Such a good daily! I picked up a B8.5 black edition S4 with the factory sports diff a few months ago. Fitted RS5 brakes which was fairly straight forwards although I had to fit spacers to clear the 19" rotors. Had an MRC stage 2 package this week and its now an animal. Going for the 034 motorsport ARB and Bilstein coilovers next as the standard suspension is the weak point now. Probably go for the rear silencer delete as MRC advised the standard exhaust is not really restrictive so I am not sure I can justify 2k for a full system. Thank you for all your videos, they are most useful for those of us that like to attempt some work at home!
Thanks mark appreciate you taking the time to comment. Yeah i bet that’s a lot of fun now it’s stage 2, exhaust wise yeah it’s more for sound than performance as stock has plenty of flow. The backbox Delete for the money is the best option otherwise your looking at a 4 figure cat back. Rs5 brakes are a lovely touch! Thanks for watching
When i bought my 2011 used B8 S4, i intentionally looked for stock S4's, the tuned ones are almost certain to be abused. Also service book is up to date, including S-tronic oil change, but i later change it again at 120.000 km ( i wanted a manual but those are rare here in Germany in avant shape). I guess when i want to drive a manual i have to drive my old manual 2007 TT 8J. S-tronic is way faster than i can shift and you dont feel any shakes so big plus in speed and confort, i'm happy with the double clutch choice now. Still both great cars, i drive them daily, TT for the twisty roads and the S4 for autobahn.
HammerTube sounds like you thought about it before buying which is always a good thing. 8J tt’s are great fun, I’m still loving the 8n when it works haha. Thanks for watching and commenting
Thanks for subscribing, they truly are brilliant cars, I’ve done 1 Europe trip but would happily do many more. It’s a pleasure to put miles on. Thanks for watching.
This is awesome. I was thinking about getting myself a b8 s4 avant and this playlist just checks absolutely everything I'd ever wanna know about that car. Great video 👍🏻
Nice review. I have my manual as a daily and the family car since 1.5 years and has been super reliable. The performance at this cost is amazing and pretty much no newer estate I tried to drive is exciting as the B8.
@@jerryx2000 2.0 have issues that 3.0 don’t have. Is not unheard of that 2.0 needs 1L oil per every tank of petrol. Depending on how I drive I use 1L per 3-5000km
My 2013 Infinity G37 was just declared a total loss by my Insurance company, and I'm looking at a 100% loaded, Black on Black 2010 S4 this weekend. I loved my G37 and I really enjoyed the "370Z in a Tuxedo" driving experience, but if this S4 checks out, it's a huge level-of-magnitude better than my Infinity. Cheers from San Francisco, and great AUDI content, my friend! -Dave
1970borntorun thanks Dave, Sorry to hear about your lost g37, The Audi is a completely different experience but for the better I feel. Let me know how you get on with that one at the weekend 👌🏻
@@TheParrottBros Thank you for the thoughtful and kind reply! If I pick up that S4, I will surely check back in with you and tell you how much I'm enjoying it! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas as well! - Dave
Very informative video, thanks for sharing your experiences - looking at a 2013 black optics packaged avant that seems to be exactly as yours was (dealer serviced, well maintained, slightly less than average mileage). Test drove it and .. boy it's a nice drive - appointment made with the dealer to discuss options/potentially make the purchase.
the wagon😩I wish we got wagons here in Canada. The regular sedans alright though I’m looking to buy one. First thing I’ll do is that tune up. 333 hp to ~420 which is crazy
The Avant is certainly more practical than the saloon and offers that cool estate look, that and when people go to race you they just assume it’s slow haha. Yeah mapping and a few handling upgrades and it’s like a dream to drive
Great video, I first discovered it a few months ago and I have now just purchased my own B8 S4 Avant. This video was very helpful and I suspect I will be watching all of your S4 videos now haha. My car is virtually identical to yours, colour, spec, everything. I even have the pov spec 18 inch alloys as yours originally had which I will be looking to upgrade. Collecting the car this Saturday and I cannot wait!! Thanks for the guidance guys, great content 👌 I've watched your gear shifter upgrade video too and I think that will be one of my first mods. Love the interior but that shifter looks soooooo dated!
@@TheParrottBros thank you, top man 👍 ill be going down the same route as you have, starting with the back box and rear arb so I will be heading to your channel alot
You could add the DSG transmission to the list of reliability concerns. I bought a stock 2012 B8 S4 in 2017 with 90K km. No evidence of abuse. At 148K km, the transmission failed with codes stored: P1624 - Requirement, malfunction lamp on active, P17D800 - Torque limitation due to clutch temperature, P17D000 - Clutch 2 slip too big, P060A00 - Internal control module monitoring processor performance & P081E - Excessive clutch "B" slippage. Repair estimate is $17K at Audi dealership, $10K at reputable independent transmission shop. WTF.
@@jordanr3163 yes it was serviced by the Audi dealer on schedule. It was not quite due for next service when it failed. I’ve had the mech unit replaced and clutch repair. Super expensive but works well now and I have a 60K trans warranty. No good solution for this.
Not really no. Tax is lower than most performance cars at 260 a year (Im paying 320 on my 1.8T octavia rs that has less than half the power) Insurance is a bit steep but if you have a few years no claims its alright. You can get one for about 8-9 grand, which you can finance if you cant save up. The engine it self is one of the most solid engines in the vag-group, the smaller turbos have more common issues than this one. The only thing that could cost on this on the long term is the adaptive suspension, but even that is a rare failure, and you can skip it altogether because it was optional, so if you are scared of it you can just get one that doesnt have it. All in all I would say this is a solid investment if you buy one that was maintained properly and taken care of.
They are brilliant cars and like Waifuracer says they are not horrendous, yes they guzzle fuel but what performance car doesn't, Insurance is relative to your age, if your older like me then they are not to bad same as any other performance car, you just have to be mindful if something does go wrong it could be upwards of £1000 instantly haha, but then thats no difference to a bmw etc. I would recommend anyone to a b8 s4 I love mine
This video was the selling point for me to get one 😂 mines genuinely pretty much identical. Stage 1 90k miles on the clock Few points from my 3 month ownership so far…. Quick as fuck Handles a bit shit Nice on a long drive Expensive on fuel (low 20s) Keep on-top of upkeep Will beat most cars of the line Overall - expensive upkeep but very much worth it. Thank you!
Great video bud, this came up in my suggested videos and I glad I clicked 'play' Refreshing to see a well put together video, without some egotistical knob in front of the camera! I used to have an agate grey B5 S4 Saloon, and I loved it but much like you was getting fed up with issues etc. Sadly I domt have a B8 S4 now, but rather a 2011 C6 3.0tdi Avant with a manual box which for my needs is perfect. After a remap, they're certainly not shy! Keep up the good work mate. 👍
Thanks for the message and comments really appreciate it! I bet that still isn’t shy, heard they are lovely to drive specially with all that torque. Plus a great all rounder, used to have a c5 loved it. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Are you serious!? 10k for a S4!? If you want a nice S4 here in Norway you have to come up with 28k, at least. And that's a 09' not a facelift 8.5 or anything.
rad video man, looking for a s4 as my first drive and you have just one that looks like the one im looking at, even the stage tune. Oh and before somebody says that im spoiled and ive got easy earnt dad money Ill go out and say that ive been working my ass off last years to make my dream come true of owning a v6 monster when 18
Fairplay to you, it is one hell of a machine for anyone whether it’s your first car or your 10th! They are a fantastic drive and you’ll enjoy every minute of it, thanks for watching
Tanny A thank you, if your looking at buying one there is also a couple videos worth checking out in the s4 playlist including a buyer guide / common faults.
I have just sold my RS4 Avant because it was costing me a fortune. Brake pads and discs all round £2200. Two new front shocks £2400. Two new brake lines £340 . I am thinking of buying an S4 Avant but I’m going to check prices on parts first Thank you for a great video buddy.
No problemo, the s4 comes in a lot lower in prices specially if you get one without drive select. A stage 1 mapped s4 will run similar power to the rs4 all be it not a v8. Front discs are £140 a pair genuine, tyres £159 etc. It’s a lot more affordable and all your losing is the additional aesthetic‘s / status
Great video mate, I’m looking for a S4 currently and you’ve nailed everything I was looking for And with the buyers guide too, You’ve got a new subscriber👍🏻
Thanks for subscribing, that’s why I made a video as when I was looking I struggle to find any decent information, the kind of information you’d want to know when buying a car. Plenty more to come :)
Nice vid mate, I’ve been in mine 3months and it makes me smile every day. I’m MRC stage 2, TCU, Eibach pro kit. I have also ordered a Merc racing charge cooler about 30mins, it being going up the quarter mile this summer😁
Changed pulley yeah? What figures did it make. Bet it goes Awfully well! I’ve got the cooler sitting at home just waiting for the separate reservoir to divorce the cooling system for maximum effectiveness. Where are you based?
The Parrott Bro’s I’m in the Midlands mate. I have the larger crank pulley, MRC don’t do the charger pulley as they believe they get all they need from crank only. I’d be really interested to hear drone level at motorway speed with the back box delete!
I’ve been following mrc’s build on there b8 for a while, I agree that the bottom pulley is the better upgrade and there reasoning behind it. Doug is a great guy and gets good results. I will be doing some more filming in the car soon as the lockdown is lifted so keep watch new content coming shortly inc decent driving clips
I currently have an a4 b8 from 2009 ad my first car no issues with 97k miles 1 owner thinking of getting an s4 or an s3 but I don’t want a used one for maintenance cost I was thinking certified pre owned but I’m 18 making $1200 a month and those payments would be high for a cpo s4 so I was thinking s3
Unless you need a bigger car you may find the s3 more fun to drive as it’s a lot lighter and even bigger modifications available not to mention leases repair costs. But it’s no supercharged v6 haha. Tough call but never stretch yourself too much money wise yourll never enjoy it.
Great to have a video on the B8 from a 2020 perspective, very helpful. I just started looking into this car, in fact it is my first car purchase and there's a lot of noise online around potential issues that worry me. Those being timing belt and timing chain, water pump, thermostat, and oxygen sensor. What is your take on that? I test drove a 2011 S4 with 86k miles, it drove wonderfully but I don't want to have to replace any of those parts any soon (say at least for another 20-30k miles) since these are expensive repairs. Service history doesn't show any replacement or repair of those parts so far. Maybe even worth a full video? I saw a lot of forums out there talking about those issues but I'd love to hear your take on it. Either way thanks in advance for your opinion man, cheers!
Hey jan, firstly thanks for the message and watching the channel. Now down to business. I’ll be real honest with you, if you are concerned about high maintenance costs then buying a 9/10 year old performance audi probably isn’t the best thing to do. These cars do require yearly maintenance that is routine based on the advises. That alone can be £1k a year. That being said if you know a good mechanic it can be a lot less. I would always recommend buying a car with a good history and it has been well looked after it may cost a little bit more better be worth it in the long run. Don’t be afraid of buying one with more miles as it’s likely to be better value for money. Thanks TPB
The Parrott Bro’s Thank you Jan for posting this question and thank you TPB for replying and putting my mind to rest. I avoided looking at any higher mileage S4 B8s previously, but your comment has given me a bit more confidence in searching the market in midst of this lockdown. Hopefully I’ll be able to get more bang for my buck with a slightly higher mileage model. Great to see a detailed and honest review on this car, I appreciate the time and effort taken to produce the vid. Keep up the good work, liked, subbed and B8 Playlist added!
The Parrott Bro’s thank you for replying, great advice and very helpful. A grant per year is reasonable, so I guess it all comes down to the individual car’s history. I’ll keep looking and hopefully find one that ticks all the boxes for me.
Pandora 1 thanks for the comment and sub 👍🏻 mk4 or 5? Either way a nice upgrade in-terms of performance 😎. I’ll be dropping a video next week of common faults and things to look at. Thanks for watching
Good video. I'm looking at getting a manual b8, coming from a MK7 Golf R and just wanting a nicer engine note as well as a decent upgrade in power (will take to stage 1 and possibly stage 2 at some point). Nothing else seems to offer the package this does, with a manual at least. Out with the obvious servicing etc, have you had to carry out much in regards to maintenance on yours? Or has anything gone wrong unexpectedly? The golf has had pretty much nothing go wrong on me, not sure I can expect the same from an S4 of this age
Hey, thank you for the video, really interested in getting an S4, I have a question about the 4pot calipers, do you have a part number? or know exactly what year/spec car they come on? My old Legacy had similar brakes and they were shockingly bad.
Thank you, if you take a look on our channel in playlists there is a video we done on stock to the 4 pot brembos, in the description is a list of part numbers and what vehicles it comes on :). They are very good matched with a track/ fast road pad
The A4 B8 Avant is such a good looking car. I have an A4 B8 3.0 TDI saloon which was a bit of an impulse buy as it was a "bargain". Well it was until insurance, full service (including s-tronic) and two new tyres were taken into account... I'm thinking of getting a stage 1 remap which should comfortably take it to 290/300bhp and 600Nm, but I keep reading horror stories about the s-tronic box and its torque limits. I have a 7 speed box and Audi says it's good for 600Nm at 9000rpm. Now obviously the diesel only hits half of those revs so I assume a remap is well within tolerance. The S4 revs far higher. Have you had any problems with the box since your remap? Cheers.
Hi mate, Great video, you're good at holding interest and not babbling or talking in circles! I just bought an B8.5 A5 sportback with the 3.0Tfsi, and i am looking for an exhaust note that is nice without drone or high rasp, but still wife friendly and not obnoxious when just cruising. After reading through the Audi forum for this motor, that seems to be a tall ask haha. I know camera can inaccurately portray how loud an exhaust is compared to in person. I'd like your opinion on two things: How's the volume during very conservative driving? I'd like it to be barely noticeable while windows are up / wife in car. How much do you think tips play a part in the sound with just rear mufflers delete? Tossing up between quad tips or larger dual tips. Thanks a lot!
I have heard many say that the oval tips as in one tip either side can create a lot of unwanted additional noise, it’s hard to say between the camera and real life I get that, There is a reasonable amount of noise, even with the windows shut, the car sounds best when you’re driving it hard as it’s more of a performance noise than just being a loud exhaust, I will do a video in the next couple of weeks hopefully providing this lockdown is over where I will take it through The varied speeds inside with a good microphone. But if you are after a quiet car exhaust for daily driving then it’s probably not for you, it can be raspy at times. Hope that helps
Can’t fault you mate, b5’s are wicked, they sound great but they always want for something and no one wants to work on them 😂. My s4 could well be up for sale soon if your in the market. Looks a Little different now though
@@TheParrottBros I don't think I can do it.. I'm too far into the B5 to give it up now 😂. Hopefully in a few years I can justify a fast Audi family car alongside it - man maths 😎😂
Hi ! i am watching from France, i am really happy to drive my 2010's S4 Avant with manual gear box! since few months now it's tuned with stage 1 + Ethanol (much cheaper! i dont know if this fuel is available in UK?). Could you give a link for the "back box delete" where did you get it? thanks for all the infos on your channel ;-)
Nico ProSpeed MotoSport thanks buddy, we are limited to fuel options in the uk, 95 or 99 Ron. The back box delete can be found here buddy rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575598957&toolid=10001&campid=5338702437&customid=Exhaust+Rear+silencer+delete+&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F323665984674
Auto trader is a good place, but to be honest I would join the Facebook groups as there is some great cars. Just keep an eye out for good service history etc
V T when I spoke to audi a few years back they said oil top up every 1000 miles is alright. Less than 1000 means your Pcv could be blocked amount other things. Also depends if you do more round town than long drives
RageSkoda that’s very true the price is in a real nice place atm, value for money is certainly there! You will enjoy the upgrade that’s for sure. Thanks for watching
Allright bud, Great video I enjoyed it myself looking at S4 upgrading from a S3 8P Rtech Stage 2. What would you say to look out for on these is there anything in particular that goes wrong any servicing like gearbox or chain/cambelt ? Thanks
@@TheParrottBros definitely I just don't want something slower, however due to a little one being on the way We are in need of more doors 😉 pleasure mate keep the good work up 💪🏻
Patryk Tokarz It will feel different for sure as the S3 is light and turbo’d but if you get a engine and box map you won’t be disappointed. It’s like Aladdins carpet haha. Appreciate the kind words 👍🏻
Ive been owned a CC 2.0 TSI for 10 years and still counting now, it visits workshop at least once a month starting from 4th Year. I'm really keen to get a S4 but I'm afraid the reliability is even worse, what is your honest advice? Thanks!
Hi everyone I’m in the market for an audi s4 and I found one for a good deal. The only issue is it’s got chain rattle on cold start for a few seconds. Is that something I need to worry about? Something that I will need to fix? Or is it not a issue and not something I need to worry about at all. Please help me out and tell me what you think. I don’t want to buy this car and then put 4k into repairing the chain.
Great content, I am planning to buy one this year and struggling between S4 B8 and VW R36. Can't find comparison between these two anywhere, any suggestion? Thank you in advance.
Muk W I had a little read up about this in the past, quite often they are explained as the poor mans Rs4 which made me chuckle. I found there wasn’t that many available for sale when I looked which made choice limited. The s4 on the other hand there is a nice selection and parts are a lot more readily available. Only real proof will be to test drive both and see which you prefer. The audi in my eyes is the slightly more prestige option
@@TheParrottBros Thanks for the info. It is also tricky to find a R36 with good condition here in Germany and the mileage of most of them basically >200k. For B8 S4, based on my research, price of the one with 170k -200k mileage can be acceptable. So, as follow up question, is it "safe" to buy S4 with such mileage? (I mean, of course I will ask someone from DEKRA or ADAC to check the car before I buy it but I am thinking more about the usage after purchase). Based on your experience, am I going to face too much malfunction with this mileage? Thanks
Handling wise how does the S4 compares to a mk1 TT? Do you feel the increased weight or the better torsen awd? Also is your TT has the stock anti roll bars : 20/14mm or already upgraded?
It’s a totally different beast, but I love it. It certainly handles better now with the increased roll bar, the body roll is massively reduced now. Have a look at the tt playlist I made a video showing TT upgrade options and what I’ve gone for
@@TheParrottBros In your video you show a rear r32 arm meaning you have a stock 20mm/19 r32 arb. Is it right? Doesn't it feel twitchy as some people describes on the TT forum? I was thinking about the 4motion bar. I really enjoy your videos, keep doing what you're doing!
Dante Ferrari I haven’t actually swapped them over yet, going to do it when I swap out the subframes. If you upgrade both the front and rear bars similarly it neutralises one another. Thanks for the kind words
Eyup mate top quality video! Im looking at a 2009 but it has 91k so its thrown me off abit. Full service history and new clutch. Is 91k nothing for these engines? Thanks
@Parrot Bros.. Need some advice please.. Looking to purchase an S4 or S5 (still haven't fully decided) but I have found one which has 116500 on the clock but full service history. It also does NOT have drive select. Firstly, is that high mileage okay? I guess we can never know how hard the car has been ragged. Secondly, what does having/not having the drive select really mean for an owner? Will really appreciate your help. Thanks, H
My one will be for sale soon, Mileage isn’t an issue providing it has had the correct servicing schedule, just factor in the higher the mileage the more likely it may need a few bits like bushes, cv joints etc. Drive select is nice when it works, but if it goes wrong and costs a lot to repair. It’s basically adjustable suspension, comfort, sport etc.
Haha thats amusing, i know which of the two given the choice i would have ..... Yours much cheaper to fix im sure haha, jokes aside its a fantastic car
@@TheParrottBros its my first car, but another will be audi A4 or S4 B8, I am looking at one for a longer time cause I like the with the design and easy tuning. Maybe it is cheaper but the car is so old that its need everything changed.
Great video just got the same car and colour on Saturday and watched the video and checked when the gear box had been serviced and was done at 63000 with mechtronic changed aswell so should be all good
Can you share your opinion on the oil consumption issues with the B8? The 4-cylinder engine. Found a 2010 with stupid low miles and will confess that I’m a little scared to grab it due to the notorious reliability issues. Thoughts? Thank you and beautiful car!
Like any performance car when they get old they may use a little more oil, on these engines its usually 2 reasons. main reason is the pcv system is blocked or the valve is failing. the other reason is down to oil viscosity i would recommend going from 5w30 to 5w40, that usually cures oil usage somewhat. Its not something i would worry about unless its using a litre in less than 1000 miles
I have a 2011 A4. I love that thing. I wish it had Android auto though. If you guys know of an economic way of converting the infotainment, let me know. All I see in the web is like $1K or more.
Garrett Cooper hey, yes it’s a rear double box delete. If you look on my channel there is a mod review video that shows what it’s like In and out, with links in the description
Hello, Just got home from a car dealership and they got an Audi s4 avant- with really good specs and it has 420hp with akrapovic exhaust system, but I am scared when something will need to be repaired if it’s gonna be expensive
Dzemo Ilic this is very true with any performance car, the more they cost new the more they will cost down the line. But if you find one with a good history you have to take it as you see it. You can buy a warranty to cover major issues, gearbox, engine failure etc. I would certainly look into it.
Hi great video. Just bought s4 and looking for better sound. Like the silencer delete. But been thinking about an x pipe. What do you think is the best option . Also can I ask what is the make of your paddle extensions.
Neil Macphail thanks Neil appreciate the comment, X-pipes do sound great as long as you don’t mind more noise inside the cabin, I had a magnaflow 11385 x pipe on the car before but fount it too noisy for me personally. It increases the volume for sure, so if that’s what your after then ideal :-)
@@TheParrottBros thanks for the reply. Dont want to noisy. Or wife an kids not be to happy. Was there much drone on silencer delete compared to x pipe.
Neil Macphail Massive difference, have you watched the video in the s4 playlist of different clips of my driving with the backbox delete. It’s nice and loud when you want it to be, then quiet inside for the family. I found with the x-pipe it droned far too much on cruising at 70mph on a drive etc. My partner hated it haha
@@TheParrottBros just watched it and the install one aswell. Think that sounds better than the x pipe ones I have watched. And lots easier and quicker to install. Now need to talk the wife into letting me buy it. 😃
BMW are making some seriously cool cars nowadays, just not for everyone rwd 👀 haha. I love them, had a e36 m3 back in the day which was great fun and a real cult classic but nowadays they are something else! Had some fun in a 140i and I was very impressed
Hey, if you have a look in my play lists there is a video showing fitting and driving sounds, its a backbox removal and effectively straight pipe with a tip at the back
Had my b8 s4 for almost 6 months, spent nearly as much time fixing it or getting it fixed as I spent driving it. Thanks but no thanks. Audi S4 provides 335i performance at m3 price. At least in the US anyway. Also, given that you are not in the US, you probably should know that it has the same stronic trans Audi put into the A4 and A5 and these transmissions are falling left and right in those vehicles. Guess why mine was getting fixed so much. Anyway, my first and last Audi, they positively suck.
Curious, did you buy a used S4? if so, did you do your due diligence on the maintenance on the car before you bought it? the 3.0 supercharged v6 is arguably one of the most reliable engines ever put into an audi. The dsg should be serviced every 35-40k miles, do that and your s4 will last well over 150k miles. these cars are known for being bought used with well over 100-150k miles and still run strong. Ive been in the market for an s4 for months and ive passed on a handful of cars that look great on the outside but when I ask for the Carfax and poke my nose a bit and call the dealerships they were serviced at by the first owner under warranty, Ive come to find out that the car has not been maintained properly. Don't just buy a used s4, but a WELL MAINTAINED S4 and you wont regret it. that goes in general for any car you buy. common sense.
@@chipchelios Well duh, bought brand new. Of course I bought it used, no brand new b8 s anymore. Not saying anything about the engine, but the trans was the main pain point. And the service you are talking about won't help when your gear selector lever sensor decides to quit. It is in the gear oil compartment where the actual "manual" gears are, and common service you are referring to only implies changing the atf oil in mech and clutch compartment. That's what failed in my trans first, and that's a big and/or expensive job to do. That sensor failure is not uncommon on relatively low mile gingerly driven cars including b8.5 cars. All would have been fine if the s4s were priced accordingly, but the good ones cost m3 money and the ones you get for a prices of a relatively good 335i are just completely rundown. That's my main issue with these cars, not enough performance for the money. Given that you might get a nice surprise like that sensor (some people drove for hours home from the dealer and all was fine, however, when the actual gear oil started to get hot after driving in stop and go, that's when that sensor reared its ugly head), 100-150kmile s4 which runs strong is probably not a smart idea. It's hard to assess how much life is actually left in the dsg. Plus, I don't appreciate that cats are tough to replace and you will burn them with tunes. And again, look at the forums, dsg failures are not uncommon. Did they all abused their cars? Maybe. But try finding an S4 which was driven by a grandma.
@@fastboatster I get where you're coming from, but I asked if you did your due diligence on the cars maintenance before you bought. Most people don't. If you go on Audizine you will read that 9/10 times, the guys that have issues are the ones who didn't do their homework before they bought, so they end up on the forums asking for help after an issue like the ones you've mentioned above. You've got to expect that these cars have gotten their necks wrung when you buy used, but having a comprehensive list of maintenance that was performed on the car throughout its life span is better than buying one without it. I've given 3 S4s a hard pass in the last week that didn't have more than 3 service records for the car..i called the dealerships after I got my hands on the carfax and asked the service guy to give me a rundown of everything that car was in the shop for while it was under warranty, even after. If youre gonna buy a used car to better be ready to pay for some maintenance but if the car was regularly maintained you have less chances of it becoming a money pit. Regardless, you should be ready to pay to play with these cars if you're gonna buy a car with a supercharger or a turbo. I have an a4 that I bought used last year with 66k miles. I made sure it was religiously maintained before I bought and it was..i took it to an audi dealership, had them run full diagnostic and got engine work covered under warranty including a turbo before it expired. I've put another $1500 in transmission service and parts and now she runs like a champ. Some of the repairs I did were preventative, but at least I have peace of mind when I drive it. Thats the cost of owning an audi or any entry luxury car
Jamuzik I think you are indirectly confirming that good s4s are far few and in between. As for the service records, my car had one dsg service 10kmile late. No doubt that’s what caused trans problems, right?))) Like I said, it had gear selector lever position sensor failure and it’s in the gear compartment which has mtf oil and doesn’t get normally serviced during your dsg “service”. As for Audizine, B8 S4 section doesn’t even have sticky buyers guide thread and everybody paints the picture of the S4 being very reliable and almost an m3 level car. When I was doing my research, I was prepared to have mech unit replaced or repaired, but that sensor which requires entire transmission tear down is buried very deep, both in the trans and Audizine threads. recently there have been a few threads popping up about that sensor failure, though. everybody is hush hush about the problems, not uncommon to see the same person talk in a high mile thread how their car has been holding up great with all the tunes and then see them mention in passing in another thread that they already had to replace the trans or posting ads looking for another used transmission. As for pay to play argument - I have experience with e90 BMWs and I think that even with turbos, hpfp and injectors, it’s a lot cheaper to play there. But that’s just me, I’m comfortable pulling the turbos out there now, it’s not scary at all after I had to pull the trans on the s4 the second time and this time I did it myself
Sorry to hear that you’re having so many issues with Your s4, I think with all cars there will be some faults as they get older will become more common, a lot of people drum on about the gearbox issues because the most common failure is the mech unit. Doesn’t mean to say that there isn’t other issues that occur they just seem less common. Comparing against BMW’s is not something I can do as have very little experience with the newer stuff but have seen some great tuned figures from the newer models. It all depends what your after as most BMW’s are rwd unless you manage to get an xdrive model but the hold a good price from what I’ve seen. On a whole besides routine service issues like water pump failure and Pcv issues the b8 s4 is a good car, as the model gets older there is always a chance the box or other more expensive items may fail but that’s the same across most performance cars. Thanks for your comments. All input appreciated
The Parrott Bro’s hadn’t been in the car park before with my S4 and my 03 plate st 220 clears it no probs.forever giving my old man a hard time for flying over speed bumps and causing damage to his car.Now he is just sitting with a smug grin😂.Knew you would know somewhere less pricey than Audi so cheers again bud👍🏻
@@TheParrottBros Good stuff, think I know what my next car is going to be ;) Many thanks for the message, wishing you lots of joy and trouble-free miles with your S4!
@@TheParrottBros nice one ..looking at a manual 10 plate, do you know if the clutch can take the stage 1 power? thanks for the video BTW, great info well presented
dagnut thanks dude, yeah clutch can take a stage 1, stage 2 / pulley upgrade I believe is where the issues happen. Although if the clutch has had a hard life anything can happen. Usually if you get it mapped on a rolling road they can tell if the clutch starts slipping when applied map. I also have a buyers guide video if you haven’t already seen it on the channel 👍🏻
Such a good daily! I picked up a B8.5 black edition S4 with the factory sports diff a few months ago. Fitted RS5 brakes which was fairly straight forwards although I had to fit spacers to clear the 19" rotors. Had an MRC stage 2 package this week and its now an animal. Going for the 034 motorsport ARB and Bilstein coilovers next as the standard suspension is the weak point now. Probably go for the rear silencer delete as MRC advised the standard exhaust is not really restrictive so I am not sure I can justify 2k for a full system. Thank you for all your videos, they are most useful for those of us that like to attempt some work at home!
Thanks mark appreciate you taking the time to comment. Yeah i bet that’s a lot of fun now it’s stage 2, exhaust wise yeah it’s more for sound than performance as stock has plenty of flow. The backbox Delete for the money is the best option otherwise your looking at a 4 figure cat back. Rs5 brakes are a lovely touch! Thanks for watching
When i bought my 2011 used B8 S4, i intentionally looked for stock S4's, the tuned ones are almost certain to be abused. Also service book is up to date, including S-tronic oil change, but i later change it again at 120.000 km ( i wanted a manual but those are rare here in Germany in avant shape). I guess when i want to drive a manual i have to drive my old manual 2007 TT 8J. S-tronic is way faster than i can shift and you dont feel any shakes so big plus in speed and confort, i'm happy with the double clutch choice now. Still both great cars, i drive them daily, TT for the twisty roads and the S4 for autobahn.
HammerTube sounds like you thought about it before buying which is always a good thing. 8J tt’s are great fun, I’m still loving the 8n when it works haha. Thanks for watching and commenting
Really impressed by the content mate. Would like to see more on the S4!
Thank you, plenty more to come in the future
Yeah, I've had the S4 B8.5 Avant Black Edition for 5 years and still happy with it - I bought it to travel around Europe.
Thanks for subscribing, they truly are brilliant cars, I’ve done 1 Europe trip but would happily do many more. It’s a pleasure to put miles on. Thanks for watching.
how reliable has it been.
Adam Bell not missed a beat mate
This is awesome. I was thinking about getting myself a b8 s4 avant and this playlist just checks absolutely everything I'd ever wanna know about that car. Great video 👍🏻
Thanks Alex, appreciate that and there is plenty more good content to come 👌🏻
Perfect timing. I’ve been thinking of changing to an S4 and this video has convinced me I’m thinking correctly. Thank you, great video.
No problemo, if you look in my
Channel there is a buyers guide covering some top things to check when buying 🙂
Hopefully getting a S4 as soon as possible.So I’ve watched this video many times for your advice. Thank you.
Just got one myself, they’re a lot of fun
Nice review. I have my manual as a daily and the family car since 1.5 years and has been super reliable. The performance at this cost is amazing and pretty much no newer estate I tried to drive is exciting as the B8.
any flaws yet?
@@jerryx2000 nope. It has been the most reliable car I ever had. I must be lucky. I have it now 4 years and did 80k kms had zero problems/faults.
@@100brsta so the oil usage is good too? My 2010 A4 used 1l oil /1000km. I got the engine replaced for free and it runs like a dream-
@@jerryx2000 2.0 have issues that 3.0 don’t have. Is not unheard of that 2.0 needs 1L oil per every tank of petrol. Depending on how I drive I use 1L per 3-5000km
Great video, I'm looking at S4s myself at the mo and all the info in this vid has really helped! Looking forward to future content.Subscribed.
Glad you found in helpful :-) thanks for watching, plenty more to come.
Great Video 😎 got my 2011 s4 last March and didn‘t regret it until now. Perfect mix between daily driver and performance car 😁 cheers from Austria 🇦🇹
Hello to those in Austria! Yeah they are brilliant cars and I’m still loving mine every day, it’s a lovely all rounder
Why u regret it
My 2013 Infinity G37 was just declared a total loss by my Insurance company, and I'm looking at a 100% loaded, Black on Black 2010 S4 this weekend. I loved my G37 and I really enjoyed the "370Z in a Tuxedo" driving experience, but if this S4 checks out, it's a huge level-of-magnitude better than my Infinity. Cheers from San Francisco, and great AUDI content, my friend! -Dave
1970borntorun thanks Dave,
Sorry to hear about your lost g37, The Audi is a completely different experience but for the better I feel. Let me know how you get on with that one at the weekend 👌🏻
@@TheParrottBros Thank you for the thoughtful and kind reply! If I pick up that S4, I will surely check back in with you and tell you how much I'm enjoying it! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas as well! - Dave
1970borntorun thanks and you buddy
@@1970borntorun Did you end up getting it?
Bought mine at 40k miles, installed APR stage II+. Almost at 100k miles. No problems at all, legit.
Very informative video, thanks for sharing your experiences - looking at a 2013 black optics packaged avant that seems to be exactly as yours was (dealer serviced, well maintained, slightly less than average mileage). Test drove it and .. boy it's a nice drive - appointment made with the dealer to discuss options/potentially make the purchase.
Awesome! Glad the video has been of help and it’s a fabulous car, I’m sure you will enjoy owning it
the wagon😩I wish we got wagons here in Canada. The regular sedans alright though I’m looking to buy one. First thing I’ll do is that tune up. 333 hp to ~420 which is crazy
The Avant is certainly more practical than the saloon and offers that cool estate look, that and when people go to race you they just assume it’s slow haha. Yeah mapping and a few handling upgrades and it’s like a dream to drive
Great video, I first discovered it a few months ago and I have now just purchased my own B8 S4 Avant. This video was very helpful and I suspect I will be watching all of your S4 videos now haha. My car is virtually identical to yours, colour, spec, everything. I even have the pov spec 18 inch alloys as yours originally had which I will be looking to upgrade. Collecting the car this Saturday and I cannot wait!!
Thanks for the guidance guys, great content 👌
I've watched your gear shifter upgrade video too and I think that will be one of my first mods. Love the interior but that shifter looks soooooo dated!
Hey buddy, glad you found it useful and
Sounds like you have a lovely car ;)
You know where I am if you need to know anything 👍🏻
@@TheParrottBros thank you, top man 👍 ill be going down the same route as you have, starting with the back box and rear arb so I will be heading to your channel alot
You could add the DSG transmission to the list of reliability concerns. I bought a stock 2012 B8 S4 in 2017 with 90K km. No evidence of abuse. At 148K km, the transmission failed with codes stored: P1624 - Requirement, malfunction lamp on active, P17D800 - Torque limitation due to clutch temperature, P17D000 - Clutch 2 slip too big, P060A00 - Internal control module monitoring processor performance & P081E - Excessive clutch "B" slippage. Repair estimate is $17K at Audi dealership, $10K at reputable independent transmission shop. WTF.
Has anyone serviced the dsg prior to you buying it? Also did you service it
@@jordanr3163 yes it was serviced by the Audi dealer on schedule. It was not quite due for next service when it failed. I’ve had the mech unit replaced and clutch repair. Super expensive but works well now and I have a 60K trans warranty. No good solution for this.
Nice, really informative, you’re videos are getting much better, and the sound is great
Fighting Arts of England thanks buddy, means a lot
I drove a manual and fell in love with the awe exhaust . Wish I could afford an s4 ! I’m sure it’s expensive to own
Not really no. Tax is lower than most performance cars at 260 a year (Im paying 320 on my 1.8T octavia rs that has less than half the power) Insurance is a bit steep but if you have a few years no claims its alright. You can get one for about 8-9 grand, which you can finance if you cant save up. The engine it self is one of the most solid engines in the vag-group, the smaller turbos have more common issues than this one. The only thing that could cost on this on the long term is the adaptive suspension, but even that is a rare failure, and you can skip it altogether because it was optional, so if you are scared of it you can just get one that doesnt have it. All in all I would say this is a solid investment if you buy one that was maintained properly and taken care of.
They are brilliant cars and like Waifuracer says they are not horrendous, yes they guzzle fuel but what performance car doesn't, Insurance is relative to your age, if your older like me then they are not to bad same as any other performance car, you just have to be mindful if something does go wrong it could be upwards of £1000 instantly haha, but then thats no difference to a bmw etc. I would recommend anyone to a b8 s4 I love mine
Best buyers video for the S4 B8 I've seen and I watched quite a few. Top job 👍
Now I just need to find the right one to buy. Cheers.
shaveoffnow thank you, I also have a common faults video if you have a look In the s4 playlist. Thanks
Really good review, subscribed. Got an S4 Avant on the wish list now 😀👍
Ed Griffiths they really are a great car
This video was the selling point for me to get one 😂 mines genuinely pretty much identical.
Stage 1
90k miles on the clock
Few points from my 3 month ownership so far….
Quick as fuck
Handles a bit shit
Nice on a long drive
Expensive on fuel (low 20s)
Keep on-top of upkeep
Will beat most cars of the line
Overall - expensive upkeep but very much worth it.
Thank you!
They are fantastic cars and right now very good value for money
I drive an imola yellow S4 B8 and it was the best choise i have ever made
Mmm imola! Super cool colour that very jealous. They are a fantastic car I’m loving every second of mine too. Thanks for watching
do you have any social media that has your car? I'm personally looking at a s4 yellow b8 and I want to see pics in different lighting
Awesome video! I’m considering changing my 2016 a3 saloon for one of these as I’m having a baby, this video is super useful!
It’s a great family car, my daughter often asks me to go faster in it 😂
@@TheParrottBros that’s awesome! Start then young!
Great video bud, this came up in my suggested videos and I glad I clicked 'play'
Refreshing to see a well put together video, without some egotistical knob in front of the camera!
I used to have an agate grey B5 S4 Saloon, and I loved it but much like you was getting fed up with issues etc. Sadly I domt have a B8 S4 now, but rather a 2011 C6 3.0tdi Avant with a manual box which for my needs is perfect.
After a remap, they're certainly not shy!
Keep up the good work mate. 👍
Thanks for the message and comments really appreciate it! I bet that still isn’t shy, heard they are lovely to drive specially with all that torque. Plus a great all rounder, used to have a c5 loved it. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Was looking for one of these as a manual, seems like a nice all round car for basically any practical needs
It’s certainly a good all rounder, big enough for any situation, quick and luxurious
Are you serious!? 10k for a S4!? If you want a nice S4 here in Norway you have to come up with 28k, at least. And that's a 09' not a facelift 8.5 or anything.
Even Varhaug come over to UK and get one to take back ☺️ I’ve heard Norway is expensive for cars but didn’t realise that much
@@TheParrottBros Yeah, sure that could work. Only thing is that the steering wheel is obviously on the wrong side :D
Even Varhaug minor details 😂
nice review, good honest feedback and some sensible mods. considering one of these as my next car - thanks!
Glad it was helpful! i thoroughly enjoyed owning mine for some 3.5 years, only sold as it was not getting used as had a change in circumstances
rad video man, looking for a s4 as my first drive and you have just one that looks like the one im looking at, even the stage tune. Oh and before somebody says that im spoiled and ive got easy earnt dad money Ill go out and say that ive been working my ass off last years to make my dream come true of owning a v6 monster when 18
Fairplay to you, it is one hell of a machine for anyone whether it’s your first car or your 10th! They are a fantastic drive and you’ll enjoy every minute of it, thanks for watching
But....you are tho I can feeeel it
Nice Mate, I’m 18 and selling my 6spd tsx and looking to get a s4 as well
Good video man. Sums up what I look for in a car. Split crank sucks a bit for semi-serious mods.
pklifter that’s it, you can get a reasonable performance rise from a map and pulley change almost 50% increase. That’s enough for me 😉
I’m thinking to get one next month 😍
I have just sold mine, had nearly 4 years of very enjoyable motoring from it
Grate video mate love your videos I'm currently looking for audi s4 b8 just sold my audi s3 8p 😊
Thanks Rhys means a lot, you won’t regret it that’s for sure 😎
Bought mine last April and the car’s simply amazing
Couldn’t agree more! Best car I’ve owned and I’ve owned a few 😂 thanks for watching
Bought mines yesterday love it
I Also bought mine last April. Love it! Cold air intake worth every penny to hear that supercharger.
Great video. Really enjoyed watching this
Tanny A thank you, if your looking at buying one there is also a couple videos worth checking out in the s4 playlist including a buyer guide / common faults.
I have just sold my RS4 Avant because it was costing me a fortune.
Brake pads and discs all round £2200.
Two new front shocks £2400.
Two new brake lines £340 .
I am thinking of buying an S4 Avant but I’m going to check prices on parts first
Thank you for a great video buddy.
No problemo, the s4 comes in a lot lower in prices specially if you get one without drive select. A stage 1 mapped s4 will run similar power to the rs4 all be it not a v8. Front discs are £140 a pair genuine, tyres £159 etc. It’s a lot more affordable and all your losing is the additional aesthetic‘s / status
The Parrott Bro’s thank you so much for your reply, The S4 Avant will be my next car 👍🏻
thanks so much for this vid , there's hardly any UK coverage for these on youtube
Samariajin you’re welcome, Few move videos to come over the coming Months too
@@TheParrottBros Glad to hear got yourself a new sub !
Great video mate, I’m looking for a S4 currently and you’ve nailed everything I was looking for And with the buyers guide too, You’ve got a new subscriber👍🏻
Thanks for subscribing, that’s why I made a video as when I was looking I struggle to find any decent information, the kind of information you’d want to know when buying a car. Plenty more to come :)
great content subscribed
Welcome aboard 🤙🏻
Nice vid mate, I’ve been in mine 3months and it makes me smile every day. I’m MRC stage 2, TCU, Eibach pro kit. I have also ordered a Merc racing charge cooler about 30mins, it being going up the quarter mile this summer😁
Changed pulley yeah? What figures did it make. Bet it goes Awfully well! I’ve got the cooler sitting at home just waiting for the separate reservoir to divorce the cooling system for maximum effectiveness. Where are you based?
The Parrott Bro’s I’m in the Midlands mate. I have the larger crank pulley, MRC don’t do the charger pulley as they believe they get all they need from crank only. I’d be really interested to hear drone level at motorway speed with the back box delete!
I’ve been following mrc’s build on there b8 for a while, I agree that the bottom pulley is the better upgrade and there reasoning behind it. Doug is a great guy and gets good results. I will be doing some more filming in the car soon as the lockdown is lifted so keep watch new content coming shortly inc decent driving clips
Where about's are you located mate? Do you have any plans to go for more power... Once the coolers on it will be rude not to do a pulley swap too 😁
London based buddy, yeah when have all the parts will be doing a divorced cooler set up and fit the mrc pulley upgrade 👍🏻
I currently have an a4 b8 from 2009 ad my first car no issues with 97k miles 1 owner thinking of getting an s4 or an s3 but I don’t want a used one for maintenance cost I was thinking certified pre owned but I’m 18 making $1200 a month and those payments would be high for a cpo s4 so I was thinking s3
Unless you need a bigger car you may find the s3 more fun to drive as it’s a lot lighter and even bigger modifications available not to mention leases repair costs. But it’s no supercharged v6 haha. Tough call but never stretch yourself too much money wise yourll never enjoy it.
Great video! So jealous you guys get avants there.
Thank you, love the avant’s. Where is it your watching from?
Great to have a video on the B8 from a 2020 perspective, very helpful.
I just started looking into this car, in fact it is my first car purchase and there's a lot of noise online around potential issues that worry me. Those being timing belt and timing chain, water pump, thermostat, and oxygen sensor. What is your take on that? I test drove a 2011 S4 with 86k miles, it drove wonderfully but I don't want to have to replace any of those parts any soon (say at least for another 20-30k miles) since these are expensive repairs. Service history doesn't show any replacement or repair of those parts so far.
Maybe even worth a full video? I saw a lot of forums out there talking about those issues but I'd love to hear your take on it. Either way thanks in advance for your opinion man, cheers!
Hey jan, firstly thanks for the message and watching the channel. Now down to business. I’ll be real honest with you, if you are concerned about high maintenance costs then buying a 9/10 year old performance audi probably isn’t the best thing to do. These cars do require yearly maintenance that is routine based on the advises. That alone can be £1k a year. That being said if you know a good mechanic it can be a lot less. I would always recommend buying a car with a good history and it has been well looked after it may cost a little bit more better be worth it in the long run. Don’t be afraid of buying one with more miles as it’s likely to be better value for money. Thanks TPB
The Parrott Bro’s Thank you Jan for posting this question and thank you TPB for replying and putting my mind to rest. I avoided looking at any higher mileage S4 B8s previously, but your comment has given me a bit more confidence in searching the market in midst of this lockdown. Hopefully I’ll be able to get more bang for my buck with a slightly higher mileage model. Great to see a detailed and honest review on this car, I appreciate the time and effort taken to produce the vid. Keep up the good work, liked, subbed and B8 Playlist added!
The Parrott Bro’s thank you for replying, great advice and very helpful. A grant per year is reasonable, so I guess it all comes down to the individual car’s history. I’ll keep looking and hopefully find one that ticks all the boxes for me.
Hey Mate, great video. Hoping to upgrade to one of these this year from my R32. Subscribed
Pandora 1 thanks for the comment and sub 👍🏻 mk4 or 5? Either way a nice upgrade in-terms of performance 😎. I’ll be dropping a video next week of common faults and things to look at. Thanks for watching
@@TheParrottBros MK5. I love the car but yeah just wanting something a bit more powerful. Awesome man, Will keep a look out for it :)
Good video. I'm looking at getting a manual b8, coming from a MK7 Golf R and just wanting a nicer engine note as well as a decent upgrade in power (will take to stage 1 and possibly stage 2 at some point). Nothing else seems to offer the package this does, with a manual at least. Out with the obvious servicing etc, have you had to carry out much in regards to maintenance on yours? Or has anything gone wrong unexpectedly? The golf has had pretty much nothing go wrong on me, not sure I can expect the same from an S4 of this age
Very good video to the point 👍
Thank you 👍🏻
Hey, thank you for the video, really interested in getting an S4, I have a question about the 4pot calipers, do you have a part number? or know exactly what year/spec car they come on? My old Legacy had similar brakes and they were shockingly bad.
Thank you, if you take a look on our channel in playlists there is a video we done on stock to the 4 pot brembos, in the description is a list of part numbers and what vehicles it comes on :). They are very good matched with a track/ fast road pad
Excellent video, many thanks
Thank you
The A4 B8 Avant is such a good looking car. I have an A4 B8 3.0 TDI saloon which was a bit of an impulse buy as it was a "bargain". Well it was until insurance, full service (including s-tronic) and two new tyres were taken into account...
I'm thinking of getting a stage 1 remap which should comfortably take it to 290/300bhp and 600Nm, but I keep reading horror stories about the s-tronic box and its torque limits. I have a 7 speed box and Audi says it's good for 600Nm at 9000rpm. Now obviously the diesel only hits half of those revs so I assume a remap is well within tolerance.
The S4 revs far higher. Have you had any problems with the box since your remap? Cheers.
I’m thinking about buying an s4 sometime this year, so i’m looking forward to your next video. Will you be talking about common problems with the s4?
Fredrik Sevaldsen thanks for watching Fredrik, yes we will cover common issues, things to check, known faults and spec options
Awesome. You just got yourself a new subscriber!
Hi mate, Great video, you're good at holding interest and not babbling or talking in circles!
I just bought an B8.5 A5 sportback with the 3.0Tfsi, and i am looking for an exhaust note that is nice without drone or high rasp, but still wife friendly and not obnoxious when just cruising. After reading through the Audi forum for this motor, that seems to be a tall ask haha.
I know camera can inaccurately portray how loud an exhaust is compared to in person. I'd like your opinion on two things:
How's the volume during very conservative driving? I'd like it to be barely noticeable while windows are up / wife in car.
How much do you think tips play a part in the sound with just rear mufflers delete? Tossing up between quad tips or larger dual tips.
Thanks a lot!
I have heard many say that the oval tips as in one tip either side can create a lot of unwanted additional noise, it’s hard to say between the camera and real life I get that,
There is a reasonable amount of noise, even with the windows shut, the car sounds best when you’re driving it hard as it’s more of a performance noise than just being a loud exhaust, I will do a video in the next couple of weeks hopefully providing this lockdown is over where I will take it through The varied speeds inside with a good microphone. But if you are after a quiet car exhaust for daily driving then it’s probably not for you, it can be raspy at times. Hope that helps
Found this, recognise your old B5.
Now I have bad thoughts in my head of being all sensible and doing the same as you.
B5s are a headache 😂
Can’t fault you mate, b5’s are wicked, they sound great but they always want for something and no one wants to work on them 😂. My s4 could well be up for sale soon if your in the market. Looks a Little different now though
@@TheParrottBros I don't think I can do it.. I'm too far into the B5 to give it up now 😂.
Hopefully in a few years I can justify a fast Audi family car alongside it - man maths 😎😂
Awesome vid mate picking one of these up in the next few weeks. What about the sport diff? Is it worth getting one with it ?
Awesome! if you can great if not they still drive perfectly fine, unless you are chasing big power i doubt you will notice much difference
2012 s4 should I pull the trigger 99k services at Audi every 15k said so in the car fax I’m just worried it’s gonna be a money pit
Hey I’m in the same spot right now did you end up getting it and what’s your advise?
Great vlog mate. 👍
Thank you
Going to buy one of these, will be a nice addition to the mk1 TT vr6 I have, still have that naturaly aspirated feeling but it isnt, how cool is that.
They make a lovely combo I must admit, autobahn animal and a B road blaster 😂
Hi ! i am watching from France, i am really happy to drive my 2010's S4 Avant with manual gear box! since few months now it's tuned with stage 1 + Ethanol (much cheaper! i dont know if this fuel is available in UK?). Could you give a link for the "back box delete" where did you get it? thanks for all the infos on your channel ;-)
Nico ProSpeed MotoSport thanks buddy, we are limited to fuel options in the uk, 95 or 99 Ron.
The back box delete can be found here buddy
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575598957&toolid=10001&campid=5338702437&customid=Exhaust+Rear+silencer+delete+&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F323665984674
A great video, thank you. I'd like to know where you picked up your S4 from? I'm in the market for one.
Auto trader is a good place, but to be honest I would join the Facebook groups as there is some great cars. Just keep an eye out for good service history etc
thanks for the great review. i have the same car which takes 5w40 @ 1 Litre per 1000km. seems too much...i wonder what is optimum ?
V T when I spoke to audi a few years back they said oil top up every 1000 miles is alright. Less than 1000 means your Pcv could be blocked amount other things. Also depends if you do more round town than long drives
How would you compare this vehicle to a similar spec BMW on the driving experience?
I haven’t had the opportunity to drive a car of a similar spec and year so couldn’t say
I'm hoping to upgrade from the Mk5 GTI to one of these in about a year. They're getting very affordable.
RageSkoda that’s very true the price is in a real nice place atm, value for money is certainly there! You will enjoy the upgrade that’s for sure. Thanks for watching
so weird. I have a mk5 gti and was looking at quotes today for the s4's for about a years time! lmao!
Allright bud, Great video I enjoyed it myself looking at S4 upgrading from a S3 8P Rtech Stage 2. What would you say to look out for on these is there anything in particular that goes wrong any servicing like gearbox or chain/cambelt ?
Thanks
Sorry mate found your buyers guide video, Thanks anyway 😉👌🏻
😂 thanks for watching, you won’t be disappointed, guessing your going to want it mapped too 👌🏻
@@TheParrottBros definitely I just don't want something slower, however due to a little one being on the way We are in need of more doors 😉 pleasure mate keep the good work up 💪🏻
Patryk Tokarz It will feel different for sure as the S3 is light and turbo’d but if you get a engine and box map you won’t be disappointed. It’s like Aladdins carpet haha. Appreciate the kind words 👍🏻
Ive been owned a CC 2.0 TSI for 10 years and still counting now, it visits workshop at least once a month starting from 4th Year. I'm really keen to get a S4 but I'm afraid the reliability is even worse, what is your honest advice? Thanks!
Hi everyone I’m in the market for an audi s4 and I found one for a good deal. The only issue is it’s got chain rattle on cold start for a few seconds. Is that something I need to worry about? Something that I will need to fix? Or is it not a issue and not something I need to worry about at all. Please help me out and tell me what you think. I don’t want to buy this car and then put 4k into repairing the chain.
Did you buy it? I would have said leave it alone if there's any type of chain issue it's engine out expensive job
Hi nice vlog. How much did the engine and gearbox tune cost?
Mi C thanks buddy, it was £600 all in
Great content, I am planning to buy one this year and struggling between S4 B8 and VW R36. Can't find comparison between these two anywhere, any suggestion? Thank you in advance.
Muk W I had a little read up about this in the past, quite often they are explained as the poor mans Rs4 which made me chuckle.
I found there wasn’t that many available for sale when I looked which made choice limited. The s4 on the other hand there is a nice selection and parts are a lot more readily available.
Only real proof will be to test drive both and see which you prefer. The audi in my eyes is the slightly more prestige option
@@TheParrottBros Thanks for the info. It is also tricky to find a R36 with good condition here in Germany and the mileage of most of them basically >200k. For B8 S4, based on my research, price of the one with 170k -200k mileage can be acceptable. So, as follow up question, is it "safe" to buy S4 with such mileage? (I mean, of course I will ask someone from DEKRA or ADAC to check the car before I buy it but I am thinking more about the usage after purchase). Based on your experience, am I going to face too much malfunction with this mileage? Thanks
Handling wise how does the S4 compares to a mk1 TT? Do you feel the increased weight or the better torsen awd? Also is your TT has the stock anti roll bars : 20/14mm or already upgraded?
It’s a totally different beast, but I love it. It certainly handles better now with the increased roll bar, the body roll is massively reduced now. Have a look at the tt playlist I made a video showing TT upgrade options and what I’ve gone for
@@TheParrottBros In your video you show a rear r32 arm meaning you have a stock 20mm/19 r32 arb. Is it right? Doesn't it feel twitchy as some people describes on the TT forum? I was thinking about the 4motion bar. I really enjoy your videos, keep doing what you're doing!
Dante Ferrari I haven’t actually swapped them over yet, going to do it when I swap out the subframes. If you upgrade both the front and rear bars similarly it neutralises one another. Thanks for the kind words
Great video and excellent content. Especially 5.35 lol Bbbbrrrrrppp
Rob Let Thanks rob
Hello mate new to the channel I’m getting a 2009 s4 avant supercharged anything to look out for or keep a eye on.great vlogs keep up the good work
They are brilliant cars, if you look on the channel playlist there is an s4 one with a buyers guide video specially for that
@@TheParrottBros thanks very much for your message will watch now
Eyup mate top quality video! Im looking at a 2009 but it has 91k so its thrown me off abit. Full service history and new clutch. Is 91k nothing for these engines? Thanks
Barely worn in that! If it had a good history you’ll be fine. Mines 75 and im planning on keeping it well into the hundreads haha
Haha nice one for replying. Keep the uploads coming!
@Parrot Bros.. Need some advice please..
Looking to purchase an S4 or S5 (still haven't fully decided) but I have found one which has 116500 on the clock but full service history. It also does NOT have drive select.
Firstly, is that high mileage okay? I guess we can never know how hard the car has been ragged.
Secondly, what does having/not having the drive select really mean for an owner?
Will really appreciate your help.
Thanks,
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My one will be for sale soon,
Mileage isn’t an issue providing it has had the correct servicing schedule, just factor in the higher the mileage the more likely it may need a few bits like bushes, cv joints etc.
Drive select is nice when it works, but if it goes wrong and costs a lot to repair. It’s basically adjustable suspension, comfort, sport etc.
@@TheParrottBros Thank you so much for the reply bro. Really appreciate it
Can you still launch with drive select?
great post
You know whats funny? That I have 30mpg in my 1.6litre NA with 77kw. And this "beast" with 3.0supercharger 245kw have same mpg like my shitbox
Haha thats amusing, i know which of the two given the choice i would have ..... Yours much cheaper to fix im sure haha, jokes aside its a fantastic car
@@TheParrottBros its my first car, but another will be audi A4 or S4 B8, I am looking at one for a longer time cause I like the with the design and easy tuning. Maybe it is cheaper but the car is so old that its need everything changed.
Great video just got the same car and colour on Saturday and watched the video and checked when the gear box had been serviced and was done at 63000 with mechtronic changed aswell so should be all good
David Thomas happy days, yeah that’s ideal history. Good colour and spec choice 😊
Can you share your opinion on the oil consumption issues with the B8? The 4-cylinder engine. Found a 2010 with stupid low miles and will confess that I’m a little scared to grab it due to the notorious reliability issues. Thoughts? Thank you and beautiful car!
Like any performance car when they get old they may use a little more oil, on these engines its usually 2 reasons.
main reason is the pcv system is blocked or the valve is failing. the other reason is down to oil viscosity
i would recommend going from 5w30 to 5w40, that usually cures oil usage somewhat.
Its not something i would worry about unless its using a litre in less than 1000 miles
I have a 2011 A4. I love that thing. I wish it had Android auto though. If you guys know of an economic way of converting the infotainment, let me know. All I see in the web is like $1K or more.
So what did you do to the exhaust? Is it just a rear muffler delete?
Garrett Cooper hey, yes it’s a rear double box delete. If you look on my channel there is a mod review video that shows what it’s like In and out, with links in the description
Hello, Just got home from a car dealership and they got an Audi s4 avant- with really good specs and it has 420hp with akrapovic exhaust system, but I am scared when something will need to be repaired if it’s gonna be expensive
Dzemo Ilic this is very true with any performance car, the more they cost new the more they will cost down the line. But if you find one with a good history you have to take it as you see it. You can buy a warranty to cover major issues, gearbox, engine failure etc. I would certainly look into it.
Great content mate new subscriber here 👍
Thanks and welcome aboard
Hi great video. Just bought s4 and looking for better sound. Like the silencer delete. But been thinking about an x pipe. What do you think is the best option . Also can I ask what is the make of your paddle extensions.
Neil Macphail thanks Neil appreciate the comment, X-pipes do sound great as long as you don’t mind more noise inside the cabin, I had a magnaflow 11385 x pipe on the car before but fount it too noisy for me personally. It increases the volume for sure, so if that’s what your after then ideal :-)
@@TheParrottBros thanks for the reply. Dont want to noisy. Or wife an kids not be to happy. Was there much drone on silencer delete compared to x pipe.
Neil Macphail Massive difference, have you watched the video in the s4 playlist of different clips of my driving with the backbox delete. It’s nice and loud when you want it to be, then quiet inside for the family. I found with the x-pipe it droned far too much on cruising at 70mph on a drive etc. My partner hated it haha
@@TheParrottBros just watched it and the install one aswell. Think that sounds better than the x pipe ones I have watched. And lots easier and quicker to install. Now need to talk the wife into letting me buy it. 😃
Neil Macphail That’s the easy part, it’s the cheapest option and also completely reversible with two joining clamps
if you want a gt car under 30k s4
if you want a car to rip back roads or track under 30k m235i
BMW are making some seriously cool cars nowadays, just not for everyone rwd 👀 haha. I love them, had a e36 m3 back in the day which was great fun and a real cult classic but nowadays they are something else! Had some fun in a 140i and I was very impressed
@@TheParrottBros for sure. Their X-drive system is so good too imo.
I'd like to know where you picked up your S4 from?
Vishal Gupta I got it from a local trader I know who sells prestige, the owner traded it in against a newer Rs4
hi can you tell me more about exhaust have you deleted the back boxes or are there still there not sure whats done
Hey, if you have a look in my play lists there is a video showing fitting and driving sounds, its a backbox removal and effectively straight pipe with a tip at the back
@The Parrott Bro’s hi yeah got that afterwards removing the back boxes is it too loud can you still live with it and drive every day
Had my b8 s4 for almost 6 months, spent nearly as much time fixing it or getting it fixed as I spent driving it. Thanks but no thanks. Audi S4 provides 335i performance at m3 price. At least in the US anyway. Also, given that you are not in the US, you probably should know that it has the same stronic trans Audi put into the A4 and A5 and these transmissions are falling left and right in those vehicles. Guess why mine was getting fixed so much. Anyway, my first and last Audi, they positively suck.
Curious, did you buy a used S4? if so, did you do your due diligence on the maintenance on the car before you bought it? the 3.0 supercharged v6 is arguably one of the most reliable engines ever put into an audi. The dsg should be serviced every 35-40k miles, do that and your s4 will last well over 150k miles. these cars are known for being bought used with well over 100-150k miles and still run strong. Ive been in the market for an s4 for months and ive passed on a handful of cars that look great on the outside but when I ask for the Carfax and poke my nose a bit and call the dealerships they were serviced at by the first owner under warranty, Ive come to find out that the car has not been maintained properly. Don't just buy a used s4, but a WELL MAINTAINED S4 and you wont regret it. that goes in general for any car you buy. common sense.
@@chipchelios Well duh, bought brand new. Of course I bought it used, no brand new b8 s anymore. Not saying anything about the engine, but the trans was the main pain point. And the service you are talking about won't help when your gear selector lever sensor decides to quit. It is in the gear oil compartment where the actual "manual" gears are, and common service you are referring to only implies changing the atf oil in mech and clutch compartment. That's what failed in my trans first, and that's a big and/or expensive job to do. That sensor failure is not uncommon on relatively low mile gingerly driven cars including b8.5 cars. All would have been fine if the s4s were priced accordingly, but the good ones cost m3 money and the ones you get for a prices of a relatively good 335i are just completely rundown. That's my main issue with these cars, not enough performance for the money. Given that you might get a nice surprise like that sensor (some people drove for hours home from the dealer and all was fine, however, when the actual gear oil started to get hot after driving in stop and go, that's when that sensor reared its ugly head), 100-150kmile s4 which runs strong is probably not a smart idea. It's hard to assess how much life is actually left in the dsg. Plus, I don't appreciate that cats are tough to replace and you will burn them with tunes. And again, look at the forums, dsg failures are not uncommon. Did they all abused their cars? Maybe. But try finding an S4 which was driven by a grandma.
@@fastboatster I get where you're coming from, but I asked if you did your due diligence on the cars maintenance before you bought. Most people don't. If you go on Audizine you will read that 9/10 times, the guys that have issues are the ones who didn't do their homework before they bought, so they end up on the forums asking for help after an issue like the ones you've mentioned above. You've got to expect that these cars have gotten their necks wrung when you buy used, but having a comprehensive list of maintenance that was performed on the car throughout its life span is better than buying one without it. I've given 3 S4s a hard pass in the last week that didn't have more than 3 service records for the car..i called the dealerships after I got my hands on the carfax and asked the service guy to give me a rundown of everything that car was in the shop for while it was under warranty, even after. If youre gonna buy a used car to better be ready to pay for some maintenance but if the car was regularly maintained you have less chances of it becoming a money pit. Regardless, you should be ready to pay to play with these cars if you're gonna buy a car with a supercharger or a turbo. I have an a4 that I bought used last year with 66k miles. I made sure it was religiously maintained before I bought and it was..i took it to an audi dealership, had them run full diagnostic and got engine work covered under warranty including a turbo before it expired. I've put another $1500 in transmission service and parts and now she runs like a champ. Some of the repairs I did were preventative, but at least I have peace of mind when I drive it. Thats the cost of owning an audi or any entry luxury car
Jamuzik I think you are indirectly confirming that good s4s are far few and in between. As for the service records, my car had one dsg service 10kmile late. No doubt that’s what caused trans problems, right?))) Like I said, it had gear selector lever position sensor failure and it’s in the gear compartment which has mtf oil and doesn’t get normally serviced during your dsg “service”. As for Audizine, B8 S4 section doesn’t even have sticky buyers guide thread and everybody paints the picture of the S4 being very reliable and almost an m3 level car. When I was doing my research, I was prepared to have mech unit replaced or repaired, but that sensor which requires entire transmission tear down is buried very deep, both in the trans and Audizine threads. recently there have been a few threads popping up about that sensor failure, though. everybody is hush hush about the problems, not uncommon to see the same person talk in a high mile thread how their car has been holding up great with all the tunes and then see them mention in passing in another thread that they already had to replace the trans or posting ads looking for another used transmission.
As for pay to play argument - I have experience with e90 BMWs and I think that even with turbos, hpfp and injectors, it’s a lot cheaper to play there. But that’s just me, I’m comfortable pulling the turbos out there now, it’s not scary at all after I had to pull the trans on the s4 the second time and this time I did it myself
Sorry to hear that you’re having so many issues with Your s4, I think with all cars there will be some faults as they get older will become more common, a lot of people drum on about the gearbox issues because the most common failure is the mech unit. Doesn’t mean to say that there isn’t other issues that occur they just seem less common. Comparing against BMW’s is not something I can do as have very little experience with the newer stuff but have seen some great tuned figures from the newer models. It all depends what your after as most BMW’s are rwd unless you manage to get an xdrive model but the hold a good price from what I’ve seen. On a whole besides routine service issues like water pump failure and Pcv issues the b8 s4 is a good car, as the model gets older there is always a chance the box or other more expensive items may fail but that’s the same across most performance cars. Thanks for your comments. All input appreciated
thinking of getting a B8 S4 - in manual if possible
Brilliant cars, manuals are great but stronic are faster 😅. Totally get it though
I was looking for one of these wanted an auto but heard they not most reliable gearbox
There are plenty of good ones, providing they get serviced regularly and they are fine. But there is always a potential, same as early DSG boxes.
Whats the name of the alloys thar are on the car now in this video? Been looking for these
They are known as segments, 19"
@@TheParrottBros thank you 🙏
What if I buy one with 120k miles or 110k
The notorious Joey as long and the service history is there to back it up I wouldn’t worry
Hey mate hope you are well?.can you point me in the direction of finding a S4 B8 front bumper fixing kit?
Gary Fuzz yes buddy, speak to Coverdale car parts they will be able to get whatever you need and won’t be pricey :)
The Parrott Bro’s Thankyou mate, apppreciated👍🏻.Had a slight coming together with a raised kerb🤮.no visual damage but a few clips/screws missing.
Gary Fuzz we have all been there believe me 😂😂 more than once as well 👀
The Parrott Bro’s hadn’t been in the car park before with my S4 and my 03 plate st 220 clears it no probs.forever giving my old man a hard time for flying over speed bumps and causing damage to his car.Now he is just sitting with a smug grin😂.Knew you would know somewhere less pricey than Audi so cheers again bud👍🏻
Gary Fuzz anytime fella & I bet he is 😂😂
maybe an odd question, but how do u go about getting a price for the calipers from porsche? cheers
Speak to their parts department quoting the part numbers listed on my brake video 😊
Alright cheers, and thanks for the rapid response 👍🏼
Where did u get the anti row bar from? Plz
Mo Khan ecotune-scotland.co.uk/034motorsport-adjustable-solid-rear-sway-bar-b8-b8-5-audi-a4-s4-rs4-a5-s5-rs5/
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Selling my Audi 2011 s4 advent if anyone Interested
How’s the gearbox taken the mapping to the 409hp?
Lukasz Mackiewicz gearbox was also mapped to increase the clamping force. No issues what so ever, if anything it’s better
@@TheParrottBros Good stuff, think I know what my next car is going to be ;) Many thanks for the message, wishing you lots of joy and trouble-free miles with your S4!
@@LMMack Thanks buddy, any questions feel free to drop me a message
What MPG was you getting without a remap
Was a long time ago, from memory high 20’s
they're cheaper to get than japanese cars in america
11k pound my god I'd have 3 of em... here they are still $45,000 AUD
I know where to send mine when I want to sell it 😂
@@TheParrottBros bloody oath lol!
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any flaws yet?
I owned the car for 3 years and no issues, spent most of its time being used daily and it was great
what exhaust did you have prior to this one??
Steven Aichele a pair of custom back boxes
@@TheParrottBros cool! thoughts on milltek non res?
The lights you had on was that the positional lights?
Sorry which part of the video are you on about. Thanks
The Parrott Bro’s when you were standing in front of the car it looked liked one of the lights on the headlights were on. Maybe it was just a glare.
Yeah that’s the glare buddy :)
Hows the car now
Ive sold the car now as wanted a change but had 3 brilliant years out of it
not going for roof becouse its gonna leak? wtf
Pano roofs are notorious for getting blocked drain tubes and leaking, it’s a big job to
Sort if you can’t unblock them, seals can fail etc.
are you geting 25mpg after the stage 1?
dagnut mpg actually got slightly better after the map haha. But yeah mpg in this car isn’t great but that’s expected for a 3L charged engine :)
@@TheParrottBros nice one ..looking at a manual 10 plate, do you know if the clutch can take the stage 1 power?
thanks for the video BTW, great info well presented
dagnut thanks dude, yeah clutch can take a stage 1, stage 2 / pulley upgrade I believe is where the issues happen. Although if the clutch has had a hard life anything can happen. Usually if you get it mapped on a rolling road they can tell if the clutch starts slipping when applied map.
I also have a buyers guide video if you haven’t already seen it on the channel 👍🏻
@@TheParrottBros spot just watched buyers guide video. Great info