on.
@@jamesthompson215 thank you for the info!
@@jamesthompson215 Agree. We totally understand that it is not an easy thing to create train scripts especially when many data can't be found easily on the web or in the book, so we don't mind if some model borrows other trains scripts. It took us almost one year to gather every single data available for the PRR T1 and S1 from various sources, including railroading expert from Trains Magazine forum, books and back issues of various railroad magazine. Therefore, we didn't expect a 3D model created by an independent 3D artist is 100% accurate, which is actually impossible, let alone the limitation of any simulator available to the general public. : )
I think as well because Potomacs had Roller Bearings on each wheel facilitating their speed increase..
Do a race of a Western Maryland J1 4-8-4 Vs. Central of Georgia 'Big Apple"
The Western Maryland Potomac was the most modern engineered, and one of the most powerful, and one of the largest 4-8-4s ever made. They could easily produce over 4,500 DBHP at 50 mph without even running hard. It is speculated because of their end-of-steam era engineering, and their huge boilers, their maximum DBHP was well over 5,000 and may they have been capable of nearly 5,500 HP at the drawbar when pushed to their maximum. They were a true Superpower (high horsepower at speed) design, built specifically for fast freight work. They had huge boilers, probably the largest you could fit on a 4-8-4. The PRR J1, based off the C&O 2-10-4 had even larger boilers, but they could not use all the steam their huge boilers could produce. They were the basis for the Duplex Q2 design. By utilizing 4 smaller cylinders, the Q2 was able to effectively use all the steam the boiler could produce and turn that into massive mechanical power.
Looks like the Pennsy J1 was the one with less tractive effort this time round
We shared the same thought as yours. It seems that the auto fireman function doesn't work very well on the J1 so we have to turn it off to keep the boiler pressure above 200psi manually.
Nice western Maryland locomotive
That's was cool.
Thanks!
I agree and I play roblox too
Here's my request:
NYC Niagara vs WM Potomac 4-8-4
i have trainz 12 bought from ebay and i have trainz 12 bought from steam can someone give me a detailed tutorial on how to install engines or other assets for trainz 12
Ask this on the trainz forums. I'm sure many of the veterans there could help you out. I started with tane so I don't know how it works on older versions but they will
Western maryland train wheels is a d&H 302
Wow literally the PRR J1 is way slower than the Potomac.
NICE
Wb a NYC Niagara?
We did some races involved the NYC Niagara before, which steam engine you want to challenge the NYC Niagara in the next race? : )
A Sante Fe Northern
@@DumpedClutch No problem! : )
@@Jones3DModelingClub do SP&S E-1 Vs. C&O Greenbrier
i like prr j1 whistle
prr j1 is slow